CocoRosie criticize Lady Gaga for 'wrong portrayal feminism'

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  • @Epicurme
    @Epicurme 11 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Criticism of Gaga? Clever title if you want to get hits. But if people came here looking for reasons to dislike Lady Gaga, they're going to be disappointed. She's not really being criticised, so much as she is being used as an example of someone who does not know why the word feminism is used (not to exclude, but to highlight the examples of inequality.)
    What is said here is actually a proactive statement, I think. I don't think it sounds critical at all.

    • @valentinetrain839
      @valentinetrain839 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed

    • @mortiel84
      @mortiel84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually more than attack, she clarify that feminism doesn't mean hating men. But anyways.

  • @sistinia88
    @sistinia88 11 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    they need to change the title of this video they spoke out on so much more, why degrade them? I hate when the media does this... they misquote and try to devolve everyone's thought process, it's disgusting.

  • @strongdwarvenale
    @strongdwarvenale 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    the title of the video is misleading, gaga is mentioned as example, nothing more. the portion of the interview is about te feminist concepts behind their music, not about gaga in particular.

    • @TheTINKER5566
      @TheTINKER5566 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Joshu Amore Thanks for your comment. Because Lady Gaga is a music genius. And with out going any further I would of smashed her. And I just heard what she said/what you mean and your right and technical she's right. Provided Lady Gaga said that.

    • @Gazeld
      @Gazeld 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTINKER5566 To be correct, you should not imply that since someone does really good art he/she can't be wrong...

  • @MarkBenge
    @MarkBenge 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love women, I love men, we are all one,....

  • @nessihoi
    @nessihoi 11 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love bianca's speaking voice... it's so warm and calming.
    AND she's even talking true and beautiful things.

  • @gothsauceproductions5243
    @gothsauceproductions5243 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Why can't people just listen to the music, also I hate the word hipster to define anything that is original or non understandable from a pov. People need to grow up and stop labeling.

    • @TheEloquentEye
      @TheEloquentEye 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lil Mystikal I think a lot of people out there are worried that they are missing something, but instead of breaking ranks and trying something new they tend to get defensive and go the route of the Fox with the grapes.

    • @gothsauceproductions5243
      @gothsauceproductions5243 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mustafa Preşeva Haha, I was referring to this group's music in general not just this video particularly. I still stand by my comment about some people only see looks & get turned off, but not bothering to listen to the music which is easy to search for.

  • @Dean_Cooling
    @Dean_Cooling 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:48 what Bianca says is so true. I've a 2 yr old and 6 yr old daughter(s) and the eldest is starting talk about religion and discusses Jesus etc. Whilst I personally don't believe in any of it myself, I don't tell my daughter this as I want her to find her own views and beliefs, but one of the reasons I'm not keen on the idea is because I feel the same as what bianca states and I feel a lot of religion has been created, scribed etc with a heavy leaning towards male dominance. I'm trying to raise both my girls with a clear knowledge that they don't need anyone to provide for them, to make them dependant etc. They can get what they want theirselves, and I hope they will grow to be strong independent women who will know that it can be wonderful to have the love and companionship of a partner etc, but they don't need to be dependant on anyone financially etc as what is important can't be bought. No matter, I'm already a very proud father of both my girls.......

  • @georgethompson3763
    @georgethompson3763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Click bait title! I'm surprised Face Culture is doing that. I love Cocorosie, by the way.

  • @evilshoemaker
    @evilshoemaker 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't understand how her making money is relevant to the situation. Yes, she makes money. Yes she has power. But she is actually using her fame to show support for equality for all humans. I don't understand when people explain she is exploiting causes to gain fame. Supporting something - not matter what - is her own matter and opinions.Don't believe? then don't. It doesn't matter if you accept her support, she has the right on having her own opinions

  • @MarkBenge
    @MarkBenge 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I read the definition of a feminist I very much agree with the idea of equality, my only hesitation is the word, it should not be weighted towards male of female but both call it equalityism or bi-isim,...... we are all one :-)

    • @Xplorer228
      @Xplorer228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called egalitarianism.

  • @MrZapo09
    @MrZapo09 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poche persone posso realmente capire la strordinarietà di un'artista come Lady Gaga.

  • @Julzmaniac
    @Julzmaniac 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure we are! That's why it's important and only fair to be treated in an equal way. :)

  • @suetube6811
    @suetube6811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bravo,Cocorosie! Valid points all the way around!

  • @evilshoemaker
    @evilshoemaker 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lady Gaga considers herself a feminist because she believes in the equality between men and women, just like all other non-radical feminists. The quote "I'm not a feminist, I love men" was taken many years ago, and has for some reason arisen recently. Since then her opinions have changed clearly, and she has shown great support for women's rights (not in favor of her image, but because she's actually doing something with her fame).

  • @MarikoSan
    @MarikoSan 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Que voz tan dulce tiene Coco :3

  • @Sky_moondance
    @Sky_moondance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll save you time..Lady Gaga like them don't hate men and just because you're a feminist doesn't mean you do xo

  • @andycadventuresinsleep7302
    @andycadventuresinsleep7302 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love CocoRosie so so so much...re: the video , it wasn't Gaga that said she wasn't a feminist as she sees feminism as being about hating men, it was Katy Perry .
    Gaga's 100% pro-feminism and doesn't see it as man hating - see watch?v=8skCakDm1sM
    I'm not a Gaga fan but felt I should put that bit of info right

  • @ChaosGregor
    @ChaosGregor 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    not wondering about that, they just need to draw attention...gee it's unnerving

  • @tlorwrld
    @tlorwrld 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the title is twisting what Bianca actually said

  • @indrreee
    @indrreee 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    where can i watch the full videos of the clips that are shown in this? are they officially released?

  • @WelfareChrist
    @WelfareChrist 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If it makes them feel any better I've always thought that males assuming spiritual superiority (which is found in literally EVERY major world religion) is a result of jealousy at the fact that women give birth.

  • @diegomendiola2244
    @diegomendiola2244 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought it was about equality

  • @jamieappleseed552
    @jamieappleseed552 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You ladies are great. The celebration of the feminine. Right on.

  • @xxUtopia
    @xxUtopia 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Feminism today is not based on equal rights... it's about feminizing society. Spreading nurturing thoughts and love that are tied with the Goddess movement.

    • @katterfelto
      @katterfelto 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      For you, maybe.
      Not for the majority of us.

    • @JaneDoe-lm3nz
      @JaneDoe-lm3nz 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's bogus. The only difference between modern feminism and feminist movements in the past is that it also deals with the concepts of "femininity" and "masculinity", taking the position that women who are more "masculine" should not feel pressured by society to "feminize" themselves, and that men who are more "feminine" shouldn't have to change either. Its about not forcing anybody to be what they aren't because of gender binaries. (though if you happen to fit into a traditional conception of gender, that's just fine. Be that.) Its all about individuality. But this is just a single new element that seems to float around the movement. The focus is still basically just equality for both sexes (and intersexed people) socially and under law. (Self-Identified feminists today also talk about how men are discriminated against in child courts after divorce and other ways that they face sexism. Its just the people who have to deal with sexism the most are generally women and that the movement started out to get women the right to property and vote. That's why feminists focus more on women issues.) Those people who promote nurturing thoughts are often conservative mothers who are themselves very feminine who think society should cater to children (and who, by the way, are very unlikely to identify as feminists.)

    • @JaneDoe-lm3nz
      @JaneDoe-lm3nz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fincher Schlaue And celebrating femininity like she said is in no way a negative thing. Its not about make everything feminine. Its about respecting and appreciating the individuals who are, and seeing value in their femininity as we do in the masculinity of others. If respect for different kinds of people changes society, its doing it for good.

  • @zorrobaggins3202
    @zorrobaggins3202 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Winston Churchhill once said about Naziism: I am no Nazi, I love Jews. That illustrates an interesting misconception about Naziism."
    ---equally valid. It's pretty much just saying "Ideology A means what I think it means and everybody else has it wrong unless they agree with me.".

    • @zorrobaggins3202
      @zorrobaggins3202 11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then she defines feminism as being about the celebration of the feminine. So if we had ticker tape parades just for women, that would be feminism. So much for equality. No. We're just going to start 'celebrating the feminine'. Other feminists, CocoRosie seems to think that your 'equality' definition is a load of crap. I am inclined to agree with her.

    • @Xplorer228
      @Xplorer228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Winston Churchill wasn't a Nazi though. Lol. Your point would be taken if he was.

  • @lonw.7016
    @lonw.7016 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The neat thing. Feminism isn't a cut and dried opinion. There may be more than one opinion. And the old adage.... opinion are like... ears... there may be more than one.

  • @Youremythrill18
    @Youremythrill18 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The nepo aura is strong w em

  • @NigelDuncan
    @NigelDuncan 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are ALL the Ocean!

  • @ThatsmytoqueEh
    @ThatsmytoqueEh 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feminism is NOT hatred dude-o. Like anything else in the world, you'll have your extremists, and feminist extremists are the misandrists (those who hate men). Feminism itself does not encourage misandry. A feminist is someone who believes in gender equality; there's a lot of masculine ideals right now & many of them are far from being fair for all, hence why the term "feminism". Bringing a bit more femininity to the way the world thinks to balance everything out.

  • @KremIsis
    @KremIsis 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry Daniel if it is a long speech but I see you take it seriously so I'm trying to be clear. Female artists like Gaga give women a bad name by a distort use of their image. I named Madonna because she's one of the first who did it: and she was the best in doing it. Through the years, she followed every possible path, she proclaimed herself Buddhist, jewish, she practically pleased everyone offending everyone...

  • @experimentalactor
    @experimentalactor 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the look Bianca!

  • @squirrelsunboxing6655
    @squirrelsunboxing6655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the song?

  • @BillWiltfong
    @BillWiltfong 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If what gets called "feminism" were about "celebrating the feminine" then I'd be a male feminist deep to the core. But it's not.

  • @Dave-rn9xy
    @Dave-rn9xy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do they have native blood

  • @jntnjntn
    @jntnjntn 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ha, are you serious? change the title people

  • @InternalUseAvalible
    @InternalUseAvalible 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be funny if lady gaga was just being sarcastic when she said it and they took it all seriously

  • @FilipSoul
    @FilipSoul 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion Gaga isn't sure about the true concept of it, she considers it somewhere between feminism and homosexuality; and, if I'm not mistaking, she gives a rather big importance to sexual energy not understanding it doesn't make a change. OR she was just aiming at a certain mass in the world to get some money and then disappear step by step. Honestly, I never saw much devotion coming from her and I had a friend who constantly kept talking to me about her work

  • @keeeton
    @keeeton 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love the music they make, but I don't buy anything they say. They realized to make an impact in the music industry (to make money) they would have to sound STRANGE, from another planet. They took Bjork's "I grew up in a forest, no conventional tv, music etc..and made my own sounds" and made it into the North American version. "We don't watch tv or listen to music, we're crushing on each other." Really? Then how do you know Lady Gaga said X,Y or Z? I certainly don't know what Gaga says. They slip up every so often and completely contradict themselves. Every action, everything out of their mouths is so controlled and calculated. They're lucky to be pretty enough to make themselves into "freaks" and still be attractive. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

    • @meaganjmc
      @meaganjmc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +keeeton This is a stupid assumption to make. Do you think Cocorosie is making so much money off their music that it's why they do it? They aren't Lady Gaga rolling in cash. There are tons of "weird" bands and just because one reaches some semblance of recognition doesn't mean that was their motivator especially considering typically "weird" bands don't reach any sort of recognition. How can you use their knowledge of something Lady Gaga has said as an example of them being contradictory? It's not difficult to hear from others or in the outside world about things big celebrities have done or said. Most importantly is as feminists it's SUPER easy to hear from others about anti-feminist comments made in pop culture. "They're lucky to be pretty enough to make themselves into "freaks" and still be attractive". If ever there was an example of someone exemplifying what they are not about, it would be you ending your comment with this. Does this matter to you? Would you think they were not contradictory and were genuine feminists if they WERE'NT attractive?

    • @keeeton
      @keeeton 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +meaganjmc No, I think they wouldn't be popular enough for you to know about them. You might want to do research on "attractive vs. unattractive impact on money making." You miss the whole point and want to turn this into a feminist issue. Maybe you should read Susan Faludi's Backlash before you judge my opinion as "stupid." Why, because my my OPINION doesn't match yours I'm stupid? Way to go Ms. Liberal. Watch their other videos where they get asked what they're into right now, what music, what books... They reply that they don't listen to music or read books they're just crushing on each other right now. And don't talk to be about tons of "weird" bands and reaching recognition, I have a punk record label. Real punk, not Green Day. I work with artist who don't get "normal" recognition for what they do. And I promise you, they don't know what the fuck Gaga has said. Anti-feminist statements, anti-punk statements or not. It doesn't register to people who truly are different instead of TRYING to be so radical and different. So before you call another female stupid for having an opinion, maybe realize you're what's wrong with mainstream thinking today. No one else is allowed a different opinion. My opinions are mine alone, I don't need validation from you or a crew to feel right in my convictions. And I certainly don't go on TH-cam to bash someone about their opinion about people I'VE NEVER MET. "Does this matter to you?"????

    • @meaganjmc
      @meaganjmc 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's really funny to me that me disagreeing with what you said, is me telling you not to have an opinion somehow. "No one else is allowed a different opinion" well according to your reaction that's how YOU feel. You're examples of them being hypocrites make no sense. It's like you're saying, Cocorosie wore red once, therefore they must be hypocrites for that time they said they were colorblind. Like what are you talking about haha. How is them being able to have learned about something Lady Gaga said contradicting that they don't listen to music or read books? You know everyone's life experiences are different and just because YOU don't come in contact with Lady Gaga quotes (cause you're so SO punk) doesn't mean no one else in the world will never happen upon something related to her. Not to mention how sometimes in conversations, people use dramatization to get a point across. I.E. Just because they say they don't read books probably doesn't mean they've never read a book before...
      Also, lol you so cool anti-Green Day. Please tell me more about how punk you are.
      That makes no sense either like just because you know artists who don't know who Lady Gaga is means no one who acts "weird" in a band should know?
      I'm legitimately cringing at some stuff you said.

    • @einrib4truth
      @einrib4truth 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +keeeton You know you are both (+meaganjmc) to a degree right with your views and opinions, but what we must all take into serious consideration is how we have all (the entire World) been sucked into this insanely purposely created obsessive and subconscious desire to become famous and rich. Even if a musician of any form of creative-thinking and expressing individual gets "Noticed" by the hidden from public scrutiny parasites who totally own and control the entire major music/art/celebrity industry and are offered untold wealth, that individual would more often than not take it because if they don't, they same parasites would probably do everything n their power (which is frightening) to destroy them. My point being: We are ALL being subconsciously controlled by Jewish-named lying/ deceiving and psychopathic controlling individuals... FACT!! We have all been born into a LIE and are ALL living one and no mater that yo ma "THINK" you are free... you are NOT... Let the uniqueness of the individual's talent shine unabated... :-)

  • @asshat72
    @asshat72 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    To annoy you, I see it's working...

  • @stevearanda1234
    @stevearanda1234 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who cares! The music is good.

  • @Kaytress1
    @Kaytress1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually it is. Immerse yourself in the culture before you make comments.

  • @KremIsis
    @KremIsis 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...Gaga is still not dong this but she is a Madonna clone in so many ways that it is predictable she will too, although, I find her smarter and a million times more talented than Madonna is. But this simple fact doesn't change the reality: she gives a distorted idea of what freedom is, for a woman, and she's aware of doing that. That is where money plays some role. These girl up here have radical ideas I do not entirely share - but they are really committed to something. I deeply doubt Gaga is.

  • @josefx1389
    @josefx1389 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to the after life mon amis...(bienvenido a la vida futura mis amigos[Excusez-moi, je ne parle pas français])

  • @Bournesax
    @Bournesax 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    why u mad ?

  • @TimRobles89
    @TimRobles89 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    NAFALT = not all feminist are like that, sorry. Searched it already.

  • @lonw.7016
    @lonw.7016 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sky diving from HELL. pull your head out of the ground. We all shall see anyway.

  • @mperk5623
    @mperk5623 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're so talented. But they dress like such hipsters!

  • @flanigan_a-go-go
    @flanigan_a-go-go 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the thoughts.feminists unite!

  • @awkwardteenagerderp
    @awkwardteenagerderp 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feminism is about empowering females, not necessarily detesting males

  • @karstenmichaelis9309
    @karstenmichaelis9309 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CocoRosie 💫👍👏

  • @Jay41
    @Jay41 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha ha Gaga is not an artist. I get what what you're saying but whether she's real or fake is irrelevant. People take her very seriously especially her gullible fans. She's trying so hard to make people believe she's apart of a cause so they're gonna believe her. It's actually quite sad.

  • @KevinKayotic
    @KevinKayotic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i think maybe theyre trying a tad too hard

    • @MrNioMoon
      @MrNioMoon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      KevinKayotic _They don't have to._

    • @KevinKayotic
      @KevinKayotic 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** youre right they dont have to. but they are.

    • @MrNioMoon
      @MrNioMoon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      KevinKayotic As in they're not. As in--i don't know what you're seeing--but answering simple questions doesn't mean "they're trying too hard."
      I can easily say you're trying too hard too. It's not hard saying so.

    • @KevinKayotic
      @KevinKayotic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** im simply responding. watching you waste time on this. defending people you dont even know.

    • @MrNioMoon
      @MrNioMoon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      KevinKayotic​ I find it funny considering you're doing the same thing--except you're not defending, just stating rude comments about _people you don't even know_. Hypocrisy at its finest. 

  • @caulifloodle
    @caulifloodle 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview. Shit video title.

  • @PoppyKiddo7
    @PoppyKiddo7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This didn't broaden a damn thing. Pointless.

  • @AudioInklined
    @AudioInklined 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ♡Love you ladies♡

  • @paulgluxproductions
    @paulgluxproductions 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soundz like....Pseudo? How someone like you could play with Anthony?? And Beautiful Boys is WONDERFUL! But...guys if you want to do something different please remember...there´s a lot of people like you. And Feminism is not sexism...ok??? Thats inside the box...too much inside...the box!

  • @Babylon2060
    @Babylon2060 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sky god religion it's called Abrahamic religions.
    Christianity Judaism and Islam.

  • @thomaspate9131
    @thomaspate9131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad I listened to this interview. I was almost a fan. What a shame

  • @lsanchezart
    @lsanchezart 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I enjoy their music. But I'm sorry. A typewriter? And are you wearing a cape?

  • @kevinparrish52
    @kevinparrish52 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah but I like women this makes me sad. I open doors because I love my fiancé so much and I wanna show her. I open the door from tradition of showing a beautiful amazing strong equal woman that I respect her. She shows me by cooking food. I give her massages every night, full body. She sings, and she doesn't know but I melt inside when she sings. It's a mutual respect not an oppression, that's a one sided view. Your oppressed in your own mind, oppressing men's views and respects. I guess if you want to be a man maybe, but be thankful for who you are and that your alive and well! Trying to be something your not by nature is a lie unto yourself. Altering your natural form is a lie. We are what we are, we can be the best of what we are. Love simply

  • @lonw.7016
    @lonw.7016 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get a flat tire and need to change it without a lifter. quite feminine. Just go to the fuel station and buy more gas and fill our atmosphere with carbon monoxide.

  • @aaronfleming8733
    @aaronfleming8733 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sky gods rule! Men are cool! Ladies are little wussies! Hooray men!

  • @KremIsis
    @KremIsis 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am fascinated by the fact she speaks like she really believes that Gaga means what she says....Gaga makes money, she doesn't care about anything else. Gaga does not represent women, she only represents the music business. Artists like Gaga always say what people want to hear. Madonna changed her mind more she changed her hairstyle.

  • @yuyupb
    @yuyupb 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Male power FTW :)

  • @vietnamwasfun
    @vietnamwasfun 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    get out

  • @johnbarnas879
    @johnbarnas879 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a racist. I just want to celebrate the caucasian. Hee hee. Just being sarcastic. I love and celebrate every human and animal. I love you!

    • @spacedimensia
      @spacedimensia 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is funny to me since these two are actually half Native American, lol

    • @Ladyladieladee
      @Ladyladieladee 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Danse Macabre It's funny because they say the N word.

  • @ZamaraAyala
    @ZamaraAyala 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accurate 🖤

  • @HorkPorkler
    @HorkPorkler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woof

  • @vjanda1
    @vjanda1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw 2 dead decaying cats in my rubbish container that remind me of them