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I Can't Believe a Company Actually Did This
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ย. 2023
- I didn't think a company would be foolish enough to actually put this in a camera, but here we are.
Insta360 Ace Pro pushes super unnecessary 8k on us in a tiny sensor. Gimmick A.I features, surpassing neither DJI Action 4 or Gopro 12 in any spec. The Camera industry has halted innovation. Though I could have fun with those AI features :)
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Nice review bro. I'm convinced the Action 4 is one of the best action cameras out there been using it for the last 4 months and love it. I always hated the look of gopro footage and the bugs and overheating. I only trust your reviews when it comes to cameras because most of these reviewers are fake and paid off by the big companies keep going bro you will rise above them eventually. Just be true to yourself and don't sell out.
I can always count on you to talk me out of spending money. For that reason alone, my wife says you are the best content creator ever.
On point why no companies support, maybe Casey is a defluencer if the word even exists.
He saves our money 😊🎉
Even the wives approve, that's how you know it's good content!
LOL!
Totally true. I was locked and loaded.......
It sucks that they never send you anything on release. You're the only channel I want to watch when something gets released.
I only trust reviews from creators who don’t get the camera on launch day. You and Vu.
Wise move. Launch day reviews are all 100% exactly the same spec sheet readouts.
Good to see my name here 👍🤝🙏
It would be AMAZING if Kasey and Vu do a COLLAB!
Vu to do his fishing and Kasey to film the birds around.
The grumpiness would be at an all time high!
And I am here for it!
I watched the 'review' by The Tech Guy and I put a comment underneath that said it was like watching him flogging the camera on the shopping channel!
Vu! 😮
You need to go the Shill School, and get your Shill Diploma...then you will get included in product releases.
It's no fun seeing him get the NDA launch day treatment
Action 4 actually shares the same sensor as the Ace Pro, which is the ov48c. Like every flagship phone these days, in 4k recording, they use pixel-binding which basically makes it a 12mp sensor. But Ace Pro can also utilize the hi-res mode in 8k, photo, and zoom mod.
I could watch you review anything and everything - cameras, fridges, cars - I would watch it all 😅 honestly your channel is the best thing on TH-cam 💕
He's a great guy IRL too, my car broke down driving through Canada and he let me crash in his quest house till it got fixed on the condition he was able to keep a camera running in every room while I was there
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I prefer it that you're honest about design flaws, rather than doing fluff pieces on release.
No way you beat that dude in a tennis match.
Love your channel reviews man. It's funny but makes sense too. Continue the great work. From 🇨🇵
You have to sell your soul to get an Insta360 camera early. Jeven Dovey actually said in his review of the Insta360 go because the storage was limited and built in that you should buy 2 of them. It was pathetic.
I think i'll wait for the 12K version
Thank you! 5:43 that's all I could see, while the other reviewers gushed about Leica, Leica, Leica...
You are trusted in some camera communities. I believe Panasonic sent you one before and included a horse trailer, which means they watch you.
Yep, you can lower the sharpness on it. Insta360 actually isn't pushing the 8K capabilities, one because they understand that more pixels doesn't automatically equal a better picture (they actually told me this), but also because it really serves two main purposes. The first is oversampled 4K for the normal image, and then a true 4K image when using the optical zoom (because it's cropping in on an 8K sensor). With the sharpness set to low, the Ace Pro actually looks silky smooth. The magnetic mount has a 1/4" mounting point on it, so no need for one on the actual camera body. You can get all the stuff you mentioned for less than you added it up to be by getting the Creator Edition.
Thats all nice but no 10-bit color,lens cant be changed,not so wide image,that screen will brake in time when opening and closing,ai is nice but didnt prove good in gopro.And does it overheat?Noone is talking about these things.And not to mention price compared to others lol
@@dopesneakermanace pro overheats at 4k 60 after 1hr 11min GoPro 12 4K 60 at 55min as per another Ace Pro Reviewer
@@thrillababyy so not that big difference but the price is at the moment double.not worth it.only if you film during night alot
@@dopesneakermancan we set colour profile on cooler side with go pro 12?
@@dopesneakerman Just received mine today and I’m returning it to the store in about in hour ..you need to have log profile or there is no point of it being called pro. It wasn’t made for pros..tried color grading flat color and it just wasn’t cutting it
Looks best in standard mode and pure video but again you can’t color grade it only lower colors that were already added..also the in camera sharpness is just too much even on low…didn’t think 10bit color was needed but I was wrong ..
Better luck next time Insta 🍀 I tried
I’m not sure if they give us full 8K resolution just because it is a 8K sensor. They are using it for pixel binning. I saw some lowlight footage and to be honest, it was way better than GoPro and DJI. What I absolutely don’t like about the Action 4 is the unnatural body shape. When vlogging everyone looking so small and unnatural. That’s better on the ACE pro and also on the GoPro. Anyway, I totally agree with the over sharpened look of every action camera.
I don’t always watch Camera conspiracies. But when I do it’s always with a big smile with spontaneous bursts of laughter 😂 keep it up 👍🏼
Nothing! Thats the answer! 😂😂😂 killed me 😂
The only person on TH-cam doing reviews proper.
I like how he reviews other people's reviews of things that they reviewing
Did I just watch a +13 minute commentary on the Insta360 AcePro that didn’t mention the flippy screen? How do you walk the streets with such iron-willed discipline?
As a guy that uses action cameras for action, Im so tired of action cameras trying to be vlogging cameras.
Same… how did these guys not get action cameras require replaceable lens covers.
Cameras can have multiple uses you know lol. Action cams are the closest thing we have to "designed for vlogging" cameras out there. Only the DJI Pocket series can actually claim this. No cameras are designed for vlogging, despite the marketing hype.
as I guy that uses action cameras for vlogging, I am so tired of people like you
@simoz78 wow, nice work turning a critique of cameras into an attack on people. Happy Thanksgiving.
@cameraconspiracies but yet almost every camera works fine for vlogging already...lol
You forgot the worse thing: its 8-bit only.
I was worried about this at first but then I thought, "Who's really doing serious color grading on an action cam.
Show me proof it suffering from 8-bit issues. lol
@@LumixGang Exactly!! As well it should be better if it was 10 bit but people who color grade their footage from action cam videos represent a tiny amount of people. And when they color grade, they don't care that the quality of their videos loose a bit.
I think the most iconic part of your videos is your music. I would love more details about it. It creates a wonderful atmosphere for your videos.
FYI, for the 8k on these small sensors, the image is generated from a process called remosaicing, and the benefit of that is the sensor is actually truly a 4k (4000x3000) sensor, and sampling the 12mp image gets you the most accurate data.
Quad beyer also allows you to 4x your max native iso by adding together the quad beyer subpixels (like the a7s3 does)
All of this processing is done within the sensor so it doesn't consume any serious processing power.
The 4k is not compromised in any way now that sensors are bsi, and the 8k while it isn't as good as native 8k could be, it's good enough that you can use it
And ofc as other comments mentioned you can crop in and get a remosaiced 4k image with 2x crop if you want
Are the tiny lenses on action cams even enough to resolve anything above 4k? When you turn sharpenning totally off on gopro it is shockingly soft, and i'm fairly sure it's the same case for all of these action cams, if you shoot in raw on your phone you'll also notice how soft these tiny lenses really are.
@@definingslawek4731 yup, just because the image is soft doesnt mean the information is totally gone,
its just less information than if it were sharper.
What is crazy though is how much resolution you can actually squeeze from the tiny lenses, almost all of the "200 megapixel" phones get sharper from the remosaiced 200 megapixel than the native 12 megapixel
the problem is the iso performance from using all of the tiny subpixels individually is really awful, but in good light? its still substantially better
0:52 - this is so true. And it was so obvious that the "reviews" were heavily biased and told what to say to a script, and deviation from that script was punishable by death.
If you have a GoPro 11/12 or Action 4, I don’t see a reason to switch. If you don’t, and this is your first action cam, go for it. There are a lot of exciting features that sets it apart and the low light capability is undeniable. I ordered one mainly as a car mount and for shooting Timelapse’s. Another feature that none of the reviewers even touched upon. Also didn’t hear anything about powering it over usb without battery.
WHY IS THERE A MEXICAN HAT ON YOUR WINDCHIRL
You did not mention or dis the flip out screen on the Ace Pro 🤣🤣
The Jerry Seinfeld of camera reviews. "What's the deal with...?" Love it!
dude is roasting these camera companies in his outdoor podcast. 🤣
Have you found the perfect camera yet? Lol
Oh, I was waiting for this video
😂 🎉 regards!
I agree with the unnecessary megapixel count, but the low light footage looks incredible versus the others, even though the DJI has a sensor of the same size. Dynamic range is miles ahead on the Insta 360.
It doesn't work above 30 fps though.
@@cameraconspiracies only losers films over 30 fps
@@cameraconspiracies true. Does that mean a new Cripple Hammer has surfaced: the 360 Cripple Hammer?
Canada looking real hot and sweaty in 5500k. It looks like Mexican monsoon summer there right now.
lol you're a legend dude the flip up screen is actually legit for follow cam stuff and we shot some shots in their flat profile 🤙
that DJI Action 4 looks really nice with that filter on...
You can't believe someone made an 8K cam to record 8K video for our 8K TV/Monitors/Screens? That surprised ya did it?😁
Cheers 🍻
7:49 Though I won't be getting one, I'm just glad that they kept swappable batteries for the thing. After the Go 3, I figured that Insta360 just gave up on batteries being replaceable.
How dumb are they to exclude manual sharpness and denoise settings..!!?
Companies are afraid of your REAL REVIEWS to send you anything.
I'm pretty sure it's cause you strained your poo on your other channel --- I'll never forget that faux pas 😂😂😂
I do find the lack of centre lines on your roads rather distracting.
If Kasey doesnt get a unit on launch, we already know it's going to suck, which is exactly why he didn't get one.
The good news is somebody mention it's pixel binning sensor! And the cropped zoom feature is the 4k without pixel binning using only the smaller pixel.
It's actually pretty cool, plus I saw some night footage it was literally day and night compared to GoPro
Digging your content so much, even when I don’t actually care about the product you’re reviewing, lol
The companies that see these reviews are like, "Is it good or bad?"
Camera Conspiracies, "The camera is Aladeen."
We value the truth and your unique commentary 😊, not paid puppets.
8:19 I don't know why you did this to your face but it worked I clicked the like button just because I know your putting in alot of time and effort recording and editing the content. ( I'm old so I won't use the term filming because your not useing film) I'll just use recording thanks for the info.
the only thing i took from all the launch 'reviews' was that the ace footage looked better in every single comparison vs the DJI, and WAY better than the gopro.
don't even care about the 8k at all
I love this lighting and what seems like mist in the air.
Subscribed because of that Ulanzi video. Glad I did. Because I was going to get that camera, now I won’t.
I'm happily using my GoPro Hero10, most of the time with Max Lens Mod, and the only two things I hate about it are its low light capabilities (basically unusable in the woods) and its stupid and slow menu. - Do you see any alternatives for me at the moment? Btw. I won't lie, I was impressed by the PureVideo mode of Insta360, however AI generally tend to make stuff up - would be interesting to look at the footage more closely.
I've been very happy with my gopro10. I use it for bike packing. It's amazingly smooth going over bumpy ground, looks great when the sun is out, it'scaptured sone amazingscenes and is good for talking to camera. Rugged and durable. But the low light footage is bearly usable. I've just brought a Sony zv1 which should make a nice supplement to my gear and can handle low light levels.
They are pixel binning the 8k for the 4k
you are funny maan! though, i don't do photography, i watch your viedos for your sense of humor.
keep it up bro 🤜🤛
I came here for the lack of Squarespace sponsorship.
I still like the GoPro look better
"AI" stuff reminds me "HD", "4K" or "USB" era. 99% of the time it was a lie.
Still waiting for a "flat earth camera".
I think people are too sedentary to benefit from another action camera. What humanity needs are more macro lenses.
How many cameras do you think you can attach to yourself before you start to alarm the neighbors? lol
I LOVE THAT YOU ARE THE OUTKAST..... THIS WAY YOU GIVE THE HONEST REVIEWS..... AND IF THEY HATE THEN LET HATE, AND WATCH THE MONEY PILE UP.
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You god damn right. But i need one for my motobike helmet .Fortunately i have mouts from inst360x3 and I don't have to buy another one. I'm thinking already about producing in print 3d an lens ending to put some diopter glasses on it
Great video. Content and humor were great. And once again, your audio is terrific. Is your sweater in your affiliate links? Maybe sweater companies will send you pre-releases, since the camera industry won't, for your cold weather walks.
Please don't get hit by a bus 🤣
We know whats really going on in the big scary house. Maybe you can sneak in the house tonight and video the eyes wide shut ceremony.
Great review. I was thinking about the 8k being slightly better for action camming on my fishing channel so you could zoom in a bit but with the additional cost you are probably better off with a second camera and editing 8k sounds like a cpu punish
I trust you! I saw the red flags with it and I’m not even a camera nerd. It frustrates me in my niche too… I get offered overland gear, but refuse to make videos for them as bias is always created when you get a product early or for free.
This time he was wrong, though. It's pixel binning 4k.
Looks like you did t watch my video 😂 For the record, the Ace Pro’s sensor is the EXACT same sensor as the DJI. It’s pixel-binned 4K with the option of 8k if you want. No line-skipping.
Insta also did a 1” sensor with the OneRS.
Im on my second dji osmo and im blown away by what ive saw of the 360 ace pro
Ok, here's my theory. The Ace Pro isn't done, but they didn't want to miss the holiday season and decided to ship it. They didn't want anyone really testing it, so they sent it to a bunch of TH-camr's who would play ball and do a soft review. Maybe they can turn it into something with a bunch of firmware updates?
The lack of close focus you note in the camera... wouldn't that only get worse if you give it a 1 inch sensor and fixed aperture like you suggest as real changes it could make? Your latest video on the Pocket 3 mentions it might be "too blurry" sometimes... wouldn't the same issue exist in an action cam with a 1 inch sensor AND be worse because action cams are more often used for taking in the entire scene and recording everything in focus for action vs. the Pocket 3 which at least seems more fit to the use case of having a blurry background when vlogging?
If they continue to set the focus at infinity then obviously... I'm hoping for a camera DESIGNED for vlogging where we are actually in focus at arm's distance.
I'm anxiously awaiting the rant about the new Kodak Super35 film/hybrid camera. That should be entertaining.
wow, he's outdone himself (again) 👍
What about the Ace non-pro? I couldn't even find a single review about that.
Insta360 had a 1inch sensor action cam for half a decade
And I reviewed it, it was terrible. Out of focus, no stabilization unless you add it in post, unusable audio.
What’s the name of the backpack clamps you’re using for the phone and the GoPro?
www.ulanzi.com/products/falcam-f38-quick-rlease-backpack-strap-clip-2271?aff=595
Sell the 8K to the scooter kid(s).
You are way too technical for an auto mode person like me, but you are funny as hell. I do learn things from you like, I do not want a camera with the ability to have me holding a sword or tennis thing.
How come you did not have a hidden GoPro in the Insta360 board meeting when they decided all the wrong things they would give us?
The crazy part is that after 90 days you will only get the AI feature 3 times a day otherwise you will have to pay a subscription fee to use it
Subscription fees are a cancer for consumerism. I avoid it like the plague. If everything turns to a Subscription model I just won't buy stuff anymore.
The low light in the reviews for the Ace Pro looked great. Are you going to get it and review it? Pocket 3 too.
Those houses look really nice, but you can bet they have a heck of an HOA. Maybe that's why they don't wanna actually live there.
Why nobody is comparing the Ace with the previous One R 1 inch sensor? Seems everyone forgot they already released an action camera which was modular. Will bet that next year they will launch the Ace Pro 1 inch....
Idea for a video or video series: what camera has the best 1080p in 2023. I was shocked recently (and yeah, also got pretty pissy) when I compared 1080p from the FiLMiC Pro Legacy app in natural Gamma (on my 300$ used iPhone 12 Mini) compared to my ZV-1 and my Panasonic S5.
The S5 looks great, but so does FiLMiC Pro. ZV-1 looks like the video was filmed in 2006! I'm so freaking mad at this!
GoPro 12 got log update and new lut. I’m still not sure about it. It’s better than before.
Putting AI into anything, is like creating an app for everything. I'm a software-Engineer. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that people are so “simple” and “chilling” nowadays. You guys are remarkable. You accept the weirdest, unneeded and unnecessary crap the companies throw at you, inflating the price of a product artificially. Certainly, it makes me happy, and I'm not complaining because it creates more jobs for us in the It-Sector. But seriously, how many bitter red and blue pills do you guys intend to take? Why do I say this? Because as an engineer, I also have hobbies and I would rather not purchase products with an app and AI forced on me. Especially not in simple tools like a powerbank (Anker Prime) or a toothbrush etc.
Can I use the FALCAM F22 Quick Release Kit for Insta360 that I use with my Insta 360 X3?
Please do a show with Markus called Camera Roast where you bbq vegetables and rip on imperfect cameras
@@DavCro I would support that
It is not about the marketing or the Engineering, it is about the consumer. If the consumer had more knowledge and the time to learn, they could make better choices, thereby encouraging the marketing and engineering to step up.
I cant believe i watch you grumbling in a polite way while wondering around pointlessly all the way till the end! You have your points which i agree though, but i think the dji action 4 and acepro are using the same sensor ifnot mistaken, dji is using pixel binding for better image quality and not utilizing the 8k capability most probably due to limits of processor.
I clicked for the title and got a nice looking sweater presentation video
I have the GoPro 8, which imo is the first good version of image stabilization. I'm still trying to figure out which version to upgrade to, probably the 10 since it'll be even more affordable now.
10 or 11. Don’t they the 12. It’s the same thing as the 11 and they took out the gps.
Good to know. Thanks. What would you use gps for in a camera? @@ElProfeMoto
That guy was debating robbing you
Epic as always!
Kasey, what size close-up filter from your affiliate link? Help me achieve this my friend...
action cameras with their infinity focus and terrible low light yes even the 1 inch insta360, like you said stupid pixel size, are not vlogging cameras. They market them as vlogging cams, but they are action cams and they are absolutely amazing when I'm out surfing or ice kiteboarding. For vlogging, nope not even once.
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the 8k will probably yield better resolution when stabilisation cropped, but a narrower fov
What happens when a company does in fact make the perfect camera?
he has to retire and close the channel of course. but I'd wager he will continue to always find a flaw in every camera.