Of course, the HOA can go 30 years without paying their bill then cry about losing that property and actually get it back. They have no problem screwing everyone else over.
That's what I was going to say. HOAs will falsify paperwork and wills to steal houses but when someone does something legally against them, they call it unfair.
any one of those people in that neighborhood found out about the sell they would have bought it and started charging their neighbors a daily parking fee.
@@mdl2427bro you've never met neighbors? They all hate each other. And it only amplifies in higher class areas like this. The whole "keeping up with the Joneses" thing gets out of control
The City did not do their job! It was not the fault of the homeowners. The Changs were being opportunistic especially if they tried to sue afterwards. Come on, greed was the bottom line.
So, hypothetically, somebody buys your driveway due to an error, they now refuse to let you use it, unless you pay a toll, for your own driveway; That sounds fun, right?
@@randallsmerna384 But tied to one error by someone who is probably no longer involved. If that was never in the HOA budget and the government doesn’t say Hey, where’s my money? then how do they know they are doing something wrong?
Here's the story of the mistake, their accountant died, so they hired a new one, but somehow the voicemail wasn't changed, so when the government told them to pay, they told a dead person, it wasn't negligence, it was a mistake.
@@nemovi5379 how can they only get taxed for the street? And not for the entire property & multi-million dollar mansions that sits on them? 🤔 Hmmm.. maybe my neighborhood should come up with an HOA - so we would only have to pay taxes for our street as well... (LOL! and I'll collect the dues!) 😉
@@nemovi5379 when these property owners bought their homes, and from what I understand,, they are bound by contractual agreement to also pay into the required Home Owner's Association FEES for the property management/upkeep/ taxes. How they finagled a $14. dollar Tax deal for multi-million dollar properties for 30 yrs is beyond me.
@@nemovi5379 I wonder if other unbuilt areas in that city are getting taxed only $14. I'll bet anything parking lots are assessed thousands annually. Even my vacant lot in the midwest is 20 times this rate!
Wait a moment….is that Nancy Pelosi’s neighborhood? EDIT: No, I was wrong. She and her husband own a residence about a 10-minute drive away in the Pacific Heights neighborhood, according to press releases.
@@jrkbgk1111 are you for real I think it's kind of smart cuz it saves the people for like landscaping or gardening or that kind of stuff cuz if there is no yard you don't need nobody to do that kinda work
@@Jawsomest also the owner is supposed to have an opportunity to bid on something in a foreclosure auction and since the HOA wants notified they couldn’t participate
@@pws3rd170 looks like they missed their opportunity..you act like the wealthy have never taken anything from everyone else lol..they get so many opportunities you and i dont get, but then you shit on people who do the same🤷
@@scaredofghosts6813 Missed their opportunity? The government failed to notify them. Can you not listen to the video? Oh and you think the people spending $90k on a private road weren’t rich assholes? They would have done that to anyone. Imagine if it was a private road in a suburban HOA with people living paycheck to paycheck.
Wealthy powerful people with "friends" as well as "money and lawyers?" I am surprised it took them THAT long. I think the Changs wanted a quick profit by selling the land back with a hefty markup. But you don't get THAT rich without specific "attitudes" about shakedowns, even legal ones. They likely spent more money getting it reversed than just buying it from them.
@@GIboy1990 That... isn't a neighborhood of socialists. Those are hardcore conservatives -- generally those are the sorts to build "gated communities" to keep the riff and the raff out. Champagne? Yeah, that part is likely accurate.
That’s BS, how many poorer people have lost in situations like this and not had it reversed. And how in the h3LL could those rich a holes call them opportunistic when it’s pretty much a guarantee they got rich that way.
I disagree in this situation. There are People like the couple here, that look for these types of property's that fall three the crack and buy them to sell to the property owns around the piece of property they bought. Other they inconvenience them in some way. For instance, you own a store and own or use the lot next to you for customers. But there's a sliver of land between the 2 property's. I'm talk like 2 feet wide by x amount long. I force you to pay me or I build a fence. Thus cutting the parking from the store. Tho I'm sure one can get lawyers evolved but I assume most just pay because it's cheaper. In these situations the homeowners are rich. But say of this couple bought property similar to that I describe, well the situation is reversed.
@@jimmyjohnjuan The city and the public would be justified in intervening if they tried to do something like that. And they obviously would have had the power to.
Hey jealous of rich people much? People that want to live like this work hard and deserve what they have it's so irritating when people jump on them put them down and are pissed when they win in court over something. Anybody has a chance to have what they have if they go out and try to get it and work hard you know these are people that sleep three four hours a night and they work their asses off. I'm not jealous of them I wish I was one of them living in those houses but I didn't do the work to deserve that I didn't have the will to spend every minute going out and doing the deals and going after it so I would love to live there but I don't deserve to live there.
Excuse me but as someone who lives in a 6.5 million usd home I cannot believe how low you can go to demonise all people with money and speak so poorly of them? What the hell? I volunteer 5 days a week, have donated to many charities and started my life with humble beginnings being middle class.
@@leima8375 most wealthy make good hearted wealthy person look bad by trying to not pay their fair share of taxes, getting part of that $7 trillion in Trump tax discounts that got added to our nation debt but then complain about people having their student loans paid for which will affect the people that are stuck with loans and tell her 70 years old. It will not affect people that can pay for their school outright because they have a wealthy family. The hypocrisy is real.
@@leima8375 Since when is middle class "humble" beginnings??? Dude you are so far gone with the everyday reality of people. Go clutch your pearls somewhere else.
Bro this isn’t a house you dolts, it’s a street, like a road, that family was trying to essentially block them out of their homes unless they payed a toll, that or sell the road for way more than they bought it for, either way, they are definitely not in the right.
I'm pretty sure the local authorities have an obligation to inform the parties involved with any decisions. This wasn't done with the decision to put the street up for auction. That's most likely why the resulting lawsuit was dropped.
4 million dollar home is paying $40,000-80,000 / year in property taxes minimum. Missing a separate $14/ year payment is obviously an oversight. If there was a mortgage the property tax would have been bundled in the mortgage payment.
So a public servant lived there? I am sure she had so much in common with her constituents. A real woman of the people! What's wrong with this picture?
You're living in a world class city, second most densely populated city only behind New York. Of course you're gonna be close to other people if you're paying for a house in a city vs a rural area.
@@Skittles1987 and the big irony about it all is that San Fran is also built on landfill.. so you could just imagine all the shifting and earthquake faults in the place.
I will never understand it. I've worked in million dollar homes, nothing like those mansions, but still quite fancy. Some of these people live 10ft from their neighbour, it's unreal. I did work at this one guy's home though that was amazing. He had 600 acres of wooded land next to a river and 1km gated driveway. You couldn't even tell there was a incredible house down there from the road, it's just a chainlink gate on the side of the road.
I’m soooo mad they were able to reverse the sale. F that, give them at a minimum 3.5x what they paid. This makes me so mad 😡. I wish I had money to support there Lawsuit.
That’s an example of an terrible government! Not to contact the people living there about an problem is terrifying. These are rich people with influence, but things like that can happen to everybody! Governments become more and more tyrannical!
Ya know the "common" person would have been told "u should have paid attention" and wouldn't have gotten it back so I'm upset for the chang's they did their due diligence paid the way they were supposed to...suck for them
Sounds like the Changs got screwed. Every one of the neighbors were probably upset because they missed out on the same opportunity. Unless the Changs themselves were up to some dirty business I hope that they were very well compensated for being told “Nope, you got way too good of a deal… denied!”
What do you think the Changs' motivation for buying that road was? They were planning on extorting the residents, whose only "crime" was being unaware of a $14 tax that nobody had informed them of.
I was a house manager/au pair in SF from 1995 until 2010 As you drive into this enclave, Dianne Feinstein, her hubby Blum, and her Chinese spy chauffeur, lived just to the left. Jimmy Stewart lived there decades ago, and his daughter Judy Miller also ended up living there and raising a family. Her son and one my "kids" went to school together. Rich areas like this in San Francisco, to me, have always been cold, aloof. *MANY* secrets and skeletons in closets there. They didn't amass that kind of wealth by being warm and fuzzy...
It’s Spanish (the Portuguese did not settle San Francisco). In Spanish the word means a military headquarters. The Presidio was an active military base until the late 80z or early 90s, when the Park Department got control. That deal was part of a political deal in Congress decades ago. Real Estate interests in the city wanted to get their hands on the property ( it is at the Golden Gate-the bridge goes over part of it), and must have paid off a lot or people in politics (that was the rumor in military circles). However, the government didn’t put it up for sake. Strategically, because it controls entrance to the San Francisco Harbor, it is important. The California Cosst had no other major naval base north of San Diego. Part of the reasoning behind dropping the base was the Cold War belief that all future wars would be driven by missiles and airplanes. What’s happening in the Ukraine today shows us that whatever damage can be done from the air, the army that controls the ground is the army that wins.
If I were them and people were calling me opportunistic, I’d be like “you damn right I am! Why WOULDN’T I take advantage of an awesome opportunity?? You’re just mad you didn’t think of it first! Don’t hate me ‘cause you ain’t me!” 😂
There are many many neighborhoods that do not have HOAs. Problem is that they’re either too expensive, or too nasty for normal people to live in. The people that trash HOAs are usually the ones that both cannot follow simple rules, and don’t want to be involved in their communities.
No they didn't. They lost the law suit and the city refunded them the full amount they paid. They didn't get paid anything extra. So with time value of money and inflation they actually LOST money.
Not a chance they would reverse that sale would have tied that up in court for decades and put a toll booth in to help fund the attorneys. 5000 to enter 7000 exit!😂
It’s super exclusive, but… it’s also right next to the Presidio Cemetery, so… that’s kinda weird. Fun fact! San Francisco used to be a giant cemetery, north of the Golden Gate Park. All those bodies were moved to build on the land. 🎃
In case you haven’t heard the story, a neighbor of John Gotti accidentally hit and killed Gotti’s child running around on a bicycle. Gotti’s wife would wail ask cry every time they drove by the scene of the accident. She cajoled John to “be a man,” and “do something about it,” according to John’s daughter, Victoria, who later had a reality show. Reporters showed up after the man’s disappearance. They were bugging Victoria every time she left the house. At one point, she stopped walking and started pointing her finger at the reporters and photographers, and said, “You’re dead, and you’re dead, and your dead!” It stopped them in their tracks.
What are you going on about. Wtf has this got to do with the topic of the video. And she shouldn’t have had to ask him. He’s the father. He should have done it immediately off his own back. The world would be a better place if men were allowed to protect their family’s.
Did you watch the save video as everyone else? Cause the HOA dropped the ball and didn’t know they had to pay tax on it. I’m all for bashing the rich but I think HOAs should be called out for their stupidity
That looks like a great place for the street people to move into. I mean, everyone is equal so they should enable friendship and sharing of their property with others. I got a bus I think I can arrange this... Yea, I think I might.
That was one of the paranoid complaints filed by the rich people to get the city to take back the property. They claimed the couple would try to profiteer off them.
If you don't pay property taxes, that's what happens. It's sad the Changs lost their property. The homeowners had every opportunity to pay their tax bill.
I have a friend that lives there and she’s a bit out of touch with reality. Was once on a discord call with her and she had to ask her mom if they were billionaires or just millionaires.
I went to SF once in '85, and just drove out to the ocean right away. I stood on the beach on a chilly grey day and marveled at the vastness thinking about looking at Japan. When I headed back to my car, I then noticed a 5-6 story apt building just across the road. When I got back to my hotel I looked up the property (I saw an ad for it) and saw it was $2500+/month rent. I was living in an Ohio apartment for $279/month. I don't even want to think how much that building's apartments cost today. 😮😮😮🥴
They probably dropped it since they would have lost. There are way to many laws that would void the sale since people have been using it for years. Also since it was HOA error it most likely would have gotten thrown out anyway since I doubt they got a notice about the default.
@@jessicaingels9532 And? You have no idea how old I am, do you? I and a friend were actually pulled off the street to be present as at risk youth for a meet & greet when she was first running for mayor. She and I have a long history my friend. StF native.
I remember this. I thought the. HOA probably thought noone's going to notice, noone will expect payment! Gotta save that $14/yr, right. I thought what Chang's did was great!
@@shawnycoffman They tried to re-sell it for 1,000,000, Also if land you own is put up for auction, the government is legally required to tell you, and since they weren't informed, because of a minor accounting mistake, they had to reverse the sale.
The price of the homes is irrelevant to the HOA fucking up and then the government failing to notify them to allow them to fix it. What if this was your house? Oh you didn’t qualify for this exemption but we didn’t tell you for 30 years, you owe this money but we didn’t tell you, then we sold your house but didn’t tell you either.
I thought everybody was supposed to be tolerant and loving... sounds like they are as tolerant as the snobs at Martha's Vineyard. Must be nice to be able to pay off a politician and get what you want.
@@1815matt nope. They don’t. They’re so bitter and jealous they can’t see logic. These people make me look forward to the idiot cull. We need it. The more the better. These people don’t care about right or wrong. Their jealousy makes it impossible for them to see facts. It’s like trying to convince the North Korean people that Americans aren’t evil. You can’t have a rational conversation with them. Like they like to say, constantly, it just has to die. And they’re right. They do.
It's a private road on private property. They have them all over the world. I live on a private road in New Zealand and my brother lived down one in Canada.
I was thinking the same thing! Did some digging and found that it’s actually the nearby Temple Emanu-El synagogue. Looks like it was a part of that house from that angle!
So, if suddenly you were told to pay 1 million dollars to use your own driveway, you’d be perfectly fine with that, right? Otherwise you might be a hypocrite 😊😮
@@Jawsomest My point was, EVERYONE in that neighborhood at one point or another was very likely "opportunistic" to get where they were🧐 So labeling ONE of them as such,, Hypocritical. I personally can't afford to pay a million cents for anything🤷😂😂
That's weird that they would auction it off and not just amalgamate it into the rest of the city (the roads that is, not the weird islands). The idea of having such a big private property buffer between you and the rest of the public realm is quite tacky and elitist. That might be what their going for, but it's something that I wouldn't want in my social fabric, no matter how much they'd bring in in taxes.
Regular people? IS there Something WE should know? I legit thought it was rich people screwing other rich people. Bux the road. Ask 10 Times the money from the residents. This IS how it usually works.
The Feinstein house with the gingerbread look on the left as yoy come in. I visited the house just past that. (mother's social friend) It had a dining hall that was very oddly decorated. But a piano that Duke Ellington had played.
That is ridiculous section 8 to load of s*** you want a nice place to live work and pay for it I'm Indian and I don't get s*** handed me for free and I'm a real American before there was Americans with my heritage. Section 8 is a bunch of people to get in your house and tear it up and don't give a s*** I know because somebody tore up our house when we left section 8 live in and then a good friend of mine had a really nice house that she rented out for section 8 and section 8 let the b**** that live there not pay the last month's rent tore up her place and they still at that woman run another place on section 8 never paid for my friend's house. If you were going to have section 8 on a house through the state the state should guarantee that you get paid for any damages of people that don't give a s*** about your property due to your property. I'm sorry but this comment pissed me off those people work for their money yeah I love to live there never have that kind of money in my whole life but if I did make that kind of money and I did live there I don't want somebody else living there that did not earn it. PERIOD
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it's almost like they'll change the rules when it affects the rich
Rules for thee, not for me.
YA THINK🤦🏻💸💵💷💶💴💵💰🎩🎒💎⁉️⁉️⁉️❗
Remember when working class ppl started making money on the Gamestop bid?
Changing the rules is what they've always done.
Martha's vineyard ring a bell
Of course, the HOA can go 30 years without paying their bill then cry about losing that property and actually get it back. They have no problem screwing everyone else over.
HOA is a front for Karen club
That's what I was going to say. HOAs will falsify paperwork and wills to steal houses but when someone does something legally against them, they call it unfair.
They are all rich, the law doesn't apply to them.
Must’ve been more like 70 years because 30 times 14 is only 420
But you don't mow your lawn for a month and they're filing liens and shit
any one of those people in that neighborhood found out about the sell they would have bought it and started charging their neighbors a daily parking fee.
Yep, and those people control the city
I doubt that would be true. But if it makes you feel better
@@mdl2427bro you've never met neighbors? They all hate each other. And it only amplifies in higher class areas like this. The whole "keeping up with the Joneses" thing gets out of control
@@joel.ha. certainly not the case in the UK.
@@mdl2427 I had no idea presidio terrace in San Francisco was located in the Uk
The neighbors that called them opportunistic were just pissed they didn't get it themselves.
0 chance that any of the ppl living there were not opportunistic in their lifetime.
Then you should have Sued the HOA for not doing their job
The City did not do their job! It was not the fault of the homeowners. The Changs were being opportunistic especially if they tried to sue afterwards. Come on, greed was the bottom line.
@@vlsice663 it was the city that didn't do their job not the HOA but in my opinion HOA's shouldn't even exist
@@alexandra2jerry the chang's were gone by the law they bought a piece of property that was for sale.
They should have bought the street from that couple and paid the full going price.
So, hypothetically, somebody buys your driveway due to an error, they now refuse to let you use it, unless you pay a toll, for your own driveway; That sounds fun, right?
@@Jawsomest
Error? IT'S 30-YEARS OF NEGLIGENCE!
@@randallsmerna384 But tied to one error by someone who is probably no longer involved. If that was never in the HOA budget and the government doesn’t say Hey, where’s my money? then how do they know they are doing something wrong?
Here's the story of the mistake, their accountant died, so they hired a new one, but somehow the voicemail wasn't changed, so when the government told them to pay, they told a dead person, it wasn't negligence, it was a mistake.
@@pws3rd170 Gotta agree with you there, reminds me of this short.
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Just another great example of how corrupt a government can be when it affects their rich friends.
The real crime is that the HOA was only being charged $14 per year for the taxes on all that land.
Right? And the way I see it is they were just changing HOA ownership is all.
Just the street. Not the properties.
@@nemovi5379 how can they only get taxed for the street? And not for the entire property & multi-million dollar mansions that sits on them? 🤔
Hmmm.. maybe my neighborhood should come up with an HOA - so we would only have to pay taxes for our street as well... (LOL! and I'll collect the dues!) 😉
@@nemovi5379 when these property owners bought their homes, and from what I understand,, they are bound by contractual agreement to also pay into the required Home Owner's Association FEES for the property management/upkeep/ taxes. How they finagled a $14. dollar Tax deal for multi-million dollar properties for 30 yrs is beyond me.
@@nemovi5379 I wonder if other unbuilt areas in that city are getting taxed only $14. I'll bet anything parking lots are assessed thousands annually. Even my vacant lot in the midwest is 20 times this rate!
How does these people not pay taxes for 30 years without someone saying something?
Because it was only the road that wasn't paid for. $14 isn't something that gets noticed..
They got the bill and ignored it. Probably thought nothing would happen.
Exactly! They would have been notified by the city!
You try that and they take your property
Because their rich , the richer you are the less you pay for
When your HOA would rather evict you from your own house for the grass being an inch too long than do their actual job
queen
LOL imagine wealthy a-holes calling someone “opportunistic” 😂
how do you know they are such? Asuming you are not rich, so you are lazy, stupid?
Liberals
You stole my comment🥺🥺
Wait a moment….is that Nancy Pelosi’s neighborhood?
EDIT: No, I was wrong. She and her husband own a residence about a 10-minute drive away in the Pacific Heights neighborhood, according to press releases.
Took the words right out of my mouth
If I pay 14 million for a home, my closest neighbors would need a helicopter to ring my doorbell
No fuckin doubt man, they're mansions but don't even have yards, the fuck is that shit? Why would anyone want that?
@@jrkbgk1111 are you for real I think it's kind of smart cuz it saves the people for like landscaping or gardening or that kind of stuff cuz if there is no yard you don't need nobody to do that kinda work
Hell yeah
@@rakano3733 I have no neighbors within half a mile. Soo quiet..
Homes are packed together & to close to the street. The yards are to small to have big events with a lot of people & no privacy.
This happened to our HOA. We did not ask for the road back. The city owns it and pays to repair it.
You mean the city puts tax money into it so you guys dont have to cool i guess...
Anything for the people
The only way you become that rich IS by being opportunistic.. hypocrites.
They were still being annoying as heck, changs deserved it.
@@Jawsomest also the owner is supposed to have an opportunity to bid on something in a foreclosure auction and since the HOA wants notified they couldn’t participate
@@pws3rd170 looks like they missed their opportunity..you act like the wealthy have never taken anything from everyone else lol..they get so many opportunities you and i dont get, but then you shit on people who do the same🤷
@@scaredofghosts6813 Missed their opportunity? The government failed to notify them. Can you not listen to the video? Oh and you think the people spending $90k on a private road weren’t rich assholes? They would have done that to anyone. Imagine if it was a private road in a suburban HOA with people living paycheck to paycheck.
@@pws3rd170 Oh, speaking of, they tried to extort the people of that neighboorhood to pay 1,000,000 for the road.
I remember this story. I can't believe they stole the property back from those people.
Wealthy powerful people with "friends" as well as "money and lawyers?"
I am surprised it took them THAT long. I think the Changs wanted a quick profit by selling the land back with a hefty markup.
But you don't get THAT rich without specific "attitudes" about shakedowns, even legal ones. They likely spent more money getting it reversed than just buying it from them.
Champagne socialists being scumbags? Never in my life....
@@GIboy1990 That... isn't a neighborhood of socialists. Those are hardcore conservatives -- generally those are the sorts to build "gated communities" to keep the riff and the raff out.
Champagne? Yeah, that part is likely accurate.
@@redwolfexr do you know what city this is in?
@@redwolfexr Diana fienstein and Nancy Pelosi both live/have lived there....
Opportunistic is not a bad word in my book. They are slick.
That’s BS, how many poorer people have lost in situations like this and not had it reversed. And how in the h3LL could those rich a holes call them opportunistic when it’s pretty much a guarantee they got rich that way.
That’s what happens when the rich run the government.
I’m getting hungry.
I disagree in this situation. There are People like the couple here, that look for these types of property's that fall three the crack and buy them to sell to the property owns around the piece of property they bought. Other they inconvenience them in some way. For instance, you own a store and own or use the lot next to you for customers. But there's a sliver of land between the 2 property's. I'm talk like 2 feet wide by x amount long. I force you to pay me or I build a fence. Thus cutting the parking from the store. Tho I'm sure one can get lawyers evolved but I assume most just pay because it's cheaper. In these situations the homeowners are rich. But say of this couple bought property similar to that I describe, well the situation is reversed.
@@jimmyjohnjuan The city and the public would be justified in intervening if they tried to do something like that.
And they obviously would have had the power to.
Hey jealous of rich people much? People that want to live like this work hard and deserve what they have it's so irritating when people jump on them put them down and are pissed when they win in court over something. Anybody has a chance to have what they have if they go out and try to get it and work hard you know these are people that sleep three four hours a night and they work their asses off. I'm not jealous of them I wish I was one of them living in those houses but I didn't do the work to deserve that I didn't have the will to spend every minute going out and doing the deals and going after it so I would love to live there but I don't deserve to live there.
California
The Chang’s should’ve sold it back for $1M
They had it overturned nothing to sell.
Fuck that, setup toll booths. 😆
Yeah cause that was an option genius
They did try to sell it back for $1M, but the residents there used their influence/connection to get the sell overturned
@@desertguy1362 That's literally illegal
Could of easily won a court battle
There's always justice for rich people.
I would have put up a toll booth on my private street and charged those a$$holes to come and go!
Excuse me but as someone who lives in a 6.5 million usd home I cannot believe how low you can go to demonise all people with money and speak so poorly of them? What the hell?
I volunteer 5 days a week, have donated to many charities and started my life with humble beginnings being middle class.
@@leima8375 most wealthy make good hearted wealthy person look bad by trying to not pay their fair share of taxes, getting part of that $7 trillion in Trump tax discounts that got added to our nation debt but then complain about people having their student loans paid for which will affect the people that are stuck with loans and tell her 70 years old. It will not affect people that can pay for their school outright because they have a wealthy family. The hypocrisy is real.
@@leima8375 Since when is middle class "humble" beginnings??? Dude you are so far gone with the everyday reality of people. Go clutch your pearls somewhere else.
@@leima8375 well bless your heart ♥
@@roxannemoser heart? When someone is doing charity they don’t go and tell around. This lady is a pure narcissistic.
Only rich people are this irresponsible.
And only rich people would be entitled enough to almost sue the city for the consequences of not paying their property taxes.
@@jenem9618 that's not why the couple sued the city
Rich rich people would have a crew of law to negotiate these.
@@PipMane they’re talking about the people that live there not the San Jose couple 🤦♂️
Bro this isn’t a house you dolts, it’s a street, like a road, that family was trying to essentially block them out of their homes unless they payed a toll, that or sell the road for way more than they bought it for, either way, they are definitely not in the right.
If I got that place for 90k I’d be like hell yea I’m opportunistic. All those rich bastards would be too if they noticed it was for sale
I'm pretty sure the local authorities have an obligation to inform the parties involved with any decisions. This wasn't done with the decision to put the street up for auction. That's most likely why the resulting lawsuit was dropped.
✨Everything in this world boils down to money - they didn’t have the money to fight back so they cave🤨.
The power of snobbery is unbelievable
4 million dollar home is paying $40,000-80,000 / year in property taxes minimum. Missing a separate $14/ year payment is obviously an oversight. If there was a mortgage the property tax would have been bundled in the mortgage payment.
I used to walk around it when Diane F. lived there. Beautiful homes. Great story!
So a public servant lived there?
I am sure she had so much in common with her constituents.
A real woman of the people!
What's wrong with this picture?
It is gorgeous.
Kinda disgusting she lived there, tbh.
Couldn't imagine paying that much and being that close to someone else
It’s called San Fran …
You're living in a world class city, second most densely populated city only behind New York. Of course you're gonna be close to other people if you're paying for a house in a city vs a rural area.
@@Skittles1987 and the big irony about it all is that San Fran is also built on landfill.. so you could just imagine all the shifting and earthquake faults in the place.
@@Living_On_The_Edge444 this comment was so stupid It literally made my brain hurt.
I will never understand it. I've worked in million dollar homes, nothing like those mansions, but still quite fancy. Some of these people live 10ft from their neighbour, it's unreal. I did work at this one guy's home though that was amazing. He had 600 acres of wooded land next to a river and 1km gated driveway. You couldn't even tell there was a incredible house down there from the road, it's just a chainlink gate on the side of the road.
I’m soooo mad they were able to reverse the sale. F that, give them at a minimum 3.5x what they paid. This makes me so mad 😡. I wish I had money to support there Lawsuit.
That’s an example of an terrible government! Not to contact the people living there about an problem is terrifying. These are rich people with influence, but things like that can happen to everybody! Governments become more and more tyrannical!
Ya know the "common" person would have been told "u should have paid attention" and wouldn't have gotten it back so I'm upset for the chang's they did their due diligence paid the way they were supposed to...suck for them
Exactly
Nah, I think a city would notify you before selling your property….
Even after all that, I bet they still didn't pay the 1000. Our system is about keeping all the wealth concentrated at the top.
Its a Jewish neighbourhood what did you expect
"How fucking dare you take any opportunity given to you"
Sounds like the Changs got screwed. Every one of the neighbors were probably upset because they missed out on the same opportunity. Unless the Changs themselves were up to some dirty business I hope that they were very well compensated for being told “Nope, you got way too good of a deal… denied!”
The sale got canceled. They got their money back. Still doesn't seem legal.
@@notsure1350 It's not but rules for the poor don't apply to the rich.
You think people who are buying such “property” (a private street you don’t own property on) aren’t in dirty business? Lmao
What do you think the Changs' motivation for buying that road was? They were planning on extorting the residents, whose only "crime" was being unaware of a $14 tax that nobody had informed them of.
"Wait, only we're allowed to do that!"
Exactly
I was a house manager/au pair in SF from 1995 until 2010
As you drive into this enclave, Dianne Feinstein, her hubby Blum, and her Chinese spy chauffeur, lived just to the left.
Jimmy Stewart lived there decades ago, and his daughter Judy Miller also ended up living there and raising a family. Her son and one my "kids" went to school together.
Rich areas like this in San Francisco, to me, have always been cold, aloof. *MANY* secrets and skeletons in closets there. They didn't amass that kind of wealth by being warm and fuzzy...
Fun fact, “Presidio” in Portuguese means Jail..
Wow haha
In Spanish means jail, as well.
Yes, it’s Spanish for jail/fortification
It’s Spanish (the Portuguese did not settle San Francisco). In Spanish the word means a military headquarters. The Presidio was an active military base until the late 80z or early 90s, when the Park Department got control. That deal was part of a political deal in Congress decades ago. Real Estate interests in the city wanted to get their hands on the property ( it is at the Golden Gate-the bridge goes over part of it), and must have paid off a lot or people in politics (that was the rumor in military circles). However, the government didn’t put it up for sake.
Strategically, because it controls entrance to the San Francisco Harbor, it is important.
The California Cosst had no other major naval base north of San Diego.
Part of the reasoning behind dropping the base was the Cold War belief that all future wars would be driven by missiles and airplanes. What’s happening in the Ukraine today shows us that whatever damage can be done from the air, the army that controls the ground is the army that wins.
He didn’t mean that, he just explained the word Presidio, which mean jail (prisão) in português.
If I were them and people were calling me opportunistic, I’d be like “you damn right I am! Why WOULDN’T I take advantage of an awesome opportunity?? You’re just mad you didn’t think of it first! Don’t hate me ‘cause you ain’t me!” 😂
Paulie Good Fellows " Fuck you pay me" !😂
Well, if they would've told the homeowners in the first place, they would've out bid the sneaky little Chinese Changs
They should have set up a toll booth and charged some absurd amount lmfao
The big house in front of the synagogue is Dianne Feinstein's crib. She's our ancient US Senator.
She's a horrid senator!
This is why you gotta stay away from hoa
read the old articles..the person that managed the hoa finances had passes away..why they racked up fees.
No I would live in a hoa any day ! If not homes near you are nasty and in kept !
There are many many neighborhoods that do not have HOAs. Problem is that they’re either too expensive, or too nasty for normal people to live in.
The people that trash HOAs are usually the ones that both cannot follow simple rules, and don’t want to be involved in their communities.
@@ob1coyote that opinion s a bit obtuse.
But you, do you.
@@mariagents9575 you like getting charged $350 for a f* flower?
The LAW / rules don't apply to "THEY" "THEM"
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BS what they did to that couple, then to vilify them?! Stuck up rich assholes.
Rich people didn't pay their bills and still fucked over those who did, insane
My cousin lived there for decades until he passed away. He bought his home for $100K and his children sold it for $10+million.
So if you know the neighborhood that we'll, is there more Republicans or Democrats living there?
Good for you.
@@RevSinkiller it's SF, doubt many conservatives would want to live in the shthole.
@@RevSinkiller the fuck does it matter?
@@RevSinkiller demorats
They “threw in the towel “ because they got paid for it 😂😂😂
No they didn't. They lost the law suit and the city refunded them the full amount they paid. They didn't get paid anything extra. So with time value of money and inflation they actually LOST money.
If I'm not mistaken, President Towers had the opportunity to pay their tax bill for 30 years.
What the HELL does that mean ?
@@WilliamKSmith-lq1zn stupid gets stupid answers
Not a chance they would reverse that sale would have tied that up in court for decades and put a toll booth in to help fund the attorneys. 5000 to enter 7000 exit!😂
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try $90,000 per entry or face trespassing charges. Yall better start building tunnels you rich bastards. lol
Those rich would have threatened or paid mega amounts of dollars to the councils to manipulate them into doing what they wanted… disgusting humans
That's funny when the rich said the couple was optimistic when that all the rich do!
Actually it said opportunistic. Why are you salty that people are successful?
@@joebloggs9719 you're right about the spelling, my bad. You got a problem with the couple trying to get that come up?
Welcome to the Liberal world
You think that couple wasn’t rich? 🤣 peasants arguing over wealthy ppl court bs
@@HeyhitmeBAM Never said they weren't rich choob, you peasant.
Imagine being the "poor" family in the 4 mil house.
They defiantly were going to charge the residents to use the road 😂
It’s super exclusive, but… it’s also right next to the Presidio Cemetery, so… that’s kinda weird. Fun fact! San Francisco used to be a giant cemetery, north of the Golden Gate Park. All those bodies were moved to build on the land. 🎃
???
Or, were they?😁
In case you haven’t heard the story, a neighbor of John Gotti accidentally hit and killed Gotti’s child running around on a bicycle. Gotti’s wife would wail ask cry every time they drove by the scene of the accident. She cajoled John to “be a man,” and “do something about it,” according to John’s daughter, Victoria, who later had a reality show.
Reporters showed up after the man’s disappearance. They were bugging Victoria every time she left the house. At one point, she stopped walking and started pointing her finger at the reporters and photographers, and said, “You’re dead, and you’re dead, and your dead!”
It stopped them in their tracks.
What are you going on about. Wtf has this got to do with the topic of the video. And she shouldn’t have had to ask him. He’s the father. He should have done it immediately off his own back. The world would be a better place if men were allowed to protect their family’s.
Wow they're so rich that they can't pay a few $1000 for tax.
Did you watch the save video as everyone else? Cause the HOA dropped the ball and didn’t know they had to pay tax on it. I’m all for bashing the rich but I think HOAs should be called out for their stupidity
The whole point was they weren't notified
@@listen4159 Right. Can’t stand people that watched the same video as everyone else then manage to spew ignorance in the comment section
They were unaware, like italians and their backhair.
@@19leeryan That comment hit me in my soul.
That looks like a great place for the street people to move into. I mean, everyone is equal so they should enable friendship and sharing of their property with others. I got a bus I think I can arrange this... Yea, I think I might.
It's funny how when a city treats and HOA like and HOA treats people not paying their dues, they don't like it.
underrated comment
Oddly enough that happens to people a lot they just take your property we all know that's not fair 🤬🤬
I'd have built a toll gate there the second they started complaining and put a $20 charge a pass on it lol
That was one of the paranoid complaints filed by the rich people to get the city to take back the property. They claimed the couple would try to profiteer off them.
If you don't pay property taxes, that's what happens. It's sad the Changs lost their property. The homeowners had every opportunity to pay their tax bill.
I have a friend that lives there and she’s a bit out of touch with reality. Was once on a discord call with her and she had to ask her mom if they were billionaires or just millionaires.
Total snob and I bet it crushed her to find out they weren't billionaires yet.
@@roxannemoser Nah, she's just unbelievable sheltered. I honestly don't think she has the reference frame for what that would mean.
The mom: Actually, honey, YOU are broke. Your father and I, on the other hand, are LOADED. Now give me that laptop back, you just turned 18.
@@crazyspace6792 Reference frame???🤨
I went to SF once in '85, and just drove out to the ocean right away. I stood on the beach on a chilly grey day and marveled at the vastness thinking about looking at Japan. When I headed back to my car, I then noticed a 5-6 story apt building just across the road. When I got back to my hotel I looked up the property (I saw an ad for it) and saw it was $2500+/month rent. I was living in an Ohio apartment for $279/month. I don't even want to think how much that building's apartments cost today. 😮😮😮🥴
If the sale was legit, I would have taken that thing to the Supreme Court! Sued the city and the homeowners
They probably dropped it since they would have lost. There are way to many laws that would void the sale since people have been using it for years. Also since it was HOA error it most likely would have gotten thrown out anyway since I doubt they got a notice about the default.
The takeaway is if you live in a development with a HOA get involved. Do not leave the running of the HOA to someone else.
Hitler’s Other Army = HOA.
@@george344 yeah but he did nothing wrong.
Ah, no the takeaway is to not move into an HOA neighborhood.
@@george344 don't be ignorant. Hitler wasn't evil. That's a Hollywood narrative.
When this was publicized previously, someone pointed out that this was the 2nd time that this HOA neglected to pay their tax bill for this road.
As he says the home owners association. That house was said to be then mayor Dianne Feinstien's house.
She hasn't been mayor in a veeerrrrrrrrry long time. She's been a senator for 1,000 years
@@jessicaingels9532
And? You have no idea how old I am, do you?
I and a friend were actually pulled off the street to be present as at risk youth for a meet & greet when she was first running for mayor. She and I have a long history my friend. StF native.
Used to trick or treat there. Full size candy bars!
Love how they get called opportunistic! The nerve of it when people rarely get as rich as those folk do without at least screwing someone over.
Don’t worry within the next 6 to 12 months there will be people visiting this people in this neighborhood to say hi
I remember this. I thought the. HOA probably thought noone's going to notice, noone will expect payment! Gotta save that $14/yr, right. I thought what Chang's did was great!
You mean, extort several people to not let them in their homes? Yeah that’s really the move of a good person 😇
What did they do other than buy it?
@@Jawsomest because these rich people scammed on their taxes! hopefully this is a wake up call to them from the Changs!
@@shawnycoffman They tried to re-sell it for 1,000,000, Also if land you own is put up for auction, the government is legally required to tell you, and since they weren't informed, because of a minor accounting mistake, they had to reverse the sale.
@@maryannswanson3832 You think the changs weren't rich too? They literally paid 90k for a road.
You said “you’re not going to believe this”, but I totally believe it. Not surprised at all…
Okay what you do when you come across this road is to make sure it doesn’t matter how long it takes to go there for Halloween
I feel so sorry for those rich people, poor guys.GTFOH!!
The price of the homes is irrelevant to the HOA fucking up and then the government failing to notify them to allow them to fix it. What if this was your house? Oh you didn’t qualify for this exemption but we didn’t tell you for 30 years, you owe this money but we didn’t tell you, then we sold your house but didn’t tell you either.
@@scaredofghosts6813 the Changs weren’t one of us, they were rich too
@@scaredofghosts6813 the Changs weren’t one of us, they were rich too. And not a single billionaire was involved in this story 🤡
@@pws3rd170 huh? I wrote "the wealthy" unless your referring to a meme lol
@@scaredofghosts6813 your other comments don’t show up anymore so I really can’t clarify that
This is really common. Retention ponds, common areas, water run off, amenities in a lot of neighborhoods don't get paid.
I thought everybody was supposed to be tolerant and loving... sounds like they are as tolerant as the snobs at Martha's Vineyard. Must be nice to be able to pay off a politician and get what you want.
You get that the couple who bought the road and then attempted to extort the homeowners are the bad guys in this situation ... right?
@@1815matt nope. They don’t. They’re so bitter and jealous they can’t see logic. These people make me look forward to the idiot cull. We need it. The more the better. These people don’t care about right or wrong. Their jealousy makes it impossible for them to see facts. It’s like trying to convince the North Korean people that Americans aren’t evil. You can’t have a rational conversation with them. Like they like to say, constantly, it just has to die. And they’re right. They do.
I’d have built a toll booth immediately
Good to see Bam is clean and sober doing real estate
Glad to see Bam doing good in life.
Imagine being forced to give up something you legally purchased because of entitled Karens.
Don't have to imagine it. It just happened, were you not listening in class? lol
$14 property tax a year seems suspiciously low for property the city was able to sell at auction for over $90,000.
This is one of the wildest, funniest stories I've happened upon in a long time. Thanks!
I remember this story! Wondered what happened. Thanks for the update!
4.5-15million dollar homes… and you’re stuck with HOA and neighbors on every side.
Only in America will somebody sell the street from under your feet and shout "TRESSPASS"
It's a private road on private property. They have them all over the world. I live on a private road in New Zealand and my brother lived down one in Canada.
I would like a tour of the home with the dome. Interesting, at least to me.
I was thinking the same thing! Did some digging and found that it’s actually the nearby Temple Emanu-El synagogue. Looks like it was a part of that house from that angle!
@@and4ew Wow. It seems like a strange location for a place of worship, lol. But one thing's for sure, it's a nice-looking structure.
That is Temple Emanu-El, a synagogue. It was designed by the same architect who designed City Hall.
@@robert3302 He's a talented guy.
Twist of fate : Hell yeahhh i want 🐴
What is more ridiculous is how much those homes are [over] valued. For that amount of money, I want the equivalent of Downton Abbey.
LMAO
Calling the Chang's "opportunistic"🙄 while living in an exclusive neighborhood of multi-million dollar houses, 🤯
Your hypocrisy is showing
So, if suddenly you were told to pay 1 million dollars to use your own driveway, you’d be perfectly fine with that, right?
Otherwise you might be a hypocrite 😊😮
@@Jawsomest My point was,
EVERYONE in that neighborhood at one point or another was very likely "opportunistic" to get where they were🧐
So labeling ONE of them as such,,
Hypocritical.
I personally can't afford to pay a million cents for anything🤷😂😂
It’s a great place to take your kids trick or treating.
is that before or after the gun shots and violence?
“Opportunistic” is what I call people who can afford a $15M house
I had a college housemate whose family moved from San Diego to the neighborhood. I got to visit and see the inside. It was DAMN nice.
That's weird that they would auction it off and not just amalgamate it into the rest of the city (the roads that is, not the weird islands). The idea of having such a big private property buffer between you and the rest of the public realm is quite tacky and elitist. That might be what their going for, but it's something that I wouldn't want in my social fabric, no matter how much they'd bring in in taxes.
Fact: the word “Presidio” in Spanish is interchangeable with Prision/Prison, mostly referring to a Spanish prison/fortification
Soo rich people screw up and regular people get punished that's the Cali way
Regular people? IS there Something WE should know?
I legit thought it was rich people screwing other rich people.
Bux the road. Ask 10 Times the money from the residents.
This IS how it usually works.
Remember guys laws cannot be broken!... unless your rich, then exceptions can be made.
😂😂😂😂naw fr ik
The Feinstein house with the gingerbread look on the left as yoy come in. I visited the house just past that. (mother's social friend) It had a dining hall that was very oddly decorated. But a piano that Duke Ellington had played.
whoopie !
Wow. A three-way fight where I don't want ANYBODY to win
If Elon Musk comes to know about this, he would buy the whole neighbourhood
Not so sure about that. Its a Jewish neighbourhood and jews are famous for hating goyem
I wanted so bad for the couple to win.
I hope they at least DP with each other's siblings / family members watching at some point on the holidays.
DP - does that mean have sex with?
I remember looking into this subdivision on a vacation trip back in '94!
I 💯 believe this. When I became my hoa treasurer we were out of compliance for decades!
Money cannot correct all ignorance.
Doing the devils work. Good on you 🎉
This 100% happened.
They need section 8 down there. They need a little bit of reverse gentrification
That is ridiculous section 8 to load of s*** you want a nice place to live work and pay for it I'm Indian and I don't get s*** handed me for free and I'm a real American before there was Americans with my heritage. Section 8 is a bunch of people to get in your house and tear it up and don't give a s*** I know because somebody tore up our house when we left section 8 live in and then a good friend of mine had a really nice house that she rented out for section 8 and section 8 let the b**** that live there not pay the last month's rent tore up her place and they still at that woman run another place on section 8 never paid for my friend's house. If you were going to have section 8 on a house through the state the state should guarantee that you get paid for any damages of people that don't give a s*** about your property due to your property. I'm sorry but this comment pissed me off those people work for their money yeah I love to live there never have that kind of money in my whole life but if I did make that kind of money and I did live there I don't want somebody else living there that did not earn it. PERIOD
@@tamaramixon6014 lol no they need section 8
"You filthy opportunistics" is literally the pot calling the kettle black
Well, not literally. Literally would be if they were actually a pot calling the kettle black.
@@jpkjnn6733 goofball
😮 that’s wild!