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considering how smart their plan was for the escape, i wouldn't be surprised if they purposely left their pictures and belongings behind to make the searchers believe that they passed away
what if the bags were weighing them down and they realized that that was gonna make the boat like thing they built sink and the only reason they made it to land was because they left those bags
If they are alive and never got arrested again because they didn't do crimes, then escaping the prison did more for their characters than staying behind did for the fourth one.
it’s kind of sad they found all their personal items like pictures and stuff, but what if they purposefully left them behind to make it seem unlikely they made it ?
If they were smart enough to escape the rock, they were also smart enough to leave their belongings behind to make the people think that they perished....
the mother getting roses with signed cards is pretty interesting. she would most likely have been keeping in contact with her sons through letters while they were in prison, so she would know their handwriting. she could have even cross-referenced the signatures on the flower cards with old letters from her sons. i hope she got some closure and just didn't share it with the police/general public and that's why we think it's still unsolved
I love how, if the brothers did survive, they had sent their mom flowers on multiple occasions, and had dressed as women to attend family members funerals despite the risk it took if someone had found out that it was them. I really hope that they did survive, they didnt commit and despicably horrible crimes. They robbed a bank, cleverly escaped an "inescapable" prison and stayed clean from what we know for 50 years. These guys are cool.
@@mr.noaudio94 I agree, I believe Frank had the idea of leaving Allen behind with a fake plan telling him that they will go to Angel Island, which I believe they didnt. I believe they went straight to Shore instead, and apart of leaving Allen behind was because they saw him as a risk. Allen was brutal compared to them, he was more violent and they didnt like that. So they either left him behind with a fake plan, OR, Allen took the fall on purpose as he didnt have much time left to serve anyways, and gave the authorities the fake plan, with them believing it was true. Could be a simple mistake too that he couldnt escape with them, but I doubt it since he came up with the idea.
epicfail OMG i get it!! 😂😂😂😂 Bismarck must have helped them make this plan, Bismarck always has a plan Also why let a little inescapable prison get in the way of a good crusade?
You missed the coolest part, that Allen West apparently mad it to the roof eventually, but after the others had left. So he just stayed up there, smoking his cigarettes until dawn, before heading back to his cell.
Fun Fact: In the funeral of the mother of the brothers that escaped, 2 tall manly looking ''women'' were present. Birthday postcards were sent in the birthday anniversaries of their mother as long as she lived and the biggest clue of all suggesting they made it out alive, there was a car theft reported a few hours after they escaped and the description was fitting the escapees.
There's actually a picture of them against a tree that was taken 5 years after their escape. They moved to a small village and the picture was proven to be true because in the picture there was a picture of a hwy in the background and so someone looked up when the hwy was built and it was new as there wasn't a road there before. So the picture was confirmed as true that they survived
Yeah they did say that after the escape the FBI or authories anywhere in California never had any reports of robberies near the areas, however, they likely meant this into effect ACTWR they were done their original search for the escapees. Meaning if it was only a few hours into the break of dawn that they escaped, the people would still be looking for them. Meaning this theft was likely them because this was before the FBI was done searching the ocean. This was the only theft they committed and it was before it was set into effect. This was definitely the escapees
@@thatloserkyle the fbi factors in the time when they were searching or doing something else, too :) not only from when they start looking for info :) but, i think they made it, too
My thought is like, what if Allen being left behind wasn't just an unfortunate accident, and he in fact purposely sacrificed himself to help the others escape. His whole story to the guards and police of "They were heading towards Angel Island" was all a plow to throw them off and they actually did plan to go for Horseshoe Bay. The items being left behind could also be a part of that confuse the guards, because they said "these are all items they wouldn't give away" which is exactly what they wanted the guards to think. Kinda just a theory but it came to my mind when they mentioned how Allen cooperated with the authorities. Secondary theory is that the other guys purposely left Allen behind and told him the wrong plan so he would tell the guards the wrong story and they could get away
From the Wikipedia about the escape, "Clarence and John were reportedly inseparable as youngsters; they became skilled swimmers, and amazed their siblings by swimming in the frigid waters of Lake Michigan as ice still floated on its surface." There was also another escape afterwards of an inmate that managed to swim to the shore of the mainland but was caught immediately after. Tbh there's a good chance that the men were able to escape, and good for them imo.
Yeah, in the video its stated that there was no evidence of thefts in the immediate area following the mens escape, but in fact a 1955 blue Chevrolet (California license plate KPB076) was reported stolen in Marin County the same day-a claim corroborated by contemporaneous stories in the Humboldt Times and the San Francisco Examiner. The following day, a motorist in Stockton, California, 80 miles (130 km) east of San Francisco, reported to the California Highway Patrol that he had been forced off the road by three men in a blue Chevrolet. The man who reported this could not have known about the escape yet, and yet his descriptions were accurate.
They waited 30 minutes in their secret workshop for Allen West. Knowing time was running out, they left a raft, life vest, and a paddle for Allen West, Incase he ever managed to make it out of his cell.
@@suhail1200 if they made it, i believe they went Separate ways since Morris was a troublemaker but smart tho. Morris was in and out of prison and if i were one of the brothers i wouldn't want anything with that guy for a couple years at least. Just my opinion
they 100% survived. they left Allen on purpose because they thought of EVERYTHING yet all of a sudden Allen can’t fit into a massive hole?? unlikely. they also left those items to stage a failed escape. also, family members believe they survived based off of little signs they got from them. these men were too smart to have failed
What if they just dropped all that stuff in the water on purpose? What if they made it look like they died in the water so the FBI would be hesitant to look for them? These are really smart escapees were talking about here, and if I were them I would make it look like exactly that, and I think they would too!
D Hennny From what I’ve seen I haven’t finished the video but him lying to the Feds so they’d trust him but not actually giving them any true or important evidence so they’d make it
Maybe. I imagine it would've been hard to throw away something with sentimental value like family photos but if ya wanna throw the cops and the FBI off your tail, ya gotta just let it go.
I also figure that West would not have really told the authorities where the 3 prisoners intended to aim the raft for as the info. says he did....he would not have especially wanted to help them catch the prisoners and have 3 enemies come back to Alcatraz and find out he'd snitched and jump on him, so he wouldn't have told the authorities anything they never could prove he lied about.
Yes ma'am. I agree. Like Shane said, with how well planned and executed this plan was and being there is no evidence that any of these men ever bothered anyone or committed any crimes after their escape, the FBI should leave them alone.
@@adrianw0w757 yea they accidentally tunnelled out of their cells,accidentally made a fake workshop over those cells,accidentally made a raft from 50 rain coats.Yea soooo lucky
Rise and shine Mr.Freeman, rise and shine... Not that I wish to imply that you have been sleeping on the job. No one is more deserving of a rest, and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until... Well... Lets just say your hour has come again. The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So, wake up Mr. Freeman. Wake up and... Smell the ashes.
as someone above me said, it was most likely done on purpose. Allen get's questioned about it, gives the feds the wrong info about which island they are escaping to, but he gave them the wrong info but he still got time off his sentence, whilst the other 3 can escape in peace. For a plan this well thought out, I'm sure it was no mistake he was left behind, they were very clever.
@@FanniLatos I dont think anyone would take such a big sacrifice, that is to be left behind to leave wrong clues, especially the one with the idea to escape. Although it is a possibility. Regardless of our conjectures, we won't know the truth until they confess i guess
I have a hard time believing three grown men, especially physically fit prisoners, drowned together at the same time. Especially since regular people are able to swim the same distance.
But it could be the currents that drowned them. A professional football player where I live drowned in a lake or river because the currents were so rough.
As much as I dislike their criminal acts, I was rooting for them to escape. The Anglin brothers weren’t too bad of people, they often robbed banks at night or closed to ensure nobody was harmed and only used one weapon which was a toy gun.
I just wanna imagine the three of them all in the same nursing home (cause of course they’d be in the same nursing home) watching this and smiling. Knowing that they did this and it will never be forgotten.
West did all of this work, just to never escape. I kinda feel bad for him, like I know he was supposed to be in jail because he did wrong but I wish he could have escaped.
Their ingenuity and determination make them so likeable that it’s hard to not root for them. And if they survived, they lived honest lives afterwards anyways.
Considering the brilliance of their entire plan, I wouldn’t be surprised if they copied down their letters, sacrificed some photos, made an extra paddle, etc. all for the priceless “evidence” of their death Just a theory idk
It only makes sense that they would plan not only this part would be thought of, but also the fact that Allen was left would be thought of too in order to keep where they headed and their fate a secret idk
to be honest i think the FBI arent that bothered now since it was a while ago and they dont seem like violent people who repeat offended so i doubt theyre exactly embarrassed or going after them full force
Brian Cruz You want to believe it, as do we all. A perfect ending to an amazing story. But in all likelihood they died. Not fact, sure, but the bay is treacherous, especially with a raft made of uniforms
I know that they were criminals and they escaped from prison, but the fact that they might have sent flowers to their mother and went to the funerals of loved ones is just really sweet.
The prison could have aroused the ingenuity and desire to survie in them to make them excellent engineers...On land i guess they would have still been robbers
i mean they were bank robbers not serial killers or rapists so they didn't actually commit anything too morally wrong. i root for them, they seem like cool dudes
i think a pretty logical reason why their close belongings were found in the bay was just because the raft was not sturdy enough to hold all of that weight, so they had to let some things go.
Adding on to this theory; the men might have also discovered that having 3 people on was too heavy so the brothers pushed Morris off so they could survive. This explains the body sighting (being Morris) as well as the photo of the Anglin brothers
What is important, personal items or basic survival? The bags were left to convince investigators they had perished. But these men would have been involved in some criminal activity in order to further their survival.
i mean i think the more logical one someone said was that they didn’t want that evidence to be found somewhere else (like in a hotel they’d stay in) because literally some of the things they let go was paper. light as a feather
It’s a shame there aren’t many prisons in the US that have some of the rules in Alcatraz. Keeping prisoners happy/positive would really help to actually reform people, and would cut back greatly on violence in prisons.
in my head it makes more sense if the prison has very strict rules tbh, bc if u were to commit a crime and land in a prison were u feel like u are on vacation, u wouldnt regret the crime as much and would maybe commit another crime bc the prison is not that bad. whereas in a "strict prison" i think u would think twice before comitting the crime bc u are scared of living in such circumstances, if that makes sense (there would probably be more prisoners trying to escape ig but thats another story)
@@neymarjr-xs1lu I mean, that's one way of looking at it. Personally, I'd only get angrier if I spent so long in a strict prison. Plus, since I wouldn't be given anything to work out the root causes that led me to crime, I'd just start criming back once I got released 'cause which job would take me in? I think there should be a balance between these ideas. Your life isn't heavenly, but you don't feel downright miserable.
For post Mortem: you know what? Those men showed sewing skills, talent in arts and craft, turned musical instruments into a key to their survival, used cutlery to escape prison and best of all showed teamwork and grit. I think they deserve a round of applause. Nicely done boys nicely done 👍🏼 ps loving the new channel Shane and Ryan, congrats on how well you’re doing ❤️
My grandfather actually knew Frank Morris when he was younger! My grandfather grew up on a farm and they would foster kids from time to time, and Frank was one of them when he was pretty young, like elementary school age. According to my grandfather, Morris would go to school with an apple in hand and come home with an orange. Basically, he was crafty/clever and went against the rules/had the disposition of a criminal even at such a young age. Eventually Frank moved on to a different foster home. Based on the stories my grandfather told me, there's no doubt in my mind that Morris successfully escaped and lived on. Great episode by the way!
That's incredible! I've done huge amounts of research into this case, and Morris's past is of particular interest since his life was so untethered. Next to nobody remains who knew him -- there are so few stories of his life before Alcatraz, aside from what was maintained by officials and kept in his case file. That said, there are multiple instances of him stealing oranges while he was incarcerated so he must have loved them. I'd love to hear more if you're able to tell!
Imagine if they are alive and old enough to stay out of prison. Imagine if buzzfeed interviews them and they tell us their point of view. That would be the content I’m looking for.
Honestly, if they were still alive and I were them, I'd just write a tell-all book at this point. If they catch me, I don't have too much longer to live anyways.
For Post Mortem: Alright my theory is that the Anglin brothers survived and Morris died. I can't imagine that the men had a 'No man left behind attitude' we see that since West the original creator of the plan was left behind. Based on my own research the Anglin Brothers seemed to be the most likely to make the trip, they were the youngest out of the 4 Inmates and grew up on a farm. It is also said they became skilled swimmers, and amazed their siblings by swimming in the frigid waters of Lake Michigan as ice still floated on its surface. I don't know if Morris fell off the raft or if they all did but in either situation I believe the brothers would've stuck together and powered on without Morris. If they had stayed on the raft and made it to land without Morris I can imagine they could've left all the papers they had with them in the water to make it look like they had perished along side Morris, as people would assume they wouldn't leave the papers that were meant to help them behind. I can also imagine that since the only items found in the raincoat bags pointed to the Anglin brothers, the bags could definitely be an attempt to make it look like they had perished. Otherwise if all three of them fell off I can imagine the brothers would've just left everything and swam for their lives. Morris was and Orphan and the oldest out of the 4, where as the Anglin brothers had an obvious drive for family. It just makes too much sense to me that the Anglin brothers pushed through for each other and their families and that Morris couldn't fight anymore. Morris' body was seen by the ship and the Anglin brothers made subtle connections back to their family. I'm not sure what you guys think but that's my two cents.
Your an absolute genius!!! I think your theory is the most likely thing that has happened. Though I wish, if one of them were to live up to 99 years, they would tell the whole story, just for everybody to know what had happened.
maybe people should start saying "itś escapable AF" or " this is the most sinkable ship ever made" and things will work just the way they "skould" because of Murphy's laws
Do you not think that the plan was so detailed and ingenious, that they simply could have planted the life-jackets and raincoat bags with their personal effects to mislead the FBI?
Or alternatively, with the bags of belongings, they were thrown out to reduce weight on the raft- then the life jackets were discarded at shore into the sea, rather than leaving them to mark their landing ground.
AfroNinjas Actually it isn't... it's a classic movie from '79, it stars Clint Eastwood as Morris, seeing it would be good though, if you want an insight of the occurrence out of the movie.
I watched this a few hours before the episode aired by happenstance and had to come back here afterwards to see if it was the same people. What are the odds?
Waking up at 7 am, getting a hot shower, having a "happy hour" everyday, being allowed to move into a cell closer to your homies - this prison doesn't seem half-bad.
Dude just imagine you and your homies all planning for this escape for months and you all are so exited to leave but you get left behind. And the whole time you’re just feeling devastated knowing that you’re peers are all out there living their lives again. And you’re still stuck there...
Imagine their son or grandson watching this and they'll be like, "well my grandpa used to tell that story and it was more detailed" and suddenly realized that fact lmao
That was my great grandfather, it was more detailed. It’s crazy how actually cash can’t really be traced like he said, even til today I still hold his word.
It means that Allen was left behind in purpose.. In order to fool guards, that other 3 guys can escape for sure... Buy anyways I'm so sorry for him.. IDK why :/
i don’t think allen was apart of the plan. i think they might’ve left him to use him and then in hopes when they went to wake them up in the morning him being there would buy them more time than 4 fake dummies. they could’ve also realized 4 people would be too heavy and one of the two brothers weren’t going to get left and if the guy who went with the brothers was a big part of the plan allen was screwed from the beginning if someone had to get cut. i believe they fooled everyone until the very end by purposely leaving the belongings telling allen they were going to angel island and the real plan was to follow the current.
@@uzhollywood5044 the thing is, i'm pretty sure allen was the brains behind the plan. that being said he either wanted to help his 3 friends out and sacrifice himself (because he didn't have much left of his sentence anyway) or they were dirty and left him behind on purpose in the last moment.
Erik maybe it was a mixture of both. maybe they realized someone had to stay in order to leave and never truly discussed it and they just left without him knowing. i’m still sure the reason he was left tho was because the brothers weren’t going to separate and the other dude was there maybe before the man who was left ( i forgot the names of them i watched this 2 weeks)
I mean, the MythBusters did an episode all about the Alcatraz escape and they actually attempted it themselves, and if my memory serves me right, I do believe they succeeded. So I believe that their survival was very likely.
Yes. They used period accurate raincoats , materials, and the exact methods the inmates used. The only thing they didn’t do was inflate the raft with a modified musical instrument (because how it got inflated really didn’t matter). They also launched in identical weather conditions and temperatures, and successfully made it to the mainland. They showed that it wasn’t just feasible, but likely that the inmates survived.
What if the brothers escape and reveal themselves at the age of 100. No one can convicted them due to the case is already close. Plus that would be so badass.
Allen was left behind and yet didn’t call for the guards to rat out his cellmates. I think this may mean that’d he also be willing to give the wrong story about their escape plan to the authorities (and still get good behaviour privilege for it). Can’t say he was a good man, but he probably was a loyal one.
maybe the boat didn't last and they didn't care to take it back too the shore with them also possible that it sank before they could find it after being thrown in water
I've been to Alcatraz twice and it truly is beautiful there actually. They had loads of luxuries for a prison. There were even houses on Alcatraz with some of the prison worker's wives and children. They even had beautiful gardens. They were lucky to be there instead of somewhere so bleak. They even had libraries, huge rec halls and had shows and movies for entertainment.
@@Soul56293 well so is the infamous Mansfield Reformatory (the one from Shawshank Redemption) but it actually ended up way worse than Alcatraz and I'm pretty sure it was known to be quite abusive to the inmates
i grew up in san francisco, and shane's right, the bay is terrifying. we were always told not to go far out in the water, because the currents get crazy and the bottom is really inconsistent. You could take one step and be completely underwater
at this point i hoped they escaped and made it, all of their crimes seemed to be out of money needs and they don’t seem to have ever intentionally harmed someone either, they’re not the best people but that was one hell of a plan and i have no doubt the last phase of their plan consisted of getting the police to think they perished during the escape by planting those items, good job boyss
Okay but the fact that Allen was the one who initiated the plan, but was left behind... A tragedy, it's worse than a tragedy to me. But I don't blame the others ofc, I mean they couldn't have known if Allen did break through from his cell or not, and when they would've realised that Allen was left behind, it was too late....
Anyone wondering if the bags of personal belongings was just a prop left behind by the escapees to make it look like they didn’t make it to land? Seems like a possibility after all the genius ideas by the prisoners
Honestly right now they could be sitting in a beach restaurant in Brazil sipping their margaritas and saying, “ yo anglin! Remember when we escaped that prison?”
I would be ok with this staying unsolved because I really want to believe they managed to escape and were somewhere drinking and having fun and staying out of trouble, living their best life. Sucks that West wasn't able to get out but I'm really rooting for other three.
They'd all be about 90 now so I like to imagine 3 old dudes drinking some whiskey and laughing about not getting caught and the idiot with the too small vent.
Here are some things I want to point out. 1. I think they tested the raft in that work shop for leaks and to see if it would hold all 4 guys without losing air. 2. There’s a good possibility those guys trained their selves to physically help withstand that water as a back up plan. They could’ve taken ice baths or something equivalent to help them get used to that cold water and I’m sure they worked out a lot to keep in shape while also staying small enough to fit through the duct work. 3. I think the maintenance guy was in on it considering they probably wouldn’t have found that workshop and a lot of the tools without him. 4. The chances of them surviving in the U.S without being caught is very slim so I do think they fled to another country. 5. They could’ve been using those bags to keep the water out of the raft from the harsh waters and that’s how they lost that sealed bag filled with letters.
I like to believe that they survived. The fact that they never recovered the bodies says a lot. Also back then, times were different so they probably had outside help from family members that helped them get settled and possibly change their names. They probably moved to another country, possibly Brasil? Hence the photo. You have to give them credit for pulling off the biggest and most successful prison break of all times. Ps, I feel really bad for the one who got left behind
Listen to the Criminal podcast about this escape. Their sister never heard from them, although some family members claimed to have seen them at a funeral
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SHANE BE MY AUNT
Heading to college next weekend... you both survived (I assume) any advice?
whos more likely to be able to escape from prison, ryan or shane? my vote is sarah
If you were in Alcatraz would you want to escape, and if so how would you do it?
Why is it always a tunnel? Why aren’t there more disguise attempts? How would you two escape a prison?
imagine them watching this and saying
“they got it all wrong”
Sofia Alonzo - Ortega they would be 90 by now😂
Raspberryoranges YT *Damn millennials, can’t even get our story right*
Raspberryoranges YT idc how old they’re all freaking geniuses
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They come out of hiding just to prove wrong buzzfeed unsolved... that would be legendary
Imagine the 3 of them survived that night and they're in their 80's or 90's right now and would decide to take a tour in the island again.
Dinn Kevin Noel best comment
Well supposedly, One of the escapees has lived to their 80’s. Idk if it ‘s true or not though.
They will be like: We used to play dirty Lil games here xD
Sup
deadass rocking up in their sunglasses with their middle fingers up
considering how smart their plan was for the escape, i wouldn't be surprised if they purposely left their pictures and belongings behind to make the searchers believe that they passed away
dang, I didn’t even think of this!! smart!
what if the bags were weighing them down and they realized that that was gonna make the boat like thing they built sink and the only reason they made it to land was because they left those bags
Carlos Cisneros thats what i was thinking. or it took up too much room in the raft
Carlos Cisneros makes sense
Was thinking the same
Imagine the bond you’d share with guys you escaped the most secure prison in the world with
and imagine that person being your brother!! i know my younger brother would probably leave me if i got scared or something 😭😭
@@_iyakin and if there your younger brother you're a biggggg wuss
Meh, I dont think Morris and the brothers remained close after it tbh. I think they split off a little after the escape and didnt make contact again.
best friends for life
The dad lore gonna go crazy ☠️
Knowing me I’ll be the one guy who can’t get his vent open
Same, I just imagine this if we were part of it:
Those 3 guys: where are the other 2?
Us: I CAN'T OPEN THE VENT!!
Those guys: *sighs and face palms*
Lol
The guy who breaks his digging spoon and drops the soap 😂
I’ll be the guy who gets stuck
Aidan da Gamer me too 😂😂😂
Allen being left behind feels like the equivalent of stopping to tie ur shoes and none of the homies wait for u
fully, i felt bad for him yk
Ooof 😥 I felt that
😭😭
Yup! But they couldn’t help him otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten out!
I mean at least he survived, in my opinion I think very likely the prisoners died while trying to escape 😅
allen being left behind is like my friends going through with the plans i made on a day i wasn’t available
Yup
Relatable 😭😭
hits hard huh
Or me telling my friends to wait up while I tie my shoelaces and the keep walking
I love TH-cam comments
If they are alive and never got arrested again because they didn't do crimes, then escaping the prison did more for their characters than staying behind did for the fourth one.
Cosi omg
Best criminals never get caught
2,000th like. Also that is very true
I would imagine the anger and resentment of having failed that carefully planned escape made him angrier and more prone to commit crime.
@@rustinstardust2094 Would have went on a revenge hunt.
I was really rooting for them. The plan is just too good. They deserved to make it out. Hope they lived and enjoyed the rest of their lives.
Kat M ......... they were in the prison for a reason
EZ Yeah, I know. That's why I explained that I was rooting for them since they had such a great plan.
@@m6ng0ooo they were in prison for robbery it's not like they killed someone lmaooo
@@jackharkness1530 still illegal
@@gtbedyupeicefshf9887 get it how you got it , if you can escape a level 5 prison you deserve to be free imo
it’s kind of sad they found all their personal items like pictures and stuff, but what if they purposefully left them behind to make it seem unlikely they made it ?
I imagine the waters were dangerous, and so the items may have fallen off the raft or thrown off to save weight and not sink.
nicole I was thinking the same thing
I think at the moment they escaped that they didn’t care about the pictures or anything and threw them to escape
YES THATS WHAT I SAID!
I'm from the Bay area and that is what most of us think.
If they were smart enough to escape the rock, they were also smart enough to leave their belongings behind to make the people think that they perished....
Ur right that is what they did ik what happened to them
Exactly!
It’s not that scary because none of them were murderers so that’s fine.
@Elitedevil Not again. They were robbers. There is no again, they've never killed anyone
@@madamefeast4824 He's saying if they were murderers, the wouldn't murder again
@@thelonewolf2929 ahh. I reread it .. indeed haha
True that
One of the rare Buzzfeed Unsolved cases where no one died.
the mother getting roses with signed cards is pretty interesting. she would most likely have been keeping in contact with her sons through letters while they were in prison, so she would know their handwriting. she could have even cross-referenced the signatures on the flower cards with old letters from her sons. i hope she got some closure and just didn't share it with the police/general public and that's why we think it's still unsolved
yes i find that so wholesome
There were also two unknown tall “women” with heavy makeup at the anglin brothers mother’s funeral that were believed to be the brothers
@@theo1807 makes it even more wholesome, risking capture to mourn there mother
Leila!! My name is Leila too! Lol same spelling which is rare. People usually do Layla. Had to just say that !
Yeah that would be nice if at least she knew they were alive before she died.
I love how, if the brothers did survive, they had sent their mom flowers on multiple occasions, and had dressed as women to attend family members funerals despite the risk it took if someone had found out that it was them. I really hope that they did survive, they didnt commit and despicably horrible crimes. They robbed a bank, cleverly escaped an "inescapable" prison and stayed clean from what we know for 50 years. These guys are cool.
Yep they are the reason we got to see Michael Scofield and Lincoln Burrows.
@@pranavpanicker1120 underrated!!!!
@@pranavpanicker1120 thats such a great show omg
The only time I’ll root for murders
No they didn't stay clean. One of them is the zodiac
Allen being left behind after doing all the work is the equivalent of doing a whole project by yourself but your classmates get all the credit
But Frank planned the whole thing, his IQ is 133
@@mr.noaudio94 I agree, I believe Frank had the idea of leaving Allen behind with a fake plan telling him that they will go to Angel Island, which I believe they didnt. I believe they went straight to Shore instead, and apart of leaving Allen behind was because they saw him as a risk. Allen was brutal compared to them, he was more violent and they didnt like that.
So they either left him behind with a fake plan, OR, Allen took the fall on purpose as he didnt have much time left to serve anyways, and gave the authorities the fake plan, with them believing it was true. Could be a simple mistake too that he couldnt escape with them, but I doubt it since he came up with the idea.
@@mr.noaudio94 iq is meaningless..
School mentality. Grow up!
No it’s not
The budget for construction was limited bc they spent so much money on rain coats
And who made them get so many raincoats...... It was Walpole
Only extra history fans will get this
@@epicfail7874 Duncan?
@@steampunkofgondor2619 what
@@epicfail7874 i thought you wre referring to duncan walpole
epicfail OMG i get it!! 😂😂😂😂
Bismarck must have helped them make this plan, Bismarck always has a plan
Also why let a little inescapable prison get in the way of a good crusade?
You missed the coolest part, that Allen West apparently mad it to the roof eventually, but after the others had left. So he just stayed up there, smoking his cigarettes until dawn, before heading back to his cell.
That's so sad
so he never ratted the others out?
@@morlock1267 He helped the FBI with details of the actual escape, but never told as to where they were going.
Jacob Currie makes you think if they actually made it
didnt they go to mexico or peru and then sent theirr family photos of them on a motorbike
edit:brazil
I kinda want them to be alive just because of how well executed this plan was
same
OhThatsSoJames all of them survived, look it up! :D
Oh god yes lol
I’m so glad I’m not the only one.
They are alive
Fun Fact: In the funeral of the mother of the brothers that escaped, 2 tall manly looking ''women'' were present. Birthday postcards were sent in the birthday anniversaries of their mother as long as she lived and the biggest clue of all suggesting they made it out alive, there was a car theft reported a few hours after they escaped and the description was fitting the escapees.
There's actually a picture of them against a tree that was taken 5 years after their escape. They moved to a small village and the picture was proven to be true because in the picture there was a picture of a hwy in the background and so someone looked up when the hwy was built and it was new as there wasn't a road there before. So the picture was confirmed as true that they survived
Yeah they did say that after the escape the FBI or authories anywhere in California never had any reports of robberies near the areas, however, they likely meant this into effect ACTWR they were done their original search for the escapees. Meaning if it was only a few hours into the break of dawn that they escaped, the people would still be looking for them. Meaning this theft was likely them because this was before the FBI was done searching the ocean. This was the only theft they committed and it was before it was set into effect. This was definitely the escapees
I, too, watched the episode and got those bits of information.
@@thatloserkyle the fbi factors in the time when they were searching or doing something else, too :) not only from when they start looking for info :) but, i think they made it, too
Source?
Honestly I believe they survived. Just like the scientist said, the adrenaline and determination they most likely had, they should’ve survived
I've seen prisoners do some things I would've thought impossible so I agree. Probably motivated people can do the impossible.
they barely survived tho
Hold up anyone mention that they may have hijacked a boat
@@officiallyaboredbook9539 its a theorie
@@cranky123 youd know if a boat went missing tho wouldnt you, someone would report it
My thought is like, what if Allen being left behind wasn't just an unfortunate accident, and he in fact purposely sacrificed himself to help the others escape. His whole story to the guards and police of "They were heading towards Angel Island" was all a plow to throw them off and they actually did plan to go for Horseshoe Bay. The items being left behind could also be a part of that confuse the guards, because they said "these are all items they wouldn't give away" which is exactly what they wanted the guards to think. Kinda just a theory but it came to my mind when they mentioned how Allen cooperated with the authorities. Secondary theory is that the other guys purposely left Allen behind and told him the wrong plan so he would tell the guards the wrong story and they could get away
This is a strong one
Maybe he was salty that he was being left behind and decided that he might as well rat them out
@@elixirestgames3870 Most likely. Though you gotta admit this dude's theory would if it were true is the most badass plan ever, and a sad one too.
And I mean he got out a couple years later... I could see him sacrificing to help them knowing he wasn't gonna be in there that long
@@elixirestgames3870 i think if he was salty about it he’d probably alerted the guard while the others are escaping
Hey, if they survived, at least they were bank robbers and not serial killers.
true and is the real Shaquille O'neil.
Thank you Shaq
That is true!
Banks are robbing us the people 😂 so tbh they didn’t do any thing bad
Your literary shack you my favorite and you dunk so hard
From the Wikipedia about the escape, "Clarence and John were reportedly inseparable as youngsters; they became skilled swimmers, and amazed their siblings by swimming in the frigid waters of Lake Michigan as ice still floated on its surface." There was also another escape afterwards of an inmate that managed to swim to the shore of the mainland but was caught immediately after. Tbh there's a good chance that the men were able to escape, and good for them imo.
Yeah, in the video its stated that there was no evidence of thefts in the immediate area following the mens escape, but in fact a 1955 blue Chevrolet (California license plate KPB076) was reported stolen in Marin County the same day-a claim corroborated by contemporaneous stories in the Humboldt Times and the San Francisco Examiner. The following day, a motorist in Stockton, California, 80 miles (130 km) east of San Francisco, reported to the California Highway Patrol that he had been forced off the road by three men in a blue Chevrolet.
The man who reported this could not have known about the escape yet, and yet his descriptions were accurate.
Nobody:
Shane: “They shoulda just asked to leave.”
Lmao
He's not wrong tho
Imagine these people are like secretly your dad or uncle but with a different name
*sweats because my grandpa's face looks like the brother's facial structure*
Won't it be cool how strategic your uncle's are
That would be so cool but scary because then they're criminals.
@@joandaniels9241 Lmfaoooooooo
I would be pretty impresseed
They didn’t murder anyone, so I’m allowed to root for them right?
I don’t judge if you want to root for them you can root for them. I definitely am
@Austy you had no validity after you said your proof was TH-cam 😂
@Austy You forgot to take your meds
@Austy I’ve seen his videos and read his book, I don’t know if I believe they did all of those things. But it’s an interesting theory.
It's said West actually killed someone while in prison, don't know about the rest.
They waited 30 minutes in their secret workshop for Allen West. Knowing time was running out, they left a raft, life vest, and a paddle for Allen West, Incase he ever managed to make it out of his cell.
This
True lads, shame that guy didn't make it. I mean they were criminals but we all wanted to see them escaping
Diogo Fonseca the 2 brothers escaped and that other guy.Do u think they went their separate ways or all 3 together?
Diogo Fonseca they all did for sure, riskier to spoitn
@@suhail1200 if they made it, i believe they went Separate ways since Morris was a troublemaker but smart tho. Morris was in and out of prison and if i were one of the brothers i wouldn't want anything with that guy for a couple years at least. Just my opinion
they 100% survived. they left Allen on purpose because they thought of EVERYTHING yet all of a sudden Allen can’t fit into a massive hole?? unlikely. they also left those items to stage a failed escape. also, family members believe they survived based off of little signs they got from them. these men were too smart to have failed
i agree, the anglin brother survived. they live in south america now.
@@ashlynnseay1415 they did but in 2018 one of the brothers sent a letter to FBI saying the other 2 passed in 2005 and 2010 while he had cancer
@@nem0moneyTV source?
Allen told the authorities he couldnt get through the last piece of the wall. Why wouldnt he tell them they left him behind lol
Obv not smart enough to stay out of prison
What if they just dropped all that stuff in the water on purpose? What if they made it look like they died in the water so the FBI would be hesitant to look for them? These are really smart escapees were talking about here, and if I were them I would make it look like exactly that, and I think they would too!
What if they left West behind on purpose to misdirect them? That would be....genius!
Lizzie Banyan wdym by misdirect ??
D Hennny From what I’ve seen I haven’t finished the video but him lying to the Feds so they’d trust him but not actually giving them any true or important evidence so they’d make it
Maybe. I imagine it would've been hard to throw away something with sentimental value like family photos but if ya wanna throw the cops and the FBI off your tail, ya gotta just let it go.
I also figure that West would not have really told the authorities where the 3 prisoners intended to aim the raft for as the info. says he did....he would not have especially wanted to help them catch the prisoners and have 3 enemies come back to Alcatraz and find out he'd snitched and jump on him, so he wouldn't have told the authorities anything they never could prove he lied about.
anyone else get oddly sad that Allen was left behind
yea like allen was just tryna escape and then he gets left behind by them :((
@@janie4818 and he was the leader
It was his fault though, he didn’t make his grate easy enough to fit through
@@cpldalton5966 it still makes me sad though :(
he got to the roof but was too late ,so he stayed up there until dawn while smoking a cigarette and went back to his cell
"To this day the dummy head still has the dent left from when the officer damaged it" did you think it would've ever healed ?
That's what I was thinking.💀
Poor head was never taken to the hospital
John: :)
Clarence: :)
Frank: :)
Allen: :(
Lol 😆😆
I think they meant there was no farther damage after it had hit the floor...so u can see it just like how it was back then
these men are so smart it's insane
Yes ma'am. I agree. Like Shane said, with how well planned and executed this plan was and being there is no evidence that any of these men ever bothered anyone or committed any crimes after their escape, the FBI should leave them alone.
@@evanpimental if they weren’t criminals they would have been good engineers
more like so lucky
@@adrianw0w757 no they are still very smart and creative even with luck this isn't something that just anyone could do
@@adrianw0w757 yea they accidentally tunnelled out of their cells,accidentally made a fake workshop over those cells,accidentally made a raft from 50 rain coats.Yea soooo lucky
*alcatraz keeper:* "riiseee and shiineee"
*prisoners false head falls off*
*keeper:* :(
Lutxi_235 😂😂
😂 this is the best thing so far this day
The escapee: *:)*
Rise and shine Mr.Freeman, rise and shine...
Not that I wish to imply that you have been sleeping on the job. No one is more deserving of a rest, and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until...
Well... Lets just say your hour has come again.
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.
So, wake up Mr. Freeman. Wake up and... Smell the ashes.
i can just hear the sad face going: hawwwwwwwwww :(
Sometimes when the plan is so good, you just can’t help but wish they made it .
Who else is on quarantine and binging these
Lil Pop Tart I’ve been through about twice now
@@remingtonry I dont even wanna know how many times ive been threw
What else is there to do
Lil Pop Tart meeeee
ME
I love how Ryan does all the research and explains everything and Shane just sits there and makes jokes
my fav dynamic duo
@@vkjungenberg4110 yeah
Ryan is a cutie.
Me: Imagine being a leader of a group of inmates that escaped without you, even tho u started the whole idea.
Allen West:
how long was their sentences ?
as someone above me said, it was most likely done on purpose. Allen get's questioned about it, gives the feds the wrong info about which island they are escaping to, but he gave them the wrong info but he still got time off his sentence, whilst the other 3 can escape in peace. For a plan this well thought out, I'm sure it was no mistake he was left behind, they were very clever.
Fanni Latos da heck thats way too awesome
sad
@@FanniLatos I dont think anyone would take such a big sacrifice, that is to be left behind to leave wrong clues, especially the one with the idea to escape. Although it is a possibility. Regardless of our conjectures, we won't know the truth until they confess i guess
I have a hard time believing three grown men, especially physically fit prisoners, drowned together at the same time. Especially since regular people are able to swim the same distance.
its because of the strong currents or the cold water combined with the distance that made it so hard. not the distanceby it self
@@hmmmm635 if you consider the adrenaline and determination, then they drowned full of adrenaline and determination.
@@TB--sp9wy you are freaking brutal lmao
TB - 1497 Pahhahahahahhaa ffs! 😂
But it could be the currents that drowned them. A professional football player where I live drowned in a lake or river because the currents were so rough.
As much as I dislike their criminal acts, I was rooting for them to escape. The Anglin brothers weren’t too bad of people, they often robbed banks at night or closed to ensure nobody was harmed and only used one weapon which was a toy gun.
well when you put it like that... ;)
Victor Aquino nothing bad about stealing people's money.
Katie Bayliss c’mon. They didn’t deserve to go to Alcatraz
Katie Bayliss they should’ve just gone to a normal jail, like they didn’t have to send them to Alcatraz
yellowboba "normal jail" sucked during this time.(it does now as well)
I just wanna imagine the three of them all in the same nursing home (cause of course they’d be in the same nursing home) watching this and smiling. Knowing that they did this and it will never be forgotten.
Your comment makes my heart happy on so many levels.
Has to be one of the best prison escapes in history. These boys smashed it.
Yes
Damn right these guys are very impressive. Shows what the human mind can do even when you don't graduate from college.
West did all of this work, just to never escape. I kinda feel bad for him, like I know he was supposed to be in jail because he did wrong but I wish he could have escaped.
He is an idiot.
And he had the nerve to throw his partners under the bus afterwards
Chante Farsht I would’ve done the same thing if i got left behind
A double edged sword feeling bad for a prisoner
æftœñ chapel I mean but damn it’s kinda his fault for making his hole to big and then having to seal part of it over with concrete
Imagine
Guard: “rise and shinnnneee.”
*Head falls off
Guard: ..........what da hell we gon do now
The Legal Dropout thank you for this :) it reminded me of my gf so thx v much haha
....
Other prisoners that were watching them escape: yall hear sum?
"I'm so fired"
LMAO🤣 I dont know why i find that so funny but it is
Imagine being in THE Alcatraz and a random dude comes up to you and goes "you wanna trade that raincoat for...uhh...I don't know, a pack of smokes?"
POV : you're from Britain and some random dude came to you and said "Hey give you're raincoat for uhh...these Bisquits and Tea Leaves"
@@napoleonbonaparte7172 ._.
@@napoleonbonaparte7172 Tbh, I would take the tea and bIscuits lol
The only reason why buzzfeed is still alive is because of these doods.
facts
Faks
emily benick worth it too
True, try guys left. So only worth it, this guys n i guess tasty too
I actually hate them
i love how this comment section is rooting for the criminals lmao
Their ingenuity and determination make them so likeable that it’s hard to not root for them. And if they survived, they lived honest lives afterwards anyways.
If they get back to the mainland, they can go free.
In Germany, breaking out of prison is not even a crime.
They only took enough to help the family.... and were never violent
Also the prisoners in that prison were treated as animal. Sometimes they didn’t even deserved what they are going through.
When I'm being told the death theory:
They 100% did not survive then
When I'm being told the survive theory:
They 100% survived then
Literally🤣
So true
why is it that they are not alive and alive in one of theory.
James Momary because it’s just a theory. A PRISON THEORY!
@@jimmomary bb
Considering the brilliance of their entire plan, I wouldn’t be surprised if they copied down their letters, sacrificed some photos, made an extra paddle, etc. all for the priceless “evidence” of their death
Just a theory idk
Exactly, considering how well planned the escape was, it only makes sense they thought this out too.
It only makes sense that they would plan not only this part would be thought of, but also the fact that Allen was left would be thought of too in order to keep where they headed and their fate a secret idk
I slapped my table so hard when he said “west was left behind”
Were u pissed?
i get it hahahahaha
Honestly same i'm like:
WTF GUYS?!!
Carlos is your hand ok
I was lowkey mad when they said they left him behind
They made it , FBI can’t just admit it , three criminals outsmarting them
to be honest i think the FBI arent that bothered now since it was a while ago and they dont seem like violent people who repeat offended so i doubt theyre exactly embarrassed or going after them full force
SFLAKHI 21 Lol no way. You’ve clearly never been to SF bay
FBI weren't outsmarted
they escaped from Alcatraz prison, not the FBI headquarters
and they didn't outsmart anyone; they drowned
Jason Phillips you’re trippin
Brian Cruz You want to believe it, as do we all. A perfect ending to an amazing story. But in all likelihood they died. Not fact, sure, but the bay is treacherous, especially with a raft made of uniforms
Imagine being in prison and some guy comes up to you and says "hey man, I'll trade you a pack of smokes for your raincoat."
Thats not that weird in prison
@Ethan how would you know? Thats actually very common to make trades in prison while at least back then my grandpa went to prison when hes young
@Jay Garcia I never knew that people actually traded stuff in a prison and my mother worked at one for awhile
Haha
Can I get your instagram? Or snap? 😻😹
I know that they were criminals and they escaped from prison, but the fact that they might have sent flowers to their mother and went to the funerals of loved ones is just really sweet.
Too bad these dudes were criminals, cause it sounds like they would have been great engineers!
The prison could have aroused the ingenuity and desire to survie in them to make them excellent engineers...On land i guess they would have still been robbers
maybe if they had a better upbringing and better education they could've been engineers 🤷♀️
Life isn't as easy for some people. World is full of failed geniuses.
i mean they were bank robbers not serial killers or rapists so they didn't actually commit anything too morally wrong. i root for them, they seem like cool dudes
@@reptile_loki its actually confirmed by the anglin family that they made sure to never kill anyone
fun fact: alcatraz would only allow hot showers so inmates couldn’t get used to the cold water if they escaped
Vefek wow cool
Lemurzz D ikr
Wow
what do you mean?
but if i was them, i'd still swim the cold water rather than died in that prison..even if the chance was 0.0001%..it's still a chance. :/
i think a pretty logical reason why their close belongings were found in the bay was just because the raft was not sturdy enough to hold all of that weight, so they had to let some things go.
Adding on to this theory; the men might have also discovered that having 3 people on was too heavy so the brothers pushed Morris off so they could survive. This explains the body sighting (being Morris) as well as the photo of the Anglin brothers
or they had to ditch everything so evidence wouldnt be found
What is important, personal items or basic survival? The bags were left to convince investigators they had perished. But these men would have been involved in some criminal activity in order to further their survival.
i mean i think the more logical one someone said was that they didn’t want that evidence to be found somewhere else (like in a hotel they’d stay in) because literally some of the things they let go was paper. light as a feather
@@cakelaws Doubt they killed Frank, he had a genius IQ and to operate their raft, two had to blow the raft while one peddles so he’s crucial.
It’s a shame there aren’t many prisons in the US that have some of the rules in Alcatraz. Keeping prisoners happy/positive would really help to actually reform people, and would cut back greatly on violence in prisons.
in my head it makes more sense if the prison has very strict rules tbh, bc if u were to commit a crime and land in a prison were u feel like u are on vacation, u wouldnt regret the crime as much and would maybe commit another crime bc the prison is not that bad. whereas in a "strict prison" i think u would think twice before comitting the crime bc u are scared of living in such circumstances, if that makes sense (there would probably be more prisoners trying to escape ig but thats another story)
@@neymarjr-xs1lu I mean, that's one way of looking at it. Personally, I'd only get angrier if I spent so long in a strict prison. Plus, since I wouldn't be given anything to work out the root causes that led me to crime, I'd just start criming back once I got released 'cause which job would take me in?
I think there should be a balance between these ideas. Your life isn't heavenly, but you don't feel downright miserable.
Ok but Alcatraz was not a fun or positive place, like that is very important to what Alcatraz is like
@@CameronDog no I know, but it’s the thought that counts
For post Mortem: you know what? Those men showed sewing skills, talent in arts and craft, turned musical instruments into a key to their survival, used cutlery to escape prison and best of all showed teamwork and grit. I think they deserve a round of applause. Nicely done boys nicely done 👍🏼 ps loving the new channel Shane and Ryan, congrats on how well you’re doing ❤️
Sure they had skills and all but they were still criminals and were there for a reason
Sadly the team spirit fell apart when they left one of them behind.
Morgan Roberts you’re very pretty🤷🏼♂️what’s your insta
Klára Dědková yes of course, just some light hearted humour :)
CosmoHolmes hahaha true didn’t think of that!!
My grandfather actually knew Frank Morris when he was younger! My grandfather grew up on a farm and they would foster kids from time to time, and Frank was one of them when he was pretty young, like elementary school age. According to my grandfather, Morris would go to school with an apple in hand and come home with an orange. Basically, he was crafty/clever and went against the rules/had the disposition of a criminal even at such a young age. Eventually Frank moved on to a different foster home. Based on the stories my grandfather told me, there's no doubt in my mind that Morris successfully escaped and lived on. Great episode by the way!
That's incredible! I've done huge amounts of research into this case, and Morris's past is of particular interest since his life was so untethered. Next to nobody remains who knew him -- there are so few stories of his life before Alcatraz, aside from what was maintained by officials and kept in his case file. That said, there are multiple instances of him stealing oranges while he was incarcerated so he must have loved them. I'd love to hear more if you're able to tell!
I actually believe you lol
R/thatHappened
MrMessiah I was going to say that ಥ‿ಥ
MrMessiah
Beat me to it.
You left out the part that Frank Lee Morris IQ was at genius level
Dhanish Ayaz Yes I know
Frank Morris if course you do, you have a high IQ
IQ level was 133
The Anglin brothers were very sharp as well.
Chris Waltman nope not really they needed franks instructions
*Dwayne "Alcatraz Prison" Johnson*
Was looking for a comment like this
Imagine if they are alive and old enough to stay out of prison. Imagine if buzzfeed interviews them and they tell us their point of view. That would be the content I’m looking for.
Kiki Gb on godd
they never caught us suckers
no one cares
Kiki Gb yeah it’s way past the statute of limitations. They could come forward
Honestly, if they were still alive and I were them, I'd just write a tell-all book at this point. If they catch me, I don't have too much longer to live anyways.
For Post Mortem: Alright my theory is that the Anglin brothers survived and Morris died. I can't imagine that the men had a 'No man left behind attitude' we see that since West the original creator of the plan was left behind. Based on my own research the Anglin Brothers seemed to be the most likely to make the trip, they were the youngest out of the 4 Inmates and grew up on a farm. It is also said they became skilled swimmers, and amazed their siblings by swimming in the frigid waters of Lake Michigan as ice still floated on its surface. I don't know if Morris fell off the raft or if they all did but in either situation I believe the brothers would've stuck together and powered on without Morris. If they had stayed on the raft and made it to land without Morris I can imagine they could've left all the papers they had with them in the water to make it look like they had perished along side Morris, as people would assume they wouldn't leave the papers that were meant to help them behind. I can also imagine that since the only items found in the raincoat bags pointed to the Anglin brothers, the bags could definitely be an attempt to make it look like they had perished. Otherwise if all three of them fell off I can imagine the brothers would've just left everything and swam for their lives. Morris was and Orphan and the oldest out of the 4, where as the Anglin brothers had an obvious drive for family. It just makes too much sense to me that the Anglin brothers pushed through for each other and their families and that Morris couldn't fight anymore. Morris' body was seen by the ship and the Anglin brothers made subtle connections back to their family. I'm not sure what you guys think but that's my two cents.
Your an absolute genius!!! I think your theory is the most likely thing that has happened. Though I wish, if one of them were to live up to 99 years, they would tell the whole story, just for everybody to know what had happened.
reading your comment made me wonder if the purpose of the bags with photos was to leave them in the water and make authorities believe they had died.
i definitely could believe this there's so much that make sense here
Great!!
Komalpreet Brar Or hopefully record it some how! 😮
It's weird to think that Alcatraz was absolutely unescapable yet people escaped and the titanic was said as unsinkable yet it sunk...
LouiePK Ikr
Lol both those locations are bo4 zombies maps xD
Coincidence, I think not
That, my friend, is why we shouldn't brag about human's creations.
True that
maybe people should start saying "itś escapable AF" or " this is the most sinkable ship ever made" and things will work just the way they "skould" because of Murphy's laws
Poor Frank and Allen deserved better childhoods. In prison by the time they were 13 and 14? :(
I want to hug them both.
Alcatraz: You will never escape from Me!
Frank Morris: hold my spoon
fransisco jordan “actually ima need the 🥄 back”
I’m seeing a pattern here, spoons are powerful af.
Hold my paper mache head
Frank Morris: I’m about to end this whole prisons career
HOLD MY RAINCOATS
Do you not think that the plan was so detailed and ingenious, that they simply could have planted the life-jackets and raincoat bags with their personal effects to mislead the FBI?
Margot wow. This is actually plausible.
i thought of that too , they got away and sent all that to shore
Margot I can totally see that, it’d be easy to throw a nice red herring like that.
i also think so, they did it to mislead
Or alternatively, with the bags of belongings, they were thrown out to reduce weight on the raft- then the life jackets were discarded at shore into the sea, rather than leaving them to mark their landing ground.
They should make a Netflix show on the Alcatraz escape.
they shooouullldddd
Why ? The Shawshank redemption has already been made years ago.
Escape from Alcatraz movie is on Netflix.
Kal-Gelo Trinidad is it documentary-like?
AfroNinjas Actually it isn't... it's a classic movie from '79, it stars Clint Eastwood as Morris, seeing it would be good though, if you want an insight of the occurrence out of the movie.
to think that in the MCU, Frank Morris had a Variant who became Casey the TVA worker
I watched this a few hours before the episode aired by happenstance and had to come back here afterwards to see if it was the same people. What are the odds?
I was rooting for them even though they are criminals
Honestly though... I really hope they made it.
It’s very likely for them to escape
Watch prison break
@@MsJillVicius facts
Just this once
Waking up at 7 am, getting a hot shower, having a "happy hour" everyday, being allowed to move into a cell closer to your homies - this prison doesn't seem half-bad.
Jainil Ajmera have it better than homeless
Me and the bois in jail
The food in there was also really good, like exquisite, cos they believed in the whole you are what you eat thing
So i'm a cookie then
I always thought Alcatraz was a really horrible prison, water boarding and torture from the guards and such. Never knew it was actually okay.
titanic. unsinkable.
alcatraz. inescapable.
hotel. trivago.
lilyanna 😂😂😂😂
Lolll
@@gabby9486 why
lilyanna bro I luv this
lilyanna lol😂😂😂
Dude just imagine you and your homies all planning for this escape for months and you all are so exited to leave but you get left behind. And the whole time you’re just feeling devastated knowing that you’re peers are all out there living their lives again. And you’re still stuck there...
Imagine their son or grandson watching this and they'll be like, "well my grandpa used to tell that story and it was more detailed" and suddenly realized that fact lmao
I'd be shook
Them: Hmmm this sounds familiar.... OH SHI-
😂
That was my great grandfather, it was more detailed. It’s crazy how actually cash can’t really be traced like he said, even til today I still hold his word.
I would be shooketh. Like “Huh. That’s weir- HOLY SHITE”
The fact that Allen hasn’t alerted the authorities immediately, even though he was left behind..
It means that Allen was left behind in purpose.. In order to fool guards, that other 3 guys can escape for sure...
Buy anyways I'm so sorry for him..
IDK why :/
i don’t think allen was apart of the plan. i think they might’ve left him to use him and then in hopes when they went to wake them up in the morning him being there would buy them more time than 4 fake dummies. they could’ve also realized 4 people would be too heavy and one of the two brothers weren’t going to get left and if the guy who went with the brothers was a big part of the plan allen was screwed from the beginning if someone had to get cut. i believe they fooled everyone until the very end by purposely leaving the belongings telling allen they were going to angel island and the real plan was to follow the current.
If the 3 did try helping Allen the whole plan would probably go wrong, but there’s a chance all 4 planned to leave Allen to fool the guards
@@uzhollywood5044 the thing is, i'm pretty sure allen was the brains behind the plan. that being said he either wanted to help his 3 friends out and sacrifice himself (because he didn't have much left of his sentence anyway) or they were dirty and left him behind on purpose in the last moment.
Erik maybe it was a mixture of both. maybe they realized someone had to stay in order to leave and never truly discussed it and they just left without him knowing. i’m still sure the reason he was left tho was because the brothers weren’t going to separate and the other dude was there maybe before the man who was left ( i forgot the names of them i watched this 2 weeks)
I wonder if the three escapees are still alive and just spend their days watching these videos laughing.
COYS
Could be
DIY ARMY
one of them send a letter to the FBI, they made it. i do not know if it was confirmed to be true or false. but i would like to think that it is :)
Maurits no that’s falso
I mean, the MythBusters did an episode all about the Alcatraz escape and they actually attempted it themselves, and if my memory serves me right, I do believe they succeeded. So I believe that their survival was very likely.
Yes. They used period accurate raincoats , materials, and the exact methods the inmates used. The only thing they didn’t do was inflate the raft with a modified musical instrument (because how it got inflated really didn’t matter). They also launched in identical weather conditions and temperatures, and successfully made it to the mainland. They showed that it wasn’t just feasible, but likely that the inmates survived.
this whole unsolved show should be on netflix
Fully agree
Hell yeah
I just found out it’s on hulu
Yarines Martinez Why if it’s already on TH-cam for free? 😂
It's on prime
It would be really cool if you guys made a poll and had viewers vote for which theory they believe! It would be interesting to see the actual numbers!
Natalie Marie That's such a good idea! They could have a poll for each video for people to vote for who they think did it etc
Would love to see this!
Neat idea!!
What if the brothers escape and reveal themselves at the age of 100. No one can convicted them due to the case is already close. Plus that would be so badass.
Arif Aiman ikr
cxlvb Statue of limitations, bro.
well ya know, they only got a few years to do that. i cant wait to see if that happens or not
Allen was left behind and yet didn’t call for the guards to rat out his cellmates. I think this may mean that’d he also be willing to give the wrong story about their escape plan to the authorities (and still get good behaviour privilege for it). Can’t say he was a good man, but he probably was a loyal one.
"hey guys time to wake up. wakey wakey"
*head falls off*
"this isnt right"
*applause*
I almost spit out my drink thanks to you
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*surprised Pikachu face*
"Somthing weird's going on"
"You dont say weasel"
"WHERE ARE THOSE SCREAMS COMIN' FROM??"
they 100% escaped, the belongings they found? They obviously purposely ditched those to pretend they died...
They did escape..
Or had to sacrifice weight on the raft to keep it afloat
maybe the boat didn't last and they didn't care to take it back too the shore with them
also possible that it sank before they could find it after being thrown in water
@fast AiR I was thinking similar. I thought maybe that the boat was too small and their bags were taking up space so they had to ditch it?
I think we are being to hopeful, it’s not impossible that they died, I mean it’s a raft made of coats
I've been to Alcatraz twice and it truly is beautiful there actually. They had loads of luxuries for a prison. There were even houses on Alcatraz with some of the prison worker's wives and children. They even had beautiful gardens. They were lucky to be there instead of somewhere so bleak. They even had libraries, huge rec halls and had shows and movies for entertainment.
It’s also haunted
@@Soul56293 well so is the infamous Mansfield Reformatory (the one from Shawshank Redemption) but it actually ended up way worse than Alcatraz and I'm pretty sure it was known to be quite abusive to the inmates
@@abenirart I've been there as well thrice; it was (in my opinion) worse. It was alot more labor intensive and they were tortured horribly.
i grew up in san francisco, and shane's right, the bay is terrifying. we were always told not to go far out in the water, because the currents get crazy and the bottom is really inconsistent. You could take one step and be completely underwater
Damn knock on wood
Alcatraz - People escaped
Titian - It Sank
Soviet Union - Collapsed
My dad - left
Andrew Jackson LaRance i cried at this
パンパン 😂
🤣
Hotel? Trivago
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at this point i hoped they escaped and made it, all of their crimes seemed to be out of money needs and they don’t seem to have ever intentionally harmed someone either, they’re not the best people but that was one hell of a plan and i have no doubt the last phase of their plan consisted of getting the police to think they perished during the escape by planting those items, good job boyss
Josh Anderson they did survive
Sorry man but,
N O O N E E S C A P E S A L I V E
- B
Their wives said that they would never hurt anyone but were just dirt poor.
@@SHADE-EYE MOTD?
@@victormancinas5081 Yep!
I imagine all three of the men are watching this laughing
“The bags and raincoats worked boys! Threw off the FBI!”
Emma H. lmao
Ayy Lmao
-Vine
Damn, for real though💯😂😭💀
Creepy that would be. What if years and years later they themselves go for a tourist tour of Alcatraz and reminisce the times?
They survived they sent a letter to the fbi
Okay but the fact that Allen was the one who initiated the plan, but was left behind... A tragedy, it's worse than a tragedy to me. But I don't blame the others ofc, I mean they couldn't have known if Allen did break through from his cell or not, and when they would've realised that Allen was left behind, it was too late....
He didn’t initiate the plan he was just a tag along who helped get some cement glue and paint. The mastermind was frank morris
Imagine them watching this and said "hehehe, i remember when that jackass can't get his vent open"
Only 2 are alive. The other one that escaped died of unknown causes, aged 88.
Moo 2310 source?
@@randomportugal3713 I'm too lazy to find the source. Was a video on youtube. If I recall correctly, it was by the infographics show.
Moo 2310 lmao the infographics show is not a reliable source for any information. it’s the Troom Troom of “facts”
@@gwencocoa lol
Anyone wondering if the bags of personal belongings was just a prop left behind by the escapees to make it look like they didn’t make it to land? Seems like a possibility after all the genius ideas by the prisoners
R Allen I agree.
thinking the same
exactly, or maybe it was even out of necessity to reduce weight and keep the raft afloat
Honestly, i kind of hope they survived. Smart as hell plan, they kind of deserve to live? Theyre still criminals but hey, extremely smart!
And they weren't there for killing anyone, so like... nbd.
one dude recently came out of hiding and said he was the only one to survive. that’s what my grandma said
izzydog007 I looked it up and the guy claimed they all survived just barely tho
izzydog007 where was this??? link??
100%. They were gangsters haha this was so cool
This escape was so epic that it single-handedly tore apart Alcatraz's reputation and got it to shut down.
Honestly right now they could be sitting in a beach restaurant in Brazil sipping their margaritas and saying, “ yo anglin! Remember when we escaped that prison?”
Except for the part that they wouldn’t call eachother by their last names
“yo brother! Remember when we escaped that prison?”
Sounds like Hannibal Lecter from the end of Silence of the Lambs.
today all three of them are in the 90's
Imagine them in like their 90s just renting a small bar and having a few drinks like “cheers to that one time we escape the inescapable prison”
Damn bruh they wake up at 7:00 in the morning in prison, and im out here waking up at 6:00 just to get to school on time smh
I would be ok with this staying unsolved because I really want to believe they managed to escape and were somewhere drinking and having fun and staying out of trouble, living their best life. Sucks that West wasn't able to get out but I'm really rooting for other three.
They'd all be about 90 now so I like to imagine 3 old dudes drinking some whiskey and laughing about not getting caught and the idiot with the too small vent.
Here are some things I want to point out.
1. I think they tested the raft in that work shop for leaks and to see if it would hold all 4 guys without losing air.
2. There’s a good possibility those guys trained their selves to physically help withstand that water as a back up plan. They could’ve taken ice baths or something equivalent to help them get used to that cold water and I’m sure they worked out a lot to keep in shape while also staying small enough to fit through the duct work.
3. I think the maintenance guy was in on it considering they probably wouldn’t have found that workshop and a lot of the tools without him.
4. The chances of them surviving in the U.S without being caught is very slim so I do think they fled to another country.
5. They could’ve been using those bags to keep the water out of the raft from the harsh waters and that’s how they lost that sealed bag filled with letters.
I like to believe that they survived. The fact that they never recovered the bodies says a lot. Also back then, times were different so they probably had outside help from family members that helped them get settled and possibly change their names. They probably moved to another country, possibly Brasil? Hence the photo. You have to give them credit for pulling off the biggest and most successful prison break of all times. Ps, I feel really bad for the one who got left behind
Out of all the crimes in this series, I hope they survived too.
Listen to the Criminal podcast about this escape. Their sister never heard from them, although some family members claimed to have seen them at a funeral
Imagine Frank or the Anglin brothers watching this and laughing.
Mumbo Starlow OH JUST IMAGINE THEM LAUGHING AT YOUR COMMENT. THAN LAUGHING AT MINE.
Leek la IMAGINE THEM LAUGHING AT THAT GUYS COMMENT THEN LAUGHING AT YOURS THEN AT MINE
Kailey Sharp IMAGINE THEM LAUGHING AT THAT GUYS COMMENT THEN LAUGHING AT MY COMMENT THAN YOUR COMMENT ANS THEN MY COMMENT
Leek la IMAGINE THEM LAUGHING AT THOSE GUYS COMMENT THEN YOUR COMMENT THEN MY COMMENT
IMAGINE TTHHEM LAUGHING AT THIS VIDEO THEN LAUGHING AT YOUR REPLY THEN LAUGHING AT ME
I think you deserve a Netflix Show
rexfist180 noooo! I dont have a netflix subscription
they’re on hulu
rexfist180 stfu
Ejaz Dil Hossain ...
@@oof3105 yea?