The answer will more likely be: it depends on your body type, but it is a good idea to rank how hard certain movements would be for certain body types. For example, weighted pull ups will be easier than front lever hold for tall people (or people without hypertrophied upper body). Another example is handstand push ups. All the weight is on top of you (almost a vertical line) so it’s not that much harder (if any) for taller people compared to other body types
Yes, this would be a video that I would like to make at some point in the future. However, I do want to make sure that I spend ample time on training the exercises that I am going to rank to avoid the "all theory, no practical experience" comments.
@@GeekClimber something I’m interested in with your front lever video is that with longer arms, won’t the rotational force on your shoulders be higher?
@@GeekClimber for me the ranking isnt really that wrong. the flag is much easier for you just because your short arms make it almost impossible to hold the full front lever. while for people with very long arms and good pulling strength, it may result more difficult to hold the flag than it is to hold the FL
@@miso5968 I'd still say the Flag rating is a tad too high, from my experience at least i see way more people being able to do Flags than Front Levers. Doing Flag on a straight pole does increase the difficulty a bit tho.
@@GeekClimber I find this quite surprising.. I can do a 6-7 second front lever, 12 second back lever, and got those skills relatively easier. I can’t do human flag though. Im thinking maybe I lack push strength from a handstand position (pushing directly by sides rather than in front) I can dip a lot of weight, do one arm pushes and pseudo planche push-ups easy enough but the human flag still eludes me!
As impressive as it looks, its way easier to learn than expected. Whenever I had attempted it I couldn't hold it even for a moment and almost even dislocated my shoulder once. One day I randomly watched a calimove video where they did a human flag and they were holding the bars near the edges, like you mentioned, and it instantly clicked in my mind. I tried it again the very next session and could hold it without ever having trained for it on both sides, just like you. Probably the next best motivation boost move one can master after the muscle up.
I guess I'm going to start trying the human flag. I used to be able to do full front lever year ago and my upper body has became stronger, so it should be possible.
@@aniscalisthenix7835 it's bc the fl use pull muscle and human flag use "push" muscles. it's not the same muscles that are engaged. shoulders are the most engaged muscles with the core
@Geek Climber I would love to see some videos talking about the math behind these calisthenics skills, especially if you are already calculating them for your own use. From your last video on the front lever I believe it sparked some great debate and it lead me to multiple conclusions I never would have come to otherwise. Perhaps your influence will help bring some truth to previously mystic aspects to calisthenics skills and the human body in general!
It looks like the interest in math and physics is high! Make sure to comment below what math and physics explanations you want to see. What I have in mind currently: 1. Does longer arms make the human flag harder? 2. Is placing arms as wide as possible easier for the human flag? Let me know what else you want to know.
It's crazy how much technique plays into calisthenics. I can do a full back lever thanks to my muscle memory from gymnastics, but I had no idea how to do a human flag, until now.
I am a calisthenics athlete and i have some skills in my back but never trained for the flag for some reason, after seeing this video i set out to try it , and in my next session I was able to hold the flag on both sides really focusing and using all my strength,
That was awesome 👏 congrats! This is the very first video I've seen of yours, but the combination of calisthenics and math seems right up my alley! I will definitely be checking out your videos. I hope you do end up making the video about the math involved in the human flag, because I'd definitely find that incredibly interesting 😀
bro you provide the most realistic approach to learning all these skills since you take us on your journey with you and compile all the "data" for us haha. Appreciate it alot!!!!
I would love to see a maths video on the difficulty of different calisthenics moves. I believe once the correct equations are established it should even be fairly simple to input different bodyweights/heights to see which exercises will be hardest to achieve for tall/short/bulky guy! Would be so interesting to see, and also really usefull for anyone going in to calisthenics knowing what to expect with their certain levers and weights!
What!!!!!! Amazing! You completely rocked it! I thought the human flag was way harder than the front lever and back lever! You just cranked it out (after some good thinking;)! I'll definitely try it! I love how you're taking the math inti consideration, do research and come up with the proper technique, I find it simultaneously hilarious, insightful and worthy of a lot of respect.
Woah. I thought i 2as sitting down for along compilation of fails and attempts, but you nailed it almost immediately. Don’t sleep on this guy, he’s crazy strong and not showing signs of slowing. 😁
First time i ever tried front lever was when i was at my peak bulk powerlifting :D The fluff was real and mass was abundant yet i pulled it off first time i tried. It has always been relatively easy for to do even without training it, it just clicks somehow. Tried human flags few time before and never got even close to one :D Good vid dude!
I had always considered the flag to be too difficult of a skill to try out - but now seeing you try it, even off of the Swedish ladders without any real issue, you’ve inspired me to try to learn the straight bar human flag in the near future as well. I’ve been able to do fronts and back levers for pretty long times for at least a year or so now, and have been working on the planche, but this seems like a good detour skill to pick up!
this comment is wild because I used to be able to hold a human flag for like 5-7 seconds, nothing nuts. Yet I have never been close on a front lever/back lever/planche. At the time my shoulder pushing strength was pretty good and pull up strength was adequate. I'm working back up on those things this year now that I have access to a gym again and addressed some injuries from other sports. Anyways I think you will be able to do it!
@@Itstime1231 Thanks! Yeah, I had always had it in my mind that the hand holding positions for the straight bar human flag were going to be very difficult and grindy on our bottom hand, as it didn't seem very intuitive physically (now I can understand it's more of a push pull to keep yourself up due to the supinated hand per this video). I think the other tips he mentioned on rotating out and keeping straighter will help a bunch too.
I've been training with a strength focus for the past month (weighted dips and pull ups) and some days ago I tried the starting position of the flag and it felt strong ! I can't hold it yet but as you say it definitely feels more achievable than the front lever 😁 even if more leverage is involved for me due to my size (1m87 😅) Very informative video thanks, especially the tips from Chris Heria, and calisthenics family, those are the little details that make the difference 💪
I liked that you claimed you did the underlying math on the vector forces involved in doing the human flag. Seriously, the fact that you dissected other videos to ascertain certain required alignments in order to achieve your 5 second goal in most impressive, thanks for the various tips
@@johannes01 well I just checked your videos out and I gotta admit, you are putting the work in and they are good videos. I just made that remark cos I see you everywhere 😅
I can do 6 or 7 full reps of a front lever from a static position. I had no idea this would be possible. Gonna start training for it tomorrow. Thanks for the motivation!
I'm from Sweden and had no idea that those were called "Swedish ladders". They have however been in every school gym hall I've ever been to so I guess they are pretty common here.
man, im not at this skill level yet, but i really enjoy your videos nontheless. i especially enjoy that you do physics equations on the exercises. thats really cool.
you know, you should put a tutorial with a clear and easy steps after you gathered a lot of information from different people, it would sure help us a lot
Bro im jealous. I recentely tryed it as well and failed misserably but i will try these tips and see how strong im or well im. I trained pull ups, muscle ups and front lever and i hope that some of that training transition to the human flag since its so good looking
hahahaha, that's cool. Former average guy. You never been an average guy because you're soooo frecking unique, funny, perseverant and your videos are just gold.
Geek Climber needs a big time climbing or calisthenics sponsorship! "Average guy becomes beast" is what all these companies are actually selling with their products, right? You're a big inspiration!
Cool! Thank you very much! That means to me to 'try each move of calisthenics first' as maybe I'm fit to do a one of them before the other 1.🙂👌🤔 It makes sense very much to me. Thx, lucky to find your channel and Greetings from Egypt!👊🔥🇪🇬🇪🇬😊
My body must be very strange then because I learned the front lever within a couple of days (it was the first calisthenics skill I learned, because it simply came natural to me) but still cannot hold a clean human flag. Also can't do a muscle up, but after one and a half years can hold an advanced tuck planche. So for me the ranking is pull up < front lever < tuck planche < straddle human flag < advanced tuck < muscle up. So I think math and physics don't really take specific muscle strengths into account. Two people with same mass distribution and equivalent height can still have very different strengths specifics (push, pull, straight arm vs curl etc.). And I don't doubt your calculations since I'm a maths PhD/programmer myself. But my assumption is that physics doesn't take muscle/tendon development into account. A lot of people e.g. are built pretty much like Osvaldo Lugones (with the same weight distribution) and cannot full planche or maltese like he does.
What the flipper, Geekclimber! You’re awesome! Wicked rad. Of course now I got to go fail. Ha ha ha. It does give me some hope if bottom hand presses more? We’ll see. Inspiring as always! 🙏🙇🏻♂️
Hey man, I really enjoy watching your videos, great job! I would be very interested to understand the manth and physics calculations you use. I train since a long period and I am still not able to do the full flag. I thing my training method is good so I would like to use your formulas to understand based on my body characteristics where am I still missing some strength. Thanks!
Would be interesting to see how you go with a 360 Pull, Ring Skin The Cat but opening the body towards a straight position. I found the carry over to other movements was really high and it unlocked the Human Flag without directly training it
Not only did my man pull off an insane move, he straight up derived the equation needed to make it mathematically simpler for him to do. Mad respects
Asian-style
when nerds start working out, its game over for anyone in the fitness industry
@@danielradosa its funny because its 100% true
it’s high school math
@@GammaFZ Ok
would be interesting to see you rank skills based on your math/physics approach!
The answer will more likely be: it depends on your body type, but it is a good idea to rank how hard certain movements would be for certain body types.
For example, weighted pull ups will be easier than front lever hold for tall people (or people without hypertrophied upper body). Another example is handstand push ups. All the weight is on top of you (almost a vertical line) so it’s not that much harder (if any) for taller people compared to other body types
Yes, this would be a video that I would like to make at some point in the future. However, I do want to make sure that I spend ample time on training the exercises that I am going to rank to avoid the "all theory, no practical experience" comments.
@@GeekClimber something I’m interested in with your front lever video is that with longer arms, won’t the rotational force on your shoulders be higher?
@@GeekClimber pls make a vdo on " how difficult is a full Planche push-up
Very interesting
That's insane dude, nice job! Always thought Human flag would be much harder then most other skills.
Same here dude. We are all victims of the erroneous ranking of Overcoming Gravity.
@@GeekClimber for me the ranking isnt really that wrong. the flag is much easier for you just because your short arms make it almost impossible to hold the full front lever. while for people with very long arms and good pulling strength, it may result more difficult to hold the flag than it is to hold the FL
It’s harder if you do it on a pole rather than bars but Geek got it fast either way.
@@miso5968 I'd still say the Flag rating is a tad too high, from my experience at least i see way more people being able to do Flags than Front Levers.
Doing Flag on a straight pole does increase the difficulty a bit tho.
@@GeekClimber I find this quite surprising.. I can do a 6-7 second front lever, 12 second back lever, and got those skills relatively easier. I can’t do human flag though. Im thinking maybe I lack push strength from a handstand position (pushing directly by sides rather than in front)
I can dip a lot of weight, do one arm pushes and pseudo planche push-ups easy enough but the human flag still eludes me!
I find myself cheering you on every time you try something, it's pretty cool watching you achieve these things, good job!!!
yess so satisfying haha
"Former Average Guy Who Could Already Do Muscle Ups and the Handstand Learns the Human Flag in 15 Days"... here, I corrected it for you
Congratulations on achieving the flag! Would love to see the math/physics video regarding this skill. Keep it up man!
As impressive as it looks, its way easier to learn than expected. Whenever I had attempted it I couldn't hold it even for a moment and almost even dislocated my shoulder once. One day I randomly watched a calimove video where they did a human flag and they were holding the bars near the edges, like you mentioned, and it instantly clicked in my mind. I tried it again the very next session and could hold it without ever having trained for it on both sides, just like you. Probably the next best motivation boost move one can master after the muscle up.
Any tips for not dislocating the shoulder?
I guess I'm going to start trying the human flag. I used to be able to do full front lever year ago and my upper body has became stronger, so it should be possible.
Also i am capable to do a full fl but the human flag seems impo to me when i try it 😔
@@aniscalisthenix7835 it's bc the fl use pull muscle and human flag use "push" muscles. it's not the same muscles that are engaged. shoulders are the most engaged muscles with the core
@Anis Calisthenix Can you do wall assisted one arm handstand? If you can, you have enough strength to learn the human flag.
@@arnaudvannaxay5824 yeah the pushing is more important than pulling in the human flag
@@GeekClimber i haven't tried to do that but i will
I would love to see all the equations you have used in your calisthenics skills!
I don’t think you realize how incredibly smart and strong you are. Props to you. Love the vids!
he is crazy!
3:54 "How-how the heck you do that?" So cute xD
Anime loli voice
Congratulations! I would love for you to have a full video explaining the math / physics of all the different types of callisthenic holds
You inspire many of us and I’m proud of the growth your channel has ! Well deserved!!
@Geek Climber I would love to see some videos talking about the math behind these calisthenics skills, especially if you are already calculating them for your own use. From your last video on the front lever I believe it sparked some great debate and it lead me to multiple conclusions I never would have come to otherwise. Perhaps your influence will help bring some truth to previously mystic aspects to calisthenics skills and the human body in general!
Cool to see the progress, but these are also probably some of the best tutorials out there
true haha
It would be kind of interesting to see a detailed video about physical equations of different calisthenic skills
which ones?
Give us the math and physics please!
It looks like the interest in math and physics is high! Make sure to comment below what math and physics explanations you want to see. What I have in mind currently: 1. Does longer arms make the human flag harder? 2. Is placing arms as wide as possible easier for the human flag? Let me know what else you want to know.
That's rascist
It's crazy how much technique plays into calisthenics. I can do a full back lever thanks to my muscle memory from gymnastics, but I had no idea how to do a human flag, until now.
Succeeded?
I can’t figure out the back lever, but i can do a front lever. I’m 13, so maybe it’s an age thing?
Incredible, good freaking work, always enjoy watching you achieve skills :p
yess agreed
I want to see the math explained. I find does videos really interesting 👍 Amazing Job dude.
he uploaded one I think!
I am a calisthenics athlete and i have some skills in my back but never trained for the flag for some reason, after seeing this video i set out to try it , and in my next session I was able to hold the flag on both sides really focusing and using all my strength,
awesome!! for how long are you doing calisthencis?
That was awesome 👏 congrats! This is the very first video I've seen of yours, but the combination of calisthenics and math seems right up my alley! I will definitely be checking out your videos. I hope you do end up making the video about the math involved in the human flag, because I'd definitely find that incredibly interesting 😀
You're such an inspiration. You're slowly taking over most skills most people only dream about. Keep it up!
bro you provide the most realistic approach to learning all these skills since you take us on your journey with you and compile all the "data" for us haha. Appreciate it alot!!!!
3:53 "h- how the heck he do that"😂
Very impressive. I love seeing u unlock new skills. Keep it up Geek.
yess he does a great job with it!
I would love to see a maths video on the difficulty of different calisthenics moves. I believe once the correct equations are established it should even be fairly simple to input different bodyweights/heights to see which exercises will be hardest to achieve for tall/short/bulky guy! Would be so interesting to see, and also really usefull for anyone going in to calisthenics knowing what to expect with their certain levers and weights!
Only an asian could manage to learn fitness by doing math.
Truly inspirational! Love what you did!
"Even the math and physics agree with me" I wish it was the same for me during class🤣
lol 😂
You're so amazing man . I'm a seasoned yogi and I learned so much watching you learn. 🙏
Very nice video, I like that you sum up the " hidden / forgotten Tipps" of all the tutorial videos you watched. Thanks man 👍
yes this makes it a tutorial video itself :)
What!!!!!! Amazing! You completely rocked it!
I thought the human flag was way harder than the front lever and back lever! You just cranked it out (after some good thinking;)!
I'll definitely try it!
I love how you're taking the math inti consideration, do research and come up with the proper technique, I find it simultaneously hilarious, insightful and worthy of a lot of respect.
Haha appreciate it, man! Good luck to your human flag journey as well!
I would love to see the math behind this move!
yeah!
Woah. I thought i 2as sitting down for along compilation of fails and attempts, but you nailed it almost immediately. Don’t sleep on this guy, he’s crazy strong and not showing signs of slowing. 😁
Congrats! Would love to see the math and physics behind it!
Absolutely!!
This is insane!!
Love it, and congratulations!!
(First time watching your vids)
First time i ever tried front lever was when i was at my peak bulk powerlifting :D The fluff was real and mass was abundant yet i pulled it off first time i tried. It has always been relatively easy for to do even without training it, it just clicks somehow. Tried human flags few time before and never got even close to one :D
Good vid dude!
I had always considered the flag to be too difficult of a skill to try out - but now seeing you try it, even off of the Swedish ladders without any real issue, you’ve inspired me to try to learn the straight bar human flag in the near future as well. I’ve been able to do fronts and back levers for pretty long times for at least a year or so now, and have been working on the planche, but this seems like a good detour skill to pick up!
this comment is wild because I used to be able to hold a human flag for like 5-7 seconds, nothing nuts. Yet I have never been close on a front lever/back lever/planche. At the time my shoulder pushing strength was pretty good and pull up strength was adequate. I'm working back up on those things this year now that I have access to a gym again and addressed some injuries from other sports.
Anyways I think you will be able to do it!
@@Itstime1231 Thanks! Yeah, I had always had it in my mind that the hand holding positions for the straight bar human flag were going to be very difficult and grindy on our bottom hand, as it didn't seem very intuitive physically (now I can understand it's more of a push pull to keep yourself up due to the supinated hand per this video). I think the other tips he mentioned on rotating out and keeping straighter will help a bunch too.
@@jonahdewing6919 You've got it!
Yeaahhh man still learnin hard and smart🔥
Thank you for the video man. Super good quality content ❤️
Congrats :)
In my experience it gets much harder on a normal vertical bar, but it’s still a lot easier than a front lever.
for sure!
I've been training with a strength focus for the past month (weighted dips and pull ups) and some days ago I tried the starting position of the flag and it felt strong ! I can't hold it yet but as you say it definitely feels more achievable than the front lever 😁 even if more leverage is involved for me due to my size (1m87 😅) Very informative video thanks, especially the tips from Chris Heria, and calisthenics family, those are the little details that make the difference 💪
"How the heck did he do that?!" LOL 3:54
I liked that you claimed you did the underlying math on the vector forces involved in doing the human flag. Seriously, the fact that you dissected other videos to ascertain certain required alignments in order to achieve your 5 second goal in most impressive, thanks for the various tips
Thanks my friend. I will get it, eventually and when I do, I will post it on my youtube channel. Take care.
Been a fan for a while now. Proud of you, Former Average Guy. Never let them make you think you are anything but! ✊🏼
when did you start watching him?
@@johannes01 more than 5 months hehe
@@TheBeatDilla wow!
Great job! I hope to master the muscle up this year with some other calisthenic skills.
me too! let's keep going and we'll achieve this together :)
I would love to see the maths and physics for the human flag.
Great video! , and yes please i’d have so much fun knowing the math/physics aspects in calisthenics
as an engineer, I would definitely wanna see the math and physics calculations!!
I would like to see the detailed math. Good job on the human flag. I wish you all success
maybe he shows it in another video
@@johannes01 yo do you have a life
@@frazebean5117 yess 😄
@@johannes01 well I just checked your videos out and I gotta admit, you are putting the work in and they are good videos. I just made that remark cos I see you everywhere 😅
@@johannes01 keep up the good work
Whaaaaa, that's incredibly impressive that you could do it right away!
That is So Clean
That was a fun video man I like your attitude thank you
I can do 6 or 7 full reps of a front lever from a static position. I had no idea this would be possible. Gonna start training for it tomorrow. Thanks for the motivation!
This finally came! I wanna follow you! Amazing!
Not the first time you give perfect tips, never stop
Excellent video. Well done!
I believe that it is more impressive that you calculated all the math and science stuff in comparison of learning the skill
haha 😂
I love how, some random dude said "HOW THE HECK HE DO THAT?!" I think it was a kid lol
Well done! That's so awesome! 👍
Haha child in the background, ”How the heck do he do that?”😅
😂
Thank you! I'm going to apply this!
Nice going 🔥
I'm from Sweden and had no idea that those were called "Swedish ladders". They have however been in every school gym hall I've ever been to so I guess they are pretty common here.
Props to you ! Good work!
man, im not at this skill level yet, but i really enjoy your videos nontheless. i especially enjoy that you do physics equations on the exercises. thats really cool.
you know, you should put a tutorial with a clear and easy steps after you gathered a lot of information from different people, it would sure help us a lot
He's literally who I want to be. Achieving strength through brains. He's living the dream
Bro im jealous. I recentely tryed it as well and failed misserably but i will try these tips and see how strong im or well im. I trained pull ups, muscle ups and front lever and i hope that some of that training transition to the human flag since its so good looking
Honestly this video is super duper cool, makes me wanna try more calisthenics
hahahaha, that's cool. Former average guy. You never been an average guy because you're soooo frecking unique, funny, perseverant and your videos are just gold.
Former average guy turned beast! Props to you dedication!
Your videos are brillant. 😂 Good job 🤙
Awesome!!!
I definitely want to see the math and physics explanation 😉!
All these people lifting weights and training hard, and this dude just applied math and science. You got yourself a sub, my friend.
Geek Climber needs a big time climbing or calisthenics sponsorship! "Average guy becomes beast" is what all these companies are actually selling with their products, right? You're a big inspiration!
bro this channel is goated
Thanks to your awesome succinct vid, I learned it in a day
Perhaps it should be mention I already have FL pull ups
Nice to see the Chris Heria clip. Good job.
Cool! Thank you very much! That means to me to 'try each move of calisthenics first' as maybe I'm fit to do a one of them before the other 1.🙂👌🤔 It makes sense very much to me. Thx, lucky to find your channel and Greetings from Egypt!👊🔥🇪🇬🇪🇬😊
My body must be very strange then because I learned the front lever within a couple of days (it was the first calisthenics skill I learned, because it simply came natural to me) but still cannot hold a clean human flag. Also can't do a muscle up, but after one and a half years can hold an advanced tuck planche. So for me the ranking is pull up < front lever < tuck planche < straddle human flag < advanced tuck < muscle up. So I think math and physics don't really take specific muscle strengths into account. Two people with same mass distribution and equivalent height can still have very different strengths specifics (push, pull, straight arm vs curl etc.). And I don't doubt your calculations since I'm a maths PhD/programmer myself. But my assumption is that physics doesn't take muscle/tendon development into account. A lot of people e.g. are built pretty much like Osvaldo Lugones (with the same weight distribution) and cannot full planche or maltese like he does.
I've read that things like where the tendons attach are very important, as it can change a lot the lever on your muscle.
When a nerd decides to become strong 💪. Honestly mad respect
4:07 the struggle of not having enough space... glad to see someone else is going through this lol. Be careful to not hit the car xD
change my mind but everyone who can do muscle up is actually not "average guy"
bro is comparing himself
What the flipper, Geekclimber! You’re awesome! Wicked rad. Of course now I got to go fail. Ha ha ha. It does give me some hope if bottom hand presses more? We’ll see. Inspiring as always! 🙏🙇🏻♂️
Calisthenics is the maximum of strength and power expressed in bodyweight, I started my journey with Caliwer and I am achieving amazing results
You're hilarious with the math equations and I love it!! 😆
Hey man, I really enjoy watching your videos, great job! I would be very interested to understand the manth and physics calculations you use. I train since a long period and I am still not able to do the full flag. I thing my training method is good so I would like to use your formulas to understand based on my body characteristics where am I still missing some strength. Thanks!
you are incredible, man
Am I the only one who heard "how the heck he do that" at 3:53 ? lmao
Would be interesting to see how you go with a 360 Pull, Ring Skin The Cat but opening the body towards a straight position. I found the carry over to other movements was really high and it unlocked the Human Flag without directly training it
yess hopefully he will make a video about these
about time you should try "Baki's One Hand Plance Pose"
I found one interesting thing it is squeezing of hands in human flag position. It helped me much
wow thats impressive good job! i should give it a try now too since i am able to do front lever
Geek Climber you're not average, always be sure you're a special and ABOVE average person
This is a VERY good video!
walter white said and i quote "there is easy way but there's also the proper way"