2022 Osprey Exos 48 REVIEW vs Osprey Atmos AG 65 | Wild camping rucksack | Hiking backpack
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- A look at the brand new 2022 Osprey Exos 48. Hip belt pockets are back!
In this video I compare the 2022 Exos 48 to the Atmos AG 65 as well as looking at the features built into the Exos 48 which was launched one month ago in April 2022. I want to reduce my pack weight for summer wild camping, and this new backpack will really help with that.
This video highlights similarities and differences between these two packs, so I hope it helps you to decide if the new Exos 48 is for you.
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I also have the Atmos AG 65, great bag but I agree that the weight of it is quite a bit. I've been looking at the Osprey Talon 44 too for summer camping. Looking forward to your reveiw after you've been out on a few more adventures.
The Talon can be bought for a good price now, and is just that bit heavier than the Exos. Now that I have the Exos 48, I know that 44 litres would have been more than big enough! Thanks for watching, and I'll be back with an Exos follow-up 👍
Just the review I was looking for. Great video. Thanks.
Good! There will be a follow-up video at some point in the not-so-distant future, but I'm glad this helped.
Hey! Thanks for your overview/review! I bought the 2022 Osprey Exos 38 and just came back from a back 8 day trip through the alps (started in Austria, Trins and ended up in Italy, Bolzano). Had to carry around 8-9kg for 155km and the backpack was just amazing. It's durable and easy to use. Can't wait for the next big tour with this amazing gear set! I wish there would be a easier way to attach hiking poles if you dont need them. thats the only issue I had :)
Hi! I'm glad to hear that your Exos worked well for you. 155 km is a good test! I'm really enjoying mine too, and still get surprised by how light it is. That must have been some amazing hiking in Austria and Italy. I don't use walking poles (yet), so can't really comment on that bit, sorry. Thanks for watching 😊
Dis you bring tent and sleeping bag and so on? :)
@@clarissamao5631 Hi, we didnt need a tent since we slept at pensions or at some sort of airbnb :) sleeping bag + a inlent yes! Totally fits in if you pack your backpack smart :)
I have just watched your video about packing your Exos 48, and I can see why it works for you. My gear is more bulkier, and I'm wearing more clothes, like hard shells, so again it all comes to personal preferences. Thanks' for your videos anyway.
That video was purely for my really lightweight summer gear. My winter gear is very different - much bigger and heavier. I was thinking a few days ago that I need to make a video about packing my winter gear. I think I might switch back to my Atmos 65 again for the next cold camp. Thanks for watching 😊👍
Yeah I have the Atmos 65 and I also found that it is way too much volume in the warmer months!!! Great video and two awesome packs!!!
Thank you 🙏🏻 I'm now wondering if I can get away with the Exos 48 through autumn/winter, but that might be too optimistic. The pack fills up fast with down jackets and layers, hey? Thanks for watching 👍 James.
Great overview. Since it’s a new bag out, I’d be more interested to know if you’ve got a chance to use it and if it performed to your expectations. I heard somewhere else that padding is not as great and comfortable. I wanted to know more before I go for Exos 58.
I've only had the bag out once so far, on a camping trip. I found it to be really comfortable, but don't consider one outing to be enough to give a solid review yet. I'll get a few more miles under my belt with it and will upload a follow-up video with positives and negatives. The only negative so far is a bit of creaking, but I expected a bit of that from a pack with a frame. I love everything else about it so far!
spot on review, i going to pick up the 38ltr exos tomorrow, i also have the 65ag and yes its too heavy at base weight for summer, i have a g4-20 gossamer gear summer pack 42ltr and i really love it but its frameless and over 10kg my shoulders really suffer so this looks like the perfect balance of base weight vs comfort
Thanks Davie. I almost wish I'd gone for the 38 myself, as I keep having room to spare in the 48, now that I've upgraded some of my camping gear this summer. That said, the weight difference between the 38 and the 48 is minimal, so I don't beat myself up about it too badly! I hope you get on well with it. Thanks for watching 👍
Hi Davie, would you say that the capacity between the 38l and the G4-20 is almost the same?
Nice review 👍 Thank you for sharing
Thanks Arnstein. I hope you're well ✌️
Nice overview. I love Osprey bags, but not the cost of them! I'll keep trawling the used ads to see if I can find a lighter, more compact summer bag!
I was quite strict with my requirements for this bag, and nothing else ticked the boxes (e.g. weight, hip belt pockets, bladder accommodation). I found out that you can spend over £500 on a rucksack, which was an eye-opener! I've had cheaper rucksacks and didn't want/need to compromise on comfort or features again, so I hope this pack does the trick. I hope you find what you're after 👍
@@joinmeoutdoors I'm sure I'll bite the bullet at some point and invest. My Stratos 26 has lasted me years and has been brilliant so I like Osprey bags. Just become obsessed with the £20 used bag market!
@@TheWalkingKev Yeah that's the thing - an Osprey pack should last a very long time, and has a lifetime warranty, so I'm happy to spend the extra and not have to worry about it failing. I know you love a used bargain (as do I!), so I look forward to you rubbing a second hand winner in my face in due course 😂
No compartment at the bottom for the sleeping bag? Boo. Great video
Thanks Rick, and that's right - there is no separate zipped compartment at the bottom for a sleeping bag. My Atmos 65 has one, but my sleeping bag tends to be one of the last things I need to unpack anyway, so I only use that little hatch for my tent pegs!
Great review James
I’m after a bit of advice.
I have the old exos 48 I love it.
However winter I struggle with the size.
I’m thinking of the atmos 65 I love the look.
Or do I buy the new exos 58 which keeps weight down ?
What would you do as you know both bags ?
Atb Graham
Hi Graham. Thanks, I'm glad it was a useful video. Besides the capacity difference, I think the main functional differences that I'd be aware of between the two packs are as follows: Atmos has more padding on the straps, includes a stowable rain cover, and has a zippable bottom compartment. I've carried my Exos 48 loaded to 15 kg and still found it comfy, but perhaps the Atmos would be more comfortable on multi-day hikes with more weight in? That said, it is almost twice the weight of the Exos! Prices are similar, with the Atmos coming in at around £20 more than the Exos. It's quite nip and tuck really! I've also released another video where I discuss my likes and dislikes about the Exos 48, which may help you a bit more 👍
The likes/dislikes vid is here: th-cam.com/video/mw_aZxgDmJA/w-d-xo.html
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Thanks very much James
It's a bag I have been thinking about for ages... I have a 65 L Lowe Alpine Cholaste which I seem to fill up to bursting.. a smaller pack will hopefully encourage me to leave stuff at home..lol. Nice one. atb Alan
I've always been the same with my 65 litre pack! Now that I've down-sized, I keep finding that I have spare room. Still trying to work that one out 😂 Maybe it's time to give it a go with the smaller bag and see if you too can shift space and time like I can with the Exos 48?
Hi, thx for the review. Have you had a chance to take it out on a hike fully loaded? I understand there maybe a “comfort” issue with the “location” of the new suspension “adjustment “ levers design. They appear to stick out and push into your shoulder blades. Any feedback? TY!
Hi Marc. I completed 13 miles of hiking over the last two days, with a pack weight of 12 kg. I didn't have any comfort issues at all, but I'll pay close attention to the area you mentioned. I plan on posting a follow-up video once I've done a few camping trips, then I can talk about the good points and any bad points that crop up with a bit more use 👍
Great video, thank you.
I'm in a similar position having the Atmos 65 but looking for a lighter option.
Looked at the Atom Packs, but not sure about the lack of back of it, seems like it can get a bit warm in summer time.
Reason I'm holding on the Exos is the adjustment of the back, seen a few coments about the plastic adjustments causing a bit of rubbing and disconfort.
Is that something you have experienced?
Thanks Rui ✌️ Comfort hasn't been an issue for me at all with the Exos, and I've overloaded it numerous times so that it was carrying more weight than the recommended amount. Some other people have commented on this video asking if I have had any problems with the strap height adjustment system (the "ladder" system), but personally, it hasn't given me any problems at all.
@@joinmeoutdoors hi thank you for your reply.
Thats what I mean the ladder system. Came across a few people saying that it caused a few issues specialy while using just a tshirt.
Will probably wait a bit to see if an updated version comes out with the velcro system.
Also seen a few complaints about the same system on the stratos. Opted for the Deuter 26 for my day pack and is actually good with a few good features and great back system.
By making the back adjustable and replacing the hip belt pockets, Osprey have made the near perfect backpack ! I have the older green colour Exos 48, its a brilliant pack, but Id buy the new one now if I had the spare cash ! The access holes to the side pockets are very useful. The new hip belt buckle seems/looks a bit fragile though ? Exellent video !
I reckon it's close to perfect too! I'm not having any issues with the hop belt buckle, though I agree that it looks lightweight. It feels nice and sturdy so far. Thanks for the comment! 😊
nice! I'm enjoying the Exos 58 (old model)
It's been a very popular model over the years! 🙂
I would like to see the way you pack your gear in the Exos 48, it seems to me it is too small for the tent, sleeping system, cooking , food etc. I'm still doing my research for the pack, and Exos 58 looks more promising. Exos 58 sits between Atmos 50 and 65 but with less weight, and it looks like a sweet spot to me. What do you think?
Hi Rade. Yes, I would have to say that it is a LITTLE bit small for my winter gear really - particularly when I'm carrying filming gear and my drone. My Atmos 65 is more suitable, but weighs almost 1 kg more than my Exos 48, so you can see why I'm still using the Exos! 😆 I camped last night but used a smaller tent and didn't take my drone. The Exos 48 was juuuust about right for that setup, but still slightly small. The 58 would have been perfect for me, but it all depends on what kit you use.
For me Exos 38 has the perfect size for most backpacking trips. But only because I'm using a trekking pole tent that doesen't use too much space. I use it in the winter too, but only when I'm staying at a shelter, because my winter sleeping bag is double the size the 3 season one.
I can see how the 38 litre pack works well for you, with your trekking pole tent. I think I might try a smaller pack this summer, just to see if I can make it work. My filming equipment takes up some space too, so I could use even smaller packs if I didn't carry that gear as well 👍
Have you had any issues with squeaking from the Exos 48? Also, have you had any issues with that weird torso adjustment ladders on your back? Thank you
Hi Ryan. I've just had the Exos out (yesterday and today) for the first time, on a wild camp. I noticed some squeaking today, which I don't think was there at first. This was after about 10 miles of walking, with a total pack weight of 12 kg. I didn't have any issues with the adjustable frame though. Is there anything specific I should be looking out for? Although I'd prefer not to have any squeaking, I kind of assume that something made of a mixture of straps and plastic buckles/frameworks buckles will squeak when loaded up. Perhaps I'm being too easy on Osprey here?
As an update - I manipulated the pack today, to find out where the creaking is coming from. It appears to be coming from the bottom of the metal wire back frame. This lower section runs inside a fabric sleeve, and because the metal wire is very stiff (and very shiny), the fabric is pulled really tight over the wire. When the wire then moves within the fabric sleeve (e.g. when you're walking), it creaks and squeaks. I imagine some form of lubricant would temporarily mute it, or perhaps some felt, but it's a fairly inaccessible area.
Thank you for the review!
Does the hip belt pockets in the exos are the same size as the ones on the Atmos?
It's Really important for me since I put my phone in the hip pockets. (I have the Atmos and thinking about upgrading to the exos).
No problem! I think the pockets are a very similar size between the Atmos and Exos. I always keep my Amgaze anemometer and three tent pegs in the right hand pocket, as well as my car key. I moved all of these items over from the Atmos to the Exos yesterday, and they all fitted in. The anemometer is 105 mm long, 40 mm wide and 18 mm deep. I'll try to remember to see if my phone (Samsung S21) fits in both pack pockets tomorrow, and if there's any more/less room around the phone in either pack 👍
Sounds good, waiting for the test results 😀
Another question... I heard that the shoulder straps was really thin on the previous exos model.. what do you think about their width in the new version?
@@yonatanstrauss6885 One of my Instagram followers said that he had found his Exos straps uncomfortable, so I kept that in mind, but had no discomfort anywhere today or yesterday (6 miles yesterday, 7.5 miles today, with a 12 kg pack weight). I'm not sure how the strap widths compare between the 2022 model and previous years though I'm afraid.
@@yonatanstrauss6885 I can confirm that my Samsung S21 fits in the hip belt pockets on the 2022 Exos 48 (and the Atmos AG 65). I also left the anemometer and 3 tent pegs in the pocket at the same time, for info. Hope that helps!
Helps a lot!
Thank you very very much!
Is the side pockets smaller now due to the belt pocket compared with the older generation without belt pockets?
I'm afraid I don't own the older Exos backpack, and I don't have volume data for the side pockets, so I am unable to answer that question. In terms of width, the side pockets accommodate a standard sports water bottle. I can actually pack two of these 500 ml water bottles in each side pocket, one on top of the other. I hope that helps!
Hi. Thanks for review. I see that the side compression straps run on the outside of the side stretch pockets. Can these compression straps be rerouted/changed, so they will run inside the pocket? Because in the original setup, if you pull these straps also the side pocket gets compressed, and it looks that it will be then difficult to get things in/out from these pockets, like water bottle. Thanks :)
Hi. That's a good question, and you are absolutely right - tightening these straps against anything packed into the side pockets does make it harder to withdraw/replace any items from/into the side pockets. I don't THINK it will be possible to re-route the straps the way you have said, but I will have a look tomorrow and let you know 👍
@@joinmeoutdoors Thank you. Or at least if the upper compression straps can be pulled without affecting the lower part running next to the side pockets. Then it will be like other ultralight backpacks, where compression straps are available only above the side pockets. Maybe that will be sufficient. Really thinking about this backpack :)
@@mako5708 I've just had a look, and the compression strap on each side cannot be threaded differently in order to avoid compressing the side pocket. Each side has one strap that runs from the top of the bag to the bottom. There is one adjustor buckle at the top, and one at the bottom, so if you needed to, you could loosen the adjustor at the bottom, use something (e.g. a bottle) from the side pocket, then tighten the strap again afterwards. One thing I like about this pack is all the compression and tidy straps actually, but I do see your concern.
Where do you see that bladder being offered along with the exos ?
It's on the official Osprey website (ospreyEurope.com)if you purchase at full RRP.
Which is the best size for a load of 35 lb. Running the “fan dance” this summer
The Exos 48 is technically rated to a max load of 30 lbs, and the Exos 58 to 35 lbs. That said, I have loaded my Exos 48 up with more weight than that (even a bit over 18 kg/40 lbs I think). Though I can't recommend overloading, if it's only occasional, I daresay it would take it.
@@joinmeoutdoors thank for fast response. I’m on way to go outdoors to have look if they have them in stock
@@Adywebb123 Good luck! Don't forget that Go Outdoors do price matching 👍
Can a large smartphone 6,7" fit in the side pockets on the hip belt?
HI Alexey. I found a box that's 6.5" long and just under 3/4" thick. I was able to insert it into the pocket and get 3" of it down into the pocket. 6.7" MIGHT go in with a bit of stretching, but I can't quite confirm that I'm afraid. I hope this helps a little bit. Perhaps you could try one in a store, or order the bag and return it if your phone does not fit?
Osprey's design team, at least for the Exos series, seems to be a combination of geniuses and what have to be some of the stupidest people alive on the planet.
Every 4 years there's an update to this model(I've had all 3 previous generations in different sizes-5 total), and every time there are marked improvements accompanied by inexplicable changes that degrade the packs to the extent that it seems intentional, while simultaneously making you wonder if they even have an actual backpacker on their staff.
This time they did away with the eminently practical "over/under" compression straps, which also appears to be true for many other models' most recent iterations.
On the Exos, they now have them routed to the rear of the hipbelt pockets, too.
Way to go Osprey..again😒
You have just highlighted my main "What were you thinking?" observation here. Those straps connected to the hip belts are odd for at least two reasons: 1. Why do I want my bag compression needs to interfere with my hip belts? And 2. When would I ever need to adjust bag compression from the bottom? I get that this arrangement makes them removable, which could be useful (?), but attaching a clip to the lower end of the strap so that you could anchor it to the base of the bag (or just above the side pocket, ideally) would have been more user-friendly. I appreciate your rant and am a bit confused as to why this bag isn't absolutely perfect after four iterations! Thanks for your thoughts! 👍
@@joinmeoutdoors Yeah, if I were shopping for a similar pack today, I'd be eyeing the Gregory Focal.
I've stuck with the Exos because it's always fit like it was custom made for me. The 2018 version is also the most comfortable of any pack I've ever worn.
Osprey always frustrates the crap out of me with their design and material choices for this model, though.
@@samfordman I'm glad the 2018 model is working for you. I'm enjoying my 2022 Exos, despite a small number of minor irritations. Those straps don't actually anger me in use, but my designer "Hulk" wants to break out if I think about them too much 😂 Their materials and warranty are worth a lot, and since the 2022 Exos has the hip belt pockets, I'm happy 👌
Personally I prefer having the straps go over rather than under as you can secure your bottle better so it's.nit moving around causing an imbalance of weight
I weight 202 pounds. I wonder if they will give me TWO hydration bladders? ;) :P
You could always ask!
The exos sucks
I'm sorry you feel that way, Jim!