Honestly I love that RTD has decided to use the 60th anniversary purely as an excuse to do fix-fics for a bunch of companions. Pure fanservice, but I love it.
I love the implication that if he hadn’t had his mind wiped, Jamie would have remained with The Doctor till the day he died. Jamie was truly the first ride or die companion
I feel like what made Jamie and Zoe really stand out from other 1960s companions is that they weren't always trying to get home again like Ian and Barbara or Ben and Polly or there because they didn't have anywhere else to go like Vicky or Victoria but they stood out as travelling with the Doctor out of a genuine desire for adventure and a love of travelling in the Tardis.
@@bloodmoon0205 Steven also had that thing pf joining out of a genuine love for adventure at first, but having to go through the events of The Myth Makers, Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre essentially broke his spirit and turned him into nothing more than the stick in the mud keeping The Doctor and Dodo from getting themselves killed
When they pulled out the recorder, I damn near cried. Two’s run means so much to me, being passed down from my mother to me, and this is an incredible tribute to it.
@praisesolek...you did better than me then. Minute I saw the recorder I started blubbing like a baby. Seeing Jaimie&Zoe again like this is bittersweet.
Patrick Troughton is one of my favourite Doctors. My Mum watched his original run between 1966-1969. She was a bit too young to have watched the Hartnell years. She always said that Troughton and Tom Baker were her favourites. She introduced me to the few reruns of what remained of the Troughton era in the early 1990s. I think "The Mind Robber" was the first one I ever saw. I remember finding the Clockwork Soldiers really creepy!
@@ianhirst1148a now, he has passed. He may no longer be with us but he will always be remembered by all Whovians, now and in the future. The one and only Ian Chatterton
I love how Jamie and Zoe's relationship was basically that of siblings. They might not have always seen eye to eye, but they cared for each other deeply. The author of this script captured that very well. Thanks for posting this.
More class and substance in 5 minutes of Zoe and Jamie than all the politically patronising shows. Sometimes you just have to let characters speak for themselves. David
Frasier Hines and Wendy Padbury have such great chemistry together- they are like brother and sister! And Jamie mentioning Victoria Waterfield (the late Deborah Watling)- he never forgot her!
I loved that and it was smart of the producers to go in that direction after Victoria left. Jamie clearly had feelings for Victoria, and instead of doing a retread of that, they breathed new life into the show and gave it a new dynamic.
So sad much of their work with Patrick Troughton was lost, as was Debbie Watling's outright lovely Victoria. But we still have some to watch again. Hope this whole package makes it's way across the pond soon.
When I read you post I realised the unintentional connection that their memories were erased in-universe at the end of Troughton's run, and we have lost many of his episodes as well...
@@mrcritical6751 the BBC have a long history of disregarding their own produce though, it fits their character. They never regarded Dr Who that highly until Davies came along and made it commercially viable, then all of a sudden they were fully behind the program. Utterly pathetic.
"I've missed him every day of my life..." was that an off-the-cuff ad lib from Frazer remembering his friend and mentor, gone for so long now, and way too soon...?
Oh you should see Patrick's son Michael on Big Finish as he has taken over for his Father in Big Finish "James Robert McCrimmon. The jokes of those 2 are back.
I'll always remember the story of the hand holding story in the Tomb of the Cybermen. Frazer and Patrick talked about it off screen as it wasn't in the script, it looks slightly odd because they didn't know where the bottom of the shot was
Jamie remembers the events of the Highlanders so he did remember The Doctot, Ben and Polly but everything after entering the Tardis was erased so sadly he didn't remember Victoria. Zoe likewise remembered everything in the Wheel in Space bar sneaking in the Tardis. Tanya asked her if The Doctor and Jamie had gone and she said she'd just seen them off. The Timelord said they'd remember their first adventure/Their meetinf but nothing more.
Well from having a close friend called Jamie it probably meant she stored in her brain that Jamie was a good name and so even after the contextual memories were erased she still would have liked the name Jamie and so called her son James subconsciously
Ah! I am dead, I have died. This is the loveliest thing possible. Zoe is so cute! So sparkly! And Jamie looks VERY smart. And they are both just absolutely the best. Awwww.
What a beautiful scene. I hope Jamie and Zoe get to retain their memories this time. But if not, it heartening to know their adventures with the Doctor and their friends, still had an influence on their lives after the TARDIS. ❤❤
Love this one. If another memory erased companion is (presumably) about to get her time with the Doctor restored in the upcoming Season 4 Anniversary specials, then it's only right that Jamie and Zoe do too. Especially as they've had to wait a whole lot longer!
2nd/Jamie/Zoe is my favorite TARDIS group. So fun to watch, but they also had one of the more tragic departures since it was against everyone's will at the time.
Thank you for uploading! Oh that bit at the end, thinking of Victoria, of Deborah Watling being gone... hits me in the feels. 😢 This is a much better end for Zoe than the audios gave her. I suppose you can say this happens after her experiences with Second Chances, but this does sort of trample on her getting her memories back on her own, at least some of them, after people tried to pry them out of her. Jamie had that lady on Helicon Prime try to get in his head too IIRC but he forgot everything again I believe.
The Doctor isn't just Susan's grandfather. He's the grandfather of the universe teaching his ideals of peace, love and adventure to the children of the cosmos 😊
They are out there on DVD. You will find them entertaining. The Fourth Doctor was my first Doctor but if I had to choose a favorite, the Second Doctor is likely to be my answer on most days.
It's wonderful to see them again after all these years. I must admit it was an emotional experience for me especially when they found the second doctor's recorder.
"I miss him every day of my life." Me too Frazier, Doctor Who played a big part in my adult life with seeing myself as The Doctor with Autism and now going to medical school.
The best moment was Jame and the doctor holding hands mistaking it for Zoe's. Apparently that bit was not scripted and they plotted it before that scene was filmed and of course in those days they were not allowed to do lot a lot of takes as most scenes had to be done in one take
It was apparently normal for Patrick and Frazier to do stuff like that. There was a producer who absolutely hated men touching each other due to his own homophobia so they’d improvise The Doctor and Jamie touching each other as much as possible to mess with him
Arrrrrrr….This is REALLY MOVING..I always wanted them to get their memories back and re-discover each other and their shared memories of the Doctor.😊 ❤❤❤ …’never forget. Ever again’ 🙏
Oh good one with the full thing. And it mentions Jamie's kids! Though unfortunately it seems he lost 2 or 3. He said in an expanded universe he had 'more than there are days in the week'.
Tales of the TARDIS ep 2: The Mind Robber -Frazer Hines - Jamie -Wendy Padbury - Zoe Featuring: -Patrick Troughton - Second Doctor -Deborah Watling - Victoria Now, Jamie and Victoria are older But Jamie still has his Scottish upbeatness, not to mention an undying loyalty to the Doctor. And Zoe seems more mature, but still has her younger energy within her spirit. They still have the energy young Frazer and Wendy had back in the 60s.
This one made me stop and reflect; November 1963 I discovered Dr Who and was captivated by it. November 1964 I met a beautiful young woman that still has me captivated. Sixty years just a blink! I heard the good Doctor once say " be serious about what you do, but not necessarily in the way you do it" It's worked for me sofar........
Someone said about 20 years ago that there's a portrait hidden away somewhere of Wendy Padbury looking old, and I think watching this that statement is still 100% valid. She must have great genes.
My romantic heart broke when Jamie remembered Victoria. I read a fanfiction that had Jamie and Victoria meet up again in some time travel shenanigans and I wish this was canon.
Heather McCrimmon was a comic companion who traveled with the 10th Doctor and carried Jamie's inherited Artron radiation from the TARDIS in her DNA. A few audios, short stories and those comics have depicted or mentioned some more of his ancestors and descendants from his five daughters and at least three sons (more children than there are days in the week). Victoria lived out the rest of her life from the 1960s, so her grandchildren would actually be present-day.
I first saw Jamie and Zoe on vhs in the late '80's when i was about 10 to 12 years old. Loved Jamie and had a crush on Zoe, all these years later they both look healthy and rather marvellous.
Living in 'The States', didn't afford me to watch all the Who's.. Yet I spent any chance I could, to watch.. Seeing the aged, ol gang, made me realize just how old that I've become.. Those and these days still leave my yearning for the sound of the most iconic sound.. The Tardis ! I would love to see this pan out.. Could You..!..? With love and Thanks, nite all..
I would love to see Jamie meet up with 15 so bad. 15 even wears a kilt too when he was clubbing in The Church on Ruby Road. Hell, Jamie meeting up with 7 and 12 too would be great!
I love that it's now canon that they have their memories back.
Honestly I love that RTD has decided to use the 60th anniversary purely as an excuse to do fix-fics for a bunch of companions. Pure fanservice, but I love it.
best think modern doctor who has done
@@hotelmario510 Wibbity Wobley. Forgive me on the spelling.
Love the fact that they've given older Jamie a bit of Patrick Troughton's appearance.
If you've ever listened to Frazier on BIG FINISH he does a dead-on impression of Patrick.
I love the implication that if he hadn’t had his mind wiped, Jamie would have remained with The Doctor till the day he died. Jamie was truly the first ride or die companion
Remember, Frazer Hines and Patrick Troughton shipped it and did their best to get that shipping past the censors.
@@PosthumanHeresy wasn’t it more that there was a producer who feared they looked gay so Patrick and Frazer chose to troll him by appearing super gay?
@@mrcritical6751 Wow, that's wild that they were trolling like that in those days. That could have had consequences.
I feel like what made Jamie and Zoe really stand out from other 1960s companions is that they weren't always trying to get home again like Ian and Barbara or Ben and Polly or there because they didn't have anywhere else to go like Vicky or Victoria but they stood out as travelling with the Doctor out of a genuine desire for adventure and a love of travelling in the Tardis.
@@bloodmoon0205 Steven also had that thing pf joining out of a genuine love for adventure at first, but having to go through the events of The Myth Makers, Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre essentially broke his spirit and turned him into nothing more than the stick in the mud keeping The Doctor and Dodo from getting themselves killed
When they pulled out the recorder, I damn near cried. Two’s run means so much to me, being passed down from my mother to me, and this is an incredible tribute to it.
Same here
❤
@praisesolek...you did better than me then. Minute I saw the recorder I started blubbing like a baby. Seeing Jaimie&Zoe again like this is bittersweet.
Patrick Troughton is one of my favourite Doctors. My Mum watched his original run between 1966-1969. She was a bit too young to have watched the Hartnell years. She always said that Troughton and Tom Baker were her favourites. She introduced me to the few reruns of what remained of the Troughton era in the early 1990s. I think "The Mind Robber" was the first one I ever saw. I remember finding the Clockwork Soldiers really creepy!
Two was real Doctor Who, unlike all the New Who.
So glad that finally decided to do something like this while the actors are still alive.❤
That’s what was great in Jodie Whitakers run that Ian Chesterton came back at the end - the link to the first doctor.
Yeah, it was good to see him again and some of the other companions after so long. @@ianhirst1148
@@ianhirst1148a now, he has passed. He may no longer be with us but he will always be remembered by all Whovians, now and in the future. The one and only Ian Chatterton
Pisses me off that it took them this long.
I love how Jamie and Zoe's relationship was basically that of siblings. They might not have always seen eye to eye, but they cared for each other deeply. The author of this script captured that very well. Thanks for posting this.
More class and substance in 5 minutes of Zoe and Jamie than all the politically patronising shows. Sometimes you just have to let characters speak for themselves.
David
Wish there were more episodes of them around. Jamie and the Doctor solo were pretty good stories as well.
Frasier Hines and Wendy Padbury have such great chemistry together- they are like brother and sister! And Jamie mentioning Victoria Waterfield (the late Deborah Watling)- he never forgot her!
@@jeannehall6546 YES
I loved that and it was smart of the producers to go in that direction after Victoria left. Jamie clearly had feelings for Victoria, and instead of doing a retread of that, they breathed new life into the show and gave it a new dynamic.
So sad much of their work with Patrick Troughton was lost, as was Debbie Watling's outright lovely Victoria. But we still have some to watch again. Hope this whole package makes it's way across the pond soon.
When I read you post I realised the unintentional connection that their memories were erased in-universe at the end of Troughton's run, and we have lost many of his episodes as well...
Considering the ridiculously short sighted junking policy be thankful any of it survived at all cos now these guys can be remembered.
"It's all back... every moment..." Not quite Zoe
@@JohnBloggs-m8lthe weird part of the short sightedness was the fact that consistently, it was introductory and exit episodes that got junked
@@mrcritical6751 the BBC have a long history of disregarding their own produce though, it fits their character. They never regarded Dr Who that highly until Davies came along and made it commercially viable, then all of a sudden they were fully behind the program. Utterly pathetic.
"I've missed him every day of my life..." was that an off-the-cuff ad lib from Frazer remembering his friend and mentor, gone for so long now, and way too soon...?
The relationship Frazer had with Patrick was terrific. The fun they brought to the show was stuff of legends
Oh you should see Patrick's son Michael on Big Finish as he has taken over for his Father in Big Finish "James Robert McCrimmon. The jokes of those 2 are back.
I'll always remember the story of the hand holding story in the Tomb of the Cybermen. Frazer and Patrick talked about it off screen as it wasn't in the script, it looks slightly odd because they didn't know where the bottom of the shot was
Will have to show this to my Dad, he was a Troughton kid and we've watched them together as they gradually released them on DVD.
Did you show it him yet
@@davidcrazyrides He thought it was really quite sweet - though he mostly remembers Jamie and Victoria rather than Zoe.
@@JavertRA thats cool wished Doctor who was well written like this in the last 6 years
My goodness, Zoe's face hasn't changed at all, just as cute as ever!
If Zoe named her son after Jamie, then there must have been some residual memories remaining even after the Time Lords wiped their memories.
That’s the point.
Jamie remembers the events of the Highlanders so he did remember The Doctot, Ben and Polly but everything after entering the Tardis was erased so sadly he didn't remember Victoria.
Zoe likewise remembered everything in the Wheel in Space bar sneaking in the Tardis. Tanya asked her if The Doctor and Jamie had gone and she said she'd just seen them off.
The Timelord said they'd remember their first adventure/Their meetinf but nothing more.
Zoe mentioned it was like in the back of her head. Like subconsciously
@@Mxyzptlksacrewatch the war games. Zoe tells Tanya she just saw them off and the timelord saod the story they met they will remember
Well from having a close friend called Jamie it probably meant she stored in her brain that Jamie was a good name and so even after the contextual memories were erased she still would have liked the name Jamie and so called her son James subconsciously
Nothing makes you cry buckets like the Classic Who companions.
And Wilf.
Nice to see those two resolved. They deserved this. Great hat tip to Victoria who's portrayer sadly passed. I got to meet Frazier Hines twice.
Me too, he used to do the local Christmas pantomime for years in the late 1980s and 1990s. Really lovely guy in person! 😊
I just met him at Gallifrey One! He was great
I met him and Wendy at Chicago TARDIS a couple years ago they were nice
Dude. They gave them their memory back. That's the best.
Amen to that. The best justice for Jamie and Zoe.
Beautifully done very poignant. A thoughtful present to loyal Dr Who fans who have followed the show since childhood.❤
Its wonderful seeing Frazer hines and Zoe Padbury again.
Wendy Padbury isn't it? Zoe was the character 😊
@@jamesstewart7736 thanks I had forgotten her name..
Ah! I am dead, I have died. This is the loveliest thing possible. Zoe is so cute! So sparkly! And Jamie looks VERY smart. And they are both just absolutely the best. Awwww.
What a beautiful scene. I hope Jamie and Zoe get to retain their memories this time. But if not, it heartening to know their adventures with the Doctor and their friends, still had an influence on their lives after the TARDIS. ❤❤
Love this one. If another memory erased companion is (presumably) about to get her time with the Doctor restored in the upcoming Season 4 Anniversary specials, then it's only right that Jamie and Zoe do too. Especially as they've had to wait a whole lot longer!
DAMN STRAIGHT -- FINALLY some closure for Jamie and Zoe!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2nd/Jamie/Zoe is my favorite TARDIS group. So fun to watch, but they also had one of the more tragic departures since it was against everyone's will at the time.
Beautiful Memories of Patrick Troughton.❤
I'm not tearing up, YOU'RE tearing up! lol I love this. Russell T. Davies really is giving us fans a treat with all these Tales. Bravo!
I would LOVE to just spend an hour on that set looking at all the stuff.
I realized that this is a dementia's patient's dream - to remember with clairity, and to pass those memories on.
the two of them officially having their memories restored is one of the best things to come out of current doctor who
"All the things he taught us. I've been using them every day of my life." ❤
Beautiful. It's sad that Patrick wasn't there to mark the occasion as well, but I know somewhere out there he enjoyed it.
Thank you for uploading!
Oh that bit at the end, thinking of Victoria, of Deborah Watling being gone... hits me in the feels. 😢
This is a much better end for Zoe than the audios gave her. I suppose you can say this happens after her experiences with Second Chances, but this does sort of trample on her getting her memories back on her own, at least some of them, after people tried to pry them out of her. Jamie had that lady on Helicon Prime try to get in his head too IIRC but he forgot everything again I believe.
The Doctor isn't just Susan's grandfather. He's the grandfather of the universe teaching his ideals of peace, love and adventure to the children of the cosmos 😊
That's good
Thank you for posting these. I've no idea how I'd see them here in America.
Jamie and Zoe was before my time, but maybe I'll be able find number 2's old episodes.
They are out there on DVD. You will find them entertaining.
The Fourth Doctor was my first Doctor but if I had to choose a favorite, the Second Doctor is likely to be my answer on most days.
They’re all on BBC iPlayer for the 60th… if you can access it?
@@jontaylor5482- Those of us in the United States cannot. So I was very grateful that this kind person uploaded it.
@@HelenWheelsUtahyou can access the iPlayer with a VPN
It's wonderful to see them again after all these years. I must admit it was an emotional experience for me especially when they found the second doctor's recorder.
"I miss him every day of my life." Me too Frazier, Doctor Who played a big part in my adult life with seeing myself as The Doctor with Autism and now going to medical school.
I like them getting their memories back
Zoe's cadence is still the same after all these years!
she's incredible!! they both are!
Them and The Second Doctor still remain my favourite Tardis team.
Lovely, and thanks for putting at least this tiny snippet, some of us would get nothing otherwise.
Thanks for this it is wonderful to see. Jamie and Zoe were great companions to the Doctor.
Back where it all began . Thank you for giving more than is and teaching me to fly .
I love them both but, I spent a good bit of a night hanging out with Frazer and what a lovely man!!
Isn't he just?! So much fun. He's like an instant friend.
The 2nd Doctor is one of my faves!
I have to admit, I started tearing up when Zoe said she named her son after Jamie.
The best moment was Jame and the doctor holding hands mistaking it for Zoe's. Apparently that bit was not scripted and they plotted it before that scene was filmed and of course in those days they were not allowed to do lot a lot of takes as most scenes had to be done in one take
It was apparently normal for Patrick and Frazier to do stuff like that. There was a producer who absolutely hated men touching each other due to his own homophobia so they’d improvise The Doctor and Jamie touching each other as much as possible to mess with him
Arrrrrrr….This is REALLY MOVING..I always wanted them to get their memories back and re-discover each other and their shared memories of the Doctor.😊 ❤❤❤ …’never forget. Ever again’ 🙏
Jamie needs to come back
Jamie now looks a lot like the 2nd Doctor.
a fan since 63, i'm really enjoying these!
This completes the restoration of Patrick Troughton the second of the doctors. 🥰
Two of the very best companions.
That Recorder!
It was great to see these two. Unfortunately I've watched very few of the First and Second Doctor serials.
I knew Zoe could never stay forgetting. Also, of course she's president.
I can't watch any of these without 'getting something in my eyes'.
Why am I crying like a blithering idiot while I watch these? It isn't real, it's a TV show. What is wrong with me?
Because you, me & everyone else who were young love them & consider them FAMILY.
Because it reminds us of our childhood. Well mine anyway!
Pat was my favourite doctor who
Old golden memories are timeless..
because Jamie, Zoe, Pat are our life. and its so incredible to see them together again
I absolutely love you for these. I'm full of tears and yet don't know why.
Your fault.
Oh good one with the full thing. And it mentions Jamie's kids! Though unfortunately it seems he lost 2 or 3. He said in an expanded universe he had 'more than there are days in the week'.
He says he has five daughters. That only means he has at least three sons.
@@NileQT87 whoops, missed the subtlety! Thanks!
This is extraordinary.
Nice reunion
Who wiped your memory? Tiiiimmmmeee Looorrrddddzzzzz!!!! (slow motion running ensues)
So good seeing these two again, I always liked Zoe, and Jamie too.
See Jamie survived the battle
My favorite tardis team
Tales of the TARDIS ep 2: The Mind Robber
-Frazer Hines - Jamie
-Wendy Padbury - Zoe
Featuring:
-Patrick Troughton - Second Doctor
-Deborah Watling - Victoria
Now, Jamie and Victoria are older
But Jamie still has his Scottish upbeatness, not to mention an undying loyalty to the Doctor.
And Zoe seems more mature, but still has her younger energy within her spirit.
They still have the energy young Frazer and Wendy had back in the 60s.
I can't even, Jamie talking about the 2nd Doctor and Victoria makes me cry like a newborn kitten.
I hope Jamie returns to the next season
Gotta say that I didn't think this one would affect me as much as it did.
Thank so much for sharing this posting.
I teared up when she said her son is named James, after Jamie
Thank You from Australia!!! :-)
Needs to be canon. In the fine tradition of DW eventually undoing all its hardest moments. This one really long coming
I think it got confirmed these are canon
Well that's brought tears to my eyes. Oh so long ago, but they both look really well
Wendy Padbury, you are still adorable!
James....Herriot... as in... All Creatures Great and Small? now that would be a crossover!
Especially when they meet Tristan. 🥦
Not if he went by his fathers name, he wouldn't. 🤣🤣🤣
A man is the sum of his memories, a Time Lord more so.
Love these episodes tales of the tardis
Thanks for posting! Here in the US we can't have any of this
oof i watched this while watching the mind robber and seeing the side to side made me tear up. Really cool they did this after all these years
brilliant just brilliant
I love how many of these pay tribute to cast members who have passed. it’s sweet and fitting of the memory tardis concept.
It is a bit sad that Patrick was not here too.
Whohaaa, this had so much love put into it, trying to get the dynamics right & the costumes & everything
I'm not crying...
This one made me stop and reflect; November 1963 I discovered Dr Who and was captivated by it. November 1964 I met a beautiful young woman that still has me captivated. Sixty years just a blink! I heard the good Doctor once say " be serious about what you do, but not necessarily in the way you do it" It's worked for me sofar........
This is lovely ❤
Someone said about 20 years ago that there's a portrait hidden away somewhere of Wendy Padbury looking old, and I think watching this that statement is still 100% valid. She must have great genes.
Wendy Padbury, still as awesome as ever, her smile still infectious.
My romantic heart broke when Jamie remembered Victoria. I read a fanfiction that had Jamie and Victoria meet up again in some time travel shenanigans and I wish this was canon.
I wish Jamie had mentioned the Brigadier.
Brilliantly done.
Legends!
So glad these are on you tube it's the only way we can see them in america.
All of these videos making me ball my eyes out!!🥺🥺😭😭
I’d always imagine Jamie‘s descendants meeting up with Victoria’s grandchildren in present day. 😢
Heather McCrimmon was a comic companion who traveled with the 10th Doctor and carried Jamie's inherited Artron radiation from the TARDIS in her DNA. A few audios, short stories and those comics have depicted or mentioned some more of his ancestors and descendants from his five daughters and at least three sons (more children than there are days in the week).
Victoria lived out the rest of her life from the 1960s, so her grandchildren would actually be present-day.
I first saw Jamie and Zoe on vhs in the late '80's when i was about 10 to 12 years old. Loved Jamie and had a crush on Zoe, all these years later they both look healthy and rather marvellous.
Thank you 👍😊
Excellent
Just finished The War Games for the first time yesteday. So happy this exists
That looked like the time crystal from The Time Monster, 3rd Doctor serial.
Living in 'The States', didn't afford me to watch all the Who's.. Yet I spent any chance I could, to watch.. Seeing the aged, ol gang, made me realize just how old that I've become.. Those and these days still leave my yearning for the sound of the most iconic sound.. The Tardis ! I would love to see this pan out.. Could You..!..? With love and Thanks, nite all..
I would love to see Jamie meet up with 15 so bad. 15 even wears a kilt too when he was clubbing in The Church on Ruby Road. Hell, Jamie meeting up with 7 and 12 too would be great!