Janet Mock - Putting Transgender Characters Front and Center on “Pose” | The Daily Show
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- Janet Mock discusses her work on groundbreaking FX series “Pose” and reflects on being the first transgender woman of color to write and direct for a TV series.
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Trevor Noah is one of the few men I never felt bad about... It's so weird to actually watch a man on tv respecting women, asking real and good questions and validating her fight...
It makes me feel bad too.
Thats not a woman
@gypsy lab Trevor Noah isn't a man...
Janet Mock is sharp as a tack! She should run for office. lol I'd vote for her.
there should be a limit to how fine a person is...dass all i'm saying. So beautiful
As a “conservative” I really don’t understand the whole LGBT debate. They are all human beings that aren’t bothering anyone. I think that you should be able to do whatever you want and love whoever you want without being scared or harassed. I may not agree with their choices but it’s “their choice” and we should leave them the fuck alone.
Telestoe really wish more “conservatives” were open and allowed people to live THEIR truth and life as they please without hate and violence like you! We don’t have to agree on everything but human rights are for all humans
Telestoe yes!!! Its not hurting anybody and it does NOT affect you. (Btw, as a pan person i can confirm its not a choice. Just wanted to say that. But thank you for sticking up for the LGBTQ+ community. Have a lovely day.)
Gabby N - “choice” was a poor word. I should have used slightly better vocabulary. I just hate bigots. None of us lead perfect lives, if we were all just a little more kind to one another we could get so much accomplished.
@@mushyn6130it's a choice or birth defect. Pick one.
As a straight white guy, I goddam love Pose.
Why is it so important to cite your sexual credentials in order to express love for a show? That's where the problem lies brother, just love stuff unconditionally.
iemon let him express !
Yes its fun
@@iemon7722 Eh, it does matter though. While it's fine for a body of work to have a very niche consumer base, it's always worth it to know who is consuming what media, especially when it isn't the assumed or intended audience. As for TV shows that rely on ratings and ad sales, it's important to know who is watching.
me as well. i completely agree
God, she is so articulate and yet so relatable
Janet is such a beauty.
....🙄
gypsy lab no SHE is not
"TRANS PEOPLE ARE AS OLD AS TIME" thank you both
So true. Eunuchs have been always been among us.
TransHULK trans people and eunuchs are not the same. You know that, right?
enbykenz
That's stupid and wrong, though
enbykenz hmmm...maybe I havent read enough history books but I've only seen trans people referenced recently.
Could you list any sources or books that reference trans people in any sort of way? It'd be interesting to read from an older perspective.
How do you know?
She is a a goddess, can we talk about the ease of which she holds conversation, the beautiful flush on her cheeks, her incredible analytic skills, THE WAY SHE MAKES ME WANT TO CRY AT HER FEET, that bomb dress
Ryo S she truly is amazing, very well spoken, and beautiful, she's the real deal
Ryo S have some chill
He
@Abbi ishaq, go back to your third world shit hole with that bs. SHE.
That's a he...that's not natural beauty...he had work done...
What a beautiful woman! Now I have my next Netflix binge. ❤
She is stunningly beautiful, smart and real. ❤️
Im so happy that Supergirl is having their first transgender character. It's good to see how we are starting to have the LGBTQ community involved more in the Media
a classy lady...
The first half of comments are so nice, and then you get to the ignorant trolls
karen dunn that’s why I’m trying to respond to all of them lmao
RockeronGaming You're playing into their hands by responding to them all. You're feeding the trolls. I admire the effort to counteract them but their level of dumbassery and douchebaggery speaks for itself, you don't need to point it out with all of them lol
karen dunn people are so mean. She's very well spoken
Thanks for warning me. I was about to scroll down.
Just report them for hate speech.
The best thing you can do is waste their time by making them create new accounts to troll under.
She has a smile that could power all of Times Square, OMG... she's electric! Much love from a Blood Orange fan!
She's my role model.Smart and truly inspirational 💞👏🏻
It's much easier to hate something you don't understand than it is to allow your mind to expand. There's also latent social insecurity. "Look at that weird he/she. I am SO normal by comparison, right guys? Who's with me? Cause we're all normal, ESPECIALLY me huh guys?" I have empathy for both groups. Some people don't have the mental flexibility to consider that the rules we've made are subject to change. Never mind that history has never stopped proving that what we know today may not be the case tomorrow.
I can't imagine what else there is to gain from being hateful. Transpeople aren't trying to take anything away from anyone else. So the issue people take with transpeople has to be something intangible. My guess is some of the issue is people don't like having what they believe tested.
tenacious645 thank you for expressing my thoughts so well :) though I must admit I sometimes have a hard time tolerating the intolerance of others^^
Vin Yala I do too. I don't really understand how someone can be just fine with making someone's life on this planet harder than it has to be by fabricating a rank you can place yourself a top of to bolster your own ego. We only get ONE life. It's so avoidable. They aren't hurting you personally yet you're still content to make their one life on this planet THAT difficult. It just sucks. But that's my opinion. Obviously people are free to do and think whatever they'd like.
tenacious645 Of course you can in now way compare it, but as a vegetarian I also get mocked or meet people who simply can't understand it. I admit that I often get angry with them because I don't try to be cool or different, I am an ecologist and I'm just trying to save the fucking planet, why can't you just let me do that? I just don't get why people always have to feel like you would invade their privacy if you make different life choices. (Or live the way you want to, as you can't really choose to be a member of the LGBTQ community)
I love Janet Mock she is literally beautiful and so smart and strong and oh my i'm in love
Abbi ishaq agreed
Anybody can be beautiful when they go under the knife...
Trans , gay , lesbian ........or whatever if you got my back I got yours , Simple as that family💯
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Love has no labels
Yeah this people can't except themselves but yet want us to except them. GTFOH
Vile Crocodile: Beautiful, thank you for sharing.
It's also a can be a mental disorder tho.
I fucking love Pose. You ALL need to start watching it because ratings are low and if this show gets cancelled, I will be overcome with grief. I don’t care if you just turn the tv to FX at 9pm EST every Sunday and don’t watch it, just please give this show ratings. I’m begging you.
What an interesting lady, and a fascinating concept for a TV show...!
Mike Ceasar Come again?
Jade Praerie You don't use your brain much, do you... You don't read up on a lot of scientific research either, I suspect. Particularly psychology...
Jade Praerie Nope. Your understanding of gender and sex is flawed. Pointing this out is not an ad hominem. Also, please explain hermaphroditism in this dimorphic system of yours. It should be theoretically impossible, unless the system allows for exceptions. And if it allows for exceptions, should those exceptions not be recognized?
Jade Praerie I'm not pushing any ideology. If anyone is, it's you. You're pushing the idea that it's impossible to experience gender dysphoria, as if it doesn't exist at all. I just commented on Trevor's guest, and YOU started an argument surrounding her gender. And when you refuse to accept that it's possible to have a different gender from that assigned due to a person's sex at birth, and start complaining, YOU are the one pushing an agenda or ideology.
Michael Berthelsen it is stereotypes. Not to sound rude, but without seeing women then you wouldn’t be able to call yourself a woman.
She's stunning and highly intelligent. I wish I was half as beautiful as she.
Jade Praerie She's a transgender female. She's a "She", and an intelligent, stunningly beautiful female at that.
You could be with a little work done....that's not natural beauty...he's a transformer...
Beck V cuz he had work done...thats not his natural look...
Jade Praerie she , always was and always will be
Jade Praerie her biological reality is that her brain is female
Janet Mock is stupid fine!!!
Janet should have her own show, she is captivating.
He knows he wants to hit that....DAMN
Adrian Radulescu what are you talking about???
@@americanescu lol...
They be so hurt its not even funny.
@@SpookVolt they, who?
@@jadaaleeshamindexpert7365 They as in people like Adrian Radulescu.
How can there be 3 dislikes within a span of a couple of minutes ? Did they even see the whole video ? Or just crushing the dislike button blindfolded ? Skimming through videos ? Weird..
Because the minute bigots see the word transgender, at their triggered and ready to leap into the fray to make sure that hatred has its day.
Damn it, Janet, I LOVE YOU!
Black and Brown!!!!!! Y'all heard that!???
I love this woman, and I love what she is creating and the doors she is opening for others. Thank you Janet Mock! Love Azadeh
I can understand, or I read your comment as though you think im being sarcastic? And I can see why you could read it like that, but im being sincer, but I will change my comment so my message comes through. Thank you for making me aware of the possibility of misunderstanding. And just to be clear again, im being sincer. I really feel the love in this video, and the message of it, and it makes me very happy! Much love from Denmark Azadeh
Creating Azadeh y are u women incouraging these demons from hell
I love her so much. She's so poise and we'll spoken.
BTS and NCT Trash [Yuta's Smile] +
I got the opportunity to meet her in person and she’s just as beautiful in person!
OMG, Janet! I read her second book recently! Shes an amazing writer. I love her.
Sarah +
Bravo Janet
Such a smart, classy lady
Go watch Pose! I saw this interview and it got me to watch it, and it's sooooo good!!
She is beautiful.
Awesome, I can't wait to see such an interesting show... also, Why is no one screaming about how hot she looks?
It's called plastic surgery
did she just grab her own wrist while shaking his hand on purpose? it's a sign of respect in many places in the word, including sub Saharan Africa
Wow, she's beautiful! She has better bone structure than me lol
"she" has a scrotum
no , she is a woman. deal with it .
she has XY crhomsomes. deal with it
ah yeah and that´s what makes her a "man"? LOL
u want to sound that u r going with science but u r clearly not in that position and also not to tell anyone how to be or to feel.
think before u speak is my advice to u . (what u r not going to do anyway, ...)
and oh yes, she is extremly beautifull too, btw ^^)
117ralph it's a man and will forever be man. Simple.
She is so fucking gorgeous! 😍
I love Pose. Awesome tv series.
This is the kind of attitude for comunication we need nowadays. Thanks and hope more and more people in the world change his mind and his fears about the difference. At the end we are all same people.
I love you Janet
enbykenz gayyyyyy
lol no she isnt. she is as important as a participation award lol
Nauroze, you're failing to get a participation award at life, sitting in your parents basement and pouting because nobody wants to pay attention and spend time with an alt right Nazi InCel.
Also re: our snowflake conversation, you're nothing but alt right InCel buzzwords.
You literally have not had one single original thought all day.
Pretty impressive, in a funny-sad manner.
Nauroze Mir thanks for proving what a dumbass you are, moron
Great interview!
Smart woman!
I looooove this show!! I think it's so true that representation matters and we all should try to encourage diversity rather its in movies, tv, or music, etc..
The positivity in the comment section ❤❤❤❤
Transgender is someone that did sex change right?
Nathaniel Claw Not necessarily. Some Trans Gender people never do surgery. It's an extremely personal decision, which is why it is considered rude to ask a Trans Person if or what surgery they had. It's simply nobody's business.
MrMighty147
Nathaniel Claw someone who does not identify as the gender they were assigned at birth. Doesnt mean theyve gone through surgery yet (or will ever, its their decision if they wanna or not.) so your close, but no.
Truly appreciate this show.
Pose is such a good show.
It's ok to not have a strong opinion on topics sometimes.
mal doran especially when you have little to no knowledge of the topic
AvgJane19. When has that ever stopped anyone? Just look here in the comment section, and you'll see what I mean.
Love Pose! Please watch and get your life!
Who else attempted to press "Like" before the interview even started?
Beautiful woman, and wonderful to work toward opening ppl's minds, and stopping the horrors put upon trans ones. I must say though, I don't like that not-trans ppl are referred to as "cis." It brings to mind "hiss" and just the energy of it seems negative. It's almost like it's labeling all other ppl as being the enemy or something. Clearly many are, but don't put us all in that camp. It's like all the rest of us did something wrong, so in need of this new label. Why not just reference others as, um, other ppl or simply non-trans ones.
"Cis" and "trans" are just Latin.
Don't you like the sound of the word "white" either? Should we call "white" people just "non-Black"? That would be extremely confusing.
Btw, I don't like it when people talk about energy of words and other esoteric bs. Makes me feel extremely uncomfortable.
F*ck you. Better? Heh. Btw, what are ppl called that aren't albino or dwarfs? Whatever stupid response you have to that, you're wrong. It is the same thing.
Omg, what have I done? Critizising your choice of words, just bc they sounded strange and unfamiliar to me personally, was very condescending.
I didn't even consider if there might be a reason why you're using these words before I dismissed them. I judged solely from my own point of view. I should have accepted that other people might have others, based on their own experiences. Who would do such a thing? Only an idiot. I owe you an apology bc that was very hurtful and mean. No one should be so self-centered to dismiss other people's opinions before knowing a bit about why they have them. I am so, so sorry.
Hey, don't be so hard on yourself. You were probably having a bad day, and that's why you rabidly attacked me for no reason other than my simply expressing my opinion. "Idiot" is pretty harsh, but then again, you totally sidestepped my counter to your attack (dwarf, albino), so I can see how you would feel like an idiot. Ya' know, in that you haven't a clue how to respond to that very valid point/question. Have a great evening, sweetie ;-)
Oh, thank you so much! You really don't need to let me get away that easily. If other people get hurt bc I'm not only ignorant but also totally ignorant of my own ignorance, then I should be at least a bit ashamed of my behavior. It's just not right to be this hostile about a topic I'm not really familiar with.
I'm afraid, you're right about me not having a clue. I'm not very familiar with the social implications of people who are suffering from height discrimination or who are persecuted for their albinism. I know that people with albinism are murdered or r-p-d in some countries but personally I've only listened to some Salif Keita songs and seen a few Victor Varnado clips and didn't get his humor, that's it. I'm definitively not qualified or able to answer your question about it. So sorry.
I've a distant friend who has dwarfism though. We always talk about board games and aloholic beverages (or we just play and drink together, obviously) but maybe I should ask him someday if he'd like to talk about me about height discrimination and if I could be unwillingly contributing to it. Or I'll just search the internet for articles in which people with dwarfism or albinism describe their experience. I'll never have first hand experience about these kinds of discrimination but reading about it from different people might give me some clue about what I could do to make this society better and more accepting towards minorities. So learning about height discrimination is way easier for me than learning about discrimination of people with albinism. I'll definitively try it next time I meet him.
I mean, dwarfism and albinism are currently listed as congenital disorders, so technically the shorthand term "tab" would be an antonym to both in most contexts. I'm not really sure to which extend people with dwarfism and/or people with albinism are part of the disability community bc I'm not really a part of it myself. I gotta ask them nice and friendly, I guess.
I also moved to NYC for college because of Felicity! 😂😂😂😂
Sexy? Duh. Intelligent? Also duh! Didn't expect that second part did you?
She's Hott
The only guy in tv i remember being who i could connect with was danny fantom idk why im a biracial gay trans dude and danny definetly wasnt that but i still saw who i was and who i wanted to be in him.
Growing up as a cis, white, gay male in North Dakota, couldn't be more excited and proud to learn that she married my 2nd cousin. Bringing a new light to the family and to the nation. So important.
Beautiful
I'm not sure trans ppl are as old as time but I do believe these ppl are brave and kind. Trans is beautiful
Jo March I mean technically it's no possible for trans people to be as old as time since for trans people to exist there'd have to be people first and they took quite some time to develop....... WAIT! I'VE CRACKED THE SECRET, TRANS PEOPLE ARE THE I MORTALS WHO CREATED OUR UNIVERSE!
It is well documented in ancient history
Jo March transpeople have been here since the beginning .. just google lol
I can't decide if this comments section has hope in it, or is a disaster lol. Perhaps a little of both. Anyways, nice to see an interview with one of the writers finally. I've seen tons with teh actresses, but I did wonder about the writing room a lot, and the show feels that more authentic when you know that trans women are behind the lens as well as in front of them. Anyways, Pose is spectacular. Anyone not already watching it, watch it!
Come through Janet Mock on The Trevor Noah Talk Show Yesssssss 5/14/24 .
Love Love Love the show! Great story lines! Emotional roller coaster!
Read her memoir in one LGBT course in UC Berkeley.
There is nothing new on this planet trans or not every person thinks the same shit yes or no agree or disagree.imagine dj Khalid train for 2years still looking the same this is what we should be talking about guys
Get it, girl! Yasss! 💕
Ryan Murphy has a long way to go to make up for perpetuating the "predatory trans woman" trope (see Nip/Tuck season 2). This is a start.
Thanks for posting.
> A show about trans people made by a trans person
:D !
> "Five transwomen..."
... :( ah.
I guess transmen will just be over here, still invisible and totally unrepresented even in media created by trans people for trans people. The way she talks about really wanting to show trans people's stories makes it sting too, like "trans people" is just a synonym for "transwomen".
If you've seen the show and can tell me if there are any transmasculine side characters please let me know, I would love to be wrong about this.
WoW she look like cis 100%
the wonder woman thing makes me wonder
charlie's angels had fight scenes
Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li this movie was so badass too
and without even superpower
and a lot of female heroines that has action and power
so why wonder woman has all the credit
this is really unfair for the mainstream to discard the other works like that
I love being a transwomen
Trevor Noah how much I want that man
My only hang up with trans people is which pronouns to use. I don't pretend to understand 'em, but I don't exactly _have_ to. 🤷 I don't understand quantum physics _either,_ but I know it _works_ and that's good enough for me. Same deal.
lazyperfectionist1 when it comes to pronouns its best to observe what the people they're surrounded by refer to them as, use "they/ them/ theirs" until you figure it out, or simply ask them (if it's appropriate). Just use tact
Just ask! 😃 If you get someone's pronouns wrong they aren't going to hate you forever and leave it up to some guessing game. If you ask them what they would like to be called, you can call them that, and if they decide to be called something else, you can do that too
Fair enough
lazyperfectionist1 to
It's really just about respect. You aren't lawfully obligated to call someone by their preferred pronouns but NOT doing it just makes you an asshole and deserving of scorn.
Nat Geo needs to do a feature on Trans pets! 👀😏
I’m a simple man I see Trevor I click
Thank you for featuring that...
The pink blush on her cheeks almost look like burns, i cant not stare at it
Sometimes I get too scared to date but know more then ever I say fuck it cause it doesn’t matter trans gay bi lesbian whatever it’s always the same outcome:Good sex. 🤷♂️Screw it right.
I love this show 🤩
Boy, would I love to drag all of the "chromosome"/"biology"/"science" guys (and girls) into a lecture about post-structuralism...
What a queen 😍
Facts
REDXRANGE excuse you. that word is extremely offensive and derogatory towards people like us.
DaLinnamonRoll don't listen REDXRANGE, they are probably some middle aged man sitting on their ass eating Krispy Kreme's
izzy 74506 only Krispy koreans my man
REDXRANGE tf??
haha. you guys should check out the fiba basketball brawl.
So odd for Mock to say she's authentic compared to cis straight women (and she DID, rewatch if you missed it) when they are sitting there with fake hair, fake boobs and a surgeried face. I understand the point they were trying to make, but the swipe at XX's wasn't necessary. We can all be great without the shade.
This is the best thing i've heard in a while :) To anyone who is now interested in trans history go look it up, its a big part of our species history.
Don't Trust Rainbows Come on, it is definitely a part of a long tradition. But its not a important part of history.
tradition is just repeated behaviour and all of history is important but the more we know about other people that aren't you is valuable, if this history was teached in most schools we would have alot less racists and prejudice filled people in our society. Sorry if you don't see the same value in that knowledge.
i got a notification that you replied but it isn't fully showing, guessing YT is derping again.
Don't Trust Rainbows You're letting the present change the past. Just because transgender people are becoming more important in society does not mean they have always been. Transgenders were often shunned in the past. You should tell that history and why it happened back then(and why we now think it's wrong).
(ok yet this msg displays yet the previous 1didn't for me, good job YT) i think the present is the most important with historys role being in the case of human history to show how attitudes have changed and the reasons behind conflict, that is why i said its a big part, not of the entirety of history but its role in the present. And i never said they have always been this important but as a trans person i wouldn't have had decades of mental trauma (well not as much atleast) if i was told even just the basics of trans history and gender identity, im pretty sure i would have felt more comfortable in my own skin. Different parts of history are worth more to some than others. tbh i dont think either of us is strictly incorrect.
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I'm so spooked
I'm married to a real woman who is real AND authentic! She gave birth to our beautiful daughter. This creature here is an affront to what womanhood is! And this joker there, pay him millions, give him a script and he'll never disappoint.
soddom and gommorah people. u r going back to the creator as the sex u were born. not what u made yourself to be.
and you are also going back to your creator the same way you were born. As an idiot.
they took our jerbs
Wow trevor you really need to tell your female friends that wonder woman was not the first film that has a woman kicking a man's ass...
Thats a really weird thing to cry about 😁
Jefrey Valencia tank girl
Jefrey Valencia agreed, it definitely wasn't the first. I assumed they meant first blockbuster, but I'm not sure.
Jefrey Valencia Well ofc it wasn't but it's one of the first big picture movie for today's generation with a strong woman kicking men's asses. There isn't a lot of media rep for women like that. Tbh off the top of my head Kill Bill is the only strong cinematic female lead that physically kicks people's asses.
People cry when they get emotional and it's a thing of relief. I know I cry every time I see lesbian representation because it makes me feel valid.
Neon Panda. Black Widow in the Marvel movies, Ripley in Alien, Sarah Connor in Terminator, Lara Croft in Tomb Raider?
I've seen plenty of lady leads in ass-kicking films but I can share my personal story on why Wonder Woman and the no-man's land battle scene made me cry. I've been a lady nerd my entire life, raised by the internet, played Japanese RPGs, read comics, played DnD, etc. I'm also at an age where I've watched and enjoyed the rise of superhero blockbuster films and their role in making my interests and hobbies more mainstream. I actually don't like the DC franchise (prefer Marvel) for the most part but I wanted to see Wonder Woman because I wanted to see myself on screen. And when I saw her being a beautiful valkyrie, I cried for all the little girls who will see this and see themselves in her too, when I had never experienced that validation in my tomboy childhood.
218 dislikes? What the heck was so offensive about this? o.O
SAM MULLER reported your comment, Ben Shapiro is over that way troll.
Atley Meow
oh no did u really report it 😂
what a fucked up baby you're
I'm serious gender dysphoria shouldn't be normalized
SAM MULLER ...seek help my friend.. you sound like you need to see a therapist..
Atley Meow
a therapist ?
oh no I'm a doctor and i knoe for a fact that we shouldn't normalize GD
SAM MULLER gosh.. I could have sworn you were some first world internet culture white boy getting your kicks out of playing armchair nihilist troll. Sheesh, glad to know your a doctor! Lmao.. dont be mad 😊 you'll find happiness in something else besides treating people like shit behind an anonymous moniker online some day friend 😊
All of this.. all good shit rite here fuck god damn yes
Life is like a box of chocolates...
What a hottie
Actual facts
:D
Nah this trans stuff is getting out of hand
Chief Cultural Director how is it getting out of hand? We’re just finally being put in the media and being proud of who we are.
Good, let go of it. It doesn't need to be handled. Unless you're trans it's not yours to control
studio ghibili we’re not crazy. We were just born not like cis people were born.
it's dangerous to normalise a mental illness. Putting trans people in the media will influence a generation of people and kids when really every statistic negates the normality of transgenderism. It will effect the economy and prety much everything, it's a recipe for disaster. Just a look at the sucide rate shows that more than half of people who are trasngender commit sucide, statistics also show that when a child has a transgender parent or parent(s) they are less 15 to 20 times less likley to succeed in school/life as opposed to a man/woman parental relationship
you were born either a biological man or a biological women .......you choose to pretend you are something else later on ....but your dna does not lie ...
This is why I and many others won’t watch Trevor Noah, leading to falling viewer numbers and ratings…
what really is a transgender? male body with female parts and vice versa? i don't get transgender
touche
Udip Adhikari being transgender means that whatever gender you were assigned at birth doesn’t feel right to you and you experience a lot of discomfort being in that body because you feel that’s not what you’re supposed to look like and so people transition to the gender they feel most comfortable as, sometimes by taking hormones and having operations
KayJayPea sorry but that is biologically impossible, if i buy a ford car but feel like calling it a mercades it doesn't change the fact that it's a ford car. Feelings and logic are two different things
so physically there is nothing visibly wrong with the body? like if you were to see them you could identify them as male or female right
Being transgender means that you’re born as one sex, like someone being born as a girl, but as they grow up they realize they’re not a girl. It could be vice versa for trans women.
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