Idea for Then We Fight- only three rounds of picking starters, but you choose how many pokemon you're taking, either 1, 2 or 3, and no repeat amounts to allow for six pokemon total. For example, you could take a Gastrodon and Scolipede round 1, only a Palafin round 2, and a Zamazenta, Wigglytuff, and Bellibolt round 3.
@@yyqxxk8178apparently. It makes no sense to me. I saw a comment on one of the other TWF channels, and the commenter said they'd watch videos of the picks, or them running around catching mons. They're 100% missing out on some crazy battles.
This was a cool idea. I think an interesting way to expand on it would be to require that the boss Pokémon has one major weakness, like how a lot of video game bosses do. Then the opponent has to try to figure out the weakness during the battle.
@@B_Marsh92Something I didn't realize until very recently is that Fluffy doesn't actually halve physical damage, it halves the damage of contact moves, so there are a few different physical moves that aren't contact like Bulldoze or Earthquake that really aren't affected by Fluffy
@@earthbloodelf5289, conversely, there are some Fire moves that are affected negatively by Fluffy...this means a Water/Dragon with Fluffy still quad-resists a Fire move that makes contact (Fire contact moves deal normal damage against a Fluffy target, then you figure in weaknesses/resistances).
I feel like it would be better to make your worst pokemon a boss to get the most gains out if it. A legendary being made into a boss isn't as beneficial because it doesn't improve as much.
It doesn't need to improve as much, though...a boss-version Mew is always going to have higher stats than a boss-version Volbeat. If they pushed all the non-HP stats to 999, everything would be on nearly equal footing...but they're still limited by the base stats of the Pokémon (they applied 31 IVs and 252 EVs to each stat to bump them to their natural maximum, affected by nature as normal).
@@Dbasty6, I feel like the Huge/Pure Power thing ends up being blocked by the general style of ability selection (throughout the whole group)...by rolling and drafting, it's almost impossible to end up with both of those abilities (or a duplicate ability) and I'd figure that, should the stars align and someone ends up with both, they'd invoke the "One Huge/Pure Power per team" ruling.
What Dbasty said. I think Shady even mentioned something about him wanting to make Tauros just huge power/extreme speed, but that was off the table, so Pat probably disallowed some abilities.
The thing about set-up mons as bosses is that they're all about finding an opportunity to set up, being bosses just gives them more opportunities, so once one is set up the other one doesn't feel like a boss anymore. Hilarious that the fully set up Iron Crown got so unlucky though.
What I love about Patterz is instead of focusing on fusions , customs etc he focuses on best ideas in the original game . Dylan also works on mods ....
All these RNG shenanigans makes me want to see a battle with the least potential RNG, like only using 100% accuracy moves or moves that can't miss and don’t have additional secondary effects unless they’re guaranteed (like flower gift always critting), no inflicting status that has RNG mechanics to it like Paralysis and Sleep, stuff like that. So basically the only RNG involved is damage range, the chance to crit, and of course the luck you get with the randomized starters
Pat! Video idea! You and your opponent pick random starters and have 3 battles, normal moves and abilities If one of you win a round out of 3 you can choose a ability or move for one of your mons and the opponent has to re choose their team Or get a debuff chosen for them honestly this can be two separate ideas but I thought of them after you explained this videos premise
When I was hearing the concept, I thought to myself that Shady would be a great guest for this one for some reason. Glad to see ShadyP in there! Banger content as always
A really solid idea for then we battle video You give your opponent 2truth and 1 lie..but here is the catch......if your opponent couldn't figure out which one is the lie and end up choosing it... They get the mon you said to them (example-lied and said lechonk over arceus if they can't guess the lie and choose the lie mon they get lechonk not arceus) and if they guess it right they get to choose the actual mon(from above example arceus) This will also create tension for the liar to not lie bout something broken and also not dogwater so that I won't be obvious for their opponent
Challenge Idea: Counter pick. Each trainer picks any 3 pokémon no repeats. You take turns telling your opponent what pokemon you have chosen. That pokemon has normal ability and normal moves. Your opponent picks any pokemon with a BST of less than 450 but they can pick any ability and one move to conter that pokemon. Take in turns doing above until both have 6 pokemon. 3 regular ability and 3 counter picks.
You always have really amazing videos Patterz and love watching them! I also really enjoy the people you collab with and looked up to them for a long time! Hope you keep creating more! 😄
To be fair, Ash's hoard of Tauros is because he didn't want to seperate the herd when he encountered them in the Safari Zone so he just...captured them all.
Whenever a Patterz video has some weird Game Master mechanics, I’m like hey it’s gonna be Shady Also watching Patterz melt into Kaiba after losing to Yugi when boss watcher went down was priceless
@shadypenguinn - yall should do a lets battle where you have 6 rounds of randomized starters ; best of 3 ; you pick which of the 3 mons is on team 1, team 2, team 3 and can only use each team once for each fight. This would use all 18 mons that get randomized and potentially make hilarious team comps for a best of 3
I'm pretty sure every instance of good luck for Shady for the year of 2024 got used in that second battle. The next "then we fight" is gonna be a best of 3 and Shady is gonna lose 4 times somehow
Was I the only one completely flabbergasted by how freaking GINORMOUS Araquanid is at 2:54. I thought it was an anklebiter, or no bigger than eevee. Now imagine the totem Araquanid from sun and moon😳😳
I'm a huge Patterrz fan, but an even HUGER fan of hitting the like button.
Wow, imagine not being a fan of subscribing and becoming a member😒
Seeing a Joelton named Mayhem brings back so many memories!
That Crit gonna live rent-free in Patterz mind for while.
Where was the Tauros???
Do you want to know what I'm the biggest fan of? Tera normal Silk Scarf Tauros with no normal moves, certainly an interesting build 😜
Its so poetic that Tauros got dragged through the entire video and never even got used 😭 Shady’s luck in the 2nd battle was crazyy
Tauros gave him that luck though.
I've never seen Shady have anything luck based go his way and then we fights
@@zodkip3147 All heil, Tauros!
I am also surprised he didn't give it a Booster Energy since he had Quark Drive instead of the Life Orb.
I love how the guy who jokes about “beating the horse of Then We Fight” is the one bringing out some of the more unique ideas.
Yeah he’s always coming up with new stuff.
Ya but he did do anything with the idea like you can make any pokemon busted but only chose legends
@@mochoman312games2
I was literally typing out "Shady is a pitcher, he just loves to throw"... WHEN HE POPPED OFF WITH THAT FULL PARA CALL!!!!
Shady using an entire year's worth of luck in that second battle lmao
That calm mind/ sucker punch, into a full para was diabolical lmao
And then he called the crit on the iron crown. He was getting so lucky in the second battle
Idea for Then We Fight- only three rounds of picking starters, but you choose how many pokemon you're taking, either 1, 2 or 3, and no repeat amounts to allow for six pokemon total. For example, you could take a Gastrodon and Scolipede round 1, only a Palafin round 2, and a Zamazenta, Wigglytuff, and Bellibolt round 3.
Hope they see this one. Great idea.
@@IAmMindBandit Thanks! :)
nah
Silk scarf, normal Tera and no normal type moves 😂
I didn't even notice 😂
and he said he was gonna cook 😂
Awkward
@@CarlosThadeuhe’s a Brit, obviously he forgot the spices
@@gameinsane4718 💀
I know a lot of people don’t watch the battles, but they’re missing out. The insane things that happen during the battles make these videos 10/10.
This video is just different. Second game was crazy.
@@yyqxxk8178 Yep. According to Patterrz, a lot of people click off the video once the battle starts. I’ve seen loads of people comment it as well.
@@yyqxxk8178apparently. It makes no sense to me.
I saw a comment on one of the other TWF channels, and the commenter said they'd watch videos of the picks, or them running around catching mons. They're 100% missing out on some crazy battles.
Does people really skip the battles?
I legit skip to the Battles, to see what they Build without watchimg Team Recaps and stuff
I can’t see a Registeel without calling it “Gurphy.” Thanks for that, Frank. 😂
GURPHY, I'm with yah lmao
GURPHY
Shady: *says he is gonna cook with Tauros*
Also shady: *makes it silk scarf, normal tera... no normal moves*
😂
He explained why he ended up with it like that...
Should've picked explosion as the illegal move
This was a cool idea. I think an interesting way to expand on it would be to require that the boss Pokémon has one major weakness, like how a lot of video game bosses do. Then the opponent has to try to figure out the weakness during the battle.
Using an ability like Fluffy could be good. Defense doubled, but weak to fire
To be honest, this idea is somewhat similar to what Dylan is doing with his generational monstrosities...
@@B_Marsh92Something I didn't realize until very recently is that Fluffy doesn't actually halve physical damage, it halves the damage of contact moves, so there are a few different physical moves that aren't contact like Bulldoze or Earthquake that really aren't affected by Fluffy
@@earthbloodelf5289, conversely, there are some Fire moves that are affected negatively by Fluffy...this means a Water/Dragon with Fluffy still quad-resists a Fire move that makes contact (Fire contact moves deal normal damage against a Fluffy target, then you figure in weaknesses/resistances).
I feel like it would be better to make your worst pokemon a boss to get the most gains out if it. A legendary being made into a boss isn't as beneficial because it doesn't improve as much.
Or anything with close combat/draco meteor to give it contrary
The latias swept
The issue is not knowing what you'll get in advance
It doesn't need to improve as much, though...a boss-version Mew is always going to have higher stats than a boss-version Volbeat. If they pushed all the non-HP stats to 999, everything would be on nearly equal footing...but they're still limited by the base stats of the Pokémon (they applied 31 IVs and 252 EVs to each stat to bump them to their natural maximum, affected by nature as normal).
@@Alsebra i thought they said they were maxing the stats, so all boss pokemon would have the same stats. Guess I misunderstand what they meant
32:37 Goodness gracious! I felt that in my very bones! That was absolutely insane!!
21:00 I love Patterz sneaking very niche references/jabs 😂
Wonderguard air balloon electivire is a real toxic missed opportunity for Shady's boss 😂
Pretty sure its one of their unspoken rules to not use Wonderguard. Like how they usually limit themselves to 1 huge power/pure power in the teams.
@@Dbasty6, I feel like the Huge/Pure Power thing ends up being blocked by the general style of ability selection (throughout the whole group)...by rolling and drafting, it's almost impossible to end up with both of those abilities (or a duplicate ability) and I'd figure that, should the stars align and someone ends up with both, they'd invoke the "One Huge/Pure Power per team" ruling.
What Dbasty said. I think Shady even mentioned something about him wanting to make Tauros just huge power/extreme speed, but that was off the table, so Pat probably disallowed some abilities.
32:27 i got litteral chills from this pop off lol
Shady actually seeing the future after joking about Pat seeing the future earlier in the video is the reason he's goated
2:13 you got what? 😂😂😂
i saw you come t as he said it lol
That second battle? That has to be the most insane game of Shady’s career 🤯🤯🤯
So shady misses every first thunder ever in history
He says 'fuck it we ball', throws to the heart of the cards, and it rewards him greatly
You mean thunder wave?
@@caseyhust6186 whichever
If patterz had a boss pecharunt 😈 fairy Tera... try it.
Shady's luck was so paid in full for all the past missed t-waves😂
Shady in the second round was literally Hakari 😂
Calm minding on sp to bank on the full para after was one of the biggest plays ive ever seen
31:00 the script couldn’t be anymore perfect 😂
I've never seen Shady this lucky before. Man deserves it for once🙌
Thank you for the unique ideas, we love to see them.
This is a genius idea
Selena dying the first battle and then sweeping in the next two is hilarious
I love that Shady's Latias swept all 6 of Patterz's team on round 2 despite it not being a boss.
The thing about set-up mons as bosses is that they're all about finding an opportunity to set up, being bosses just gives them more opportunities, so once one is set up the other one doesn't feel like a boss anymore. Hilarious that the fully set up Iron Crown got so unlucky though.
That 2nd battle! The call outs got me just as hyped 😂
Never did I do a real life 'POG' , but that crit, you know which one, I pogged HAARD
This video was insane best battles I've seen in a while
What I love about Patterz is instead of focusing on fusions , customs etc he focuses on best ideas in the original game .
Dylan also works on mods ....
Shady I’ve seen you gamble 🤔 it did not go well 😂… this was a comeback 👏
All these RNG shenanigans makes me want to see a battle with the least potential RNG, like only using 100% accuracy moves or moves that can't miss and don’t have additional secondary effects unless they’re guaranteed (like flower gift always critting), no inflicting status that has RNG mechanics to it like Paralysis and Sleep, stuff like that. So basically the only RNG involved is damage range, the chance to crit, and of course the luck you get with the randomized starters
Shady just casually predicting the future in the second match is my bread and butter of the day.
The amount of hax and RNG in that second battle was amazing!
Has the most luck in pokemon ive seen:
1.Frank- 1 hp mon that activated focus band 3 times at the same battle
2.Shaddy- a para-call and crit to win
Pat! Video idea! You and your opponent pick random starters and have 3 battles, normal moves and abilities
If one of you win a round out of 3 you can choose a ability or move for one of your mons and the opponent has to re choose their team
Or get a debuff chosen for them honestly this can be two separate ideas but I thought of them after you explained this videos premise
Having these members only video is so much fun!!
Now I see the benefits of becoming a member!!
I just HAD to hit that Like Button after THAT CRIT! 🤣So much skill this game!
I guess the silk scarf didn't matter XD
Shady is the gambler class this match
That second battle was HYPE
That was an insane battle....things finally going shadys way for once haha
Shady: *predicts full para*
Me: and it's goodnight Irene!!
“Make Tauros Great Again” 100% needs to be some kind of merch. I’d definitely have that on a shirt!
I loved this! I think you should more of these with other creators, too!
When I was hearing the concept, I thought to myself that Shady would be a great guest for this one for some reason. Glad to see ShadyP in there!
Banger content as always
A really solid idea for then we battle video
You give your opponent 2truth and 1 lie..but here is the catch......if your opponent couldn't figure out which one is the lie and end up choosing it... They get the mon you said to them (example-lied and said lechonk over arceus if they can't guess the lie and choose the lie mon they get lechonk not arceus) and if they guess it right they get to choose the actual mon(from above example arceus)
This will also create tension for the liar to not lie bout something broken and also not dogwater so that I won't be obvious for their opponent
Challenge Idea: Counter pick. Each trainer picks any 3 pokémon no repeats. You take turns telling your opponent what pokemon you have chosen. That pokemon has normal ability and normal moves. Your opponent picks any pokemon with a BST of less than 450 but they can pick any ability and one move to conter that pokemon. Take in turns doing above until both have 6 pokemon. 3 regular ability and 3 counter picks.
You always have really amazing videos Patterz and love watching them! I also really enjoy the people you collab with and looked up to them for a long time! Hope you keep creating more! 😄
7:56 I agree, M.T.G.A.!!!
The signature move the others get at least was given to the OG, as a Pokémon myself I ADORE nostalgic representation and utmost care like that!!!
Shady w the silk scarf for no reason 🤣 26:41
that second battle man..... sheeeeesh !
Fun fact - Tera fairy raises the power of draining kiss from 50 to 60
That second battle was insane lol
I'll say it every time, Patterz has the best minigames
Shady popping off game 2 was insane. Well played game 2 sir!
Awesome video, awesome fights, shady knows how to create a real BOSS!!!
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Shady being lucky for once is so long overdue!
26:00 tera normal silk scarf with no normal move?
Was just about to pose the same question, lmao!
@@ExtremeXPSO also last battle no mirror coat that insane latias what else can that spider do vs latias
Why liquidation?
Every one of Urshifu's moves being NVE at the end is just icing on this Content Cake.
Patterrz said Steel/Fairy is the best typing in the game with his whole chest and I completely agree.
As an incineroar hater I am so made with his choice that round
8:27 Apparently Tinkaton is a whopping 0.7 meters tall so either so somethings definitely off with the scaling over here cos dude looks massive😅
I never ever comment on videos like ever, but i felt the need to comment and like the video solely for that second battle. WOW!
To be fair, Ash's hoard of Tauros is because he didn't want to seperate the herd when he encountered them in the Safari Zone so he just...captured them all.
That second battle was nuts!
You should do a spinoff of this where the pokemon you pick must steal a power from the other two. It can be a state, a move or ability.
MAKE TAUROS GREAT AGAIN! Also Wolfie has really put the fear of Incineroar into poketubers even though he’s complete mid in singles
The editing is so good!!😭😭😭
Patterrz: "Ash had like 20 Tauros". Me: I'm pretty sure Ash had 30 of them. Close enough though Pat. Still, mad that Ash had that many
Whenever a Patterz video has some weird Game Master mechanics, I’m like hey it’s gonna be Shady
Also watching Patterz melt into Kaiba after losing to Yugi when boss watcher went down was priceless
@shadypenguinn - yall should do a lets battle where you have 6 rounds of randomized starters ; best of 3 ; you pick which of the 3 mons is on team 1, team 2, team 3 and can only use each team once for each fight. This would use all 18 mons that get randomized and potentially make hilarious team comps for a best of 3
The best video i have watched in a while patterz u should definitely put that crit oart in your shorts
@patterrz Do this! But the bosses stats are TAKEN from 1 state of each member of the team.
How Patterz felt fighting Latias is how I feel playing Pokerogue half the time
Shady getting hit by refrigerate twice in the same week 😭😭
Ah yes, even in a video vinny isn't in we hear about his boxing, love it
I’m not even done with battle two and this is absolutely the best then we fight! Venomoth has been dethroned!
I'm pretty sure every instance of good luck for Shady for the year of 2024 got used in that second battle. The next "then we fight" is gonna be a best of 3 and Shady is gonna lose 4 times somehow
Shady’s pop off was one of legends
This video is cracked the content is as crazy as the rng
30:40 DEAR LORD IN HEAVEN SHADY WITH A METAL CHAIR OUTTA NOWHERE
It would be cool if only the weakest pokemon of a team could be the bosses. "Fear the power of my Boss Monster: VOLBEAT" would be hilarious
The Boss Tauros: uses Silk Scarf, runs no normal moves. well played?
That second battle was CRACKED
That 2nd fight was crazy!
Broooo, battle 2 was absolute peak!!!
Gotta say, after all these years of throwing, shady got 6th sense and now he became the rng mastermind.
That 2nd battle was one of the best I've seen.
Rng on shady side is it a dream 😂😂😂
The return of Havoc the Jolteon. I'm hype
This was a BEATING! Really cool video!
Was I the only one completely flabbergasted by how freaking GINORMOUS Araquanid is at 2:54. I thought it was an anklebiter, or no bigger than eevee. Now imagine the totem Araquanid from sun and moon😳😳
11:04 THE PAYOFFFF!
Me 🤯🤯
Pat never fails with those concepts in his Pokémon Videos 🙌