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@@cbasted339 the Thompson was obsolete by the 1930's. 10mm in a smg is uncontrol able and unnecessary for its expected use. The Thompson is nowhere near as compact as a new smg needs to be, its too complex, heavy, handling is award, controls suck, receiver is eh, sights are bad, magazines are eh. Why would anyone want a smg that doesn't do anything well.
Kind of surprised they wouldn't go with either 1). The P90, due to its size and soft armor penetration capability, or 2). An SBR M4, due to it's higher power, availability of ammo, and a lot already existing with longer barrels. Seems wierd they would go with something like the APC9K.
Guns in Switzerland are literally so inexpensive to buy lol you can get a new suppressed full auto mp5 for like 2 grand here in the states it costs about 20 times more and you have to pay $200 on top of it all.
@@hansmuster9696 Just get the paper work done and walk into a gun shop? Like I bought my GHM9 (semiauto but in the shop they got also AK's, AR's, APC's, SIG's, HK's, FN's and so on) directly in Thun at B&T. They even let me testfire it with a suppressor on it (yes they well tried to sell it, but I could resist). Full autos are not that hard and not especially expensive to get here. They're actually forbidden weapons, what means you just need different papers ;) An APC is roughly about CHF 3500.- depending on the lower receiver (Glock or B&T mags), barrel length and stock as the main options.
you forgot a main reason (atleast in my opinion) why police forces make heavy use of submachineguns. Pistol rounds even out of a rifle length barrel tends to over penetrate alot less then a rifle or intermediate round and when most instances your looking at areas with potential civilian casualties (such as in a apartment complex or a hostage situation) you really need to limit that as much as possible
In industrial building clearing exercises during the 90s the usa found that an average infantry company woulf suffer 50 to 60 percent casualties due to friendly fire... Use an smg.. also train your soldiers to fire whilst prone.. which precludes this weapons use...
Lemme get this straight. The army likes minimizing logistical weight. But they bought a SMG, which is inferior to a SBR 5.56, and it uses glock magazines but, they passed on the glock pistol in favor of a Sig pistol? K.
@@BonziBUDDY berettas are better just heavier sigs are better just heavier my god even chinese sevice pistol is better. Glock = stolen tech lol. Cz plastics
The MP5 is also iconic because of the Iranian Embassy Siege in London in 1980. It was one of the first big incidents to ever be shown live on the national news, and the SAS were using MP5's when they went in after they started shooting hostages.
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3:20 Just a small correction: the suits aren’t “made entirely” of armor. They have pocket for plates in the vital areas, leaving the limbs and non-vital parts of the torso exposed like most other armors on the market. Just thought I’d clear that up for those wondering how they could make a practical suit jacket of all armor.
@@The_Lone_Outlaw it's about a black guy who was running for city office and Midway in his speech he said "the rent is too damn high" there's a meme about it
they should just get the Uzi Pro it's also closed bolt & most likely blowback as the APC9K IWI even has videos of it being used to protect VIPs, mud test, etc Great for VIPs just like the original Uzi, in that one famous photo
The M3 was much cheaper to manufacture than the Tommy . In fact if you ever shot one, the bolt looks like an engine's piston. Its a bit heavy but fun to shoot and easy to shoot and keep on target. It was primarily issued to troops who's job wasn't to carry a rifle. (Think cook or tank crew) My father was issued one as part of an M4 crew, but after the war in occupied Germany he was issued an M1 until he rotated back home.
Dude, you went from the Luger with a snail mag right to the Tommy Gun - what about the MP-18, the Lanchester, the Sterling, the Sten, the Owen, the PPsh-41, MP-38, MP-40, Beretta Mod 38?
One thing that you really forgot to talk about, was the risk of overpenetration with a 5.56. If you see a hostile in a crowd, you wanna shoot him and not the 2 civilians standing behind him. Or if your raiding a home and you miss your shot, you don't wanna hit the neighbor.
Name Surname I swear to god they confirmed they are getting rid of all tanks and plan to get 12k less members in the next 10 years. They are going to limit artillery and the amount of planes as well as the F35 squadron will go down from 16 to 10. Wonder how this will affect the MEU when they have to do invasions. Edit: They say it is for to be better prepared for Island hopping in a Chinese War but from what I remember M4 Sherman’s were pretty effective on Iwo Jima but the Abrams is twice the size. Also I don’t understand why they are limiting AAVs if they want to be amphibious. Let’s just hope this works out.
@Optic64654 that's great and believe me nobody wants a war with the PLA, but if the CCP feels they are losing control, they might pull a Hitler and start throwing their weight around in Africa, Indian Ocean, and the China Sea. If that happens, island fighting will be the name of the game to keep the PLA contained.
A 9mm bullet is twice as heavy as a 5.56mm bullet. It also is moving at about 1/3 the speed so it will penetrate through walls much further than a 556 round. The average weight of the 556 is around 62 grains and moving at around 2300-3000 feet per second depending on barrel length. Leight fast moving projectiles like the 556 tend to fragment when they hit barriers. Pistol rounds that are heavier and slow moving tend to punch through walls easier and keep their momentum. Most law enforcement agencies are ditching SMG's in favor of ar's because the 556 doesnt tend to punch through multiple walls like pistol rounds and has much better terminal balistics.
@@MtnPeakEnduro You should watch the Tactical Rifleman video on it... sure the 9mm may penetrate a bit more but that means a cleaner wound which is easier to deal with instead of it fragmenting inside someone which is going to be hellish to deal with medically speaking. Also www.gunsamerica.com/digest/ar-home-defense-clay-drywall-raw-meat-myth-busted/ according to these tests yes it does begin to start fragmenting but those fragments still punch through and that means way more chances of harming someone especially cause then you have to dig out that shrapnel.
@@mr.angryman3599 A lot more goes into bad officers then just inadequate training. Also quit with the whole anti-LEO bullshit, there's bad officers but you get shitty people with Any job. I want you to name me 1 career where there isn't a single person that isn't a shitty human being.
I would go with the Uzi Pro it's also closed bolt & most likely blowback as the APC9K IWI even has videos of it being used to protect VIPs, mud test, etc so it's great for VIPs just like the original Uzi, in that one famous photo
@@lukes.1333 okay than, also the reason why i said that is because that is what the uzi pro was made for it's stated on their website and show cased in there videos like i mentioned
How to make a European gun: 1. Copy an AR18 or AK47 action. 2. Change the controls a little bit. 3. Make it a polymer gun like the AR15. 4. Set the price to many levels above the original gun. 5. ??? 6. Profit.
The mp5 won’t be beat in popularity, but it’s already beaten in reliability, stopping power, armor penetration, etc. by weapons like the P90, uzi, mp9, ump, and even more.
I have used the full size B&T APC9 a few times and the MP5 side by side, MP5 is a nice one to shoot. But when u compare it to the APC, the APC is so much nicer to shoot and handle. And it comes standard with a good Aimpoint Red Dot. Its a great submachine gun to replace the MP5
I think smg’s will still stick around. It’s just the old philosophy of “the right tool for the job” When war was done with melee combat, most soldiers carried a pole arm of some kind and a sword or short sword as their back up weapon. The sword was for close quarters mostly, not a battle field. Same as the smg vs an AR. An AR would suck in tight hallways compared to an smg. But the smg would suck in the open for worse range and accuracy
with smgs on the way out, i seriously doubt this getting fully adopted. the ump in 45acp will do the job just fine and the mp5 is almost forever relavent. the fn p90 and compact rifles chambered in 556 will eventually phase out sub machine guns for primary service but law enforcement and other sections within the military will still use them. btw there exists mp5s with rails. mp5 is here to stay until somehow we either develop past the need for firearms or go full startrek where energy weapons will be our self defense tools
@@Matevoz72 moderm body armor no. even the mp7 was developed for countering russian cloth armor. they arent effective against hard armor. against unarmored in a hostage situation id still take an mp5 or ump over something that could over penetrate. this is where smgs will still have a home. of course negotiation and police snipers be the first choice there. SMGs are on the way out but will not be truly obsolete.
"The APC is better than the MP5 because the MP5 has a slower reload time." MP5 Reload time: HK Slap and you're done APC Reload time: Generic M4 style reload
@@Chatter76 it can take glock mags, which gives the option for 15, 17, 19, 21, 27, 33, and 40 round mags as well as 50 and 100 round drums. Option are dope
I'm old enough to have seen the M3A1 in service while I was on active duty--and I've fired a magazine through one, was armorer-trained on the type, and during the 1990's my arms room had 70 of them in stock. I do have limited range fire experience with the MP-5 (but not in combat!) and a few other submachine guns as well. Back in 1938 the US Army wanted a weapon to replace the pistol, the submachine gun, and for some non-riflemen the rifle as well--in 1941 this became the M1 Carbine, a 5.5 pound weapon using a different cartridge from the M1 Rifle and the BAR (aka the Automatic Rifle, M1918A2). During World War Two some 5.5 million M1 Rifles were made and more than 6 million M1 Carbines were produced. By the Korean conflict the M2 Carbine (select-fire) had displaced the submachine gun in the US Army except for armored fighting vehicle equipment and for some special forces applications. Declaring that the M14 Rifle was the replacement for the M1 Rifle, M2 Carbine, M3 Submachine Gun and the BAR didn't make it so--and then there was the M16. Initially the AR-15 was regarded with awe bordering on worshiping magic--the Viet Cong liked them a lot when they could steal them. However, the initial mass-produced M16 quickly got a reputation for being more dangerous to the American rifleman than to the enemy--and Stoner was screaming "SABOTAGE!" What does this have to do with the Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) and the submachine gun in that role? The M16 was a credible replacement for infantry submachine guns and the M1/M2 Carbine, and most riflemen really didn't need the "full bore" M14 rifle and 7.62mm NATO cartridge. There was another issue--within 300 meters the M16-armed rifleman had a higher hit probability--beyond 400 meters most riflemen couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with any rifle, even when they could clearly see their target. Submachine guns on rock-n-roll were great within 25 meters, but beyond 50 meters their pistol bullet ballistics were poor even on semiauto--that's why the M1 Carbine was such a WW2 hit. Much of NATO was arming second line troops with cheap submachine guns instead of expensive rifles because the SMG was easier to carry and CHEAP--I did mention SMGs were cheap, didn't I? Besides, the old standard was issuing obsolete bolt action rifles and a few cartridges to second line troops--the SMG could burp out a full magazine with bullets labeled "to any soldier" which was more annoying to enemy raiders than a few single shots that missed. NATO went into panic mode when widespread issue of body armor happened in the Warsaw Pact armies and were in the middle of swapping out to the5.56mm NATO when they put out the PDW requirements: cheap (at least cheaper than their 5.56mm service rifle), compact (more compact than their 5.56mm service rifle), light weight, adequate performance within 150 meters, easy to use, and able to defeat soft body armor. The US began using the M4 Carbine in the 1990's--had been using "submachine gun" editions of the AR-15 since the early 1960's with barrels as short as 10 inches. The M4 can be used by any rifleman trained on the M16 family, uses standard magazines and ammunition, most parts interchange between the M4 and M16, and the M4 has better ballistics than any of the PDW cartridges--plus the PDW turned out to be twice as expensive as the M4 and was nearly the same weight--though the various PDWs are more compact. Unless there was a reason why the M4 was unsuitable, the M4 performed better than the PDW--and could a conventional pistol work when there wasn't room enough for the M4? Britain's IW family has had a troubled past, but its bullpup design made it more compact--and no PDW can touch the L85 in the accuracy department. The PDW still has a role in VIP protection and some special forces applications. Arming vehicle crews--the M1 Carbine never did replace all of the pistols in the US Army--Military Police, tank crews and air crews all kept their pistols. Sometimes there's no room for a shoulder weapon.
I mean, lets face it, even with smgs most firing done with small arms in combat is semiautomatic. The full auto is usually just to quickly suppress when ambushed, but most firing will be done semi automatic so a super fast fire rate isn't a huge issue. How reliable, light, and compact the weapon is will be of far greater importance
James Rauch fair point, and if your going to suppress someone might as well really suppress someone, though they’ll only be surppressed for about .75 seconds with that mag size
The Military should have gone with the full-auto Stribog SP9A3 for literally 25% of the cost of the B&T APC9K. I like B&T, but at military scales of purchasing, the cost difference seems ridiculous and unwarranted given how incredibly controllable and reliable the Stribog is in full-auto mode. My 2 cents...
US Army: Let's give SIG a huge contract for the M17 Sig: Also makes the MPX, an excellent PDW with the manual-of-arms of an M4 and parts compatibility US Army: buys a B&T MP5 ripoff that uses glock mags
That's definitly an oversight, saying the Thompson changed the world instead of the impact the MP 18 had at the end of WW1 with the development of Stormtrooper assault tactics is outrageous
@@GabeNsApostle The problem is this channel, not Americans in general. Check out Forgotten Weapons if you care about accurate history of small arms development. th-cam.com/users/ForgottenWeapons
my dad was in the 77th div 306 FA in 1942 he was a FO, he carried a Thompson ,and a 1911 ,said he tried a grease gun , but keep the Thompson. said it was a great jungle warfare weapon, her was the lead FO at hacksaw ridge.
This is an odd choice but you do you army. I'm still a Vector fan, heard great things about the MP7 but I have as much of a chance of firing one of those let alone owning one as I do a FAMAS here.
They have tried to do this so many times, just leave the mp5 alone it’s really good and does it’s job. And if they really want something a bit more modern and smaller go with the mp5k with some picitiny rails
i feel like the pdw idea still has merit for the military today. something small but high velocity and hopefully armor piercing on some level that you can outfit supply guys, vehicle crews and other rear echelon units with to protect themselves in close combat situations. the mp7 and p90 for example seems like an excellent weapon to this day and ammunition has improved since its inception. i suppose now that the 6.8 big boy M5 is being adopted, compact 5.56 carbines could fill the roll as well lol.
What the hell was in the brief for this? "We need a 9mm SMG with extreme rate of fire, but a tiny mag capacity, must be reliable and available to be mass produced, but lets buy it from a non-fire arms company" Can anyone else smell the "doomed to fail" smell from here?
why arent smgs that feed from the grip like a pistol a thing? when you only have a 4 inch barrel getting an extra 2 for the same overall length would be pretty big would it not?
you mean an UZI? yeah, they've existed for while now. Summary on why they didn't catch on, because then you have 2 options. Either: 1-you gotta move the entire trigger group back, which also moves the moving mass back, to on top of your hand, making it less accurate. or 2-you gotta add parts for it to work, which makes it more complex, which makes it more prone to malfunction. And on top of that it is also more awkward, and therefore takes more time to reload. Do note pistols are semiautomatic and the slide acts as the moving part too because their primary function is to be as small as possible. Smgs have to actually be accurate while shooting in full auto. And an UZI most certainly isn't. It's actually a tad of a piece of shit despite how iconic it is. Do note that pistol trigger groups are
The biggest thing that put the SMG out of general service was the automatic carbine doing its job better. M14 and later the M16 hit harder at longer range. Then the M4 Carbine came out and it was pretty much game over. Sure, the SpecOps boys would occasionally use MP5's due to their portability, but the M4 was just as portable in most cases. The fundamental issue with the SMG is that it uses a pistol round instead of a rifle round. While good against unarmored targets, it's just not going to be effective in the field of battle as a general issue weapon. The APC9K is basically a modern Uzi, more of a machine pistol than an SMG. It has a second handle for accuracy's sake, because trying to one-hand an auto-pistol is... not practical. But let's face it, the reason it is being used in the role for protection detail is that it can be carried under a suit coat and not 'show' very easily, meaning they can get away with taking it into places that would frown on M4 Carbines out. And in that role, you really aren't expecting to be going up against body armor, so it *should* be effective. Ironically, these very features also make it quite attractive to the criminal community, just like the 'Tommy Gun' was to the mafia. Can't wait until some short-sighted quartermaster 'loses' a couple of these and they make the news in some drug heist.
ArbiterX My question is why are we looking at Submachine-gun as opposed to a Carbine like the MK18, AKS-74U, G36C, or L22A1? My guess is weight, size and recoil since a Submachine gun will usually be lighter and smaller than a rifle and a 9mm, 5.7 or 4.6 will be lighter and smaller(meaning more ammo or more space for other stuff) and have lower recoil, making them easier to shoot, especially for someone whose main task is not to fight the enemy with a rifle. The primary issue I have is that SMGs lack the range and penetrating power of a rifle round. Yes, there are AP rounds for pistols, but they won’t do crap against a steel or composite armor plate that can stop full power rifle rounds.
Quicker Cqc, high fire rate sudden suppression at close range, pistol rounds will always be easier to suppress noise, low recoil more rounds on target, weight/size, less over pen if in close to other vip's (traitor guard scenario), and last but not least....armor never covers everything (at least not yet...)
Like he said maybe it's only used for vip protection (i.e bodyguards wearing suits) so even sbr m4 will still too big with its fixed stock. And as far as i know there isn't a reliable and proven folding stock for AR platform.
@@tidusyukimura8679 its hard to have a folding stock AR 15 because (on most AR's) that's where the recoil spring is, so when it comes to being compact yeah it'll always be a turn towards an SMG or other platform
@@tylerberg4832 Your right, it's sufficient for most jobs involving a firearm, but for the military's purposes, is it the 5.56 or 10mm? Arguably better, more capable rounds that can fit into the same sized package?
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And god help you if "you" set off a hypervelocity round crack in a enclosed space filled with vip's... on a ship, tight buildings, hallways Jeez my ears HURT just thinking about that concussion...never enough ear protection
@@DragoonZeroAlpha Isn't 9mm, .40S&W, and most bottlenecked pistol cartridges(7.62 Tokarev, 5.7 FN for example) a Supersonic round? If they were concerned about a supersonic crack why not issue .45 ACP or Sub-sonic 9mm?
@@MPdude237 ah. I was answering the question of platforms above and then comparing "Rifle rounds" to "pistol rounds" the pressure spike/sound is much more.... Def agree with you however, if you already have 9mm in logistics why not just make the bullet heavier and slower. Also lower pressure means you need less materials to build gun=smaller/lighter
It was a detachable holster on the Luger. The early sub machine guns were made for air craft as you could carry more than rifle ammunition and weighed less.
@@Dycewyfe it's a good one, too. custom, black with a red braid, with a deep blue locally-sourced feather ('local' as in 'from my backyard after a good shot').
Not something I want admit out load mate.... unless I work in the mafia with a grease gun/tommy at my back. That’s only time when fedora is awesome to me, nowadays it’s associated with edgy neckbeard virgin fedora Tipping atheists, which is not cool, god I wish the era of the mafia return
@@billwilson7841 "the perosa was awkward to shoot" so was the mp 18 "had very limited numbers produced," citation needed And none of this changes the fact the villlar Perosa came first but whatever
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Hi, can you do one video on marine corps getting rid of all tanks that they have
@@rhythmray7429 They are getting rid of their tanks?
@@HeLpEr4u083 yupp. all the abrams
@@rhythmray7429 The best tank in the world and variants, i do not understand.
B and t made guns before this my friend long before
0:30 “In this video we’ll go over everything we need to know about the army’s new sub machine gun as well as *[REDACTED]* with the Thompson”
The Japanese gave them mechs?
Glitch in the matrix. That's when they change something.
SCP classified Information😂
So am not the only one who saw the [REDACTED] well good to know!
Oh god 666 likes
0:33 dude my heart sunk.. it thought my graphics card was failing
0:35
@@kingdomcome7954 ?
@@yuh_boi77 just wanted to be a Karen.
Me too
Same here man!
0:33 ,that night when your watching tv and its raining
gmaster096 video games I am glad it was not just me.
Luis Maiocchi same
Damn dude that hit oddly close
and i thought it was just my net having a hiccup.
I rewound the video 3 times before scrolling down to this comment. :P
The APC9K would be the perfect weapon for tankers.
Which was the idea behind the MP7. Small and easily stowed/carried by vehicle crew.
Personally I think they should have chose a modern adaptation Thompson chambered in 10mm
@@cbasted339 that is the dumbest thing I’ve read all week
@@sliceofcheese3890 on god
@@cbasted339 the Thompson was obsolete by the 1930's. 10mm in a smg is uncontrol able and unnecessary for its expected use. The Thompson is nowhere near as compact as a new smg needs to be, its too complex, heavy, handling is award, controls suck, receiver is eh, sights are bad, magazines are eh. Why would anyone want a smg that doesn't do anything well.
*A new challenger has appeared!*
MP5: "Heh cute"
**ACP9 walks into a cave**
**Sees a pile of UMPs, Scorpions, MP7s, etc**
MP5, shrouded in the darkness: _"Ah yes, fresh meat."_
@@SkyNinja759 UZI: *Records with a camera* Kids these days lololol.
Nobody:
SCP articles when they list actually important information: 0:33
Thats funny
gay
Further confirmation that it's happening.
Lmao
@@hikaru_7027 Ok mommie
2:18
“Is it better than the MP5?”
*proceeds to show an MP7*
Lmao
"Less awkward reload"
No one ever would dislike slapping that charging handle.
That’s the best part
One of the few complaints with the MP5 is the manual of arms for reloads. It’s too slow (no LRBH)
I can tell that the bois in the armory hate yall
And it doesn't like optics, rails and reloading at the same time.
gotta dye looking cool
Me: bumps my funny bone
My entire nervous system: 0:34
Kind of surprised they wouldn't go with either 1). The P90, due to its size and soft armor penetration capability, or 2). An SBR M4, due to it's higher power, availability of ammo, and a lot already existing with longer barrels. Seems wierd they would go with something like the APC9K.
Crony capitalism and kickbacks
"Gee, these german guns are nice and all, but I feel like they could be... more expensive." "Say no more! Here, Swiss guns!"
UnclePutte sig👎🏽
Guns in Switzerland are literally so inexpensive to buy lol you can get a new suppressed full auto mp5 for like 2 grand here in the states it costs about 20 times more and you have to pay $200 on top of it all.
FUBBA show me where you can get a full auto mp5 in switzerland...
APC9 is cheaper than the MP5. Not to mention better... Recoils the same but is lighter and is far more modular and ergonomic
@@hansmuster9696 Just get the paper work done and walk into a gun shop?
Like I bought my GHM9 (semiauto but in the shop they got also AK's, AR's, APC's, SIG's, HK's, FN's and so on) directly in Thun at B&T. They even let me testfire it with a suppressor on it (yes they well tried to sell it, but I could resist).
Full autos are not that hard and not especially expensive to get here. They're actually forbidden weapons, what means you just need different papers ;)
An APC is roughly about CHF 3500.- depending on the lower receiver (Glock or B&T mags), barrel length and stock as the main options.
" As well as the *random siezure* with the thompson."
Edit: Thanks for the likes, first time I've broken 1K
I've even reopened the video and replayed this part to make sure, it wasn't my phone
Switched from my Ethernet to my WiFi and relaunched my browser, glad it wasn't just me.
I’ve restarted the Big Bang and even entered a new dimension I don’t think it’s my phone either
I have gotten 6 new phones three new tablets restarted life and checked my wifi connection to make sure it wasn't my phone
Pedro H. I raided apple and restarted all their products and it’s not just my phone!
you forgot a main reason (atleast in my opinion) why police forces make heavy use of submachineguns. Pistol rounds even out of a rifle length barrel tends to over penetrate alot less then a rifle or intermediate round and when most instances your looking at areas with potential civilian casualties (such as in a apartment complex or a hostage situation) you really need to limit that as much as possible
you're 100% right thanks for the added info, I thought I included that but it must have slipped my mind when I was writing the script.
In industrial building clearing exercises during the 90s the usa found that an average infantry company woulf suffer 50 to 60 percent casualties due to friendly fire...
Use an smg.. also train your soldiers to fire whilst prone.. which precludes this weapons use...
But almost all swat teams use a short AR with 556 variant. Even patrol cars have those now
"TIRED and true?" Or: "tried and true?"
Lemme get this straight. The army likes minimizing logistical weight. But they bought a SMG, which is inferior to a SBR 5.56, and it uses glock magazines but, they passed on the glock pistol in favor of a Sig pistol? K.
glocks are kind of shitty and flimsy, i guess they wanted to balance out having an inferior smg by replacing a crap pistol with an actual good one
BonziBUDDY the glock is only widely regarded as the most reliable pistol you can get
@@BonziBUDDY *laughs in majority of law enforcement and special forces*
Military procurement is something ill never really understand.
@@BonziBUDDY berettas are better just heavier sigs are better just heavier my god even chinese sevice pistol is better. Glock = stolen tech lol. Cz plastics
The MP5 is also iconic because of the Iranian Embassy Siege in London in 1980. It was one of the first big incidents to ever be shown live on the national news, and the SAS were using MP5's when they went in after they started shooting hostages.
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0:19 nothing more revolting to see than an mp5 with a low cap mag
She said 20 rounds is enough
God it looks horrible
@@greytheguitarguy2561 Yeah it looks like a California gun.
@@myusername3689 it looks flaccid
EWWWW
3:20 Just a small correction: the suits aren’t “made entirely” of armor. They have pocket for plates in the vital areas, leaving the limbs and non-vital parts of the torso exposed like most other armors on the market. Just thought I’d clear that up for those wondering how they could make a practical suit jacket of all armor.
I've seen jackets that are soft armor all over though.
"The rate of fire on this weapon is too damn high."
I get that reference
"I understood that reference."
“I don’t understand that reference.”
“Or that one either.”
“Someone please explain the reference to me.”
“Please.”
“And thank you.”
@@The_Lone_Outlaw it's about a black guy who was running for city office and Midway in his speech he said "the rent is too damn high" there's a meme about it
@@The_Lone_Outlaw my bad he was running for governor in New York
It's only been purchased in small numbers for personal security detachments. So basically it's in trials and not officially adopted.
Ulfhedinn I'm praying to God that the court would allow the MP5's to be open for purchase.
James Booth woah. No way will the democrats allow such an “assault weapon” to roam the streets!
they should just get the Uzi Pro
it's also closed bolt & most likely blowback as the APC9K
IWI even has videos of it being used to protect VIPs, mud test, etc
Great for VIPs just like the original Uzi, in that one famous photo
It is officially adopted as the sub-machine gun. It is not, however, a full program of record.
@@James-qn3wi Never gonna happen. You can buy semi-auto SBR MP5's straight from H&K these days though.
2:17 you know that’s an MP7 right?
i'm not crazy then! I was looking at this and was like wait a minute isn't this a mp7?
I was here to say that 👍
I was wondering where the magizene well was
👍🏻
James Coombs bruh
The M3 was much cheaper to manufacture than the Tommy . In fact if you ever shot one, the bolt looks like an engine's piston. Its a bit heavy but fun to shoot and easy to shoot and keep on target.
It was primarily issued to troops who's job wasn't to carry a rifle. (Think cook or tank crew) My father was issued one as part of an M4 crew, but after the war in occupied Germany he was issued an M1 until he rotated back home.
The Grease gun actually saw service up into the Gulf War. It was issued to an engineer regiment, can't remember which one.
M1 Abrams tank crews carried them as late as the Balkans.
0:33 you ok there bud?
I sneezed real hard at that frame right there and it glitched through the matrix. also my computer apparently struggles to render 4K
Task & Purpose th-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/w-d-xo.html this video helps a lot on how to fix that problem
0:34 when you’re doing online classes and the kid with bad internet glitches out
Dude, you went from the Luger with a snail mag right to the Tommy Gun - what about the MP-18, the Lanchester, the Sterling, the Sten, the Owen, the PPsh-41, MP-38, MP-40, Beretta Mod 38?
there's only so much time for one submachine gun video didn't want the runtime to be 30 min ! I'll tag those in another video
& the m1918 Beretta
There more to the list you have you'll have to expand Abit.
And PPS-43 when it comes to soviet submachine guns
One thing that you really forgot to talk about, was the risk of overpenetration with a 5.56. If you see a hostile in a crowd, you wanna shoot him and not the 2 civilians standing behind him. Or if your raiding a home and you miss your shot, you don't wanna hit the neighbor.
"APC9K is the best SMG!"
Me: *Laughs in MP5 with M203*
"Very well, Dr. Freeman."
Anything on the fact that THE MARINES WILL NO LONGER HAVE TANKS!!!
is that real? that doesnt make any sence
Name Surname I swear to god they confirmed they are getting rid of all tanks and plan to get 12k less members in the next 10 years. They are going to limit artillery and the amount of planes as well as the F35 squadron will go down from 16 to 10. Wonder how this will affect the MEU when they have to do invasions.
Edit: They say it is for to be better prepared for Island hopping in a Chinese War but from what I remember M4 Sherman’s were pretty effective on Iwo Jima but the Abrams is twice the size. Also I don’t understand why they are limiting AAVs if they want to be amphibious. Let’s just hope this works out.
It's because we're focusing more on the Pacific (China) and quick island hopping tactics. Plus tank roles will likely be filled by UGVs.
Who’s bright idea is that?
@Optic64654 that's great and believe me nobody wants a war with the PLA, but if the CCP feels they are losing control, they might pull a Hitler and start throwing their weight around in Africa, Indian Ocean, and the China Sea. If that happens, island fighting will be the name of the game to keep the PLA contained.
I carried an MP5 for over 20 years of my service. An excellent tool for CQC. Accurate and smooth.
You forgot that police also prefer SMGs since they usually have to worry about civilians so they don't want bullets over penetrating their targets.
A 9mm bullet is twice as heavy as a 5.56mm bullet. It also is moving at about 1/3 the speed so it will penetrate through walls much further than a 556 round. The average weight of the 556 is around 62 grains and moving at around 2300-3000 feet per second depending on barrel length. Leight fast moving projectiles like the 556 tend to fragment when they hit barriers. Pistol rounds that are heavier and slow moving tend to punch through walls easier and keep their momentum. Most law enforcement agencies are ditching SMG's in favor of ar's because the 556 doesnt tend to punch through multiple walls like pistol rounds and has much better terminal balistics.
@@MtnPeakEnduro You should watch the Tactical Rifleman video on it... sure the 9mm may penetrate a bit more but that means a cleaner wound which is easier to deal with instead of it fragmenting inside someone which is going to be hellish to deal with medically speaking. Also www.gunsamerica.com/digest/ar-home-defense-clay-drywall-raw-meat-myth-busted/ according to these tests yes it does begin to start fragmenting but those fragments still punch through and that means way more chances of harming someone especially cause then you have to dig out that shrapnel.
9mm penetrates more than 5.56. Especially with ball ammo.
Lmao the police don't need smgs they need more training
@@mr.angryman3599 A lot more goes into bad officers then just inadequate training. Also quit with the whole anti-LEO bullshit, there's bad officers but you get shitty people with Any job. I want you to name me 1 career where there isn't a single person that isn't a shitty human being.
MP7 and F90 can penetrate more body armor. I don't know what else to expect from a weapon in this role.
Logistical ease. No Pistols in that caliber
@@rumo893 The FN five-seven uses the same ammo as the p90 and a 4.6x30mm pistol can be made also lol.
Johnny Rainbow i think you didnt know fn five seven fire the same round as p90
BruhBruh 149 there is no FN Five-Seven 😉 never made
@@rumo893 do I have to point out the 20 or so countries that use it?
Another challenger appears and the MP5 gets ready to scratch another line on the wall.
Basically it's UMP's unexpected sequel (or spiritual successor).
The gun at 2:14 is an MP7.
Also I think that the SigSauer MPX would have been a better choice
maybe they just don't like it to depend on a company too much
I would go with the Uzi Pro
it's also closed bolt & most likely blowback as the APC9K
IWI even has videos of it being used to protect VIPs, mud test, etc
so it's great for VIPs just like the original Uzi, in that one famous photo
@@lukes.1333 no because they dont sell the military version of the Uzi Pro to civilians?
@@lukes.1333 wait, how did you get your hands on the military version of the Uzi Pro?
@@lukes.1333 okay than, also the reason why i said that is because that is what the uzi pro was made for it's stated on their website and show cased in there videos like i mentioned
I'll never give up on the mp5. Old souls live in peace. Hahaha.
0:34 Get WiFi anywhere you go moment
lol boingo moment
I just learned so much, so quick, it was like a submachine gun burst of knowledge to my brain.
How to make an american gun:
Step 1: Take a gun from anywhere in the world
Step 2: Slap an armalite reciever on it and double the pricetag
How to make a European gun:
1. Copy an AR18 or AK47 action.
2. Change the controls a little bit.
3. Make it a polymer gun like the AR15.
4. Set the price to many levels above the original gun.
5. ???
6. Profit.
@@johncarl5505 I feel like that one hit you a little too hard.
if buying 350 to 1,350,Im not sure it's officially being adopted. That's a light order.
Imagine trying to beat the MP-5 *Laughs in Heckler and Koch*
Even H & K have tried to beat it with the MP7.
Someone was thrown money to switch them all over. That's my theory.
The mp5 won’t be beat in popularity, but it’s already beaten in reliability, stopping power, armor penetration, etc. by weapons like the P90, uzi, mp9, ump, and even more.
Chuckles in fabrique national
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Tini tiny ump
Got to love how that troop is resting his mag on that object while firing.
The thing looks like someone mixed a Bren 805 with a UMP. Just looking at the lower, I thought that CZ had brought out another SMG.
Baby of ump n mp5k
ignoring the stock and the weird magazine, it legit looks like a UMP
At first I thought it was an airsoft build. Looks strange.
It looks like an inbred c96 and an inbred Glock had a kid, which then killed and is wearing the skin of an MP5K.
@@Shaun_Jones With some box like design.
The whole B&T catalogue looks like that.
B&T makes a lot of polymer guns
yeah i reminded me of the ARP9
It's ugly as sin
How to flex in class
I have the MP3
I have the MP4
Quiet kid. I have the MP5
Bruh I have the MP7
I have used the full size B&T APC9 a few times and the MP5 side by side, MP5 is a nice one to shoot.
But when u compare it to the APC, the APC is so much nicer to shoot and handle. And it comes standard with a good Aimpoint Red Dot.
Its a great submachine gun to replace the MP5
I think smg’s will still stick around. It’s just the old philosophy of “the right tool for the job”
When war was done with melee combat, most soldiers carried a pole arm of some kind and a sword or short sword as their back up weapon. The sword was for close quarters mostly, not a battle field. Same as the smg vs an AR. An AR would suck in tight hallways compared to an smg. But the smg would suck in the open for worse range and accuracy
Problem there is how much soldiers are already carrying, so adding a SMG to the mix along with its ammo will break soldiers back.
The equivalent to short sword is the pistol not the smg
with smgs on the way out, i seriously doubt this getting fully adopted. the ump in 45acp will do the job just fine and the mp5 is almost forever relavent. the fn p90 and compact rifles chambered in 556 will eventually phase out sub machine guns for primary service but law enforcement and other sections within the military will still use them. btw there exists mp5s with rails. mp5 is here to stay until somehow we either develop past the need for firearms or go full startrek where energy weapons will be our self defense tools
Glad you mentioned the P90; I thought that was supposed to fill this role and still be small, light and able to punch through body armor?
@@Jungstertag You know... MP7...
Loschain there’s honestly no reason for smgs anymore, they are much bigger than a pistol but they can’t even go through body armor
@@Matevoz72 moderm body armor no. even the mp7 was developed for countering russian cloth armor. they arent effective against hard armor. against unarmored in a hostage situation id still take an mp5 or ump over something that could over penetrate. this is where smgs will still have a home. of course negotiation and police snipers be the first choice there. SMGs are on the way out but will not be truly obsolete.
Loschain yeah that’s true, they are great in situations where the enemies don’t have armor
"The APC is better than the MP5 because the MP5 has a slower reload time."
MP5 Reload time: HK Slap and you're done
APC Reload time: Generic M4 style reload
MP5s take conventional mags too wtf
@@ericolsen5592 apc takes glock mags
I thought he was going to comment on the lack of a last round bolt hold open on the MP5, but he just talked about the bolt release itself.
Last round bolt hold open is a big deal, but mp5 has bigger mags. I still think the mp5 will be the preferred weapon.
@@Chatter76 it can take glock mags, which gives the option for 15, 17, 19, 21, 27, 33, and 40 round mags as well as 50 and 100 round drums. Option are dope
Not the first time I came early.
Won't be the last.
The military's new SMG isn't the APC9 K. It's the APC9 K PRO.
I'm old enough to have seen the M3A1 in service while I was on active duty--and I've fired a magazine through one, was armorer-trained on the type, and during the 1990's my arms room had 70 of them in stock. I do have limited range fire experience with the MP-5 (but not in combat!) and a few other submachine guns as well.
Back in 1938 the US Army wanted a weapon to replace the pistol, the submachine gun, and for some non-riflemen the rifle as well--in 1941 this became the M1 Carbine, a 5.5 pound weapon using a different cartridge from the M1 Rifle and the BAR (aka the Automatic Rifle, M1918A2). During World War Two some 5.5 million M1 Rifles were made and more than 6 million M1 Carbines were produced. By the Korean conflict the M2 Carbine (select-fire) had displaced the submachine gun in the US Army except for armored fighting vehicle equipment and for some special forces applications. Declaring that the M14 Rifle was the replacement for the M1 Rifle, M2 Carbine, M3 Submachine Gun and the BAR didn't make it so--and then there was the M16. Initially the AR-15 was regarded with awe bordering on worshiping magic--the Viet Cong liked them a lot when they could steal them. However, the initial mass-produced M16 quickly got a reputation for being more dangerous to the American rifleman than to the enemy--and Stoner was screaming "SABOTAGE!"
What does this have to do with the Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) and the submachine gun in that role? The M16 was a credible replacement for infantry submachine guns and the M1/M2 Carbine, and most riflemen really didn't need the "full bore" M14 rifle and 7.62mm NATO cartridge. There was another issue--within 300 meters the M16-armed rifleman had a higher hit probability--beyond 400 meters most riflemen couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with any rifle, even when they could clearly see their target. Submachine guns on rock-n-roll were great within 25 meters, but beyond 50 meters their pistol bullet ballistics were poor even on semiauto--that's why the M1 Carbine was such a WW2 hit. Much of NATO was arming second line troops with cheap submachine guns instead of expensive rifles because the SMG was easier to carry and CHEAP--I did mention SMGs were cheap, didn't I? Besides, the old standard was issuing obsolete bolt action rifles and a few cartridges to second line troops--the SMG could burp out a full magazine with bullets labeled "to any soldier" which was more annoying to enemy raiders than a few single shots that missed. NATO went into panic mode when widespread issue of body armor happened in the Warsaw Pact armies and were in the middle of swapping out to the5.56mm NATO when they put out the PDW requirements: cheap (at least cheaper than their 5.56mm service rifle), compact (more compact than their 5.56mm service rifle), light weight, adequate performance within 150 meters, easy to use, and able to defeat soft body armor.
The US began using the M4 Carbine in the 1990's--had been using "submachine gun" editions of the AR-15 since the early 1960's with barrels as short as 10 inches. The M4 can be used by any rifleman trained on the M16 family, uses standard magazines and ammunition, most parts interchange between the M4 and M16, and the M4 has better ballistics than any of the PDW cartridges--plus the PDW turned out to be twice as expensive as the M4 and was nearly the same weight--though the various PDWs are more compact. Unless there was a reason why the M4 was unsuitable, the M4 performed better than the PDW--and could a conventional pistol work when there wasn't room enough for the M4?
Britain's IW family has had a troubled past, but its bullpup design made it more compact--and no PDW can touch the L85 in the accuracy department.
The PDW still has a role in VIP protection and some special forces applications. Arming vehicle crews--the M1 Carbine never did replace all of the pistols in the US Army--Military Police, tank crews and air crews all kept their pistols. Sometimes there's no room for a shoulder weapon.
20 round mag with 1080 rof?
Won’t they be reloading a bit too often?
I mean, lets face it, even with smgs most firing done with small arms in combat is semiautomatic. The full auto is usually just to quickly suppress when ambushed, but most firing will be done semi automatic so a super fast fire rate isn't a huge issue. How reliable, light, and compact the weapon is will be of far greater importance
James Rauch fair point, and if your going to suppress someone might as well really suppress someone, though they’ll only be surppressed for about .75 seconds with that mag size
I have an idea! We can belt feed it mags!
@Yuck Foutube One mag in 1 sec !!!!
They will literally never use full auto - mostly single or short bursts
The designers of the Thompson had less than a basic understanding of physics
And a more than basic understanding of aesthetics.
The Military should have gone with the full-auto Stribog SP9A3 for literally 25% of the cost of the B&T APC9K. I like B&T, but at military scales of purchasing, the cost difference seems ridiculous and unwarranted given how incredibly controllable and reliable the Stribog is in full-auto mode. My 2 cents...
@ 7:42 "you shoot we'll watch" THAT'S teamwork!
M 3 dust cover acted as a safety, if it breaks, the weapon will still fire. It will not cause a double feed, which would be caused by the magazine.
2:11 that would be an HK MP7 mate, and I think an SMG/PDW still has a role for security still.
US Army: Let's give SIG a huge contract for the M17
Sig: Also makes the MPX, an excellent PDW with the manual-of-arms of an M4 and parts compatibility
US Army: buys a B&T MP5 ripoff that uses glock mags
Go back to your airsoft Field and stop Talking bs
It's bizarre that when talking about the history of the submachine gun, this video entirely neglects to mention the Bergmann MP 18.
That's definitly an oversight, saying the Thompson changed the world instead of the impact the MP 18 had at the end of WW1 with the development of Stormtrooper assault tactics is outrageous
if you bring up the MP 18 then you would also have to bring up the m1918 beretta so it was a better call to just show the automatic Luger
The Americans only want to talk about themselves. None of that foreign mess.
@@GabeNsApostle The problem is this channel, not Americans in general. Check out Forgotten Weapons if you care about accurate history of small arms development. th-cam.com/users/ForgottenWeapons
well the mp 18 is german and people dont like to give ww1 and ww2 era germans any credit
my dad was in the 77th div 306 FA in 1942 he was a FO, he carried a Thompson ,and a 1911 ,said he tried a grease gun , but keep the Thompson. said it was a great jungle warfare weapon, her was the lead FO at hacksaw ridge.
APC9K will replace the mp5
H&K : hold my beer
*releases MP6
MP5.2: Electric Boogaloo
This is an odd choice but you do you army. I'm still a Vector fan, heard great things about the MP7 but I have as much of a chance of firing one of those let alone owning one as I do a FAMAS here.
This gun looks like it was made out of Chris's childhood insecurities...
Someone: This gun will replace the MP5
Everyone else: *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA* no.
Thank you for taking on this challange.
I was issued and qualified with a M3 Grease Gun in 1990. Track drivers were given them in the 11ACR.
Y’all were showing me soldiers holding MP7’s in some pictures. Just something I noticed
Mp5 is the king of SMGs, end of story.
Shut up you idiot the p90 is the best even though its a pdw
@@SniperScav Triggered bitch boy who haven't fired a gun.
This should be in MW2019 as DLC lol. It should be the gun that competes the MP5 and should have better stats
The US Army was still using the M3 Grease Gun in the mid 80s for tank crews.
Great video full of information, but i want one! The Mil can use whatever they like but I like the way this thing works
thanks for watching, you and me both!
So many military contract experts in the comment section.
so as i was saying they should just get the Uzi Pro it is show cased as VIP protection
They have tried to do this so many times, just leave the mp5 alone it’s really good and does it’s job. And if they really want something a bit more modern and smaller go with the mp5k with some picitiny rails
0:33
i thought my graphics card was dying
Should do a 6mm mag round at 2500+fps for far more ammo capacity, hits on target, and armor penetration.
i feel like the pdw idea still has merit for the military today. something small but high velocity and hopefully armor piercing on some level that you can outfit supply guys, vehicle crews and other rear echelon units with to protect themselves in close combat situations. the mp7 and p90 for example seems like an excellent weapon to this day and ammunition has improved since its inception. i suppose now that the 6.8 big boy M5 is being adopted, compact 5.56 carbines could fill the roll as well lol.
What the hell was in the brief for this? "We need a 9mm SMG with extreme rate of fire, but a tiny mag capacity, must be reliable and available to be mass produced, but lets buy it from a non-fire arms company" Can anyone else smell the "doomed to fail" smell from here?
The AMT of the submachine gun world? Well at least they'll make great collectors' items.
why arent smgs that feed from the grip like a pistol a thing? when you only have a 4 inch barrel getting an extra 2 for the same overall length would be pretty big would it not?
you mean an UZI? yeah, they've existed for while now. Summary on why they didn't catch on, because then you have 2 options. Either:
1-you gotta move the entire trigger group back, which also moves the moving mass back, to on top of your hand, making it less accurate.
or 2-you gotta add parts for it to work, which makes it more complex, which makes it more prone to malfunction.
And on top of that it is also more awkward, and therefore takes more time to reload.
Do note pistols are semiautomatic and the slide acts as the moving part too because their primary function is to be as small as possible. Smgs have to actually be accurate while shooting in full auto. And an UZI most certainly isn't. It's actually a tad of a piece of shit despite how iconic it is.
Do note that pistol trigger groups are
3:35 Politicians aren't that important
4:54 it's "tried and true"
8:15 I'm an asshole
love how hey just jumps over the mp 18
The biggest thing that put the SMG out of general service was the automatic carbine doing its job better. M14 and later the M16 hit harder at longer range. Then the M4 Carbine came out and it was pretty much game over. Sure, the SpecOps boys would occasionally use MP5's due to their portability, but the M4 was just as portable in most cases. The fundamental issue with the SMG is that it uses a pistol round instead of a rifle round. While good against unarmored targets, it's just not going to be effective in the field of battle as a general issue weapon.
The APC9K is basically a modern Uzi, more of a machine pistol than an SMG. It has a second handle for accuracy's sake, because trying to one-hand an auto-pistol is... not practical. But let's face it, the reason it is being used in the role for protection detail is that it can be carried under a suit coat and not 'show' very easily, meaning they can get away with taking it into places that would frown on M4 Carbines out. And in that role, you really aren't expecting to be going up against body armor, so it *should* be effective.
Ironically, these very features also make it quite attractive to the criminal community, just like the 'Tommy Gun' was to the mafia. Can't wait until some short-sighted quartermaster 'loses' a couple of these and they make the news in some drug heist.
You wearing a weed shirt
don't tell anyone!
@@Taskandpurpose I knew it u engage in that 420 action 🐐🐐🐐
@@Taskandpurpose don't be coward support Noryml
Accepts Glock magazine meme level : army strong.
Well, that's great because Sig won the pistol contract against Glock and their magazine are... ohhh...
@@conroypawgmail you missed the joke, next time don't go off when sightly tapped like a p320
Would this be used by drivers, mechanics, engineers who don’t need a full size weapon?
ArbiterX My question is why are we looking at Submachine-gun as opposed to a Carbine like the MK18, AKS-74U, G36C, or L22A1? My guess is weight, size and recoil since a Submachine gun will usually be lighter and smaller than a rifle and a 9mm, 5.7 or 4.6 will be lighter and smaller(meaning more ammo or more space for other stuff) and have lower recoil, making them easier to shoot, especially for someone whose main task is not to fight the enemy with a rifle. The primary issue I have is that SMGs lack the range and penetrating power of a rifle round. Yes, there are AP rounds for pistols, but they won’t do crap against a steel or composite armor plate that can stop full power rifle rounds.
Quicker Cqc, high fire rate sudden suppression at close range, pistol rounds will always be easier to suppress noise, low recoil more rounds on target, weight/size, less over pen if in close to other vip's (traitor guard scenario), and last but not least....armor never covers everything (at least not yet...)
Legs, groin, arms, neck, shoulders, face, head, hands, under armpits
Like he said maybe it's only used for vip protection (i.e bodyguards wearing suits) so even sbr m4 will still too big with its fixed stock. And as far as i know there isn't a reliable and proven folding stock for AR platform.
@@tidusyukimura8679 its hard to have a folding stock AR 15 because (on most AR's) that's where the recoil spring is, so when it comes to being compact yeah it'll always be a turn towards an SMG or other platform
You are halarious and informative thanks for your channel and work
I learned nothing about the APC9K but now I know lots about the Thompson and MP5.
Same round, same problems. They can only redesign the M9 and MP5 so many times before they realize that the round is what's wrong with the gun.
9mm is popping whatcha mean
@@tylerberg4832 Your right, it's sufficient for most jobs involving a firearm, but for the military's purposes, is it the 5.56 or 10mm? Arguably better, more capable rounds that can fit into the same sized package?
Hey why don’t you play rainbow 6 siege on channel? It’s fun AF.
we have a video game channel for that! maybe I'll stream some rainbow 6 today but I usually get destroyed in that game constantly th-cam.com/channels/86QRqNk11-gppBfWqr2Fvw.html
Question is why did they do this as opposed to a carbine such as the MK-18 or L22A1?
And god help you if "you" set off a hypervelocity round crack in a enclosed space filled with vip's... on a ship, tight buildings, hallways
Jeez my ears HURT just thinking about that concussion...never enough ear protection
@@DragoonZeroAlpha Isn't 9mm, .40S&W, and most bottlenecked pistol cartridges(7.62 Tokarev, 5.7 FN for example) a Supersonic round? If they were concerned about a supersonic crack why not issue .45 ACP or Sub-sonic 9mm?
@@MPdude237 ah. I was answering the question of platforms above and then comparing "Rifle rounds" to "pistol rounds" the pressure spike/sound is much more....
Def agree with you however, if you already have 9mm in logistics why not just make the bullet heavier and slower.
Also lower pressure means you need less materials to build gun=smaller/lighter
It was a detachable holster on the Luger. The early sub machine guns were made for air craft as you could carry more than rifle ammunition and weighed less.
I remember the M3 grease gun in the late 70's in a maintenance company on a M88 recovery vehicle.We supported a armor unit.
nothing comes close to the mp5.
this just looks a whole lot like a H&K ripoff.
I wear a fedora unironically.
based
@@Dycewyfe
it's a good one, too. custom, black with a red braid, with a deep blue locally-sourced feather ('local' as in 'from my backyard after a good shot').
Wide or short brim?
@@scottland8698
wide, obviously, about 7cm. short brim is a trilby thing.
Not something I want admit out load mate.... unless I work in the mafia with a grease gun/tommy at my back. That’s only time when fedora is awesome to me, nowadays it’s associated with edgy neckbeard virgin fedora Tipping atheists, which is not cool, god I wish the era of the mafia return
You know the germans had actual smgs in ww1 right?
The Italians did it first though
Yes, but the MP18 was indeed the first practical SMG.
Uli Krosse I guess if we ignore the villar perosa yeah
@@jb76489
the perosa was awkward to shoot and had very limited numbers produced, the MP18 is were the money is at
@@billwilson7841 "the perosa was awkward to shoot" so was the mp 18
"had very limited numbers produced," citation needed
And none of this changes the fact the villlar Perosa came first but whatever
Glad to see Task & Purpose are fellow Cru fans
*Talks about MP5 in R6
Me: *has doc spawnpeek flashbacks