RhinoCam - Shoot Medium Format with Mirrorless and DSLR Cameras
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The RhinoCam from Fotodiox supercharges your camera with the ability to shoot massive, highly detailed medium format photos without the bulk and expense that usually comes with medium format gear. Choose either a Nikon or Canon RhinoCam, add a medium format lens and you can shoot 645 aspect images, whether your camera sports a full-sized sensor or APS-C. We also offer models for compact mirrorless cameras including Sony E-mount, Canon EOS M and Fuji X Pro. Now go shoot some gorgeous vistas!
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What makes the DSLR version four times more expensive, and why does it come with only one preset lens mount? For 500 bucks I can buy two MILC versions with two lens adapters for both of them... I'm not a marketing expert, but it sound weird... :/
Something quite similar can be done with tilt-shift lenses too.
I am not surprised that I hadn't heard about this until now .. One moving bird in image and that's that.
Actually, we've found that if you capture a bird or a car or a pedestrian in one of the pictures, by the time you capture the other ones the moving subject will have moved out of frame. You can always shoot strategically too--wait for the frame to be clear, or use photoshop to remove a double of a moving subject. Yes, it does make shooting more tricky though.
on the surface looks interesting. However Ive been doing this for years already with a simple nodal slide for parallax and stitching in post with LR,PS or PTGui. All not only not sacrificing resolution but creating resolution, turning a 50mp capture in a 250mp capture depending on how many panels i shoot.
What about a speedbooster? You losse some pixels, but you gaine some comfort. I'd really love to see a focal reducers on a full frame camera, to give it a medium format equivalent. I mean, how hard can it be methabones can do it on aps-c sensors. If someone knows about some adaptors, let me know.
olger Schur Hi Olger. unfortunately we don't carry anything like this, it's an interesting idea to be sure.
Fotodiox Inc Thank you for the quick reply. Great channel by the way!
olger Schur they exist now. Just letting you know.
Wow great! Which company?
Kipon makes the one I know of but there may be others.
A lens mount to accept Linhof boards would be cool, then I could use the LF lenses I already own.
very cool, looks like you are discontinuing this? I notice your website has all them for sale.
We're not planning on discontinuing at this time.
Thanks so much for the quick reply, much appreciated!
Yes, I would be looking to mod the front of the camera to a Canon Eos mount..
Can you please provide the measurement from the very front plate (not including mount) to the Ground Glass? I assume this can be assumed to be the equivalent of a cameras "flange distance"? If it is less than 44mm, could I assume that it might be possible to adapt to a Canon Eos mount?
O.K, thanks so much once again!
God I would love to review this lol!
I was thinking of selling my Hasselblad 500CM & 50mm, 80mm, 150mm lens system. Not Anymore! A RhinoCam DSLR Type is now on my list..
Just saw the pix on Flickr. I noticed a lot of wildlife. How does one supposedly capture a moving object with six or 12 shots and have the animal not move? The owl in flight is a perfect example. How could one snap six or 12 pix of that and have the bird remain tack-sharp? I'm thinking the wildlife shots were not taken with your RhinoCam system?
Hi John, the RhinoCam group on Flickr is actually a fan-run group, and unfortunately it looks like people have been posting non-RhinoCam images there and they haven't been removed. However, it is possible to capture a scene with moving objects with the RhinoCam, but you may have to so some editing is post to remove clones of people/cars/animals that have moved between shots. Here's an example of a park scene we captured that had a lot of moving elements that turned out okay. There was enough overlap between each shot that Photoshop's automated stitching tool was able to make a perfect stitch, no editing required: www.flickr.com/photos/fotodiox/22496653513
@@FotodioxInc I was gifted some 4x5 lenses and was wondering if there is a way to adapt the lenses themselves onto my Pentax 645 either with a bellows or whatever. The reason I would rather do that than attach my camera to the back of a 4x5 is because I just want to snap the photo once without having to move the camera to take additional images and then have to stitch those together.
@@sburgos9621 That may be possible, but we don't carry anything like that for the Pentax 645 at this time. Currently we only support full frame cameras and the Hasselblad XCD and Fuji GFX medium format digital mounts when it comes to adapting 4x5 lenses. Your best bet would be to ask around on some photo forums. I'm sure someone has figured out a DIY method to mount large format lenses on a Pentax 645 mount camera.
what is the key difference of this rhino vs shift adapter?
How about Olympus micro 4/3 cameras guys? There are a lot of out here.
Yeah ! M 4/3
They have one for Fuji, but I need more money. LOL
Different, interesting.
yes, how about m43?
Hi Andik, unfortunately we don't carry an m43 version of the RhinoCam at this time.
what mamiya 645 lenses are recommended eg. for landscapes (should it not be too wide angle in case of distortion thus making it more difficult to stitch together lines in post)? What about for portraits? Thanks for your reply!
No olymypus mount.. why?
It would kind of make sense to have Pentax 645 to Pentax K, wouldn't it?
no
What would be good? A medium format version! Uh oh! Shit just got colossal.
+Philip Harper Indeed! :)
I am very interested in this item and have a couple of questions with regards to it..
Does the Sony Nex version have points indicating both "full frame" and "apsc" like the Canon and Nikon version which is shown in the above video? I would be looking to use a Sony A7R and am aware of the limitations associated with this setup (camera hitting the ground glass). It would be nice to take the bare minimum of images needed for a 645 stitch (6 images for a full frame camera) with this setup..
Or does the Sony Nex Rhinocam only have images marked for "apsc" sized sensor?
The second question is, are you able to use the Rhinocam to take "portrait" images? Or is that a matter of needing to flip your tripod 90 degrees to achieve this?
O.K, thanks a lot, look forward to hearing from you soon :)
Hi wallpaperviking,
The E-mount RhinoCam only has markings for an APS-C sized sensor, but following these markings with your Full Frame E-mount camera will work just fine--you'll just have more overlap between the stitched images. The sliding back on the RhinoCam does go farther than the indicated dots, and with a little experimentation you can capture a little more of the lens's image circle with a full frame camera. We don't recommend taking portrait oriented images because you have to turn the RhinoCam 90 degrees and the sliding back could fall out of it while set at this angle.
Hi,
Am just wondering what size the GroundGlass (and therefore the resulting stitched area) is on the Rhinocam made for Canon and Nikon DSLR's?
It seems to be square and bigger than the Rhinocam made for Sony E-mount?
As it is using a Hasselblad V lens, is the area 6cm x 6cm by any chance?
O.K, thanks a lot!
Hi! May I use my 5D Mark III in horizontal position with Rhinocam?
May I take only Three shots to merge a panorama photo or need to take all six shots?
Thanks and My best regards from Brazil
A Canon EOS and not a m4/3rds version??????
Jack McKechnie m43 have much smaller sensor than 35mm full frame. For example considering focal length you should multiply 2. Maybe you should take 12shot or more to get same size image with this thing
Jack McKechnie m43 have much smaller sensor than 35mm full frame. For example considering focal length you should multiply 2. Maybe you should take 12shot or more to get same size image with this thing
How does the angle work? If I Put a Hasselblad V 80mm lens on a RhinoCam for Canon Fullframe DSLR is it like a 40mm lens? And what picture do you see through the viewfinder?
take my money
Hi. Can I use a A7s full frame, with a full frame resolution or I would have to put it in crop mode?
AT a flee market I just got a 67mm Mir-3 for like nothing. I could buy a Kiev88 to Pentacon Six 6, a Pentacon Six 6 to Pentax 645 and then the RhinoCam... is it worth it?
It should work, but stacking adapters like that may introduce some reflection/wobble issues. Let us know if you try it and what results you get!
Yes please! RhinoCam for a Nikon Z 7ii to shoot 6x17 pano!!??
We do make RhinoCam Vertex adapters for Nikon Z cameras: fotodioxpro.com/search?type=product&q=nikon+z+vertex
These only shoot square images, so if you want to shoot pano, you could double adapt a Nikon Z camera to our original Canon DSLR RhinoCam with a Canon EF to Z adapter: fotodioxpro.com/products/hbv-ef-rc
This is excellent.
1. I have Hasselblad lenses
2. I have both Canon EOS M100 with APSC sensor and Sony A7rii with full frame sensor.
3. Ideally I would like to be able to alternate between the Canon and the Sony by changing the camera plate. Is this possible?
Unfortunately you can't swap plates between the EOS M version and the Sony version of the RhinoCam.
If I buy that, I will be using Hasselblad lenses. But I want 6x6 images. You only mention 6x4.5
This version only does 6x4.5. We offer a new RhinoCam Vertex adapter that creates a square image, but it's cropped in a bit at closer to 47x46.9mm capture size. Also it's currently only available for mirrorless cameras.
Please do mamiya 645 to Nikon!
So I could decide to use this as a lens "SHIFT" adapter as well (not shooting a panorama) with the large image circle of the MF lenses. Would be nice to have the "TILT" as well ...
They look a very useful piece of kit. Are you adding a Mamiya 645 lens mount option for the Nikon ?
We don't have plans to at this time.
besides size, are there any downsides from getting the DSLR version and later adapting to mirrorless?
I'm not sure that this can possibly compete against a 120 camera with a digital back, certainly looks in the same price range if not more expensive. To me though digital MF still lags film, which can be digitalised without losing detail or the amazing dynamic range you can get, and you can get a Hassie 503 cm for half the price.
Hi Mark, we're all for using the tools that work best for you, and some of our crew here still shoot a lot of medium format film and love it. When we created this product digital backs were still very expensive, but those prices have gone down as digital camera sensor tech has improved. The RhinoCam is still a great option though for people who already own a good digital camera and some MF glass and want that medium format image experience without having to buy extra cameras and digital backs.
Is that mean I can use my old 645 camera lenses with my new Sony A6000?
Hi Ctrèsbeau Claude,
If you have Pentax 645 or Mamiya 645 lenses, than yes, you can use those lenses with your Sony A6000 and the RhinoCam.
Fotodiox Inc Yes it is a Mamiya 645. Thanks for the answer.
By the way, without the Rhino system, what adapter (from Mamiya lenses) can I use with my Sony A6000?
Thanks!
Ctrèsbeau Claude Hi Ctrèsbeau Claude,
We don't offer a Mamiya 645 to Sony E-mount adapter, but you could stack our Mamiya 645 to EOS adapter with our EOS to E-mount adapter. Here are links to the two products you'd need:
www.fotodioxpro.com/mamiya-645-to-canon-eos-camera-fotodiox-pro-lens-mount-adapter.html
www.fotodioxpro.com/fotodiox-canon-eos-lens-to-sony-alpha-nex-e-mount-camera-lens-mount-adapter.html
+Fotodiox Inc
FYI -- I'm guessing this is dated ;-) , because there is one now (I've been enjoying it for several weeks at least.)
www.fotodioxpro.com/mamiya-645-mount-lens-sony-nex-camera-camcorder-adapter.html
Although stacking adapters works nicely too.
+Steve Sepan // Thanks Steve. Yessss!
I have a Mamiya RZ67 with lenses- is there a way to use my medium format RZ67 lenses at all with my Nikon D600? Thanks for your reply!
Yes. You'll need this adapter: www.fotodioxpro.com/products/rbrz67-nikf-pro
Fotodiox Inc thanks.. Would I have to pay the full price for the Nikon rhino cam even though it would come with the mount for the 645 lenses or could I get a deal for a rhinocam without the 645 lens mount so I can get the rz67 lens mount for Nikon instead? Is there a link also for rz67 lenses to sony e- mount (full frame and aps-c)? What would be an ideal rz67 lens final length for landscapes? The widest rz67 lens I have is 65mm, though I also have a 110 and 180mm lens. Could a medium format shot be taken off a portrait too if the subject could remain still enough?
I'm sorry, you made it sound like you just wanted to mount an RZ67 lens on your Nikon body directly. We don't currently offer a way to shoot with an RZ67 lens on a RhinoCam.
I use a Bronica SQ Ai and a Canon 5D Mk IV. Any chance of a Bronica mount?
Unfortunately we don't currently support the Bronica SQ mount for any of our RhinoCam models at this time.
Is it possible to get the measurements of the length of your various adapters? I am trying to see whether there is enough room to machine a "Canon Eos" mount onto the Rhinocam and still achieve infinity focus?
Thanks a lot!
Hi wallpaperviking,
We are currently offering a RhinoCam for Canon EF cameras, so you could always just use that. If you're interested in modding one of our mirrorless RhinoCams, the focal flange distance of Sony's E-mount system is 18mm and Canon's EF system is 44mm. We don't currently offer an adapter that would interface between the E-mount RhinoCam and an EF camera, so you'll have to get creative. Happy modding :)
From what I gather, "stitching" of several images is required. --Correct?
I do no postprocessing. so the Rhinocam is not for me. Correct?
Hi Larry,
Yes, you have to use a stitching program to assemble the images you capture.
Thank you for your prompt reply.
I see on the Flickr page that Dierk Topp is using the RhinoCam with a Sinar 4x5 camera. Is that a separate RhinoCam designed for that or is the front plate on the RhinoCam 4x5 so it can be attached to a 4x5 camera?
Hi Gene,
That's something we didn't mention in the video. Our three mirrorless RhinoCams are designed to integrate with a 4x5 camera's international standard back mount and can be used as 4x5 adapters. All you have to do is remove their medium format lens mounts. The two DSLR RhinoCams are slightly larger and do not fit on a 4x5 camera. If you're interested in using a Nikon or Canon DSLR on a 4x5 camera, check out our standard 4x5 adapters here: www.fotodioxpro.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=4x5
***** I can't speak for the Linhof but I have multiple Calumet (originally Kodak) 24" monorail 4x5s with 3 different lens from 90mm to 360mm that I intended to use with the RhinoCam but I find that I cannot achieve focus at the normal focal plane by simply replacing the ground glass with the RhinoCam as is stated by Fotodiox and shown to be done by Dierk as cited. I got the RhinoCam for Canon EOS M. By compressing the bellows completely and tilting the front standard as far back as it will go, I can barely achieve focus but that is totally inadequate. It was at the other end, the extended end of the bellows, where I wanted to mostly work. To achieve any kind of focus I need to recess the RhinoCam two or more inches forward of the normal focal plane of my 4x5s which puts it inside the bellows where it is not designed to go and will not go and function properly. I tested this with the bellows completely compressed and at various junctures on the way to full bellows extension to no avail. I emailed support about this but didn't get a reply. I didn't pursue my query further since I can use the RhinoCam as a medium format substitute, the purpose of my original purchase. I decided to just drop the request for comment about the 4x5 but I don't see any reason why your Linhof should be any different from my Calumet or how Dierk's Sinar works and my Calumet doesn't.
I may be doing something wrong but I cannot imagine what. I did the same thing that Dierk T. did with his Sinar - I took the ground glass holder off the back of my 4x5 and replaced it with the RhinoCam and found that no setting of the focal plane allowed focus. I don't see any reason why the Sinar or Linhof focal plane should or would be any different than my Calumet given the same lens and identical bellows extension. My 90mm Schneider-Kreuznach already requires a recessed board in the front. Focus with the 215mm and 360mm were totally out of the question. I wish support had replied so I wouldn't be writing this now but maybe this will get addressed here.
OK so please explain how this is different than a good solid tripod and pano setup. From what I see I can do the same with my tripod and dedicated pano setup. I can take as many shots as I like with my D810, stitch them together and from what I've seen the results are similar, am I wrong? A typical shot for me is 8-10 single row or 2-3x that for multi row, HUGE files that are hard to manage on a personal PC but the results are not dissimilar.
The difference with RhinoCam is that you're using an actual medium format lens. Your method is just as valid and we designed RhinoCam not to replace your method but to give people an option to use the full capacity of their medium format lenses.
My dreams just came true
What's the benfits of doing like this, instead of just stitching an image like normal, by moving the camera sideways?
+Stefan Johansson Hi Stefan. By capturing all of the images that you will stitch later through a single, unmoving lens, you get rid of distortion. Also, the RhinoCam gives you the ability to use high quality medium format glass.
Think I'll just stick to having my medium format film scanned at the lab, cheaper, easier, better result, and can take photos of moving things...
Hi Jason, it's great to hear that you're shooting medium format film! The RhinoCam was never meant to replace medium format film or digital cameras, it was made more as a tool for people who have a DSLR or Mirrorless APS-C or full frame camera and want to get a similar medium format look, and some of our users have created some pretty gorgeous images with it over the years. Have a great weekend!
Sounds good! How much to scan medium format film? Drum scans?
Love this idea... but no Bronnie lens mount?
Not currently.
Ok. I'll keep an eye out for when you do. Thanks.
Is there a vignetting, shadow due to the mirror box when using dslr in corner shots? Sensor is deep inside.
If you go past the guide markers on the RhinoCam you will get some vignette. Otherwise your image should be clear, unless you're using a wide angle medium format lens, in which will have some slight vignetting from the lens itself.
@@FotodioxInc Thanks a lot Fotodiox!
In the case of the D800/810 , images are already 36MP, so what on earth photo assignment would benefit by a 218 MP stitched images? I seriously want to understand this.
Hi Dale,
The RhinoCam is definitely not for every shooting situation. We find that photographers who use the RhinoCam like to make gigantic prints, or create web images that can be zoomed way in on. Also, there's something to be said for shooting through medium format glass and getting an image much like what you would get by shooting with a medium format digital back.
Fotodiox Inc I seem to be mis-understanding the designed / intended use. I understand it to be, providing large resolution images for primarily panoramic applications. Yes, huge benefit for smaller sensor cameras, but I'm not understanding the comparison to "medium format digital capture". The D800 at 36 MP yields HUGE Raw files and provides med. format digital res in a single shot. Used D800's are currently selling for as little as $1200.
Having adapted my Hasselblad lenses to the D800 for testing , my resolution tests show that they do not resolve as well as most Nikkor prime lenses. They do effect image quality by having a softer, more linear contrast (that has an effect on DSLR's "Gammas") than Nikon's current primes, (due to the modern lens coatings). So, this provides a softer, silkier medium format look, but can also be achieved by creating a custom preset for duplicating the "med. format look" in most prosumer and pro camera settings. Can you address these points? I think I'm missing something here.
What about a panorama rig that rotates around a focal point?
Interesting idea.
Sorry, I ment Nodal point of course =)
Is this system good for products photography
Yes, it can be, since the product isn't moving.
@@FotodioxInc thank you for your quick response. Have a good day.
is any rhinocam available for mirrorless z cameras?
We do make RhinoCam Vertex adapters for Z-mount cameras: fotodioxpro.com/search?type=product&q=rhinocam+vertyex+nikon+z
But if you want to use our classic RhinoCam with a Z camera, you could always use our Canon EF RhinoCam and double adapt the Nikon Z to it with a Canon EF to Nikon Z adapter. Here are the two products you'd need:
fotodioxpro.com/products/hbv-ef-rc
fotodioxpro.com/products/ef-nkz-p
When is the large format ( 8x10 ) version come
That's a great idea! We don't have plans to make one at this time, but maybe someday?
@@FotodioxInc fingers crossed
could see myself udeing a 8x10 version of it with my soony A7r or maybe find a way to make a scanner camera with it ( you know 400+ mp 48bit true color )
I need it for my bronica PG lenses for de GS-1 system. Please make a rhino camera back for these lenses
Hi Robert, if you get the Mamiya 645 mount version of the Rhinocam, you can use our Bronica GS-1 to Mamiya 645 lens adapter to mount your GS-1 lenses on it. Here's the link: www.fotodioxpro.com/products/pg-m645-pro
I have the Sony A7R and the sensor is larger than the opening at the front of the camera body. How does this not interfere with the image projection from the lens when the camera is shifted to the side?
You will get a slight amount of vignetting when shooting with the full frame Sony E-mount RhinoCam. We've found that there's enough overlap that you can crop out the vignetting in post on the individual images before you stitch them and still get a good stitch. Actually we recommend doing this because otherwise the vignetting will interfere with a clean stitch.
Thanks! Any chance of a Bronica S mount in the near future? Or a Fuji EBC mount?
Probably not any time soon, but we'll make an announcement here on TH-cam and on our Facebook page if we do.
If I want to avoid the vignetting on my Sony, can I get the Nikon/Canon models and adapt it again to Sony?
Oh wait... There's a full frame version now
I want to do this with a film camera
It's possible. We make a Nikon F and Canon EF SLR versions of this adapter that you could use with a Nikon or Canon film SLR. We also make a sliding back that uses Hasselblad V film backs: fotodioxpro.com/products/4x5-hbv-p?_pos=1&_sid=52f540b3e&_ss=r
How do I take pictures at the beach for when I shit the slider the waves will be out of sync?
We recommend shooting long exposures of water with RhinoCam so it's easier to blend individual shots in post.
I have lots of pentax 6x7 lenses how can I use the rhinocam with my sony A7r II
Hi Ricardo, you can buy the Mamiya 645 version of our Sony E-mount RhinoCam and then use our Pentax 6x7 to Mamiya 645 adapter to mount your lenses on it. Here are the two links:
www.fotodioxpro.com/collections/lens-mount-adapters/products/rhinocam-snye-plus?variant=33382207175
www.fotodioxpro.com/products/p67-m645-pro
crap for moving things....
That was in my mind as well, however it should work fine for stills.
With or without this (useless) piece of equipment, do you shoot a lot of panoramas of "moving things"?
I stumbled upon your video. I have Fuji GX680 lenses I bought from a collector few years back. Any chance I could use it on rhinoCam?
Hi Ken, unfortunately we don't offer a RhinoCam for that type of lens mount.
Noted with thanks. On the other hand, I have a small Sony QX1 mirrorless camera equipped with 20.1MP sensor which I frequently use now a days. I think this is an E-mount type body. Can you kindly confirm if it is compatible with RhinoCam? And also which kind of Hasselblad V lenses can be use? Many thanks in advance.
Hi Ken, yes, the Sony QX1 would work on our APS-C Sony E-mount RhinoCam. Any Hasselbald V-mount lenses can be used with it.
any chance that we get a largeformat rhinocam as well ?
Probably not, but we do also offer a 4x5 camera adapter that's similar to the RhinoCam. Here's the link: fotodioxpro.com/search?q=4x5
Does this include the lens for the Pentax 645Z?
If that lens requires electronic control to adjust the focus or aperture, than it won't work on our Pentax 645 RhinoCam, because the RhinoCam is manual only.
Is there a rhinocam that will suit the Bronica Zenzanon SQ lenses
Hi Les,
Our RhinoCam line currently supports Mamiya 645 and Pentax 645 lenses, and Hasselblad V lenses. We don't offer Bronica mounts for the RhinoCam at this time.
any plans for a micro four thirds mount?
We don't currently have plans to make an MFT version of the RhinoCam..
Yeah, this is a great technique and creates a really unique image.
nice
i think is nit worth it. the cost of this and a medium format lens. better take more shots and unify them in phoyoshop like a puzle
That's definitely a good method. The RhinoCam is more for people who want a lower cost digital back for their medium format lenses. It closer replicates the medium format shooting experience.
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maybe, just before thery buy a medium format, thats an idea also
Yeah, shooting with a film or digital medium format camera is always going to be the best way to shoot medium format images.
the same for large format pleaaaase :)
Hi Thomas,
Our three mirrorless RhinoCams are designed to integrate with a 4x5 camera's international standard back mount and can be used as 4x5 adapters. All you have to do is remove their medium format lens mounts.
Would be better if the moving/sliding mechanism is geared...
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass it on to our design team.
Any plans for a DSLR FX to 4x5 adapter?
Not at this time, but stay tuned for future announcements..
Isn't this similar to hi res mode for m43?
It's similar in the way you get a higher resolution image, but otherwise it's pretty different, because the RhinoCam emphasizes the quality of the medium format lens you're shooting through.
I better get some hassy lenses before they go up too much in price
hello excellent put he can work with products photography
Digital prints are next to worthless in the fine art gallery world. Try shooting film on a hasselblad 500 CM like Michael Kenna if you can cut it. Digital is on it's way out anyway.
It's very complicated nobody can use continuous shorts.
It will be fail.
But good try to creat new thing.
Hi Motasim Momin, the RhinoCam is really just designed for shooting landscapes and other non-moving images. For reference here's a group of topographers who use the RhinoCam and some of the images they've created with it: www.flickr.com/groups/2186652@N24/
Just use a wide-angle lens😂
Stitching photos together gives you a larger file and you can print it bigger. If you only print small, or just look at your own photos on your phone, then, no, this device is not for you.
xD
Its still not a medium format image, nor does it have the medium format look. It just doesn't look the same. Sure its great alternative for prints needing resolution on a budget, but its not medium format.
+Joe Peffer Actually, with the RhinoCam you are capturing the same image circle you'd be capturing with a medium format digital back or a roll of medium format film, so it is very close to the medium format look.
Stupiest product ever ahahah