Here's an easier method that many bands sound like they use: 1) Pick a random number N between 1 and 8. 2) Pick a random song from Meshuggah's Nth album. So if your random number was 5, it's the number of songs on their 5th album. 3) Jump to a random minute of that song. 4) Steal the rhythm, but throw away the notes. 5) Repeat until you have enough riffs for a song.
The theory nerd in me should note that this is a polymeter not a polyrhythm. Poly rhythms are when two different time signatures are played at different tempos such that they align on every measure. Polymeter is this sort of thing where two different time signatures are played at the same tempo where they shift out of beat with each other every measure
This tutorial was very informative and I can't wait to implement some of your tips to songwriting. I really like how you put your tracking process to show some authenticity, thanks Mikko!
Yeah it's definitely not all on the first take. The point is to try and jam on top with a fake drummer to spark some new ideas. Kind of like recreating what would've happened back in the day with real drummers. :)
Thank you so much for this video, I've got back into making in the last few months from back in the Reason 2.0 era, I have zero music talent or education but I love just being able to write tunes ans this video have helped me so much thank you.
I think it goes without saying but GGD is such an insane tool for Djent writing. Even if you have zero riff ideas going in, laying down a china/snare backbeat instantly puts you into the right mindset. This video is a prime example. Making the switch from EZ soon.
Very cool! Interesting to see your workflow, it's inspiring! Do you use a DI-box or do you plug your guitar directly into a hi-z input on your interface?
This is almost exactly how I write music. Mostly I compose and arrange on guitar pro and then punch the midi drums into EZDrummer and record guitars. Sightly different tools, but same approach.
I'm not sure how to count & split up the beat. Can you do another video & explain this more in depth please. Would be much appreciated. I'm completely new to this & have no idea how it works or how to figure it out. Thanks!
@1:50 wait what??? You mean we don’t need a 15 string guitar to Djent?!! Reporting the whole IP address. He’s only using 6 strings, wait until the high table finds out about this. (The soft elevator jazz also). Inspiring video,thanks.
The guitarist of meshuggah (Friedrik Thorrendal i guess) was talking with someone about the guitar tone he was seeking. He used the world « djent » to describe it and here we are! (Not a joke)
I like the ideas and thanks very much. Just like to say though, you're into metal but listening that extremely annoying/boring hotel lobby jazz music playing at the background?(which distracted me all the way) also you said you sounded like Dream Theater but it sounded more like very similar or close to Meshuggah specially with the guitar?, which i thought you're almost getting into Catch 33 if you were to continue a bit more LoL Before i forgot i would never overlook the wider variations and possibilities which the 7 or 8 string gutiars provides and there must be reason why they prefer to use those i guess...! Thanks again 🤪🤘🤘🤘
I love Djent but i hate math.I always loose a rythm.Even if i create riff i can't remember.When drums breake pattern i am in ass.How to fucking count it?
i swear to god if i ever hear you say duhjent again bruh... you have to pretend you're at your girlfriends house while her parents are home. the d is silent...
I'm very sorry but you actually only started playing the guitar at 11:30 and up until that point just talked about the specs of your guitar and how 'random' the timing is, I mean what useful information is here? Tone? Rhythms? Technique? Harmony? Pacing? Development? This is a beginners drum programming tutorial
Who made you this guitar ? Why do you choose to avoid multiscale ? (Because you really wanted to have evertune ?) The tutorial itself is rather casual which is good for average listener. Not heavy on theoretical part nether technical side. Besides poly part. The sound you presenting is reminding me of 2010 metalcore. Mainly because nowadays playing "like this" is kinda out of fashion. People playing something like that till this very day i dont doubt that. But mostly metalcore scene is heavily shifted towards nu metal/pop/rock crossover. This means alot actually. Genre is mostly the same. I dont know how's modern day kids are affected by todays metalcore. Do they listen to that genre alot or not ? But sudden shift in metalcore sound is for sure caused by the decline in popularity of "old" style of playing. Djent just gone out of fashion. Just look at those bands/artists who adored 7/8/9 string guitars. The gone silent for some years. And now emerged playing vintage tele's and strats singing about good ol days. Time dictates. Change or perish.
Bro you are completely wrong. Bands like Invent Animate, Erra, Currents, Hollow Front, Spiritbox, and MANY more are killing it right now and they are not “silent right now”
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Here's an easier method that many bands sound like they use:
1) Pick a random number N between 1 and 8.
2) Pick a random song from Meshuggah's Nth album. So if your random number was 5, it's the number of songs on their 5th album.
3) Jump to a random minute of that song.
4) Steal the rhythm, but throw away the notes.
5) Repeat until you have enough riffs for a song.
The theory nerd in me should note that this is a polymeter not a polyrhythm. Poly rhythms are when two different time signatures are played at different tempos such that they align on every measure. Polymeter is this sort of thing where two different time signatures are played at the same tempo where they shift out of beat with each other every measure
Thanks for making that clear!
makes djent tutorial
plays jazz in background
Love riff writing tutorials and ideas. Thanks a lot Miko.
This tutorial was very informative and I can't wait to implement some of your tips to songwriting. I really like how you put your tracking process to show some authenticity, thanks Mikko!
Yeah it's definitely not all on the first take. The point is to try and jam on top with a fake drummer to spark some new ideas. Kind of like recreating what would've happened back in the day with real drummers. :)
Amazing! You taught things that can sound really complicated, but you explained It in a simple way. Thanks man!!! Nice vídeo 🤟🏽
This video is very informative. The second half is a bonus with all the fret diagrams. Very cool!
Your riffs are so catchy! Thanks for this tutorial
I love that you included the tracking part😍
always great content!
thanks!
Really interesting - thanks Mikko.
Cool system! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for this video, I've got back into making in the last few months from back in the Reason 2.0 era, I have zero music talent or education but I love just being able to write tunes ans this video have helped me so much thank you.
Nice work. This tutorial was very useful.
Thank you Mikko!!
Great vid! Lots of practical tips.
I think it goes without saying but GGD is such an insane tool for Djent writing. Even if you have zero riff ideas going in, laying down a china/snare backbeat instantly puts you into the right mindset. This video is a prime example. Making the switch from EZ soon.
Great stuff, thanks!
Definitely gave some insight into odd time signatures and how to round them off in 4/4
Really interesting approach
Thanks a lot. It will help me a lot 🙏🏻
This is a really cool method, thanks for the video!
That snare is going to be deadly in a mix!!!!!
Very cool! Interesting to see your workflow, it's inspiring! Do you use a DI-box or do you plug your guitar directly into a hi-z input on your interface?
I like the way you explain things..
That was really interesting and informative thing
Thanks sir..😊😊
This is almost exactly how I write music. Mostly I compose and arrange on guitar pro and then punch the midi drums into EZDrummer and record guitars. Sightly different tools, but same approach.
Happy to hear I'm not alone! :)
Ah yes, good old Guitar Pro 5.2
@@BenTen182 The best of versions.
I used to use GP all the time 😂. Was thinking of getting GP 8 as I've got back into guitar
Great video!
“Already it sounds like Dream Theater” LOL!
Definitely not alone, I tap-tempo stuff like that all the time! :)
That's awesome!! Phew so I'm not a weirdo and it's official.
I like the soft jazz over the heavy Djent playing
Also don't forget the ambient guitars in the background! :D
Aww man completely forgot about that wet reverb :D
Yes I can feel that “umami” effect 🤣 jokes apart it’s very interesting, I have to try. Thank you ❤
I loved it. I didn't hate it though.Power driven.TY
1)Eat lots of beans
2)You got the riffs
How’d you get your drums to sound like that, could you do a short tutorial video? I have GGD but just doesn’t hit like this video does
I always write my songs from feelings
I'm not sure how to count & split up the beat. Can you do another video & explain this more in depth please. Would be much appreciated. I'm completely new to this & have no idea how it works or how to figure it out. Thanks!
Awesome, You brought up the baritone thing. I'm not sure enough people understand lol. Lots of strings not being used on 7 -9 string guitars! 😂
Great video Bro!!! Very informative! Keep djenting! :-)
what the best tuning for djent ?
I do the same thing when I’m trying to create riffs.
What are using to get the bpm?
How’d you play that thing at 12:15
a djent tutorial with easy listening jazz in the background??? WTF
Very simple 'polyrythmic'
yeah right!! 🌚
Rakkautta jenttiin!!!
What is that guitar brand? I didn't found it googling so far?!
That's Mikko's custom-built guitar! There's a two-part series on the build process if you're interested.
-Kai
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@@mlsoundlab Cool. Thank you 🙏🏻
How to djent: Djon't.
@1:50 wait what??? You mean we don’t need a 15 string guitar to Djent?!! Reporting the whole IP address. He’s only using 6 strings, wait until the high table finds out about this. (The soft elevator jazz also). Inspiring video,thanks.
Sounds like Sevendust
What does djent mean?
Nothing I suppose. It's a current genre of progressive metal.
The guitarist of meshuggah (Friedrik Thorrendal i guess) was talking with someone about the guitar tone he was seeking. He used the world « djent » to describe it and here we are! (Not a joke)
I just make a simple beat create the song with the beat and then edit the drums once the guitars recorded
What tuning are you in bro?
G standard. :D Probably don't hear that every day.
@@mlsoundlab sounds killer
I like the ideas and thanks very much. Just like to say though, you're into metal but listening that extremely annoying/boring hotel lobby jazz music playing at the background?(which distracted me all the way) also you said you sounded like Dream Theater but it sounded more like very similar or close to Meshuggah specially with the guitar?, which i thought you're almost getting into Catch 33 if you were to continue a bit more LoL Before i forgot i would never overlook the wider variations and possibilities which the 7 or 8 string gutiars provides and there must be reason why they prefer to use those i guess...! Thanks again 🤪🤘🤘🤘
show me how to do Finnish heavy metal as you use 6 string guitar anyway
Ha - ironically I'm not sure if there's a system for that. Rip off Pantera riffs? That's probably it. :D
@@mlsoundlab nah, more like rip off Tarot and Lordi lmao
I love Djent but i hate math.I always loose a rythm.Even if i create riff i can't remember.When drums breake pattern i am in ass.How to fucking count it?
i swear to god if i ever hear you say duhjent again bruh... you have to pretend you're at your girlfriends house while her parents are home.
the d is silent...
Diminished scale...nope > arpeggio
also try djen.co
I'm very sorry but you actually only started playing the guitar at 11:30 and up until that point just talked about the specs of your guitar and how 'random' the timing is, I mean what useful information is here? Tone? Rhythms? Technique? Harmony? Pacing? Development? This is a beginners drum programming tutorial
Who made you this guitar ? Why do you choose to avoid multiscale ? (Because you really wanted to have evertune ?) The tutorial itself is rather casual which is good for average listener. Not heavy on theoretical part nether technical side. Besides poly part. The sound you presenting is reminding me of 2010 metalcore. Mainly because nowadays playing "like this" is kinda out of fashion. People playing something like that till this very day i dont doubt that. But mostly metalcore scene is heavily shifted towards nu metal/pop/rock crossover. This means alot actually. Genre is mostly the same. I dont know how's modern day kids are affected by todays metalcore. Do they listen to that genre alot or not ? But sudden shift in metalcore sound is for sure caused by the decline in popularity of "old" style of playing. Djent just gone out of fashion. Just look at those bands/artists who adored 7/8/9 string guitars. The gone silent for some years. And now emerged playing vintage tele's and strats singing about good ol days. Time dictates. Change or perish.
Bro you are completely wrong. Bands like Invent Animate, Erra, Currents, Hollow Front, Spiritbox, and MANY more are killing it right now and they are not “silent right now”
too slow......and too much talk