This was fantastic. In summary: 1. Bart Ehrman does not agree with Islam. 2. It is implausible that Jesus "brought" a scripture as the Quran claims. 3. The New Testament is quite accurate with additions, not corruptions. 4. Apocryphal stories found in the Quran are fabrications. 5. Jesus was definitely crucified. 6. Early Christians were not "Muslims," they worshiped Jesus. 7. Jesus was always known as the Son of God in a sense. 8. The 4 Gospels are the most authentic Gospels. 9. Paul's Undisputed Epistles are definitely authentic. 10. The Gospels partially agree but also disagree with the Quran. 11. Christians until the 7th century believed in Jesus as God and/or Son of God. 12. Jesus definitely did not predict Muhammad. 13. Jesus and Muhammad are hard to compare. *Muslims should stop misusing Bart Ehrman to validate their own beliefs. He doesn't agree with them at all.* To hear more from Bart Ehrman's studies, sign up for his upcoming seminar before November 28th at: www.bartdehrman.com/apostatechristmas
@Isaac13 Abraham aint kabaa also used for pagan in pre islamic belief lmao also why is your heaven looks like porn... Sorry but your prophet is a warlord like JP said
@Jamal Ramadan He did but a certain mr.muhammad deceived many into his lies who we often find commenting on random TH-cam vedios. The actual joke is they think their comments are smart and rational.
@Jamal Ramadan Jesus came not to destroy, but to save. He chooses to exercise his omniscience, but dont worry the same Jesus that appeared to Abraham and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is the same Jesus who says hes coming back to deal retribution to them that know not God
7:16, Jesus was a practising Jew who at the age of 12 would need to go to the synagogue and read / recite Scripture from the scrolls, how could he be illiterate? Jewish tradition has such an emphasis on the written word and scriptures.
@@battlerushiromiya651 yes, but reading the Tanakh was a big part of Jewish culture. It was more common that children would be taught by their parents also. It definitely would have been mentioned by many people were he illiterate, but based on zero evidence the interviewee came to a weird conclusion.
@@katebee945 well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@battlerushiromiya651 . It seems that you are one of those who follow Bart Ehrman blindly. We Christians do not need Bart Ehrman to give us wrong information about our Lord Jesus Christ when we have reliable eye witnesses' account in the gospel and preceding prophecies in the old testament. It's atheists and muslims that need him.It is stupidity for any sensible person to leave eyewitnesses' account and start following a man who was born few years ago but ended studying to misinform people for reasons best known to him. You can be gullible to whatever Bart Ehrman says but he can't say some of these things in midst of sincere Bible scholars and Christians who know their Bible. If someone tells you that Jesus Christ the miracle worker could not read, should you believe in the first case? A smart person will not believe that but look for evidences for that but unfortunately, Bart Ehrman is A FAKE SCHOLAR and I will show you in my next post evidences that Jesus Christ was literate( it's miraculous) but because Bart Ehrman is an agnostic, he deliberately distorts the Bible. I feel worried when atheists and muslims go after this guy for information on the Bible when the account in the gospel are those of eye witnesses.
The Old Testament and the epistles are enough to point me in the direction of Jesus as the Messiah and affirm the Christian view of what the Messiah would and will accomplish. The Gospels are a beautiful portrait of the Lord ,what he did, and his teachings. I’m glad we have them.
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@Isaac13 Abraham Just as it is much more hilarious when you muslims and your arab prophet claim to know Christ better than jews & christians themselves.
@Isaac13 Abraham People like you rejected your own 2nd temple period Biblical Judaism of which Christianity is a continuation of in the 2nd century AD and Rabbinic Judaism and Islam are kissing cousins of counterfeit interpretations of the Hebrew Bible that gave (The Two Powers of Heaven by Alan Segal ) theology that Jesus and the Apostles including Paul taught. Dr.Michael S.Heiser videos explains this Jewish theology.
@Isaac13 Abraham The letter to the Hebrews might contradict your assumption. The writings of the 4 Gospels were dates to at the latest 85 years after Christ. The writings of the next most textually supported ancient writing after the Bible was Homer’s Iliad. Many thousands of Christian scripture copies from within the first 100 years, with mainly “spelling” errors as Dr BE said in video. The Iliad had a little over 600 copies, but written centuries later. You’re right Hebrew scriptures were very accurately transcribed. Christians have never argued against that.
@Isaac13 Abraham the first Christians were Jews it’s not as if gentiles came upon it and reinterpreted it. Many Christians learn Hebrew for the sole reason of understanding scripture better. It’s somewhat ridiculous that you think only Jews can understand the scripture. Which verses are claiming have been changed?
I disagree with the view that Jesus did not expect to be crucified. The 'Prof' said earlier that the first 3 Gospels especially were very reliable. If this is so, then Jesus knew He would be crucified. He mentioned it to His disciples before His arrest that led to His crucifixion.
Thank you AP to invite Prof. Bart Ehrman who end up confirming the Muslim’s visions of that story of Jesus PBUH. Ladies and gentlemen please listen to AP video Islam vs. Christianity on Jesus | Dr. Bart Ehrman Speaks to Apostate Prophet Ha ..ha .....Poor AP was trying hard to put words in Bart's mouth .. to hurt Islam ... but all fired back on him ...poor guy. In min 4:00 Bart end up to confirm the Quran is better book than Gospels In min 18 &26 Jesus was prophet In min 19:00 Bart removed the divinity of Jesus just because called people called him Son of God . In min 25 Bart confirms the diversity of early Christianity and conflicts people went through to come up with the Christian doctoring.
@@entertaininformmedia7836 Just go the mins above you will see it very clearly. Also Bart said that Jesus never tough that he gona be killed not sure what min , but it is there. Poor AP was almost crying during the interview.... i do not blame him .
He didn’t know if he could read he read in the book of Isaiah and when correcting the Pharisees he would tell them didn’t you read in the scriptures.This doctor needs a doctor
well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@AntiChrxzt "Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families" You know, being among top 10% is not so awesome. Presumably nowadays ability to write a few lines of code in any script or programming language would be a more arcane knowledge. "The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as" Gifted kid that needed to be given a single chance? I find your faith in formal education disturbing... :D :D :D
Bart Ehrman: Disciples never said Jesus pre-existed. Apostle Peter: "He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you." (1 Peter 1:20)
@@streetsdisciple0014 Maybe you, someone born 2000 years later could tell that to persecuted fathers of old who were alive with the apostle Peter in the 1st century.
Remember there was a time when the "experts" did not think Nazareth existed until they found it and also most evidence is coming out that more people could read and write
Also, the very existence of a historical Jesus was heavily contested not too many years ago, while today is a pretty established fact among scholars. Our understanding changes over time, but any new finding just confirms the reliability of the Biblical narrative.
@Jamal Ramadan no. I don't trust "experts". I remember when Elon Musk was struggling with SpaceX and the so called "experts" say specex was going to free fall alongside Tesla. Today we know where SpaceX is.
I would put a hard stop to the writing of all the gospels at 70 AD. the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem is such a big event to be missed by any writer of the gospel but all the writers of the new testament seem to be unaware of this big event. If Jesus died in this 30s then gospels at most have to be written 40 years after Jesus. Bart assertions cannot be reasonable supported
Exactly! None of the gospels refer to the Temple destruction. This means they had to be written before. Also Jesus could read. So could a Matthew ( tax collector).
Its good to hear, because I used to say the exact argument. - the destruction of the temple was like the holocaust of the time, it is impossible to not to be mentioned - moreover Jesus is prophesizing about it several times, so it would make sense that the writers had made it clear, by pointing to the historical event, it would be a necessity almost
@@nemgyuri such an event would be too tempting to ignore, however, all the writers seem completely obvious to this event. Are not you exaggerating a bit about the destruction of the temple you said Jesus prophesy about "several times" it is only mentioned in Mark ( ch 13) and only in one verse with the wider context of the last days? The way the disciples behave was like if they did not really believe Jesus. I would hardly call it several times. such was such a dramatic event it not only destroyed the temple but emptied Jerusalem of all Jews and destroyed many places
@@midnightwatchman1 I was strengthening your point, I dont see why you see it contradicting, Jesus said He will destroy the temple and rebuild it, He prophesized about the temple in the olivet discourse as well. These statements would have been linked to the destruction of the temple, if the gospels were written after it.
Your forgetting its an interview, not a debate, so why would mohammed hijab have disappointment in simply an interview on his thought process and beliefs. As a muslim i do quote him ill admit, but i also quote peter j williams whose also a christian to be fair during debates i have. There is no disappointment, we are all just seeking the truth, we don’t care about the ego boost of being right or wrong, we simply want the truth and to go to heaven, and avoid hell at all costs. Thats all. You make it a personal issue more than an ideological/theological issue. Stop pointing fingers and seek truth yourself, don’t wanna see anyone going to hell for a lack of common sense. Im not forcing you or anything to convert, im simply saying go do research with no bias, listen to multiple scholars of each religion and belief to build up a proper consensus. At the end of the day, your the one in charge of your fate, no one else.
Mr. Ehrman is incorrect in saying that the Quran has been accurately copied. There are no ancient qurans that agree with the Hafs quran, and there still exist today multiple variations of the quran.
Erhaman is an atheists. He turned away from Christianity because he could not reconcile the suffering in the world with the existence of a loving g God. It is not clear why he says that Jesus' followers did not regard him as God. In his time, the apostles heard God declare him as son of God and Thomas and Peter regarded and confessed him as God.
@@luke2346luke That's a really weak argument, and Bart knows it. The passage in question is from Luke, which Bart believes does contain historical information. He's basing his claim that Jesus was illiterate on the fact that Nazareth was a very small settlement and the fact that most people at the time couldn't read and write.
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue Luke 4:14-22 Esv Jesus Begins His Ministry 14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me, because he has anointed me to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor. (AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind, (AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
26:31 bert erhman said jesus wasn't know he will be crucified = Wrong. Isaiah wrote prophecies about the suffering of Jesus, also Jesus was came as a king riding a donkey, but he was rejected and was killed by the will of most jewish
@UCgs6DewwMz8YOLjmloTsR4Q actually His Hebrew name is Yeshua meaning "My (the LORD'S) salvation" and whenever the LORD's salvation is mentioned in scripture we see the Hebrew word - Yeshua or equivalent. So yeah, one can argue that the name Jesus (the Greek equivalent) is mentioned in the Old Testament.
More Dore Do you even bother to read how Judaism views Isaiah prophesies? The fact you are sure that it is about Jesus is comparable to the fact Muslims claiming Isaiah mentions Muhammad.
@@hyawill8944 give me one person name who already fullfiled isaiah prophecies in isaiah 53. FYI, isaiah 53 are the most avoided chapter by jewish religious leader, because the story in there telling about Jesus Christ, my God, crucifixion and suffering. Many people doubt Jesus Christ without even trying to reach Him through pray with faith
@@moredore5876 I won't give you one person. Because it doesn't have to be about one person. According to Jewish traditions it speaks about the nation, the Israel.
The Quran has NOT been “faithfully copied” at all, and it was edited and changed all the way until it was standardized in 1924! The Quran is NOT superior in any way to any religious text, let alone the Bible. The Topkapi and Samarkand Qurans who have THOUSANDS of differences from the current 1924 version are two of many examples that prove this.
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19:20 in Philippines 2 Paul quotes from an early Christian hymn which says that Jesus preexisted as God but took on the form of a servant. To say the deity of Christ is something that formed over time is an assertion without any evidence.
@@ApostateProphet Just saw you interviewing Ert Bartman the most confused christian turned into an atheist because of a lots of readings. Because of the presence of Satan and his demons in human life the real truth of Christianity and who is Jesus got distorted. In the 2nd century wrong belief went out from certain people that resulted in 2 breakup churches. One kept the faith and the other manufactured gossip that resulted in Catholicism and then the islam. Catholicism and Islam is the same thing that put forth lies by force.And that resulted in your problem and ert bartman's problem to be confused. Why then muhammad called Jesus the Kalam (Paigam of God) or kalimatullah. And also RoohAllah meaning the Eternal life of God? That makes him God!!! Then in another place muhammad wrote that Jesus is just a paigambar and not Paigam or kalam or message of God. Messenger and message are 2 different things and separate in kind. Messenger only delivers the message. The God of Israel became Man.John: 1: 1-14 here Jesus being the Word kalam and creator became Man the message and choose the messenger John the baptist to introduce him to the people Israel.Just like the Prophet of old brought the word of the Lord to the people and were carriers. Muhammad was a false carriers.He just connected to the christianity railway tract a cross over line to a another tract called islam by hatred.That resulted in eternal death tract. Today there are 2 types of christianity,the real and the false one. Dont forget that muhammad's first inlaws were catholics and the making of islam was intentional to destroy the real christianity. It still exists today. And you will find there the mighty miracles are still happening,the lame walking the blind are seeing the dead being raised to life in the 21st century just as Jesus promised them that he would do this through them. If you want to see this true church then answer me on this platform.I will send you the link.
You need to compare 1st century Christianity to 7th century Islam. Islam was initially a warrior cult, while Christianitys core message revolved around salvation.
@k. it’s not going to happen because it’s not politically correct to challenge Islam. Whenever you try to raise genuine issues, annoying leftists and Muslims will just scream “ISLAMOPHOBE” until you shut up.
@k. secularists aren’t going to force anything though. It has to be an internal change. You’re wrong secularists didn’t force Christianity to change during the industrial revolution idk where u got that from. Christianity started to change after the Protestant reformation. After people started reading the Bible for themselves they realized how much the church was abusing their authority so the church was forced to reform. The difference with Islam is that Muslim countries are not abusing their authority as sharia law is in accordance with Quran and Hadith. So there will never be a widespread enlightenment within Islam
@k. of course when I say the Protestant reformation I don’t mean it happened overnight. It was a process. My point is there would be no secularism without the Protestant reformation. It set the precedent for the age of enlightenment
@k. an Islamic enlightenment is necessary to fully secularize the Muslim world but like I said that can’t happen because honest Muslims know that Islam permits what goes on in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Loved this. Probably my favourite thing you have done so far. Great guest and your interview questions were fantastic! You covered so much in half an hour. Well done. 👍☺️
@@livinia296 how come bart ehrman clearly stated that Jesus Christ was crucified and also his disciples believed in his divinity after his resurrection.......how come it will destroy Christanity?
@@james-yf9wm Yes!! Someone was cruxified on the cross but it wasn't Jesus. Allah saved Jesus from cruxifiction and raised him up to the heavens. Qur'an 4:157-158 "It was made to appear to them so"
You do realise Bart just laid waste to Christianity and confirmed the basic understandings of Islam right? That at the time nobody thought of Jesus (peace be upon him) devine and just a Prophet? And confirmed the preservation of the Qur'an and corruption of the Bible? What exactly are you do "please" of from this? It's incredibly embarrassing!
Its funny how all the Abduls in the comment section are changing their tune now about Bart Erhman. " We never used Bart Erhman to prove Islam right, we just used him to show the Bible was corrupted. Even tho he said numerous times that the textual variants within the New Testament have zero affect on Christian doctrine. Its amazing how these Abduls mind work. They are completely delusional just like their prophet lol.
I respect Dr.Ehram's knowledge of the gospel. but I don't understand when he says at 26:38 when he says that Jesus didn't expect to get crucified contradicts that Jesus foretold him to go to Jerusalem and the Chief priest would get a hold of him and hand over to be killed and be raised again which is reported in all 4 gospels. Luke 13:33; Matthew 16:21; Matthew 17:22; Mark 8:31 I wonder how he came to that conclusion?
And also in 1 Corinthians (which is he oldest dated book of the New Testament), Paul says that Jesus was crucified ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES. That means the Christian belief at the time of 1st Corinthians was not just that Jesus was crucified, but that this crucifixion was foretold in the Old Testament already written, yet he says he doesn't believe Jesus knew He would be crucified. Bart Ehrman says foolish things like this all the time, and if you put him under scrutiny, he won't defend his wacky claims.
@@Lovethyself887 Bart Ehrman is asserting that Jesus Himself didn't know that He would be crucified BECAUSE he thinks all references to Jesus having knowledge of this are later additions to the Gospels. 1 Corinthians is the oldest dated book in the New Testament predating all four Gospels BY ATHEIST SCHOLARS, this is THEIR consensus on my religion. And in 1st Corinthians, Paul says that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures. The whole point is that if the Christians during the writings of the oldest dated book of the New Testament believed that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures that proceeded Him and foretold the suffering of the Christ, and the entering into His glory, on what foundation is Bart Ehrman now saying this was a later addition to Christianity? You're just an atheist repeating talking points you've been indoctrinated with, follow the argument logically next time, or don't comment.
I used to be an atheist, however the Power of the Holy Spirit touched me few years back without and preaching from anyone. I used to recall believing anything an expert atheist would say without doing the research myself, or believing random youtubers who debunk the reality of Jesus Christ by misreperestig, wether they do it intentionally or not. I pray for the conversion of the atheists of the world. By that way, I am not saying that someone who believes in Jesus is better than anyone else (I met some "interesting" Christians myself) however what I am saying is that once you walk the path of Light you can't go back to darkness. God bless you all.
@@WintersunExtras a miracle (physical) occurred in the name of Christ in my life, didn't just occur to me but also various family members and friends, long story.
@@SF-ow5ru It's alright, I don't expect you to explain the whole story. The part that would interest me is the part where Christianity is reliably demonstrated to be true. I'm highly skeptical of religious people who claim to be a former Atheists, they unfailingly show that their previous Atheism did not have a skeptical basis, and if it had then they wouldn't have become Christians. So I'd like to see if you're an exception to this.
I enjoyed watching that and found it quite entertaining! What disappointed me most, was not Bart's distortion of the Christian message, but his clever way of avoiding saying anything contrary to Islam or the Quran, even though he will be well aware of the fabrications of both! My "take away" from this is that Bart is more concerned about avoiding any 'trouble' with Muslims, than he is about giving an honest educated opinion about Islam and the Quran, however much predicated with a disclaimer of "I'm not an expert in Islam or the Quran". He could have given an educated opinion on for instance the difference between Jesus's teachings and message, from that found in the Quran, or the differences between the documented Jesus and the documented Mohammed....but he avoided doing so, because he wanted to remove himself from any criticism for giving such an opinion. Where he did give an opinion, these were so carefully crafted as to not contradict anything Islamic, that his opinions on this were virtually USELESS! - I think Bart should have been a Politician as with his Diplomatic skills, he would have excelled in any TV or Press interview, with these tactics!
Yes, he avoided criticize Islam - its cowardly, but it can be lethal to talk bad about Mohammedanism in contrast to criticize Christianity. As Agnostic I respect peaceful religions like Christianity or Buddhism that contains much wisdom. Mohammedanism should be erased by all means.
@@livinia296 Bart Ehrman didn't "disprove" Christianity - he disproved Islam! You see, the Quran claims that Jesus wasn't crucified, but Bart Ehrman has said this is wrong and fabrication. According to Muslims, if even one thing is wrong in the Quran or a contradiction, the whole Quran is wrong and cannot be from God. Bart Ehrman has confirmed that the Quran is in error in Surah 4:157, as I have long known.
Clicking on this video brought up an add for donating to Muslim causes...how ironic. I appreciate the content AP. I hope that you come to Christ one day.
@Isaac13 Abraham It's important to note that Jesus knew He was going to suffer in Jerusalem and predicted His own death. (Matthew 16:21-23, Mark 8:31-32, and Luke 9:21-22, Matthew 17:22-23, Mark 9:30-32, and Luke 9:43-45, Matthew 20:17-19, Mark 10:32-34, and Luke 18:31-34) You have misinterpreted the words 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'. In fact, this statement from Jesus originated from his immense love for men and His realization that despite His suffering and sacrifice, that God's justice deprived Him of the salvation of the reprobate and the redemption of their souls. The same can be said with Jesus' statement 'I thirst'; as much as Jesus certainly had a physical thirst, He was referring to a 'thirst' for the salvation of souls. God never abandoned Jesus, as He manifested Himself through the stirring of all Creation (resuscitating the dead, thunder, earthquakes, splitting of the Temple veil, etc etc)
@@michelpapineau8868 When Jesus said: “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” He was referring to Psalm 22, which is a Messianic psalm in which the Messiah would be crushed, this comes true on the cross
@Mansoor Ahmad Bart confirms Jesus was crucified. you forgot to add that. He also said that the virgin birth was a legend, you forgot to add that. And then you lied that the letters of Paul are misinformation. At this point I doubt u can. actually listen to a conversation carefully. Saying people doubt the authorship of a document doesn't mean the information in it is false. Yet you didn't mention that there indisputable fact that Paul wrote some of this.
@@satellitekhan2300 We cannot know what Jesus really taught and believed because he didn't write anything. What Bart claims, and he may be right, is that the 4 canonical gospels may have been in a certain way distorted, based on the assumption that oral traditions have tendency to be somehow distorted and the 4 canonical christians gospels are based in oral traditions. But , this said, there's no clear proof on that issue. Moreover the quran has also some material collected from the apochryphal christian gospels and these are much less accurate than the 4 canonical gospels because they were written much later.
@@satellitekhan2300 Apochryphal christian books are not part of the Bible, are spurious texts rejected by mainstream christianity. The very idea that Jesus wasn't crucified is found in gnostic christian writings like those of Basilides and Valentinus; Bart made reference to that in this video. So, it is clear that the quran lacks of originality. So, I didn't said that the quran was copied from the bible. Actually it is more complex than that. And let me tell you that the quran cannot correct the Bible, cause his author doesn't really know the Bible, but just a few of its contents. And Muhammad had friends like Waraqa ibn Naufal, the christian elder, Salman the persian who teach him zoroastric contents and even Mary the coptic, his wife, by whom he had access to some apocryphal gospels. To say that the quran resembles the bible, because it came from God it is just a matter of belief that nobody can prove. It is like if you say that the bible is the word of God. It is purely subjective.
@@satellitekhan2300 You should laugh of your statements .Waraqa was a relative of Khadija as you said but Muhammed met him personally and talked to him in many occasions and likely was instructed by him. The aledged illiteracy of Muhammed is part of the muslim legend about him, and probably is not accurate. And even if he was illiterate he certainly had ears, eyes and intelect to understand what people say. Concerning Noah and the story of the flood it was borrowed from the Gilgamesh epics. So, both the Bible and the Quran were inspired by ancient legends. I have nothing to learn from you, because your cultural level is irrelevant to me. Fundamentalists like you use to be arrogant. I'm not here to be educated by you. If you have vocation to teach go and teach your fellow muslims and spare me to your arrogance. Talibans, Daesh and others call themselves true muslims, because they know they pratice fully Islam including slavery of women, amongst other inhuman and barbaric practices. I'm convinced the world would be a better place without Islam. If there are good people amongst muslims it is despite Islam and not because of Islam.
@@satellitekhan2300 as per your claim, he also confirmed that Jesus was crucified which you don't believe and contradict the fact that all Muslim's view is destroyed in matter of seconds. ☺️
acts 4:13 simply says they were unschooled. To take that to mean illiterate is a huge, huge jump. It could simply mean "not scholars". There are a lot of degrees between these.
AP , I think you should interview FAZALE " Fuz " RANA an ex- Muslim who became a Christian in college and is a Biochemist that just wrote the book -- Fit for a Purpose. Does the Anthropic Principle include Biochemistry?
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue Luke 4:14-22 Esv Jesus Begins His Ministry 14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me, because he has anointed me to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor. (AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind, (AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
Jesus was writing in a sand when Mary Magdalen was brought to him.At twelve he was teaching in a temple he called his father house.So Bart got facts wrong.
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue Luke 4:14-22 Esv Jesus Begins His Ministry 14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me, because he has anointed me to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor. (AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind, (AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
On oral traditions, the Gunditjmara from Australia have an oral tradition about a mountain spitting fire and local rivers moving. They incorporate this into their local beliefs and legends, but recently it was discovered that the mountain was an active volcano that erupted 37,000 years ago. Their knowledge of the past path of the river was also surprisingly accurate. I'm not saying that this makes all oral traditions true, but that it certainly gives credence to the idea that oral traditions contain at least a grain of truth. It certainly suggests that many legends may have been originally based on real world events
@@livinia296 Sorry to pop your ignorant bubble, but Bart Erhman is just repeating what Biblical Scholars (most of whom are Christians) have long known, and which the vast majority of Christians (Catholic, Orthodox & liberal Protestants) accept with no problem at all. It's only wacky Protestant Fundamentalists who are threatened by it. In fact, Erhman's own loss of faith had nothing to do with his Biblical scholarship, but with his struggle dealing with the Problem of Evil.
Total respect to Bart Erhman who has shared his expertise as a New Testament scholar. Just a reminder to Bart...as you said that the 4 gospels are histrocally authentic and reliable, didnt you remember Jesus reading the scroll of Isaiah in the synagogue? ...So that makes Jesus literate. Everything that Bart said in this interview do make sense...He thinks Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, some followers think Jesus is worthy of worship...the only difference is that---he doesnt/couldnt believe what the gospel says. Thank You AP! We value your contribution to our ministry. lolz. hugs!
The only thing I will add is that when it comes to the “great diversity within early Christianity,” what is often left out of such statements is the degree to which each expression was represented. As Bart said, the four gospels of the NT are all from the 1st century and are the most authentic. Any competing “Christianity” that came later was based on a much later writing with a theology divorced from the original Jewish context, and much less represented. Consider how much more the gospels of the NT were copied and read versus any other “gospel” that came later. The gospels of the NT were far more in number by a long shot. No other deviant expression of the faith comes close in scope or degree of representation. So it’s not as if there were all these different christianities that were all equal in representation. There was definitely a core representation that was the majority by far, and deviating movements were much smaller in scale. It was the four gospels of the NT that the vast majority of Christians followed from the 1st century on.
@Mansoor Ahmad 1. He confirms the Quran is preserved but compares its preservation to that of Mein Kamf (in other words, it’s preservation is irrelevant since it doesn’t proof anything and was the act of men). 2. Bart only confirms that the Disciples and Jesus were Jews, not Muslims (basically Messianic Jews). 3. Christians knew and still know this, but apply the concept of Son of God differently just like the Bible does (for the concept of Son of God doesn’t mean the same when it’s applied to prophets or angels as the Bible shows). 4. He doesn’t say they’re false, he says that they weren’t written by Paul himself. They could still be dictated or based on what Paul said. And even with this problematic of the authorship, the other seven books of Paul are confirmed to be originally written or dictated by Paul. Way to take things out of context you Islamist, read about Christianity before slandering it.
Bart Ehrman is hilarious, maybe this will stop Muslims from quoting him, but I doubt it. I still disagree with the way he categorizes the gospels, any lay person can see the difference between the writing styles of the gospel and mythical works of antiquity. He keeps suggesting (perhaps to himself) that the gospel writers were some how bound to truth, while deifying a figure they already viewed as divine. It doesn’t make sense especially since within a few decades the community had already spread hundreds of miles.
Actually Bart erhman think that literacy here mean that you can’t read and write but I don’t think so but literacy have something to do with someone who knew the law of the Jews like anyone who reach the secondary school of the Jews where these people are doctor of the law. And as Paul come from a Pharisee school where they are expert on the law unlike Peter and John who probably were just at the primacy school of the Jewish Pharisee. In that sense Peter and John weren’t educated and Peter and John as many Jews would know how to read and write. Because the Jews at the young age are trained in the religious belief by their written tradition and oral tradition
#Allah said Jesus was not crucified And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝗵𝗶𝗺; 𝗯𝘂𝘁 [𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿] 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗺 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise)
@@isaacleillhikar4566 who? Me I am catholic Romain, I perhaps know more references of the Quran than the bible but it doesn't mean that I am not. I like people who have point of view and argument. I prefer a communist with strong conviction with who we can argue that a guy with my point of view without arguments. AP is a honest guy and I like that. the atheist guy, I don't him much. I have seen this video and the one with the man who spit very often and have no argument expect his diploma
@@Alisalah_24 yes he disapprove the bible and why I should dislike the content? It s not the reason? He have more arguments than Muslim I have heard for years. How you can really believe in something if you don't listen to your opposite beleive? Listen Muslim about Christianity it s like listen a kid who try to explain something that his mom explain. It doesn't count.
@@livinia296 and? Disagree with someone doesn't mean that I should dislike the content? I love the content of AP, the content of CP and both aren't catholic. CP explain why catholics is false from his point of view, I enjoy his point of view because he have argument. It s not an angry man who is non rational and can't hear the other point of view. If.you can't listen the opposite point of view, you have trouble with your beleive.
Don't thank AP yet. He lied about islam to you christians, (1). At 15:45 min, AP said, 'the islamic account (of the crucifixion) is very strange; ie. the muslim think that jesus is not crucified but somebody else is crucified, it was not jesus but people thought that it was jesus. It is very strange'. What did dr erhman reply? (2). Dr erhman said, 'that thinking did not start with the muslim. In fact, it was started by christian teacher by the name of basilides (140 AD) who wrote in his gospel but we don't have that gospel anymore'. (3). See how AP lied about islam. On jesus crucifixion, the quran 4:157 says, "And their (the jews) saying, 'we slew the messiah, jesus, son of mary', the messenger of allah, whereas in fact, they had neither slain him nor crucified him but the matter was made dubious to them and those who differed about it too were in a state of doubt! They have no definite knowledge of it, but merely follow conjecture and they surely slew him not'. (4). Did the quran says anything about such strange thing that AP said? No, yet AP said so and he is lying to the christians, not muslims (because muslims already knew he was lying); whilst, in fact, it is the christian teacher basilide who wrote such a strange thing. (5). Why do you think the christian did not keep the gospels by basilides? Do you think the muslims who destroy that gospel?
As a muslim, I have absolutely no problem with what this interview "exposes". Thanks AP, I will continue using Bart Ehrman as proof against Christianity :)
@@froggy8301 LOL right?! They think that “additions” to the text doesn’t make the text corrupted. I was crying of laughter. Best parts: “The Qur’an has been faithfully copied” “There are stories in the gospels that are most certainly made up.” “The earliest followers of Jesus thought he was a human and that he worshipped 1 God.” “Son of god is used for various beings, humans, representatives of God on earth.” “6 of Pauls writings are doubted by scholars.” “In the earliest centuries there’s a lot of diversity within Christianity.” “There were a lot of controversial views floating around in the first 2 centuries.” Pure GOLD They think we think that the Injil was a written book… poor AP, all of these refutations and solid knowledge from a practising ex-muslim and still no understanding about what muslims actually believe. Miskeen
@@axis2312 I was just noting down most of the above, Jzk brv you saved me time! lol What amazes me is how gullible these minions are taking this A Puss as some kind of an academic saviour loool. I love the bit where Bart Ernham says he's just not qualified enough to speak about Islam, loooooooooooool
@@froggy8301 He literally thinks this interview showed us something we didn’t know LOL! How can someone be so blind? I just feel sorry for him, all of this hate is a cry for help. I think he’s lost. The problem is I think he knows Islam in true. There isn’t anything that hasn’t been explained to him using logic. I heard him say once “if God knew I would be like this, then why would he condemn me to hellfire?” All the while knowing that he has the free will to change his mind and his ways. I hope he comes back to his senses, because this interview was an epic fail and all of his arguments have been addressed. Anyyyyway. Salam brother :)
new International version Gospel Of John 16:13-1413 But when he, the Spirit of truth,(A) comes, he will guide you into all the truth.(B) He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. Not prove of Jesus(p:) Told about the coming of last Prophet?...
I wonder what his response would be about the the Quran verses 66:12, 19:28, where Allah wrongly refers to Mary as daughter of Imran and sister of Aaron?
He's an atheist, so he doesn't believe in any stories about the divine origin of the Quran, so he would probably say that the Quran's author(s) got it wrong because they're dumb.
Disagree with Bart that Jesus was expecting for God to set up his kingdom on the earth during his lifetime. If Jesus’ words are accurate, he was quoted as saying, “my kingdom is not of this world, else would my followers fight.”
Bart also said Jesus was s great teacher.. And he also preached in Temples, but sure if u think he could not read. BTW muhammed could read 📚.. its a lie that he could not.
@@livinia296 lol.. So why did he ask for paper and a pen to Write on. ✍ why did the cave demon as him to read. 3 times.. you have been lied to.. 😆🤣😂😹..
So much better than the talk between MH and Dr. Ehrman. AP did not cut Dr. Ehrman off and let him finish his point, simply asking questions and giving him time, as should be. You learn when you listen, not talk :)
he literally destroyed Christianity 😀 thanx to the apuss. and your youtube profile picture is good 👍 is this picture of your father or grandfather? you both are looking same
AP you see,when you asked Bart about why the Jesus's apostles claimed about ressurection he didn't give us an actual clarity about the ressurection he simply skipped..
I hope you can get a Messianic Jew to discuss how Jesus fulfilled Jewish prophecies. Would have a whole other perspective, things that nonjewish Christians don’t even think about.
I think Bart have to explain Why he thinks Jesus was expecting the start of the kingdom immediately, because the Bible consistently point in the opposite direction.
Thanks for exposing the falsehood in Christianity AP! You need to bring on more accredited scholars to debunk the histrocity of Christianity and its major flaws
Atheists are going to more about God of the Bible than we do? Nah..How about impress us and read the Whole Bible they sure won't be in confusion anymore and will Praise Jesus..They just have no idea
@@jessicaseabolt5178 Plenty of Atheists have read the whole Bible and remain unconvinced. What possible realisation could a skeptic have after reading the whole thing?
@@WintersunExtras No..Cherry picked is NOT reading it! I know thus by what they say and wouldn't be so confused..I guarantee they have not..The Holy Word gives life! OT even the prophets predicted Jesus coming in the Flesh and Resurrecting! After Resurrecting 500ppl witnessed Jesus even to doubting Thomas who had to see Jesus to believe and did once he did,Jesus said to Thomas because you have seen and yet believed,but blessed are those who have not seen but yet believed! The fall of Jerusalem happened because of this and Christians were sought out to be persecuted after the witnessing, Jesus had the first 12 and after Resurrection it grew.. the enemies feared this to get out but spread like wildfire. Isaiah and Psalms read that about Jesus coming in the Flesh it was all predicted before Jesus came..and the 4 gospels is of the Good News that we are Saved through Grace and under a New Covenant through Jesus
@@WintersunExtras Thomas said my Lord and My God after witnessing! The reason of the Crucifixion was because Jesus said He and the Father are One! Saying He was God and the Jews New this so mocked Him..its why Jesus came to save His ppl because they were lost..First to the Jew then the Gentile.. The NT is about Jesus birth to His whole life of teachings and Miracles to direct us to the Way to God! His sacrifice for His children to make a bridge to God through sharing in our sufferings as we share in His to Resurrection and conquering death..Without knowing the Son then you will not know the Father who sent Him..Because He came lower than the angels and humbled Himself down showing His Love for Man who He put first as we should put Him first..All Glory to God our Lord and Savior may He reign on High and has shown all His mercy for we know the Lord is Good all the Time. Forever our King of kings and Lord of lords,The Alpha and Omega the First and Last🙌🙌🙌🙌 Praise Jesus! Our Kingdom Come thy will be done!
8. The 4 Gospels are the most authentic Gospels. The oldest as good as you can get Gospels, which are still problematic, copy of a copy of copy of a copy with the original missing. Only Pauls' letter go back to him. The self proclaimed apostle..
Muslim friends, I understand it is shocking to discover that your long held beliefs, and the beliefs of your family, relatives, ancestors and culture, are wrong. But you don’t have to despair. God has now given you the chance to believe again. In Jesus, the Truth. Take this opportunity.
I would be worried if the 4 gospels were the same. For me, the fact that there are slight differences makes them reliable. The so-called differences is due to the fact that 4 people seeing the same event will never present it in the exact (same) words. If there were no subtle and insignificant differences, I would think it was a concerted attempt to water down the message by copying verbatim from each other. If you know a bit of history and understand oral tradition as a source of history, you certainly understand where I am coming from. If you asked two people how someone died--one would start from his collapse at home while the other may start from what happened at the hospital. The fact that one did not mention a particlar issue does not necessarily mean it didn't happen.
Hahahaha Apus: I am a legend I got the Dr to have a discussion with me. I will now destroy islam Dr Bart- I intend to destroy Christianity instead Apus after interview - I wish I never conducted this discussion Christians- I believe Jesus is God even though my scriptures have 100000 discrepancies ( according to Bart) Muslims - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bart Ehrman is saying ..."There's so much errors and contradictions in the Bible But the rest of the Bible is ok... it's just like saying the measuring scale of the ruler has errors but you can still use it for measurement 🤦♂️
Apuss Bart doesn't agree with Islam since he is an atheist. He also doesn't believe that Jesus died for anyone's sins plus the Quran says: And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. ... Rather, God raised him up to Himself.
The reason why people believe Jesus died is since it appeared to them that way but certainly God saved him. This makes perfect theological sense ie Bart himself said that it was utter nonsense that Jesus had to die for anyone's sin. And that this was invented after ie in his assumption.
@@khalilbonjol8711 There is the difference. Christianity WANTS to be understood, or else it will all still be in Latin. If God wanted me to join, He would not want me to learn Arabic first. Also... dont the Arabs dislike the texts to be preached in any other language then Arabic? You are not making a strong case at all, all I hear is "only the elite (arab, bahasa, uru speaking) can join"... andd even among those groups there is hatered towards each other... not much peace to be found there
@@Fudi-La Critiques of the Quran are found written by muslims in the major languages of the muslims. There is no inter-group conflict. There is conflict caused by differences in the interpretation of the Quran and is among members of the same linguistic group. Often members of these groups use Arabic if they wish to embrace a bigger audience to be involved in the differences. In Islam there is no monolithic or monopoly authority to resolve theological differences on a global scale. The closest equivalent is bounded by the boundaries of the nation state. There is no Council of Nicea, for example.
@@greyngreyer5 Actually practically all that is important and crucial in Islam has passed the various tests of the so-called Councils with participants who actually were present when Muhammad was alive and not discussed by clever than thou later followers.
Bart is clever and hilarious at the same time. I'll try to remember to explode in laughter like him the next time I hear religious bullshit from theists. They usually do not listen to reason, but this kind of laughter is pure mic drop
1 Timothy 4:10 - The New International Version (NIV) 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
11. Christians until the 7th century believed in Jesus as God and/or Son of God." wait, what?? hahahaha. And what after 7th century? they didnt?? Is that the context cause we have pretty much evidences from history from that centry, and dogma of Christian Church , which was one holy and apostolic (Catholic) and contained 99% of those who called themslefs christians, was that Jesus is God.
I think that should read "before" rather than "until", since the topic of discussion in that segment was what Christians before the time of Mohammed believed.
While I watch your channel all the time and like all your videos AP, this one I won't watch or like as bart erman claims to have been a christian and a bible scholar (Which he never was) and muslims use him to discredit the bible. You don't ask an athiest weither the bible is true or not, they will always say not. Erman is NOT an expert on the bible.
He has multiple degrees and he knows ancient Hebrew and Greek. No offense, but he is an expert on the bible, and I doubt you will realize the hypocrisy of what you said when you probably lack all these things.
You also don't ask a Muslim if the Qur'an is true or not, of course it would always be true to him, even if his knowledge on the Qur'an is absurd. I would wager a higher bet on Ehrman's view compared to the Muslims who conclude only by emotions without any academic substance.
You're missing out! I've watched hours of Dr. Ehrman's debates and interviews, I've read his articles, I listen to atheists and Christians alike discuss his material- being familiar with Dr. Ehrman's work is invaluable as a Christian, especially to be able to answer objections to our faith.
Hi! How about a joint venture between Apostate Prophet, Islam Critiqued, and Apologetics Roadshow on the topic on the notion of "Abrahamitic Religions" As I meet the topic in discussions it is used as a way of criticizing Judaism and Christianity for not being generous about islam. According to the notion all three religions have the same god, scriptures, personage and ideas and that the personage is active in all religions. Your differences would make the topic easier to spread and would even give good knowledge about all three religions. I'll send this message to all of you.
Painful to watch… Jesus came with a message cal Injil which is evenglion or Évangile in french for example. The Quran is not strictly a book bécasse it MEANS à récitation.. Same for Jesus… BUT there was a book that contain all the sayings of jesus AND not the testimony of the apostée!!
@Jesus Or Muhammad …which gospel? Mark’s, Matthews, Luke’s, John’s or the self-proclaimed Apostle Paul’s? The ‘Injil’ is the words of Jesus, in his Aramaic tongue, not the amended bible you have today :). So yes, when you do find it, let us know and we shall affirm it and follow the final revelation as commanded by Allah
@Jesus Or Muhammad Blabla… you pick and choose what fits your narrative in the Quran but fail to take into account the whole picture? How stupid is that? Furthermore you do not believe in Islam or the Quran STILL you want to win some point by referring to its content? How stupid is that? We are ex-christians converts to Islam and like muslims we believe in Jesus as a prophet who came with a good news and the word of God coming out of his mouth like the Quran which is a recitation, a recital of the words of God… You don’t have a leg to stand on still you tell me Christians don’t care of Muslim opinions? YOU ARE LIARS.. you twist the truth to trick naive people BECAUSE the Quran says people at the time of Jesus claimed he was killed on the cross (even though Allah/God said they did not defeat him) and you pretend the Quran is in conflict with historical facts… YOU ARE LIARS… and lying about religion speaks volume of a feeble kind of faith in the veracity of your claims.. Shame on you…
Once upon a time....... Christians say Ehrman understands the Qur'an and shows its flawed Muslims say Ehrman understands the Bible and shows its flawed They then watch his criticism of thier holy book: Muslims say Ehrman doesn't understand the Qur'an Christians say Ehrman doesn't understand the Bible Then they respond to the other: Christians say Muslims are stupid and lying to themselves Muslims say Christians are stupid and lying to themselves They then reply to a comment saying eternity is a long time. The end
When did any Christian ever say that Ehrman knows anything about the Quran? It's something he almost never talks about, since it isn't even tangentially connected to his field.
This was fantastic. In summary:
1. Bart Ehrman does not agree with Islam.
2. It is implausible that Jesus "brought" a scripture as the Quran claims.
3. The New Testament is quite accurate with additions, not corruptions.
4. Apocryphal stories found in the Quran are fabrications.
5. Jesus was definitely crucified.
6. Early Christians were not "Muslims," they worshiped Jesus.
7. Jesus was always known as the Son of God in a sense.
8. The 4 Gospels are the most authentic Gospels.
9. Paul's Undisputed Epistles are definitely authentic.
10. The Gospels partially agree but also disagree with the Quran.
11. Christians until the 7th century believed in Jesus as God and/or Son of God.
12. Jesus definitely did not predict Muhammad.
13. Jesus and Muhammad are hard to compare.
*Muslims should stop misusing Bart Ehrman to validate their own beliefs. He doesn't agree with them at all.*
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Will you ever try Trusting in Jesus, AP? At least we can’t say anything bad about him. Unlike pedo-mo the prophet of Islam. God bless you.
The new testament can only be "mostly accurate" after you interpret away most of the errors and contradiction.
The Muslims Jesus is fake.
2 CORINTHIANS 11:4;
MARK 13:22.
You mean Muslims Scholars have been deliberately lying to the public and bralnwashing MusIms? : O
@Isaac13 Abraham aint kabaa also used for pagan in pre islamic belief lmao also why is your heaven looks like porn... Sorry but your prophet is a warlord like JP said
As the final seconds ticked away, I almost thought that AP wasn't going to say, "Stay away from Islam."
@Jamal Ramadan How did it feel to watch a 31 minute long video of Bart putting a finger inside of the bum of Mohammed? xD
@Jamal Ramadan He did but a certain mr.muhammad deceived many into his lies who we often find commenting on random TH-cam vedios. The actual joke is they think their comments are smart and rational.
@Jamal Ramadan Jesus came not to destroy, but to save. He chooses to exercise his omniscience, but dont worry the same Jesus that appeared to Abraham and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is the same Jesus who says hes coming back to deal retribution to them that know not God
@Jamal Ramadan ok I guess it's just the after effects then.
@Jamal Ramadan u are not a muslim?
7:16, Jesus was a practising Jew who at the age of 12 would need to go to the synagogue and read / recite Scripture from the scrolls, how could he be illiterate? Jewish tradition has such an emphasis on the written word and scriptures.
No! Jesus was a jew who was a practicing muslim!😁
Memorizing a scripture does not need one to know how to read
@@battlerushiromiya651 yes, but reading the Tanakh was a big part of Jewish culture. It was more common that children would be taught by their parents also. It definitely would have been mentioned by many people were he illiterate, but based on zero evidence the interviewee came to a weird conclusion.
@@katebee945 well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@battlerushiromiya651 . It seems that you are one of those who follow Bart Ehrman blindly. We Christians do not need Bart Ehrman to give us wrong information about our Lord Jesus Christ when we have reliable eye witnesses' account in the gospel and preceding prophecies in the old testament. It's atheists and muslims that need him.It is stupidity for any sensible person to leave eyewitnesses' account and start following a man who was born few years ago but ended studying to misinform people for reasons best known to him. You can be gullible to whatever Bart Ehrman says but he can't say some of these things in midst of sincere Bible scholars and Christians who know their Bible. If someone tells you that Jesus Christ the miracle worker could not read, should you believe in the first case? A smart person will not believe that but look for evidences for that but unfortunately, Bart Ehrman is A FAKE SCHOLAR and I will show you in my next post evidences that Jesus Christ was literate( it's miraculous) but because Bart Ehrman is an agnostic, he deliberately distorts the Bible. I feel worried when atheists and muslims go after this guy for information on the Bible when the account in the gospel are those of eye witnesses.
The Old Testament and the epistles are enough to point me in the direction of Jesus as the Messiah and affirm the Christian view of what the Messiah would and will accomplish. The Gospels are a beautiful portrait of the Lord ,what he did, and his teachings. I’m glad we have them.
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GLORY TO KING JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR AND REDEEMER AND BLESSED HOPE 🙏🙏🙏
@Isaac13 Abraham Just as it is much more hilarious when you muslims and your arab prophet claim to know Christ better than jews & christians themselves.
@Isaac13 Abraham People like you rejected your own 2nd temple period Biblical Judaism of which Christianity is a continuation of in the 2nd century AD and Rabbinic Judaism and Islam are kissing cousins of counterfeit interpretations of the Hebrew Bible that gave (The Two Powers of Heaven by Alan Segal ) theology that Jesus and the Apostles including Paul taught.
Dr.Michael S.Heiser videos explains this Jewish theology.
@Isaac13 Abraham The letter to the Hebrews might contradict your assumption.
The writings of the 4 Gospels were dates to at the latest 85 years after Christ. The writings of the next most textually supported ancient writing after the Bible was Homer’s Iliad. Many thousands of Christian scripture copies from within the first 100 years, with mainly “spelling” errors as Dr BE said in video. The Iliad had a little over 600 copies, but written centuries later.
You’re right Hebrew scriptures were very accurately transcribed. Christians have never argued against that.
@Isaac13 Abraham the first Christians were Jews it’s not as if gentiles came upon it and reinterpreted it.
Many Christians learn Hebrew for the sole reason of understanding scripture better. It’s somewhat ridiculous that you think only Jews can understand the scripture. Which verses are claiming have been changed?
Haha I love AP(peace be upon him)
I disagree with the view that Jesus did not expect to be crucified. The 'Prof' said earlier that the first 3 Gospels especially were very reliable. If this is so, then Jesus knew He would be crucified. He mentioned it to His disciples before His arrest that led to His crucifixion.
Agreed, that point is anti-historic.
Nah..jesus last words put an end to this issue..he clearly did not intend to get killed nor planned to be a sacrifice..
Thank you AP to invite Prof. Bart Ehrman who end up confirming the Muslim’s visions of that story of Jesus PBUH.
Ladies and gentlemen please listen to AP video
Islam vs. Christianity on Jesus | Dr. Bart Ehrman Speaks to Apostate Prophet
Ha ..ha .....Poor AP was trying hard to put words in Bart's mouth .. to hurt Islam ... but all fired back on him ...poor guy.
In min 4:00 Bart end up to confirm the Quran is better book than Gospels
In min 18 &26 Jesus was prophet
In min 19:00 Bart removed the divinity of Jesus just because called people called him Son of God .
In min 25 Bart confirms the diversity of early Christianity and conflicts people went through to come up with the Christian doctoring.
@@truthmatter9972 - I saw the video, and I saw the opposite of what you say. I guess I dont trust agnostic sayings.
@@entertaininformmedia7836 Just go the mins above you will see it very clearly. Also Bart said that Jesus never tough that he gona be killed not sure what min , but it is there. Poor AP was almost crying during the interview.... i do not blame him .
He didn’t know if he could read he read in the book of Isaiah and when correcting the Pharisees he would tell them didn’t you read in the scriptures.This doctor needs a doctor
Fo Sho it's sad really
Exactly, what about John 8 where Jesus wrote on the ground with his finger?
well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@AntiChrxzt who should teach God how to read
@@AntiChrxzt "Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families" You know, being among top 10% is not so awesome. Presumably nowadays ability to write a few lines of code in any script or programming language would be a more arcane knowledge.
"The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as" Gifted kid that needed to be given a single chance?
I find your faith in formal education disturbing... :D :D :D
Islam is wrong about Lord Jesus .
That's why Islam is wrong.
All religion is wrong.
@@deltanovember1672 No need to Believe your argument. Since there is no Logic In It.
I need reasoning
@@jacksoncastelino04
All religions and all gods are man made
@kaıser Jesus was not only human🙄, He is the Word of God made flesh.
No Christian believed man can become God😂
@@ironlake8944 How do you know that all of them are man-made? Have you done extensive research into the origins of every single one?
26:59 *"I definitely do not think that Jesus was predicting Muhammad!"* - B. Ehrman
But his view that Jesus couldn't read is laughable: so Bart is a mixed bag of incoherence do to him becoming an atheist.
Lol 🤭
@@davidjanbaz7728 Jesus reads from the Isaiah scroll in the Synagogue.
@@hereweare9096 exactly!
"Do not think." He didn't say he knows for a FACT.
Bart Ehrman: Disciples never said Jesus pre-existed.
Apostle Peter: "He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you."
(1 Peter 1:20)
That’s another great example I was going to type.
Ehrman: *NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE THAT ITS LIKE BAZILLION YEARS LATER*
pseudonymous author: “apostle Peter”
@@streetsdisciple0014 Maybe you, someone born 2000 years later could tell that to persecuted fathers of old who were alive with the apostle Peter in the 1st century.
@@shiloh2001 so says the someone born 2000 yrs later…
Remember there was a time when the "experts" did not think Nazareth existed until they found it and also most evidence is coming out that more people could read and write
context?
Also, the very existence of a historical Jesus was heavily contested not too many years ago, while today is a pretty established fact among scholars. Our understanding changes over time, but any new finding just confirms the reliability of the Biblical narrative.
Also most of the experts didn't believe Potnius Pilate existed until they found the evidence that he did...
@Jamal Ramadan no. I don't trust "experts". I remember when Elon Musk was struggling with SpaceX and the so called "experts" say specex was going to free fall alongside Tesla. Today we know where SpaceX is.
200 years ago experts said that hittites were imaginary group of people in the bible. But those experts were wrong.
I would put a hard stop to the writing of all the gospels at 70 AD. the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem is such a big event to be missed by any writer of the gospel but all the writers of the new testament seem to be unaware of this big event. If Jesus died in this 30s then gospels at most have to be written 40 years after Jesus. Bart assertions cannot be reasonable supported
Exactly! None of the gospels refer to the Temple destruction. This means they had to be written before. Also Jesus could read. So could a Matthew ( tax collector).
@@nymgrace1227 Agreed - He was called a Rabbi by others and one would assume that a Rabbi could read.
Its good to hear, because I used to say the exact argument.
- the destruction of the temple was like the holocaust of the time, it is impossible to not to be mentioned
- moreover Jesus is prophesizing about it several times, so it would make sense that the writers had made it clear, by pointing to the historical event, it would be a necessity almost
@@nemgyuri such an event would be too tempting to ignore, however, all the writers seem completely obvious to this event. Are not you exaggerating a bit about the destruction of the temple you said Jesus prophesy about "several times" it is only mentioned in Mark ( ch 13) and only in one verse with the wider context of the last days? The way the disciples behave was like if they did not really believe Jesus. I would hardly call it several times. such was such a dramatic event it not only destroyed the temple but emptied Jerusalem of all Jews and destroyed many places
@@midnightwatchman1 I was strengthening your point, I dont see why you see it contradicting, Jesus said He will destroy the temple and rebuild it, He prophesized about the temple in the olivet discourse as well. These statements would have been linked to the destruction of the temple, if the gospels were written after it.
Great interview it’s so funny how Muslims quote this guy. Seeing Muhammad Hijabs disappointment when he interviewed Bart was priceless. 😂
Your forgetting its an interview, not a debate, so why would mohammed hijab have disappointment in simply an interview on his thought process and beliefs. As a muslim i do quote him ill admit, but i also quote peter j williams whose also a christian to be fair during debates i have. There is no disappointment, we are all just seeking the truth, we don’t care about the ego boost of being right or wrong, we simply want the truth and to go to heaven, and avoid hell at all costs. Thats all. You make it a personal issue more than an ideological/theological issue. Stop pointing fingers and seek truth yourself, don’t wanna see anyone going to hell for a lack of common sense. Im not forcing you or anything to convert, im simply saying go do research with no bias, listen to multiple scholars of each religion and belief to build up a proper consensus. At the end of the day, your the one in charge of your fate, no one else.
@@littlenaro1700the evidence points to Islam being false.
@@Cynical_B😂😂😂😂😂😂. That's obviously why Hijab, AKA mo Boobs, interviewed him...
So funny don't make your own opinion based on " expert" search the truth for yourself self
Mr. Ehrman is incorrect in saying that the Quran has been accurately copied. There are no ancient qurans that agree with the Hafs quran, and there still exist today multiple variations of the quran.
Wait.. the dude said he didn’t know if Jesus could read. Is he a Christian? Because Jesus read Torah in synagogue
@@luke2346luke later manuscripts according to who?
Erhaman is an atheists.
He turned away from Christianity because he could not reconcile the suffering in the world with the existence of a loving g God.
It is not clear why he says that Jesus' followers did not regard him as God.
In his time, the apostles heard God declare him as son of God and Thomas and Peter regarded and confessed him as God.
@@luke2346luke That's a really weak argument, and Bart knows it. The passage in question is from Luke, which Bart believes does contain historical information. He's basing his claim that Jesus was illiterate on the fact that Nazareth was a very small settlement and the fact that most people at the time couldn't read and write.
@Luiz Atheists make such errors and that's why they always lose
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue
Luke 4:14-22
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Jesus Begins His Ministry
14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor.
(AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind,
(AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
26:31 bert erhman said jesus wasn't know he will be crucified = Wrong. Isaiah wrote prophecies about the suffering of Jesus, also Jesus was came as a king riding a donkey, but he was rejected and was killed by the will of most jewish
@Jamal Ramadan Jesus doesn't create sin, but the first sin done by human was disobeying God's command.
@UCgs6DewwMz8YOLjmloTsR4Q actually His Hebrew name is Yeshua meaning "My (the LORD'S) salvation" and whenever the LORD's salvation is mentioned in scripture we see the Hebrew word - Yeshua or equivalent. So yeah, one can argue that the name Jesus (the Greek equivalent) is mentioned in the Old Testament.
More Dore Do you even bother to read how Judaism views Isaiah prophesies? The fact you are sure that it is about Jesus is comparable to the fact Muslims claiming Isaiah mentions Muhammad.
@@hyawill8944 give me one person name who already fullfiled isaiah prophecies in isaiah 53.
FYI, isaiah 53 are the most avoided chapter by jewish religious leader, because the story in there telling about Jesus Christ, my God, crucifixion and suffering.
Many people doubt Jesus Christ without even trying to reach Him through pray with faith
@@moredore5876 I won't give you one person. Because it doesn't have to be about one person. According to Jewish traditions it speaks about the nation, the Israel.
Thanks for inviting Bart.
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The Quran has NOT been “faithfully copied” at all, and it was edited and changed all the way until it was standardized in 1924! The Quran is NOT superior in any way to any religious text, let alone the Bible. The Topkapi and Samarkand Qurans who have THOUSANDS of differences from the current 1924 version are two of many examples that prove this.
Yea keep barking ur Christian apologetic research from Jay smith and scam shamoun 😂
You know nothing LOL
LOLLL,,,, FUCKED. KNOWLEDGE,,,, 😂😂😂
1924 ITS DIALECTICAL,,,, ONLY,,,,, EVEN 1917 SINGAPORE , ALSO INDIAN ISSUED ALQURAN,,,, ALREADY ,,,, YOU CAN COMPARE IT,,,, ITS STILL THE SAME TILL NOW DAYS,,,,,PROVEN,,,
Broooo!!!! its always night in India when you post videos...your majority fans are from here....it's really hard to use mobile at night in desi household 🥺🙂
India is actually number 2. America is number 1 by viewership. I'm also here, so I publish it at times that are most comfortable for me.
It's just 11:30 in India it's not really midnight
i was waiting for this
19:20 in Philippines 2 Paul quotes from an early Christian hymn which says that Jesus preexisted as God but took on the form of a servant. To say the deity of Christ is something that formed over time is an assertion without any evidence.
So cool that you managed to get Dr. Ehrman as a guest. I love his work.
Brilliant questions! You are an insightful interviewer, AP
Bart Ehrmann needs to learn about the 37 diffrent qurans XD
I mean, he didn't say it wrong, Muslims have been faithful copying their 37 qurans and call it one. XD
According to Muslims. 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1......equals one. They have 37 different Arabic Qurans, but that equals one perfectly preserved Quran. 🤣🤣🤣
Thats what I was thinking. He should listen to Hatun Tash's channel.
How can he! They don't exist.!🤥
Exactly. How could he make this claim with obviously zero research.
Your new look is really amazing , looks very energetic and attractive 👍
Well thank you
but how did you know
I'm sure you are verry pretty too
Can you watch the lectures after the fact or are they livestream/in person only?
They are recorded. You can watch them afterwards.
@@ApostateProphet Thank you for the response.
Keep up the good work!
@@Alisalah_24 and this is why Muslims never learn
@@Alisalah_24
And he also said , mostly mormon n Abdoolism whose use his opinion to attack christianity .. wow what a coincidence 😂😂
@@ApostateProphet Just saw you interviewing Ert Bartman the most confused christian turned into an atheist because of a lots of readings.
Because of the presence of Satan and his demons in human life the real truth of Christianity and who is Jesus got distorted.
In the 2nd century wrong belief went out from certain people that resulted in 2 breakup churches.
One kept the faith and the other manufactured gossip that resulted in Catholicism and then the islam.
Catholicism and Islam is the same thing that put forth lies by force.And that resulted in your problem and ert bartman's problem to be confused.
Why then muhammad called Jesus the Kalam (Paigam of God) or kalimatullah.
And also RoohAllah meaning the Eternal life of God? That makes him God!!!
Then in another place muhammad wrote that Jesus is just a paigambar and not Paigam or kalam or message of God.
Messenger and message are 2 different things and separate in kind.
Messenger only delivers the message.
The God of Israel became Man.John: 1: 1-14 here Jesus being the Word kalam and creator became Man the message and choose the messenger John the baptist to introduce him to the people Israel.Just like the Prophet of old brought the word of the Lord to the people and were carriers.
Muhammad was a false carriers.He just connected to the christianity railway tract a cross over line to a another tract called islam by hatred.That resulted in eternal death tract.
Today there are 2 types of christianity,the real and the false one.
Dont forget that muhammad's first inlaws were catholics and the making of islam was intentional to destroy the real christianity.
It still exists today. And you will find there the mighty miracles are still happening,the lame walking the blind are seeing the dead being raised to life in the 21st century just as Jesus promised them that he would do this through them.
If you want to see this true church then answer me on this platform.I will send you the link.
Christianity is much better than Islam
You need to compare 1st century Christianity to 7th century Islam.
Islam was initially a warrior cult, while Christianitys core message revolved around salvation.
@k. it’s not going to happen because it’s not politically correct to challenge Islam. Whenever you try to raise genuine issues, annoying leftists and Muslims will just scream “ISLAMOPHOBE” until you shut up.
@k. secularists aren’t going to force anything though. It has to be an internal change. You’re wrong secularists didn’t force Christianity to change during the industrial revolution idk where u got that from. Christianity started to change after the Protestant reformation. After people started reading the Bible for themselves they realized how much the church was abusing their authority so the church was forced to reform. The difference with Islam is that Muslim countries are not abusing their authority as sharia law is in accordance with Quran and Hadith. So there will never be a widespread enlightenment within Islam
@k. of course when I say the Protestant reformation I don’t mean it happened overnight. It was a process. My point is there would be no secularism without the Protestant reformation. It set the precedent for the age of enlightenment
@k. an Islamic enlightenment is necessary to fully secularize the Muslim world but like I said that can’t happen because honest Muslims know that Islam permits what goes on in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Praise you Lord Jesus. ,💜have mercy on the people that don't know you. In your mighty name.
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Amen
Amen..its the matter of the heart
Jesus the lord is a myth, can’t believe people follow such mythical lies. 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂
@@hbrotha1866 then prove your point
Loved this. Probably my favourite thing you have done so far. Great guest and your interview questions were fantastic!
You covered so much in half an hour. Well done.
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Bart just disproved Christianity.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@livinia296 and he tell to follow what😅😅
@@livinia296 how come bart ehrman clearly stated that Jesus Christ was crucified and also his disciples believed in his divinity after his resurrection.......how come it will destroy Christanity?
@@james-yf9wm Yes!! Someone was cruxified on the cross but it wasn't Jesus. Allah saved Jesus from cruxifiction and raised him up to the heavens.
Qur'an 4:157-158
"It was made to appear to them so"
You do realise Bart just laid waste to Christianity and confirmed the basic understandings of Islam right? That at the time nobody thought of Jesus (peace be upon him) devine and just a Prophet? And confirmed the preservation of the Qur'an and corruption of the Bible?
What exactly are you do "please" of from this? It's incredibly embarrassing!
That interview defo hurt apostate,
Its funny how all the Abduls in the comment section are changing their tune now about Bart Erhman. " We never used Bart Erhman to prove Islam right, we just used him to show the Bible was corrupted. Even tho he said numerous times that the textual variants within the New Testament have zero affect on Christian doctrine. Its amazing how these Abduls mind work. They are completely delusional just like their prophet lol.
I respect Dr.Ehram's knowledge of the gospel. but I don't understand when he says at 26:38 when he says that Jesus didn't expect to get crucified contradicts that Jesus foretold him to go to Jerusalem and the Chief priest would get a hold of him and hand over to be killed and be raised again which is reported in all 4 gospels. Luke 13:33; Matthew 16:21; Matthew 17:22; Mark 8:31
I wonder how he came to that conclusion?
He thinks that those sayings of Jesus were later inventions.
And also in 1 Corinthians (which is he oldest dated book of the New Testament), Paul says that Jesus was crucified ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES. That means the Christian belief at the time of 1st Corinthians was not just that Jesus was crucified, but that this crucifixion was foretold in the Old Testament already written, yet he says he doesn't believe Jesus knew He would be crucified.
Bart Ehrman says foolish things like this all the time, and if you put him under scrutiny, he won't defend his wacky claims.
@@donnyjones5600 I love how your evidence of a religion is the religion itself.😂😂 you are the same as Muslims
@@Lovethyself887 Bart Ehrman is asserting that Jesus Himself didn't know that He would be crucified BECAUSE he thinks all references to Jesus having knowledge of this are later additions to the Gospels. 1 Corinthians is the oldest dated book in the New Testament predating all four Gospels BY ATHEIST SCHOLARS, this is THEIR consensus on my religion. And in 1st Corinthians, Paul says that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures. The whole point is that if the Christians during the writings of the oldest dated book of the New Testament believed that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures that proceeded Him and foretold the suffering of the Christ, and the entering into His glory, on what foundation is Bart Ehrman now saying this was a later addition to Christianity?
You're just an atheist repeating talking points you've been indoctrinated with, follow the argument logically next time, or don't comment.
@@Lovethyself887 if you don't know lol Bart Ehram is a new testament scholar and he says Gospels are mostly accurate. so you put 2 and 2 together.
As a Muslim I want to thank APUS for bringing bart ehrman lol
ha,ahaaa El hamdulillahi BRO.
Looking snazzy ap!
I used to be an atheist, however the Power of the Holy Spirit touched me few years back without and preaching from anyone. I used to recall believing anything an expert atheist would say without doing the research myself, or believing random youtubers who debunk the reality of Jesus Christ by misreperestig, wether they do it intentionally or not. I pray for the conversion of the atheists of the world. By that way, I am not saying that someone who believes in Jesus is better than anyone else (I met some "interesting" Christians myself) however what I am saying is that once you walk the path of Light you can't go back to darkness. God bless you all.
What exactly happened that made you realise Christianity was true?
@@WintersunExtras a miracle (physical) occurred in the name of Christ in my life, didn't just occur to me but also various family members and friends, long story.
@@SF-ow5ru It's alright, I don't expect you to explain the whole story. The part that would interest me is the part where Christianity is reliably demonstrated to be true.
I'm highly skeptical of religious people who claim to be a former Atheists, they unfailingly show that their previous Atheism did not have a skeptical basis, and if it had then they wouldn't have become Christians. So I'd like to see if you're an exception to this.
touched you all of a sudden? I call that B$
@@SF-ow5ru
how did you know it was from Jesus and not fr Budha or from zradicht?
Awesome interview, love this guy. What a funny way to bring his points over, made me laugh out loud multiple times. 😄
Why is Bart Herman given so much of importance??? He neither knows the Bible nor does he know the Quran. He just rants as he pleases 😃😃
ALL HAIL KING JESUS!!! OUR LORD AND GOD!!!
Amen!
The plural of Jesus is Jesusai, some people like to say Jesuses, but those people are wrong.
I enjoyed watching that and found it quite entertaining! What disappointed me most, was not Bart's distortion of the Christian message, but his clever way of avoiding saying anything contrary to Islam or the Quran, even though he will be well aware of the fabrications of both! My "take away" from this is that Bart is more concerned about avoiding any 'trouble' with Muslims, than he is about giving an honest educated opinion about Islam and the Quran, however much predicated with a disclaimer of "I'm not an expert in Islam or the Quran". He could have given an educated opinion on for instance the difference between Jesus's teachings and message, from that found in the Quran, or the differences between the documented Jesus and the documented Mohammed....but he avoided doing so, because he wanted to remove himself from any criticism for giving such an opinion. Where he did give an opinion, these were so carefully crafted as to not contradict anything Islamic, that his opinions on this were virtually USELESS! - I think Bart should have been a Politician as with his Diplomatic skills, he would have excelled in any TV or Press interview, with these tactics!
Yes, he avoided criticize Islam - its cowardly, but it can be lethal to talk bad about Mohammedanism in contrast to criticize Christianity. As Agnostic I respect peaceful religions like Christianity or Buddhism that contains much wisdom. Mohammedanism should be erased by all means.
You are listening!!!!! 👌👌👌👌👌
Lot of these air heads Christians commenting didn't even notice bart just disproved Christianity.
@@livinia296 The one to speak first seems right until someone comes forward and questions them.
@@jessek9675 He can't criticize Islam. Its the truth!!!😂
@@livinia296 Bart Ehrman didn't "disprove" Christianity - he disproved Islam! You see, the Quran claims that Jesus wasn't crucified, but Bart Ehrman has said this is wrong and fabrication. According to Muslims, if even one thing is wrong in the Quran or a contradiction, the whole Quran is wrong and cannot be from God. Bart Ehrman has confirmed that the Quran is in error in Surah 4:157, as I have long known.
Clicking on this video brought up an add for donating to Muslim causes...how ironic. I appreciate the content AP. I hope that you come to Christ one day.
Excellent interview. I’ve been watching Dr. Ehrman debates lately and was excited to see this on your channel.
That awkward moment when Muslim apologists realize Bart provides more evidence for the historical Jesus than the Muslim version of Jesus.
@Isaac13 Abraham It's important to note that Jesus knew He was going to suffer in Jerusalem and predicted His own death. (Matthew 16:21-23, Mark 8:31-32, and Luke 9:21-22, Matthew 17:22-23, Mark 9:30-32, and Luke 9:43-45, Matthew 20:17-19, Mark 10:32-34, and Luke 18:31-34)
You have misinterpreted the words 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'. In fact, this statement from Jesus originated from his immense love for men and His realization that despite His suffering and sacrifice, that God's justice deprived Him of the
salvation of the reprobate and the redemption of their souls. The same can be said with Jesus' statement 'I thirst'; as much as Jesus certainly had a physical thirst, He was referring to a 'thirst' for the salvation of souls.
God never abandoned Jesus, as He manifested Himself through the stirring of all Creation (resuscitating the dead, thunder, earthquakes, splitting of the Temple veil, etc etc)
@@michelpapineau8868 When Jesus said: “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” He was referring to Psalm 22, which is a Messianic psalm in which the Messiah would be crushed, this comes true on the cross
That there are more historical evidence that Jesus existed than Muhhamad existed. LOL
@Isaac13 Abraham
You say that, but your so-called holy books claim He wasn't crucified. So which is it?
@@wandering_circles7487 David Wood from Acts17Apologetics actively speculates if Muhammad did even exist or if he is just a construct of OPEC XD
Great talk! Love both of You
@Mansoor Ahmad Bart confirms Jesus was crucified. you forgot to add that.
He also said that the virgin birth was a legend, you forgot to add that.
And then you lied that the letters of Paul are misinformation. At this point I doubt u can. actually listen to a conversation carefully.
Saying people doubt the authorship of a document doesn't mean the information in it is false.
Yet you didn't mention that there indisputable fact that Paul wrote some of this.
Jesus gave me the power to avoid unwanted things,He is worthy to be praise💪
@@satellitekhan2300 Don't forget that Bart is not the supreme wisdom: he is a scholar amongst many others and he may be wrong about some subjects.
@@satellitekhan2300 We cannot know what Jesus really taught and believed because he didn't write anything. What Bart claims, and he may be right, is that the 4 canonical gospels may have been in a certain way distorted, based on the assumption that oral traditions have tendency to be somehow distorted and the 4 canonical christians gospels are based in oral traditions. But , this said, there's no clear proof on that issue.
Moreover the quran has also some material collected from the apochryphal christian gospels and these are much less accurate than the 4 canonical gospels because they were written much later.
@@satellitekhan2300 Apochryphal christian books are not part of the Bible, are spurious texts rejected by mainstream christianity. The very idea that Jesus wasn't crucified is found in gnostic christian writings like those of Basilides and Valentinus; Bart made reference to that in this video. So, it is clear that the quran lacks of originality. So, I didn't said that the quran was copied from the bible. Actually it is more complex than that.
And let me tell you that the quran cannot correct the Bible, cause his author doesn't really know the Bible, but just a few of its contents.
And Muhammad had friends like Waraqa ibn Naufal, the christian elder, Salman the persian who teach him zoroastric contents and even Mary the coptic, his wife, by whom he had access to some apocryphal gospels.
To say that the quran resembles the bible, because it came from God it is just a matter of belief that nobody can prove. It is like if you say that the bible is the word of God. It is purely subjective.
@@satellitekhan2300 You should laugh of your statements .Waraqa was a relative of Khadija as you said but Muhammed met him personally and talked to him in many occasions and likely was instructed by him.
The aledged illiteracy of Muhammed is part of the muslim legend about him, and probably is not accurate. And even if he was illiterate he certainly had ears, eyes and intelect to understand what people say.
Concerning Noah and the story of the flood it was borrowed from the Gilgamesh epics. So, both the Bible and the Quran were inspired by ancient legends.
I have nothing to learn from you, because your cultural level is irrelevant to me.
Fundamentalists like you use to be arrogant. I'm not here to be educated by you. If you have vocation to teach go and teach your fellow muslims and spare me to your arrogance.
Talibans, Daesh and others call themselves true muslims, because they know they pratice fully Islam including slavery of women, amongst other inhuman and barbaric practices. I'm convinced the world would be a better place without Islam. If there are good people amongst muslims it is despite Islam and not because of Islam.
@@satellitekhan2300 as per your claim, he also confirmed that Jesus was crucified which you don't believe and contradict the fact that all Muslim's view is destroyed in matter of seconds. ☺️
acts 4:13 simply says they were unschooled. To take that to mean illiterate is a huge, huge jump. It could simply mean "not scholars". There are a lot of degrees between these.
Bart's laugh cheered me up right away.
What a guy
Apuss shooting his own foot lmao
AP , I think you should interview FAZALE " Fuz " RANA an ex- Muslim who became a Christian in college and is a Biochemist that just wrote the book -- Fit for a Purpose.
Does the Anthropic Principle include Biochemistry?
Jesus was the first documented person to be called a Rabbi.
“Probably couldn’t read” lol
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue
Luke 4:14-22
Esv
Jesus Begins His Ministry
14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor.
(AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind,
(AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
Jesus was writing in a sand when Mary Magdalen was brought to him.At twelve he was teaching in a temple he called his father house.So Bart got facts wrong.
Yeah, he said several things that I probably could correct. This is my first time hearing him and I already don't rate him.
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue
Luke 4:14-22
Esv
Jesus Begins His Ministry
14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor.
(AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind,
(AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
On oral traditions, the Gunditjmara from Australia have an oral tradition about a mountain spitting fire and local rivers moving.
They incorporate this into their local beliefs and legends, but recently it was discovered that the mountain was an active volcano that erupted 37,000 years ago.
Their knowledge of the past path of the river was also surprisingly accurate.
I'm not saying that this makes all oral traditions true, but that it certainly gives credence to the idea that oral traditions contain at least a grain of truth.
It certainly suggests that many legends may have been originally based on real world events
Congratulations on scoring this interview!
It's a kick in the teeth to Christians.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@livinia296 Sorry to pop your ignorant bubble, but Bart Erhman is just repeating what Biblical Scholars (most of whom are Christians) have long known, and which the vast majority of Christians (Catholic, Orthodox & liberal Protestants) accept with no problem at all. It's only wacky Protestant Fundamentalists who are threatened by it. In fact, Erhman's own loss of faith had nothing to do with his Biblical scholarship, but with his struggle dealing with the Problem of Evil.
I like bart's laughter, if he does a collab with mufti abu layth, it'll be a beautiful comedy
Total respect to Bart Erhman who has shared his expertise as a New Testament scholar.
Just a reminder to Bart...as you said that the 4 gospels are histrocally authentic and reliable, didnt you remember Jesus reading the scroll of Isaiah in the synagogue? ...So that makes Jesus literate.
Everything that Bart said in this interview do make sense...He thinks Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, some followers think Jesus is worthy of worship...the only difference is that---he doesnt/couldnt believe what the gospel says.
Thank You AP! We value your contribution to our ministry. lolz. hugs!
Watch it again...he did not say they authentic and accurate....even goes as far as to say some stories in the Bible are made up
I am often confused at Barts’ lack of knowledge of extrabiblical writings about Christ from pre Nicene Christians
The only thing I will add is that when it comes to the “great diversity within early Christianity,” what is often left out of such statements is the degree to which each expression was represented. As Bart said, the four gospels of the NT are all from the 1st century and are the most authentic. Any competing “Christianity” that came later was based on a much later writing with a theology divorced from the original Jewish context, and much less represented. Consider how much more the gospels of the NT were copied and read versus any other “gospel” that came later. The gospels of the NT were far more in number by a long shot. No other deviant expression of the faith comes close in scope or degree of representation. So it’s not as if there were all these different christianities that were all equal in representation. There was definitely a core representation that was the majority by far, and deviating movements were much smaller in scale. It was the four gospels of the NT that the vast majority of Christians followed from the 1st century on.
@Mansoor Ahmad
1. He confirms the Quran is preserved but compares its preservation to that of Mein Kamf (in other words, it’s preservation is irrelevant since it doesn’t proof anything and was the act of men).
2. Bart only confirms that the Disciples and Jesus were Jews, not Muslims (basically Messianic Jews).
3. Christians knew and still know this, but apply the concept of Son of God differently just like the Bible does (for the concept of Son of God doesn’t mean the same when it’s applied to prophets or angels as the Bible shows).
4. He doesn’t say they’re false, he says that they weren’t written by Paul himself. They could still be dictated or based on what Paul said. And even with this problematic of the authorship, the other seven books of Paul are confirmed to be originally written or dictated by Paul.
Way to take things out of context you Islamist, read about Christianity before slandering it.
159 black stone smoochers disliked so far..
The Gnostics had a very mean view of Jesus
Bart Ehrman is hilarious, maybe this will stop Muslims from quoting him, but I doubt it.
I still disagree with the way he categorizes the gospels, any lay person can see the difference between the writing styles of the gospel and mythical works of antiquity. He keeps suggesting (perhaps to himself) that the gospel writers were some how bound to truth, while deifying a figure they already viewed as divine. It doesn’t make sense especially since within a few decades the community had already spread hundreds of miles.
Actually Bart erhman think that literacy here mean that you can’t read and write but I don’t think so but literacy have something to do with someone who knew the law of the Jews like anyone who reach the secondary school of the Jews where these people are doctor of the law. And as Paul come from a Pharisee school where they are expert on the law unlike Peter and John who probably were just at the primacy school of the Jewish Pharisee. In that sense Peter and John weren’t educated and Peter and John as many Jews would know how to read and write. Because the Jews at the young age are trained in the religious belief by their written tradition and oral tradition
#Allah said Jesus was not crucified
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝗵𝗶𝗺; 𝗯𝘂𝘁 [𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿] 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗺 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻.
Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise)
🎵 Ehrman said that it was okay
Ehrman said that it was quite alright 🎵
First opening sentence and Bart compares Muslims to Mormons😂
Joseph Smith = Muhammad ibn Abdullah
Why do Islamic center fundraiser ads show up on your video lolololllll
His laughter is the best 😂
😁😃😃
Did this guy read
Luke 4:16 ?
he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up to read.
Luke 4:16
I am christian and I love this interview (I haven't finished the video yet)
He's lying.
@@isaacleillhikar4566 who? Me
I am catholic Romain, I perhaps know more references of the Quran than the bible but it doesn't mean that I am not.
I like people who have point of view and argument. I prefer a communist with strong conviction with who we can argue that a guy with my point of view without arguments.
AP is a honest guy and I like that. the atheist guy, I don't him much. I have seen this video and the one with the man who spit very often and have no argument expect his diploma
Bart just disproved Christianity!!!
Listen carefully.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Alisalah_24 yes he disapprove the bible and why I should dislike the content? It s not the reason? He have more arguments than Muslim I have heard for years. How you can really believe in something if you don't listen to your opposite beleive?
Listen Muslim about Christianity it s like listen a kid who try to explain something that his mom explain. It doesn't count.
@@livinia296 and? Disagree with someone doesn't mean that I should dislike the content?
I love the content of AP, the content of CP and both aren't catholic. CP explain why catholics is false from his point of view, I enjoy his point of view because he have argument.
It s not an angry man who is non rational and can't hear the other point of view.
If.you can't listen the opposite point of view, you have trouble with your beleive.
Very good interview, the questions and answers were very interesting. Thank you :)
Thank you Ap
Don't thank AP yet. He lied about islam to you christians,
(1). At 15:45 min, AP said, 'the islamic account (of the crucifixion) is very strange; ie. the muslim think that jesus is not crucified but somebody else is crucified, it was not jesus but people thought that it was jesus. It is very strange'. What did dr erhman reply?
(2). Dr erhman said, 'that thinking did not start with the muslim. In fact, it was started by christian teacher by the name of basilides (140 AD) who wrote in his gospel but we don't have that gospel anymore'.
(3). See how AP lied about islam. On jesus crucifixion, the quran 4:157 says, "And their (the jews) saying, 'we slew the messiah, jesus, son of mary', the messenger of allah, whereas in fact, they had neither slain him nor crucified him but the matter was made dubious to them and those who differed about it too were in a state of doubt! They have no definite knowledge of it, but merely follow conjecture and they surely slew him not'.
(4). Did the quran says anything about such strange thing that AP said? No, yet AP said so and he is lying to the christians, not muslims (because muslims already knew he was lying); whilst, in fact, it is the christian teacher basilide who wrote such a strange thing.
(5). Why do you think the christian did not keep the gospels by basilides? Do you think the muslims who destroy that gospel?
As a muslim, I have absolutely no problem with what this interview "exposes". Thanks AP, I will continue using Bart Ehrman as proof against Christianity :)
Absolutely... I've got more positive ammo now and more certainty that Christianity is more problematic and man made than I ever expected looooooool
@@froggy8301 LOL right?!
They think that “additions” to the text doesn’t make the text corrupted. I was crying of laughter.
Best parts:
“The Qur’an has been faithfully copied”
“There are stories in the gospels that are most certainly made up.”
“The earliest followers of Jesus thought he was a human and that he worshipped 1 God.”
“Son of god is used for various beings, humans, representatives of God on earth.”
“6 of Pauls writings are doubted by scholars.”
“In the earliest centuries there’s a lot of diversity within Christianity.”
“There were a lot of controversial views floating around in the first 2 centuries.”
Pure GOLD
They think we think that the Injil was a written book… poor AP, all of these refutations and solid knowledge from a practising ex-muslim and still no understanding about what muslims actually believe. Miskeen
@@axis2312 I was just noting down most of the above, Jzk brv you saved me time! lol
What amazes me is how gullible these minions are taking this A Puss as some kind of an academic saviour loool. I love the bit where Bart Ernham says he's just not qualified enough to speak about Islam, loooooooooooool
@@froggy8301 He literally thinks this interview showed us something we didn’t know LOL! How can someone be so blind? I just feel sorry for him, all of this hate is a cry for help. I think he’s lost. The problem is I think he knows Islam in true. There isn’t anything that hasn’t been explained to him using logic. I heard him say once “if God knew I would be like this, then why would he condemn me to hellfire?” All the while knowing that he has the free will to change his mind and his ways. I hope he comes back to his senses, because this interview was an epic fail and all of his arguments have been addressed. Anyyyyway. Salam brother :)
@@axis2312 hear hear! WalaiukumAsalam 🤲🏼🙏🏼
Of course Jesus could write ...he was Christ for goodness sake in his last year's everything was revealed to him...duh
new International version Gospel Of John 16:13-1413 But when he, the Spirit of truth,(A) comes, he will guide you into all the truth.(B) He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.
Not prove of Jesus(p:) Told about the coming of last Prophet?...
I wonder what his response would be about the the Quran verses 66:12, 19:28, where Allah wrongly refers to Mary as daughter of Imran and sister of Aaron?
He's an atheist, so he doesn't believe in any stories about the divine origin of the Quran, so he would probably say that the Quran's author(s) got it wrong because they're dumb.
Disagree with Bart that Jesus was expecting for God to set up his kingdom on the earth during his lifetime. If Jesus’ words are accurate, he was quoted as saying, “my kingdom is not of this world, else would my followers fight.”
Bart said Jesus was illiterate. (just like Prophet Mohammed pbuh!!!!!)
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Christians are not happy!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Bart also said Jesus was s great teacher.. And he also preached in Temples, but sure if u think he could not read. BTW muhammed could read 📚.. its a lie that he could not.
@@sunnysleep7850 No!! he was illiterate. The Qur'an was revealed to him through Angel Gabriel. The Qur'an is the speech of Allah.
@@livinia296 lol.. So why did he ask for paper and a pen to Write on. ✍ why did the cave demon as him to read. 3 times.. you have been lied to.. 😆🤣😂😹..
So much better than the talk between MH and Dr. Ehrman. AP did not cut Dr. Ehrman off and let him finish his point, simply asking questions and giving him time, as should be. You learn when you listen, not talk :)
What could the part time hen night stripper do. Bart 💩 all over the Quran and it's fake Jesus story.
he literally destroyed Christianity 😀 thanx to the apuss. and your youtube profile picture is good 👍 is this picture of your father or grandfather? you both are looking same
Sieht wie ein teuer erkauftes Interview aus, bei der vielen Werbung… aber es war es wert!
Islam is never right about anything
AP you see,when you asked Bart about why the Jesus's apostles claimed about ressurection he didn't give us an actual clarity about the ressurection he simply skipped..
Is Ehrman an Atheist?
Yes
I hope you can get a Messianic Jew to discuss how Jesus fulfilled Jewish prophecies. Would have a whole other perspective, things that nonjewish Christians don’t even think about.
Here. I'm a messianic Jew. I responded to Aron Ra about this very thing.
th-cam.com/video/6s9KQec7x30/w-d-xo.html
I think Bart have to explain Why he thinks Jesus was expecting the start of the kingdom immediately, because the Bible consistently point in the opposite direction.
That scene of helping someone carry their cross...that was in Life of Brian!! Monty Python is the truth!!!!!!!!!
The intro was fantastic 😂😂
It is good that M Ehman has just ended apostate's carrier by agreeing with most muslim beliefs about christianity. .
Thanks for exposing the falsehood in Christianity AP! You need to bring on more accredited scholars to debunk the histrocity of Christianity and its major flaws
Atheists are going to more about God of the Bible than we do? Nah..How about impress us and read the Whole Bible they sure won't be in confusion anymore and will Praise Jesus..They just have no idea
No falsehood Only Jesus is Truth the Life and the Way Amen!
@@jessicaseabolt5178 Plenty of Atheists have read the whole Bible and remain unconvinced. What possible realisation could a skeptic have after reading the whole thing?
@@WintersunExtras No..Cherry picked is NOT reading it! I know thus by what they say and wouldn't be so confused..I guarantee they have not..The Holy Word gives life! OT even the prophets predicted Jesus coming in the Flesh and Resurrecting! After Resurrecting 500ppl witnessed Jesus even to doubting Thomas who had to see Jesus to believe and did once he did,Jesus said to Thomas because you have seen and yet believed,but blessed are those who have not seen but yet believed! The fall of Jerusalem happened because of this and Christians were sought out to be persecuted after the witnessing, Jesus had the first 12 and after Resurrection it grew.. the enemies feared this to get out but spread like wildfire. Isaiah and Psalms read that about Jesus coming in the Flesh it was all predicted before Jesus came..and the 4 gospels is of the Good News that we are Saved through Grace and under a New Covenant through Jesus
@@WintersunExtras Thomas said my Lord and My God after witnessing! The reason of the Crucifixion was because Jesus said He and the Father are One! Saying He was God and the Jews New this so mocked Him..its why Jesus came to save His ppl because they were lost..First to the Jew then the Gentile.. The NT is about Jesus birth to His whole life of teachings and Miracles to direct us to the Way to God! His sacrifice for His children to make a bridge to God through sharing in our sufferings as we share in His to Resurrection and conquering death..Without knowing the Son then you will not know the Father who sent Him..Because He came lower than the angels and humbled Himself down showing His Love for Man who He put first as we should put Him first..All Glory to God our Lord and Savior may He reign on High and has shown all His mercy for we know the Lord is Good all the Time. Forever our King of kings and Lord of lords,The Alpha and Omega the First and Last🙌🙌🙌🙌 Praise Jesus! Our Kingdom Come thy will be done!
8. The 4 Gospels are the most authentic Gospels.
The oldest as good as you can get Gospels, which are still problematic, copy of a copy of copy of a copy with the original missing.
Only Pauls' letter go back to him. The self proclaimed apostle..
The protoevangelium of James and Infancy gospel of Thomas are both gnostic sources.
Muslim friends, I understand it is shocking to discover that your long held beliefs, and the beliefs of your family, relatives, ancestors and culture, are wrong. But you don’t have to despair. God has now given you the chance to believe again. In Jesus, the Truth. Take this opportunity.
I would be worried if the 4 gospels were the same. For me, the fact that there are slight differences makes them reliable. The so-called differences is due to the fact that 4 people seeing the same event will never present it in the exact (same) words. If there were no subtle and insignificant differences, I would think it was a concerted attempt to water down the message by copying verbatim from each other. If you know a bit of history and understand oral tradition as a source of history, you certainly understand where I am coming from. If you asked two people how someone died--one would start from his collapse at home while the other may start from what happened at the hospital. The fact that one did not mention a particlar issue does not necessarily mean it didn't happen.
Hahahaha
Apus: I am a legend I got the Dr to have a discussion with me. I will now destroy islam
Dr Bart- I intend to destroy Christianity instead
Apus after interview - I wish I never conducted this discussion
Christians- I believe Jesus is God even though my scriptures have 100000 discrepancies ( according to Bart)
Muslims - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂 😂 in which mental hospital are you staying? Did you even watch the video?
Bart Ehrman is saying ..."There's so much errors and contradictions in the Bible But the rest of the Bible is ok... it's just like saying the measuring scale of the ruler has errors but you can still use it for measurement 🤦♂️
Bad analogy
Apuss Bart doesn't agree with Islam since he is an atheist. He also doesn't believe that Jesus died for anyone's sins plus the Quran says:
And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. ... Rather, God raised him up to Himself.
The reason why people believe Jesus died is since it appeared to them that way but certainly God saved him.
This makes perfect theological sense ie Bart himself said that it was utter nonsense that Jesus had to die for anyone's sin. And that this was invented after ie in his assumption.
AP, you indeed are the greatest troll to muslims. XD
Keep up the great work!!
So typical that these kind of conversations is hard to have with people from a certain other peaceful religion. Good job!!!
How many Dr Ehrman do you have and you can find his equivalent in Islam but you have to understand Arabic or Urdu or Bahasa Indonesia or Turkish
@@khalilbonjol8711 There is the difference. Christianity WANTS to be understood, or else it will all still be in Latin.
If God wanted me to join, He would not want me to learn Arabic first.
Also... dont the Arabs dislike the texts to be preached in any other language then Arabic? You are not making a strong case at all, all I hear is "only the elite (arab, bahasa, uru speaking) can join"... andd even among those groups there is hatered towards each other... not much peace to be found there
@@Fudi-La Critiques of the Quran are found written by muslims in the major languages of the muslims. There is no inter-group conflict. There is conflict caused by differences in the interpretation of the Quran and is among members of the same linguistic group. Often members of these groups use Arabic if they wish to embrace a bigger audience to be involved in the differences. In Islam there is no monolithic or monopoly authority to resolve theological differences on a global scale. The closest equivalent is bounded by the boundaries of the nation state. There is no Council of Nicea, for example.
@@khalilbonjol8711 Maybe a council of Nicea is in order for islam ^-^
@@greyngreyer5 Actually practically all that is important and crucial in Islam has passed the various tests of the so-called Councils with participants who actually were present when Muhammad was alive and not discussed by clever than thou later followers.
Bart is clever and hilarious at the same time. I'll try to remember to explode in laughter like him the next time I hear religious bullshit from theists. They usually do not listen to reason, but this kind of laughter is pure mic drop
Kinda like atheists believing rocks magically came to life?
Ya, I laugh pretty hard too.
@@atheismisamentaldisorder1839 yeah, right. Let me react to your observation, just as Bart does: Mouhahahahahahahaha
@@koljarzg So, basically you can't come up with a rebuttal like Bart.
@@atheismisamentaldisorder1839 I just did. Want another one? Here: Mouhahahahahahaha!
@@koljarzg Well, it shows how much depth of thought you actually give to the topic.
I guess, it's just easier to make things up to justify yourself.
1 Timothy 4:10 - The New International Version (NIV)
10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
11. Christians until the 7th century believed in Jesus as God and/or Son of God."
wait, what?? hahahaha. And what after 7th century? they didnt?? Is that the context cause we have pretty much evidences from history from that centry, and dogma of Christian Church , which was one holy and apostolic (Catholic) and contained 99% of those who called themslefs christians, was that Jesus is God.
I think that should read "before" rather than "until", since the topic of discussion in that segment was what Christians before the time of Mohammed believed.
While I watch your channel all the time and like all your videos AP, this one I won't watch or like as bart erman claims to have been a christian and a bible scholar (Which he never was) and muslims use him to discredit the bible. You don't ask an athiest weither the bible is true or not, they will always say not. Erman is NOT an expert on the bible.
Don't be like Muslims who only believe in their scholars. Be different. Lol
He is an expert on the New Testament, and he explains here specifically how the facts disagree with the Islamic claims.
He has multiple degrees and he knows ancient Hebrew and Greek. No offense, but he is an expert on the bible, and I doubt you will realize the hypocrisy of what you said when you probably lack all these things.
You also don't ask a Muslim if the Qur'an is true or not, of course it would always be true to him, even if his knowledge on the Qur'an is absurd.
I would wager a higher bet on Ehrman's view compared to the Muslims who conclude only by emotions without any academic substance.
You're missing out! I've watched hours of Dr. Ehrman's debates and interviews, I've read his articles, I listen to atheists and Christians alike discuss his material- being familiar with Dr. Ehrman's work is invaluable as a Christian, especially to be able to answer objections to our faith.
Hi! How about a joint venture between Apostate Prophet, Islam Critiqued, and Apologetics Roadshow on the topic on the notion of "Abrahamitic Religions"
As I meet the topic in discussions it is used as a way of criticizing Judaism and Christianity for not being generous about islam.
According to the notion all three religions have the same god, scriptures, personage and ideas and that the personage is active in all religions.
Your differences would make the topic easier to spread and would even give good knowledge about all three religions. I'll send this message to all of you.
Painful to watch… Jesus came with a message cal Injil which is evenglion or Évangile in french for example. The Quran is not strictly a book bécasse it MEANS à récitation.. Same for Jesus… BUT there was a book that contain all the sayings of jesus AND not the testimony of the apostée!!
Oops just read this after I commented on your other post! :)
@Jesus Or Muhammad …which gospel? Mark’s, Matthews, Luke’s, John’s or the self-proclaimed Apostle Paul’s? The ‘Injil’ is the words of Jesus, in his Aramaic tongue, not the amended bible you have today :). So yes, when you do find it, let us know and we shall affirm it and follow the final revelation as commanded by Allah
@Jesus Or Muhammad Blabla… you pick and choose what fits your narrative in the Quran but fail to take into account the whole picture? How stupid is that? Furthermore you do not believe in Islam or the Quran STILL you want to win some point by referring to its content? How stupid is that?
We are ex-christians converts to Islam and like muslims we believe in Jesus as a prophet who came with a good news and the word of God coming out of his mouth like the Quran which is a recitation, a recital of the words of God…
You don’t have a leg to stand on still you tell me Christians don’t care of Muslim opinions?
YOU ARE LIARS.. you twist the truth to trick naive people BECAUSE the Quran says people at the time of Jesus claimed he was killed on the cross (even though Allah/God said they did not defeat him) and you pretend the Quran is in conflict with historical facts… YOU ARE LIARS… and lying about religion speaks volume of a feeble kind of faith in the veracity of your claims.. Shame on you…
Once upon a time.......
Christians say Ehrman understands the Qur'an and shows its flawed
Muslims say Ehrman understands the Bible and shows its flawed
They then watch his criticism of thier holy book:
Muslims say Ehrman doesn't understand the Qur'an
Christians say Ehrman doesn't understand the Bible
Then they respond to the other:
Christians say Muslims are stupid and lying to themselves
Muslims say Christians are stupid and lying to themselves
They then reply to a comment saying eternity is a long time. The end
When did any Christian ever say that Ehrman knows anything about the Quran? It's something he almost never talks about, since it isn't even tangentially connected to his field.