Budget 4S Battery Test!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2020
- I have been wanting to do this for awhile. A 4S budget battery test.
Our Traxxas X-Maxx, with it's big size and weight puts a heavy load on the batteries. When we first got it, we ran Traxxas batteries - and puffed them quickly!
Over time, we have run multiple brands of batteries in this truck - with varying results. Some batteries will literally puff on the first use depending on how hard we use them during that run!
I was able to pick up 3 sets of budget-minded batteries to test. All cost less than $100 for a pair!
YouMe 6500mah, 60C: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...
Ovonic 4S 6500mah, 50C (exact spec not available at this moment): rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...
Goldbat 5000mah, 50C: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...
To test these batteries, we did 3 things:
1) a voltage hold test where we charged the batteries and measured how much voltage drop there was over 24hrs.
2) run time and voltage drain test. We ran the batteries as hard as possible to see (a) how long they ran, time, (b) did they puff, and (c) how evenly did all of the cells drain.
3) driving feel - could I, as the driver, tell any difference in power level or performance.
Test 1 starts at 1:20
Test 2 starts at 4:06 for the GoldBat, 7:15 for Ovonic, and 9:08 for YouMe
Test 3 starts at 11:51
Final results are shown at 12:26
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Love to see these type of comparison videos. Very informative 👍
That is great! Thanks for the support!
I love seeing the dog chase the car in almost every loop. 😆
Yes! She got some exercise that day!
Thanks for doing that for us. Everyone tells you how they feel about them but you showed us.
Thank you for the nice comment!
I hoped when I did it that it would be useful for folks.
Thanx for the "on time" video of the 4s batteries 👍👍 I've been wanting to get 1 or 2 spares for my $100 speed boat, without breaking the bank. I believe you've sent me into the correct direction. Again Thank You Much !!!
Glad I could help! I figure if I am curious, other folks might be curious also!
@@RoadsideRC , yea I most definitely was curious. I'm working on a normal schedule but the days are getting longer and I'm finding myself with more downtime. That 10 mins or so of boat time, just ISN'T enuff !!! And I think the neighbors are getting tired of my Rovan 360a HaHaHa !!! Be safe and take care 👍👍
Cool stuff dude. I like these type of videos and info. Top stuff buddy
Thanks Tibs!
Great battery test! Well done my friend!!
Thank you very much!
Sure didn't expect the X-Maxx to break in the middle of it.
High speed with the dog chasing was hilarious! Cool video though comparing some budget batteries. Surprised the YouMe's won for something other than hilarious name!
Ha! Yes - I honestly didn't expect them to do the best for whatever reason. Turns out they were pretty good!
Nicely done man, Great comparison vid!!
You put a lot of thought into this well put together! 💯🏎💨👊🏼😎👍🏼
I’ve been using Fluorine batteries in my Xmaxx for little over a year been solid so far
Thanks!
I think you meant Floureon? Danged auto correct? Heck - I still might have miss-spelled it!. :)
I have used multiple of those, and always ended up with the same failure: the connection of the primary wire to one of the battery tabs will break! EVERY TIME! Literally never have puffed a single one.
Roadside RC haha yes that would be it lol I have a habit of not double checking before I press send. 🤦🏼
I have four of those youme lipos. I get very similar results in run time. For cost to quality they really can't be beat. Thanks for sharing these results man!!
Thank you!
Agree - great batteries for the price!
Glad to hear that. I just ordered 2 for my new xmaxx today.
@@jondoe6618 I have over a year on the four I have. And still work great. Balance out nice and same run time
@@SteelCityRC Glad to hear that! I bought a xmaxx but did not get the traxxas batteries as I heard they are crap.So I ordered these to try them out. Man it is hard having this brand new BEAST of a rc and not even be able to turn it on!!! AHHHHHH!!
@@jondoe6618 oh noooo! No lipos!! The Traxxas batteries aren't bad. Just too expensive. But they have a good warranty. For those Youmee get some dense foam for the top so the battery door fits snug then use the four foam pieces included with the truck. Then they fit nice and snug. Without the foam on top they will beat around in there. Have fun man!
Excellent test, sir!
Thanks!
Great lipos Test vid Troy. Those were some interesting data for sure. Been using ovinics lipo for sometime now. They're alright. Two cells on one of the lipo died..it did take a beating for a soft pack. Those are good budget lipo options for sure.
Yes! At the end of the day, I am happy with all three. Given the choice, I might lean towards one in particular, however all will work nicely.
Nice video, its interesting to see how the cheaper batteries perform.
Thank you!
I'm a big Ovonic fan. I run multiple versions in my RC's. Charge time and voltage drop are good and steady. 2s, 7.4v, 6400mah, 50c Ovonic will last over 2 hours constant run in a TRX-4 Sport. I'd say their 5200mah 50c is the best in most fast running vehicles of mine. This of course is relevant towards 2s Lipos only.
I have a few of their 2S and 3S lipos. Been very happy with them!
Great test and information
Thank you!
@@RoadsideRC 👍👊😃
Forget the batteries.. I wanna use whatever energy your dog has because she’s been running the same time as the rc cars and no overheating for her 😊 way to go little one 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾😀
Ha! That his funny! I will admit, she did outlast the X-Maxx on that day!
Great look at these batteries
Thanks! I thought it was interesting to test them!
Cool battery test 👍 I use HOOVO 4s 6000mah 60c batteries in my XMAXX. They fit great and have preformed well for me. They are also available on Amazon like the ones you tested 👍
Thanks for the tip!
Nice work! Subbed
Thank you!
Nice test, i have a 2s goldbat and it is great👍👍👊👊
I bet it is!
This should be eay more liked great video
Thank you! I am glad it was helpful for you.
Keep in mind while it’s nothing like nimh, brand new lipos do still have a break in period. They’ll get more powerful and take more capacity in about 10 cycles roughly.
Good point. I have never tested that personally.
Good thing here, all of these batteries should have been equal from that standpoint.
I've been running YouMe batteries for about 2 years and now only buy them. Bought an XMAXX today and heading to Amazon to grab some more because I know my Maxx will not be happy sharing batteries with his dad.
Ha! Yes, they have been good for me!
Great video! I wonder if the cvd pin was loose for a while, causing some extra drag on the drivetrain and possibly skewing some test results. It looks like it wore away some of the inside of the cup. I don't own an xmaxx, so I'm not sure if it usually hits high-temp cutoff the way yours did.
Have a good one and thanks for sharing!
Great point!
It really could have been dragging for longer.
The one thing that gives me more confidence is I show 2 results from the YouMe batteries. The first result shown from it is after that first partial run. The second full run matched it at min/mah.
Thanks for pointing that out though. I hadn't really thought of that.
Please don't make me do all of this all over again! :)
You're providing a service here, and I commend you. I bought an XMaxx today and am having a hard time trying to find 4s batteries that don't break the bank. Aside from this review, do you have any mid-level (price) battery recommendations?
I have also recently run some Povway and Zee batteries that were purchased on some kind of special / Black Friday deal.
They have also done well so far.
Those you and me 6500mAh 60c batteries have been good so far for me. I've actually destroyed more expensive batteries faster than the cheap ones! I actually bought FOUR youandme batteries for the price of TWO more expensive batteries that I killed already.
Thanks for the feedback!
What kind of charger do you use for the youme battery?
I use a EV-Peak 4-channel charger as my primary charger.
You can see more about it here: th-cam.com/video/1gb8Oohhciw/w-d-xo.html
I am rather surprised to see the run times on the Traxxas X-Maxx on 8s lipo's I thought they'd all last a good 20 plus minutes. That X-Maxx even with the drive shaft pin falling out, it is such a beast truck! What Lipo batteries do you normally use and how long do they last you? Thanks for the video!
Honestly, this test was a little deceiving from a total run time. That is a rather large field, and I was purposely going almost full throttle to full break. I was pushing the truck so hard to test the batteries, that it even went into overheat multiple times.
I still use all of these batteries today for normal bash sessions, and they all last me a nice amount of time - I never really test it. But certainly in that 20+ min range like you would normally expect.
@@RoadsideRC Very Nice!
Hi, I have the same 6500 4s. Charge from 3.8v to 4.2v/cell the capacity is about 2000mah.
In me opinion declared by the manufacturer 6500mah isn't true,😔
What is minimal voltage when You should charge this battery?
Best regards 👍
In general, do not run a lipo down past around 3.3v/cell. As you run them, check to see where the ESC has low voltage cutoff set at.
Yeah man great video! How do u think the youme compares to Traxxas?
All Traxxas batteries I have owned have been very bad, especially in the X-maxx.
@@RoadsideRC thanks
Great video and info man. I have a pair of Goldbat 6000mah on mine. I got mine perfectly balanced at 3.82 out the box and always balanced charge and even after a day of sitting before used they drop to 4.15 the lowest all cells. I also get about 30 to 40 mins of run time bashing around on stock electronics. Still balanced at around 3.65 all cells. Looking to get a second set of batteries soon. I dont like ovonics to much had bad experience with 3 batteries so far from them. I just put one in bath with salt water cuz it was wet inside and started smelling nail polish
Wow!
Thanks for that feedback.
My guess with all of these batteries is that perhaps there is manufacturing variation - and that is most of what I was seeing here. I expect I got 1 bad Goldbat, and it was just bad luck.
Still - even with one battery being weak, it performed very similar to the others!
Roadside RC Goldbat has pretty good customer service. I would call them up and explain to them. Again thanks for the videos and info.
@@Juacocb7 Good point. Thanks!
hi so do u recommend the goldbat batteries ?
@@steveo2009100 i do from my own experience. I have over 10 goldbat batteries from 2s to 4s batteries and had not had any issues with them. At all. But again is my opinion and experience. If u want to try them i recommend getting one or two batteries first and try them out urself and see how they perform for ur application.
Hi can I use a 3s with a 4s batteries together in my xmaxx
That is not recommended. The ESC does not know which battery is which, so may drain one faster than the other. This could result in an over-drain situation.
omg. 12min of runtime per pack... I'm smashed right now. I get around 40min of hard bashing od 4s Erevo V1, 5k mah 50C Gens Ace, I wanted to buy Xmaxx but I will have to carry 4 pair of lipo to get exact runtime?
Ahh, don't be thrown off with this.
I was purposely trying to use the batteries as hard as possible. As much full throttle and full break as I could, with long grass I was running on.
Typical bashing, I get around 30min+.
What 4s battery do you recommend I have a kraton 8s but my spectrum batteries keep dieing and messing up
I have been happy with the ones you see in this video. There are links to the batteries in the video description.
@@RoadsideRC so which lipo brand do you like the best and where do you buy your from
Running HRB 3s packs in my xmaxx and ERevo 2.0 till I get 4s packs for the xmaxx. The xmaxx actually ran the batteries cooler than the ERevo.
Interesting!
I do find the difference between the Erevo and X-maxx interesting from your experience.
@@RoadsideRC My Erevo 2.0 does the same thing.. Puts more load on the batteries.
Would those batteries fit on my small Maxx
Maybe! I am not 100% sure on the size of the Maxx battery tray.
I have a Goldbat 3s 2200 mah and a HRB 3s 1500 mah, HRB seems stronger , maybe just less weight ,enjoyed your tests
Thanks! I don't think I have ever owned an HRB battery.
Do any of these come with the connector that match the stock xmaxx please? its so stupid that they dont all use the same god damn connector. i have an xmaxx without batteries and am loooking for 2 batteries and a charger. which must have at least above 6000mah. can someone help me please.
Getting a soldering iron will be a great help to you in this hobby. It honestly surprises me how often I solder things.
Still, yes, you can get many of these batteries with the standard TRX plug. Here are a few I have had good luck with in the past:
Power Hobby: amzn.to/32393GJ
YouMe: amzn.to/3fX5GcH
Hoovo: amzn.to/3mw12DR
@@RoadsideRC is the xmaxx with deans t plug? what is the traxxas plug they use called?
You will see it referred to as TRX or TRX ID.
@@RoadsideRC www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zeee-14-8V-4S-6000mAh-60C-RC-Hardcase-Lipo-Battery-Deans-T-Plug-for-RC-Car-Arrma/143938810719?hash=item21836bf35f:g:jnEAAOSwzehgDZtD so this is not compatible?
So I did pick up the Youme batteries, and they have been lasting about 12 mins every time, which kinda sucks, especially since a reviewer on Amazon said these thing last him up to 1.5 hours.
1.5hours is a complete lie! The only batteries that have ever lasted me that long are crawler and drift batteries.
Seriously! You should check out Amazon. This guy's review is at the top for this particular battery. He even has multiple "updates" stating it is consistently running that long in his xmaxx.
You guys still using YouMe batteries? If so what do you think of them? I just picked up a set of YouMe & HRB 4s lipos for my Xmaxx. Also, would love HRB batteries to be tested as well, they are very similar price to YouMe on Amazon.
Yep - still using all of the batteries in this test. Only filmed this one a little while ago, so all of them are still strong!
@@RoadsideRC Awesome, hey how are you testing the Mah? Does your charger tell you the mah?
@@everborn3406 Yes sir. The charger records how much mah it puts back into the battery.
@@RoadsideRC Not to keep bothering you but what dual charger do you use?
Wow 🤩
Thank you
Why do they get used up soo fast? I use the youve 6500 ones for my cheap ones and they last 20iah mins bashing hard. Also I use Powerhobby 8500 and they last 40mins. Absolutely insane for time and they have a huge noticeable Power increase.
I was in rather tall grass, with very heavy full-throttle to full-break constantly. Literally, no break for the battery to recover.
Like you, these batteries last me much longer in typical bashing scenarios.
what about port balance for youme after discharge?
I had no issues with charging the batteries after use. All of them were fine.
@@RoadsideRC ok, thx
Nice Test. But how these Batteties compared to the original ftom Traxxas?
I believe they are all better than Traxxas batteries
@@RoadsideRC thanks for answering. I'am up to buying a X Maxx 8s. But didn't see any positive review (except the Fanboys and Sellers) for the Traxxas Batteries. The Discharge of 25C seems to low to me.
cool video, my dear friend, keep it up!!! like !!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!
Hi, it would be nice if someone can help me with this.
SSS 56104 brushless motor
500KV.
I would like to know which battery fits the above devices? Thank you
The battery does not fit the motor spec. It needs to fit the vehicle (dimensions) and ESC spec.
How many volts battery does the? 14.8V or 22.2V need?
Thank you for your prompt reply🤗
@@mehrannaavid5001 I run 2x 4S batteries - so 14.8V each battery = 29.6V total.
@@RoadsideRC 👍🏾👍🏾🤚🏾Thanks.
Its kinda difficult to chose the better battery when none of them have the same mah. Not to mention 1 is rated a 60c. The data will obviously go in favor with youme because of it. The only thing you really could pull data on are each individual cell while on the charger. Good video on the quality of each though👍
Thanks for the feedback!
interesting is it better 100 c batteries or 60 c batteries ?
Honestly, I don't trust the c-rating on most batteries. However, I would still default to the highest c-rating I can afford.
@@RoadsideRC i have mcm 8000mah 100 c , never had overheating ,thermal cut of or problems with them , i have fun for 30 min
max 5 punch 4 original motor 20:46
are the power hobby batteries hard case ?
Yes they are. Which also means they are larger and don't really fit the battery trays nicely.
@@RoadsideRC Do you have any Recommend batteries that will work great and fit great with killing the pocket .. Great Video by the way just order my truck and its one the way trying to get me battery before its here .
@@jr26731 Thanks for the compliment. I would recommend picking one of the batteries that I show here. It appears the YouMe was the clear winner.
What high-quality batteries are you using with the xmaxx and what run times are you getting
I use the batteries you see in this video!
Will 6s battery fit it the x-maxx
Depends on how big it is.
Most of these batteries are around 40mm wide and tall.
There are folks who make a battery strap system for the X-maxx. At that point, almost anything will fit.
@@RoadsideRC 👍👍
Great test dude...👑
I use a battery 4s 6000mah. 55C
Now I bought a battery 4s 6000 mah 120C.
What change will I feel? ... by power ...driving time..
I charge regular ?
Thanks
Charging and everything like that will be the same.
I doubt you will be able to feel a difference in the two batteries.
I pull rcs an run ovonics an goldblatt plus more brands of batteries an dont have any issues with them being out of balance
Good to hear.
There is a chance this one set from Goldbat was a dud. Even to this day, it struggles to stay balanced.
Screw the batteries. How many lipos before the dog is worn out? Lmao 😂
1 Million unfortunately!!!! That dog just never quits. :)
Thank you!
Dam i bet you're dog slept well that night 😂
Ha! Yes!
@@RoadsideRC
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Not a fair test since they have different capacity and ratings. And thus have a different nominal output....
Good point!
Basically all shitty batts under 3 to high maybe 5min or 11min of runtime just dont cut it! So ya buy more expensive batteries so you get 20 to 30 min run time take brake charge them batts again run other set of high quality batteries, and those proline wheel and tire cut your times in half since so freaking heavy, I have rock & roll 8s xmaxx traxxas 4s 6700mah batts and honestly a good 30min runs bashing and playing around with it.
The times you see in this video are not typical. Typical driving includes some slow downs, lining up for jumps, things like that. This driving was trying to be as 100% on throttle or on brake as possible. That will obviously suck the batteries down faster than typical running.
When I go bashing with any of these batteries, they last longer than you see here.
you need to gear down for the test next time!
That would certainly help with the overheating!
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Why woukdnt u test all same milliamp hour makes no sense why u would do that at all 😆
Simple: they don't all make the same mah batteries.
Max-amps are some of the absolute worst batteries on the market
I would be surprised by that. Why do you say that?
Roadside RC everyone I’ve seen purchase and test them have got nothing but trash results. Worse than traxxas batteries. One source I saw got a C performance of 10c.
Maxapp batteries are garbage for prize not worth it
Honestly - I never paid the $$$ to test them. People who use them, swear by them though! I'm just too cheap!
@@RoadsideRC I believe you pay for what you get true. But i got some cheap batteries ......zop .....2 ...4s lipo batteries for 60$ 2 years on my xmaxx still running great .one bent and still working great lol
@@Angel-dn9sm Ha! I have bent a couple myself!!