Henry Homesteader: A Not Tactical 9mm Carbine
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- The Homesteader from Henry Repeating arms is direct blowback 9mm carbine that reminds me a little bit of a mini BAR. Henry has done some interesting things with the reciprocating mass that makes this a very low recoil 9mm rifle
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Damn these comments are toxic.
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They do seem to be fairly negative. If it's reliable it seems like a reasonable option.
Low key BAR vibes
In many regions, using an EBR will bring a legal lynching after a self-defense shooting. The traditional aesthetics of this carbine could help with getting a "not guilty" verdict as the jury will see a "deer rifle" rather than "machine gun".
Made the mistake of asking to hold "the Henry without a lever" and as soon as I held it I told them to start the paperwork. Solid build, like the mag options, shoots spot on with those iron sights. It is a ton of fun at the range, but also very versatile. Still waiting for a .357 sidegate, but in the meantime this is fun, and 9mm is a bit less expensive to throw down the range
I had the same exact experience. They actually didn’t even have it on the floor yet but because I’m in there all the time I was the first to see it and it was over with.
It reminds me of a Marlin Camp Carbine
My thoughts exactly!
Looks like fun. I like the wood look.
9mm is the most common pistol caliber so it makes sense for what it is, a farm and ranch pickup gun to wack predators and feral pigs and stuff.
230gr .45 ACP would make it a nice little thumper.
I AGREE!!!😃👍
Just got mine. Worth every cent.
I hope they make make it in 45acp . I'm really like Henry rifles.
Henry always offers a 100% lifetime guarantee too. They are totally committed to their customers' complete satisfaction with all of their fine American-made products.👍🇺🇸
Not everything needs to be tacticool polymers and rails and ugly
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Beautiful .Walnut and steel .No ugly picki rails.
I definitely want one of these
10mm would be a good idea, but they need to add a delayed blowback to get the full potential of the cartridge. I don't want to run 10mm light, only to prevent case head separation on proper 10mm loads
Case separation is a concern on any blowback action. And, there's absolutely no difference in that regard between direct blowback and a delayed one. Both of them must permit a motion of the bottom of the case that activates the action.
I want this 9mm in Tube Fed Lever Action ( TFLA) and like you said, with included optic rail
This is the closest I'll get to a Winchester 1907, and I'm honestly pretty okay with it
Definitely need a 45 acp version. And a 10mm
And a .40!
@The Eastern front 10mm will usually shoot .40 fine
10mm for sure
We really need this In .40
10mm would make for a great all-rounder.
10mm and i am all in
Cool gun. I'm not sure why they bothered making a proprietary magazine for it; They could've left that off completely and just went for the glock/etc mags only and I'm sure it still would've been fine.
Mostly will have problems when you add the conversion for the glock mag. Like you said just make it to run glock mags.
Me neither especially when they seem to suck ass in it.
The current "tactical" craze is kind of silly anyway. Tactical is a behavior, not an object. With an extended magazine and red dot sight, this carbine doesn't give up anything to an AR-platform 9mm. Personally, I like the traditional look and the fact that it's less likely than an AR-style carbine to attract negative attention doesn't hurt. Taking Sig magazines is a big plus because I have a P250. If they made an adapter for CZ mags it would be pretty nearly perfect.
For the general American Soldier, tactical in gear meant it was tough (probably heavy too) and wouldn't break if you had to use it differently than designed (think entrenching tool). Also, that it was kind of inexpensive so when you lost it it wasn't a huge deal.
The hi-speed tactical talk today always runs into what the Army runs into. I was an MLRS crewman in the Army twice, in different decades. The second time around was in 2004. In an effort to modernize and save money on printing, technical manuals were distributed as a file. Each MLRS launcher was assigned a Toshiba Toughbook.
Every Toughbook in my platoon, except 1, had a broken LCD and they were waiting on replacement. I don't know if this is still an issue, but to think every combat vehicle in the US inventory is relying on a portable (and easily dropped) LCD screen, that's a huge and expensive issue. I'm sure the supply chain is such that it's expensive and inflexible as well.
My thoughts exactly ! Why Ruger won't make a CZ adapter is beyond me I mean I get Glock love even though I don't own any. What I do own is a crap ton of Freedom week mags for Glocks and CZ's but I run CZ pistols so i'd prefer a CZ magwell because I own a bunch. Even Kel Tec knew enough to make their magwells for pretty much any pistol on the market with the multi mag version Sub2k.
Internally ( and externally ), the Homesteader is very reminiscent of the old Winchester Self Loading Rifle series...
How do you think it compares to the Ruger PC carbine?
Shhh , none of the guntubers want to compare it to that gun. It doesn't exist to them because Henry paid them all to forget about it.
Henry is difficult to make a takedown - at best the action bars will stick forward. Ruger is always a takedown. Henry has a more refined design of the magwell module, which may in time permit SMG magazines, paddle releases, etc. Ruger's magwell is basic and limits the acceptable magazine types.
@@DayBowBow My PC 9 was just under $500 when it first appeared a few years back.
Objectively superior aesthetically, objectively inferior take down, and anecdotally seems to be having some teething issues (see HonestOutlaw’s videos). I’m really hoping it turns out good because I love the look of it, but I want to see more data. But the Ruger definitely has a better track record so far, and my buddy’s has been reliable with factory ammunition.
Somewhere I read or heard the optics rail foa A Marlin 336 or 1894 fits this rifle so very common easy to find
remember the ruger 44 that was so loved? henery has the oppertunity to fill that void by uping the 6mm to 44mag.
Wery nice review, and to Henry-company i will say! Bring the "picatiny/waver" in the box i will gladly pay the extra for it, just have to wait for it, to come to Sweden, Realy like that gun, and the good review you have done many thanks from me in Sweden
Imagine this, but a true direct impingement 5.56 and 300blk. It'd be something like the bastard child of a mini 14 and a SU16
DO WANT.
I would like to see a .357 SIG version. I'm curious to see what velocity you could get from 125 grain loads out of a 16" barrel.
It must be the name but I agree 100%, a 357 sig PCC would be killer
good luck finding ammo
@@creepinonthebabespretty much every major retailer online has it in stock for reasonable pricing, no luck needed bud
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LuckyGunner has it.
So...5 review of the weapon. 2 reviews without shooting as no charging handle in the box. One review didn't finish as the Henry mags kept jamming (didn't have the Glock adapter). Another review had both Henry & Glock, who stated he couldn't fully load the Henry's but had jamming issues with the Glock. Also complained about the Lazer cut stock. Yours was the most complete review. With all put together, I get a better picture!
Some Henry designer: hey what if we turned that old crossman bb gun every kid had into a real gun?
Need, another review said you could just pull the charging handle out, what do you think of that?
10MM would be a "Way Better" cartridge in this carbine...
I love it for a simple reason if you have farm animals you can Dispach them quickly very useful size and cheep bullet
Unfortunately, the threaded barrel makes this illegal in WA State.
Yep high point is even better price and will do the same thing bang bang
Are there any rifles made in this design in this millennium? Definitely has early and mid 1900’s vibes
@@purebeef4698 I’m going to assume they don’t make contemporary versions of said rifle or that caliber anymore? From what I can find, they shoot the .401 WSL, which I don’t know if that round is even manufactured anymore.
Not sure I like this more than a Sub 2000 for almost twice the price.
I own a sub 2k , it's like holding a squirt gun , the sights are terrible, and some parts are literally glued on. I'm selling it and spending the extra for a homesteader. It's a 9mm carbine with glock mags that I can past down to my family. The sub 2k like all keltec products is great in theory, abysmal manufacturing practices, zero durability.
In addition to what other Chris said, if you ever need to use it for a self-defense scenario the aesthetics of this will look better to the cops, judge, or jury
I don't see much advantage over the Ruger at 2/3 the price.
Weight. If they made a Glock charger that didn't feel like it weighs 10 pounds and balance horribly, sure, then we'd have a comparison.
This is Fudd-friendly.
If they made it in 45acp it would be the thompson replacement (i cant afford a real thompson)
Dope, though I wonder if HENRY can achieve this in tube fed, lever action…and get her done for under $800
It's hard to make a lever action play nice with a rimless cartridge. Given that .38/.357 magnum is already available, I don't see anyone investing the effort.
I doubt there’s ever going to be a lever action that’s going to be smooth with 9mm Luger.
@@itsapittie I differ on that opinion, all because 9mm is literally less than half the price of .38 /.357, that being said, I think consumers may want to experience a lever action shooter but without taking out a 2nd mortgage to buy ammo.
@@ShowemRight that's probably part of the appeal of box magazine 9mm lever action carbines which are starting to appear. Nevertheless, because of the inherent difficulty of using rimless cartridges in a tube magazine lever action, I doubt we'll see one.
@@ShowemRight If all they want to do is experience a lever action, then just get the .22 version
4" barrel to a 16" inch barrel about a 25% increase in Velocity .
No 45 ACP? Oh oh oh Not cool man!
Now I would like this in 30 carbine
Wow the vitriol for tje .45acp...😱
Brother, that round was instrumental in defending freedom for longer than you or I were alive...show some respect!
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Reupload? Sorry I’m dumb dumb but I think I saw this before oO
Yeah, I had some corrections to make
Picked mine up two days ago, already had 500 rounds through it. I love it! It’s a really fun rifle.
For those comparing to the pc carbine, don’t. It’s not the same at all.
Sorry if you can’t afford ~$900. That’s how money works.
It’s going to be my “taking a person shooting for the first time” rifle. Good plinking fun!
Please elaborate on it not being the same at all.
It’s lighter, it’s not a takedown, it’s got wooden furniture, the sights are better (imo), it’s called something different
It's a HENRY!!!🇺🇸👍
I love TH-cam!! They have completely stopped showing me your contact unless I physically search for you 🤷♂️
Ran by commies
i want one i like it!
tube feed would been nice 10 12 rd
Regular Guy review- Good!
all the carbine is, is a Ruger PC Carbine with wood furniture
Which is an advantage in some regions. In a self defense shooting, you want the jury to see a "deer rifle" rather than a "machine gun" to get a not guilty verdict.
That's exactly why I want it, the Ruger PC looks like shit, aesthetically speaking.
Glock mags O-yeah !!pick rail,I still lub glass🎯👌
Def. Need a 44mag.
I’d buy one in 10mm.
4:24 eww something new!!!!! Operating w out the hand guard!!!!
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300 blackout
The rear sight needs to be able to be moved to the BACK OF THE RECIEVER.
You can buy a sight that mounts there. I suspect the reason they didn't put one there is that having it there means you would have to remove it to mount a rail and/or red dot sight. I agree with that logic. I don't want to give up the iron sight option when I mount a red dot.
Why?
There. should be a less traditional economy (tactical) variant for those of us who can't afford to pay 1K. And have pic rail below to mount a light.
Just build an ar9 from palmetto for 500 bones.
You want a HiPoint carbine or Kel-Tec Sub 2000 carbine. Go buy one and stop whining about what Henry offers.
@@sixgunsymphony7408 I've already owned both but want something built to last and reliable.I believe I just found it in the new S&W FPC. BTW, check out Honest Outlaw's new You Tube review of the Henry Homesteader.Was disappointing.
These guns are pointless. Saying two guns, one ammo is silly, using pistol ammo in a rifle defeats the purpose of having the rifle. It's just an expensive plinker.
A carbine is a short, compact rifle. Think of the Sten gun rather than a rifle like the .303 Lee Enfield.
why the silencer
Because quieter is almost always better. Lower risk of hearing damage, less likely to scare off game, and less annoying to other people.
That's a weird question.
Kind of a "tell-me-that-you've-never-used-a-silencer-without-telling-me-that-you've-never-used-a-silencer."
Also, "Why'd you put a muffler on your car?"
.30Carbine anyone?
Have one. Love it.
.45ACP an "obsolete caliber"🤣
I like the traditional style but we all know someone will make a Mlok hand guard and pic-rail adapter to replace the stock with a folding one. Also they should make a version that takes Glock Mags
They make a glock mag adapter model
they do
Why do we need this?
The traditional aesthetics may save you from a legal lynching after a self defense shooting.
I bought it cause I WANTED it, not needed it. Most things are not bought because they are needed but wanted. How big of a house do you really need? How many cars do you really need? How many clothes do you really need? How many shoes do you you really need?
@@robertwalters4676 need and want is essentially the same thing. I think my point is that there are better choices for 9mm carbines out there. I also believe that companies should ask that question before they make a product. Also, for the application that this is designed for, IMO, 9mm seems like an anemic choice.
Looks nice. Not sure it warrants the $1000 price tag but hey, Henry is known for their quality so I'm sure to their loyal fans its very very fair
$770. at Sportsman's Warehouse
$100 today is what $20 was three years ago.
Just bought mine from my local gun shop for $799. MSRP and actual selling price are two different things.
A 22 is enough pinker for me and is good for small game hunting , just wondering why Henry made this gun
Niche rifle.
A full auto version with a hundred round drum mag would be cool
Any gun with that setup would be cool
Drum mag was my first thought. Tommygun style
No shit. Might burn through a few barrels though.
Not bad for a carbine, but my Kel Tec sub2k easily does the job at 100 yards, is far more compact and cant take a 33 found mag if necessary.
This one can take 33 round Glock mags with the appropriate adapter. There's nothing wrong with the Sub2000 but it's nice to have more options on the market.
@@itsapittie an adapter adds expense and an additional failure point
@@seanfoltz7645 Potentially, yes, but if it's engineered for that it may work just fine. With something this new we don't know yet.
@@itsapittie maybe, but it's also twice the cost of the s2k.
KT already did it right and cheaper - I can't understand why people keep trying to redo it worse and more expensive?
@@seanfoltz7645 - Yes and it will start to fail with the adapter after few hundred rounds
Be nice if the background music weren’t so obnoxious
Need a take down version.
Imma guess that isnt going to happen
Such an overrated feature. That added complexity and misplaced weight ruined the PC Charger.
FIRST....Never buy a new model of anything. Cars, guns, or otherwise. Wait for the second debugged version. No idea why this dude is wasting his time and ammo shooting this gun at 250 yards. The bad attitude toward 45 acp is just as dum. Henry has a good idea here but it needs refinement. 1). Add take down capability. 2) 45 acp or better. You could still own a 9mm version too. 3) 5 round mags?? Seriously? At least 2 ten round or more mags in the box. 4). Wood is good but what's on there looks like it was made in high school wood shop. Needs a handsome high quality finish. Do all that and I'll gladly pay the $800 or more Henry thinks it's worth. In it's current version? No thank you.
It has wood on it. Not allowed in 2023!
I have a podcast for you coming up
@@VSO_Gun_Channel will you explain how a 9mm carbine is advantageous to an intermediate rifle cartridge carbine in non-tactical situations? Others seem to have a better idea than I do, so I would like to know what's up
@@grits_taste_good415 they are stupid
@@VSO_Gun_Channel sounds good
@@grits_taste_good415 some people have to go to indoor ranges that don't handle rifle cartridges. Won't blow your ears out if you have to use one indoors. Better small game cartridge than rimfire.
Put 1000 rounds threw a 3d printed glock please and thank you
What are you talking about???
Ghost ring sight 6" away from the eye strikes me as...uneducated.
Daisy Powerline 880 in 9mm made by henry. 👎
Looks cheap and way way way over priced
We live in a time of shortages and hyperinflation. Elections have consequences as $100 today is what $20 was three years ago.
Be glad that Henry offers a defensive carbine with traditional aesthetics as it may save you from a legal lynching after a self-defense shooting. You want a jury to see a "deer rifle" rather than what looks to them like a machine gun.
Then don't buy it.
@@robertwalters4676 exactly
Overpriced , crappy mag size selection
They should have built it to take glock mags
We live in a time of shortages and hyperinflation. Adjust your thinking about costs.
Sales will bring changes to things like cartridge and magazine options.
@@peterv1318 Duh,........it will.
At the moment can't think of a more boring overpriced addition to Henry's line of funky ass looking lever actions.
Henry missed the mark, they could have made a winner out the gate if it was in 10mm, 357mag, 44mag or 45acp. They are competing with everyone at 9mm, and Ruger is crushing them. Right now, it's almost worthless.
357 and 44 don't gonna go well in a box magazine, 45acp is for people with dementia, and it's called the homesteader, not the deer rifle. It's in 9mm for people to shoot coyotes and shit, not to shoot medium game. It's true the Ruger is cheaper, but man the PC carbine is very meaty
9mm is a much more forgiving caliber to work with. Almsot anyone doing a new design in PCC is going to start at 9mm. Figure it out, and then scale. This is the way
Why? What a waste of time. Sucker gun, put in the back of the safe and forget about it.
9 mm rifles is so pointless.
Only when you’re ignorant.
@@Chriskelly19067 Not every gun released has to be for you. There are plenty of use cases for this gun, but I'm sorry it's existence is so upsetting for you.
See my reply to the other insecure manchild.
@@Chriskelly19067 the poors can get a 10/22 or AR for cheaper than this, depending on whether they wanna plink or use it for serious defense
@@anonymousAJ apples to oranges