13 Questions on Jesus and Islam - Answered by Dr. Bart Ehrman
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- Bart Ehrman makes an fascinating return to answer the Islamic perspective of Jesus. Enjoy this!
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00:00 Introduction
01:19 The Importance of the Resurrection of Jesus
03:59 Popular Beliefs on the Resurrection
05:18 Bart Ehrman Responds to the Islamic Crucifixion Narrative
07:30 Why Would Jesus not be Crucified?
10:57 Islam's Strange Adoption of Crucifixion Denial
12:36 The Virgin Birth Should not be in Islam
15:18 Why does Jesus Give Life and Resurrect?
17:06 Was Jesus a Muslim?
20:18 Jesus Thought of Himself as the Last Prophet
21:41 What does Elijah Mean?
22:45 What Language did Jesus Speak?
23:24 What did Jesus call God? Did he say Father?
25:08 Did Jesus bring a "revelation" as the Quran claims?
28:00 If Islam were right, what would the Gospel be?
29:34 Is the Quran a reliable source on Jesus?
30:43 Bart Ehrman's Feedback
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Yes, I took the opportunity to let Bart Ehrman tell us what Elijah (Eliyahu/Ilyas) means, which in and of itself damages the Islamic narrative severely. Let me know what part you liked the most.
Enjoy!
00:00 Introduction
01:19 The Importance of the Resurrection of Jesus
03:59 Popular Beliefs on the Resurrection
05:18 Bart Ehrman Responds to the Islamic Crucifixion Narrative
07:30 Why Would Jesus not be Crucified?
10:57 Islam's Strange Adoption of Crucifixion Denial
12:36 The Virgin Birth Should not be in Islam
15:18 Why does Jesus Give Life and Resurrect?
17:06 Was Jesus a Muslim?
20:18 Jesus Thought of Himself as the Last Prophet
21:41 What does Elijah Mean?
22:45 What Language did Jesus Speak?
23:24 What did Jesus call God? Did he say Father?
25:08 Did Jesus bring a "revelation" as the Quran claims?
28:00 If Islam were right, what would the Gospel be?
29:34 Is the Quran a reliable source on Jesus?
30:43 Bart Ehrman's Feedback
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Yikes!
The Koran portraits a very sneaky nasty Jesus that laughs at someone else's demise the person who gets crucified in his place. That's not like Jesus at all. But this might appeal to a certain type of violent person who might think it was a clever thing to do.
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*"If Jesus was alive today, he'd be surprised to hear that he's been called a Muslim!"* - Bart Ehrman
It is indeed one of the most ludicrous claims ever.
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Funny. Muslim is an arabic word which means submission to God. I think Bart Ehrman does not understand the arabic language. If you were to interpret the arabic word "muslim" to english, I think he would definitely accept that Jesus would have submitted himself to God if he was alive today. Because that's what we find in his books.
@@mahs3117 but Jesus won’t accept Muhammed as seal of prophet or even a prophet at all.
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And the "motto" of America is "In God we trust".
Islam Huh? What about the fact Jesus is mentioned by name over a dozen times more then Muhammad? Or that the only female name in the Koran is Jesus mother's name, Miriam and that she was said to have never sinned, never had original sin and her physical body went into paradise? And that Jesus, he was given the names, the WORD of God, the SPIRIT of God, and the CHRIST? And how Did Allah create the universe? By his WORD. Who is the WORD? JESUS. So Jesus Is GOD. Right? He's more important in the Koran then Muhammad is. More is said about him. And in Koran it says follow the Old testament and the Gospels which say Jesus is God and died for your sins. 🇺🇸
@@oliverqueen5033.... Oh u intelligent, Phrophet Moses AS was described in Quraan more times than Jesus AS, know?
@@oliverqueen5033 you're doing some hardcore drugs son.
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CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND THAT IN THE CORÁN, THANK YOU!!!
AP, I’m a conservative Christian minister, and I gotta say…you’re my favorite atheist.
Yea AP is the prophet of christianity loved by gentiles who worship a man on a cross we know
@@generaljg4373 Ap is more qualified to be a prophet than muhammed the pedophilia expert
@@generaljg4373 Hey! I found the angry Muslim! That was easy. Can you demonstrate what is wrong with worshiping the God Who entered His own creation to take the punishment for the sins of His own creation upon Himself so that His creatures can be forgiven and cleansed from wickedness so that His creatures might enjoy an eternal existence basking in His glory as opposed to screwing virgins for all of eternity?
@@generaljg4373 Pack it in, Abdul. 🙄
@@AilynDay1 We are all abduls in the sense that we are "God's creation and servant" . Got it christian abdul ?😂😂
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Quran: God is not your father. Do not refer to him as your father.
Jesus: let's pray to Abba Father, "Our Father who's in heaven holy is Your name...."
Muslim: I do not feel comfortable saying that prayer, Jesus
Stop it Jesus! that's not Muslim of you! Did you apostatize!? 😡 You know what we do to those who leave!
@@khadijacaz7 lol XD
so Jesus doesn't follow the teaching of Quran
muslim: Jesus, you are not following the speech of Allah
Yes, Allah is not the father to anyone so Jesus can't be a muslim.
Muslims : Jesus prayed like a Muslim
Bible : Jesus fell to ground LOOKED UP called GOD FATHER and told his disciples DONT DO REPETITIONS IN PRAYER
Jesus was calling god as heavenly Father so it can't be the prayer of Islam.
MUSLIMS DONT FALL BUT THEY KNEEL ITS THE HINDUS WHO FALL SO JESUS WAS A HINDU RIGHT !!!
THE MUSLIMS PRAY IN A EGYPTIAN PAROAH STYLE BUT THE ISHMALITES FOLLOWRD THE HINDU STYLE WITH EARRRING ON THEIR EARS.
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EX-MUSLIM ,SOMALI:
---As a former Muslim, I left Islam after I realized that it is not a religion, but a malicious, evil, brutal, poisonous and deadly ideology that kills the mind and thought before the soul. And wherever Islam is, ignorance, hatred, violence and murder will inevitably spread, and slavery, tyranny, oppression, deprivation and humiliation will prevail.
---Praise be to God who saved me from the quagmire of the brutal and dark Islamic religion.
---Warning and Warning: Never trust the imams of Islam and the preachers of Islam, because they use taqiyya (deception) and deliberately conceal the brutal, immoral and inhuman meanings of the surahs and verses .
---Many people do not know that the Qur’an is full of brutal verses that incite, conspire, and permit the killing of non-Muslims in general and Jews and Christians in particular.
***For example, but not limited :
The biggest proof that the Qur’an is an evil book is Surat At-Tawbah, verse 5 This verse was called by Muhammad and his companions the verse of the sword, due to its brutality and cruelty to wards non-Muslims in general.
(Kill the polytheists wherever you find them and besiege them wherever they are and do not have mercy on them...etc.)
---And the inhumane surahs and verses that describe Christians and Jews as apes, pigs, and improvement.
---Many people do not know that the Qur’an is full of immoral surahs and verses that incite, conspire and permit prostitution.
***For example, but not limited:
verse of pleasure marriage or temporary marriage.
---The surahs and verses that allow the marriage of a young girl who has not yet menstruated
---And the surahs and verses that permit marriage with four women plus an unspecified number of slave women for sexual pleasure .
---And the surahs and verses that allow the master to enjoy sexually with the wife of his servant
---And the surahs and verses that permit the slave trade
---And the surahs and verses that describe women as unclean and classify them under the rank of excrement (W.C)
---And the surahs and the verses that permit the invasion and the spoils
--- Without forgetting that the god of Islam uses temptation with his followers by promising them that he will give them women, virgin girls and beautiful children for sexual pleasure, and that all kinds of sexual perversion and moral perversion are permitted in heaven Islam
---Muslims accuse other religions of being pagan religions, and they have forgotten themselves and their Islamic religion as being the source of paganism.
***For example, but not limited:
Culte de la Pierre Noire - Culte du Mont Arafa - Culte de Safa et Marwa - Monument à Satan - ...etc.
---There is an authentic hadith narrated by Aisha, the wife of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, Abdullah Ibn Abbas, Abdullah Ibn Masoud and other companions of Muhammad, that the verse of stoning was present. But the paper on which was written the verse of stoning was eaten by a goat, it was not taken into consideration and it was deleted from the Qur’an .
***So this is another evidence among the millions of evidence that the Qur'an is not a divine book And it does not deserve respect or consideration because it has no credibility. Therefore, the moral duty, the human duty, and the scientific duty dictate banning this book called the Qur’an because it is harmful and destructive to all of humanity.
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--- If Islam was truly a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, why did the Companions not attend the burial of Muhammad?
***Note: Many people do not know that Muhammad was a prophet who was buried only by some members of his family.
If Islam was really a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, why did the companions of Muhammad kill each other and fight each other?
---Example :
***The Battle of the Camel between Aisha, the wife of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, against Ali Ibn Abi Talib, the son-in-law of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, where a large number of Muslims were killed in this battle.
***The Battle of Siffin between Muawiyah Ibn Abi Sufyan and Ali Ibn Abi Talib, where a large number of Muslims were killed in this battle.
---If Islam was truly a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, why did Caliph Muawiyah order his army commander to secret Ibn Abi Arta’a besieging the city for three nights, where Muslim women were raped and a large number of Muslims were killed by Muslims?
---If Islam is truly a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, then why were the descendants of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, killed by Muslims?
---If Islam was really a religion of God and a religion of peace and a religion of love, why then did the Muslims star on the Kaaba and hit it with catapults and burn it completely, at the time of the Caliph Abdul Malik bin Marwan, when he sent his fortified army commander Ibn Al-Numeir who He besieged Mecca, killed its people, and destroyed its Kaaba ?
---If Islam is truly a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, then why are Muslims divided into several sects, into several groups, into several parties and into several ideologies?
***Example :
Sunni sect - Shiite sect - Wahhabi Salafi sect - Madkhali Salafi sect - Ibadi sect - Ahmadiyya sect - Tariqa sect The Qur'anic sect - The Bukhari sect . etc
***Note: Also, each Islamic sect is divided into several different ideological currents, which are mini-sects.
Each sect permits the killing of the other sect.
*** As it happens in all Islamic countries
---If Islam is truly a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, why do Muslims accuse each other of unbelief and polytheism?
***As it happens in all Islamic countries
---If Islam is really a religion of God, a religion of peace and a religion of love, then why do Muslims kill each other?
***As it happens in all Islamic countries
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because of oppression, deprivation, injustice, persecution ,and because
of the restriction of individual life and collective freedoms, and because of the prohibition of freedom of expression,
and the prohibition of freedom of opinion, and the prohibition of even the freedom of creativity and even hope,
has become granted in Islamic countries, because of all this torment. Muslims fled and are still fleeing from their Islamic countries, aiming for Christian countries, that is, Western countries in general and European countries in particular, asking them for protection and residence.
And when you grant them residence and protection, They begin by describing and describing those countries that have done them well as infidels and that they are unclean.
---Isn't this denial and deception towards the benevolent countries?
---Is this not a betrayal of good people?
---These are all indications that the teachings of the Islamic religion, brutal and evil teachings, have changed the Muslim from a human to a monster and made him harmful to humanity.
---Why do Muslims not migrate to Mecca and Medina and seek asylum, residence and protection from them?
--- Why don't Mecca and Medina open their doors to the oppressed Muslims?
---In fact, the preachers of Islam and the imams of Islam are predators who take advantage of the naivety of the Europeans and exploit the European and Western laws that protect everyone, to spread the teachings of their brutal Islamic religion.
Therefore, if Western governments continue to turn a blind eye to this, then all of Europe will inevitably soon become Afghanistan-Bis Where you only see beheadings, people dragging in the streets, explosions, car bombs, slaughter, and rivers of blood, in other words killing life. And then regret is useless, because the time has passed.
--- That is why I say, as the wise men said, that the best blessing is to leave the brutal and evil Islamic religion
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Great interview. Bart is thoroughly engaging, humble and just a good interview!
Bart's admission that Islam's view on Jesus were a compilation of agnostic beliefs, without coherency, reinforced the view Islam grew out of a anti Trinitarian or Christian offshoot.
The most interesting observation, that I hadn't picked up on the significance, that Islam still kept the virgin birth for someone they claim was just a human, and whose divinity they struggle with.
Again, it's inconsistencies like this that suggest an organic growth out of a general 'Renegade' Christian pool of beliefs that eventually were 'canonised' into Islam.
Great stuff.
Yes. This whole Jesus being the only prophet to be born of a virgin is mind-boggling.
@@brotherben4357 And Islam has no answer why Jesus is born from a Virgin. They don't have a reason for this to be in the Quran but the Bible explains why he is born of a Virgin.
Adam and Eve had no father or mother. Wow! They must’ve been the literal children of God! Oh, and let’s not forget Moses splitting the red sea in two! Truly, only God can do that. Moses must be the incarnate of yahweh!
@@rc6289 Jesus was born of a virgin for the same reason Moses was able to turn a staff into a snake and split the sea-to prove his prophethood. You should already know from your Bible that the Egyptians at the time of Moses prided themselves in their magic and ability to work wonders, so Allah simply gave Moses miracles that no magician could pull off, thus proving to the Egyptians and the Children of Israel that he was sent truly sent by God. Jesus lived under the Roman Empire who prided themselves in their knowledge of medicine. But no human, no matter how great their medical knowledge is, can explain a virgin birth or a baby speaking from the cradle etc, neither is there any medicine that can bring the dead back to life, create birds from clay etc. Thus, this was proof that Jesus was sent from God. Simple. To suggest that Jesus had no father and performed miracles and therefore must have been God’s son is a ridiculously simplistic way of looking at things.
Now things get interesting with the Quran-unlike these miracles of the past which you can’t witness for yourself, you can actually witness the miracle of the Quran today. Arabs at the time of Muhammad mastered the art of eloquence and poetry. That was their speciality as a society, but Allah revealed a speech like no other, His own spoken Word which is truly the greatest speech and literature to ever grace the face of the earth-m.th-cam.com/video/EqAVOHrYUfI/w-d-xo.html
Liar.
😂 Just kidding. I completely agree. I, too, hadn't realized before the importance of Virgin birth as the agnowledgement of Jesus' divinity.
For me, being a linguist, the fact that Qur'an is filled with Aramaic words everywhere, combined with the historical fact that Jesus' language, language in which he preached, was Aramaic, is of paramount importance.
Anyway, I'm surprised I haven't yet seen the ever-universal "Liar!" from our Muslim friends here. Could it be that they are starting to comprehend the truth in videos like these? Let's hope so.
Registered for the event (through your link ofc ;) ) - looking forward to it and your analysis afterward with David! Congrats on the US citizenship! You're an asset to any country.
I'm not a fan of country, but I fully support you following your true calling to be an American country music star.
I've watched this interview twice already 😅 Love it! Super interesting questions and answers. I always enjoy hearing Dr. Ehrman's thoughts, even when I disagree.
And it's so unique and speaks to how you think outside of the box, to be an atheist, but still notice and draw out the nuances pertaining to how Islam should line up with Judaism and Christianity. I think because of this, you really did ask Dr. Ehrman questions that are out of the ordinary, and it's so much fun to hear him get to talk about these topics that he knows so much about, but in little bit of a different light.
Great interview, AP!
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@@washimpower2259 We captured some of the women as prisoners, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."
Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
@@takiyaazrin7562 Well I would definitely fk like that. Arabian Desert was very hot back then there were lot of stress. You must understand frustration cant be replaced without slaves in that time. And, Slavery was to help and to trade for right hand purpose.
Nice hadith thanks man.
This video really helped strengthen my faith as a Christian from a carnal POV. So good to hear the historical evidence for the God I know. Even though Bart gets some things wrong about Jesus like the fact that Jesus wanted to rule as a worldly king, I know that Jesus' kingdom still reigns today because of what He did on the cross. As Jesus said flesh gives life to flesh but spirit gives life to spirit - so the kingdom he brought was one of the spirit so that we may have eternal life in Him. Also especially loved the fact that historically Jesus called God Father which is so great!
It shouldnt strenghten it it should weaken it
@@Jonqen Well it didn't, it weakens Islam absolutely, but not Christianity :D
Gets some things wrong? He literally used to believe what you believe, while being a bible scholar, and reading biblical greek and hebrew. He moved on because of the evidence.
@@emilianosintarias7337 He's wrong about Jesus and his disciples not knowing Greek, Jesus being illiterate etc
@@emilianosintarias7337 Every man and woman have different point of view on something. It's normal that someone cant agree with another person even if they both are in the same beliefe.
God, I love Bart. His passion, his laugh and he seems to be an allround great guy!
Well God don't agree with you he does not love Bart and he will burn him for ever bacuse of his athiestic ideas that he believes so have a good time loving a baconed unbeliever
@@rinos7902 No, God does live him, he loves all of us. But, however, he is just as well as loving, so he must and will, will punish the unrepentent. Amen and Amen. .
@@hudsonbartley2493 the God of your imagination
@@leecee7132 nope. He’s real.
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God doesnt love all of Us
He is Just to all of Us
But he love only who worship him without Any partner
I can’t wait to watch the above mentioned debate!
AP, I am christian and what is said in this video is against my believe. What should I do?
- not be offended because I am not a child
- report the video for hate speech
- offer you to separate your head of your body(in this case, where I put your soul?)
- your are not an atheist but a Muslim in disguise to insult christian
- other ideas
Continue your work AP! I love your content. What is the best is your honnesty and you seek for the truth!
Muslims can't have these attitudes because they are taught to hate.
What went against your christian belief exactly?
@@Boris82 I don't really know. But is that important?
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So you just lied in sake of a joke.
Ok gotcha.
@@Boris82 in fact there is many things in what they are against catholic believe. For example for Ehrmann Jesus as brother (not in the meaning of cousin or brother like friend).
I don't remember all of what they said, I saw the video few days ago.
I don't really care if they say things against my believe.
It was only a reference to hate message made by Muslim on ap video
Catholic here. I'm enjoying your channel. God bless both of you, its help me strengthen my faith.
have faith but the right faith when you say God you should have the right concept of God if you believe in Jesus Christ the son of Marry then you cannot worship anybody other then the God almighty the Father in heaven Jesus Christ was a Jew and Jews dont worship Idols he never worshiped anyone except the God of Abraham the only true God who has no equals no partners no family no Joseph the carpenters nothing he says in the Christian Bible in the Book of Isiah i am God and there is nothing else i am God and there is no savior besides me.
@@naeemqureshi5819 then why the coptic church which is build by Jesus apostle in the first century believe in trinity? Sorry but you are wrong
@@naeemqureshi5819 muslim your delusional
@@naeemqureshi5819 sorry bro, I believe in Bible and not you. I believe in Prophets and Apostles, and not you because you are not Prophet or Apostle. My Bible said Jesus is God, Lord, The Almighty (Joh 1:1, 3:13, Rev 1:8), and creator (Joh 1:3, 1 Cor 8:6). When Jesus said I'm your teacher and your Lord / Ho Logos / Ha Adon and The Almighty (John 13:13, Rev 1:8), I fully believe in Him. The only concept of God that make sense to me are the Trinity, its reflect God's image in humanity. While others concept, like tawheed is nonsense and never reflect God's image in humanity and creation.
@@naeemqureshi5819 your teaching is 100% similar to Arianism. Arius teach that the only God is Father in heaven, while Jesus is the adopted son of God the Father. The Church already condemn this heresy as anathema in 325 AD, at the Council of Nicaea. I believe in the magisterium of the Church and the authority of the Church to teach and lead, because Jesus already give this authority in Matthew 16:18. So I will not believe anything from you, because you are not Prophet or Apostle. And your teaching are anathema, and I will not join with heretic like you. Repent and convert to Catholicism, Jesus bless you.
All blessings to you and your family. Keep your videos coming. You’re a great blessing to all humanity
I'm a christian. I like Bart and A.P so much. I've been following these amazing guys for years. Great video.
What a shame.
@@wisdomofislamm Care to expound on your meaning?
@@tintinismybelgian I would love to. Are you christian?
Same, I love these articulate discussions. Definitely will get the juices flowing.
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Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
John 2:19-22 NIV
amen hallelujah!
What about Jesus saying ,. Thus in written that he rise on third day .Where's in that scripture ? Where it was written ?
@@Moodboard39 Look for this passage of John in biblehub and you'll have all the cross reference information regarding what scriptures Jesus and the disciples were refering to....
@@el_killorcure No, that's not prophecy scripture .Jesus was referring to old testament of him dying , being crucified and raise on the third day .The third nowhere to be found.
@@Moodboard39 And I said biblehub addresses exactly that: go to the Pulpit Commentary section of John 2:22.
If you refuse to even look it up once given the exact source, why should I bother with you further?
Mimi Hijab: ELIJAH means God is with us!
Bart Erhman: Dude, stop pretending u are a scholar. Go back to your teacher and tell him ELIJAH means My God is Yahweh!
And what's is the men's of Jesus
Jah is My God EliJah
Eli elements refer source from God...and Jah refer to God, so Elijah bring means God refer to elements of God.
-:so it tajjali partical....(get it?)...Yahweh refer to His the one who lives without we fully understand, He is He (sabatayot) even He create the tajali.
Questions in Christianity
1 - Why does God need a son in the first place?
2 - If the father and son are eternal, when exactly did the son become the son of the father?
3- Which is the most criminal? Eating from the tree that caused the original sin or killing the Son of God, as Christianity claims?
4- What is the relationship between the forgiveness of sins and the sacrifice of the Son of God?
5 - Can God forgive the sins of mankind without shedding innocent blood?
6- What is the Lord's need for incarnation? And if he incarnates, is there a need to believe in the Lord if He stands before you?
Because faith is the belief in something unseen? That is why people do not need to believe in the sun that they see every day
7- Could Jesus, peace be upon him, be a god and a human at the same time?
Can he be alive and dead at the same time? Is it possible to be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time?
Can he be strong and weak at the same time? Can it be self-reliant and self-sufficient at the same time?
8 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself, not once in the Bible, “I am God” or “worship me”?
9 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself that God is three persons in one person?
10 - How can three hypostases be in one person? Nobody will ever understand
11- Why did the father sacrifice his son? Will he redeem people from himself? Isn't he the one who decided to torture them?
12 - Why do Christians believe that their gospels are from God? Isn't it the Gospel of Matthew, John, Mark and Luke?
13 - There are more than 80 gospels, so why were only 4 gospels approved, and who decides that?
14 - Does the Lord allow the writers of the Gospels to put their personal touch on the words of the Lord?
15 - Does the Lord incarnate after breastfeeding go to the bathroom?
16 - If Jesus, peace be upon him, is the word of God, what does it mean to crucify and kill Jesus, peace be upon him? Does this mean that the word of God has been killed?
17 - " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ", Is there a beginning to God?
18 - When the Word became flesh and was sent to the earth, did the God Who Is above become without a word? Or there are other words ?
19 - Can the word speak ? can the word of the word speak ?
Basilides: Jesus cannot be crucified because he's God.
Mohammed: Jesus annot be crucified because...... I say so..
Very nice.
Because Allah is the best of all deceivers
because he will come at the end times and kill anti Christ
You idiot or something?
Don’t Christians believe Jesus will come in end of times???
The poor says:
(Jesus couldn't be crucified) because he will come at the end times and kill anti Christ
Christians:
-Jesus was crucified.
- He will come at the end times and kill anti Christ
(crucifixion doesn't eliminate he will come at the end times and kill anti Christ)
Historians: only two key events are subject to "almost universal assent", namely that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and crucified by order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.
Mohammed (after plagiarizing Basilides):
Jesus cannot be crucified because..... I say so.
Jamal says: "What if the anti-Christ dies and comes back"
Jesus still was crucified by the Romans.
I love Ehrman, such a charismatic and highly educated person who could wreck any Dawa-ist in a laid back way by just by stating out facts from of the Quran, rocking his idiosyncratic laugh while giving the viewers a blast
Same, even though I disagree with him, I have to say, that man is lovely, such a nice and cheerful personality! 😊
Wreck? 😂 You ignorance and arrogance is lovely
Hey, I have a couple of courses by Bart Ehrman from "The Great Courses"! They're excellent. Glad to see him here.
As a Catholic I can't say I believe all this guy says but, he seems to be sincere and pleasant. His classes would be fun.
Farid Responds - Proofs of Prophethood
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Stories Of The Prophets-29~Isa [Jesus] (AS) - Sheikh Mufti mink
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Jesus and Mary conveyed via re-enactments and commentary by Sheikh Muhammad Al Arifi (Saudi Arabia) and Sheikh Hassan Al Husseini (Bahrain)
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( 6 ) And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."
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Nobody reads all that hysterically unorganized nonsense. Try again like you know how to communicate with people.
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Does your disbelief arise from academic research or adherence to dogma.
@Conifer Viveur Academic research is dogma but, I know what you're saying. Personally, my beliefs are some dogmatic others not, like in all aspects of life. For example I can find the speed of light in a book but, I can't personally confirm. As a nurse I can provide the "best-evidenced" care but, I can't do the studies which suggest a course that action.
7:05"...Presumably Simon didn't think it was so funny.." HAHAHA!
I love that Bart Ehrman is chatting to all our apologist friends. He's beginning to feel like part of the gang
Ehrman is just another Ignorant.
I noticed that as well! He's starting to embrace his inner atheism. Next thing we'll have him guest hosting on AXP.
Lovely discussion!
Keep up the great work, AP!
Questions in Christianity
1 - Why does God need a son in the first place?
2 - If the father and son are eternal, when exactly did the son become son of the father?
3- Which is the most criminal ? Eating from the tree that caused the original sin or killing the Son of God, as Christianity claims?
4- What is the relationship between the forgiveness of sins and the sacrifice of the Son of God?
5 - Can God forgive the sins of mankind without shedding innocent blood?
6- What is the Lord's need for incarnation? And if he incarnates, is there a need to believe in the Lord if He stands before you?
Because faith is the belief in something unseen ? That is why people do not need to believe in the sun that they see every day
7- Could Jesus, peace be upon him, be a god and a human at the same time?
Can he be alive and dead at the same time? Is it possible to be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time?
Can he be strong and weak at the same time? Can it be self-reliant and self-sufficient at the same time?
8 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself, not once in the Bible, “I am God” or “worship me”?
9 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself that God is three persons in one person?
10 - How can three hypostases be in one person? Nobody will ever understand
11- Why did the father sacrifice his son? Will he redeem people from himself? Isn't he the one who decided to torture them?
12 - Why do Christians believe that their gospels are from God? Isn't it the Gospel of Matthew, John, Mark and Luke?
13 - There are more than 80 gospels, so why were only 4 gospels approved, and who decides that?
14 - Does the Lord allow the writers of the Gospels to put their personal touch on the words of the Lord?
15 - Does the Lord incarnate after breastfeeding go to the bathroom?
16 - If Jesus, peace be upon him, is the word of God, what does it mean to crucify and kill Jesus, peace be upon him? Does this mean that the word of God has been killed?
17 - " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ", Is there a beginning to God?
18 - When the Word became flesh and was sent to the earth, did the God Who Is above become without a word? Or there are other words ?
19 - Can the word speak ? can word of the word speak ?
20 - If the purpose of sending the word of God to the earth is to make people believe in God, why didn't the Lord send His knowledge, power, greatness and self-sufficiency embodied to the earth in support of His word?
21 - If the Son of God sacrificed himself voluntarily, wouldn't that be suicide? And if he was sacrificed against his will, then what is the need for worshiping a god who can't ward off death on his behalf, let alone the torment on behalf of others?
22 - If the Gospels are from God, why do It contradict each other, and why It are filled with moral, scientific and historical flaws?
23 - If Adam, David, Solomon and Jacob were The sons of God in the Bible, why do you worship Jesus and leave the rest of sons? And if their sonship is metaphorical, why do you worship Jesus?
24 - Jesus said to her, "Do not touch me, for I have not yet gone up to my Father. But go to my brothers and say to them: I ascend to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God” (John 17:20). Does God have a god?
25 - Will the one who enters Paradise see God as one or three ?
Your false god Can not create even his own sperm to have a son with his prostitute muttah girlfriend
What a joke
I wonder how Deceptive O'weal or other quran thumpers will corrupt this video and claim "Bart embarrases AP part 2"
@@rohaizatraub61 lol I literally went to the first video you linked and the top comment says and I quote:
"Not sure if the person who titles this video knows that Bart Ehrman thinks the crucifixion is one of, if not, the most indisputable facts about Jesus."
As Bart Ehrman said in his interview to David Wood about Yusuf Estees: "READ A BOOK"
Excellent episode...thx
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Great video as always AP
Yoo.... Congratulations AP for the Citizenship of the USA 🔥 Keep Pumping with more content 👍
Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
👉👉Mr Ehrman vers 6 clearly show JESUS could write
Very good point.Would have not think about that.Thanks.
Not only that. Jesus was called Rabbi by the Pharisee. And at that time to be acknowledge as a Rabbi by the pharesee, one must complete their religious education up to 30 years old. Jesus was a pharesee. He taugh like a pharesee, He discuss law and theology with pharesee, many of His listener were pharesee.
And it is impossible to be a rabbi without an ability to read and write.
Jesus also read from the scrolls in synagogue (luke 4). To be allowed and able to read the scroll in the synagogue and to teach of the reading, one must be considered competent in their ability to read and have a good undestanding of the text. Meaning, highly educated.
I thought of the same passage when he said that Jesus was illiterate…
Sad to see this man laughing now , knowing that he will be severely judge by God for his unbelief . I am a child of God and I trembling with fear to the tough of living without Christ .. May God protect as all and He may rebuke de spirit of apostasy !🙏🏻😞
It's widely agreed upon among scholars including Bart that that story wasn't originally in John.
Hi Grace Roberts
Great interview AP.
Really AP its amazing that how much effort you put into your videos.I am amazed by you thank you for everything you taught me☺️❤️
JESUS and the Jews were multilingual
▪︎"Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross.
It read: 'JESUS Of NAZARETH, THE KING Of THE JEWS'.
Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek" (John 19:19-20)
▪︎The Gospels were written in Koine Greek being the World's language in the 1st century
The Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (Septuagint) c.200 BC for the many Greek speaking Jews
It is well known that first-century Jerusalem was inhabited by Greek speaking Jews who were at least bilingual. And Jesus most likely was trilingual apart from the ability to read minds.
So the original Gospels were written in Koine Greek and sent throughout the World..
▪︎Jewish culture was heavily influenced by Hellenistic culture, and Koine Greek was used not only for international communication but also as the first language of many Jews. This development was furthered by the fact that the largest Jewish community in the world lived in Ptolemaic Alexandria. (Wikipedia)
Christianity is the fulfilment of the sun God religion not Judaism, according to Judaism christianity is false religion and paganism
@@generaljg4373 do you just copy paste things on comment sections ?🤣🤣 are you that desperate for attention
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Judaism and christianity based on jews stories and the beginning of their followers were jews meanwhile islam which it came late just in 7th century by an arabian and his arab stories too,like the world see it featuring the ritual of black stone.so who is the truth pagan.
@@syantikshinta3779 christianity is just a 6th century ideology its about worshiping a man on a cross and other pagan rituals like kissing the cross and statues its definitely a false religion
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Lord Jesus Christ descended on earth by 1st century and the only ppl who followed HIM was christian on that period.
Your black stone pagan came on 7th century that's why you muslims count the century by saying hijriih every year,that means you muslim just confess the world for 14th centuries NOW.
Congrats on citizenship AP!
Ap Keep on sharing
another great video series that needs to be checked out by AP, Bart and all you good folks. It has to do with the how arabic was developed.
Aramaic Words in the Quran - 3 Minute Quran Study: Episode 6
Great to hear about your citizenship, sorry the country has been so messed up. people like you make it a better place...welcome.
Questions in Christianity
1 - Why does God need a son in the first place?
2 - If the father and son are eternal, when exactly did the son become the son of the father?
3- Which is the most criminal? Eating from the tree that caused the original sin or killing the Son of God, as Christianity claims?
4- What is the relationship between the forgiveness of sins and the sacrifice of the Son of God?
5 - Can God forgive the sins of mankind without shedding innocent blood?
6- What is the Lord's need for incarnation? And if he incarnates, is there a need to believe in the Lord if He stands before you?
Because faith is the belief in something unseen? That is why people do not need to believe in the sun that they see every day
7- Could Jesus, peace be upon him, be a god and a human at the same time?
Can he be alive and dead at the same time? Is it possible to be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time?
Can he be strong and weak at the same time? Can it be self-reliant and self-sufficient at the same time?
8 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself, not once in the Bible, “I am God” or “worship me”?
9 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself that God is three persons in one person?
10 - How can three hypostases be in one person? Nobody will ever understand
11- Why did the father sacrifice his son? Will he redeem people from himself? Isn't he the one who decided to torture them?
12 - Why do Christians believe that their gospels are from God? Isn't it the Gospel of Matthew, John, Mark and Luke?
13 - There are more than 80 gospels, so why were only 4 gospels approved, and who decides that?
14 - Does the Lord allow the writers of the Gospels to put their personal touch on the words of the Lord?
15 - Does the Lord incarnate after breastfeeding go to the bathroom?
16 - If Jesus, peace be upon him, is the word of God, what does it mean to crucify and kill Jesus, peace be upon him? Does this mean that the word of God has been killed?
17 - " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ", Is there a beginning to God?
18 - When the Word became flesh and was sent to the earth, did the God Who Is above become without a word? Or there are other words ?
19 - Can the word speak ? can the word of the word speak ?
Jesus was quoting psalm 22 eli eli Just as he quoted from Isaiah at capernum he is The Eternal Living Word of God on That He Himself is God Almighty Come In The Flesh That he was crucified he died was buried and on the 3rd day he was resurrected to eternal glory he is returning from Heaven soon enough he is never early never lat always right on Time
Questions in Christianity
1 - Why does God need a son in the first place?
2 - If the father and son are eternal, when exactly did the son become the son of the father?
3- Which is the most criminal? Eating from the tree that caused the original sin or killing the Son of God, as Christianity claims?
4- What is the relationship between the forgiveness of sins and the sacrifice of the Son of God?
5 - Can God forgive the sins of mankind without shedding innocent blood?
6- What is the Lord's need for incarnation? And if he incarnates, is there a need to believe in the Lord if He stands before you?
Because faith is the belief in something unseen? That is why people do not need to believe in the sun that they see every day
7- Could Jesus, peace be upon him, be a god and a human at the same time?
Can he be alive and dead at the same time? Is it possible to be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time?
Can he be strong and weak at the same time? Can it be self-reliant and self-sufficient at the same time?
8 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself, not once in the Bible, “I am God” or “worship me”?
9 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself that God is three persons in one person?
10 - How can three hypostases be in one person? Nobody will ever understand
11- Why did the father sacrifice his son? Will he redeem people from himself? Isn't he the one who decided to torture them?
12 - Why do Christians believe that their gospels are from God? Isn't it the Gospel of Matthew, John, Mark and Luke?
13 - There are more than 80 gospels, so why were only 4 gospels approved, and who decides that?
14 - Does the Lord allow the writers of the Gospels to put their personal touch on the words of the Lord?
15 - Does the Lord incarnate after breastfeeding go to the bathroom?
16 - If Jesus, peace be upon him, is the word of God, what does it mean to crucify and kill Jesus, peace be upon him? Does this mean that the word of God has been killed?
17 - " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ", Is there a beginning to God?
18 - When the Word became flesh and was sent to the earth, did the God Who Is above become without a word? Or there are other words ?
19 - Can the word speak ? can the word of the word speak ?
I'm a recent sub and im going through some of your playlists and im so happy to hear that you got your citizenship. Welcome brother!
Thank you very much for such an interesting and educative video with different essential questions.
But when I see the kind of comments people are writing below, it's really shocking and disgusting. I can't believe that there are so many ignorant people in this world who breath the same oxygen as me. Many of them have ideas but without brain.
CONGRATULATIONS APOSTATE PROPHET!!!! GOD BLESS
Are you commaning a vengeful god to change his perfect plan? Are you smarter than god?
@PROVOCATEURSK sorry but you questions don't make sense or do I understand what your point is.
While i cant say i agree with everything Bart says, i enjoy hearing his more studied opinions on subjects like this. 👍
AP basically an atheist who believe that jesus was real and hes a christian, imagine the intelligence of his viewers
Questions in Christianity
1 - Why does God need a son in the first place?
2 - If the father and son are eternal, when exactly did the son become the son of the father?
3- Which is the most criminal? Eating from the tree that caused the original sin or killing the Son of God, as Christianity claims?
4- What is the relationship between the forgiveness of sins and the sacrifice of the Son of God?
5 - Can God forgive the sins of mankind without shedding innocent blood?
6- What is the Lord's need for incarnation? And if he incarnates, is there a need to believe in the Lord if He stands before you?
Because faith is the belief in something unseen? That is why people do not need to believe in the sun that they see every day
7- Could Jesus, peace be upon him, be a god and a human at the same time?
Can he be alive and dead at the same time? Is it possible to be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time?
Can he be strong and weak at the same time? Can it be self-reliant and self-sufficient at the same time?
8 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself, not once in the Bible, “I am God” or “worship me”?
9 - Why did Jesus, peace be upon him, not say himself that God is three persons in one person?
10 - How can three hypostases be in one person? Nobody will ever understand
11- Why did the father sacrifice his son? Will he redeem people from himself? Isn't he the one who decided to torture them?
12 - Why do Christians believe that their gospels are from God? Isn't it the Gospel of Matthew, John, Mark and Luke?
13 - There are more than 80 gospels, so why were only 4 gospels approved, and who decides that?
14 - Does the Lord allow the writers of the Gospels to put their personal touch on the words of the Lord?
15 - Does the Lord incarnate after breastfeeding go to the bathroom?
16 - If Jesus, peace be upon him, is the word of God, what does it mean to crucify and kill Jesus, peace be upon him? Does this mean that the word of God has been killed?
17 - " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ", Is there a beginning to God?
18 - When the Word became flesh and was sent to the earth, did the God Who Is above become without a word? Or there are other words ?
19 - Can the word speak ? can the word of the word speak ?
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12. No Christian believes the Gospels are "from" God. That is a muslim belief. They are called the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John because they were written by them.
13. The reason other books that are called "Gospels" are not included into the Biblical canon is because, for the most part, they cant be authentically traced back to the writer they are accredited to, along with the fact that most of them are based on extra-Biblical Jewish/Christian legends and not the "Good News" (Gospel).
The rest of your questions are either too reliant on semantics or are extremely stupid. Please just consult the actual Bible, or watch some of David Wood's or Islam Critiqued's videos on these subjects.
Also learn to count. There are 19 questions.
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13 questions for muslims:
1. Why does allah need 2 right arms?
2. Why does allah need a "final" prophet?
3. Why does allah need prophets at all if he is all-knowing and all-capable?
4. Why does allah's eternal word spend so much time appeasing muhammed's carnal desires?
5. Why did muhammed need to have sex with a 9-year old?
6. Why does allah need muslims to fight the disbelievers? Cant allah simply do that himself?
7. Why does allah lead people astray?
8. Why does allah punish disbelievers if he's the one who made them disbelieve?
9. What is the purpose of rewarding believers in paradise with virgins and rivers of alcohol if allah simply made them believe?
10. If allah is all-capable, why couldn't he protect his word from corruption like he said he would?
11. If allah's word is eternal, why does so much of it need to be abrogated just so it can fit the western world's modern sociopolitical climate?
12. Why did muhammed reveal Satanic verses?
13. If muhammed is the pattern of conduct, then shouldn't we claim to be prophets, reveal Satanic verses inviting muslims to pray to pagan goddesses, rob caravans, rape children, kill disbelievers, and torture people for money?
@@adamparris8353 10 - Because God did not undertake to preserve the previous books, but left their preservation to the followers of these prophets, who distorted them because of their corruption.
Indeed, It Is We Who Sent Down The Message [ i . e ., The Qur'an ], and Indeed, We Will Be Its Guardian
- Indeed, Those Who Disbelieve in The Message [ i . e ., The Qur'an ] after It Has Come to Them . . . and Indeed, It Is A Mighty Book
Falsehood Cannot Approach It from before It Or from Behind It; [ It Is ] A Revelation from A [ Lord Who Is ] Wise and Praiseworthy
Nothing Is Said to You, [ O Muḥammad ], Except What Was Already Said to The Messengers before You . Indeed, Your Lord Is A Possessor of Forgiveness and A Possessor of Painful Penalty
11 - The universe does not revolve around the western world because they are just human beings whose tendencies and fraternities change over time, so they will never set a fixed human law
But the Qur’an is valid for every time and place
Is there anything specific that you see that does not fit with Western society? And is the problem in the Qur'an or in Western society? And has there been a referendum or consensus on what you say in the name of Western society?
12 - None
And We Did Not Send before You Any Messenger Or Prophet Except That When He Spoke [Or Recited], Satan Threw into It [Some Misunderstanding] But Allāh Abolishes That Which Satan Throws In; Then Allāh Makes Precise His Verses . and Allāh Is Knowing and Wise
[ That Is ] So He May Make What Satan Throws in [ i . e ., Asserts ] A Trial for Those Within Whose Hearts Is Disease and Those Hard of Heart . and Indeed, The Wrongdoers Are in Extreme Dissension
And So Those Who Were Given Knowledge May Know That It Is The Truth from Your Lord and [ Therefore ] Believe in It, and their Hearts Humbly Submit to It . and Indeed Is Allāh The Guide of Those Who Have Believed to A Straight Path
13 - Is there anything in the Qur’an or authentic hadiths that calls for such injustice as you claim?
Please give Islamic sources
- Indeed, Allāh Orders Justice and Good Conduct and Giving [ Help ] to Relatives and Forbids Immorality and Bad Conduct and Oppression . He Admonishes You That Perhaps You Will Be Reminded
And Fulfill The Covenant of Allāh When You Have Taken It, [ O Believers ], and Do Not Break Oaths after Their Confirmation While You Have Made Allāh, over You, A Security [i . e ., Witness ] . Indeed, Allāh Knows What You Do
- Say, " Come, I Will Recite What Your Lord Has Prohibited to You . [ He Commands ] That You Not Associate Anything with Him, and to Parents, Good Treatment, and Do Not Kill Your Children Out of Poverty; You and Them . and Do Not Approach Immoralities - What Is Apparent of Them and What Is Concealed . and Do Not Kill The Soul Which Allāh Has Forbidden [ to Be Killed ] Except by [ Legal ] Right . This Has He Instructed You That You May Use Reason.”
And Do Not Approach The Orphan's Property Except in A Way That Is Best [i. e ., Intending Improvement] Until He Reaches Maturity. and Give Full Measure and Weight in Justice . We Do Not Charge Any Soul Except [ with That Within ] Its Capacity . and When You Speak [ i . e ., Testify ], Be Just, Even If [ It Concerns ] A Near Relative . and The Covenant of Allāh Fulfill . This Has He Instructed You That You May Remember
- I hope that I answered your questions even though you are not familiar with Islam recently, as you are just quoting from others
Please answer my previous questions
Thanks Dr. Bart and Thanks AP
I would love to take credit for the idea of using Saajid as the closer for your videos...
That said, it seems more realistic to assume you had already thought of it before i commented saying you should do that.
Either way it's awesome to see you actually doing that.
As a linguist, for me, the latest historical evidence of the great number of Aramaiac words in the Qur'an, combined with the historical fact that Jesus' mother tongue and language in which he preached was Aramaiac, is of enormous importance.
Christianity influenced by paganism like the trinity and celebrating the birth of the sun God mithra and people bowdown to the Pope, definitely false religion
@@generaljg4373 The topic here was - the origins of Islam. What you said is opening a new topic, and an interesting one, I agree. But, nothing you said is the reply to what I said. Is it because you agree?
@@generaljg4373 wth there is really something wrong with you bro go do something else most of what you say is dumb and cant even back it up you're just embarassing yourself here
@@generaljg4373 Mithras was not a sun God. The Roman sun God was Sol Invictus.
@@generaljg4373 what you talking about🤣listen smart arse u should know that paganism has influence on everything. Going around kaba is pagan. Kissing the lack stone si also pagan. Lah is one of pagan gods which became il-lah. So your shit doesnt fit anywhere
just want to flag that thing about the Sabbath. The weekly Sabbath is friday evening to saturday as he mentioned, but there are also festival specific Sabbaths. At the time of Jesus's death, which was on the day of Passover, the next day of the Passover is always a Sabbath day, regardless of whether it is Saturday. The reason for that is the Passover is immediately followed by the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is 7 days long, the first day and the last day is a day of rest. So it is NOT from the Bible that Jesus died on Friday.
Loved the new ending.
I love your humor!
If course we have evidence: 1. the writings of his apostles 2. Josephus Flavius, and Cornelius Tacitus, historians in the time of Jesus. 3. Eye accounts and witnesses. And just the fact that Rome later became the center of Christianity and so many more!
Christianity is just a copy of Judaism with trinity added to god and other pagan rituals like celebrating the sun God religion and kissing the cross and pagan statues in the church
@@generaljg4373 stop the cap🧢🧢
@@generaljg4373 thats catholism with all the pagan symbols and rituals. In christianity there is none of that stuff
@@MrIrrepressible your wrong all evidence shows that christianity is heavily influenced by the sun God religion and other pagan rituals like Christmas the trinity and bowdown to the Pope because hes holly btw
@@generaljg4373 show me the office of pope in the bible.
19:50 I agree with Bart that no one had the idea of a messiah who has to dies for our sins, but to say that Christians invented the idea is just completely false. Who does he think the Servant is in Isaiah 53? It’s Jesus Christ!
If Bart believes it,why he became an atheist.
There is such a belief in Judiasm. The Messiah could be seen as either a spiritual leader or an actual royal leader that would physically deliver Isreal. Isaiah can be read both ways.
Congratulations dear brother
Congratulations AP
I have read Bart Ehrman's books, owing to my interest in the theological sub-discipline of Christology (the study of what the Church has taught about Jesus of Nazareth), which attempts to account for how the 'Teacher' became the 'taught'; or the 'Preacher' became the 'one-who-is-preached'. Regardless of how lengthy and deep this debate will be, it will leave us with the same mystery, as when human beings discuss Theodicy. Bart will know that the earliest treasured 'Christian' writings were the genuine letters of Paul to the various churches: not the Gospels. Paul had his Damascene experience, probably, around 5-10 years after the crucifixion: and so would have been speaking to eye-witnesses, and those who knew eye-witnesses. Richard Bauckham is good on this in his magisterial 'Jesus and the Eye-Witnesses'. However, in addition to Paul's letters of encouragement, there were also copious treasured memories (written and oral) to which we attach the the Greek term, 'pericopes'. Quite what led to such memories being collated and redacted into Gospels is also a mystery; but may have had something to do with the failure of the 'parousia' to materialise, as predicted by Jesus: and the recognition, by the primitive Church, that it needed to collate that whic it believed about Jesus of Nazareth. However, what should be included in the collation took around three hndred years of discussion and debate. Unfortunately, during that debate, the Church appears to have lost sight of the charismatic young male Jew, who persuaded good men to drop everything and follow him, in favour of the 'Christos Pantokrator' (found in cathedral and basilica apses throughout the Christian world) who could justify the existing 'hierarchies' within society. Out went the poor man: and in came the Ruler-of-the-Cosmos! Today's Church Universal HAS to recover that young man in whom the primitive Church believed and trusted. Today's equivalent is to turn Jesus of Nazareth into an 'Identity Politician': this is the Gospel of the Bishops of the Church of England, today!
There was never a set time for the second coming. In fact, the Bible states that man kind will doubt his coming stating that all things have continued the way they have since the forefathers.
@@georgesimos4318 Thank you George. Exactly!
Hank Hanegraaf would be like the best man to talk to about Christianity he was once Protestant and converted to Orthodox Christianity ☦️📿
I like your hat, AP. Gratz and welcome.
The most amazing part of AP's video is the very last part of it.
2:08
"Jesus Resurrection is the foundation of Christianity. If Jesus hadn't been raised from the dead, you wouldn't have Christianity... And there are over two billion people who worship Jesus in the world today." - Bart Ehrman, forgetting which argument he's trying to make.
Love your channel, AP.
@Jamal Ramadan their were thousands of witnesses to this, and most of the disciples died for what they did not just believe, but saw with their own eyes. You cannot prove he did not, but historically there is enough evidence to suggest it did happen
@Jamal Ramadan Nor has anyone been able to prove He didn't come back to life. We do have testimony of many people seeing HIm after His resurrection.
Bart's ideas about what Jesus himself thought seem to align well with Hyam Maccoby's _Revolution In Judea: Jesus And The Jewish Resistance._
Good video
Correction: Most Christians believe that John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah. Not that Jesus was Elijah. Not that it makes much difference but anyway.
The impression I get from number 4, is that broadly speaking if someone is a good Muslim (as Muslims believe Jesus was) then god will reward them in life. The idea of Jesus being one of the greatest Muslims ever only to die a horrible death counters the notion that god provides for good Muslims, thus he couldn’t have been crucified
However, Muslims believe Muhammad was the Seal of the Prophets (most even consider him greater than Jesus even though Jesus was sinless to them and Muhammad was not) and still they believe he was poisoned and suffered at death. Also, this picture portrays God as a deceiver , which is a form of lying, so you end up throwing out the baby with the bath water.
John's gospel recorded what Jesus said to some disciples who came to him and asked him questions. His response was.. "Come n see..."
It's an invitation to see for themselves where he lived and what he did". It is a crucial moment n a definite gesture that Jesus allowed anyone to form relationship with him n his disciples. To respond we need both the intellectual n spiritual ability to make a mature decision. God doesn't compromise but definitely God is perfect to be loving, patient n faithful beyond humans' nature n comprehension. He is waiting n working in our lives but we need to be awaken in spirit to accept.
God is Spirit n hence its our spirits that communicate n relate to God.
@@rigo833 Yes as Muslims we believe that Muhammed peace be upon him was the seal of all prophets and the final messenger , but why ? Jesus for example who just came before Muhammed peace be upon him was only sent to the lost sheep of Isreal . in other words if you are not a Jew then you are only a gentile according to Jesus and Jesus was not sent for you and accordingly did all prophets But Muhammed peace be upon who was sent to all mankind , that's the difference , we love Jesus being as one of the mightiest messengers , we don't make any difference between them , secondly it is obligatory to correct you when you make a mistake , who said Muhammed was not sinless ?? Is that a subjective opinion or you have an evidence for that ? as Muslims we believe all prophets are sinless .. another misconception about Islam, where do Muslims say that Jesus was poisoned and suffered at death ? can you provide an evidence for that ?? after you clarify the above questions , we can put Quran and Bible into test and see which one is the word of god and i will give evidences from your book .
@@AlgeriaHere Yeah and the Bible will come on top lol
@@Ziiphyr For now Quran is on top .. unless you prove your book is correct .. lol
If Jesus was a Muslim then why do muslims do not believe these words He spoke. He said in John 18:37. Thou sayest that I am a king to this end was I Born and for this cause came I into the world that I should bear witness unto the truth everyone that is of the truth heareth my voice. This is why the claim of Jesus being a Muslim is false because Mohammed never said he heard the voice of Jesus which means he is not of the truth.
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That last question was spot on! Paired with a perfectly fit answer.
I wonder if Bart doubts the answers that he answered with “I think..” Does he think about what it could mean if he’s incorrect? If Jesus and the disciples spoke Hebrew and or Greek, if Jesus could write? What does that mean for him? Does he doubt his doubts?
Bart Erthman just another skeptic man to his doubts, thats why he deny what he even dont know about historical of Jesus
In my opinion, saying "I think" shows humility. It would be arrogant for someone to say they know with 100% certainty of non-trivial events that happened thousands of years ago. If one is a Christian, they should preface their thoughts with "I believe..." because that is a true statement, one can believe and one can think something, but that is not the same as claiming something 100% happened
@@blake4590 Plus, he's acknowledging that there is nuance and diversity of views among the scholarship on some of these points, so it is important to hear from multiple sources.
It is in Irenaeus’ account of Basilides that we first find views parallel with the Qur’an’s account of the crucifixion of Jesus:
“Wherefore he [Jesus] did not himself suffer death, but Simon, a certain man of Cyrene, being compelled, bore the cross in his stead; so that the latter being transfigured by him, that he might be thought to be Jesus, was crucified, through ignorance and error, while Jesus himself received the form of Simon,
and, standing by, laughed at them...he transfigured himself as he pleased, and thus ascended to Him who had sent him.”
The parallels are found in Sura 4:157-158 of the Qur’an:
“And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed
the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of God.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him [Jesus] to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they
did not kill him, for certain. 158. No! God raised him [Jesus] up to himself and God is mighty and wise.”
If Bart took the time to read it and understand it , he will be convinced, instead listening of wasting his time with that Joke.
@@youmnaification What do you mean ?
Messiah would be ctucified with criminals. ....Isaiah 53 : 12 OT.... NT
Matthew 27 : 38 n Mark 15 : 27 - 28
Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. OT , Isaiah 53 : 5 - 12 , NT Romans 5 : 6 - 8
Yup sounds like plagiarism to me. Lol
Sound like plagirism lol 🤣
Bro! Congratulations on your citizenship!!! Love the hat! I think Randy Savage might have worn it once.... Ahahahahaha!!! Dizzle, te salés.... That's freaking funny!!!
Bless you.
May Lucifer watch you every day and interfere with your life.
Sounds rude when someone forces their master into your life, doesn´t it?
Congratulations on your citizenship!
That's a big thing, I doubt most Americans could pass that test.
Isa is not jesus!!!!!!!!!! Adonai Elohim (YHVH) is not allah swt!!!!!!!!
How was a guy who didn't exist a member of a religion that wouldn't be invented until 6 centuries after he died?
Love this guy
Bart has no right to say Jesus couldn’t write, he could read, he read in the Temple and he also impressed the Rabbis as a boy of twelve years when he was reading and explaining the scriptures to them. As for proof he could write, he wrote on the ground while being questioned by the Pharisees.
Jesus had the ability to both read and write. These abilities were demonstrated in the New Testament. In a synagogue in Nazareth He opened the scroll of the prophet Isaiah and read from a chosen part. In the story of the woman taken in adultery we find Jesus writing something on the ground that caused the religious leaders to leave Him and the woman alone.
Jesus was clearly taught the scriptures. And it was a mandate for a male Jew education to read and write. He’s probably saying this because Jesus didn’t write anything in the New Testament or produced any known written work when Jesus clearly stated to not add or take away from scriptures
@@torisantiago9176 l agree. Jesus wrote the New Testament by the Holy Spirit in possession of the Disciples devoted and possessed by God. But Jesus in human form didn’t write the Gospels. Jesus was as a human, highly intelligent and he did have an education of morality and he could read fluently so of course he could write. This idea that Jesus was living in poverty and of ignorance in education, writing, is based on the belief that non wealthy people had no schooling. We get the same attitude delivered as revelation and knowledge that suggests Mary was 12 year old when she gave birth to Jesus because they say poor girls were married very young in those times. Yet we know that the Gospels do not state Mary’s age, and we know that Mary was fully mature and able to give birth, indicating a mature width of pelvis. We also note what Mary said to the Angel Gabriel, and she replied “ how can l get pregnant, l know not a man”. Mary knew the meaning of those words, her words! And those are not the words of a child! Mary also said “ let this be so, as l am a servant of God”. These were not the words of a child! Yet, the wicked imply that Mary was a child! The wicked will cry in distress and regret before God, for life is short in this World.
The adultery verses related to the woman are regarded as interpolation
@@Stardust475 debatable...
So you agree that women who had sex before marriage should be stoned as your god commands? You should be on FBI watchlist.
Congratulations, welcome to the land of the free, the home of the brave mouth tribe!
P..s. that would make perfect "sense" that the "good news" was a proclamation about a war and the victor, etc. Also, referring to God as "sire" (dad) was and still is quite common for those of the Hebrew Christian faith.
P.s.s. Ehrman uses quite a few words to basically say, "Jesus probably thought he himself was Israel's pop icon of the conquering messiah, as opposed to the "ram/lamb in the thicket messiah".... To which Israel is still waiting for that moshaich that Ehrman describes.
P.s.s.s. Islam now of course has the moshiach returning along with the great prophet/mahdi (currently in occultation) which is a further deviation from both pop icon conquering messiah vs. Isaiah's depiction/ram in the thicket messiah.
How did the British aquire the free land you speak of?
This is a man to man discussion, unlike the previous one with Ali Dawah...
Sure hope you can interview with Dr. Mike Licona to get a balance.
Bart really blew it on the Language question. Modern Scholarship says Jews spoke Hebrew till after the temple and expulsion. Speaking Aramaic is old belief.
He's not the scholar people think he is. Both Aramaic and Hebrew were used interchangeably during the late Second Temple period, and many Jews did know Greek, it was the link language between Jews and non-Jews. Most of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which cover the same period, are in Hebrew and are not just copies of the Hebrew Bible, but also represent Jewish sectarian literature.
I agree he blew that one. I want to add that I have a hard time believing with 300 years of Hellenization that they didn't understand Greek. I think it is pretty arrogant to assume the education level of ancient people. Good chance they knew more than we think they did.
@@raphaelalbert8110 agreed ehrman is quite Overrated
@@raphaelalbert8110 Raphael also among the dead sea scrolls there is this commentary scroll called "4q246" and this is written in Aramaic so I suppose both Hebrew and Aramaic were used simultaneously since they are very similar languages like Italian and Spanish.
There are several Aramaic quotes attributed to Jesus which the New Testament authors transliterate: "talitha koum", "ephphatha", "raka" and "eli, eli, lema sabachthani". These are unmistakably Aramaic, not Hebrew. He might have known some Hebrew too, though, but he wouldn't have had much use for it. "Gehenna" and the name "Maria" also give away that Jesus' contemporary Jews were speaking Aramaic, as the final -m in both of these words would be preserved in Hebrew.
This is to refute Bart D. Ehrman on his belief that Jesus thought he was going to be a king on earth then.
Jesus ran away when he knew the people wanted to make him a king.
Later he said his kingdom was not of this earth.
True
45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, if he truly wanted political power then it would be evidently so. But it’s not, I don’t think we should assume this based on the Jewish version of Messiah for the nation of Israel.
Jesus said that his kingdom is from another place not of this world. Bart ehrman is wrong in this case.
So jesus still wants to be a king , just king of the sky and space and not earth .
Tq to open my eye and brain....
To be fair, AP now has to invite Dr. Mike Licona for an interview regarding his perspective concerning the historical Jesus before the debate.
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At the end, are you guys joking about Paulogia or the Apostle Paul? 🤔 It's funny either way! I just want to get it 😅
Initially I was joking about Paulogia, but then I realized it sounds like I'm joking about Paul, so I just went with it. I still don't know which Paul Bart Ehrman was thinking of, but it's funny either way as you say. Lol
Ehrman just destroy the whole Islamic historical claim.
Glad to see Ehrman corrected AP on the virgin birth. It's a common atheist talking point that virgin births were a common story for divine beings, and that Christianity stole it, and that's not what happened at all.
The Christian virgin birth is unique.
The Christian virgin birth notion is only a "refinement" of far older fairytales about gods consorting with earthly girls to produce demigods.
Were do we have the accounts that virgin births were common story for divine beings and Christianity stole it?
Could you please provide the evidence? I would love to inform myself
@@carloswater7 My point, and Ehrman's, is that we actually don't have common stories of virgin births. We have stories of gods having sex with women and creating demi-gods, but that's not what happened in the incarnation.
It's simply an uninformed atheist talking point that there are loads of virgin birth stories in antiquity and that's just not true. And it was nice to see Ehrman correct AP on that point.
@@carloswater7 Unbelievers often argued that 'Horus' the egyptian God was born of a virgin. But there is no evidence from the egyptian source to back this up.
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27:00 I do agree there are teese 2 different gospels that seem to be very different (1) Jesus saying repent and enter the kingdom (2) Paul saying the gospel is how Jesus died and rose again
It would be very interesting to do a social study of Islamic use, and misuse, of secular higher criticism. In the case of Dr. Bart Ehrman, Muslim use of his works seems to have begun in 2009-2010, particularly with speakers in the West, but has now seems largely petered away.
Congratulations AP I'm happy for you and proud to call you in America
Wow. A debate that wont devolve into a one-sided screaming and insult fest! I'm so there. 8)
A debate only happens between two honest people.
I believe both of these people are honest people. One of them is going to have to be wrong, but at least both of them are honest.
Second thing to flag up is that people did ask whether Jesus was Elijah but the scripture clearly points to John the Baptist being Elijah as the angel told Zechariah, John's father.
Jesus was a ancient hippy who loved hash cookies and sold love beads at the
market in Nazeras.
John 1:1 came to life, lifted up from the Bible into my heart.
That was my born-again moment, have been a born-again christian since 2002 and still walking in the Truth til today.
Whatever people say, my faith in Jesus is built on a rock.
1+1+1=1 and marry gave birth to god yea christianity is false religion for sure
@@generaljg4373 It's Mary.... since you can't even get that much right you probably ain't worth the energy...
@@generaljg4373 LOL….godless people are people who are just deniers of accountabilty of their actions. They think that they won’t face judgement. Keep denying and we christans will keep believing. Enjoy your satanic life.
@@generaljg4373 Your atheism doesn’t change the fact that Jesus Christ is real. But being the loving God he is, Jesus Christ still loves you more than you’ll ever know. HE is a forgiving God. When you are down, just get down on your knees and ask Jesus for help and he’ll be there.
@@createinmeacleanheartohgod6871
Have you critically evaluated your religion? I was a hard core Christian for decades, and then began to question the Bible. Even the briefest evaluation shows inconsistencies, outright lies, misogeny, genocide, even giving rules for slavery.
Look for yourself...
Hell didn't even exist until the New Testament, when "ya boy Jesus meek and mild" shows up on scene.
Love your work, even though I do not agree with some of the things Bart Ehrman says for obvious reason. But it is very important for Muslims to understand Bart Ehrman's view so they do not keep misinterpreting him. Thanks a lot
I think that’s my main takeaway from this conversation between Muslims and Bart ehrman. They go to quote him to try and shoot down Christianity but misrepresent his conclusions and main points which would often easily be used against their religion all the same. Disagree with anyone all you want but make sure you’re at least properly understanding and responding to what they’re actually saying.
So, if I understand your comment correctly, you would like Muslims to listen to Bart Ehrman and change their minds about their beliefs because he as a historian delivers the facts. But on the other hand, as a (probably) Christian, you will keep your beliefs even if Bart Ehrman also contradicts yours. Did I understand that correctly?
@@godbyelebenohnegott If you please read again my comment, I did not say Muslims to listen to Mr. Ehrman and change their beliefs. I simply do not care about that, as you might be the same. I just stated Muslims to understand his views and not misquoate him. I have also mentioned that I do not agree with some of the things he says with due respect, it seems you might have missed that.
It is you Muslims uses him to question The Bible, so you better study him better before you start quoting him. This video might be a good start. cheers
@@godbyelebenohnegott no, nobody has to fully agree with him or anybody else, but they often misrepresent what he is saying to fit them. If you disagree with someone that’s fine but make sure you’re disagreeing with what they’re actually saying.
@@rodriguesnoel I am not a Muslim, never was. I don't believe in any god. I am curious. On which points to you disagree with Bart Ehrman?
Hi Apostate Prophet can I ask permission to translate this video into Indonesian?
@AP thanks for a great Interview. You look a bit tired. Too much study I guess. Make sure you get some exercise. Also praying you find the Lord.