MY FPV SIGNAL SUCKS?! 😤 WHY?
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The single largest problem I see is people who fit a patch or other directional antenna and then fly with their head down so that that antenna is simply point at the ground a few yards in front of them. That will *significantly* compromise the integrity of your signal because you're effectively only flying on a single omni and your patch does virtually nothing. If people want to fly with their head down then make sure the patch/directional is angled upwards to compensate so that it is effectively pointing at the horizon.
Yes yes yes ! And minimize the Stevie Wonder if you can haha. Glad to have you here Bruce
lol yeah.. I don't understand why people do this.. to me it comes natural to point the head into the sky really... or locate with the ears where the noise comes from.. Iam a musician so I guess it helps to locate audio signals and deal with reflection .. but again.. do people really fly in the sky and basically stare at the ground? not only that.. somebody that builds a quad should basically get the relation between his video signal and where the quad is, and also, how the position of the quad (antenna) relates to that.. basic knowledge if you ask me:)
Lmao I only noticed I did this a few days ago... I decided to orbit myself for fun one time and I was looking pretty much straight down. No wonder my video sucks.
Yes, so many people headdown the patch to the ground... maybe they think it will reflect the signal? Hhhh
@@hallio111 same here. when I do a powerloop my eyes try to see what's coming next. so I look up. why would I look down?
Your description of rolling shutter effect is incorrect. What you describe (static rotors on a heli) are actually just an effect of a fast shutter speed. Rolling shutter usually produces an angling effect on verticals when using high pan/yaw rates. This can translate vibration into "jello". CCDs don't suffer from this because they have a global shutter so in effect the sensor data is frozen when read, whereas the CMOS reads a row at a time and the image can change between reads causing rows that are offset relative to each other.
A small point though.
When I do a few 20 minute one takes I get slightly brain dead. But in this case I was legitimately mistaken. Always a mistake here and there. Thanks for the correction Bruce. Hope you are well
@@MrSteeleFPV two great icons in Hobby.. brovo.. made me proud to be in Hobby again.... Part of mankind at this point.. lol 👊👊💪💪
Damn, you know this shit...
@@MrSteeleFPV All well here, thanks for asking. Don't worry, I know how the brain-fade works... just wait until you get to my age and it becomes a *real* problem! Love your stuff and you covered all the right bases with this video. Great work.
@@xjet it makes me happy to see kind friendship between you two young and experienced folk ^_^
One other tip: Clean your SMA connectors every once and a while.
Especially with cheaper SMA connectors you can get some metal dust or plating ending up in the connector which can reduce performance by quite a lot.
I use alcohol and a q-tip to clean them out.
Or just buy extras and replace... they're like the least expensive product that exists. Mine feel wiggly after a while. Good tip tho 👌
You kno how much money you have cost me???!!!! And yes its all your fault!!!! You got me hooked!! You turned me into an addict!!! You were my first FPV video just over a year ago now, and god damn I love you for it!!!! Thank you!!!!!
😂 If just had read the first sentence I would have thought you were truly pissed 😂
The feeling of going out and just flying. The fun and freedom is totally worth it.
I realized I don't need to have the newest and best parts. The hobby got a lot cheaper for me when I stopped replacing perfectly good parts just because something 10% better came out. I also stopped buying spare parts. I only build complete quadcopters. I noticed I would buy spares, then something better would come out and I would buy the new stuff and never use the spares. Spare quads are better than less quads and lots of random parts.
Really appreciate your videos man. A lot of good content delivered in a good pace so that the viewer doesnt get bored, but also clear and articulate enough to understand everything you're explaining. Also never asking people to click affiliate links and never sounding like you're selling stuff. Great videos, content, and advice! Thanks dude!
Twist your wire with a Ground wire. They call it “twisted pair” wiring. It’s a poor-mans shielded conductor.
Wouldn't actual shielding be better still? I mean it's all but impossible to used shielded cables throughout your quad and there are almost always ground pads nearby to ground the shielding.
@@Gosuminer overkill
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It helps clarify next steps for improving my fpv signal.
You have been my favorite pilot since I started, like (4) years ago, you’re an amazing pilot that to this day motivates me to fly and and practice after watching you maneuver/pilot your Aliens and now Apex:) thanks 👊🏽
Love how you can explain things and it makes sense. Very informative.
Great info, I like the idea of the dual regulation system for the power. That makes so much sense to do. And it makes much more sense now on why most 5v switching regulators don’t last. Never knew how they worked.
Hi, superb video really appreciate it it helps me as a newbie so much. You are person who got me into FPV and as a newbie 2 years in your videos still make me want to fly day after day. Thank you 👍
Thanks for talking fast and getting right to the point. No fast forward necessary during watching. Great info. Didn't know about the receiver grade A B C etc. Thx.
Thank you for the motivation for getting into FPV 👍👍
Good video and out of all the “FPV Bosses” you are one that I take advise from and learn from. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks allot for spending time of your day to share your knowledge of years of experience with the rest of the FPV community!
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos specially to watch you fly as you make it seem so easy!
🙏🏼. I’ll
Post more flying then
@@MrSteeleFPV 👍
But please do also continue sharing your knowledge, whenever you feel like.
Just keep on being yourself and doing what you love cause it makes a lot of people's lives happier!
Thank you senpai Steele, your knowledge is always appreciated 🙏🏼
Ever since I got the money to start flying your exact setup I've literally had zero problems. Knowing I can just charge my shit and go out and fly and that it just works every time is so freeing.
Dude, thank you for explaining "A bin, B bin, C bin". I have tried to explain that about tiny micro motors that seem to be "from the same manufacturer."
Back in the hey day of brushed motors the very best and expensive ones had an 18% variance in power and life...and the cheaper ones were crazy higher percentages.
It’s a real
Thing
Gotta love a Mr. Steele video when it does come out.
That was a super awesome overview. Thanks Mr. Steele.
Thanks for this Steele! You the man brotha! God I wish I could fly like you🤣 Hope airythangs good🤙
Thanks GREAT info I just got ORQAs and a rapid fire using you antennas.
Steele, I did what you said in this vid and purchased the antennas. I'm very impressed. Worth every cent I paid for the two antennas. Brilliant products!
Literally the one question I ask every video, you are truly the chosen one
OMD tysm i was looking for a video like this for so long but no one has made a video on this ty
I had bad video all the time. TBS Fusion with the VAS Antennas changed everything. Video is incredible
Man this was amazing helps me out a lot
That's one crazy speed talking one shot explanation, kudos Mr Steele, kudos!
nice refresher, got out of the hobby for a couiple years, nice concise video to bring me back up to speed thanks
Great vid for analog tips! - I still have one Apex and one Alien (all Steele setup) in analog and have rapid fire and FS HDO2 goggles but rarely use them now after converting another Apex and Alien to digital- I just like being able to go further out and behind buildings and through trees with hardly any signal loss and worries. The only thing I don’t like about digital is when you are way far out and get behind a few trees and start seeing lag- but the way I see it is if I was flying my analog quads I would not ever be out that far anyway. I love all FPV but am really enjoying how well I can see with digital. I might just have to pick up a fusion and those antennas tho to give that a try- Steele’s setups have always been awesome in my experience.
Love it bro. Keep doing what you do.
Omg love you video lol ! Great job man hope to fly with you again soon !
Fantastic tips, dude! Thanks a lot! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Unify v3 is so tiny but solid as hell really powerful. Love the 5v
Great video!!! Thanks for all the hard work on providing us with all this info. In my opinion. Everyone new starting this should start with anolog. There is a lot to be learned and gained from choosing this path and will only benefit you if you are serious about learning this hobby. This comes from a pilot that is now digital but still flies analog quads and flew them for close to 3 years. 😉
Thank you for the thoroughness. 🤙
This video was super super helpful. Thanks!
Ordered some antennas for my Skyzone O2X’s. I know, I know, they’re not Fatsharks but they do have a decent module built in. Great job Mr Steele.
Thank you mr. Steele!!!
Very informative and helpful video. I'm so close on my Fettec to being awesome build, got some video noise( flies great) . Not impressed with the regulator I'm using. I'm ordering an Impulserc board now. Thanks 👍🤓
First off I would like to say thank you for taking the time to make this video! You really made it easy to understand on explaining the causes of video/receiver issues. Also I was glad to hear you explain why your quads are priced on the higher end. You usually get what you pay for. You rock bro! Thanks for inspiring me to get into this hobby and making laugh my ass off at times.
My videosignal on both big quads (5S and 6S with Rush Tank Ultimate V2 + foxeer 5) is extraordinary clear and clean.
In my opinion two things are important, a capacitator and the small antenna-cable between the VTX and SMA should not touch anything conductable and it should also not too much bend. A constant curve or ideally a straight line in the antenna cable from VTX to SMA seems ideal. If the cable is too much bend or pressed inside the frame, it will almost definitely touch something which compromises the signal. This setup even works very well with the cheap Eashine EV800D beginners goggles.
i feel its simpler than all that with you get better stuff and service, either you buy it once now for alot or you end up buying it later for the same but you pay for it twice since you bought the cheap stuff first
also you do alot, your videos are what got me into the hobby
That makes sense.. im searching for what antennas i should buy.. one omni for my nazgul evoque and a omni and patch for my goggles for analog but im not sure, what exactly i should pick..
Good Antennas are so key. I’m running Eachine ev 800d on 600mw. I get great video through 2/3 concrete wall with not problem.
I have them with two VAS antennas and have similar penetration 👍
thanks so much for this exlanation, man. yes i've learned from you
Correct on the video rx antenna. In 15 yrs working with point to point radios, I consistently observe that making the receiver more sensitive is better than making the transmitter more powerful.
iv got a unify v3 thats 2 years old , been at the bottom of a lake before, and still works flawlessly. definately a solid piece of tech
about twisted wires, make sure to just twist Plus & Negative (red & black) wires to reduce EMF, otherwise if you twist 2 Plus (red) wires you'll increase EMF.
The way he turns around in the chair at the beginning reminds me of Dr. Claw from inspector gadget!
Imagine if Steele said at the end of the video like BotGrinder " Now buy my shit" hahaha
He doesn't have to I do it anyway lol
@@baggszilla yeah I will buy his shit without being asked
He did say it not too long ago on a video of botgrinder. (to buy botgrinders shit, not his lol)
Now buy my weed
Hey Steele just so you know your latest drone is still the smoothest flying quadcopter i've ever had, could've saved a ton of money if i just spent the $$$$ before hand instead of taking the long road of trail and error
Great video! Thanks! I'm still trying to figure all this stuff out. I'm 54 years old with airplane, motorcycle & drag car addictions. Now somebody showed me an FPV drone. Those bastards....!!.....!!..... Looks like addiction #4 is well underway. And the way you fly. Damn dude. You kill it.
Thanks for your videos... I did them alot. They deffently learn sumthing..
nice!
also started using headphone to monitor motor rpms.
14:23, would be awesome to see your video on how you evaluate/measure your air space for radio interference during pre-flight and then how you adjust to it. thx for this video.
Thanks for the vid. Great info.
This was very specific for me, but my pigtail connector to my antenna broke when i removed it (so im guessing it was about to go bad) so i replaced it, i also switched out the little stubby antenna for one thats 5 inches long, my range went from about 50-100 meters to 1km with these 2 changes. (might be longer, rx is still frsky so i cant test) Obviously if you are doing heavy freestyle you won't want a longer antenna, but if you are just cruising or getting cinematic shots i highly recommend it, the interference is non existent almost and any orientation gives you good signal.
Great mind reading! Your microwave looks much better than mine. 🤣🤣🤣 checking out your server next. Thanks for the insight on the gear.
New to FPV, I have had the most horrendous video and tried everything possible to fix it. After watching this video, I reached out to Fatshark, and they asked me to send them my HDO2's and Rapidfire as they were still under warranty. After a few days I got an email saying that my Rapidfire was defective and that they were replacing it and I am waiting for it now.
Thank you for this video because I was really at the point of just giving up, and also considering saving money to buy DJI goggles.
Man you really do care about our FPV experience, thanks
This is a great video, I learned something today. Actually multiple things
Almost 2am perfect time 4 some yt intertainment
I used to have analog with top end components but found the vtx would not last , but my main problem I could not work out , going from sunlight to tree cover the picture got very dark . Now with dji it just works in the sun , shade and never breaks . I’m sure there is a answer to my analog experience , but finding it all good now with more time flying .
HELLYEAAAAH! THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! thanks for that mr steele!
All this time always wondering why his analog DVR is so crystal clear like a digital
Here comes the recipe
Totally agreed with your suggestion to do Digital for beginners or ones who doesn't wanna hassle to figure stuff like receiver, antenna etc
I started with Analog and move to Digital for easier experience
@Yourname Here yeah just wondering tho i don't use analog... Digital user here 😅
I didn’t ever think about cascading regulators and external osd board. But it makes sense to separate video from motor outputs. How do you still measure the voltage? Does your osd module have connection direct to the battery?
thanks for the vids! got all my stuff nailed down after 4 years. Thanks for all the input. Working on a 3rd backup, have 3 spare parts, bout to buy 9 extra motors (stout v3s) so I'm prepared for the drone pocolyps. Fly till I die. :) - you should say buy your stuff ASAP and get some of that panic buy money over the next couple years - then release new stuff. ;) Jk. lol
I only fly 2 Axii Lhcp or 2 Rhcp on my Orqa's with RapidFire. One long vertical and one stubby horizontal with a matching Axii on 5" quads as well as a small Axii on my Kabab Tp3's, Linear polarized and just a Frsky Rx antenna, (forget the name) with the center wire extended to approximately the correct length and I like it.
Just the intro deserves a like😂😂😂
i just changed my vtx and rx antennas to a really long sma cable, hardwired together basically. much better signal now :D
You sir deserve a reach around 🤟
i use aluminium tape to stick on the back and the sides of the camera reduces alot of noise and gives a analog signal that almost as good as the fatshark hd :) also besides having a good camera good antenna's good vtx , good receiver module ,, ,, you also need good solder joints ,, on the whole quad ,, makes interfearance alot less :)
4:00 rolling shutter does not cause helicopters blades or car's wheels to stop. It just distorts objects.
You had me with “Ramen Shenanigans”
Hey, best wishes from Central Texas.
Hey man, could you please make a video showing in detail how you are powering your electronics? Which regulators are you using, which LC Filter. This is not described on the video description and it would be super nice to know.
finally. i have been having problems for soo long. Educate me mr. steele!
I'm an electronics engineer. For best power you want the linear regulator as close as possible to your camera, osd, and VTX. The switching regulator can be placed anywhere. On the output of the linear reg, use 0.1uf and 10uf ceramic capacitors with a small aluminum cap, maybe 33uf or so. All caps should be rated to 10v or more. You can also place ferrite beads (also called ferrite chokes) in series with any wire that touches the fc (like your osd telemetry). I don't know the frequency of the noise, but that choke should be tuned as close as possible to the noise frequency. You probabaly need an oscilloscope for that. Cheerio.
I have to say, this video impressed me on a number of different levels. Refreshing to hear and see you give advice and help and not try and plug all your gear man.
Found it informative and fun to watch and learn. Keep this kinda stuff coming please Mr Steele.
he’s gonna plug gear, he sells it for a living
Thanks. I've heard that sma connectors are not made to be plugged/unplugged. What do you think about that ?
I have the same video receiver and antennas for years now (rapidfire and vas), so i plugged/unplugged antennas hundreds of time and i think my video reception quality is decreasing. I think i will buy a new receiver and antennas.
Thanks for the shout out! 💜
I had to do a double take to make sure I heard right, as didn't exactly remember whether I'm still a patreon or not. 😅 Turns out I am (and see no reason to change that).
🙌🙏🏼. Thank you !!!!
Can you do an updated kwad build guide or walk through of what gear you use would love to see why you uses it and what the best setup is with minimal brake up as I need to get a fair amount in place I shouldn’t...
And all I just purchased your camera and my video is great as in it’s very pixelated and I’m not sure why. I have good antennas and vtx and module so I don’t really know what the problem is do you any ideas what it could be???
4:01: That's simply incorrect. The rolling shutter effect distorts the image, the effect you mention does not. It simply is an aliasing effect produced when the motion of a subject in the image matches with an integer multiplier of the framerate of the camera
Damn😮 for a second i thought there was a ghost at the door behind you...then realized the creepy moving shadow is just a big fan rotating😮
Thanks, plenty of good infos. So whats your take on fusion vs rapidfire? Anything particular you preferring fusion over rapidfire?
From other trusted testers. Fusion is slightly faster. But over all performance of both is similar if not the same. The user interface on the fusion is pretty damn awesome now
What Cascading Switching/Linear regulator are you using? Oh I found the info down the comments. But what if , dare I say , fly fixed wing...What might I put together to get better filtering? Now my wings are tiny aerobatic and stuffed with fpv goodness. First I will shorten the wire rat nest, then twist.
LOL, love the intro!
Thank you Big S.
I’ve always preferred CCD over CMOS going back to the Sony super had board cams like was used on the TBS discovery.
Dude, you're my FPV Hero. Fly on brother. God's speed.
Hey bro great vid im just starting out n tryna punch in as much info as i can your flying is insane!!!
Im also from New Zealand n that last shout out look like a Māori last name Wairoa may be pronounced Y-RO-A i could be wrong but shot for giving it a stab G.C. 🤟😎🤙
🙏🏼✊🏼✊🏼. Thanks M8. One day I’ll make it down there and chill with you guys and the strayans
@@MrSteeleFPV STRAYA!!!
I’ve not seen a video about having interference at a flying site and testing or selecting a frequency that works better and against the interference yet...please do one of those.
More tech
🤣 perfect intro, Steel,🤟
So putting my crossfire nano rx right on top of my vtx wasn’t a great idea? Hahaha I’ll move it later today....
let’s see if it helps!
Thanks for the shout out! Another great video!
✊🏼
You mention not using SmartAudio. How do you change channel if your one is busy ? switch button on the Vtx ?
Love your flying and thanks for sharing your experience
With the button
I don't think just tossing a linear regulator after a switchmode is going to get rid of the switching noise. Better to stick to good decoupling and the best low-ripple dc to dc converter possible for the heaviest loads, then maybe separate the smaller ones to come straight off short-run linear regulators.
Great information. I know you are a busy man and this video is a cou0ple of months old, but do you have links for the OSD board and the Cascade regulator?
I am just getting in but seeing this and his grey hair makes me feel old cause I have been following him for years before I got into this
You know what's weird, without knowing or intention I have ended up with very similar goggle setup, When I first started flying FPV I just used R8, for no reason exactly, however I later learned that because it's outside the 5Ghz WiFi range (It's used for satellites though...) that I get less interference in suburbia...
I'm interested in what you've said about RFI, I have some ideas to reduce noise for RC that I haven't seen anyone talk about, so might wait till I make it work to say what ;)
I've always used it because raceband sounds cool and 8 is just the biggest number