Money for prisons but not for the American people like for example veterans, disabled, and dont forget the kids and families that are going hungry tonight and cant pay rent bills etc. does this make sense?🤔
It was UTAH RESIDENTS that voted for the new prison. Yes, all of the residents that decided to buy near the prison in Draper are exact ones that have pushed and pushed for this new prison for as long as I can remember.
That is so incredibly sad to hear. .. I am so opposed to the current prison system and mass long term incarceration. .. it's totally archaic.. horrifically so.
I won’t lie, as a new officer that works in the slc prison I not a fan of it’s designed. Especially don’t like direct supervision, it doesn’t work especially in max.
There is one problem with rehab. If the inmate does not wish to partake in being rehabbed, they won’t take part. Same with jobs unless Utah has a policy where every inmate will have a job. Hope every inmate will get to take advantage of all the free stuff given to them. Can’t beat state welfare programs, they work.
Rehab in the prison system is as cheap as they can possibly make it. This means it is not successful. ALL of the treatment programs in the Iowa prison system were a failure.
18 elderly and health compromised prisoners died wrongfully of Covid19 in Draper Prison. Now families are still not able to hug those that survived Covid19. We are only allowed one video visit or one in person visit behind a barrier each month. I have not hugged my father since January of 2020. I'm not the only one suffering from this (parents, spouses, children, and loved ones) many have lost loved ones to Covid19 and didn't get to say goodbye. Why are we being punished when Covid19 was brought in by the staff working at the prisons. These people were treated less then and died in horrible ways and the surviving prisoners and families are still suffering and are victims of the prisons handling of the pandemic. Prison reform and medical care should be at the top of the list for change!
@@michaelbean9183 Hey mabey don't do crime😁 If you really knew how the system worked you wouldn't make such generic remarks. Not everyone in prison is guilty of the crime they were convicted of and many of these facilities house people who have severe addictions and mental health problems. Instead of picking at those who are making the public aware of the atrocities that happened during a deadly virus, you should use your words for more productive things. If your a Christian man do you believe that Jesus was a criminal or any of the prophets that died in prisons as criminals. How about all the prisoners being taken in war or those who are imprisoned in other countries for free speech? You generalized an entire population of people all because they are in the criminal justice system.
@Quonte X I respect that! I hadn't thought about it like that. You're right and I am wrong. True criminals don't go to prison. They continue governing the country, others continue being free.
back in the 90's my mom worked for federal corrections and they just built a new state of the art maximum security wing at the penitentiary she worked at. They had an open house a week before it was populated. I got a very unique rare opportunity as a teenager to go to prison for a day.. I still remember the echoing down the halls as the doors clanged open and closed and the doors were heavy like full of concrete,
Did she actually just say "cool to see" 😒. There's nothing cool about human beings being treated and detained that way for years.. for a lifetime. It's atrocious and the old one.. as he said was/is even worse.
They need o make the people who make these places stay in them for 30 days, cause everything they say is pure BS, speaking from someone who did 3 years in adseg
@@codyramos3200 Well...not so much "housing" but facilities where they can stay where there are resources to move them back into society. People fail somewhere...get stuck...then won't go where the work is...then down the tubes they go. If we put a 1/4 of the effort we do into punishing people in this country we wouldn't have near the homeless problem.
@@willybones3890 what percentage of homeless people do you think are willing to work full time jobs ? What percentage would you say have no problem being drunk and high all day unwilling to work ..
Too soft. There are already too many criminals willing to short 5 years stint over having a real job. 3 years fire good behavior. What is good behavior in prison anyway.?
If you have a family member in prison and they are eligible for the stimulus check. You need to have them fill out a 3911 form for each individual check not received and mail or fax it in to the IRS. If not you have to get power of attorney for the specific task of getting the stimulus check. If your loved one was working during COVID-19 have them fill out this form and send it to the IRS. Some prisons are not allowing prisoners to call the IRS.
@@kristianvandehei8757 I used to work with utah inmates because our company was next to the prison and they would hire inmates and make them work for minimum wage and then the prison takes it cut and what's left for the inmates is $1.50.
@@asiandwanemeighan6479 And who told you that? The inmates? Those inmates aren't forced to work there, in fact they actually have to apply for those type of jobs. And who gets those jobs is determined by their crimes. If they have violent crimes or are constantly causing problems they don't get to work those kinda jobs. Second, the state doesn't pocket all that extra money, yes some of them to owe fees and stuff to the state but a lot of that money also goes to their attorney fees and if any of them owe restitution to victims. Third, look at the cost to run a prison. Employees salaries, all the vehicles and everything that comes with a fleet. Utilities, the amount of food to feed a prison. All the medical bills. The amount of money the small percentage of inmates who do get to have those type of jobs, doesn't even touch the surface of what it costs to run the prison.
Stop selling junk food to inmates and their time will get a lot harder and reform a bit easier. I’ve done time. And getting transferred to a prison with an abundance of luxuries was like getting released.
My aunt Samantha Brown is looking over this project. The main feature of this prison is that there will be underground tunnel system to safely relocate inmates from one block to another without having to take them through the main areas. She's told us how uncle Ronnie, an architect, helped her conceive this idea.
🤸 The direct supervision model is backfiring in 2024, because of low staffing making it so part of the prison can't be used, but after hearing about how prisons that are over crowded are a complete nightmare!.... I think cutting beds is the decision that's going to haunt Utah most of all, it's going to hurts in two ways. 1: Inhumane conditions in the prison because of over crowding. 2: The prison letting out people that our better left in because of over crowding. 🤦
Lucky Inmates whoever gets to Live there...... That looks like TV prisons or Max Security Prisons, not General population prisons... When i Toured the NCCF, it was Overcrowded, it was like 500 inmates in one big room with 3 on each bunk bed, and there were over 160 bunk beds in that room.
Sun light and a degree that'll get a man started on the outs should be incentive enough to get their heads straight. No if or buts or maybes from here on out. .
Terrible waste of money. The old prison had some issues that could have been fixend but no the state legislature (mostly develpers and home builders) sells the land and the builders and developers make a bundle and the taxpayers get the shaft again!
@Egon Pax I agree in the sense it’s probably better then the lethal injection, but IT IS NOT instantly, that is false. They aim at your heart(center chest actually), which would be very quick but still not instantly.
It’s very humane, it’s quick, it’s effective and bonus it’s relatively inexpensive for the Tax payers. Typically a Doctor comes in verifying where the inmate heart is, places a sticker on the inmates chest, the riflemen aims for the sticker they all fire. Typically the inmate body is overwhelmed goes into something like shock relatively little pain they black out, the remaining organs shut down and the inmate dies. It’s all very professional, clinical, even respectful.
Who gives a shit if it's humane?? SERIOUSLY!! If you end up being sentenced to death YOU DON'T DESERVE HUMANE ANYTHING! And life without parole is just a bigger waste of taxpayer money.
Money for prisons but not for the American people like for example veterans, disabled, and dont forget the kids and families that are going hungry tonight and cant pay rent bills etc. does this make sense?🤔
That prison is for the American people 🤫
@@jeffclyburn8000 exactly
This isn't about helping prisoner's . It's about the prime real estate the draper prison is sitting on.
It was UTAH RESIDENTS that voted for the new prison. Yes, all of the residents that decided to buy near the prison in Draper are exact ones that have pushed and pushed for this new prison for as long as I can remember.
Prisons are a necessity.
Ahhhhh. There is nothing like that new prison smell.
"getting up everyday, feeling like you're somebody!" hmmm...
That schitt don't even make sense, does it?
Oh yeah, they just want to degrade and beat you down so they can break your psyche so they can make more money on you just like restocked product.
As someone who was in the prison at Draper, this looks like the Hilton in comparison.
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That is so incredibly sad to hear. .. I am so opposed to the current prison system and mass long term incarceration. .. it's totally archaic.. horrifically so.
I won’t lie, as a new officer that works in the slc prison I not a fan of it’s designed. Especially don’t like direct supervision, it doesn’t work especially in max.
There is one problem with rehab. If the inmate does not wish to partake in being rehabbed, they won’t take part. Same with jobs unless Utah has a policy where every inmate will have a job. Hope every inmate will get to take advantage of all the free stuff given to them. Can’t beat state welfare programs, they work.
Rehab in the prison system is as cheap as they can possibly make it. This means it is not successful. ALL of the treatment programs in the Iowa prison system were a failure.
18 elderly and health compromised prisoners died wrongfully of Covid19 in Draper Prison. Now families are still not able to hug those that survived Covid19. We are only allowed one video visit or one in person visit behind a barrier each month. I have not hugged my father since January of 2020. I'm not the only one suffering from this (parents, spouses, children, and loved ones) many have lost loved ones to Covid19 and didn't get to say goodbye. Why are we being punished when Covid19 was brought in by the staff working at the prisons. These people were treated less then and died in horrible ways and the surviving prisoners and families are still suffering and are victims of the prisons handling of the pandemic. Prison reform and medical care should be at the top of the list for change!
Maybe don’t do crimes and you won’t be in prison I know that’s a crazy concept
@@michaelbean9183 Hey mabey don't do crime😁 If you really knew how the system worked you wouldn't make such generic remarks. Not everyone in prison is guilty of the crime they were convicted of and many of these facilities house people who have severe addictions and mental health problems. Instead of picking at those who are making the public aware of the atrocities that happened during a deadly virus, you should use your words for more productive things. If your a Christian man do you believe that Jesus was a criminal or any of the prophets that died in prisons as criminals. How about all the prisoners being taken in war or those who are imprisoned in other countries for free speech? You generalized an entire population of people all because they are in the criminal justice system.
Criminals watching this like "I could live here... YESSIR"
@Quonte X Criminals!! It's being built to keep people who break the law.
@Quonte X I respect that! I hadn't thought about it like that. You're right and I am wrong. True criminals don't go to prison. They continue governing the country, others continue being free.
@Quonte X I'm going to watch it. I'll get back at you after.
haha facts!😁😁😁
back in the 90's my mom worked for federal corrections and they just built a new state of the art maximum security wing at the penitentiary she worked at. They had an open house a week before it was populated. I got a very unique rare opportunity as a teenager to go to prison for a day.. I still remember the echoing down the halls as the doors clanged open and closed and the doors were heavy like full of concrete,
The "education" in the prison system is a literal joke.
Fun project. The boys are watching with new enthusiasm.
Nice the next site for corruption and no real rehabilitation
Did she actually just say "cool to see" 😒. There's nothing cool about human beings being treated and detained that way for years.. for a lifetime. It's atrocious and the old one.. as he said was/is even worse.
@Eph 2 your comment says a lot about you.
@Eph 2 I have no idea what you mean.
Sorry, the prisoners put themselves into prison by their OWN actions and deeds not the citizens!
Not feeling one bit sorry for prisoners!
How about making them work to repay their victims. They have way too much time on their hands to get prison tats do drugs and buff up.
AND ALSO TAKE CHEEKS 💩
Back in high school our parish would go visit the local med security prison to provide mass & fellowship to the inmates. I hope it helped.
Is this in Gunnison? Any 2021 news about Troy Kell on Death Row in Utah State Pen Gunnison?
He still holding on for dear life haa he probably ready to go...
Glad to see they are addressing mental health.
Isn't prison supposed prevent people from committing crimes? Damn place is nicer than Condos in Miami!
Cells were made in Huron SD and trucked in for assembly
They need o make the people who make these places stay in them for 30 days, cause everything they say is pure BS, speaking from someone who did 3 years in adseg
This sounds absolutely horrible. Take me back to the old draper days. This will NOT help.
Strange how we seem to have money to build and staff prisons but not funds to build facilities to help homeless.
Why would anyone build housing for homeless people? There's better ways to throwaway taxpayers money.
@@codyramos3200 Well...not so much "housing" but facilities where they can stay where there are resources to move them back into society. People fail somewhere...get stuck...then won't go where the work is...then down the tubes they go. If we put a 1/4 of the effort we do into punishing people in this country we wouldn't have near the homeless problem.
@@willybones3890 what percentage of homeless people do you think are willing to work full time jobs ? What percentage would you say have no problem being drunk and high all day unwilling to work ..
@@codyramos3200 Thats certainly what happens when hopelessness sets in. Gotta help people before they give up.
Throwing money at homeless people doesn't help homeless people. Look at California.
Thanks for the Intel
Too soft. There are already too many criminals willing to short 5 years stint over having a real job. 3 years fire good behavior. What is good behavior in prison anyway.?
If they dont get killed by the guards, who are the ones to be worried about.
If you have a family member in prison and they are eligible for the stimulus check. You need to have them fill out a 3911 form for each individual check not received and mail or fax it in to the IRS. If not you have to get power of attorney for the specific task of getting the stimulus check. If your loved one was working during COVID-19 have them fill out this form and send it to the IRS. Some prisons are not allowing prisoners to call the IRS.
That's really great they house them by behavior. Death row in some prisons is straight up mental torture.
So is all lock-up in the Iowa prison system.
Is this one going to have a SNY Yard (Protective Custody)?
FOR ALL THE SOFTIES "WEAK" 😩
Yes another for profit prison, now it's time to fill it up with poor people.
You think the prison in Utah makes money? lmao are you for real?!
@@kristianvandehei8757 I used to work with utah inmates because our company was next to the prison and they would hire inmates and make them work for minimum wage and then the prison takes it cut and what's left for the inmates is $1.50.
@@kristianvandehei8757 they make money by exploiting the inmates.
@@asiandwanemeighan6479 And who told you that? The inmates? Those inmates aren't forced to work there, in fact they actually have to apply for those type of jobs. And who gets those jobs is determined by their crimes. If they have violent crimes or are constantly causing problems they don't get to work those kinda jobs. Second, the state doesn't pocket all that extra money, yes some of them to owe fees and stuff to the state but a lot of that money also goes to their attorney fees and if any of them owe restitution to victims. Third, look at the cost to run a prison. Employees salaries, all the vehicles and everything that comes with a fleet. Utilities, the amount of food to feed a prison. All the medical bills. The amount of money the small percentage of inmates who do get to have those type of jobs, doesn't even touch the surface of what it costs to run the prison.
Impressive - $1 billion ought to do it!
1 BILLION DOLLARS? What in the flying duck.
Wow, Firing Squad ? I didn’t realize they did that in the us.
Only in Utah
Stop selling junk food to inmates and their time will get a lot harder and reform a bit easier. I’ve done time. And getting transferred to a prison with an abundance of luxuries was like getting released.
A lot of these fast food restaurants through out tons of food . Maybe they used that to save money
They need hologram projectors and robot servants and spas and lounges
My aunt Samantha Brown is looking over this project. The main feature of this prison is that there will be underground tunnel system to safely relocate inmates from one block to another without having to take them through the main areas. She's told us how uncle Ronnie, an architect, helped her conceive this idea.
@@sector783 So are do the inmates that do have to be relocated, done so traditionally then?
It is an improvement
I'd take a maximum security cell over that 8 man one, fuck that shit.
🤸 The direct supervision model is backfiring in 2024, because of low staffing making it so part of the prison can't be used, but after hearing about how prisons that are over crowded are a complete nightmare!....
I think cutting beds is the decision that's going to haunt Utah most of all, it's going to hurts in two ways.
1: Inhumane conditions in the prison because of over crowding.
2: The prison letting out people that our better left in because of over crowding. 🤦
Need more..
Right? The Homies are looking to figure out how they can get there a little asses in that apartment condo living
Lucky Inmates whoever gets to Live there...... That looks like TV prisons or Max Security Prisons, not General population prisons...
When i Toured the NCCF, it was Overcrowded, it was like 500 inmates in one big room with 3 on each bunk bed, and there were over 160 bunk beds in that room.
Remember when utahused railings on the second level and in the winter of 2007 everyone committed suicide by hanging themselves.
So you go to prison to have fun wow I think a lot of people like to go to prison
Sun light and a degree that'll get a man started on the outs should be incentive enough to get their heads straight. No if or buts or maybes from here on out. .
$1 billion.
Same as a USN warship.
😂 that guy is full of it
A BILLION dollars, with a B.
They are adding a Starbucks in there.
Utah's newest Taj Mahal over4priced in the wrong location...again! Where is the execution facility?
Sickening
Hell is Always hell
They still use firing squads in Utah?!
No it won't I've been in places like this
Teach California what needs to happen.
Unfortunetely Gavin Shitsom wont understand.
Make inmates watch executions that's the best deterant and put thier brains on reality reset.
Once you work executions
life and thinking changes.
Hello
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8 man cell is 6 men to many for me bro. That sucks big time!!!!
Terrible waste of money.
The old prison had some issues that could have been fixend but no the state legislature (mostly develpers and home builders) sells the land and the builders and developers make a bundle and the taxpayers get the shaft again!
Der was death row prisoner n draper
Billion dollars ?
Explain why we have to make prisons nice for pieces of garbage that have committed crimes.....
Mosquito-land.
More Jobs huh doesn't make sense!!!!
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firing squad!?!? I'm sorry but that does not sound humane...
@Egon Pax I'm biased?
@Egon Pax I agree in the sense it’s probably better then the lethal injection, but IT IS NOT instantly, that is false. They aim at your heart(center chest actually), which would be very quick but still not instantly.
It’s very humane, it’s quick, it’s effective and bonus it’s relatively inexpensive for the Tax payers. Typically a Doctor comes in verifying where the inmate heart is, places a sticker on the inmates chest, the riflemen aims for the sticker they all fire. Typically the inmate body is overwhelmed goes into something like shock relatively little pain they black out, the remaining organs shut down and the inmate dies. It’s all very professional, clinical, even respectful.
@@dtobler4638 Surely shots to the head would be quicker.
Who gives a shit if it's humane?? SERIOUSLY!! If you end up being sentenced to death YOU DON'T DESERVE HUMANE ANYTHING! And life without parole is just a bigger waste of taxpayer money.