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I think it depends on the trooper I saw a LG the other day say quite loudly get back when someone went to touch the horse. The sign would definitely be more effective if it was on the other side and higher, certainly more visible, at the moment it is obscured by tourists most of the time. John the horse in the right box you identified as Opera on the 5th of June.
These silly females who pose should know about the old saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Perhaps they would then realise that ordinary doesn't cut it
Part 2 was a big let down. Compare to part 1. By the Life Guards. And I greatly admire both regiments. I know the armed officers have alot to patrol. But I don't see them in the front either. I believe putting two more officers permanently. Near the guard boxes wouldn't hurt. A memo reminding the guards. To Implement a stern vocal command,. nod "No", nudge or moving back. Into the boxes. Before tourists grabby hands. Had a chance to touch the horses. Would get the message across. There's just too many tourists allowed. At Horse Guards. How can you ever control that problem.🤷♀️💂♀️❓
Buenos Días,,, Que les pasa a estos Soldados, que le tocan al Caballo y No dice nada... Acaso se quedan dormidos??? La señal sola No va a servir; es como el aviso de : No tocar las riendas... Ellos No lo permitían... Hasta que , otro Caballo vuelva a morder grave... No obedecen la orden dada...
Have the guards lost their voices 🤯. Don’t go putting signs up if you are not going to reinforce them, it gives mixed messages. My goodness, there’s nothing worse than disrespectful people taking a chance to touch the horses while blatantly ignoring the signs, others are definitely going to do the same.
I am from the US and I’m ashamed at the entitlement some people have. It’s disgusting ! These are working horses, you wouldn’t go up to a police officer in the US and touch his horse. You would get a fast reprimand! (The horse is obviously getting agitated at the 40:00 mark)
@@_Ben4810The only place here in America that frown on idiots tourists not being where their not supposed to, is Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier in Washington D.C. but still people insist on pushing the boundaries. There too area is marked off where tourists are not allowed, and they still try.
Those crowds are worse than the crowds we dealt with at Disney World a year ago! We were at Horseguards back in 2011 & crowds were nowhere that bad! I would have had an anxiety attack if they had been. Why have signs if they aren't going to enforce them. They need to all get on the same page.
Until each and every Trooper tells every single person to either or both NOT TOUCH and MOVE BACK then nothing will change and it even more confusing for both horses and public. If the horse can turn his head and touch somebody then that person is TOO CLOSE.
A Venezia verranno messi i cartelli per proibire i tuffi dai ponti dentro al canal grande E verranno messi in tante lingue,inglese compreso così lo capiscono anche i turisti più complicati da gestire
In the States, people go to the national parks and try to touch/approach wild animals…grizzlies, bison, moose. People have been badly injured, but still they persist.
There is zero consistancy when it comes to touching the horses. Some guards don't allow, while others do. It needs to be fully informed across the board that nobody touches the horses. Even that one horse was pushing people back. Yes it's bothersome to yell at everyone, but rules are rules. I think each guard should have a cop beside them to inforce the no touching. Maybe then people would eventually get the hint.
I'm American, their American. I can read the sign, they can read the sign. It's not in a foreign language they don't understand. There, I said it, if other Yanks don't like it, ohhhhh well. Learn to read the sign that is in English and obey the sign.
No consistency, management who make the rules, should tell the guards whichever regiment they are, should follow the rules and stop everyone from touching the horses or take the signs down. Pointless having rule if it's not enforced by all.
Afternoon John, enjoyed your video. I just want to say a big thank you to the Troopers, guards and everyone working at HorseGuards you do a great job under circumstances none of us work under, where everything you do is watched and is picked to pieces, you are respected and appreciated, thank you from Australia.
@@mustang1888 If a sign was around the neck of the horse, people would still touch. It's a game to some, rebellious (thinking challenge accepted) and entitlement of others. Just a little personal observation of too much time on the Internet. 😆
you are right😂 one side of box is doing nothing on the other side signs the box is open so Now they stand and lean ON the horse they then can SAY I DID NOT TOUCH THE HORSE 😂 I DID NOT TOUCH THE HORSE HE TOUCH ME
The Life Guards are the top tier of the British Army, the most senior of all regiments (allegedly), but I agree the Blues and Royals lead the way with the rules, reminders etc. To tourists etc., such a shame to see the life guards letting the household division down. Regards a retired CSM
@@hcfan_aj I was just wondering. I’m in awe of the British military now, and it is impressive to have some in the comment section. I realized after I asked you’re probably from Canada, based on your profile picture.
@annieg5487 it is and is common across the commonwealth nations for WO2, but don't salute us lol we're not commissioned buy have a warrant, but by lower ranks called sir or ma'am.
Good morning John: had a really great discussion with another member yesterday about the signage etc. It really is a Catch 22 situation. 1) This is a Heritage Site. What is required to add additional signage? Does the MOD have to request permission from a Heritage Conservation Org., or can they decide themselves what signage to post and how many? 2) Troopers not enforcing the rule, (unfortunately it seems to be HCAV more than B&R). She stated, and I agree, "even if there were signs everywhere and flashing neon, some tourists would ignore it all anyway". Proof in you video today - lady in the lime green sweater (Korean?) and the US tourists (shame). What it comes down to is consistency (from the troopers saying "NO" and respect from the Tourons to understand that No means No). Let's hope that MOD sort this out, because crowds are going to grow and at some point it will become a real issue. My two cents from the other side of the pond. Thanks for showing us what really is happening at Horse Guards. Great Video. Bronx, NYC
Hi! This Heritage site stuff is a bit confusing - from what I could find the Horse guards building is on the National Heritage List, which doesn't look to have anything to do with the Heritage Conservation Org? Way too many heritage references and groups show up when googling. Would they need to get permission to even put a second nail in the wall on the opposite side to hang a second sign?
Horse Guards is a Grade 1 Listed Building , I suspect permission would have to be applied for and granted first before any changes to putting up extra signs and how signs were made , they must be in keeping with the history . A work in progress imho .
@@kathellison8084thank you. It is confusing to say the least. Hope it can be sorted out, not only for the sake of the horses, but to give the troopers a sense of responsibility to say “Don’t Touch my Horse”.
Where is that great police woman when you need her. She would have stopped all of that touching of the horse real quick. I am assuming they told the troopers it is up to them to tell tourist to not touch the horse too since some do and some don't. Mixed signals. Thanks for your always great videos which I really needed this weekend since one of my toy poodles passed Friday.
As a US citizen I was very upset with US tourists😖! No excuse for their behavior! Granted the sign was on the other side but they had to have seen it when approaching they Gate Box!
@@renatatarnawski5974oh so you think Americans are all that way! Don’t criticize all because of a few that you knew. There’s entitled people all over the world.
I do not disagree with your comment regarding location of the signs. However some visitors have not heard of the saying "If it doesn't belong to you leave it alone. RESPECT does not require a sign.
I noticed several people in videos putting their hands over the horses nostrils. I guess they don't know that horses aren't mouth breathers. Could cause horse to panic. Another reason to not touch the horses. Just my opinion.
C’est aussi la faute du soldat…… assis ( remarquez ,pour gérer un cheval ,vaut mieux être assis,qu’à genoux !!!! 🧐 .) c’est aussi sa faute ,s’il y a autant d’abrutis ??? Gardes gardez votre courage, vous êtes estimés par beaucoup de personnes , vus les commentaires,c’est rassurant . Courage . Monique 🇫🇷
The 'person sitting on the horse' is a king guard, not any old Joe Blow! They are serving officers who have seen active duty, and they don't need to be disrespected, thank you.
Good morning, John Although I have just started the video, but a US citizen, please accept my apologies for those 2 idiots. 😡 Have a great afternoon. From Maryland USA
You don’t need to apologize for grown adults who travel and are rude everywhere they go. That’s on them! It does make others form an opinion that all people from that country are the same. You can tell decent folks from evil ones.
@@jenniferrandolph4115 It is embarrassing for the USA but it seems people aren't ashamed of their actions anymore. If I misbehaved as a child my mom would point out other people were watching me be ugly. I didn't want that so I stopped and usually I got in trouble for my actions when I got home. Until there are consequences people will keep breaking rules. :(
That number on the left is a 5 John ! Thank you once again for spending your time at Horseguards for us ! I so enjoy your rhetoric and people watching is my favourite pastime although difficult for me now as I am housebound and you enable me to live vicariously through your lens so , many many thanks for your acerbic wit that has me chuckling out aloud gaining me some very dodgy looks from my wife 😜 lol ! ❤❤
Love your laugh John! Always watch London City Walks everyday. I really like your information on the guards and horses! My best to you from Buffalo, New York USA.
I can’t believe this, the blues and Royals strictly do not touch the animal, but the Red lifeguards, allowing people to touch the horses and not speaking up doesn’t it kind of aggravate you that this happens I would not want my horse mold and touched all over. I don’t even like my service dog touched unless I say it’s OK I snap at people when they reach out and try to pet them, I don’t want anybody touching my animal😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I’m beginning to think the guards have a real problem with the word “NO”, the vultures (Tourons) should have more consideration for the horse, it’s all wrong.
Hello John ❤!! i was wondering how long it would be and American fellow's should be ashamed of them selfs. I agree the Guards need to be more firm with these Tourons who think they are being clever but they are not they are being Disrespectful to our Troopers. Hope we get all this sorted and our Troopers can use their voice to their advantage. Thank you John Stay Safe ❤️❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧
Ils ne doivent pas parler !!!!! Sinon ……. Punition à la suite !!!!!! Renseignez vous sur le règlement des gardes . Ces cavaliers en position, est une épreuve , a l’essai pour accéder à la continuité d’être acceptés , très rigoureux ,respect pour eux ! Monique 🇫🇷
Why should the people abide by the rules...if the Guards don't? Guards are the ones who should enforce the rules...No one touches the horse....😮..safer all around....Thats why i like the Blues more....And Ormande of course...😂......🤠💪❤️🙏 For 🇬🇧💂🐎🇺🇸💋
Horseguards really have to sort themselves out. Signs need to be remade and the mixed messaging has to stop! How can you have one guard enforcing the rules and another guard just sits there without saying a word.
Hi John! I am a new subscriber as of August 19th! I find you charming, and your city just lovely. I am 78 this year and because of health, and my hubby having a stroke I can visit with you right here! I have met some of the sweetest people from England on TH-cam. One sweet lady and I would exchange gifts across the ocean. My favorite person is a single young man from Scotland who I met on TH-cam and began a true friendship. He is close to my children’s ages, and he sends me packages from Scotland, and I send from America him things too! At my age I would have never had the chance to meet the best folks from England/Scotland ….small world! I apologize for the Americans who are rude and disrespectful to your wonderful guards. It is embarrassing for me to watch that……I hate it when people annoy the horses too. The horses are working, and I hated seeing them poked at by people being thoughtless! Now the new rules will prevent it! So in closing I say thank you to the wonderful people across the pond in England. Thank you all for being so welcoming to this old American lady! Hugs to you! 🤗🇺🇸…..I will miss seeing Ormonde getting a nip in! Who knows Ormonde might still be gloriously mischievous! 😊
All of the guards need to say no touching. It needs to be more enforced. It’s too confusing to the crowds. Why let people touch when the sign is right there saying dont touch. I think some of the guards are too shy.
@@tonicaron7585 It is really bizarre to put up new signs, then have the guards allowing touching. It was even worse this afternoon than it was yesterday when John filmed. London Chronicles channel posted a video today. There was So much touching.
No, John, the biggest rule breakers today were the troopers who weren't enforcing the rules. I'm only half way through the video and I'm going to log off because I'm over it tonight and just can't finish watching the video tonight.
Well, the experiment doesn't seem to be working all that well. Some people are spending a lot of time stroking the horse and no one is telling them to back off. Such is life...
PLEASE dont fault the guards you dont know what ordered they were given as to say or not to say to the tourists! They may just be following orders!❤ Either way the horses are not as mauled as they were!
Service dogs wear vests that say “ Service Dog Do Not Interact “ maybe there should be a sign letting people know these are working horses not for your photo session!!
Of course they’re there for photo sessions. The mounted guards at Horseguards are a well-known tourist attraction and promoted as such. Being photographed is part of the job.
20 minutes in there was an Asian tourist who had their hands all over the horses head and the trooper said nothing. John - doesn’t this disrespect the Trooper’s CO by not saying anything? I could not believe that with the new signs, the CO would leave it up to the trooper.
The FAILURE of the Mounted Guards to ENFORCE the PROHIBITION SIGN is very DISAPPOINTING. How do you expect tourists to follow through & take it seriously by KEEPING MUM about it?
Shame on the guard! All she has to do is say NO! She isn’t even attempting to pull the horse away and that’s on her. Many of the other guards keep a tighter rein!
Please don't shame a Kings guard, they are all serving officers in the military and have seen active duty, there's nothing shameful about them. Maybe some of them are ok with their horse being petted. One time a person told another person not to touch the horse and the guard on the horse said they could touch his horse, as it was his horse and he makes the rules, not the public. So there's that.
They probably want to fit themselves and the horse in the centre of a “portrait” orientation photo. People taking the picture probably can’t back up far enough to get them in, with the other crowd of people behind them (or the road). Also… animal = magnet for animal lover. The desire to be close isn’t that hard to understand, imo.
Do all these troopers know that the animals are not to be touched or hasn’t fully gone through all the ranks what do we know the sign says no touching, but she put her hands all over the horse and even put her hands under a head wrapped her arm right around around
Some rando tourist touches the horse, and 😢If nothing is said by the Guard, everyone watching thinks it’s OKAY to touch and annoy the horse, also! Either it’s YES or NO. What is the purpose of the signs except if someone gets badly bit I guess the Horse Guards are legally protected. It’s stupid having the signs and saying nothing.🙄
@@SpiritofaGrandmotherUnfortunately that’s not how all humans behave, following rules and laws. If this were the case, no police would be needed in the world. The troopers are responsible for taking care of their horses. Enforcing no touching is taking care of their horses.
Very disappointed that the troopers have gone silent. Blues much more on top of order. Allows guests to enjoy their visit more. Also didn’t see the COH out and about as we see with the Blues.
54:05 It makes me sad when I see fathers shoving and dragging their clearly frightened sons in front of the horse 😞 You can see this a lot and yes, it's mostly fathers and sons.
This has nothing to do with this video , well maybe a little , I've just spent a relaxing couple of hours watching , again , the " Behind The Scenes " videos from Hyde Park Barracks and I suggest anyone who hasn't seen them , or like me going back to watch again do please watch ! It shows how hard these Troopers work and care for their horses , and yes they do care despite what some people feel ! I find myself disappointed and disheartened at some comments , telling the Troopers how they think their jobs should be done when none of us know their orders and why should we ? I could go on a rant but I won't , it's just my opinion , and we all know the saying about opinions. 😀. Relax , forget about tourists , settle down with a cuppa ( or whatever your choice of beverage ) and go back Behind the Scenes for some fun and enjoyment 😀 Have a good day everyone 😊
I've noticed that when the nice Female Police Officer isn't on duty the other police officers are in the yard chit chatting and not paying attention to what's going on out the front
Why did the Guard let that couple touch like that? He was watching them too, so I think it’s been left to the discretion of the Guard based on the temperament of each particular horse. Also, here in CA we don’t touch mounted patrol officers unless we ask first so I’m not sure where that couple was from 🤷♀️
The signs have made a huge difference ,but the guards have got to react,because if one person gets away with touching ,they all follow .I,respect the guards ,and don't like to moan about them /
Yes this is the LAW!!! It’s definitely not just a sign that is not enforceable at all 😂 foolish wimpy guards ay serving their country and getting hammered on social media
@@JoanMinchew-it1lz After trooper says no them next should be a shout! People will continue if no consequences for their actions. People aren't ashamed of their actions anymore.
They need sign both sides and that guard should open his mouth no good putting sign up if he just sits there and allows idiots who can't read touch the horse waste of time
The extra special care the guards take when children are around is amazing. The guards have to be 'on' 100%. Great job! If I could I'd buy them all a beer.
If visiting, just make sure you go on the day the Lifeguards are working, and you'll be allowed to do what you'd like with the horses! Pet them, hug them, kiss them, etc..... Why do they not enforce a very easy "rule"? They just sit there like bumps on a log, and don't reprimand anyone that molests the horses! Unless and until there are guards posted that follow the rule themselves, nothing will change!
Looks like the troopers are asleep. If one tourist sees touching they all will follow suit. What good are signs if they don't enforce them. I saw the lady police officer last week telling tourist not to touch the horse but the trooper did nothing after. I hope they'll start enforcing the signs soon.
The NEW sign should be on the other wall at above Head height as in its present position it is hidden nearly all the time by tourists standing in front of it and I believe all the Troopers and Police should informed the New Rules without exception.
What is the point of the signs if people are still touching the horses ,and the troopers don't enforce it by telling them not touch their horses ,they need to stop them touching their horses .
Total disgust with the mounted guards in both boxes. Tourists continue to ignore the signs and the guards don't open their mouth. The signs on the right box are hanging sloppy and nothing being done to fix them. Is this what the King's protection is like? Just completely careless and very sloppy and the guards siut there with crazy glue on their lips. And don't tell me they are told not to say anything, because there are a couple of guards that do their job correctly. Can't watch this drivel any longer. And don't bother trying to be cool and snapping back at me because I won't be here to see any crapola.
A couple of them seem to miss the attention. There are always a few horses that love being the center of attention. The one with the small blaze seems to be one. Maybe that is why the guard allows a bit more touching.
@@kathym8223 But it must be one rule for all and the same for all. How on earth does the next person watching TH-cam know not to touch “the main man” before she gets lifted in the air? There is no doubt at all that the horses are way more quiet and relaxed with the mob keeping their distance and allowing the horses to do their job. For me, the horse’s overall welfare must be the priority over “one horse maybe liking a stroke”. Remember, the horses are not being abandoned. They are standing on duty for 60 minutes only.
@@Golden1989-days oh I agree it is better for all to not be mobbed and touched. But there seems to be a bit of leeway if the horse reaches out first. That seems to be the difference I see. If you are a very outgoing person and one day you walk into work and no one speaks to you it would be jarring. We understand why, they do not. A sudden change can cause behavior issues. These horses are greatly cared for and the guards understand what they need.
Hi John, nice to see you today. Do you think signs are needed both sides.? It’s very noticeable how chilled by and large the horses are now. But, bring back the amazing Armonde.
Shame on the guards. They need to show respect to their mount by speaking up when a tourist touches it. These guards are very apathetic compared to the blues and royals. Love your videos and the running commentary, thankyou John.
There are signs up, to keep the public safe and to help not stress the horses. If some troopers don’t agree, perhaps they should tell their commanding officer why. Everyone appreciates the troopers’ service but rules aren’t supposed to be ignored. Even if no one was filming and uploading videos and people are able to comment, the same thing applies and would be noticed by visitors who don’t, ignore sensible and obvious rules.
The signs will only work IF the Guards back it up by saying DON"T TOUCH THE HORSE! Yet again it is the Reds that are letting them get away with it, until the horse is the one to tell them to back off!
the new sign changing the Rule to not touching the horse has been up for almost 2 weeks - every army trooper is required to follow the Rules whether he/she likes them or not - whomever fails to enforce this Rule displays the highest level of disrespect, and his/her commanding officer should remove him/her from ceremonial duty and have him/her returned to active military duty -
It is so frustrating to see the tourists are still touching the horses and the King's Guards don't tell them NO TOUCHING. Of course the tourists will touch since other people don't get told.
Tourists see now if you stand really close to the horse, the horse will nuzzle you which gives you the excuse to touch the horse. As usual, the guards say nothing and other tourists feel they can touch the horse, nothing will happen.
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I think it depends on the trooper I saw a LG the other day say quite loudly get back when someone went to touch the horse. The sign would definitely be more effective if it was on the other side and higher, certainly more visible, at the moment it is obscured by tourists most of the time.
John the horse in the right box you identified as Opera on the 5th of June.
These silly females who pose should know about the old saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Perhaps they would then realise that ordinary doesn't cut it
John, we need that great female MOD officer here, she would sort them out
Part 2 was a big let down. Compare to part 1. By the Life Guards. And I greatly admire both regiments. I know the armed officers have alot to patrol. But I don't see them in the front either. I believe putting two more officers permanently. Near the guard boxes wouldn't hurt. A memo reminding the guards. To Implement a stern vocal command,. nod "No", nudge or moving back. Into the boxes. Before tourists grabby hands. Had a chance to touch the horses. Would get the message across. There's just too many tourists allowed. At Horse Guards. How can you ever control that problem.🤷♀️💂♀️❓
Buenos Días,,, Que les pasa a estos Soldados, que le tocan al Caballo y No dice nada... Acaso se quedan dormidos??? La señal sola No va a servir; es como el aviso de : No tocar las riendas... Ellos No lo permitían... Hasta que , otro Caballo vuelva a morder grave... No obedecen la orden dada...
Have the guards lost their voices 🤯. Don’t go putting signs up if you are not going to reinforce them, it gives mixed messages. My goodness, there’s nothing worse than disrespectful people taking a chance to touch the horses while blatantly ignoring the signs, others are definitely going to do the same.
Exactly.
Totally agree!
Agree. I don't understand how commanders aren't putting that straight. 🤷♀️
Not allowed to shout
@@alexkiernan6148 Why?
Absolutely disgusting entitled spoiled people. Breaking the rules even when there is a sign.
I am from the US and I’m ashamed at the entitlement some people have. It’s disgusting ! These are working horses, you wouldn’t go up to a police officer in the US and touch his horse. You would get a fast reprimand! (The horse is obviously getting agitated at the 40:00 mark)
I totally agree! Shame on them!
Usually, in America, you can touch the police horses, most actually like people petting them.
But always good to ask officer riding the horse first.
@@_Ben4810The only place here in America that frown on idiots tourists not being where their not supposed to, is Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier in Washington D.C. but still people insist on pushing the boundaries. There too area is marked off where tourists are not allowed, and they still try.
@@_Ben4810and there are a few videos at least of transgressions here in America.
Those crowds are worse than the crowds we dealt with at Disney World a year ago! We were at Horseguards back in 2011 & crowds were nowhere that bad! I would have had an anxiety attack if they had been. Why have signs if they aren't going to enforce them. They need to all get on the same page.
Morning John! I don’t understand the troopers not speaking up, you would think they would be extremely protective of their trooper partners!😢
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Until each and every Trooper tells every single person to either or both NOT TOUCH and MOVE BACK then nothing will change and it even more confusing for both horses and public.
If the horse can turn his head and touch somebody then that person is TOO CLOSE.
A Venezia verranno messi i cartelli per proibire i tuffi dai ponti dentro al canal grande
E verranno messi in tante lingue,inglese compreso così lo capiscono anche i turisti più
complicati da gestire
In the States, people go to the national parks and try to touch/approach wild animals…grizzlies, bison, moose.
People have been badly injured, but still they persist.
You wouldn't believe the things they do down in the south. And then they're upset when the alligator takes their hand or arm off@@lornalewis9798
@@nonnadialledo they enforce the rules?
@@Golden1989-days The touching was even worse today, 8/11, (in the afternoon, at least).
There is zero consistancy when it comes to touching the horses. Some guards don't allow, while others do. It needs to be fully informed across the board that nobody touches the horses. Even that one horse was pushing people back. Yes it's bothersome to yell at everyone, but rules are rules. I think each guard should have a cop beside them to inforce the no touching. Maybe then people would eventually get the hint.
If no guard is used, then Commanding officers need to make sure all troopers help enforce the rule.
In the military is where you learn to yell strongly.
Travel Companies are going to have to stop saying, come to Horse Guards and pat the horses, no longer an options
Good.
From the US, that's right call it like you see if our visitors to your country can't follow the rules call them out and shame on them.
Leave it to those entitled spoiled cretins to sully America's name. So tired of it. Respect is less and less common.
I swear if I were there, I'd probably yell out "Can't you read the signs, DON'T TOUCH THE HORSE!". Then they'd take me away.😉😁
I'm American, their American. I can read the sign, they can read the sign. It's not in a foreign language they don't understand.
There, I said it, if other Yanks don't like it, ohhhhh well. Learn to read the sign that is in English and obey the sign.
@@jenniferrandolph4115me too, lol.
It is hard not to tough the horse, if the horse rubs on you 😂
I have second hand embarrassment by those fellow countrymen. Unbelievable.
I am American and can tell you we have our share of really rude people. So much so we’ve given them a name, KAREN.
Right
No consistency, management who make the rules, should tell the guards whichever regiment they are, should follow the rules and stop everyone from touching the horses or take the signs down. Pointless having rule if it's not enforced by all.
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Afternoon John, enjoyed your video.
I just want to say a big thank you to the Troopers, guards and everyone working at HorseGuards you do a great job under circumstances none of us work under, where everything you do is watched and is picked to pieces, you are respected and appreciated, thank you from Australia.
Now they will have to put up signs on both sides. These Horse Guards have been there for centuries and now need signs. People are crazy.
@@mustang1888 If a sign was around the neck of the horse, people would still touch. It's a game to some, rebellious (thinking challenge accepted) and entitlement of others. Just a little personal observation of too much time on the Internet. 😆
agree
The Don’t touch the Horse signs need to be higher, there needs to be one each side of each box, and the rule needs to be enforced
you are right😂 one side of box is doing nothing on the other side signs the box is open so Now they stand and lean ON the horse they then can SAY I DID NOT TOUCH THE HORSE 😂 I DID NOT TOUCH THE HORSE HE TOUCH ME
WHY didn’t the trooper speak to the two Americans. Disrespectful! I apologize again for these people. Scituate Massachusetts USA
Excellent as always John but what is the point of the signs if the Horse Guards are not gong to enforce them?
I dont understand why the guards are not enforcing the signs, people arent gonna quit touching the horse
The Life Guards are the top tier of the British Army, the most senior of all regiments (allegedly), but I agree the Blues and Royals lead the way with the rules, reminders etc. To tourists etc., such a shame to see the life guards letting the household division down.
Regards a retired CSM
@@hcfan_aj Were you in the British military?
@@jo4vtthe CSM is a clue Company Sergeant Major I believe 🫡
@@jo4vt why?
@@hcfan_aj I was just wondering. I’m in awe of the British military now, and it is impressive to have some in the comment section. I realized after I asked you’re probably from Canada, based on your profile picture.
@annieg5487 it is and is common across the commonwealth nations for WO2, but don't salute us lol we're not commissioned buy have a warrant, but by lower ranks called sir or ma'am.
Good morning John: had a really great discussion with another member yesterday about the signage etc. It really is a Catch 22 situation. 1) This is a Heritage Site. What is required to add additional signage? Does the MOD have to request permission from a Heritage Conservation Org., or can they decide themselves what signage to post and how many? 2) Troopers not enforcing the rule, (unfortunately it seems to be HCAV more than B&R).
She stated, and I agree, "even if there were signs everywhere and flashing neon, some tourists would ignore it all anyway".
Proof in you video today - lady in the lime green sweater (Korean?) and the US tourists (shame). What it comes down to is consistency (from the troopers saying "NO" and respect from the Tourons to understand that No means No). Let's hope that MOD sort this out, because crowds are going to grow and at some point it will become a real issue. My two cents from the other side of the pond. Thanks for showing us what really is happening at Horse Guards. Great Video. Bronx, NYC
Hi! This Heritage site stuff is a bit confusing - from what I could find the Horse guards building is on the National Heritage List, which doesn't look to have anything to do with the Heritage Conservation Org? Way too many heritage references and groups show up when googling. Would they need to get permission to even put a second nail in the wall on the opposite side to hang a second sign?
Horse Guards is a Grade 1 Listed Building , I suspect permission would have to be applied for and granted first before any changes to putting up extra signs and how signs were made , they must be in keeping with the history . A work in progress imho .
Well said.
@@kathellison8084thank you. It is confusing to say the least. Hope it can be sorted out, not only for the sake of the horses, but to give the troopers a sense of responsibility to say “Don’t Touch my Horse”.
@@BarrettLily It was worse today, but consistent. The consistency was that no guard said anything and they let everyone touch the horses.
Just started watching this and in the past 2 weeks I've been watching... I realized that tourists are so so disrespectful
So glad they made people stop touching the horses. Wish they would enforce it tho.
I don't know but perhaps orders from the King. The guards will do what they are instructed to do.
I have to say we have a lot of entitled people here too. Some of us still have common sense and good manners.
I am from USA and visited London years ago and always respected r the guards by not touching horses ... don't understand the disrespect.
Me either and it’s horribly embarrassing the way some Americans behave. As a southerner, someone would be getting a “come to Jesus” talk. 😂
It is more a sense of entitlement, believing the rules are for others and not themselves.
Just like in uk this is the entitled generation
Where is that great police woman when you need her. She would have stopped all of that touching of the horse real quick. I am assuming they told the troopers it is up to them to tell tourist to not touch the horse too since some do and some don't. Mixed signals. Thanks for your always great videos which I really needed this weekend since one of my toy poodles passed Friday.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I have lost animals too through the years. Please take care of yourself.
As a US citizen I was very upset with US tourists😖! No excuse for their behavior! Granted the sign was on the other side but they had to have seen it when approaching they Gate Box!
I lived in the states 4 awhile
Super Entitled Boorish crew.
I feel 4 the well mannered Brits + the Horses
@@renatatarnawski5974oh so you think Americans are all that way! Don’t criticize all because of a few that you knew. There’s entitled people all over the world.
@@stacy5445 Her husband could see the sign when he was taking her picture.
I do not disagree with your comment regarding location of the signs. However some visitors have not heard of the saying "If it doesn't belong to you leave it alone. RESPECT does not require a sign.
Now that’s an international sign!!! Paint. Red box from left to right and no crossing the line !!
I noticed several people in videos putting their hands over the horses nostrils. I guess they don't know that horses aren't mouth breathers. Could cause horse to panic. Another reason to not touch the horses. Just my opinion.
The guard needs to be more vocal and let these tourons know they mean business by the signs.
The new sign of the horse needs to be an actual picture of a horse. Incorporate both signs into one large sign.
Have to enforce the no touching better
Some soldiers are weak and oblivious, I prefer those who, at the first touch, shout and order them to stay away.
That is the fault of the person sitting on the horse for not enforcing it.
C’est aussi la faute du soldat…… assis ( remarquez ,pour gérer un cheval ,vaut mieux être assis,qu’à genoux !!!! 🧐 .) c’est aussi sa faute ,s’il y a autant d’abrutis ??? Gardes gardez votre courage, vous êtes estimés par beaucoup de personnes , vus les commentaires,c’est rassurant . Courage . Monique 🇫🇷
The 'person sitting on the horse' is a king guard, not any old Joe Blow! They are serving officers who have seen active duty, and they don't need to be disrespected, thank you.
6:08 the guard shook her head and said no but the woman still pawed the horse 🤦♀️
Yup why bother even asking entitled idiot
She should have shouted at her, shamed her in public!
I often wonder how many tourists get separated or lost from their group, some appear to be so gormless and unaware of their surroundings!
Good morning, John
Although I have just started the video, but a US citizen, please accept my apologies for those 2 idiots. 😡
Have a great afternoon.
From Maryland USA
You don’t need to apologize for grown adults who travel and are rude everywhere they go. That’s on them! It does make others form an opinion that all people from that country are the same. You can tell decent folks from evil ones.
@@jenniferrandolph4115 It is embarrassing for the USA but it seems people aren't ashamed of their actions anymore. If I misbehaved as a child my mom would point out other people were watching me be ugly. I didn't want that so I stopped and usually I got in trouble for my actions when I got home. Until there are consequences people will keep breaking rules. :(
@@kathyjones285 exactly 💯 there's no accountability these days, everyone thinks they're more special than everyone else!
John they have got to have clearer signs and on both side, STAND WELL BACK DONT TOUCH THE HORSE might do it and the guards have got to be more vocal
That number on the left is a 5 John ! Thank you once again for spending your time at Horseguards for us ! I so enjoy your rhetoric and people watching is my favourite pastime although difficult for me now as I am housebound and you enable me to live vicariously through your lens so , many many thanks for your acerbic wit that has me chuckling out aloud gaining me some very dodgy looks from my wife 😜 lol ! ❤❤
The troopers on the horses should say don't touch the horses also standing so close to the horses is asking for trouble
Love your laugh John! Always watch London City Walks everyday. I really like your information on the guards and horses! My best to you from Buffalo, New York USA.
I can’t believe this, the blues and Royals strictly do not touch the animal, but the Red lifeguards, allowing people to touch the horses and not speaking up doesn’t it kind of aggravate you that this happens I would not want my horse mold and touched all over. I don’t even like my service dog touched unless I say it’s OK I snap at people when they reach out and try to pet them, I don’t want anybody touching my animal😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
So frustrating seeing Kings Guard not enforcing the new rule.
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I’m beginning to think the guards have a real problem with the word “NO”, the vultures (Tourons) should have more consideration for the horse, it’s all wrong.
Sorry to say a lot of People here in US love to break rules. The Guards need to speak up
Hello John ❤!! i was wondering how long it would be and American fellow's should be ashamed of them selfs. I agree the Guards need to be more firm with these Tourons who think they are being clever but they are not they are being Disrespectful to our Troopers. Hope we get all this sorted and our Troopers can use their voice to their advantage. Thank you John Stay Safe ❤️❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧
Why do they let children who are fighting with each other even go up there!!
@@carolynotto2180 why let children go there on their own in the first place🤔🤔🤔
Even very small children, get bit & parents are gripping later at the soldier.@carolynotto2180
Just frustrating to see the guards not telling the "people" NO!
The signs mean nothing if it's not enforced by guards
The Lifeguards have to do as the Blues & Royals, tell people off fermly! If they don´t stand up for theire own rules, nobody will follow them!
Ils ne doivent pas parler !!!!! Sinon ……. Punition à la suite !!!!!! Renseignez vous sur le règlement des gardes . Ces cavaliers en position, est une épreuve , a l’essai pour accéder à la continuité d’être acceptés , très rigoureux ,respect pour eux ! Monique 🇫🇷
@@pierrerabier6388 Ja det där var ju smart, vi svarar varandra på hemspråket, och ingen förstår ett jota.
Why should the people abide by the rules...if the Guards don't? Guards are the ones who should enforce the rules...No one touches the horse....😮..safer all around....Thats why i like the Blues more....And Ormande of course...😂......🤠💪❤️🙏 For 🇬🇧💂🐎🇺🇸💋
Horseguards really have to sort themselves out. Signs need to be remade and the mixed messaging has to stop! How can you have one guard enforcing the rules and another guard just sits there without saying a word.
Hi John! I am a new subscriber as of August 19th! I find you charming, and your city just lovely. I am 78 this year and because of health, and my hubby having a stroke I can visit with you right here! I have met some of the sweetest people from England on TH-cam. One sweet lady and I would exchange gifts across the ocean. My favorite person is a single young man from Scotland who I met on TH-cam and began a true friendship. He is close to my children’s ages, and he sends me packages from Scotland, and I send from America him things too! At my age I would have never had the chance to meet the best folks from England/Scotland ….small world! I apologize for the Americans who are rude and disrespectful to your wonderful guards. It is embarrassing for me to watch that……I hate it when people annoy the horses too. The horses are working, and I hated seeing them poked at by people being thoughtless! Now the new rules will prevent it! So in closing I say thank you to the wonderful people across the pond in England. Thank you all for being so welcoming to this old American lady! Hugs to you! 🤗🇺🇸…..I will miss seeing Ormonde getting a nip in! Who knows Ormonde might still be gloriously mischievous! 😊
All of the guards need to say no touching. It needs to be more enforced. It’s
too confusing to the crowds. Why let people touch when the sign is right there saying dont touch. I think some of the guards are too shy.
Yeah these guards are terrible, us true fans that just watch TH-cam/tiktok know how to to their job better then they do right?
@@tonicaron7585 It is really bizarre to put up new signs, then have the guards allowing touching. It was even worse this afternoon than it was yesterday when John filmed. London Chronicles channel posted a video today. There was So much touching.
No, John, the biggest rule breakers today were the troopers who weren't enforcing the rules. I'm only half way through the video and I'm going to log off because I'm over it tonight and just can't finish watching the video tonight.
Well, the experiment doesn't seem to be working all that well. Some people are spending a lot of time stroking the horse and no one is telling them to back off. Such is life...
Guards are wimpy and don’t follow rules.
PLEASE dont fault the guards you dont know what ordered they were given as to say or not to say to the tourists! They may just be following orders!❤ Either way the horses are not as mauled as they were!
Service dogs wear vests that say “ Service Dog Do Not Interact “ maybe there should be a sign letting people know these are working horses not for your photo session!!
And still people want to pet a service dog.
Of course they’re there for photo sessions. The mounted guards at Horseguards are a well-known tourist attraction and promoted as such. Being photographed is part of the job.
@@cherylschantz9893 I always ask, or more likely just say you've got a lovely dog.
Dumb
20 minutes in there was an Asian tourist who had their hands all over the horses head and the trooper said nothing.
John - doesn’t this disrespect the Trooper’s CO by not saying anything? I could not believe that with the new signs, the CO would leave it up to the trooper.
As someone with severe social anxiety. I wouldnt be able to handle that crowd, i would be so overstimulated. Its like a can of sardines its so packed!
I wonder why the Lifeguards won’t enforce the rules.
They need to be like the big strong rigid blues and royals and shout and scream and charge their horses at tourists 😢
@@alexkiernan6148 Some of the Blues and Royals allowed touching.
The FAILURE of the Mounted Guards to ENFORCE the PROHIBITION SIGN is very DISAPPOINTING. How do you expect tourists to follow through & take it seriously by KEEPING MUM about it?
Shame on the guard! All she has to do is say NO! She isn’t even attempting to pull the horse away and that’s on her. Many of the other guards keep a tighter rein!
Please don't shame a Kings guard, they are all serving officers in the military and have seen active duty, there's nothing shameful about them. Maybe some of them are ok with their horse being petted. One time a person told another person not to touch the horse and the guard on the horse said they could touch his horse, as it was his horse and he makes the rules, not the public. So there's that.
Keep up your excellent videos, John. You are entertaining and educational. ❤ from Queensland
It seems that some of the guards have the attitude that "Its not my job" to keep the tourists from mauling the horse. How sad.
Yeah these guards clearly have no idea what they’re doing they should let us really proper London City Walks fans do the job instead of
@@alexkiernan6148 Are you ring facetious? I can’t tell, lol.
Thank you John for the video everyone here is your reminder you are cared about ❤
It's hard to see your video today because the sign and the picture are clear to understand. Why are people so ignorant or stupid.
You could fly an air balloon over ppl with a giant sign and some idiot would miss it. We are sometimes really really dumb.
Because they think rules don't apply to THEM!
@@dianacasey6002 You're absolutely right about that.
@@jjones4314 that's true
I don’t understand why people have to stand so freaking close to the horses!
They are too close if a horse can touch them.
Because they are ignorant
They probably want to fit themselves and the horse in the centre of a “portrait” orientation photo. People taking the picture probably can’t back up far enough to get them in, with the other crowd of people behind them (or the road). Also… animal = magnet for animal lover. The desire to be close isn’t that hard to understand, imo.
Do all these troopers know that the animals are not to be touched or hasn’t fully gone through all the ranks what do we know the sign says no touching, but she put her hands all over the horse and even put her hands under a head wrapped her arm right around around
😢😡😡😡😡😡
Some rando tourist touches the horse, and 😢If nothing is said by the Guard, everyone watching thinks it’s OKAY to touch and annoy the horse, also! Either it’s YES or NO. What is the purpose of the signs except if someone gets badly bit I guess the Horse Guards are legally protected. It’s stupid having the signs and saying nothing.🙄
IS IT PERHAPS, PUBLICITY?
The troopers should be given an order not to let anyone touch the horse. They have to follow orders.
My point exactly I’ve said this before they should be enforcing the rules and be a little tougher
NO ,these adult tourists should be able to mind their manners and READ THE SIGNS. Troopers are not there to babysit
@@barbarahendryx809 even so, they’re not all doing it
@@SpiritofaGrandmotherUnfortunately that’s not how all humans behave, following rules and laws. If this were the case, no police would be needed in the world. The troopers are responsible for taking care of their horses. Enforcing no touching is taking care of their horses.
Definitely need a sign on both sides of the horses. Why is this guard allowing people to touch?
Very disappointed that the troopers have gone silent. Blues much more on top of order. Allows guests to enjoy their visit more. Also didn’t see the COH out and about as we see with the Blues.
That's how much respect people have for the sign it's been knocked sideways from TOURONS leaning on it
54:05 It makes me sad when I see fathers shoving and dragging their clearly frightened sons in front of the horse 😞 You can see this a lot and yes, it's mostly fathers and sons.
Yes, It´s horrible!
This has nothing to do with this video , well maybe a little , I've just spent a relaxing couple of hours watching , again , the " Behind The Scenes " videos from Hyde Park Barracks and I suggest anyone who hasn't seen them , or like me going back to watch again do please watch ! It shows how hard these Troopers work and care for their horses , and yes they do care despite what some people feel ! I find myself disappointed and disheartened at some comments , telling the Troopers how they think their jobs should be done when none of us know their orders and why should we ? I could go on a rant but I won't , it's just my opinion , and we all know the saying about opinions. 😀. Relax , forget about tourists , settle down with a cuppa ( or whatever your choice of beverage ) and go back Behind the Scenes for some fun and enjoyment 😀 Have a good day everyone 😊
@kathellison8084 I absolutely agree with you 👍🏻
@@barbarahendryx809 But you’re still watching his channel. Why ? Just to complain ?
A spoken word of NO, nein, non, and a sideways shake of head should be said with each touch. I believe would be universally understood.
Another great watch John. The police do a great job keeping the public safe, and giving the horses and Guards room to maneuver. Thank you: Kiwi
I've noticed that when the nice Female Police Officer isn't on duty the other police officers are in the yard chit chatting and not paying attention to what's going on out the front
the Life Guards need to bring out Rarden more frequently.
Why did the Guard let that couple touch like that? He was watching them too, so I think it’s been left to the discretion of the Guard based on the temperament of each particular horse. Also, here in CA we don’t touch mounted patrol officers unless we ask first so I’m not sure where that couple was from 🤷♀️
The signs have made a huge difference ,but the guards have got to react,because if one person gets away with touching ,they all follow .I,respect the guards ,and don't like to moan about them /
That’s why they need two signs!! That may or not work but at least give it a try.
I agree completely
Why don’t the guards shout at them
I can’t watch this disregard of the laws by these wimpy guards who won’t make people obey. I’m signing off.
Yes this is the LAW!!! It’s definitely not just a sign that is not enforceable at all 😂 foolish wimpy guards ay serving their country and getting hammered on social media
John the Trooper said no and she still touched the horse, what part of no are they not understanding
@@JoanMinchew-it1lz After trooper says no them next should be a shout! People will continue if no consequences for their actions. People aren't ashamed of their actions anymore.
The guards should say something.But not all of them do.
They need sign both sides and that guard should open his mouth no good putting sign up if he just sits there and allows idiots who can't read touch the horse waste of time
The extra special care the guards take when children are around is amazing. The guards have to be 'on' 100%. Great job! If I could I'd buy them all a beer.
COME ON YOU TOP. BRASS, make your minds up touch or not to touch,Blues&Royals say NO,while the Life Guards say YES, it's rediculous.
If visiting, just make sure you go on the day the Lifeguards are working, and you'll be allowed to do what you'd like with the horses! Pet them, hug them, kiss them, etc..... Why do they not enforce a very easy "rule"? They just sit there like bumps on a log, and don't reprimand anyone that molests the horses! Unless and until there are guards posted that follow the rule themselves, nothing will change!
Yes life guards are horrible, we need our blues and our favourite ormonde 🤪
Looks like the troopers are asleep. If one tourist sees touching they all will follow suit. What good are signs if they don't enforce them. I saw the lady police officer last week telling tourist not to touch the horse but the trooper did nothing after. I hope they'll start enforcing the signs soon.
The NEW sign should be on the other wall at above Head height as in its present position it is hidden nearly all the time by tourists standing in front of it and I believe all the Troopers and Police should informed the New Rules without exception.
What is the point of the signs if people are still touching the horses ,and the troopers don't enforce it by telling them not touch their horses ,they need to stop them touching their horses .
Total disgust with the mounted guards in both boxes. Tourists continue to ignore the signs and the guards don't open their mouth. The signs on the right box are hanging sloppy and nothing being done to fix them. Is this what the King's protection is like? Just completely careless and very sloppy and the guards siut there with crazy glue on their lips. And don't tell me they are told not to say anything, because there are a couple of guards that do their job correctly. Can't watch this drivel any longer. And don't bother trying to be cool and snapping back at me because I won't be here to see any crapola.
The horses seem more relaxed now that the tourons are not mauling them.
@@maryschleifer7082
100% agree.
A couple of them seem to miss the attention. There are always a few horses that love being the center of attention. The one with the small blaze seems to be one. Maybe that is why the guard allows a bit more touching.
@@kathym8223
But it must be one rule for all and the same for all.
How on earth does the next person watching TH-cam know not to touch “the main man” before she gets lifted in the air?
There is no doubt at all that the horses are way more quiet and relaxed with the mob keeping their distance and allowing the horses to do their job.
For me, the horse’s overall welfare must be the priority over “one horse maybe liking a stroke”.
Remember, the horses are not being abandoned. They are standing on duty for 60 minutes only.
@user-fg6kg1dn7w I agree. The welfare of the many outweighs the welfare of a few. Sorry, I'm watching Star Trek.
@@Golden1989-days oh I agree it is better for all to not be mobbed and touched. But there seems to be a bit of leeway if the horse reaches out first. That seems to be the difference I see. If you are a very outgoing person and one day you walk into work and no one speaks to you it would be jarring. We understand why, they do not. A sudden change can cause behavior issues. These horses are greatly cared for and the guards understand what they need.
Hi John, nice to see you today. Do you think signs are needed both sides.? It’s very noticeable how chilled by and large the horses are now. But, bring back the amazing Armonde.
Shame on the guards. They need to show respect to their mount by speaking up when a tourist touches it. These guards are very apathetic compared to the blues and royals. Love your videos and the running commentary, thankyou John.
Get a grip,😊
They seem so meek and timid. Just letting the tourons be in control.
Shame on them ? Leave your disgusting comments to yourself 😡
Fans of this account are supposed to be fans of the household cavalry but all they ever do is critic hard working troopers
There are signs up, to keep the public safe and to help not stress the horses. If some troopers don’t agree, perhaps they should tell their commanding officer why. Everyone appreciates the troopers’ service but rules aren’t supposed to be ignored. Even if no one was filming and uploading videos and people are able to comment, the same thing applies and would be noticed by visitors who don’t, ignore sensible and obvious rules.
The signs will only work IF the Guards back it up by saying DON"T TOUCH THE HORSE!
Yet again it is the Reds that are letting them get away with it, until the horse is the one to tell them to back off!
the new sign changing the Rule to not touching the horse has been up for almost 2 weeks - every army trooper is required to follow the Rules whether he/she likes them or not - whomever fails to enforce this Rule displays the highest level of disrespect, and his/her commanding officer should remove him/her from ceremonial duty and have him/her returned to active military duty -
It is so frustrating to see the tourists are still touching the horses and the King's Guards don't tell them NO TOUCHING. Of course the tourists will touch since other people don't get told.
Tourists see now if you stand really close to the horse, the horse will nuzzle you which gives you the excuse to touch the horse. As usual, the guards say nothing and other tourists feel they can touch the horse, nothing will happen.
If the trooper isn’t going to stop the mauling of the horse then the signs should be taken down.