How to get ahead early against all Protosses below 6000 MMR

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  • Here is the much requested 12Pool Guide to round out the ZvP Week!
    If anything remains unclear please let me know in the comments: )
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    #Lambo #12PoolGuide #ZvP

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  • @KW-ju2tl
    @KW-ju2tl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    As a zerg player I really cannot appreciate this man more, so many high quality contents produced at a such fast rate

    • @davidrice3258
      @davidrice3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know this is so much better than winter just yelling ‘ build 80 drones!!!” Hahaha

    • @You-ul8qw
      @You-ul8qw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, there is harstem for toss, but there wasn't really anyone to make youtube videos with the quality and knowledge of harstem for the other races. This stuff is great, makes me so so so so so so much better at SC2.

  • @NeuroZerg
    @NeuroZerg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    This title is such a clever roast, lol'd irl. Take this upvote!

  • @childplease739
    @childplease739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lambo released this on Valentines day bc he knows how much we love to f Protoss

  • @hunterbauer4320
    @hunterbauer4320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    this build just got me into masters for the first time after 11 years and 14k games played :)

    • @asipalacios8701
      @asipalacios8701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ok buddy im gonna try that too im diamond zerg

  • @AlexScorpionVn
    @AlexScorpionVn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the ZvP week!

  • @iplay110
    @iplay110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for your efforts, these videos are all amazing.
    ZvT week next :D?

  • @dominantvth2301
    @dominantvth2301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the content. You take the game analysis of what you see/scout to what your opponent can or can't be doing to whole different level!

  • @OliverArchive
    @OliverArchive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic video. You are just so good at explaining this stuff. Do you think you will make content again? It's really not quite the same without you!

  • @breddygud6890
    @breddygud6890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is such a strong build almost all the way up the ladder but in my experience it's especially strong in the lower leagues, gold and plat where I am. My mmr spiked immediately and I straight up kill maybe one out of four protoss.

  • @321cab96
    @321cab96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    (this is for me not the full guide if you want more watch the video)
    12 pool
    3 drones after
    14 overlord
    @100% pool 3 lings pairs and queen leave with a drone at 1:06 if you get the hatch cancel the queen and expand if not attack the probe
    2 more ling pairs if pylon block kill is asap and get the hatch before leaving with lings
    execution: hit the most exposed building with lings and keep some on opposite side to attack zealots if they try to defend
    vs 1 gate be aggressive and vs 2 gate dont let any lings die

  • @ariepranasakti6372
    @ariepranasakti6372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video is a clickbait, the title said it works below 6k MMR, but in the video it can also work above 6k MMR, lies!

    • @xerxesllabore
      @xerxesllabore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is assuming you can execute it well ... if you did not make a mistake at macro behind and have an awesome micro up front, you can be ahead of players above 6K MMR ....

  • @evanrosz
    @evanrosz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome content as usual. Thanks, Lambo!

  • @AlexScorpionVn
    @AlexScorpionVn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worked wonders for me. Got me back to basics and improv

  • @danielleweickert9685
    @danielleweickert9685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I know you guys by now..." lol

  • @alexk8742
    @alexk8742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Usually I got 2 hotkeys for queens. one for creep queens one for inject queens. with this oracle defense (having 2 queens at each base+creeping and injecting) i struggle with coordination and hotkeys. any tips?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You can also just move them reactively with the mouse in that case, but the queens after the first 6 minutes or so can become inject queens (the 3 from the main) and creep queens (the 3 from the 3rd) so it transitions very naturally into that hotkey setup for midgame. So maybe you can just try it for a week or so and see how it feels.

  • @patman2193
    @patman2193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the best sc2 content I've ever seen

  • @ACMFORALL
    @ACMFORALL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's here at last!!! Thanks Lambo

  • @Dimedichi
    @Dimedichi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever I do this, protoss is ahead about 4 workers right after the adept spawns and I'm hopelessly behind. My execution ist exactly as in the video and I'm constantly producing drones. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

  • @martinbrelum6583
    @martinbrelum6583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Decide your mind lambo! in thumbnail it says 6400 and in title 6000!
    but props to you, good video. 5 out 5 lamps from me

  • @snowdrop9810
    @snowdrop9810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Basically, this means how to win 1 mmr for you?

  • @bjovers1
    @bjovers1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! I barely have brainpower to manage my zerglings so nothing would really happen in my base while microing those lings 😅👌

  • @matespider
    @matespider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you this is great. I can 12 pool people now and say I am macro player!

  • @kristianasheim5671
    @kristianasheim5671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    now this is good stuff

  • @conradvonbruno2917
    @conradvonbruno2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to the new ladder Protoss!

  • @axh2
    @axh2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, if I understand correctly, it works on pro-gamers because that messes-up with their normal build order, and small mistakes add up. On my level small mistakes also add-up... but you often make a huge mistake that multiply your whole advantage by zero.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it will mess up casual players much more than pro gamers, since pros have all played against 12pool hundreds of times. But having momentum on your side on a lowerlevel and dictating the game (not letting the opponent play the game he wanted to in the loading screen) is very valuable. 12Pool works on every level, arguably better on lower mmr because you can have more practice with it than your opponents against it, and because there's a big chance your opponent just dies aswell.

  • @MildSe7enX
    @MildSe7enX ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool games! I'll try to copy that)

  • @LucidEd
    @LucidEd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's what I'm talking about

  • @someguy7474
    @someguy7474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you think about making a proxy hatch at the protoss wall in a spot where you complete the full wall so you can target one of the buildings with your lings for free?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats a fine strategy to try, it can work very well if the protoss doesn't know the correct response. However if he does, you are entirely dead whereas with the normal 12pool you are always about even in the worst case scenarios!

  • @macros3001
    @macros3001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lambo more and more mindhunting us low league Pepegs, very nice.

  • @kalujny
    @kalujny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rocking it dude! You`ll beat Harstem on subscribers in no time!

    • @Iddy267
      @Iddy267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not about beating people in subscribers, its more about appealing to the game and increasing the chances of people playing it as it is a pretty old game. And harstem/neuro/lambo (just to name a few) are a couple of streamers/youtubers who are making good progress in this. Just dont put them up against eachother like you did in this comment cuz it is triggering thanks :)

  • @QuirinHaslinger
    @QuirinHaslinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! keep up the amazing content!

  • @bigfatemails
    @bigfatemails 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was already 12 pooling, but terribly lol

  • @tatotato85
    @tatotato85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyvm professor Lambo

  • @BlackwidowGG
    @BlackwidowGG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff, i noticed you catagorized the vid on StarCraft and not Starcraft 2. Probably good to have it on sc2 for the algorithm. Other than that, if you notice you can kill the cyber if you commit for it, is it ever worth losing most/all of your zerglings over?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You shouldn't lose all your zerglings for it, since he then can still come across the map with double zealot double adept and you need to remake all of them. I think people overvalue the cybercore in this situation because toss can't start tech right away anyways it really just delays everything very slightly.

  • @AudreyandmeAu
    @AudreyandmeAu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @Amoeby
    @Amoeby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good build! Shows zerg's superiority in ZvP cause even a cheese is a macro opening.

  • @josesuch4962
    @josesuch4962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm having a hard time with protoss right now specially with their early void ray that's why I'm here

  • @Supsup516
    @Supsup516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love you thanks

  • @panxogantz4945
    @panxogantz4945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would one time the german taxi as a transition from this?

  • @tonyc_618
    @tonyc_618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ty so much for this. Could you do this for standard builds please?

    • @IntetDreamer
      @IntetDreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh boy, do I have some news for you.

  • @LC-wv4xi
    @LC-wv4xi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I have been trying this and really like it. One question if you still check this channel, if the Protoss pulls like 10+ probes is it good to fight al kill probes and lose lings? Or should i just kite back and then go back to attacking the buildings? So far I have just amoved into the probes and still feel ahead but not sure if it is the best thing to do.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it depends on the exact fights, just probed vs lings is usually gonna be good for you? if its 10 probes + a zealot or two it would most likely be better to kite and try to waste as much mining time as possible

    • @LC-wv4xi
      @LC-wv4xi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LamboSC2 Thanks for replying! That makes sense

  • @ToTheNines87368
    @ToTheNines87368 ปีที่แล้ว

    In diamond league you’d be surprised how many Protoss still go for some hidden tech or one base shenanigans.

    • @PunjabiGora
      @PunjabiGora 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bro I'm diamond 3 and they do cannon rush into void ray every game , I'm feeling frustrated, even when you win vs cannon rush it's not even fun because you feel like they handicapped themselves or something, sucks.

  • @justmike3119
    @justmike3119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    leaving a comment for engagement :)

  • @bjovers1
    @bjovers1 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about forge response? What should be the followup?

  • @Erockin820
    @Erockin820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yessssssssss

  • @dyingjdmheartshelter839
    @dyingjdmheartshelter839 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Still have question. Why zerg players have to hide overlords? Just looking for the reason of that as Ive never seen someone hidding it on ladder. Even though I play more than 6 years.

    • @michaeldavisdm1
      @michaeldavisdm1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because they can get you really good scouting information and with that you can have a tech advance response from what you opponent is doing. And if they catch you and you don't get the intel, then its 100 minerals down the drain and a possible supply block

  • @hoff36
    @hoff36 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ty ty ty

  • @Fallenger
    @Fallenger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ламбыч, спасибо за объяснение мелочей, о которых я и не догадывался !

    • @dyingjdmheartshelter839
      @dyingjdmheartshelter839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      звичайно, він зрозумів, що тут написано.

  • @malin2677
    @malin2677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx

  • @addtyu6176
    @addtyu6176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is your english so good? Which country you from?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am from Germany, and mostly learned english by watching american tv series.

    • @addtyu6176
      @addtyu6176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LamboSC2 Wow, it really sounds almost native.... I've heard enough German Accent to tell the huge difference... You should be a caster in the future

    • @xs0ulLess
      @xs0ulLess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@addtyu6176 i think the German-ness is quite apparent, his English is good nonetheless

  • @ToeMass123
    @ToeMass123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @namehere4285
    @namehere4285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does this do vs harstem tho

    • @CapitanTavish
      @CapitanTavish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can’t 12 pool is shit, and I’m master toss that didn’t lose to a 12 pool since game day one lol

    • @CapitanTavish
      @CapitanTavish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, if I’m in the mood I wall in the high round and Zerg is so dead twice and trice so bad if 12 pool me

  • @darksamoth9052
    @darksamoth9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh not PAPI xD

  • @patgrady
    @patgrady ปีที่แล้ว

    you show up a 2:00 with zergs... with a canon waiting. build is done. not sure why GMs don't build canons, but this simply doesn't work in lower ranks. there will always be a canon

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if there's a cannon there's no pressure from the toss for a very long time and you're ahead by default. That's why forge is not a response on high level unless they planned on going nexus first and don't have a gateway to begin with!
      12 Pool actually is something many zergs play to counter forge first cannonrushers :)

  • @MrOceansEleven
    @MrOceansEleven ปีที่แล้ว

    Still works ?:D

  • @CapitanTavish
    @CapitanTavish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In your second game, if he would go across the map 2 adept 2 zealot with stalker guarding back door you would be so dead

  • @juliabislimi599
    @juliabislimi599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mach Mal bitte ein Video auf deutsch

  • @godlessandmasterless
    @godlessandmasterless 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not understanding this at all.

  • @ImakeTanks
    @ImakeTanks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SC2 LOTV feels like a Moba tower defense arcade mode game compared to Wings of Liberty and HOTS sc2 RTS game play. They killed the early game with 12 worker start less mineral gas per base and adding extra speed to every single unit in the game including overlords now. This is why everyone quit sc2 and most Korean sc2 pros went back to sc1, because sc2 lotv sucks, Blizzard killed the game and everyone quit. If they reverted the game back to Wings of Liberty people would come back and play it again. Wings of Liberty use have millions of players and it had more viewers than League of legends on Twitch. Everyone hates LOTV, besides some of the new people that don't know any better.

  • @snuffsonic23
    @snuffsonic23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    stop 12 pooling please its boring to play against
    promise I wont make void rays if you dont 12 pool

    • @AndiDMC
      @AndiDMC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whats your league and ingame Name? :D Rest of toss guys gets 12 pooled for sure!