That follow through at the end of the front side of his kick (down on freestyle, up in back stroke) actually produces negative thrust. That can better be seen if you have hands on the edge of the pool and are doing the flutter kick there rather than when actually in motion. The bubble plumes are a huge give away in that. A similar thing I have seen is some swimmers who can push bubble plumes down to the bottom of a 5 foot deep pool, which means that the power part of the kick is all going down and not back. Going pigeon toed is another huge benefit for flutter and dolphin kick. After seeing that in one of Gary Hall Sr's videos of the Israeli swimmer Marcus some one.... and one other swimmer, that idea changed my kicking forever. Also interesting in that video was one young woman who generated more thrust from her back side dolphin kick than she did on the front side dolphin kick.... Not positive why his feet and hips seemed to be a bit low. The kick may have been a small part of that. He did seem to engage the core fairly well for his full stroke, but rotation timing may not have been totally correct. For sure, catch and high elbow could use some work. He does lift his head a bit high to breathe. Interesting that for some of his video, he was breathing every 3rd arm stroke, and for some of the rest, he was gallop style, every other stroke. Interesting point with the gallop style, with the quick 1, 2, then slight pause, for half the cycle, you have both arms in front quadrant, and in second half of the cycle, the arms are not in the front quadrant.
Heyy Robo, could you link the video you talk about here, please? I feel like the kicking is where i struggle the most, i really would like to improve in that particular area.
This is a problem im struggling with (the arm dropping when i go to breathe), im conscious of this, but i cant really help it im finding, i need to push the arm down to counterbalance the body. I think what might be happening is im not rotating my neck enough, which means im rotating my body more to raise my head to breathe, which means there is less surface area so the body sinks more, so the arm has to start dropping to push water down to counterbalance.... Im not certain of this, but im suspecting that's at least part of the problem. I physically cant keep my arm out in front to post the letter without my head sinking under when i try to breathe. I suspect my rotation is more dramatic than the person in this video, but i do see them rotating more on their breath than when theyre not breathing. So that could also be a reason why they are dropping that front arm early when they breathe; in order to counterbalance their over-rotated body.
I respectfully add that due to his low elbow catch - he is pushing "down" on the water - instead of pushing "back" . So his upper body goes up - and his legs/hips go down.
agree with you.....as well as visualizing "reaching over a barrel" to get the elbow up. BTW the thing that helped me (as i used to push "down" as opposed to "back") was sculling. Even now when i get tired/fatigued it is a bad habit that can creep in.
My legs stay up on the water when I use the kick board. Without the kick board I have trouble making my arms stay up on the water to swim Without the kick board. I tumble forward not backward when I try to swim Without the kick board. Why.
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That follow through at the end of the front side of his kick (down on freestyle, up in back stroke) actually produces negative thrust. That can better be seen if you have hands on the edge of the pool and are doing the flutter kick there rather than when actually in motion. The bubble plumes are a huge give away in that. A similar thing I have seen is some swimmers who can push bubble plumes down to the bottom of a 5 foot deep pool, which means that the power part of the kick is all going down and not back. Going pigeon toed is another huge benefit for flutter and dolphin kick. After seeing that in one of Gary Hall Sr's videos of the Israeli swimmer Marcus some one.... and one other swimmer, that idea changed my kicking forever. Also interesting in that video was one young woman who generated more thrust from her back side dolphin kick than she did on the front side dolphin kick....
Not positive why his feet and hips seemed to be a bit low. The kick may have been a small part of that. He did seem to engage the core fairly well for his full stroke, but rotation timing may not have been totally correct. For sure, catch and high elbow could use some work. He does lift his head a bit high to breathe. Interesting that for some of his video, he was breathing every 3rd arm stroke, and for some of the rest, he was gallop style, every other stroke. Interesting point with the gallop style, with the quick 1, 2, then slight pause, for half the cycle, you have both arms in front quadrant, and in second half of the cycle, the arms are not in the front quadrant.
Heyy Robo, could you link the video you talk about here, please? I feel like the kicking is where i struggle the most, i really would like to improve in that particular area.
I hope Brenton doesn't mind, but this changed my kicking entirely: th-cam.com/video/vY6GxQqAkuQ/w-d-xo.html
@@robohippy thank you so much!
Nice clip thanks Brent. Good to see you mention the momentum of the head turn related to catch timing.
This is a problem im struggling with (the arm dropping when i go to breathe), im conscious of this, but i cant really help it im finding, i need to push the arm down to counterbalance the body. I think what might be happening is im not rotating my neck enough, which means im rotating my body more to raise my head to breathe, which means there is less surface area so the body sinks more, so the arm has to start dropping to push water down to counterbalance.... Im not certain of this, but im suspecting that's at least part of the problem. I physically cant keep my arm out in front to post the letter without my head sinking under when i try to breathe.
I suspect my rotation is more dramatic than the person in this video, but i do see them rotating more on their breath than when theyre not breathing. So that could also be a reason why they are dropping that front arm early when they breathe; in order to counterbalance their over-rotated body.
Helpful explanation of how not swimming front quadrant can keep hips rotated during pull, disrupting the power of the pull.
Thanks, I would like to see more of these feedback video's.
My swim coach here in Germany called that mistake a windmill swim, missing that reach- out phase (in front) not straightening over the whole length...
I respectfully add that due to his low elbow catch - he is pushing "down" on the water - instead of pushing "back" . So his upper body goes up - and his legs/hips go down.
agree with you.....as well as visualizing "reaching over a barrel" to get the elbow up. BTW the thing that helped me (as i used to push "down" as opposed to "back") was sculling. Even now when i get tired/fatigued it is a bad habit that can creep in.
Can you expand on that response, i have the same issue of "pushing down" on the water
Thanks for your sharing
Always great video
Your videos are awesome 👍😊
Thanks for the informative video
Thanks Brenton - pretty much the same things you’ve been telling me via the stroke analysis- nice to see I’m not the only one working on these areas.
I found drill my hands deeper could make me move towards farther and lighter
My legs stay up on the water when I use the kick board. Without the kick board I have trouble making my arms stay up on the water to swim Without the kick board. I tumble forward not backward when I try to swim Without the kick board. Why.
what is the link for your video membership?
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As a student of Coach Brenton, it is suggested that you can purchase an annual membership first, so that you can improve your swimming system and adhere to the habits first, and then join his more advanced membership class, where you will progress faster.
Dolphin kick video?
I believe the word 'stroke' should be changed to discourage from stroking water.