Joshua, thankyou for being awesome and wearing those FRESH white socks. they kindof stole the show for me as they sat atop and beneath those CRISP shoes you got on my man. as always a great tutorial
Wow! As a newbie, exactly what I was looking for. All the videos talk about this, but only show the results. With your stick inputs showing, that, at least to me, is the most important part never, or very seldom shown. Thank You! Thank You! I'm now subscribed.
Thank you Again....I LEARN soooooo much on each of your videos, I have to go back and watch them over. Joshua, you are awesome for this INDUSTRY TITAN of KNOWLEDGE! You have earned my respect...look for me as a new patron
Great tutorial Joshua - thank you so much! Will be practicing lots more in Liftoff with this. I’m aiming for 100 hours before I start flying my drone in full manual in real life 🙌
If the centre points stays the same, it's a funnel dude. Always been a funnel, always will be a funnel. It existed before quads, long before the delightful MR Steele did one, even before he knew what a heli or quad was. If sideways and centre points moves, it's funnel turns.
Joshua, I assumed everybody just called this "sideswiping." Anyways, you break it down really well for those who learn this way...but I learn differently. The way I learned was to just go out and try...started out very uncoordinated, like in jerky steps, with jerky corrections (some yaw, oh, then some roll, one after the other instead of coordinated). Eventually you practice enough, and watch enough Steele videos for inspiration, that suddenly you realize you're sideswiping with almost no visible corrections apparent on video. Achieving a smooth sideswipe will make you feel like a reasonably accomplished quad pilot, and really allows for some fantastic throttle control exercises--cheers
The amount of different stick inputs is also dependent on camera tilt. The more your camera is tilted the more aileron you will use. Also throttle control is a huge part of getting locked in.
I would call this more of an orbit. When I think of a "spin" I think of a rotation on axis within the boundaries of the object that is spinning, not the act of circling around a different object. Think of planes doing flat spins, or snowboarders / skaters / bmx doing 360's etc... rotations of that nature are always referred to as spins. The name you gave this maneuver is more confusing than the maneuver itself :-p When I think of a yaw spin I'm picturing a 360 on the yaw axis. Naming conventions aside, great tutorial! I'm sure this will help a lot of people.
The thing about circling yourself (or whatever you want to yaw spin around) in kind of your "peripheral vision" seems key to learning this type of trick and I wonder if I would have ever figured that out myself. JB is amazing with figuring out how to break things down so that inexperienced pilots have a much easier time learning moves. Thank you so much, Joshua! 👍👊👏🙏 Now if someone could make flying with uptilt click in my head...lol. I MUST have my uptilt at 0. At zero uptilt, I'm not horrible. Everything makes sense, I can put the quad where I want it, I'm working on flips and rolls and I'm definitely improving every time I fly, but I hate uptilt. Whenever I try to fly a quad with uptilt it's like I'm putting my hands on a transmitter for the first time all over again. I suck, there's no other way to say it. I can't judge altitude, and because upward thrust is no longer perpendicular to the direction I'm looking in, it completely hoses the control I feel at zero uptilt. At zero, I'm on my way to hero, but with uptilt, I AM a zero! 😉 Sorry for writing a book here folks. It's an attempt to see if by writing about it to explain it might make something click, which often seems to work for me. I realized my obvious next step in troubleshooting my Tiny Hawk just yesterday, while talking to a friend about it. Somehow, trying to explain something to someone who speaks the same language (techie) , more often than not, causes me to find the answer or at least ideas in the right direction. But back to my issue. So when uptilt enters the picture, the "misalignment" of the plane the camera is oriented in, and the control axes (is that the correct way to spell the plural of "axis"?) of the quad throws me for a loop (sorry, bad pun couldn't be helped 😂). Oh well, no clicks in my noggin so far, and I've run out of ways to keep droning on about it. I got nothing. 😐 I guess I'll just keep flying zero uptilt for now. As I improve overall, I'd hope I'll also get better at wrapping my brain around compensating for uptilt. If not, I'm more into the idea of freestyle than racing anyway. Maybe if I'm stuck at zero uptilt, I'll end up with really unique looking video that makes people wonder how I do certain moves, since everybody's used to seeing video shot with significant uptilt. I'm starting to think I might have to change my "handle" to ZeroUptiltFPV... 😜👍😁👊
I've been practicing this. I thought the sticks would be like a gps camera drone with opposite yaw/row.... Thanks for clearing this up.... Now I'm getting it! HA hA, I've been doing this to my dog and she chases me!
Man, you have a nice property. Must be nice to charge some batteries and just fly outside. I bet it helped with your skills a lot. Thanks for the videos.
I've always known it as circle strafing mostly from battlefield games when using an attack helicopter, but orbit is easier to say and makes sense especially to people that have no idea what you are talking about
Lol, I'm an idiot! The pooch comes bounding up and for a second, when JB said "Hello, puppy dog", I thought "How did he see the dog with the goggles on!!!" .
you are amazing! and I hope one day I could fly with my dog staring calm beside me, but first times he just barked all the time and try to litteraly kill my drone 😅 however, I noticed that your right stick of the black box point exactly at you when you're orbiting, so next time I'll practice I'll try to point my left stick exactly in the direction of the object I'm orbiting, could be a good tip 😁
this is a great tutorial, my biggest problem is rolling out, now I know why thank you! is there any way you can do a tutorial on the "Matty Flip" that would be awesome.
Joshua, any chance you could do a video on how to do 2 things: A slow roll and a fast roll where in both cases the copter rolls along the camera axis as opposed to rolling along the copter axis? Apologies if this has already been covered, I didn't see it.
thanks for all your videos !! As a beginner, it's a gold mine for me !! But this orbit move is very tricky, and as I don't remember where is your yaw axis, I have difficulties to understand your moves. Do you think it's possible to add your fliying mode in all your videos ? Thanks again from France !!
Joshua Bardwell thanks! By the way, do you think I'm a freak by using mode 3? Actually, I played like 200 hours of Elite Dangerous on my Xbox One, and it's a mode 3 to fly a spaceship :-D
+Arnaud Szobad I recommend every pilot learn mode 2 because it is what other pilots are likely to use when you borrow their copters or watch their sticks. By using mode 3, you are making it harder for yourself to learn in the future.
Joshua Bardwell maybe you're right, I'll have to learn again from the beginning everything in mode 2, I just didn't find the patience till now to do it... And modify my taranis again 😂 Thanks for your fast answers, I know now that if I need help, you are there! I'll eventually let you know my progress in mode 2 😊
I am really confused now. I found two videos of guys showing how to circle something and one way both joysticks are inward. The other way and both sticks go outward. Works on simulator too. Wasn’t able to circle till I tried that. You have both sticks outward right. Or outward left. Been too windy to fly here. Going to test on simulator
This is different than Steele's. In your case the quad is always rolled a bit to the right so the horizon is tilted, while Steele can orbit around with horizontal horizon.
@@JoshuaBardwell Check his video...he can :). And BTW also physics says it's possible. You have to compensate gravity and centrifugal force, no need to be rolled.
Nice video. Not to offend anyone, but is this move really that difficult for most people? Seriously asking because without realizing until this video, it was a move I automatically started practicing and doing when I began flying less than a year ago. Mainly because I wanted to learn turning around objects, plus it's just fun. - Victor @ MWQ
how is this possible tho :( has soon as my ya goes below the center of the left joy stick it falls to the ground :( yours is below the center and still remains above the ground. I am using lift off simulator
Here's my method: th-cam.com/video/NrJ4TcIT_h4/w-d-xo.html Basically, I do it manually. I start with the moment of arming and then manually tweak from there.
@@JoshuaBardwell i must confess .. you are my english teacher .. in the start i die not understand one word from you, cause of your quick american pronunciation .. because of my new interesst to Open Tx and my never flying Kopis 2 and Taranis xd9+ - bought because of you :-) .. i lern more and more .. thank you so much!!!.. One thing is your best: If something is important, you can bring it to the point. Live in germany .. all the describtion here, are terrible around the point .. still one impression comes to me: your money and food comes through drone flying - Fantastic!!!😁
Go strait to acro and don't worry about crashing. I think for most people flying FPV in self level teaches you bad habits. I had a hard time with this as well since I'm still not great at line of sight flying in acro. Even with rates it's somewhat the same thing, you may think that low rates and high expo will keep you in control but once you start getting the muscle memory higher rates and less expo give you much more control over what the quad is actually doing. :-)
The solution to rate mode is contained on this very TH-cam channel. Follow +Joshua Bardwell's rate mode tutorial and you'll be flying acro mode so easily you'll never ever go back to self leveling mode. trust me on this one, it works!
Turn of levelling asap. O just went to a big open spot turned it off and took it easy for a few packs. You dont want to get used to self levelling and you never go back after running rate mode. If you have gotten used to flying self levelling you could slowly back off how aggressive it works.
I just call it the “making sure no one is screwing with me” move
I like how calm the dog is, hes used to this thing flying around.
Joshua, thankyou for being awesome and wearing those FRESH white socks. they kindof stole the show for me as they sat atop and beneath those CRISP shoes you got on my man. as always a great tutorial
Wow! As a newbie, exactly what I was looking for. All the videos talk about this, but only show the results. With your stick inputs showing, that, at least to me, is the most important part never, or very seldom shown. Thank You! Thank You! I'm now subscribed.
Thank you Again....I LEARN soooooo much on each of your videos, I have to go back and watch them over. Joshua, you are awesome for this INDUSTRY
TITAN of KNOWLEDGE!
You have earned my respect...look for me as a new patron
i think centering the object is the basis for a trippy spin, thanks JB🙏
I learned so much
+Mr Steele give me a break...
+Mr Steele congrats on your sub count BTW. I see you're about to break 100k.
Mr Steele You should think of doing some kind of "Trick Series" to show how you would do it. That might be a hit!
Nice guy
he allready did with rotorriot
You have a way of explaining things that has no equal in any channel that I know of.
AvE.....your welcome
Back in my Quake days we called it a circle strafe.
you are my new hero
I remember those days, too! They're not the reason why i call my take-off/landing "bunny hopping", though... ;-)
Circle strafe has existed since the dawn of fps, and we love it don `t we?
Yes we do ;)
Great tutorial Joshua - thank you so much! Will be practicing lots more in Liftoff with this. I’m aiming for 100 hours before I start flying my drone in full manual in real life 🙌
If the centre points stays the same, it's a funnel dude. Always been a funnel, always will be a funnel. It existed before quads, long before the delightful MR Steele did one, even before he knew what a heli or quad was.
If sideways and centre points moves, it's funnel turns.
Got to love how chill ur dog is why ur flying! lol
+Nathan Imig he's just given up on catching it.
Josh, you are an excellent teacher, keep it up.
Joshua, I assumed everybody just called this "sideswiping." Anyways, you break it down really well for those who learn this way...but I learn differently.
The way I learned was to just go out and try...started out very uncoordinated, like in jerky steps, with jerky corrections (some yaw, oh, then some roll, one after the other instead of coordinated). Eventually you practice enough, and watch enough Steele videos for inspiration, that suddenly you realize you're sideswiping with almost no visible corrections apparent on video. Achieving a smooth sideswipe will make you feel like a reasonably accomplished quad pilot, and really allows for some fantastic throttle control exercises--cheers
this is one of the many things I need to learn, love this trick
that's kind of what my bedroom looks like the morning after a night at the bar..lol. Good lesson Josh. Keep up the great work!
really well done Joshua, the tip on circling is one I have tried to describe to others, now I can them to your video.
Awesome. Glad it's helpful.
your dog is soooo relaxed .. nice flying and explain.
He's given up on trying to catch it.
Very educational my friend. Will be practicing these moves more. Thanks ✈️😊
Like always when watching a Bardwell vid, I learned something today.
The amount of different stick inputs is also dependent on camera tilt. The more your camera is tilted the more aileron you will use. Also throttle control is a huge part of getting locked in.
Keeping the target in one spot near the edge of the screen is exactly how dragonflies hunt.
I would call this more of an orbit. When I think of a "spin" I think of a rotation on axis within the boundaries of the object that is spinning, not the act of circling around a different object. Think of planes doing flat spins, or snowboarders / skaters / bmx doing 360's etc... rotations of that nature are always referred to as spins. The name you gave this maneuver is more confusing than the maneuver itself :-p When I think of a yaw spin I'm picturing a 360 on the yaw axis. Naming conventions aside, great tutorial! I'm sure this will help a lot of people.
The thing about circling yourself (or whatever you want to yaw spin around) in kind of your "peripheral vision" seems key to learning this type of trick and I wonder if I would have ever figured that out myself. JB is amazing with figuring out how to break things down so that inexperienced pilots have a much easier time learning moves. Thank you so much, Joshua! 👍👊👏🙏
Now if someone could make flying with uptilt click in my head...lol. I MUST have my uptilt at 0. At zero uptilt, I'm not horrible. Everything makes sense, I can put the quad where I want it, I'm working on flips and rolls and I'm definitely improving every time I fly, but I hate uptilt. Whenever I try to fly a quad with uptilt it's like I'm putting my hands on a transmitter for the first time all over again. I suck, there's no other way to say it. I can't judge altitude, and because upward thrust is no longer perpendicular to the direction I'm looking in, it completely hoses the control I feel at zero uptilt. At zero, I'm on my way to hero, but with uptilt, I AM a zero! 😉
Sorry for writing a book here folks. It's an attempt to see if by writing about it to explain it might make something click, which often seems to work for me. I realized my obvious next step in troubleshooting my Tiny Hawk just yesterday, while talking to a friend about it. Somehow, trying to explain something to someone who speaks the same language (techie) , more often than not, causes me to find the answer or at least ideas in the right direction. But back to my issue. So when uptilt enters the picture, the "misalignment" of the plane the camera is oriented in, and the control axes (is that the correct way to spell the plural of "axis"?) of the quad throws me for a loop (sorry, bad pun couldn't be helped 😂). Oh well, no clicks in my noggin so far, and I've run out of ways to keep droning on about it. I got nothing. 😐 I guess I'll just keep flying zero uptilt for now. As I improve overall, I'd hope I'll also get better at wrapping my brain around compensating for uptilt. If not, I'm more into the idea of freestyle than racing anyway. Maybe if I'm stuck at zero uptilt, I'll end up with really unique looking video that makes people wonder how I do certain moves, since everybody's used to seeing video shot with significant uptilt. I'm starting to think I might have to change my "handle" to ZeroUptiltFPV... 😜👍😁👊
Thank you for this awesome tutorial, I will try it out on the DRL sim. God bless 🙂🙏🏼❤️
Which quad do you fly in the DRL sim?
This is soooo the best Orbit tutorial!
Been struggling to perfect this for ages, this really helped
just getting the hang of these. going both ways is important to not learn a directional bias.
Great video Joshua.
Thanks I will give a try again. Great explanation.
Great video and breakdown, going to try it next time im flying.
Excellent tutorial.
You described in and instructed it better than Steel did
I've been practicing this. I thought the sticks would be like a gps camera drone with opposite yaw/row.... Thanks for clearing this up.... Now I'm getting it! HA hA, I've been doing this to my dog and she chases me!
i'm dizzy but i love this! happy weekend, my master :)
Learned to do this alone, then found your video :) typical of me LOL. Good stuff!
Thanks Joshua. Really help a lot.
Really great tutorial! Thanks.
nice work , love your trick tips .
you answered my question
thanks Josh....
Awesome! Training... That is very helpful!
I've been working on this. It's not as easy as it looks!
Man, you have a nice property. Must be nice to charge some batteries and just fly outside. I bet it helped with your skills a lot. Thanks for the videos.
You can decide for yourself if you go look up some of my FPV videos from a year ago ;-)
great job one day I may fly like you
I call it "orbit"
In Aerial Photography, this is known as a "Circle Pan".
i think you'll find that Mr Steele calls it orbiting too
harry lenon
I'm a SOLO CUP... I'm a SOLO CUP...Lol:)
this is not aerial photo, so its called orbit
I've always known it as circle strafing mostly from battlefield games when using an attack helicopter, but orbit is easier to say and makes sense especially to people that have no idea what you are talking about
Beautiful yard
Great video
Look at you with white pulled up socks, you gangsta!
That's pretty hard at the beginning but your trick is perfect :)
Thanks for the lesson this has helped me
Lol, I'm an idiot! The pooch comes bounding up and for a second, when JB said "Hello, puppy dog", I thought "How did he see the dog with the goggles on!!!" .
I am so jelly of Josh's property...GOALS!!!
from Battletech it was called "Kerensky's Circle of Death" :D
Thank you very much
you are amazing! and I hope one day I could fly with my dog staring calm beside me, but first times he just barked all the time and try to litteraly kill my drone 😅 however, I noticed that your right stick of the black box point exactly at you when you're orbiting, so next time I'll practice I'll try to point my left stick exactly in the direction of the object I'm orbiting, could be a good tip 😁
Me IRL watching you fly in circles. Now I'm dizzy.
this is a great tutorial, my biggest problem is rolling out, now I know why thank you! is there any way you can do a tutorial on the "Matty Flip" that would be awesome.
mattystunts has a tutorial on that brosef
I love to do an aggressive yaw spin leaving that trick
Nice video 👍💗....
Wow. If I can learn to fly half as proficiently as you I will be a happy bunny. :O)
Joshua, any chance you could do a video on how to do 2 things: A slow roll and a fast roll where in both cases the copter rolls along the camera axis as opposed to rolling along the copter axis? Apologies if this has already been covered, I didn't see it.
th-cam.com/video/9IvOP3trvQg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/yD1ibYsv8GA/w-d-xo.html
Well shucks, don't know how I missed that. Thanks! And next time, please try to respond faster. Hehe
No worries. I have a lot of videos. You would never have thought to search for "cross coordinate" like I knew to.
Thank you for this tutorial. I would love to see "How To Fly A Quadrocopter" series in this style.
In Reality.
It's called a drone. Why use a 3 syllable word when a 1 syllable solution is available. People are retarded
@@evaneverything119 both terms are correct. Why be a douche about it? 🤷🏼♂️
what i suggest YOU do, rip the springs from your gimbals. its all natural after that.
I'm sorry, the video is great, but the dog is REALLY cool!
in the 3D helicopter world this move is usually known as a nose-in funnel
Good dog. Thanks !
Well that clears things up... I have been trying to replicate this so many times but I alway rolled into the move and messed it all up.
A revolution, or orbit. Revolving around a centerpoint.
Have to dust off my old 3D helicopter skills for this move...lol
I actually thought I was watching Steele, until I saw those socks, Steele would never wear those socks with those shorts.
I dare say I wear more than one thing Steele wouldn't be caught dead in.
thanks for all your videos !! As a beginner, it's a gold mine for me !! But this orbit move is very tricky, and as I don't remember where is your yaw axis, I have difficulties to understand your moves. Do you think it's possible to add your fliying mode in all your videos ? Thanks again from France !!
+Arnaud Szobad it's mode 2.
Joshua Bardwell thanks! By the way, do you think I'm a freak by using mode 3? Actually, I played like 200 hours of Elite Dangerous on my Xbox One, and it's a mode 3 to fly a spaceship :-D
+Arnaud Szobad I recommend every pilot learn mode 2 because it is what other pilots are likely to use when you borrow their copters or watch their sticks. By using mode 3, you are making it harder for yourself to learn in the future.
Joshua Bardwell maybe you're right, I'll have to learn again from the beginning everything in mode 2, I just didn't find the patience till now to do it... And modify my taranis again 😂 Thanks for your fast answers, I know now that if I need help, you are there! I'll eventually let you know my progress in mode 2 😊
I am really confused now. I found two videos of guys showing how to circle something and one way both joysticks are inward. The other way and both sticks go outward. Works on simulator too. Wasn’t able to circle till I tried that. You have both sticks outward right. Or outward left. Been too windy to fly here. Going to test on simulator
This is different than Steele's. In your case the quad is always rolled a bit to the right so the horizon is tilted, while Steele can orbit around with horizontal horizon.
No, he can't :-)
The quad cannot move sideways if the horizon is flat. The quad must be rolled to the side to move sideways.
@@JoshuaBardwell Check his video...he can :). And BTW also physics says it's possible. You have to compensate gravity and centrifugal force, no need to be rolled.
Funnel! its a long time 3D helicopter move. Copter Dog is much more chill these days!
He's figured out he can't catch it so now he feigns disinterest.
Very nice tutorial. Good work. Jeff
we call that a funnel on helicopters
ab slayer and looks proper when done backwards inverted.
thx sensei !
Bards, I need help orbiting a moving object. Tutorial... please?
What part of the country are you in? It looks gorgeous there!
Nice video.
Not to offend anyone, but is this move really that difficult for most people?
Seriously asking because without realizing until this video, it was a move I automatically started practicing and doing when I began flying less than a year ago.
Mainly because I wanted to learn turning around objects, plus it's just fun.
- Victor @ MWQ
how is this possible tho :( has soon as my ya goes below the center of the left joy stick it falls to the ground :( yours is below the center and still remains above the ground. I am using lift off simulator
Thanks Joshua! Let me ask you, how do you sync the main video and the sticks layer? Which technique do you use?
Here's my method: th-cam.com/video/NrJ4TcIT_h4/w-d-xo.html
Basically, I do it manually. I start with the moment of arming and then manually tweak from there.
you fly so often, that you dog is not looking anynore .. real funny
He gave up after like 2 weeks.
@@JoshuaBardwell i must confess .. you are my english teacher .. in the start i die not understand one word from you, cause of your quick american pronunciation .. because of my new interesst to Open Tx and my never flying Kopis 2 and Taranis xd9+ - bought because of you :-) .. i lern more and more .. thank you so much!!!.. One thing is your best: If something is important, you can bring it to the point.
Live in germany .. all the describtion here, are terrible around the point .. still one impression comes to me: your money and food comes through drone flying - Fantastic!!!😁
What do you use to stick this pretty overlay from black box (i assume you grab stick pos from blackbox)?
And how do you syncronize it with video?
th-cam.com/video/MclZFLNG234/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately, this exact technique doesn't work any more with betaflight 3.1's log files.
You call this trick orbit in your email newsletter so you should probably change the title of this video to call it an orbit too.
very nice.
if I ever get confident enough to fly acro mode..
still flying self level mode..
having trouble doing this in self level mode.. lol
Go strait to acro and don't worry about crashing. I think for most people flying FPV in self level teaches you bad habits. I had a hard time with this as well since I'm still not great at line of sight flying in acro. Even with rates it's somewhat the same thing, you may think that low rates and high expo will keep you in control but once you start getting the muscle memory higher rates and less expo give you much more control over what the quad is actually doing. :-)
The solution to rate mode is contained on this very TH-cam channel. Follow +Joshua Bardwell's rate mode tutorial and you'll be flying acro mode so easily you'll never ever go back to self leveling mode. trust me on this one, it works!
I agree. If you are flying FPV, acro actually makes more sense because the stick motions move the camera, and everything is consistent.
Turn of levelling asap. O just went to a big open spot turned it off and took it easy for a few packs. You dont want to get used to self levelling and you never go back after running rate mode.
If you have gotten used to flying self levelling you could slowly back off how aggressive it works.
Which camera do you use in this drone ?????
Thank U
Josh, what are you using to overlay the stick inputs?
th-cam.com/video/MclZFLNG234/w-d-xo.html
Your battery lasts for quite long, is this 2200mah on 250 frame?
interesting as to touch the sticks lik this looks more as angle so autolevel mode, I do it at autolevel by roll and yaw
Whoa I'm dizzy.
3:10 if you cover your left eye with sunglasses, it looks 3d
Come on, you must have a clip where you fly into yourself ;)
+Acd FPV not yet.
Almost happen to me today 🤣
Forward pitch!!! I should have known
OMG thats map from LIFTOFF... :D
does air mode make a difference in this?
No. Air mode only applies when you are at low or zero throttle.
Was this in self-level mode, or was it in acro?
Acro. Always. Every top pilot you see on TH-cam is flying acro. Unless maybe it's a tiny whoop.
I thought it was univerally called an "orbit"?