Oh and thank you as always Max, please keep it up !........The argument both Christian & Islamic Leaders used against Coffee Houses was the exact same argument 1950's & Early 60's Era American Authorities used against The Beatnik's Coffee Houses in NYC, LA, & SF.
It's funny how the feminist movement in its earlier manifestatios was more concerned with banning things that gave men reasons yo stay out of home, such as alcohol, coffee, and even tea (with varied degrees of success) rather than giving women the right to vote, which was the only right women achieved after feminism emerged. Suspicious.
Puddle water makes me think of the German expression for very thin coffee, which is flower coffee (Blümchenkaffee) because it allows you to see the interior decor of the cup. 😊
@@Dave-ft3tp Wall kid (1989) here. It's an Eastern thing. They made it thinner to save money (often by mixing used coffee grounds with the new ones). Another piece of evidence showing that a socialist economy is always inferior.
Another contemporary record related to the discourse around coffee is Bach's "Coffee Cantata", a comic work about a woman exasperating her father with her coffee addiction. She apparently stops when her father threatens not to marry her off, but she secretly meets suitors to agree on allowing her to drink coffee whenever she pleases. Anybody reading should give it a listen.
A drink bringing people together but instead of wasting their time in drunkedness they're wide awake for meaningful conversation, that's gotta be a dangerous thing for the rulers back in the days.
Oh my god, i might actually finish my work in something resembling 9 hours and not stumble through it half-inebriated over 12 hours like a peasant? Fuck me for having ambition, i guess.
Fun fact about eggs in cocktails: The creaminess comes from the yolk, the foam comes mainly from the white. If you want foam but not cream, add whites. If you want cream without dairy, add the yolk (maybe beaten a little first). If you want both, add the whole thing!
@@otterlyfresh2886 Not quite, as you can make foam from pure egg yolks (with or without sugar depending on what you’re using it for) as well, but unlike meringue it tends to deflate fairly quickly.
And then you've got that horrid little white cable that connects the two which is utterly culinarily useless and adds a negative experience unless removed in most cases
@@jek__ I have a degree in culinary. The whole egg is very useful as a thickening agent. For drinks and food. Look at Eggnog. But then again, that beautiful simple little egg can make wonderful things. Vast amounts infact. Cheers
Love your lilting alliteration every time you sneak some in. Today's "the libidinous ladies of London were laid low by the lust-lessening latte," was superior.
For real. That "lusty ladies of London" line is gold. Maybe it's my love for coffee talking (drinking some now) , but this episode deserves an award. Max, you're awesome.
One thing I really enjoy about your content is how you do actual research, vet your resources, and point that out to your viewers. As a librarian, I appreciate that people are learning the right way to research while enjoying the fruits of your labors. That drink looks good.
The swedish word Fika comes from one of the coffee bans. Back then, coffee was called kaffi and in order to prevent the authorities overhearing you planning to drink it, they swapped the order of the word and fika became a thing.
"Lusty ladies of London laid low" oh my goodness. This was one of the most uproariously funny videos of yours that I've seen. Interesting to see the origins of the "coffee makes you sober" misconception as well. Great mix of comedy and history as always.
Your reading of the coffeehouse widows' lamentations are hilarious. Great episode, Max Miller! You've been killing it lately. Haggis video was legendary.
You combine 2 of my most favorite things!! Food and history. I was going to be a history teacher but I decided I was too meek and mild to deal with high school students so I became a nurse.
There are LOTS of coffee substitutes, many of them used by early immigrants to the western US, some of them originally created by native people here long before coffee arrived. They would make a fascinating Drinking History episode! My favorite is roasted dandelion root (as tea or powdered, I prefer it powdered). The taste is earthy but not bitter, and so rich. It's also an excellent source of iron, so unfortunately I have to limit my intake as I have naturally too-high iron (the only disease for which blood-letting is STILL about the only treatment)!
@Caspen Black, do you often donate your blood? I think it could be a way to have your dandelion root without consequences & also help people who need it.
@@bsteven885 Wouldn't work. People with hemochromatosis don't have _more_ blood than the average person, just more iron per blood volume. So they still need to wait the same amount of time between blood drawings. And excessive iron can cause liver damage, among other things.
the reason for coffee becoming even more popular than it was before under Murad IV may have been that his ban on alcohol had caused people to change their social beverage of choice to coffee, a stimulant, rather than the depressant alcohol. Something to a similar effect may also be observed in popularity of coffee in today's Turkey where the extent of indirect taxation on alcoholic beverages has practically rendered alcohol-centered socialization something of a luxury.
I think this is the first alcohol ad read I've seen where it's actually mentioned that alcohol can't be shipped to every state. As someone who lives in a state where you can't get alcohol delivered I appreciate this as maybe an increased awareness of the issue could garner more support to change it.
My own family learned this when my mother tried mailing some bottles to my uncle. Fittingly enough for this video, the drink in question was coffee brandy.
@@billh.1940 It's not just dry states. There are some states where beer and wine can be sold anywhere but hard liquor must be sold only in state-run liquor stores. Those are the states where you typically can't have liquor delivered directly to you.
This drink is similar to a traditional Chilean cocktail called "vaina," which adds cacao liqueur, cinnamon and ice, but it uses the yolk only. (Vaina is a word with multiple meanings in Spanish. In some parts of Latin America it means a problem, a mess, a kind of situation. In Chile it means the sheath of a sword, the pod in which beans grow, or the drink.)
I love this. One for history, two for cocktails, and 3 Sprigagito in the back round! Aaaaaah. I love the history here and how deep you go into everything. Also the cutaway with just "egg" as you drop the egg white if perfect.
@@TastingHistory I'm about to deep dive these videos. If you haven't had one already I'd love to see a video of yours of the American Whiskey rebellion and the various rebellions to happen because of taxes and laws that changed whiskey. A perfect example would be why Irish whiskey is made with non malted barley compared to traditional scotch with malted barley
The amount of work put into the research, recipes, and production is incredible. I’m so glad I clicked on your Garum episode because this channel is one of my favorites.
Back in highschool I learned an old fashioned German song about how bad coffee is, it goes: C-A-F-F-E-E don't drink so much coffee, not for children is the Turkish brew, weakens nerves and makes you pale and ill. I'm just glad we had no song about how healthy smoking is.
I learned that song in elementary school, but I hope nobody sings it nowadays, because the last line: “Don’t be a Mussulman, that can’t can’t help but drink it” is pretty racist.
@@marmotarchivist oh no a 200 year old song uses outdated language and *shuffles deck* Calls turkish people (because back then, muslims mostly stemmed from the ottoman empire, hence also the term "muselmann", muslim + ottoman) coffe drinkers
Honestly, some coffee in your bath will give you a caffeine boost and you can use the grounds as an exfoliating scrub. Smells good, no excessive acid in your gut, and gives you a slightly darker tone /false tan 😸
Baptism is a very specific sacrament that is only meant for human beings. I'm sure if something like that happened it was the Pope blessing the coffee with holy water.
I’m all-in for alliteration and “clearly, the libidinous ladies of London were laid low by the lust-lessening latte” said with a straight face gave me to guffaw! Such a great channel. Would love to have you on my radio show, Max.
Anything that men enjoy/enjoyed has a pretty wild history. First it was coffee, then it was alcohol. Now, it's firearms. The largest amount of votes in favor of taking them away is from women. Same as it was for coffee and alcohol.
@@kaitlyn__L Feel free to look it up. Women we're the ones complaining about their men drinking coffee and alcohol too much. The female vote is what tipped the scale to allow prohibition to get passed. Now we have a bunch of stay at home moms (mothers of America) complaining about guns. They were actually the group that bullied my old highschool to stop and get rid of our rifle team and guns. We legitimately had an armory on campus with the school's .22 competition rifles. Women are almost 54% of the total US population. Studies and surveys show almost all active female voters are in favor of taking guns away. And I don't want to hear any ad hominems. If your just going to throw "iNcEl" or "mIsOGynIst" at me, just don't.
@@smithsmith1956 I was honestly still processing how you were inferring women just basically don’t want men to have fun, but now you’ve practically said it directly without even needing my inference! I’d probably look at it through a less one-dimensional lens, ie I wouldn’t be surprised if it is specifically married middle-class white women who voted for prohibition and just had an outsized influence on the overall vote due to various disenfranchisement reasons. I mean, I think alcohol prohibition was nonsense and hurt far more than it helped, and I think the same about modern eg pot prohibition. I’d hope that was kind of obvious but I’m saying it just in case lmao Anyway, do you have any, let’s say, preferred policy proposals in response to the situation you’ve laid out? Or is it just something you enjoy complaining about? (And I don’t mean that as an insult, everyone has things they like to bellyache about…)
"Cuz he was dead" is my favourite quote so far from Tasting History. Tied with the Hardtack clip. Love your work, Max, keep it up! :D I'd love to see you do an episode exploring the history and origins of the Old Fashioned - it's my fave drink and I'd love to see your take on it.
If you want to be extra safe with the eggs, and you have a sous vide, you can pasteurized them. Most instructions I’ve found say 75 minutes at 135*F. I do recommend placing them in a bag first as the eggs tend to take on water (and develop very runny whites) if you put them directly in the pot. Also works for cookie dough (but microwave the flour first to sterilize it as well)
If you see how they get processed you would see how unlikely it is. It also matters how much is in there, so really it's only dangerous if you left some eggs lying around a long time, especially at room temp AND they were infected.
@@imnotliketheothernerds You of course Rinse the Eggshells first before cracking them and make sure they are undamaged as well as make sure the seller inspected/candled them.
Love this series and enjoyed recreating the Hemingway or also called Death in the Afternoon. And I immediately thought of Dana Carvey as The Church Lady saying "it could be Satan" when speaking of coffee being banned by the church.
I decided to watch your episode on 1.5x speed, just after you had your sips of the "coffee" drinks. It gave an extra sensation you were enjoying your "coffee" with your history.
it may sound weird but i find it rather nice.. 1 part merlot, 1 part coffee.. the acidity/ sweetness of the wine cuts through the coffees bitterness and the bitterness of the coffee cuts the sweetness of the wine.. it has a sweet start and a smooth finish and tastes like chocolate covered grapes.. some people have said they really like it and others have said im insane but give it a try and see for yourself..
If you want coffee without the bitterness, I wholeheartedly recommend Ethiopian single-origin beans. Latin American beans in particular are quite bitter, whereas Ethiopian beans are fruity, floral, and are a wholly separate thing from the kind of coffee you're used to drinking.
Just my opinion to my personal taste buds here: Ethiopian beans tend to be more acidic, great for getting an ulcer, but not necessarily less bitter. Most people can't taste both at once so Ethiopian beans taste less bitter to most people, but that technically is not the case. A proper high end bean has a reduction in bitter and acid. This flavor profile makes a sweeter roast, subtle in flavor but if you make a latte or add milk it will make the milk taste sweeter than it would otherwise. There are two directions one can go in the flavor profile, fruity and chocolaty. Fruity is possible with more acidic and cheaper beans, chocolate and nutty flavored beans require low bitter and low acid.
@@Danielle_1234 Actually brewing method makes a big difference in acidity and bitterness, likely moreso than bean origin or quality. A very consistent grind from a burr grinder, hot brew temp, and proper bloom will reduce both acidity and bitterness as well as accentuate the regional flavors. Acidity is seen as a plus among the ultra coffee nerds
@@helmholtzthemulewatson4763 It contains compounds that generally taste bitter. It’s like how you can add sugar to something sour to make it less sour without removing any acidity.
I stopped buying Ethiopian coffee since it's the country's highest-taxed export and all of that money was going towards the decimation of the people in Tigray. Hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, and there is widespread famine in the region and surrounding areas. They finally called a truce exactly 2 years to the date the conflict started. If it lasts I'll gladly start buying again, because you're right single-origin beans are bright, and making Buna in a Jebna calls for just the right beans
A warning for the dry shaking step, if you’re using a Boston shaker make sure you get it really good and sealed. Usually the ice helps to lock the tins together but without it you’re more likely to end up with a mess. Also if you have a Hawthorne strainer, you can throw the spring in for the dry shake and it’ll froth up even more.
This was very pleasant to listen to while I had my breakfast with my cup of coffee in the morning! Don't know if it was intentional, but you had great timing with the upload, since most people would have their caffeine kick early in the day.
That pamphlet is singlehandedly the reason the alleged moral panic around coffee is my favorite alleged moral panic. Though one thing to note is that Murad IV's coffee ban and Charles II's attempted coffee house ban may have had the similar reasons. Murad's ban came alongside a wide variety of similar bans that targeted social gatherings specifically in the capital, including coffee and alcohol, alongside a curfew that all combined to make it somewhat harder to assemble outside of work without drawing royal attention. Having spent much of his teenage years as a puppet ruler for his mother and the courtiers backing her, it's believed Murad may have been a tad paranoid about the plotting going on in the capital once he grew older and wrested control back from them.
This has to be my favorite episode of yours that I've seen. The period descriptions of coffee's alleged effects were wonderful and so, so funny. I have no doubt I'll be watching this video more than once. Thanks!
I actually read that on micro-fiche back in the day. Absolutely hilarious and almost certainly not penned by women. Actually a discourse on both capitalism and gender roles.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory most stop. And bans usually last long enough to change the consumption culture surrounding it. All for the better as far as I can tell. At least personally haven't heard of any serious ill affects being caused by such.
@@MrEmiosk you've NEVER studied American history at all have you? Specifically regarding the prohibition. Even this example shows people avoiding a ban.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory seems someone else needs to read and understand history, and not just american history. No the prohibition wasn't as big and as bad as implied in tv documentaries or books brushing past the subject. The prohibition led to a drinking culture that stopped binge drinking and overall decreased the avarage alcohol consumtion level to such a degree, that if I'd be drinking like the average man did before the prohibition, then I'd be considered a wastrel incabable of work because I'd be perpetually drunk. Before prohobition half of your daily food nourishment came from beer. My own country went through the same, monopoliced alcohol and brought to heel rampant overconsumption. Yes it brought smuggling, boot liquor etc. But it is only a overemphasised footnote of what happened, and the end results being far better than before. Open a fucking book first before assuming things.
@@MrEmiosk most substance bans, especially early on, were based on discrimination. Either to discriminate against non-Christians, non white, or non masculine peoples. The bans would often incarcerate unfairly and repress people from being themselves, to the point that we have lost so many cultures in time that it’s near impossible to understand the history of entire regions. It’s quite convoluted so I urge you to look into things more, and weigh the perspective of the author. Seek the voice of the repressed.
It's possible to buy pasteurized whole eggs. I was a chef in a nursing home that bought these for the more fragile residents. Although we cooked them, the pasteurized whole eggs would work for a recipe where you're using raw eggs.
Hey Max, you can buy pasteurized eggs. So for recipes that require raw eggs if you are concerned about illness of any kind you have an option and besides looking a little cloudy they're identical to regular raw eggs and you won't notice a difference.
@@fortheloveofnoise and technology moves on. Look you're on a computer or smartphone. Don't be such a luddite. It's just a level of protection if there is concern. You don't have to be a jerk about it. Man you are touchy. I am just mentioning that the choice is out there. If you want to eat unpasteurized raw eggs or whatever go ahead that's your choice. No guardrails on life, have at it snowflake. You can do it your way and good luck to you. But just remember the world doesn't revolve around you. If you don't like it, tough.
And their comment is shadowbanned so now it just looks like I am arguing with myself. I hate it when nasty people are censored. Look it's important to push back against people like that. TH-cam or whoever did that is taking away a learning opportunity for anyone who happens across this. The person said that humans evolved to eat raw food. That's partly true but also kinda false. We are the product of humans cooking food and increasing survival by doing so. Also some people have medical concerns that are important. But it's important to note that there was no reason why they had to be upset by my pointing out the existence of pasteurized eggs. Really if they don't like them then they don't have to buy them. See how easy that is? The person's need to push back is noteworthy. And the person has earned the response with some scorn. Hopefully they will learn that they are not the only important person in the world. Actually it is fair to say that they aren't important at all and their opinion could have been kept to themselves and they would have followed the old adage "It's better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubts." So if you can't bring something constructive to the conversation then stay out of it. But I don't like that they were silenced because I think it's important to push back at these people. These buttinskis who butt in to every conversation because they just want to impose their weak will on others. Look if you disagree with pushing back then don't. Leave that task to people like me who have had enough of these people and aren't shy or afraid to say something. The person who responded to me was just being a troll and I believe that they deserve the light of day. I also think that they deserve to be pushed back against even if it starts an argument. Leaving them to obscurity is helping them in a way and hampers discourse. I think their ignorant and ill informed argument should not be shadowbanned and preserved for posterity. I think that there needs to be record of their ludicrous behavior so that future generations can marvel at their ignorance and desire to foist themselves into a conversation that they have no business in. And future generations of their line can feel the sting of shame for being related to these kinds of people. So please release them from the shadows and unban their thoughtless comment for I am not done ridiculing them and they have this coming. They earned it and the bill has come due. Now let me at them and allow them to respond so that I may be nourished by their tears and the lamentations of their women. Too much? Just remember that for every troll there are also troll hunters. The hunt is good here. Let them loose so they can lose. They brought it upon themselves.
It's quite rare to get illness from raw eggs, especially if they're farm fresh, like roadside egg stands up here in New England, and washed. The scare about raw egg and raw beef seems to strictly be a north American thing, as these things are consumed in Europe quite often. I think many of the salmonella scares were mostly due to the unclean cramped environment from factory farming, eggs are from sick and overcrowded animals that contract salmonella and spread it to their eggs. 30 fatalities per year from salmonella by different sources, not eggs alone, which sounds like a lot but for context 40 people are attacked by bears per year in the US so you have a greater chance of being attacked by a bear than contracting a deadly case of salmonella from any source. With that being said, anyone concerned about it should know about pasteurized eggs if they want to feel safer! It's not worth the anxiety for some.
@@MermaidMakes you're absolutely right but also people constantly talk about the risks of consuming raw eggs so it's good to have a product available so those who are paranoid can enjoy a raw egg every now and then.
The Prussian King Frederick the Great had banned the private roasting of coffee and to enforce the ban hired people who could recognize coffee by its smell, who were called "Kaffeschnüfler"
I love this history of coffee! I learned so much~ Though I already knew about the Dead Pope Trial from Caitlin Doughty & the ban from Charles II from the Restoration episode of Supersizers. I didn't know about that pamphlet or that it was banned more than once, though. Thank you for such an excellent episode! ❤
You can actually use water from boiled chickpeas instead of eggwhites if you are afraid of getting sick or if you just dont eat egg. This is called aquafaba, havent yet done any egg cocktails tho
That was some impressive and funny alliteration! "The lubidinous ladies of London were laid low by the lust-lessening latte." I paused just so I could write it down! xD
I agree with the description at the beginning. I like tea, hot chocolate, and cider. Also i would love to see a collab between you and How to Drink on some old cocktails
The problem isn’t whether or not I hate it. It’s whether or not I like it. Essentially, “I don’t hate it” sums it up. Look forward to trying more of these concoctions, food and beverage-wise.
as a practicing, traditional Catholic I always wonder who wrote those kinds of stories down and cringe at some of the oddities that could have happened. In other news...Max's smile as he drinks that is so freakin adorable.
Murad IV was a drunkard but banned coffee because Quran forbids intoxicants. Real reason seemed to be that he thought coffee houses were places to brew rebellion(since people spoke politics rather than drunken grind).
Rex Stout, ‘30s author of the wonderful Nero Wolfe mystery series, put out an extraordinary cookbook. One of my favorite recipes is buttery scrambled eggs cooked with a bit of cognac. Highly recommend and highly recommend the entire book.
I was in school Monday thru Thursday this week and have my Friday morning free and what a pleasant surprise it is to have a new tasting history episode to watch while making breakfast! Have a good morning Max!
1:30 if you are super, super paranoid about raw eggs, or you need to bake cookies with other people's kids and need to be super cautious, you can use a sous vide machine to pasteurize raw eggs.
thank you for all the great videos! point of contention: at min 06:22, when you talk about coffe coming to england, the painting is of the first VIENNESE coffee house, "zu der Blauen Flaschen".
In Sweden, coffee was taxed heavily from the 1740s, and banned five separate times during the 18th and early 19th centuries. King Gustav III of Sweden (r. 1771-1792) was very concerned about the dangers of coffee consumption, and initiated what is sometimes considered the first clinical trial in history: he found a pair of identical twins who had been condemned to death; in return for commuting their sentences to life imprisonment, one of them had to drink several pots of coffee each day, and the other a comparable amount of tea. The idea was to see which one lived longest. Of course, the experiment was a bust; the king died long before the twins, and the doctors set to monitor the experiment were also dead by the time the king passed away.
@@TastingHistory I suggest looking up/contacting Lucas Sin. He's done many videos over various channels talking about Hong food and cuisine. I bet he would be a great guest star!
Thanks Max! As a coffee roaster that was so entertaining. I had to chuckle as there is a roaster/cafe in Melbourne called Vertue Coffee Roasters named for the pamphlet you quoted from.
loved this episode and yeah, some historical religious figures can do crazy things, corpse pope trial being one of them, the youtuber Caitlin Doughty (Ask a Mortician) did a fantastic video on that trial if anyone wants to learn more :)
So coffee was "drinking bitter puddle water"? Well, a guest at Thomas Jefferson's table once scoffed at the tomato served there as "this sour trash." I guess new foods take a while to grow on people
The ignorance in the past blows me away. A drink comes along that doesn't lay anyone low, that stimulates thought and action, and people lose their minds. Now that I think about it, that kind of ignorance is still prevalent.
I grew up on a farm. Fresh unwashed eggs do not need to be refrigerated for several weeks. Always refrigerate washed eggs (store bought). Eggs will maintain a higher quality when stored in the refrigerator - washed or not. However, unwashed fresh eggs will keep the best. I still purchase mine fresh and they never get refrigerated. It's only necessary once they've been washed because their protective coating "cuticle" has been washed off.
You should consider having Atun-Shei Films read some of these Early Modern English notes in original pronunciation. I found myself rereading them and it really popped in that old dialect! But a great episode. :D
When I was in the military I had the chance to drink coffee in England, Turkey, and Germany. The best coffee I have ever tasted was in the U.K., it has a frothy oil floating on the top, I was told it was because they don't wash the oils off of the coffee beans. I dunno if that's true, but I could not drink coffee when I came back to the U.S. because I thought is was so weak and tasteless. Fortunately there are mail order coffee companies with coffee superior to "store bought".
I don’t know if American pre ground somehow removes it, but that’s usually down to using a paper filter (absorbs some oils) versus a mesh filter. So perhaps the popularity of cafetières (French presses) here explains it. But you can get the same effect from an American drip machine with a mesh filter. Again can’t speak for American pre ground, but British pre ground certainly doesn’t remove anything. Maybe you’d need to grind your own beans.
I am extremely skeptical that the "petition on behalf of ladies" was actually written by any ladies. *Edit:* Obviously I had not finished the video when I posted this, how nice of Max to prove me right so quickly afterward! xD
I had the exact same thought lol. I was like, "No way this wasn't written by a dude." Lord knows I've read enough badly written women, by men, to recognize it almost immediately - and whaddya know! But very much enjoyed Max's reading lol
I was side-eyeing that with the first words and then they started rolling the longer it went on. When it got to the "talkativeness" I just went "Okay unknown writer dude, that's enough."
@@Sarlat7 the comment about being undisputed champions at talkativeness made me go yikes, but I had believed it was just ingrained automisogyny. Was relieved when he said it was just a guy 😅
My GI doctor tried to get me off coffee because I was having acid reflux. Best I could manage was switching to decaf - I didn't last 24 hours. It's definitely an addiction
If any government banned coffee and tea I think they would find themselves in a cell rather than the people. Would be the fastest speed run to full blown revolution in history
Same here about the alcohol. Alcoholism runs in my family, so I abstain from drinking it entirely. It's been fun looking up how to make mocktails in place of cocktails. I do like coffee, but it's nice to have a variety of different drinks to make.
The Coffee Cocktail is essentially a Flip, and the yoke is what’s adding the creamy texture to the drink. Also to avoid the chance of catching anything bad from consuming raw eggs make sure to use fresh Eggs in your cocktails.
Fun Egg Fact! The egg becomes cooked when you mix it with all the booze. The Alcohol denatures the proteins and kills bacteria the exact same way heat does. This is the same principal that makes eggnog safe to drink, even after its left to age for weeks. You can also see this happen first hand by cracking an egg in Everclear (or other pure alcohol 'drink')
My funny coffee story was when I was pregnant with my last kid. We were potty training a great dane puppy and I couldn't tell the smell from an accident or the coffee my husband made at 3 am to go to work. Fortunately he was trained quickly. He would also wake me up when my blood sugar dropped at night. He lived nine blessed years! I want another, but they are heartbreaking when they pass so young. 6 is average, but thirteen can happen. We have a great Pyranees now, and while he's a good dog, they listen like a brick. Treats are motivation but even then, you have to walk out and get them sometimes. When my dane got out, he was so guilty. But the chihuahua would jump into my arms and I would walk him back. It didn't happen often thank God! He was a nice dog but didn't like other males. The GP just keeps visitors in there car until I go get them, which is what we want.
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I'm watching this as, I'm drinking my morning coffee.
Oh and thank you as always Max, please keep it up !........The argument both Christian & Islamic Leaders used against Coffee Houses was the exact same argument 1950's & Early 60's Era American Authorities used against The Beatnik's Coffee Houses in NYC, LA, & SF.
try espresso with baileys cream liquer and a tiny bit of sugar
From now on I will always think of coffee as "puddle water".
i cant help but think that is a Simpsons reference to "Mister Black"
My family ended up in America because my great grandfather got caught smuggling coffee between Switzerland and Italy!
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I want to see that movie.
That sounds like a Wes Anderson movie.
@@RazorO2Productions They need to cast Harrison Ford...
It's funny how the feminist movement in its earlier manifestatios was more concerned with banning things that gave men reasons yo stay out of home, such as alcohol, coffee, and even tea (with varied degrees of success) rather than giving women the right to vote, which was the only right women achieved after feminism emerged.
Suspicious.
Puddle water makes me think of the German expression for very thin coffee, which is flower coffee (Blümchenkaffee) because it allows you to see the interior decor of the cup. 😊
Interesting never heard of such expression before. Which of the German federal state are you from? Thanks for shearing.
@@Dave-ft3tp Wall kid (1989) here. It's an Eastern thing. They made it thinner to save money (often by mixing used coffee grounds with the new ones). Another piece of evidence showing that a socialist economy is always inferior.
@@cerberaodollam Wieder was dazu gelernt, Danke dafür. Grüße in die nicht mehr so neuen Bundesländer aus BW.
@@Dave-ft3tp I am from NRW but my mom (who is fond of the expression) is from Leipzig so that matches the other explanation. :)
@@anska7475I see, thank you for sharing! Leipzig is an amazing city I've been there many times.
Another contemporary record related to the discourse around coffee is Bach's "Coffee Cantata", a comic work about a woman exasperating her father with her coffee addiction. She apparently stops when her father threatens not to marry her off, but she secretly meets suitors to agree on allowing her to drink coffee whenever she pleases. Anybody reading should give it a listen.
They just don’t make advertisements like they used to.
Neeeeeeeeeeeeerd
Yes, it is a wonderful cantata. The closest work to an opera Bach ever wrote.
“Zweigt stille, plaudert nicht.” 😂
You got purty words.
A drink bringing people together but instead of wasting their time in drunkedness they're wide awake for meaningful conversation, that's gotta be a dangerous thing for the rulers back in the days.
Yes
Oh my god, i might actually finish my work in something resembling 9 hours and not stumble through it half-inebriated over 12 hours like a peasant? Fuck me for having ambition, i guess.
That's....quite makes sense...
England once banned absinthe because their commies loved to share bottle when discussing about worker's rights.
It was.
Fun fact about eggs in cocktails:
The creaminess comes from the yolk, the foam comes mainly from the white. If you want foam but not cream, add whites. If you want cream without dairy, add the yolk (maybe beaten a little first). If you want both, add the whole thing!
Doesnt the yolk generally destroy the foam, which is why you separate them when making meringue?
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Not quite, as you can make foam from pure egg yolks (with or without sugar depending on what you’re using it for) as well, but unlike meringue it tends to deflate fairly quickly.
An egg is used as a thickener. It is used the same in a Moussaka
And then you've got that horrid little white cable that connects the two which is utterly culinarily useless and adds a negative experience unless removed in most cases
@@jek__ I have a degree in culinary. The whole egg is very useful as a thickening agent. For drinks and food. Look at Eggnog. But then again, that beautiful simple little egg can make wonderful things. Vast amounts infact. Cheers
Love your lilting alliteration every time you sneak some in. Today's "the libidinous ladies of London were laid low by the lust-lessening latte," was superior.
It struck me, too.
While their smart scholarly spouses slyly shirked spending strenuous stressful spells (and supposedly scarce scanty sexytime) with them.
Your own “lilting alliteration” is a worthy addition, as well.
Yay! More Drinking History! The amount of work it takes for two episodes a week isn't going unnoticed, Max. Thanks 😊
Thank you! Another one coming soon, and yes, these weeks basically see me never leave my office 😆
For real. That "lusty ladies of London" line is gold. Maybe it's my love for coffee talking (drinking some now) , but this episode deserves an award. Max, you're awesome.
One thing I really enjoy about your content is how you do actual research, vet your resources, and point that out to your viewers. As a librarian, I appreciate that people are learning the right way to research while enjoying the fruits of your labors. That drink looks good.
The swedish word Fika comes from one of the coffee bans. Back then, coffee was called kaffi and in order to prevent the authorities overhearing you planning to drink it, they swapped the order of the word and fika became a thing.
Interesting. That sounds almost like verlin in France
@@Mr8lacklp did you mean verlan by any chance?
@@Dave-ft3tp I did. I just always assumed it was spelled with an 'i' like the word it's derived from
@@Dave-ft3tp no I'm just bad at spelling
@@Mr8lacklp As an slightly dyslexic person, I can relate. French spelling is a complex thing.
"Lusty ladies of London laid low" oh my goodness. This was one of the most uproariously funny videos of yours that I've seen. Interesting to see the origins of the "coffee makes you sober" misconception as well. Great mix of comedy and history as always.
Your face while shaking the cocktails is almost as good as that of your hard tack expression. LOVE IT!
I was just thinking the same thing haha 😄
Your reading of the coffeehouse widows' lamentations are hilarious. Great episode, Max Miller! You've been killing it lately. Haggis video was legendary.
And, what was being lamented made it seem like you should call them "coffee" houses.
Lmfao
You combine 2 of my most favorite things!! Food and history. I was going to be a history teacher but I decided I was too meek and mild to deal with high school students so I became a nurse.
Both jobs are pretty tough!
@Tasting History with Max Miller I rather get punched in the face by a combative patient than deal with high school drama again.
@@crimsondreams7382 That's fair. High school was hell.
You chose between two admirable professions. "Meek and mild" don't properly describe someone with your character!
Couldn't you have just specialized in teaching history to another age group instead?
There are LOTS of coffee substitutes, many of them used by early immigrants to the western US, some of them originally created by native people here long before coffee arrived. They would make a fascinating Drinking History episode! My favorite is roasted dandelion root (as tea or powdered, I prefer it powdered). The taste is earthy but not bitter, and so rich. It's also an excellent source of iron, so unfortunately I have to limit my intake as I have naturally too-high iron (the only disease for which blood-letting is STILL about the only treatment)!
Really!?
@@susanamariapereirasoares7188 if you are referring to the hemochromatosis, then yup. They regularly drain people to keep the condition under control.
Well that sounds like a very interesting way to up my iron intake!
@Caspen Black, do you often donate your blood? I think it could be a way to have your dandelion root without consequences & also help people who need it.
@@bsteven885 Wouldn't work. People with hemochromatosis don't have _more_ blood than the average person, just more iron per blood volume. So they still need to wait the same amount of time between blood drawings. And excessive iron can cause liver damage, among other things.
the reason for coffee becoming even more popular than it was before under Murad IV may have been that his ban on alcohol had caused people to change their social beverage of choice to coffee, a stimulant, rather than the depressant alcohol. Something to a similar effect may also be observed in popularity of coffee in today's Turkey where the extent of indirect taxation on alcoholic beverages has practically rendered alcohol-centered socialization something of a luxury.
The industrial revolution lines up perfectly with the rise of the popularity of coffee
I think this is the first alcohol ad read I've seen where it's actually mentioned that alcohol can't be shipped to every state. As someone who lives in a state where you can't get alcohol delivered I appreciate this as maybe an increased awareness of the issue could garner more support to change it.
My own family learned this when my mother tried mailing some bottles to my uncle. Fittingly enough for this video, the drink in question was coffee brandy.
If you live in a dry state, move, now!!
There still is dry states, mainly in the south and some western states
@@billh.1940 It's not just dry states. There are some states where beer and wine can be sold anywhere but hard liquor must be sold only in state-run liquor stores. Those are the states where you typically can't have liquor delivered directly to you.
Depends, I live in a control state and have received liquor via shipping.
babe wake up Max is gonna teach us about coffee
This drink is similar to a traditional Chilean cocktail called "vaina," which adds cacao liqueur, cinnamon and ice, but it uses the yolk only.
(Vaina is a word with multiple meanings in Spanish. In some parts of Latin America it means a problem, a mess, a kind of situation. In Chile it means the sheath of a sword, the pod in which beans grow, or the drink.)
I like the sound of that! Hopefully I'll find a recipe for it
I love this. One for history, two for cocktails, and 3 Sprigagito in the back round! Aaaaaah. I love the history here and how deep you go into everything. Also the cutaway with just "egg" as you drop the egg white if perfect.
Thank you 😊
@@TastingHistory I'm about to deep dive these videos. If you haven't had one already I'd love to see a video of yours of the American Whiskey rebellion and the various rebellions to happen because of taxes and laws that changed whiskey. A perfect example would be why Irish whiskey is made with non malted barley compared to traditional scotch with malted barley
The amount of work put into the research, recipes, and production is incredible. I’m so glad I clicked on your Garum episode because this channel is one of my favorites.
"He had me at garum" too!
Back in highschool I learned an old fashioned German song about how bad coffee is, it goes: C-A-F-F-E-E don't drink so much coffee, not for children is the Turkish brew, weakens nerves and makes you pale and ill. I'm just glad we had no song about how healthy smoking is.
Obviously you weren't around for the cigarette commercials or you would remember the jingle that went "Winston taste good like a cigarette should, ..
I learned that song in elementary school, but I hope nobody sings it nowadays, because the last line: “Don’t be a Mussulman, that can’t can’t help but drink it” is pretty racist.
@@marmotarchivist I didn't even remember that 😲
Anyway, good luck with archiving those marmots...
@@mimichapman6210 I wasn’t around for that, but I know it from watching old black and white episodes of “The Beverly Hillbillies” on Prime. 😂
@@marmotarchivist oh no a 200 year old song uses outdated language and
*shuffles deck*
Calls turkish people (because back then, muslims mostly stemmed from the ottoman empire, hence also the term "muselmann", muslim + ottoman) coffe drinkers
Funny how your description at the beginning of the video also fits on video games. History really just repeats itself over and over again
Baptize the coffee? We’ll, that brings new meaning to liking my coffee darker than my soul.
It's a funny story for us Catholics. XD
Honestly, some coffee in your bath will give you a caffeine boost and you can use the grounds as an exfoliating scrub. Smells good, no excessive acid in your gut, and gives you a slightly darker tone /false tan 😸
@@RazorO2Productionsreligion is a joke 😂
Baptism is a very specific sacrament that is only meant for human beings. I'm sure if something like that happened it was the Pope blessing the coffee with holy water.
I’m all-in for alliteration and “clearly, the libidinous ladies of London were laid low by the lust-lessening latte” said with a straight face gave me to guffaw! Such a great channel. Would love to have you on my radio show, Max.
Didn't know coffee has such a wild history behind it. You're giving my next coffee date stuff to talk about.
Good luck 😁
Anything that men enjoy/enjoyed has a pretty wild history. First it was coffee, then it was alcohol. Now, it's firearms. The largest amount of votes in favor of taking them away is from women. Same as it was for coffee and alcohol.
@@smithsmith1956 uhhh
@@kaitlyn__L Feel free to look it up. Women we're the ones complaining about their men drinking coffee and alcohol too much. The female vote is what tipped the scale to allow prohibition to get passed. Now we have a bunch of stay at home moms (mothers of America) complaining about guns. They were actually the group that bullied my old highschool to stop and get rid of our rifle team and guns. We legitimately had an armory on campus with the school's .22 competition rifles.
Women are almost 54% of the total US population. Studies and surveys show almost all active female voters are in favor of taking guns away. And I don't want to hear any ad hominems. If your just going to throw "iNcEl" or "mIsOGynIst" at me, just don't.
@@smithsmith1956 I was honestly still processing how you were inferring women just basically don’t want men to have fun, but now you’ve practically said it directly without even needing my inference!
I’d probably look at it through a less one-dimensional lens, ie I wouldn’t be surprised if it is specifically married middle-class white women who voted for prohibition and just had an outsized influence on the overall vote due to various disenfranchisement reasons.
I mean, I think alcohol prohibition was nonsense and hurt far more than it helped, and I think the same about modern eg pot prohibition. I’d hope that was kind of obvious but I’m saying it just in case lmao
Anyway, do you have any, let’s say, preferred policy proposals in response to the situation you’ve laid out? Or is it just something you enjoy complaining about? (And I don’t mean that as an insult, everyone has things they like to bellyache about…)
"Cuz he was dead" is my favourite quote so far from Tasting History. Tied with the Hardtack clip. Love your work, Max, keep it up! :D
I'd love to see you do an episode exploring the history and origins of the Old Fashioned - it's my fave drink and I'd love to see your take on it.
If you want to be extra safe with the eggs, and you have a sous vide, you can pasteurized them. Most instructions I’ve found say 75 minutes at 135*F. I do recommend placing them in a bag first as the eggs tend to take on water (and develop very runny whites) if you put them directly in the pot. Also works for cookie dough (but microwave the flour first to sterilize it as well)
I don't worry about Raw Egg myself. In fact every year throughout December I make homemade Eggnog and it uses Raw Eggs:)
If you see how they get processed you would see how unlikely it is. It also matters how much is in there, so really it's only dangerous if you left some eggs lying around a long time, especially at room temp AND they were infected.
@@morrigankasa570 right? Straight from the chickens butt to my drink. 😂
Or, of course, you can just buy pasteurized eggs, either in the shell or in cartons.
@@imnotliketheothernerds You of course Rinse the Eggshells first before cracking them and make sure they are undamaged as well as make sure the seller inspected/candled them.
I am going to have to show this to my brother, an avid coffee drinker (I prefer tea myself). That whole puddle water thing was so beautifully read! :D
I loved this so much and laughed out loud at you alliterative turn of phrase. So much fun. Thank you!
Thank you. Glad to see it appreciated 😁
That superb alliteration had us swooning! I agree with the description of coffee at the beginning. Definitely we prefer hot tea or cocoa.
Love this series and enjoyed recreating the Hemingway or also called Death in the Afternoon. And I immediately thought of Dana Carvey as The Church Lady saying "it could be Satan" when speaking of coffee being banned by the church.
I decided to watch your episode on 1.5x speed, just after you had your sips of the "coffee" drinks. It gave an extra sensation you were enjoying your "coffee" with your history.
it may sound weird but i find it rather nice.. 1 part merlot, 1 part coffee..
the acidity/ sweetness of the wine cuts through the coffees bitterness and the bitterness of the coffee cuts the sweetness of the wine..
it has a sweet start and a smooth finish and tastes like chocolate covered grapes..
some people have said they really like it and others have said im insane but give it a try and see for yourself..
"Grate a little nutmeg on top before serving"
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All I want for Christmas is a crossover episode with Max and James Hoffman
I'm rooting for this so much
God no. He waffles on so much it irritates me. Matt Best would be a much more entertaining crossover.
Hames Joffman might be a better choice tbh.
@@keithklassen5320 Perhaps Hames Joffman should team up with Max Miller... wait, that name can't be spoonerized.
Or Morgan from Morgan Drinks Coffee
If someone in my household tried to ban coffee, there would be an upheaval so fast lol
If you want coffee without the bitterness, I wholeheartedly recommend Ethiopian single-origin beans. Latin American beans in particular are quite bitter, whereas Ethiopian beans are fruity, floral, and are a wholly separate thing from the kind of coffee you're used to drinking.
Just my opinion to my personal taste buds here: Ethiopian beans tend to be more acidic, great for getting an ulcer, but not necessarily less bitter. Most people can't taste both at once so Ethiopian beans taste less bitter to most people, but that technically is not the case.
A proper high end bean has a reduction in bitter and acid. This flavor profile makes a sweeter roast, subtle in flavor but if you make a latte or add milk it will make the milk taste sweeter than it would otherwise. There are two directions one can go in the flavor profile, fruity and chocolaty. Fruity is possible with more acidic and cheaper beans, chocolate and nutty flavored beans require low bitter and low acid.
@@Danielle_1234 Actually brewing method makes a big difference in acidity and bitterness, likely moreso than bean origin or quality. A very consistent grind from a burr grinder, hot brew temp, and proper bloom will reduce both acidity and bitterness as well as accentuate the regional flavors. Acidity is seen as a plus among the ultra coffee nerds
@@Danielle_1234 But bitterness is a taste. How is a thing "technically" bitter (or more bitter) if it doesnt taste bitter?
@@helmholtzthemulewatson4763
It contains compounds that generally taste bitter. It’s like how you can add sugar to something sour to make it less sour without removing any acidity.
I stopped buying Ethiopian coffee since it's the country's highest-taxed export and all of that money was going towards the decimation of the people in Tigray. Hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, and there is widespread famine in the region and surrounding areas. They finally called a truce exactly 2 years to the date the conflict started. If it lasts I'll gladly start buying again, because you're right single-origin beans are bright, and making Buna in a Jebna calls for just the right beans
A warning for the dry shaking step, if you’re using a Boston shaker make sure you get it really good and sealed. Usually the ice helps to lock the tins together but without it you’re more likely to end up with a mess. Also if you have a Hawthorne strainer, you can throw the spring in for the dry shake and it’ll froth up even more.
This was very pleasant to listen to while I had my breakfast with my cup of coffee in the morning! Don't know if it was intentional, but you had great timing with the upload, since most people would have their caffeine kick early in the day.
That pamphlet is singlehandedly the reason the alleged moral panic around coffee is my favorite alleged moral panic.
Though one thing to note is that Murad IV's coffee ban and Charles II's attempted coffee house ban may have had the similar reasons. Murad's ban came alongside a wide variety of similar bans that targeted social gatherings specifically in the capital, including coffee and alcohol, alongside a curfew that all combined to make it somewhat harder to assemble outside of work without drawing royal attention.
Having spent much of his teenage years as a puppet ruler for his mother and the courtiers backing her, it's believed Murad may have been a tad paranoid about the plotting going on in the capital once he grew older and wrested control back from them.
I love that the foam is stout enough to hold coffee beans up!!!
This has to be my favorite episode of yours that I've seen. The period descriptions of coffee's alleged effects were wonderful and so, so funny. I have no doubt I'll be watching this video more than once. Thanks!
I actually read that on micro-fiche back in the day. Absolutely hilarious and almost certainly not penned by women. Actually a discourse on both capitalism and gender roles.
8:10 That was quite the alliteration.
Historical illegal oddities are always interesting to learn about. Absinthe, coffee, meat, alcohol... all fun topics.
What's the first thing people do when the government tells them they can't consume something?
@@Gr3nadgr3gory most stop. And bans usually last long enough to change the consumption culture surrounding it. All for the better as far as I can tell. At least personally haven't heard of any serious ill affects being caused by such.
@@MrEmiosk you've NEVER studied American history at all have you? Specifically regarding the prohibition. Even this example shows people avoiding a ban.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory seems someone else needs to read and understand history, and not just american history. No the prohibition wasn't as big and as bad as implied in tv documentaries or books brushing past the subject. The prohibition led to a drinking culture that stopped binge drinking and overall decreased the avarage alcohol consumtion level to such a degree, that if I'd be drinking like the average man did before the prohibition, then I'd be considered a wastrel incabable of work because I'd be perpetually drunk. Before prohobition half of your daily food nourishment came from beer.
My own country went through the same, monopoliced alcohol and brought to heel rampant overconsumption.
Yes it brought smuggling, boot liquor etc. But it is only a overemphasised footnote of what happened, and the end results being far better than before.
Open a fucking book first before assuming things.
@@MrEmiosk most substance bans, especially early on, were based on discrimination. Either to discriminate against non-Christians, non white, or non masculine peoples. The bans would often incarcerate unfairly and repress people from being themselves, to the point that we have lost so many cultures in time that it’s near impossible to understand the history of entire regions. It’s quite convoluted so I urge you to look into things more, and weigh the perspective of the author. Seek the voice of the repressed.
It's possible to buy pasteurized whole eggs. I was a chef in a nursing home that bought these for the more fragile residents. Although we cooked them, the pasteurized whole eggs would work for a recipe where you're using raw eggs.
Hey Max, you can buy pasteurized eggs. So for recipes that require raw eggs if you are concerned about illness of any kind you have an option and besides looking a little cloudy they're identical to regular raw eggs and you won't notice a difference.
beings evolved to consume rae meat and eggs....only storage and improper conditions prior are to blame
@@fortheloveofnoise and technology moves on. Look you're on a computer or smartphone. Don't be such a luddite. It's just a level of protection if there is concern. You don't have to be a jerk about it. Man you are touchy.
I am just mentioning that the choice is out there. If you want to eat unpasteurized raw eggs or whatever go ahead that's your choice. No guardrails on life, have at it snowflake. You can do it your way and good luck to you. But just remember the world doesn't revolve around you. If you don't like it, tough.
And their comment is shadowbanned so now it just looks like I am arguing with myself. I hate it when nasty people are censored. Look it's important to push back against people like that. TH-cam or whoever did that is taking away a learning opportunity for anyone who happens across this.
The person said that humans evolved to eat raw food. That's partly true but also kinda false. We are the product of humans cooking food and increasing survival by doing so. Also some people have medical concerns that are important.
But it's important to note that there was no reason why they had to be upset by my pointing out the existence of pasteurized eggs. Really if they don't like them then they don't have to buy them. See how easy that is?
The person's need to push back is noteworthy. And the person has earned the response with some scorn. Hopefully they will learn that they are not the only important person in the world. Actually it is fair to say that they aren't important at all and their opinion could have been kept to themselves and they would have followed the old adage "It's better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubts." So if you can't bring something constructive to the conversation then stay out of it.
But I don't like that they were silenced because I think it's important to push back at these people. These buttinskis who butt in to every conversation because they just want to impose their weak will on others.
Look if you disagree with pushing back then don't. Leave that task to people like me who have had enough of these people and aren't shy or afraid to say something.
The person who responded to me was just being a troll and I believe that they deserve the light of day. I also think that they deserve to be pushed back against even if it starts an argument. Leaving them to obscurity is helping them in a way and hampers discourse.
I think their ignorant and ill informed argument should not be shadowbanned and preserved for posterity. I think that there needs to be record of their ludicrous behavior so that future generations can marvel at their ignorance and desire to foist themselves into a conversation that they have no business in. And future generations of their line can feel the sting of shame for being related to these kinds of people.
So please release them from the shadows and unban their thoughtless comment for I am not done ridiculing them and they have this coming. They earned it and the bill has come due. Now let me at them and allow them to respond so that I may be nourished by their tears and the lamentations of their women. Too much?
Just remember that for every troll there are also troll hunters. The hunt is good here. Let them loose so they can lose. They brought it upon themselves.
It's quite rare to get illness from raw eggs, especially if they're farm fresh, like roadside egg stands up here in New England, and washed. The scare about raw egg and raw beef seems to strictly be a north American thing, as these things are consumed in Europe quite often. I think many of the salmonella scares were mostly due to the unclean cramped environment from factory farming, eggs are from sick and overcrowded animals that contract salmonella and spread it to their eggs. 30 fatalities per year from salmonella by different sources, not eggs alone, which sounds like a lot but for context 40 people are attacked by bears per year in the US so you have a greater chance of being attacked by a bear than contracting a deadly case of salmonella from any source.
With that being said, anyone concerned about it should know about pasteurized eggs if they want to feel safer! It's not worth the anxiety for some.
@@MermaidMakes you're absolutely right but also people constantly talk about the risks of consuming raw eggs so it's good to have a product available so those who are paranoid can enjoy a raw egg every now and then.
The Prussian King Frederick the Great had banned the private roasting of coffee and to enforce the ban hired people who could recognize coffee by its smell, who were called "Kaffeschnüfler"
I love this history of coffee! I learned so much~ Though I already knew about the Dead Pope Trial from Caitlin Doughty & the ban from Charles II from the Restoration episode of Supersizers. I didn't know about that pamphlet or that it was banned more than once, though. Thank you for such an excellent episode! ❤
You can actually use water from boiled chickpeas instead of eggwhites if you are afraid of getting sick or if you just dont eat egg.
This is called aquafaba, havent yet done any egg cocktails tho
That was some impressive and funny alliteration! "The lubidinous ladies of London were laid low by the lust-lessening latte." I paused just so I could write it down! xD
"Randy Ladies of London" sounds like a great burlesque act!
MAX HAS INADVERTENTLY MADE EGGNOG.
Again
Nope. It actually has more in common with the historical alcoholic drink category of the flip.
@@julietsmith5925 Nerd
@@mustyfan1584 And proud of it!
@@julietsmith5925 Hehe I’m just messing around, that’s a cool fact!
Spotted Sprigatito! Hope you have a wonderful holiday season and if you’re playing Violet/Scarlet happy Pokémon playing.
I agree with the description at the beginning. I like tea, hot chocolate, and cider. Also i would love to see a collab between you and How to Drink on some old cocktails
The problem isn’t whether or not I hate it. It’s whether or not I like it. Essentially, “I don’t hate it” sums it up. Look forward to trying more of these concoctions, food and beverage-wise.
Please make a video on the history of lemon posset
This video was uploaded the instant I sat down with my cup of coffee
as a practicing, traditional Catholic I always wonder who wrote those kinds of stories down and cringe at some of the oddities that could have happened. In other news...Max's smile as he drinks that is so freakin adorable.
It was coffee loving Protestants likely
Murad IV was a drunkard but banned coffee because Quran forbids intoxicants. Real reason seemed to be that he thought coffee houses were places to brew rebellion(since people spoke politics rather than drunken grind).
Rex Stout, ‘30s author of the wonderful Nero Wolfe mystery series, put out an extraordinary cookbook. One of my favorite recipes is buttery scrambled eggs cooked with a bit of cognac. Highly recommend and highly recommend the entire book.
That first cocktail was delicious by the way. I happened to have all the ingredients so I just tried it. I'll be making it on the regular now.
I laughed through this one. Your alliteration with the latte had me in stitches. Do it again!
I was in school Monday thru Thursday this week and have my Friday morning free and what a pleasant surprise it is to have a new tasting history episode to watch while making breakfast! Have a good morning Max!
My apologies, Drinking History!
I swear your voice is so buttery you could read a bad story and make it amazing.
Oh that’s so cool, thanks Max I love this one. I’m such a coffee fanatic
In the Philippines, we also have a coffee substitute where we instead use rice roasted to dark brown instead of coffee beans.
"Nasty, stinking, bitter puddle water" might be the most accurate description of coffee I've ever heard.
1:30 if you are super, super paranoid about raw eggs, or you need to bake cookies with other people's kids and need to be super cautious, you can use a sous vide machine to pasteurize raw eggs.
No one is taking my coffee away. I will go down in history for my coffee, if you know what I mean!
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
I'm not day drinking, I'm having an iced coffee....yeah, that's it.😉
thank you for all the great videos! point of contention: at min 06:22, when you talk about coffe coming to england, the painting is of the first VIENNESE coffee house, "zu der Blauen Flaschen".
In Sweden, coffee was taxed heavily from the 1740s, and banned five separate times during the 18th and early 19th centuries.
King Gustav III of Sweden (r. 1771-1792) was very concerned about the dangers of coffee consumption, and initiated what is sometimes considered the first clinical trial in history: he found a pair of identical twins who had been condemned to death; in return for commuting their sentences to life imprisonment, one of them had to drink several pots of coffee each day, and the other a comparable amount of tea. The idea was to see which one lived longest. Of course, the experiment was a bust; the king died long before the twins, and the doctors set to monitor the experiment were also dead by the time the king passed away.
"I'm no longer in the mood to have sex with you now that I'm sober"
Lady, I don't think the issue there is the coffee.
The ingredients for this cocktail sound almost like an eggnog, but without the milk, and perhaps with a larger amount of "adult beverages" included.
It actually has more in common with the flip, a historical category of cocktails involving a spirit, sweetener, and a whole egg.
max you are the only channel with alcohol front and center that i can watch after getting sober, have seen every one
Love your vids. Ojala hagas uno de café de olla
Your skills of alliteration are magnificent!
Is there enough material to look into the history of milk tea in Hong Kong (the weird mixed tea / coffee drink)?
I’ll have to add it to my research list.
@@TastingHistory Maybe contact Jesse's Teahouse and see what he knows.
Funny you'd mention that drink - just had my cozy cup of _kopi cham_ (as it's known in Malaysia) a while ago!
@@TastingHistory I suggest looking up/contacting Lucas Sin. He's done many videos over various channels talking about Hong food and cuisine. I bet he would be a great guest star!
Cofftea is real? All this time I thought “milk tea” was just tea with milk in!
Thanks Max! As a coffee roaster that was so entertaining.
I had to chuckle as there is a roaster/cafe in Melbourne called Vertue Coffee Roasters named for the pamphlet you quoted from.
Good morning from Utah. Huge fan of your work! ❤️
Morning! Love Utah! One of the most beautiful states.
I tend to agree. 😏
loved this episode and yeah, some historical religious figures can do crazy things, corpse pope trial being one of them, the youtuber Caitlin Doughty (Ask a Mortician) did a fantastic video on that trial if anyone wants to learn more :)
So coffee was "drinking bitter puddle water"?
Well, a guest at Thomas Jefferson's table once scoffed at the tomato served there as "this sour trash."
I guess new foods take a while to grow on people
The ignorance in the past blows me away. A drink comes along that doesn't lay anyone low, that stimulates thought and action, and people lose their minds.
Now that I think about it, that kind of ignorance is still prevalent.
I grew up on a farm. Fresh unwashed eggs do not need to be refrigerated for several weeks. Always refrigerate washed eggs (store bought). Eggs will maintain a higher quality when stored in the refrigerator - washed or not. However, unwashed fresh eggs will keep the best. I still purchase mine fresh and they never get refrigerated. It's only necessary once they've been washed because their protective coating "cuticle" has been washed off.
The history of illegal coffee is wild! Well done Max 🙌
Thank you for the history lesson and the recipes.
You should consider having Atun-Shei Films read some of these Early Modern English notes in original pronunciation. I found myself rereading them and it really popped in that old dialect!
But a great episode. :D
When I was in the military I had the chance to drink coffee in England, Turkey, and Germany. The best coffee I have ever tasted was in the U.K., it has a frothy oil floating on the top, I was told it was because they don't wash the oils off of the coffee beans. I dunno if that's true, but I could not drink coffee when I came back to the U.S. because I thought is was so weak and tasteless. Fortunately there are mail order coffee companies with coffee superior to "store bought".
I don’t know if American pre ground somehow removes it, but that’s usually down to using a paper filter (absorbs some oils) versus a mesh filter. So perhaps the popularity of cafetières (French presses) here explains it. But you can get the same effect from an American drip machine with a mesh filter.
Again can’t speak for American pre ground, but British pre ground certainly doesn’t remove anything. Maybe you’d need to grind your own beans.
I am extremely skeptical that the "petition on behalf of ladies" was actually written by any ladies.
*Edit:* Obviously I had not finished the video when I posted this, how nice of Max to prove me right so quickly afterward! xD
I had the exact same thought lol. I was like, "No way this wasn't written by a dude." Lord knows I've read enough badly written women, by men, to recognize it almost immediately - and whaddya know! But very much enjoyed Max's reading lol
I was side-eyeing that with the first words and then they started rolling the longer it went on. When it got to the "talkativeness" I just went "Okay unknown writer dude, that's enough."
I get that impression with a number of petitions on behalf of someone even today.
It was clearly an Onion article of the time.
@@Sarlat7 the comment about being undisputed champions at talkativeness made me go yikes, but I had believed it was just ingrained automisogyny. Was relieved when he said it was just a guy 😅
Max, you are in rare form in this episode. Your acting (or should I say, ACTING!!!!) of the various primary sources was hilarious.
Being the coffee fanatic I am, banning coffee would force me to criminal acts to feed the addiction! ☕ ☕ ☕
Ha! Agree wholeheartedly. I'd be in the cell next to you...☕
I would like to say the same but without my coffe I would be to lazy to do anything about it lmao
I would definitely sneak into a coffee speakeasy to get my coffee fix lol
My GI doctor tried to get me off coffee because I was having acid reflux. Best I could manage was switching to decaf - I didn't last 24 hours. It's definitely an addiction
If any government banned coffee and tea I think they would find themselves in a cell rather than the people. Would be the fastest speed run to full blown revolution in history
Huh, it seems every time a substance becomes popular with a group of people that have revolutionary ideas, it becomes illegal.
Such strange coincidence. ;)
I am here for the history as I can't stand the actual taste of coffee and I stay away from alcohol - family history proves this a necessity.
yep, family history of alcoholism is a very good reason to avoid alcohol that not many people appreciate
Same here about the alcohol. Alcoholism runs in my family, so I abstain from drinking it entirely. It's been fun looking up how to make mocktails in place of cocktails. I do like coffee, but it's nice to have a variety of different drinks to make.
The Coffee Cocktail is essentially a Flip, and the yoke is what’s adding the creamy texture to the drink. Also to avoid the chance of catching anything bad from consuming raw eggs make sure to use fresh Eggs in your cocktails.
Seventeenth century women angry that men found another way to destress hanging out with the bros instead of sex 💀
Fun Egg Fact! The egg becomes cooked when you mix it with all the booze. The Alcohol denatures the proteins and kills bacteria the exact same way heat does. This is the same principal that makes eggnog safe to drink, even after its left to age for weeks. You can also see this happen first hand by cracking an egg in Everclear (or other pure alcohol 'drink')
My funny coffee story was when I was pregnant with my last kid. We were potty training a great dane puppy and I couldn't tell the smell from an accident or the coffee my husband made at 3 am to go to work. Fortunately he was trained quickly. He would also wake me up when my blood sugar dropped at night. He lived nine blessed years! I want another, but they are heartbreaking when they pass so young. 6 is average, but thirteen can happen. We have a great Pyranees now, and while he's a good dog, they listen like a brick. Treats are motivation but even then, you have to walk out and get them sometimes. When my dane got out, he was so guilty. But the chihuahua would jump into my arms and I would walk him back. It didn't happen often thank God! He was a nice dog but didn't like other males. The GP just keeps visitors in there car until I go get them, which is what we want.