This was my first digital DSLR. Fantastic camera for weddings and produces some beautiful almost whimsical images. it also feels like an expensive top of the range camera probably because of the metal body. Even today it is perfectly usable and, in the right conditions. a very capable camera. Thanks for this, Rob.
I bought my 10D when it came out nearly twenty years ago, and it is only the second camera I've ever owned (the first being my beloved AE10, which I purchased new in 1977, and which accompanied me through art school, all over Europe, and outlasted three ex-husbands and countless other life events; at the risk of sounding hyperbolic, parting with it was truly like saying goodbye to a friend). I've thought of upgrading, but the 10D still does everything that I need it to do, and at my age, I'm probably too old to try to learn the technological wizardry of a new camera.
What a great comment! If it ain't broke don't try to fix it! I had the original A1 and loved it in the same way as you describe.. mine eventually had to go as part of a trade in deal for my new EOS 1 cameras back in the 90's. Still miss the cough of the shutter! I am so pleased that you are still rocking it with the 10D. Stay Golden. R
It was the 10D that finally convinced me to cross over from film to the dark side in 2004. I still have two of them and did use one recently but I have upgraded since...not by much chronologically though. I now shoot exclusively on 1D and 1Ds bodies, all Mk2. Back in the day they were $8k+ and $4k+ bodies, I get them for $600 and $400 now with low shutter counts. Still great cameras. I hardly ever use the LCD, spent 40 years without them before digital so that's no loss. Yes the res is lower than modern cameras, especially the 1D (8Mpx) but with software like Topaz Gigapixel you can enlarge 2x or even 4x with no loss of quality to speak of. And with stitching software I can easily produce 60 or even 100Mpx files of static subjects. Yes I could maybe buy a new 100Mpx camera for $8k and new lenses for the same again, then have $16k tied up, no backup body, and a 1000 features I don't need. To be fair maybe 20 features that are nice, but not THAT nice. I think that cameras have reached the place that word processors and spreadsheets reached years ago, IE, they already do 5x what we need but the manufacturers have to invent new baubles to convince us to keep buying.
I love my 10D and still use it all the time. This camera produces excellent images and has a film like quality similar to the 5D classic, which I love. I stopped "chasing megapixels" a long time ago. My 80D takes some of the sharpest images I've seen, especially in monochrome, but I still find myself using the 10D, and 5D way more often. The color rendering is just fantastic.
I was really interested to see this video. I started my photography career in 1977 and joined an advertising photographers in 1979. Like you I was brought up on film and was reluctant to move to digital. However due to comments from clients I felt pressure to make the change in 2004 and after recommendation from a fellow professional, I purchased an EOS 10D a decision that I never regretted. Paired with the superb 17-40 EF lens it was capable of excellent results. It is the ONLY one of my old digital cameras that I have kept! The build quality is excellent but of course, it was expensive when new. I am now subscribed to your channel and wish you every success with it.
Thank you Andrew! Really good to connect with other photographers who have lived and worked through this transitional time of going from Film to digital… and now we have mirrorless and smartphone and drones and all sorts. Difficult to keep up! Today I’m building some custom cases to keep my drone safe while on location. How times have changed for photographers! Thanks for your support and subscription. All the very best. Roy
My canon 10 d has been great it was my grandfather before he passed in 2005 me being born in 2003 the year it came out I never got to learn from him but TH-cam has been my best friend
I’m sure your Grandfather would be very pleased that you are enjoying using his 10d and in some way you are still learning from him, he enabled the journey… Starting you down a road of discovery. I wish you every success with your photography and please get in touch if you need any guidance. Always happy to help others on their journey, especially ones who have photographer grandfathers watching over them! Best Wishes. Roy
Oh my gosh!! You are taking me WAY back...my first REAL digital camera I shot weddings and portraits with was the 10D, and I still have it, and it still works!! I started my photography career with film, so the ability to change ISO during a shoot was a real bonus. When I look back at my images, some of my most favorite images were taken with the 10D. Thanks for posting!
@@RoyRiley I had a chance to shoot the 10D this week. I'm actually a little surprised at how clean and sharp the images look, and I SWEAR Canon was doing something special with their sensors back then that they aren't doing now! I enjoy your videos, so thanks for posting!
I got back into photography in 2009. So my “iconic” digital camera to learn on was the later prosumer 40D. Paired with the 17-55 2.8 EF-S zoom I got some brilliant images with its 10mp crop sensor. I had it for 4 years and eventually replaced it with a 5Dii which, aside from sensor size and slightly better ISO. Wasn’t all that much better. We moved house recently and I’d done a personal project in Istanbul in 2009. My wife found the images and they still stand up. The dynamic range and colours are gorgeous. Cheers for the channel Roy.
I had the 40d for a while back in the day. Really was a great camera and like you say the pictures still hold up. Mostly it’s all about the photographer, the lighting and the subject.. I always say that a good picture is a good picture no matter what camera or lens it was shot with. On the other hand a bad picture shot on ten grands worth of state of the art gear is still utter garbage
I have 10D and I just bought RF6 II. I really like your videos, your calm and "none-acting" talking is very pleasant to listen and also easy to follow for a listener who is not a native English speaker.
The 10D was my first digital SLR camera. I saved my college minimum wage for a year to buy it new for $1500. Used it for 7 years before upgrading with 50D. Have great memories with the camera. Only complaints I had was the slow (1sec) start up and review time. It is also pre EF-S lenses, which I wished it was compatible with. Just fixed its card slot pins that my toddler bent so that I can use it again.
Great video. I had my first DSLR in October 2001 with the D30. It was a revelation for me shooting motorsport, rallying in particular. The 10D was another notch up. I have both cameras and they still work perfectly. Even though the 10D is way past it’s shutter count!
I wanted it to be my first DSLR back in 2006, after shooting film for a bit but I got a bargain on a used 20D. I was around 17 years old and underwhelmed by it as at that time new exciting stuff was coming out like 5D and cameras with better specs, live view and what not. I honestly believed that I’m not getting the results because my gear is not good enough. As an effect I lost interest in photography for almost 10 years. Then I took it out last year and oh boy was I dumb. I was taking great portraits and landscapes, far better than I used to take with my iPhone. I started printing them out, making home albums. I still have the very same camera that I bought 18 years ago and although I moved to 5D mk2 I’m not getting rid of it. Thank you for spreading out the message that it’s not the newest camera that matters, but taking pictures.
The 10D (with a battery pack) was my first digital SLR and I used it mainly on the water taking pics of yacht racing. I still have it and it is still taking faultless photos - even after being splashed with seawater and being dropped into the bottom of boats. Even though I eventually purchased a 5D Classic, I still used it as a backup camera until I got a 5D3. Having used the 10D for many years I must say that it taught me a lot about using DSLRs that stood me in good stead with later cameras.
Thanks for sharing this! Really pleased to hear of your experience. I shot loads of yacht racing too. Took the 10d offshore many times and it never missed a beat! All the very best to you. RR
I had a Canon 10d some 15 years ago and liked it a lot, great camera. My dad now has it in his wee collection. Last year I decided to learn to use my DSLR properly, I had a dinky wee Canon 100d. I bought a lovely Canon 30d and took over 5000 photos in a few months. I then got a chance of a 40d with only 9000 shutter count. I've loved both cameras and improved my skill level. I hardly use the 100d as it's too awkward to remember all the menu adjustment settings. I bought a lovely Nikon D700 just before Christmas. I am just about to sell my 30d and 40d but watching your video makes me realise, no I'll just keep them they are great.
I enjoy all of your videos very much but I love this one. I have a few 10D bodies and still use them occasionally as well as my 1D classic, I also started out with film and although slow and a bit challenging I love the images from the early bodies they seem to have a quality you can't get with new equipment, for lack of a better term I feel they have soul. Love the channel and beautiful work my friend keep it up!
Thank you for your lovely words and support. It really does mean so much to hear this kind of thing. I could not agree more when you use the word “soul” there is something more technical about later cameras that while amazing in their own way, has stripped that soul away. Interesting stuff! All the very best for 2022. RR
Still have mine, quite often take it along to a client shoot, and switch cameras just to experiment with the 10d (clients never know the difference, they really don't!), primarily shooting on 5dmk4's now - what I still love about the 10d is because it's slow...it makes you slow down and consider what your doing, the files are superb and have that film quality. It must be that sensor, as many other cameras I seem to remember from that era. One that springs to mind is the legendary Fuji S3Pro, and the original 5D. You also mentioned it's so nice to work with smaller files I totally agree, save your HD space!! :) Great review and subscribed, great content mate 👍
After my dad had all his camera gear stolen ages ago, he had gotten a 10d used with a massive bag holding the battery grip, extra battery’s and some lenses. He was using it for friends and family’s weddings and some pictures of me and my siblings when we were younger, as of right now I’ve been playing with it and I really enjoy it. It’s a little hard to use but that’s most likely me not fully understanding certain settings the camera has. Funny thing too, I’ve seen it with the battery grip since he bought it, so when I had taken it off it looked like a completely different camera, didn’t seem to fit in my hands very well either
Nice story! Sad to hear your dad had his gear nicked but he must have been excited to get hold of the 10d! Yes the grip makes a huge difference to the feel and look of the camera. Good luck with it. Still a very capable camera!
Thank you so very much for this video! I have a 10D that I had relegated to the back of the closet years ago. I am just an amateur and used to love capturing shots with the 10D, but I drifted away from photography. Now I have the spark back and am trying to learn more. I love that you helped me feel I can use the 10D I have and not need to run out and spend a BUNCH of money on a new body. You've inspired me to go out and try. Now if you could just fix the AF on my Canon 50 mm 1.4 I'd really be in business :)
Good to hear your inspired to pick your camera up again. Can’t help with the 50 1.4 I’m afraid! My experience of that lens is that they all fall apart eventually! 50mm F1.8 STM might be a good value replacement.
Great video Roy. I was using my 10D right up to 2014, having bought new, it in 2003. Unfortunately my camera succumbed to spray from an errant wave, in Portugal (yes, no water seals on the old girl!) and a couple of days later it just stopped working, and that was it. The end!! I have an 18x12" picture, hanging on my wall, taken in 2003. Absolutely no one who looks at it has any idea with what camera, and when, the pic was taken? Even more of a shock is when they learn that the sensor is a mere 6.4MP! In fact the picture was actually printed from a 4.2 pixel jpeg, having shot in RAW originally.
I bought a 10D for my wife back in the day and she still uses it today. I use two Canon 20Ds with primes and grips still today. They bought make great pictures.
I started off with the 20D. I had some problems with that one, and had it replaced with a 40D through the warranty company. I loved both of them, and got some great results with both! After 13 years my 40D finally took its last picture a couple weeks ago. Everything works on it, but as soon as you press the shutter button, it turns off. I didn’t feel like paying $300 to get it fixed, so I picked up a low shutter count used 5D Mark II for the same amount. I can’t wait for that to get here! I’ve always wanted to try a full frame DSLR! I really enjoy, and appreciate your videos! Keep them coming!!
Wow that’s a good story. Sorry to hear of the loss of your 40d but I guess 13 years is a great innings for any camera. I rented a 40D for a couple of weeks while I had another camera repaired and was blown away by the quality at the time. Pound for pound I think that series of canon camera has always been very strong. Make me wonder about the 90D! You will enjoy the full frame experience.. only issue is that the lenses can be a bit pricey. Thanks for your thoughts on this. All the best. Roy
The 10D was my first ever DSLR and I got some wonderful memories taken with it. Mine used to blow the highlights very easily but other than that, was a great camera :)
I bought the 10D today at a thrift store for $10. I bought the charger for it, and memory card online. Interesting video, I never really shot anything. The wife and I use polaroid film for important photos, and of course take pictures on the phone too. Those get lost and lose their meaning easily, we’ve got a nice printer so I hope that’ll change. We’ve always been into retro stuff, and she has a newer canon. But I bought the 10D on a whim to look and take pictures of birds. From everyones stories here, looks like I’m not disappointed.
Great to see this video of the lovely 10D which was my first jump from film to digital SLR I cut my teeth using digital in 2003 shooting in Japan. Heavy use for 2 weeks rain or shine day and night, fleeting Geishas etc.. When I finished I knew then there was no turning back. I also shot Jpeg but back then RAW was onerous to use with how slow workstations were to process them along with the software not yet there. Key of course is just getting the technicals right and the files will be fine, you has no choice in the matter back then 😂 I still have my battle scarred 10D as a memento and it still works amazingly with a new battery I bought on Amazon. 10D would make a great bootcamp training camera for the new photographer, stick a 50 on it and the assignment is give me a good portfolio, have at it.
My first Canon Digital camera was the D30, which was only three megapixels, same form factor and body as the one you've got there but half the resolution. It wasn't long before I upgraded to the original EOS-1D and I loved that camera to bits and still have it today, it still feels incredibly solid like it's made out of unobtaininium. Even then, people were amazed that I could print 4-megapixel images and produce amazing prints from them. I don't think people realise that billboards were printed from 2 megapixel (Kodak Pro DCS 520) and 6 megapixel (Kodak Pro DCS 560) Kodak/Canon hybrid cameras of the day. Obviously daisy pattern dithering and viewing distance aside, those billboard images looked just as good as anything else shot on film. I still dig out all my old cameras and take them for a spin sometimes, its good fun.
Nice! Interesting history. Used to shoot with one of those old Canon / Kodak cameras.. my first dig! Not owned by me though.. first assignment with it was to shoot the River of fire on the Thames on Millennium New Years Eve.
My first proper digital camera after leaving film behind, suddenly felt I developed some nostalgic emotions when I watch this video because it was a genuinely good quality workhorse back then. Obviously any phone is better than this today, but I still have an emotional soft spot for this old banger 😉
A little funny to look back at those earlier digital cameras we all thought were tech' marvels at the time, and the huge progress to today's cameras. We didn't really know any better, working with little, lo res back screens, usable ISO topping out at 1600, or less, 3 fps, and 32mb cards. I recall that to cover a football game with my D1 (worth more than the company Fiesta I had...!) I needed to change battery at half time, and beware shooting over 1000iso. But as your photos clearly show, with a good photographer behind it, and a sharp lens in front, they did the job just fine...
Looking back it really was an interesting time. Information was not so readily available with the web still in infancy. Information was exchanged between colleagues and learnt on the job! Do I remember a book by Rob Galbraith??
@@RoyRiley I remember regularly reading Rob Galbraith's website (via my AOL dial up internet...), as if I was studying for an exam, knowing digital cameras were going to the next big thing!
The 10D was my first DSLR. I bought it used from a popular photography forum member. Paired with EF 28-105mm f/3.5 - 5.6 I shot some amazing photos. When I married my wife began using it. She quickly surpassed my photography skills. While nearly every other photographer made fun the camera she consistently shot better and more creative images than they did. It's a great little camera. I made a quantum leap when I upgraded to a 5D Mk2. We upgraded her to an RP which she adores because it fits her small hands. Despite its limitations in 2022 if you cannot produce great photos with the 10D buying a $6000 mirrorless is a waste of money. If I were to gift a camera to a family member I would not hesitate to do so with a 10D w/EF 50mm f/1.8 USM lens. I'd wait to see if that relative is willing to learn basic photography such as lighting, shadows, composition, aperture, shutter speed, etc. before I spent real money on current equipment.
I started off with a Canon 20d and then moved onto a 40d. I still have a 40d now, still a great camera. Part of me wishes I had my 20d still for a bit of nostalgia. I’ve had numerous Canon’s since.
Hi Colin, thanks for your comment. 40d is an awesome camera. A few others have commented positively about that camera and I found it very good when I shot with it a few years back. I think the 20d will be the classic from the range though. Might pick one up if opportunity presents! More old cameras for the shelf! All the best for 2022 and thanks for your support of the channel. RR
The 10D was my very first DSLR. i have used it since I bought it new when it first came out and shot with it until a few years ago when I bought a 1D Mark III. I still have it but mainly my 9 year old uses it now. I still think it’s a great versatile camera capable of wonderful images.
Well I’m sure the remaining herd of dwindling wild 10d cameras will feel awful about missing out on being in the hands of the all time wonderful Tim Piotr! We all wish you luck on your quest.. RR
@@RoyRiley All time wonderful- how do you know me? But seriously I have watched a lot of YT vids on retro and you are the first to mention the viewfinder. Crazy when it is such an important part of user experience.
@@timpiotr4857 I don’t know you but just being kind. I am sure you are very wonderful. Take care out there in the world Mr P. Thank you for your comments. R
Tip - Sigma lenses designed for Canon cropped sensor EOS cameras use the EF not EF-S mount. I use a Sigma 18-55mm zoom on my Canon D30. The D30 came out in 2000 and was Canon's first production line DSLR. All Canon DSLR's before that were hand built on EOS 1 film chassis. It is only 3.1 mp, but being released before the first EOS 1D was used by many professionals. Remember the original Nikon D1 pro camera was only 2.74 mp. The D30 was followed by the D60 at 6.3 mp and then the 10D. I think Canon switched from putting the D before the model designation to after it to avoid confusion with Nikon DSLRs which have always put the D first. The D30 gives excellent results up to ISO 400, and using interpolation software can make good A4 prints. The camera is built like a tank and continues to be very reliable. The only slight fault I can find with its image quality up to ISO 400 is a slight reddish tinge to photos taken in bright sunlight. This is due to an over sensitivity to infrared, like the original Leica M8, and the fix is the same: add an IR cut filter to the lens.
Thank You Geoffrey. This is great information! Around 2000 I was using the Canon /Kodak brick and sometimes the D1. Somehow I missed spending money on the D30. Jumped in at the D60 which I thought was really amazing at the time. Thanks for the heads up on the sigma lenses. I used to have the 12-24 which was very good on these bodies. Thanks again for you time and info. All the best. RR
I picked one up today in almost mint condition for £30 and I was surprised by the weight. I was able to get some photos inside a coffee house. This will be mainly fun use though. The good thing about these older cameras, there's less to go wrong it gets you to think about what you're taking and if you are after image stabilization then mount it on tripod or a brick wall.
Nice! Yup the old “shirt sleeve brick wall clamp” trick.. works about 50% of the time roughly half the time.. always take a few frames though… got me out of a hole many times over the years!
I've kept all my digital cameras. The 10D was way out of my budget when it was released, even the 300D consumer model was very expensive at the time. So I managed to get the powershot G2 as a digital start. When I finally had enough to make the purchase the 10D, it had already been withdrawn from the market. So what did I buy? The 20D? No I went for Nikon's D70 18-70 kit. Now that was, and still is a great camera. Many years later I picked a nice 10D out of pure curiosity for about 10% of the original price and I have kept it and do take it out now and then. I realise I was lucky that it had been gone from the shops in 2004 because, although it took very nice images, it felt painfully slow in use compared to the D70, which had/has an off to review time of about 0-0.5 seconds. And it has a flash sync speed of 1/500s. But Canon 10D still produced/s nicer high ISO images. CF cards were extremely expensive too, back then, and it took quite a few years for prices to start dropping. Thx for sharing your nice shots with your 10D.
@@RoyRiley Indeed. I wish I had been more patient when going digital. You can pick up soome amazing deals these days, like Canon 1Ds mk III, for peanuts.
The dawn of digital photography. I buy a Digital Rebel 300D (with the same sensor as the 10D). I have plans to buy the 10D, but the 20D came...so I buy the 20D. A 128mb CF card cost me $125!!!!! Thanks for the memories!!!
This was my first entry into Digital as well, close to 20 years ago, shifting from film, I can't say I can dispute your claime about the EF-S mount but I absolutely did shoot with a Sigma 18-200 lens on that camera and as far as I know that is an EF-S lens. Most of my lenses were lense that migrated from my Canon EF film Cameras 24-70 2.8L was probably the lens that lived on it for almost everything.
My memories of this long distant past are hazy to say the least so I could easily be mistaken about the efs mount! I believe it was introduced at the same time as the 20d but all of the older EF lenses worked on the 10d so who knows!
@@RoyRiley I jave a hazy recollection as well, I am tempted to dig through my old files to find the EXFI data, I am also thinking it might be possible I was shooting that 18-200 Sigma on 7D that I upgraded to years later. I shot with that 10D for a while, it jad it's limitations for sure, but I learned to get the most put of it. I had a young photographer compliment a shot I got at a races years ago and he proclaimed he couldn't wait to get a better Camera, he was shooting with a Rebel T7i, I laughed and told him his current Camera offered more than anything that was available when my 10D was released. I love the advances made in technology and what it makes possible, but I think the overwhelming influence and distraction of daily reviews and promotion of new tech jas taken away the kind of make it work and get what you can from your tools ethic that most of us had that grew up before TH-cam, and IG. That said I'm still waiting for the High Resolution EOS RL Promised by Canon in responce to Sony's release of the a7RIV, back in October of 2019. This is 4 years later now, and there has already been an a7r5, the A1, and finally they are talking about an EOS R1, I'm just skeptical whether it's more than an intended distraction to interrupt conversations about the actual coming A1 II, A9 II, and the very real bar set by actual released cameras like the a7r5, A1, and Z9 that all came out while we have still been waiting. I'm kind of laughing at myself a little because I say all of this after having a lengthy conversation today with someone about the utility of shooting film on 50 year old cameras with 50, 60, and 70 year old glass. It's all about the light ypu capture.
This is the first DSLR I shot and at the time I had some memory cards already so mostly looks raws. This sensor/processor/capture one from the time yields some o the nicer colours I've seen from digital and your examples, even if jpgs confirm that. This camera has something different that was lost on newer models
Hi Roy , interesting piece I think in our pursuit of “better” its easy to forget that some of these early DSLRs were actually pretty decent especially with good glass. I started ( 37 years of film before that) with the next model, the 20D in 2005 , still have it in perfect working order . Looking back on the images I took with it I think they’ve stood up pretty darn well, even up to A3 and the camera sits proudly on the bookshelf in my collection along with my folks old cameras. It had many (but not all) of the issues you outlined with the 10D although not the lens limitations but is definitely on a different planet compared to the R5 I’m shooting with today :) I think for editing I was using Paint Shop Pro - not sure what happened to that. Cheers from NZ
We have come a very long way since those days - yet in some ways not that far at all. Still a box with a hole in it with a lens sticking out the front! How is life in NZ?? Hope all keeping well. RR
@@RoyRiley Hi Roy , well mid summer of course and in the last week Omicron broke out of our border quarantine and is loose in the community and slowing replacing Delta with arrived in August which we’d all but extinguished. We’ve watched what happened across the ditch (Australia) and there is a fair bit of nervousness here with a noticeable increase in mask wearing and QR code scanning at businesses . As a much older person its been limiting photographically my wanting to minimise exposure possibilities. However we’ve done well in NZ so far so I have hopes it won’t turn to custard over winter. I was thinking about what you said and a pretty good analogy to camera’s is the internal combustion engine - largely unchanged in it general operating principals for well over 100 years and still delivering the same result - rotating power - however the real difference is a huge increase in squeezing more power out of the fuel . :) cheers from a very sunny Auckland .
Until just the other day, the EOS 10D was the only DSLR I owned, and not even with the original lens - instead it had the 55 - 200mm lens, but it's served me well. I haven't gone much more modern, now with an EOS 1000D. For the price of the upgrade, though, I now have two lenses that I can use (the 18 - 55mm and the 55-200mm). The 10D is now packed away, lensless (with a cover in place), probably to be kept for posterity, or until it's an expensive collector's item.
This was my first digital camera . Loved it . In the studio with lights it was amazing for portraits . Buffering was an issue . But still a good camera . Roy loving your channel . I have a question can you do a video around non native lenses for canon please
Thank you! I am no expert with non native lenses I’m afraid. I have recently adapted an old 58mm Helios and started shooting with it and the results are good but focussing is a bit hit and miss, especially if you are under any kind of pressure. I think that’s the reason I have always stuck with canon lenses because they are super reliable and just get the job done which is my number one priority for professional work. For fun I would love to play around with some more non native lenses though! Any lens suggestions I should look into?
Hi Roy, absolutely love the topics you cover in the videos. I have to wholeheartedly agree on the magic of Canon colors... most of the time just adding contrast and fixing the exposure in post if needed brings and image to life. I'm curios on what lenses did you use back in the days on this APSC camera hence the 1.6x crop factor, since APSC lenses as you mentioned where not a thing yet.
Thanks Luke! Appreciate your comment! I came directly from the EOS 1 film cameras so had the full bag of original EOS L Glass, 17-35, 20-35, 28-70, 70-200, 300, for a wide I used the 15mm fisheye and then a couple of lenses from Sigma.. long since destroyed.. I think they were the 12-24 and 10-20.
Thanks for sharing, I used this on a wedding in 2005 with the Canon 550EX speedlite the Pics came out great. This was my transition from film medium format (Kowa Super 66) Currently I went to Canon 60D and now EOS R. I love the technology. Film was very expensive including developing. 120 rolls had 12 shots. Great video, go out and challenge yourself using the 10D. I purchased another 10D it's in new condition.
Thx for the video! By this time i had the poor man 10d ak 300d as i was by this time student. Then i got a 20D a bit later that was pretty nice with the ef-s mount !
@@RoyRiley i had shortly a D30 in between but was not fan about colors rendering but this was just the time to décide myself on 20D. With 10-22 efs it was a great combo.
Enjoyed the video. I think that older cameras are a great option for photographers on a budget. I shoot with a Canon 5D mark II and a collection of mid-range lenses (that I collected while shooting with a 70D for some time before getting the 5D2.) It's a wonderful camera and I have no regrets getting one even though it's an older camera.
Great video! Like others here this was my first real digital body and a game changer at the time. Later went onto the 40D, 5D etc, a well trodden path i'm sure. Sadly 20 years on 'real' progress seems to have slowed since - the Canon RP is probably comparable to this today in 2022, and while it's a fine (and great travel) camera it's not so game changing. Some of the lenses (eg RF 14-35) now cost a huge amount and meanwhile the likes of Apple etc are doing amazing things in software, (low light image stacking etc) while Canon, Nikon etc stick their head in the ground.
Interesting times indeed! I guess it’s important to think about where we have come from.. scratching tigers in the side of caves.. to where we are today.. flying HD camera drones that fly themselves and sending pictures to millions of people around the world in less than a second. Everything else is just noise really.
Roy, thank you for great review. My general camera is analogue Nikon F3 HP, digital fullframe Nikon goes for commercial purpouses only.The camera I entered digital photography was Nikon D40 with marvelous colours it's CCD sensor produced. I changed many gears since than, but all the time in my "park" was a classic digital SLR for fun: Canon EOS 1D MK-II, Nikon D1, Fujifilm S-Pro3, Nikon D2x, Nikon D100. Nowdays my fun camera is Canon EOS 1Ds Mk-II and I tune it that way, that it gives me a Portra 400 look pictures right from camera. And I paid just 180 eur for it! I would like to buy a 10D in order to compare result on low iso from those two legends side by side.
My first Canon dSLR was the D60 which was a lot like the Elan IIe I was shooting film with at the time. No longer have the D60 because I traded it for a 40D later traded for a 70D which I still use. These old camera bodies are like old cars, you can use them forever as long as you take care of them!
@@RoyRiley 10D was the first proper dslr for the masses and it preceeded D70 by something like 12-18 months; D70 did not have many shortcomings of 10D such as slow ON and poor viewfinder in other ways they were quite similar from what I read while I never had a chance to use 10D
I bought one in 2006 used for $750 USD and what a deal, what a great camera, it really was a game changer. When I got this camera, I instantly sold my film Elan7 camera.
I bought one second hand in 2010, based on me having an EOS10QD film camera and lenses. During the lockdown I had the sensor cleaned (which probably cost as much as the camera is worth), and have had great fun with it since. It's quite slow and ponderous to use, but my main gripe is the CF card. I can't connect the camera directly to a PC as the software won't run on anything later than Windows XP, so I need to take the card out and put it in a card reader. I feel nervous inserting and removing the card as I feel I'm going to bend some of those pesky pins
Great story - thanks for sharing. I love how different people come to these older cameras and still find use in them. Pulling out the CF card and using a card reader has been my standard work flow for about twenty years! If your careful it should be OK. I have had a few broken pins over the years but it’s fortunately a rare thing.. touch wood.
Try this: go to the yellow section of the menu and select ‘communications’ (just above format) then select ‘PTP’ option. Your camera should behave using the USB cable to your computer/laptop thereafter. Transfer rate will predominantly be influenced by the write speed of your CF card. Mine works on windows 10 & 8 :) Good luck.
I couldn’t agree more with your review.i still have 1 of my 10D cameras. I think in the early days we got such good results as we still thought like a film photographer......low iso...low grain
I agree. I think my happiest years as a photographer were those early days of digital because I didn’t have to worry about processing film all the time but was not yet machine gunning away and having to spend hours culling. Maybe need to revisit this process. Thanks for your comment. RR
My first digital Canon was the 20D with a battery grip. I waited until some labs, and myself, understood how to print images from digital files. The camera technology far outpaced the paper and printing technology when digital cameras were first introduced. Canon caught a lot of flak for using a CMOS sensor opposed to the CCD sensor Nikon (and other brands) used when they finally came out with a digital camera. But in terms of a dust collector the CCD sensor literally left the camera and captured dust and brought it back. CCD sensors were awful when compared to a CMOS sensor. I worked part time at a retail camera store at the time I bought my 20D and we had all kinds of customers bringing back Nikons, to be fixed, because their images were fuzzy, Nikon had a problem with achieving good focus on their digital cameras. Interestingly enough Nikon's response to us was "tell them to fix it in photoshop." It forever soured me on Nikon, and I've only used them when an employer had me use one. I've never personally purchased one and probably never will. Their arrogance, along with Canon's R&D, lenses, fast focus, color and enhanced R&D, cost Nikon the pro market, which I don't think they've ever gained back. I made a ton of images with the 20D and used it for years. Like you, many of my images were enlarged to 20x24" and beyond with good results. The 20D was a great camera--I never owned a 10D but your images with it look excellent.
Such a great informative comment. Thank you. I did not have much experience with early Nikon Digital so it’s interesting to hear this bit of history. Thanks for your time. All the best. Roy
Some interesting comments there , at the time in 2005 when I was looking to get my first DSLR I compared the 20D with its equivalent Nikon (can’t remember the model) having come from the Nikon film background but on balance the Canon won and proved to be a really reliable little beast that took some of my best images . In all the time I had it I only had occasional issues with dust that required a small amount of attention so good choice I guess :) . Interestingly some of them found their way to my youtube channel recently in a retro piece I did in lockdown. The 20D is still working today although it took a well earned retirement a decade back. :) Still with Canon and recently moved to the R5 which of course still has that familiar Canon feel to my previous models from the 5D series and the XXD series. Cheers from NZ
i recently bought a 20D, using M42's and the amazing sigma 17-70! It inspired me to take digital more seriously, so i just found a 5D mkii. Its all helped me cope since my marriage broke down, and husky (Fuji) died!
So sad to hear of your troubles man. Life can be a bitch sometimes. RIP Fuji. Wishing your husky the very best of everything for the next part of the journey. With regard to the marriage… who knows how these things unfold. From the darkest times there will always be something brighter.. give it time and an open mind. M42 lenses are great… I’m playing with a few right now and I love love love the character. All these old Canon cameras are very cool. Great bargains and a wonderful way to spend time in photography.. thanks for sharing your experiences and good luck for the future. Stay strong and keep shooting.. never played with the sigma 17-70.. might have to have a look. Thanks for the heads up. RR
interesting feature!! Amazing photos. It is more about the photographer than the camera. A good photographer can shoot fantastic images with a cheaper camera, while the most expensive camera is of not much use for less interested hobbyists. Thanks!
My first DSLR. Shot in RAW, with RAWshooter as RAW converter. Still have it and videos like this make me try it out once more. It’s slow but I’ll adapt.
I totally get the point of this video. Myself, despite the fact that far more capable and sophisticated cameras are available to me, in my spare time when I’m out for a walk, I often shoot with my Nikon D200! There’s just something about the look of the pictures, as you said, a kind of “Kodak film” quality, that keeps me coming back. (Perhaps the older CCD sensor?) As long as one understands the strengths and limitations of these older beauties, great results can still be achieved!
Nice. Thanks Robert. I do find technology interesting when we look back over time. There does tend to be a “new is obviously better” theme to so much camera talk when actually lots of this older gear is still perfectly fine for many uses. Having said all that I’m currently eyeing up the Canon R5 so I guess I’m just as guilty of newcameraitus as anyone else! It’s the better AF that’s drawing me in!
I was convinced that digital imaging would never last 🤔🤔 and so I resisted the temptation to trade in one of my pair of beloved EOS 3 bodies until the 20D came out at an affordable price. Wow, what a revelation. Great little camera. I recall a friend of mine who had the 1dS body, looking at some prints I printed on a little A4 Epson home printer and he was blown away by the quality of the prints. As you say in the video you can make very decent enlargements from those files (I believe the 20D was 8mp) and that memory has always stuck wth me when watching this insane push to get more and more pixels onto a sensor.
Haha! I still have an EOS 3 on my shelf! Amazing camera! I think the 20D was the real classic of the time especially with the Efs lens mount. Thank you for your great comments. Really pleased you are enjoying my videos. RR
It's funny to see the same minor lack of contrast is noticeable with my 20D. While my 550D gives more (too) punchy images. My 5D mkII sits in between. As it comes to colorrendering, the 20D wins. My real only minor gripe with the 20D is the lack of lens information in its exif. But as the first EF-S capable Canon xxD dslr and pairing it with the last generation of STM kitlenses will give results on par with my 5D mkII with 85mm 1.8 USM prime with only minor lack of sharpness. Though I have to get a new nifty fifty (gave my old mkII away to a beginner), I bet with the STM version, in a blind test it will be hard to see the difference between pictures taken by my 5D with 85mm and my 20D with 50 1.8 STM.
Thanks Patrick! You always leave the best comments! Really insightful and right up my street. I might pick up a 20D to play with if opportunity presents. Wishing you every success for 2022. Roy
Great video, my first DSLR was the 300D, which had the same sensor as the 10D, I later upgraded to the 30D. I may be looking through rose-tinted glasses, but I think the files from those early cameras had a certain quality that's difficult to pin point
My girlfriend gave me the 10d. I use it sometimes with my sigma 150-600 sport for bird photography. I can't crop so much but at 600 mm i don't need. The image quality is great even nowadays. The AF isn't very accurate and fast, some times in low light with a bird in the branches it can't catches the subject.
@@RoyRiley I use a Tamron 70-210 and it still gets super sharp pictures with stunning colors almost closer related to the softer colors in the fujifilm x series cameras. It was one of ny dads old cameras and I love shooting with it, along with his old D30 with a a sigma 170-500. Sometimes you just can't bea the older equipment for particular effects and softness in the pictures
I started of with a 300D, got the Russian Hack and ended up with a 310D. A camera that had almost what the 10D offered. Was very happy with my first digital SLR. And at that time it was a pricebreaker!
I did not know about the 310D. Just google it! Interesting history! I got involved with a few of the |"alternative firmware upgrades' with other cameras though.. Great forward thinking community .. Did your 310D ever brick? Thanks for your comment. All the best. Roy
My first DSLR was the Rebel XT. Very similar to this camera in many respects; beats it by 2 mp, lol. I still own it, and still use it as a knock around kind of camera that resides permanently in my vehicle. it's a camera, they all function the same. If you understand how to use one, you know how to use any of them. As long as I do my job right, it takes great pictures.
I have 2 of these believe it or not one is brand new still in the box I bought it a few years back for £50.00 I have a soft spot for 6mp dslr cameras I always seem to get photos I am most happy with straight out of the camera, and to be honest 6mp on a APSC sensor just seems to kick, and the images still look great on a 50 odd inch TV and 4K is only just over 8mp just to give perspective. No need to shoot with a camera capable of billboard size resolution if you just take photos for your own pleasure.
Nice! Great that you are still using this classic. Totally agree with what you say. I keep wondering about the 20d because they seem like such a bargain.
@@RoyRiley I do have a 20D and apart from the still small display screen it's a big improvement on the 10D as it takes the EFS lenses and has the 9 point auto focus, it's also less of a handful even though it's high quality mag body, oh and it has a toggle as well. I would still favor the 6.3mp over the 8mp though.
@@RoyRiley I remember I used to dream about a Canon 40D then but it was so bloody expensive! And then I got hooked on medium format film photography, waited a bit and then did assignments with a Nikon D7000 for a bunch of years. Come to think of it, I might look for a beaten up 40D on eBay and maybe I can find one for 50 quid just to get my "dream camera" after all those years :D
i still use my 300D. With the firmware hack i think its more or less like th e10d. love using the camera still today and i take it out from time to time instead of my 80d. i like the images that come out of it.
Ive got a 30D that I think is pretty good. I wasn't considering anything earlier, but for £20 what's not to like. As you have shown, in decent light you can get great images. So Ive just made an offer of £30 on eBay for one. Its a nice looking camera, so sitting as part of a collection of other Canons it won't look out of place an will hold its own.. Keep it real mate..!!!
Just bought it today. And it workes just fine with EF-S Sigma 17-50. Although I've heard it does not work with Canon's EF-S 18-55 due to the back lens offset.
- Thank You! I'm currently taking in information of two of my old Canon cameras, 10D and 5D classic. Getting more and more sure they suit me very well, I like to draw and paint aswell. It has always been hard for me to afford a camera. For a while I used a bad resolution web camera to take photos! I had to because otherwise no photos. I'm 66 years old and having illnesses that stops me. Now I have lots of cameras but no health, before I was strong and healthy working long hours. But had no money, no camera! - What to do... 😂😂😂
Just use what you have and enjoy taking pictures! Photography is much more about the vision of the photographer than the camera they choose.. Wishing you improving health for the coming year. I have a feeling 2024 will be a good year for you. RR
@@DeePPurPleLemoN worth considering is that just a few short years ago people like me dropped thousands of dollars on this gear the happily went round the globe shooting high end campaigns for clients who utterly loved the pictures. From front pages of national newspapers to billboard advertising. Your 10d is a powerhouse! Use it wisely!
Oh my...the 10D...I did a video on this one years ago and what it can still do and who this Canon 10D is for. I can´t use mine anymore...because it finally broke. But for learning photography...I say the Canon 10D is still one of the best and rewarding cameras out there, because you had to...had to get it right in terms of composition and lighting. Once you could do it on the 10D however...any other camera after was a breeze to work with.
I have the 10D as a fun camera. I shout RAW with it. As long as there is good light with less contrast ist perfectly fine; Dynamic range is kinda 0 ;) The image enhancement feature in Lightroom makes pretty big files out of the 6 megapixels again as long as I shot in good light.
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks. I never actually had a 10D though I did have a D60 and then later moved to a 20D. Any chance you can do a video on the D60? Both of these are long gone from my ownership. I do remember finding the 20D as quite a jump from the D60. You now have me wondering about picking up a 20D on flea bay… thanks again
@@NSRJohn cheers! D60 and 10d were quite similar I think. I used mine side by side for years and could not tell much difference between them. Others I am sure will find something to mention. 20d was a good jump up as was the case back then. Good luck if you go after a used one!
wow... didnt know it about that efs limitation. the 300d has it and it was released the same time. that would be a deal breaker for me. the slowlness doesnt bother me.. its kinda like using a film camera in that sense.
How strange this should pop up. I have just woken from a dream where I had been shooting stills on a movie set with a 10D, that bizarrely took film and Pentax lenses. The moral is no cheese at bedtime, and maybe over 40 years all cameras blur into one. I went from shooting news on EOS1n to the Canon d30, a truly awful camera with poor autofocus. The 10D felt much more like an EOS1n. My 10D had two shutters, survived a soaking that required drying on a radiator, and basically anything sport photography in Northern England could throw at it. I had a nightclub column back then, and and it's hard to tell the difference between stuff taken on the later 20D or 40D. With flash to aid the AF focussing was fine. I'm still happy to see 10D images in my portfolio against my modern stuff off 5D3 and 7D2 bodies The successor 20D was only a marginal improvement. It had a fault with the vertical grip that caused it to lose power, and to be honest left me not trusting it. You would be better off jumping to the 40D, primarily for the bigger screen more focus points and more FPS. Unless you are pixel peeping a 10D will still be fine for a lot of modern work. I'm confident that if you sent files off it to a national paper picture desk nobody would spot the difference on most jobs. OK, stuff you can't do with it. There's no ridiculous high ISO capability. I was shooting a night RTC recently and worked at 20,000 ISO, as flash bounces back off the police jackets, you can't do that on a 10D. It won't do high speed bursts (it was OK for rugby though). The dynamic range meant highlights could blow out, even on landscapes, but it was better than s d30. If I was a teenager looking to learn to use a 'proper' camera it would be a great start. Just pair it with say the Sigma 18 to 50 f2.8 as a starter kit. EFS lenses, well for a wide, you are better off using the Sigma 10 to 20 as a wide, it's better than the Canon 10 to 22, as I have owned both. Sigma stuff just fits fine. I tend to divide cameras into loved or hated categories, irrespective of how much money I have made with them. The d30 was dire, but earned a lot, the 40D and 10D were lovely professional tools at the time. Maybe if you are looking at something older as a starter in APSC, consider the 7D, it does all the modern stuff like video and higher ISO, but now at a bargain price.
What an amazing comment Phil! Thanks for that and for sharing your experience. Crazy dream man! I often have the dreaded “arrived at a shoot without the camera gear” horror dream - luckily not ever quite played out in real life.. give it time! Agreed about that sigma 10-20. It’s a great lens. I am interested in the 18-50 you mention too. Might be worth a look for a review. Thanks again for all your intelligent comments and for supporting the channel. Best wishes to you and your family for 2022. Roy
The Sigma 18 to 50 f2.8 EX is s legacy lens now. You can pick them up quite cheaply now. It has s surprisingly close focus distance, I used one for a regional paper:s weekly food column for many years. It's now been replaced by a 17 to 50 f2.8 with IS. Of course it's not got the EFS mount, so fine on s d30, d60, 10D etc. In moments of stupidity, when using full frame bodies it's been to end up on them with ridiculous vignetting. Of course, in an emergency stuff like the Sigma 10 to 20 can be used on s full frame body, then cropped, unlike Canon's alternatives.
Just bought mine for £10. Impeccable condition. A hardly used unit in sellers camera storage. Added the sigma 18-35 f1.8. It works like a dream.
This was my first digital DSLR. Fantastic camera for weddings and produces some beautiful almost whimsical images. it also feels like an expensive top of the range camera probably because of the metal body. Even today it is perfectly usable and, in the right conditions. a very capable camera. Thanks for this, Rob.
Thanks Walter! Really pleased to hear your opinions mirror my own. Many thanks for commenting. All the best. Roy
I bought my 10D when it came out nearly twenty years ago, and it is only the second camera I've ever owned (the first being my beloved AE10, which I purchased new in 1977, and which accompanied me through art school, all over Europe, and outlasted three ex-husbands and countless other life events; at the risk of sounding hyperbolic, parting with it was truly like saying goodbye to a friend). I've thought of upgrading, but the 10D still does everything that I need it to do, and at my age, I'm probably too old to try to learn the technological wizardry of a new camera.
What a great comment! If it ain't broke don't try to fix it! I had the original A1 and loved it in the same way as you describe.. mine eventually had to go as part of a trade in deal for my new EOS 1 cameras back in the 90's. Still miss the cough of the shutter! I am so pleased that you are still rocking it with the 10D. Stay Golden. R
That's what I call true love and loyalty - that you had from your AE10 I mean
It was the 10D that finally convinced me to cross over from film to the dark side in 2004. I still have two of them and did use one recently but I have upgraded since...not by much chronologically though.
I now shoot exclusively on 1D and 1Ds bodies, all Mk2. Back in the day they were $8k+ and $4k+ bodies, I get them for $600 and $400 now with low shutter counts. Still great cameras. I hardly ever use the LCD, spent 40 years without them before digital so that's no loss. Yes the res is lower than modern cameras, especially the 1D (8Mpx) but with software like Topaz Gigapixel you can enlarge 2x or even 4x with no loss of quality to speak of.
And with stitching software I can easily produce 60 or even 100Mpx files of static subjects.
Yes I could maybe buy a new 100Mpx camera for $8k and new lenses for the same again, then have $16k tied up, no backup body, and a 1000 features I don't need. To be fair maybe 20 features that are nice, but not THAT nice.
I think that cameras have reached the place that word processors and spreadsheets reached years ago, IE, they already do 5x what we need but the manufacturers have to invent new baubles to convince us to keep buying.
Great points.. thanks for your valuable thoughts and experience. Very interesting to hear. All the best. Roy
I love my 10D and still use it all the time. This camera produces excellent images and has a film like quality similar to the 5D classic, which I love. I stopped "chasing megapixels" a long time ago. My 80D takes some of the sharpest images I've seen, especially in monochrome, but I still find myself using the 10D, and 5D way more often. The color rendering is just fantastic.
Hey dude, how do you transfer the files to your pc? I got one usted but had no CDs and I cant find the software for it
I was really interested to see this video. I started my photography career in 1977 and joined an advertising photographers in 1979. Like you I was brought up on film and was reluctant to move to digital. However due to comments from clients I felt pressure to make the change in 2004 and after recommendation from a fellow professional, I purchased an EOS 10D a decision that I never regretted. Paired with the superb 17-40 EF lens it was capable of excellent results. It is the ONLY one of my old digital cameras that I have kept! The build quality is excellent but of course, it was expensive when new. I am now subscribed to your channel and wish you every success with it.
Thank you Andrew! Really good to connect with other photographers who have lived and worked through this transitional time of going from Film to digital… and now we have mirrorless and smartphone and drones and all sorts. Difficult to keep up! Today I’m building some custom cases to keep my drone safe while on location. How times have changed for photographers! Thanks for your support and subscription. All the very best. Roy
My canon 10 d has been great it was my grandfather before he passed in 2005 me being born in 2003 the year it came out I never got to learn from him but TH-cam has been my best friend
I’m sure your Grandfather would be very pleased that you are enjoying using his 10d and in some way you are still learning from him, he enabled the journey… Starting you down a road of discovery. I wish you every success with your photography and please get in touch if you need any guidance. Always happy to help others on their journey, especially ones who have photographer grandfathers watching over them! Best Wishes. Roy
Oh my gosh!! You are taking me WAY back...my first REAL digital camera I shot weddings and portraits with was the 10D, and I still have it, and it still works!! I started my photography career with film, so the ability to change ISO during a shoot was a real bonus. When I look back at my images, some of my most favorite images were taken with the 10D. Thanks for posting!
Long live the 10D! It’s really lovely editing the files because it’s so so so fast
@@RoyRiley I had a chance to shoot the 10D this week. I'm actually a little surprised at how clean and sharp the images look, and I SWEAR Canon was doing something special with their sensors back then that they aren't doing now!
I enjoy your videos, so thanks for posting!
I got back into photography in 2009. So my “iconic” digital camera to learn on was the later prosumer 40D. Paired with the 17-55 2.8 EF-S zoom I got some brilliant images with its 10mp crop sensor. I had it for 4 years and eventually replaced it with a 5Dii which, aside from sensor size and slightly better ISO. Wasn’t all that much better. We moved house recently and I’d done a personal project in Istanbul in 2009. My wife found the images and they still stand up. The dynamic range and colours are gorgeous. Cheers for the channel Roy.
I had the 40d for a while back in the day. Really was a great camera and like you say the pictures still hold up. Mostly it’s all about the photographer, the lighting and the subject.. I always say that a good picture is a good picture no matter what camera or lens it was shot with. On the other hand a bad picture shot on ten grands worth of state of the art gear is still utter garbage
I have 10D and I just bought RF6 II. I really like your videos, your calm and "none-acting" talking is very pleasant to listen and also easy to follow for a listener who is not a native English speaker.
The 10D was my first digital SLR camera. I saved my college minimum wage for a year to buy it new for $1500. Used it for 7 years before upgrading with 50D. Have great memories with the camera. Only complaints I had was the slow (1sec) start up and review time. It is also pre EF-S lenses, which I wished it was compatible with. Just fixed its card slot pins that my toddler bent so that I can use it again.
Nice! Yes it was painfully expensive back in the day. I too have had a few bent cf card pins due to toddlers! Great you got it fixed. R
Great video. I had my first DSLR in October 2001 with the D30. It was a revelation for me shooting motorsport, rallying in particular. The 10D was another notch up. I have both cameras and they still work perfectly. Even though the 10D is way past it’s shutter count!
Nice! Long live the 10d!
I wanted it to be my first DSLR back in 2006, after shooting film for a bit but I got a bargain on a used 20D. I was around 17 years old and underwhelmed by it as at that time new exciting stuff was coming out like 5D and cameras with better specs, live view and what not. I honestly believed that I’m not getting the results because my gear is not good enough. As an effect I lost interest in photography for almost 10 years. Then I took it out last year and oh boy was I dumb. I was taking great portraits and landscapes, far better than I used to take with my iPhone. I started printing them out, making home albums. I still have the very same camera that I bought 18 years ago and although I moved to 5D mk2 I’m not getting rid of it. Thank you for spreading out the message that it’s not the newest camera that matters, but taking pictures.
Great story! Glad you are back shooting now. All the best. Roy
The 10D (with a battery pack) was my first digital SLR and I used it mainly on the water taking pics of yacht racing. I still have it and it is still taking faultless photos - even after being splashed with seawater and being dropped into the bottom of boats. Even though I eventually purchased a 5D Classic, I still used it as a backup camera until I got a 5D3. Having used the 10D for many years I must say that it taught me a lot about using DSLRs that stood me in good stead with later cameras.
Thanks for sharing this! Really pleased to hear of your experience. I shot loads of yacht racing too. Took the 10d offshore many times and it never missed a beat! All the very best to you. RR
Stunning images, Roy. I really love them! I can hardly believe they were taken with a 10D.
Cheers David. Much appreciated. It really does mean the world to me to get comments like this. Wishing you all the very best. RR
I had a Canon 10d some 15 years ago and liked it a lot, great camera. My dad now has it in his wee collection. Last year I decided to learn to use my DSLR properly, I had a dinky wee Canon 100d. I bought a lovely Canon 30d and took over 5000 photos in a few months. I then got a chance of a 40d with only 9000 shutter count. I've loved both cameras and improved my skill level. I hardly use the 100d as it's too awkward to remember all the menu adjustment settings. I bought a lovely Nikon D700 just before Christmas. I am just about to sell my 30d and 40d but watching your video makes me realise, no I'll just keep them they are great.
Awesome! Great story. I would love to get my hands on a d700. Always wanted one! Sticking with what you have is never a bad idea
I enjoy all of your videos very much but I love this one. I have a few 10D bodies and still use them occasionally as well as my 1D classic, I also started out with film and although slow and a bit challenging I love the images from the early bodies they seem to have a quality you can't get with new equipment, for lack of a better term I feel they have soul. Love the channel and beautiful work my friend keep it up!
Thank you for your lovely words and support. It really does mean so much to hear this kind of thing. I could not agree more when you use the word “soul” there is something more technical about later cameras that while amazing in their own way, has stripped that soul away. Interesting stuff! All the very best for 2022. RR
Still have mine, quite often take it along to a client shoot, and switch cameras just to experiment with the 10d (clients never know the difference, they really don't!), primarily shooting on 5dmk4's now - what I still love about the 10d is because it's slow...it makes you slow down and consider what your doing, the files are superb and have that film quality. It must be that sensor, as many other cameras I seem to remember from that era.
One that springs to mind is the legendary Fuji S3Pro, and the original 5D.
You also mentioned it's so nice to work with smaller files I totally agree, save your HD space!! :)
Great review and subscribed, great content mate 👍
Cheers Dan! Really appreciate your comment. Cheered me up this morning among a sea of nonsense!
Thanks for this. I don't go quite this far back but I regular shoot my 5D (classic) and 40D.
Nice! Both lovely simple cameras.
After my dad had all his camera gear stolen ages ago, he had gotten a 10d used with a massive bag holding the battery grip, extra battery’s and some lenses. He was using it for friends and family’s weddings and some pictures of me and my siblings when we were younger, as of right now I’ve been playing with it and I really enjoy it. It’s a little hard to use but that’s most likely me not fully understanding certain settings the camera has. Funny thing too, I’ve seen it with the battery grip since he bought it, so when I had taken it off it looked like a completely different camera, didn’t seem to fit in my hands very well either
Nice story! Sad to hear your dad had his gear nicked but he must have been excited to get hold of the 10d! Yes the grip makes a huge difference to the feel and look of the camera. Good luck with it. Still a very capable camera!
Thank you so very much for this video! I have a 10D that I had relegated to the back of the closet years ago. I am just an amateur and used to love capturing shots with the 10D, but I drifted away from photography. Now I have the spark back and am trying to learn more. I love that you helped me feel I can use the 10D I have and not need to run out and spend a BUNCH of money on a new body. You've inspired me to go out and try. Now if you could just fix the AF on my Canon 50 mm 1.4 I'd really be in business :)
Good to hear your inspired to pick your camera up again. Can’t help with the 50 1.4 I’m afraid! My experience of that lens is that they all fall apart eventually! 50mm F1.8 STM might be a good value replacement.
Great video Roy. I was using my 10D right up to 2014, having bought new, it in 2003. Unfortunately my camera succumbed to spray from an errant wave, in Portugal (yes, no water seals on the old girl!) and a couple of days later it just stopped working, and that was it. The end!!
I have an 18x12" picture, hanging on my wall, taken in 2003. Absolutely no one who looks at it has any idea with what camera, and when, the pic was taken? Even more of a shock is when they learn that the sensor is a mere 6.4MP!
In fact the picture was actually printed from a 4.2 pixel jpeg, having shot in RAW originally.
I bought a 10D for my wife back in the day and she still uses it today. I use two Canon 20Ds with primes and grips still today. They bought make great pictures.
Nice! The 20d appears to be shining through as the classic of that era!
I started off with the 20D. I had some problems with that one, and had it replaced with a 40D through the warranty company. I loved both of them, and got some great results with both! After 13 years my 40D finally took its last picture a couple weeks ago. Everything works on it, but as soon as you press the shutter button, it turns off. I didn’t feel like paying $300 to get it fixed, so I picked up a low shutter count used 5D Mark II for the same amount. I can’t wait for that to get here! I’ve always wanted to try a full frame DSLR! I really enjoy, and appreciate your videos! Keep them coming!!
Wow that’s a good story. Sorry to hear of the loss of your 40d but I guess 13 years is a great innings for any camera. I rented a 40D for a couple of weeks while I had another camera repaired and was blown away by the quality at the time. Pound for pound I think that series of canon camera has always been very strong. Make me wonder about the 90D! You will enjoy the full frame experience.. only issue is that the lenses can be a bit pricey. Thanks for your thoughts on this. All the best. Roy
@@RoyRiley Luckily, all of my lenses have EF mounts, so it works out perfectly! I hope you and your family had a great holiday season!
@@danspanos that’s good news Dan. Same back to you and yours! Let’s wish for a successful and healthy 2022
I started on a 40D too. You might be disappointed with the 5Dii's autofocus... it's actually far inferior to that of the 40D!
@@RichardSilvius Im not actually noticing too big of a difference so far, but I guess time will tell!
The 10D was my first ever DSLR and I got some wonderful memories taken with it. Mine used to blow the highlights very easily but other than that, was a great camera :)
I bought the 10D today at a thrift store for $10. I bought the charger for it, and memory card online. Interesting video, I never really shot anything. The wife and I use polaroid film for important photos, and of course take pictures on the phone too. Those get lost and lose their meaning easily, we’ve got a nice printer so I hope that’ll change. We’ve always been into retro stuff, and she has a newer canon. But I bought the 10D on a whim to look and take pictures of birds. From everyones stories here, looks like I’m not disappointed.
What a great buy! I remember my credit card bill from when I bought mine new…
I just got a eos D30, both as collector item and to just play with. I love these old cameras and the challenges they pose!
Nice move! Never got my hands on the D30!
Great to see this video of the lovely 10D which was my first jump from film to digital SLR I cut my teeth using digital in 2003 shooting in Japan. Heavy use for 2 weeks rain or shine day and night, fleeting Geishas etc.. When I finished I knew then there was no turning back. I also shot Jpeg but back then RAW was onerous to use with how slow workstations were to process them along with the software not yet there. Key of course is just getting the technicals right and the files will be fine, you has no choice in the matter back then 😂 I still have my battle scarred 10D as a memento and it still works amazingly with a new battery I bought on Amazon.
10D would make a great bootcamp training camera for the new photographer, stick a 50 on it and the assignment is give me a good portfolio, have at it.
My first Canon Digital camera was the D30, which was only three megapixels, same form factor and body as the one you've got there but half the resolution. It wasn't long before I upgraded to the original EOS-1D and I loved that camera to bits and still have it today, it still feels incredibly solid like it's made out of unobtaininium. Even then, people were amazed that I could print 4-megapixel images and produce amazing prints from them. I don't think people realise that billboards were printed from 2 megapixel (Kodak Pro DCS 520) and 6 megapixel (Kodak Pro DCS 560) Kodak/Canon hybrid cameras of the day. Obviously daisy pattern dithering and viewing distance aside, those billboard images looked just as good as anything else shot on film. I still dig out all my old cameras and take them for a spin sometimes, its good fun.
Nice! Interesting history. Used to shoot with one of those old Canon / Kodak cameras.. my first dig! Not owned by me though.. first assignment with it was to shoot the River of fire on the Thames on Millennium New Years Eve.
My first proper digital camera after leaving film behind, suddenly felt I developed some nostalgic emotions when I watch this video because it was a genuinely good quality workhorse back then. Obviously any phone is better than this today, but I still have an emotional soft spot for this old banger 😉
Totally agree on all counts! All the best. RR
A little funny to look back at those earlier digital cameras we all thought were tech' marvels at the time, and the huge progress to today's cameras. We didn't really know any better, working with little, lo res back screens, usable ISO topping out at 1600, or less, 3 fps, and 32mb cards. I recall that to cover a football game with my D1 (worth more than the company Fiesta I had...!) I needed to change battery at half time, and beware shooting over 1000iso. But as your photos clearly show, with a good photographer behind it, and a sharp lens in front, they did the job just fine...
Looking back it really was an interesting time. Information was not so readily available with the web still in infancy. Information was exchanged between colleagues and learnt on the job! Do I remember a book by Rob Galbraith??
@@RoyRiley I remember regularly reading Rob Galbraith's website (via my AOL dial up internet...), as if I was studying for an exam, knowing digital cameras were going to the next big thing!
@@AndySnap ahh yes. Blast from the past.. A O Hell! As we used to call it
The 10D was my first DSLR. I bought it used from a popular photography forum member.
Paired with EF 28-105mm f/3.5 - 5.6 I shot some amazing photos. When I married my wife began using it. She quickly surpassed my photography skills.
While nearly every other photographer made fun the camera she consistently shot better and more creative images than they did.
It's a great little camera. I made a quantum leap when I upgraded to a 5D Mk2. We upgraded her to an RP which she adores because it fits her small hands.
Despite its limitations in 2022 if you cannot produce great photos with the 10D buying a $6000 mirrorless is a waste of money.
If I were to gift a camera to a family member I would not hesitate to do so with a 10D w/EF 50mm f/1.8 USM lens.
I'd wait to see if that relative is willing to learn basic photography such as lighting, shadows, composition, aperture, shutter speed, etc. before I spent real money on current equipment.
Great story and I totally agree! It’s all about the photographer. The camera is just a box with a hole in it!
@@RoyRiley That forum is Fred Miranda.
I still have mine (from new), and although used heavily for weddings etc, it's pristine.
My upgrade was the 5d mk1, and it's still used as is the 10d.
Nice! Both great cameras and lovely to edit those sensible files
Je commence à peine la photographie, et c'est l'appareil que j'utilise. Mon père l'avait acheté à sa sortie !
I started off with a Canon 20d and then moved onto a 40d. I still have a 40d now, still a great camera. Part of me wishes I had my 20d still for a bit of nostalgia. I’ve had numerous Canon’s since.
Hi Colin, thanks for your comment. 40d is an awesome camera. A few others have commented positively about that camera and I found it very good when I shot with it a few years back. I think the 20d will be the classic from the range though. Might pick one up if opportunity presents! More old cameras for the shelf! All the best for 2022 and thanks for your support of the channel. RR
The 10D was my very first DSLR. i have used it since I bought it new when it first came out and shot with it until a few years ago when I bought a 1D Mark III. I still have it but mainly my 9 year old uses it now. I still think it’s a great versatile camera capable of wonderful images.
Nice! It’s great to hear that the next generation are getting some use from these cameras! Really cool. Thanks for your comment. RR
Thankyou! Great video! I am looking for an old DSLR just for a bit of fun. Small, dark viewfinder is a deal breaker for me with the EOS 10d.
Well I’m sure the remaining herd of dwindling wild 10d cameras will feel awful about missing out on being in the hands of the all time wonderful Tim Piotr! We all wish you luck on your quest.. RR
@@RoyRiley All time wonderful- how do you know me? But seriously I have watched a lot of YT vids on retro and you are the first to mention the viewfinder. Crazy when it is such an important part of user experience.
@@timpiotr4857 I don’t know you but just being kind. I am sure you are very wonderful. Take care out there in the world Mr P. Thank you for your comments. R
Tip - Sigma lenses designed for Canon cropped sensor EOS cameras use the EF not EF-S mount. I use a Sigma 18-55mm zoom on my Canon D30. The D30 came out in 2000 and was Canon's first production line DSLR. All Canon DSLR's before that were hand built on EOS 1 film chassis. It is only 3.1 mp, but being released before the first EOS 1D was used by many professionals. Remember the original Nikon D1 pro camera was only 2.74 mp. The D30 was followed by the D60 at 6.3 mp and then the 10D. I think Canon switched from putting the D before the model designation to after it to avoid confusion with Nikon DSLRs which have always put the D first. The D30 gives excellent results up to ISO 400, and using interpolation software can make good A4 prints. The camera is built like a tank and continues to be very reliable. The only slight fault I can find with its image quality up to ISO 400 is a slight reddish tinge to photos taken in bright sunlight. This is due to an over sensitivity to infrared, like the original Leica M8, and the fix is the same: add an IR cut filter to the lens.
Thank You Geoffrey. This is great information! Around 2000 I was using the Canon /Kodak brick and sometimes the D1. Somehow I missed spending money on the D30. Jumped in at the D60 which I thought was really amazing at the time. Thanks for the heads up on the sigma lenses. I used to have the 12-24 which was very good on these bodies. Thanks again for you time and info. All the best. RR
Back in the jurrasic period i spent a fortune on a new olympus E1. Its still going strong
Nice! Always wanted one of those
I picked one up today in almost mint condition for £30 and I was surprised by the weight. I was able to get some photos inside a coffee house. This will be mainly fun use though.
The good thing about these older cameras, there's less to go wrong it gets you to think about what you're taking and if you are after image stabilization then mount it on tripod or a brick wall.
Nice! Yup the old “shirt sleeve brick wall clamp” trick.. works about 50% of the time roughly half the time.. always take a few frames though… got me out of a hole many times over the years!
I mean the images are wonderful thanks to the photographer for sure! Composition…. Fire
Cheers! I guess the photographer is rather important to all these things!
I've kept all my digital cameras. The 10D was way out of my budget when it was released, even the 300D consumer model was very expensive at the time.
So I managed to get the powershot G2 as a digital start.
When I finally had enough to make the purchase the 10D, it had already been withdrawn from the market.
So what did I buy? The 20D? No I went for Nikon's D70 18-70 kit. Now that was, and still is a great camera.
Many years later I picked a nice 10D out of pure curiosity for about 10% of the original price and I have kept it and do take it out now and then.
I realise I was lucky that it had been gone from the shops in 2004 because, although it took very nice images, it felt painfully slow in use compared
to the D70, which had/has an off to review time of about 0-0.5 seconds. And it has a flash sync speed of 1/500s.
But Canon 10D still produced/s nicer high ISO images.
CF cards were extremely expensive too, back then, and it took quite a few years for prices to start dropping.
Thx for sharing your nice shots with your 10D.
Great story! Thanks for the comment and thoughts. I remember Those early digital days well! Expensive times! All the best. RR
@@RoyRiley Indeed. I wish I had been more patient when going digital. You can pick up soome amazing deals these days, like Canon 1Ds mk III, for peanuts.
The dawn of digital photography. I buy a Digital Rebel 300D (with the same sensor as the 10D). I have plans to buy the 10D, but the 20D came...so I buy the 20D. A 128mb CF card cost me $125!!!!! Thanks for the memories!!!
This was my first entry into Digital as well, close to 20 years ago, shifting from film, I can't say I can dispute your claime about the EF-S mount but I absolutely did shoot with a Sigma 18-200 lens on that camera and as far as I know that is an EF-S lens. Most of my lenses were lense that migrated from my Canon EF film Cameras 24-70 2.8L was probably the lens that lived on it for almost everything.
My memories of this long distant past are hazy to say the least so I could easily be mistaken about the efs mount! I believe it was introduced at the same time as the 20d but all of the older EF lenses worked on the 10d so who knows!
@@RoyRiley I jave a hazy recollection as well, I am tempted to dig through my old files to find the EXFI data, I am also thinking it might be possible I was shooting that 18-200 Sigma on 7D that I upgraded to years later. I shot with that 10D for a while, it jad it's limitations for sure, but I learned to get the most put of it. I had a young photographer compliment a shot I got at a races years ago and he proclaimed he couldn't wait to get a better Camera, he was shooting with a Rebel T7i, I laughed and told him his current Camera offered more than anything that was available when my 10D was released. I love the advances made in technology and what it makes possible, but I think the overwhelming influence and distraction of daily reviews and promotion of new tech jas taken away the kind of make it work and get what you can from your tools ethic that most of us had that grew up before TH-cam, and IG. That said I'm still waiting for the High Resolution EOS RL Promised by Canon in responce to Sony's release of the a7RIV, back in October of 2019. This is 4 years later now, and there has already been an a7r5, the A1, and finally they are talking about an EOS R1, I'm just skeptical whether it's more than an intended distraction to interrupt conversations about the actual coming A1 II, A9 II, and the very real bar set by actual released cameras like the a7r5, A1, and Z9 that all came out while we have still been waiting. I'm kind of laughing at myself a little because I say all of this after having a lengthy conversation today with someone about the utility of shooting film on 50 year old cameras with 50, 60, and 70 year old glass. It's all about the light ypu capture.
This is the first DSLR I shot and at the time I had some memory cards already so mostly looks raws. This sensor/processor/capture one from the time yields some o the nicer colours I've seen from digital and your examples, even if jpgs confirm that. This camera has something different that was lost on newer models
Thanks Vincent’s! Yes I was very impressed when I looked back at the JPEG’s from this camera! Lovely colour
Hi Roy , interesting piece I think in our pursuit of “better” its easy to forget that some of these early DSLRs were actually pretty decent especially with good glass. I started ( 37 years of film before that) with the next model, the 20D in 2005 , still have it in perfect working order . Looking back on the images I took with it I think they’ve stood up pretty darn well, even up to A3 and the camera sits proudly on the bookshelf in my collection along with my folks old cameras. It had many (but not all) of the issues you outlined with the 10D although not the lens limitations but is definitely on a different planet compared to the R5 I’m shooting with today :) I think for editing I was using Paint Shop Pro - not sure what happened to that. Cheers from NZ
We have come a very long way since those days - yet in some ways not that far at all. Still a box with a hole in it with a lens sticking out the front! How is life in NZ?? Hope all keeping well. RR
@@RoyRiley Hi Roy , well mid summer of course and in the last week Omicron broke out of our border quarantine and is loose in the community and slowing replacing Delta with arrived in August which we’d all but extinguished. We’ve watched what happened across the ditch (Australia) and there is a fair bit of nervousness here with a noticeable increase in mask wearing and QR code scanning at businesses . As a much older person its been limiting photographically my wanting to minimise exposure possibilities. However we’ve done well in NZ so far so I have hopes it won’t turn to custard over winter. I was thinking about what you said and a pretty good analogy to camera’s is the internal combustion engine - largely unchanged in it general operating principals for well over 100 years and still delivering the same result - rotating power - however the real difference is a huge increase in squeezing more power out of the fuel . :) cheers from a very sunny Auckland .
Until just the other day, the EOS 10D was the only DSLR I owned, and not even with the original lens - instead it had the 55 - 200mm lens, but it's served me well. I haven't gone much more modern, now with an EOS 1000D. For the price of the upgrade, though, I now have two lenses that I can use (the 18 - 55mm and the 55-200mm). The 10D is now packed away, lensless (with a cover in place), probably to be kept for posterity, or until it's an expensive collector's item.
Long live the 10D! Good luck with your new camera Stephen.. may all your images be beautiful! RR
This was my first digital camera . Loved it . In the studio with lights it was amazing for portraits . Buffering was an issue . But still a good camera . Roy loving your channel . I have a question can you do a video around non native lenses for canon please
Thank you! I am no expert with non native lenses I’m afraid. I have recently adapted an old 58mm Helios and started shooting with it and the results are good but focussing is a bit hit and miss, especially if you are under any kind of pressure. I think that’s the reason I have always stuck with canon lenses because they are super reliable and just get the job done which is my number one priority for professional work. For fun I would love to play around with some more non native lenses though! Any lens suggestions I should look into?
@@RoyRiley Laowa 100mm macro , I need to get this for macro work . Tamron 70 - 200 is incredible. Sharpness is great
@@udaymistry8774 cheers! I will check them out. I use a Tamron 90mm for macro. EF fit so AF works. Not bad!
Hi Roy, absolutely love the topics you cover in the videos. I have to wholeheartedly agree on the magic of Canon colors... most of the time just adding contrast and fixing the exposure in post if needed brings and image to life. I'm curios on what lenses did you use back in the days on this APSC camera hence the 1.6x crop factor, since APSC lenses as you mentioned where not a thing yet.
Thanks Luke! Appreciate your comment! I came directly from the EOS 1 film cameras so had the full bag of original EOS L Glass, 17-35, 20-35, 28-70, 70-200, 300, for a wide I used the 15mm fisheye and then a couple of lenses from Sigma.. long since destroyed.. I think they were the 12-24 and 10-20.
@@RoyRiley Thank you for the detailed response, keep up with the amazing work.
@@Luke. No worries man! Thanks for watching. R
Thanks for sharing, I used this on a wedding in 2005 with the Canon 550EX speedlite the Pics came out great. This was my transition from film medium format (Kowa Super 66) Currently I went to Canon 60D and now EOS R. I love the technology. Film was very expensive including developing. 120 rolls had 12 shots. Great video, go out and challenge yourself using the 10D. I purchased another 10D it's in new condition.
Thanks for this interesting stuff! What a period of time we have lived though.. all the best. R
Thx for the video! By this time i had the poor man 10d ak 300d as i was by this time student. Then i got a 20D a bit later that was pretty nice with the ef-s mount !
I think the 20d was the real classic
@@RoyRiley i had shortly a D30 in between but was not fan about colors rendering but this was just the time to décide myself on 20D. With 10-22 efs it was a great combo.
Enjoyed the video. I think that older cameras are a great option for photographers on a budget. I shoot with a Canon 5D mark II and a collection of mid-range lenses (that I collected while shooting with a 70D for some time before getting the 5D2.) It's a wonderful camera and I have no regrets getting one even though it's an older camera.
Cheers Kevin! 5D2 is such a great camera.. I have a video about it on my channel if you are interested! Thanks for your comment. RR
@@RoyRiley thanks, I'll check it out.
Great video! Like others here this was my first real digital body and a game changer at the time. Later went onto the 40D, 5D etc, a well trodden path i'm sure. Sadly 20 years on 'real' progress seems to have slowed since - the Canon RP is probably comparable to this today in 2022, and while it's a fine (and great travel) camera it's not so game changing. Some of the lenses (eg RF 14-35) now cost a huge amount and meanwhile the likes of Apple etc are doing amazing things in software, (low light image stacking etc) while Canon, Nikon etc stick their head in the ground.
Interesting times indeed! I guess it’s important to think about where we have come from.. scratching tigers in the side of caves.. to where we are today.. flying HD camera drones that fly themselves and sending pictures to millions of people around the world in less than a second. Everything else is just noise really.
Roy, thank you for great review. My general camera is analogue Nikon F3 HP, digital fullframe Nikon goes for commercial purpouses only.The camera I entered digital photography was Nikon D40 with marvelous colours it's CCD sensor produced. I changed many gears since than, but all the time in my "park" was a classic digital SLR for fun: Canon EOS 1D MK-II, Nikon D1, Fujifilm S-Pro3, Nikon D2x, Nikon D100. Nowdays my fun camera is Canon EOS 1Ds Mk-II and I tune it that way, that it gives me a Portra 400 look pictures right from camera. And I paid just 180 eur for it! I would like to buy a 10D in order to compare result on low iso from those two legends side by side.
Nice history! The F3 HP! What a camera, especially with that big motordrive.. looks great
My first Canon dSLR was the D60 which was a lot like the Elan IIe I was shooting film with at the time. No longer have the D60 because I traded it for a 40D later traded for a 70D which I still use. These old camera bodies are like old cars, you can use them forever as long as you take care of them!
70D such a good camera!
Absolutely 10D, IDS, Rebel T7 and Hasselblad H3D-39 but my first digital camera was Konica-Minolta
I was very keen on that camera back then, but held off long enough until D70 popped up and I was sold.
Never got to use the D70 but sounds like it was a good camera by all accounts
@@RoyRiley 10D was the first proper dslr for the masses and it preceeded D70 by something like 12-18 months; D70 did not have many shortcomings of 10D such as slow ON and poor viewfinder in other ways they were quite similar from what I read while I never had a chance to use 10D
@@utube321piotr thanks for that. Might go looking for a well priced d70 just for history sake
I bought one in 2006 used for $750 USD and what a deal, what a great camera, it really was a game changer. When I got this camera, I instantly sold my film Elan7 camera.
Just purchased the 30D with a grip form KEH to use older lenses. That have errors with newer DSLR's
Nice! Hope it all works out. RR
I bought one second hand in 2010, based on me having an EOS10QD film camera and lenses. During the lockdown I had the sensor cleaned (which probably cost as much as the camera is worth), and have had great fun with it since. It's quite slow and ponderous to use, but my main gripe is the CF card. I can't connect the camera directly to a PC as the software won't run on anything later than Windows XP, so I need to take the card out and put it in a card reader. I feel nervous inserting and removing the card as I feel I'm going to bend some of those pesky pins
Great story - thanks for sharing. I love how different people come to these older cameras and still find use in them. Pulling out the CF card and using a card reader has been my standard work flow for about twenty years! If your careful it should be OK. I have had a few broken pins over the years but it’s fortunately a rare thing.. touch wood.
Try this: go to the yellow section of the menu and select ‘communications’ (just above format) then select ‘PTP’ option. Your camera should behave using the USB cable to your computer/laptop thereafter. Transfer rate will predominantly be influenced by the write speed of your CF card. Mine works on windows 10 & 8 :) Good luck.
I couldn’t agree more with your review.i still have 1 of my 10D cameras. I think in the early days we got such good results as we still thought like a film photographer......low iso...low grain
I agree. I think my happiest years as a photographer were those early days of digital because I didn’t have to worry about processing film all the time but was not yet machine gunning away and having to spend hours culling. Maybe need to revisit this process. Thanks for your comment. RR
My first digital Canon was the 20D with a battery grip. I waited until some labs, and myself, understood how to print images from digital files. The camera technology far outpaced the paper and printing technology when digital cameras were first introduced. Canon caught a lot of flak for using a CMOS sensor opposed to the CCD sensor Nikon (and other brands) used when they finally came out with a digital camera. But in terms of a dust collector the CCD sensor literally left the camera and captured dust and brought it back. CCD sensors were awful when compared to a CMOS sensor. I worked part time at a retail camera store at the time I bought my 20D and we had all kinds of customers bringing back Nikons, to be fixed, because their images were fuzzy, Nikon had a problem with achieving good focus on their digital cameras. Interestingly enough Nikon's response to us was "tell them to fix it in photoshop." It forever soured me on Nikon, and I've only used them when an employer had me use one. I've never personally purchased one and probably never will. Their arrogance, along with Canon's R&D, lenses, fast focus, color and enhanced R&D, cost Nikon the pro market, which I don't think they've ever gained back. I made a ton of images with the 20D and used it for years. Like you, many of my images were enlarged to 20x24" and beyond with good results. The 20D was a great camera--I never owned a 10D but your images with it look excellent.
Such a great informative comment. Thank you. I did not have much experience with early Nikon Digital so it’s interesting to hear this bit of history. Thanks for your time. All the best. Roy
Some interesting comments there , at the time in 2005 when I was looking to get my first DSLR I compared the 20D with its equivalent Nikon (can’t remember the model) having come from the Nikon film background but on balance the Canon won and proved to be a really reliable little beast that took some of my best images . In all the time I had it I only had occasional issues with dust that required a small amount of attention so good choice I guess :) . Interestingly some of them found their way to my youtube channel recently in a retro piece I did in lockdown. The 20D is still working today although it took a well earned retirement a decade back. :) Still with Canon and recently moved to the R5 which of course still has that familiar Canon feel to my previous models from the 5D series and the XXD series. Cheers from NZ
i recently bought a 20D, using M42's and the amazing sigma 17-70! It inspired me to take digital more seriously, so i just found a 5D mkii. Its all helped me cope since my marriage broke down, and husky (Fuji) died!
So sad to hear of your troubles man. Life can be a bitch sometimes. RIP Fuji. Wishing your husky the very best of everything for the next part of the journey. With regard to the marriage… who knows how these things unfold. From the darkest times there will always be something brighter.. give it time and an open mind. M42 lenses are great… I’m playing with a few right now and I love love love the character. All these old Canon cameras are very cool. Great bargains and a wonderful way to spend time in photography.. thanks for sharing your experiences and good luck for the future. Stay strong and keep shooting.. never played with the sigma 17-70.. might have to have a look. Thanks for the heads up. RR
interesting feature!! Amazing photos. It is more about the photographer than the camera. A good photographer can shoot fantastic images with a cheaper camera, while the most expensive camera is of not much use for less interested hobbyists. Thanks!
Thanks for this lovely comment. Pleased you enjoyed the video. Wishing you a wonderful week. RR
My first DSLR. Shot in RAW, with RAWshooter as RAW converter. Still have it and videos like this make me try it out once more. It’s slow but I’ll adapt.
4.13 The Sydney Harbour Bridge.
I totally get the point of this video. Myself, despite the fact that far more capable and sophisticated cameras are available to me, in my spare time when I’m out for a walk, I often shoot with my Nikon D200! There’s just something about the look of the pictures, as you said, a kind of “Kodak film” quality, that keeps me coming back. (Perhaps the older CCD sensor?) As long as one understands the strengths and limitations of these older beauties, great results can still be achieved!
Nice. Thanks Robert. I do find technology interesting when we look back over time. There does tend to be a “new is obviously better” theme to so much camera talk when actually lots of this older gear is still perfectly fine for many uses. Having said all that I’m currently eyeing up the Canon R5 so I guess I’m just as guilty of newcameraitus as anyone else! It’s the better AF that’s drawing me in!
Istill have mine, Iuse a T8I mostly now but the 10d just has a great feel & look.. love it. the 10d shoots like the AE!.
I was convinced that digital imaging would never last 🤔🤔 and so I resisted the temptation to trade in one of my pair of beloved EOS 3 bodies until the 20D came out at an affordable price.
Wow, what a revelation. Great little camera. I recall a friend of mine who had the 1dS body, looking at some prints I printed on a little A4 Epson home printer and he was blown away by the quality of the prints. As you say in the video you can make very decent enlargements from those files (I believe the 20D was 8mp) and that memory has always stuck wth me when watching this insane push to get more and more pixels onto a sensor.
Haha! I still have an EOS 3 on my shelf! Amazing camera! I think the 20D was the real classic of the time especially with the Efs lens mount. Thank you for your great comments. Really pleased you are enjoying my videos. RR
It's funny to see the same minor lack of contrast is noticeable with my 20D. While my 550D gives more (too) punchy images. My 5D mkII sits in between. As it comes to colorrendering, the 20D wins. My real only minor gripe with the 20D is the lack of lens information in its exif. But as the first EF-S capable Canon xxD dslr and pairing it with the last generation of STM kitlenses will give results on par with my 5D mkII with 85mm 1.8 USM prime with only minor lack of sharpness. Though I have to get a new nifty fifty (gave my old mkII away to a beginner), I bet with the STM version, in a blind test it will be hard to see the difference between pictures taken by my 5D with 85mm and my 20D with 50 1.8 STM.
Thanks Patrick! You always leave the best comments! Really insightful and right up my street. I might pick up a 20D to play with if opportunity presents. Wishing you every success for 2022. Roy
Great video, my first DSLR was the 300D, which had the same sensor as the 10D, I later upgraded to the 30D. I may be looking through rose-tinted glasses, but I think the files from those early cameras had a certain quality that's difficult to pin point
I just ordered one from WEX for £27 looks great condition
Wow! Bargain.
My girlfriend gave me the 10d. I use it sometimes with my sigma 150-600 sport for bird photography. I can't crop so much but at 600 mm i don't need. The image quality is great even nowadays. The AF isn't very accurate and fast, some times in low light with a bird in the branches it can't catches the subject.
Good to hear you are still making good use of the 10d!
I still shoot with it once in a while and still get some amazing pictures out it!!
Nice one Christopher! What is your lens of choice for this camera? Using anything interesting? RR
@@RoyRiley I use a Tamron 70-210 and it still gets super sharp pictures with stunning colors almost closer related to the softer colors in the fujifilm x series cameras. It was one of ny dads old cameras and I love shooting with it, along with his old D30 with a a sigma 170-500. Sometimes you just can't bea the older equipment for particular effects and softness in the pictures
@@christopherparis2896 thank you 🙏 it’s good to hear what glass people are using. I agree regarding the similarity to Fuji tones
I started of with a 300D, got the Russian Hack and ended up with a 310D. A camera that had almost what the 10D offered. Was very happy with my first digital SLR. And at that time it was a pricebreaker!
I did not know about the 310D. Just google it! Interesting history! I got involved with a few of the |"alternative firmware upgrades' with other cameras though.. Great forward thinking community .. Did your 310D ever brick? Thanks for your comment. All the best. Roy
@@RoyRiley Never! Gave it to my girlfriend, still working.
@@rumtreibbaer awesome!
Excelente las fotos !!! Gracias . Great video
Thank you! 🤟RR
My first DSLR was the Rebel XT. Very similar to this camera in many respects; beats it by 2 mp, lol.
I still own it, and still use it as a knock around kind of camera that resides permanently in my vehicle.
it's a camera, they all function the same. If you understand how to use one, you know how to use any of them.
As long as I do my job right, it takes great pictures.
Indeed. Wise words
my first was the Canon 20D then next 1Diii ...both still sitting on my shelf.
Nice! What a camera the 20d was / is!
@@RoyRiley Lots of wonderful memories.
I have 2 of these believe it or not one is brand new still in the box I bought it a few years back for £50.00 I have a soft spot for 6mp dslr cameras I always seem to get photos I am most happy with straight out of the camera, and to be honest 6mp on a APSC sensor just seems to kick, and the images still look great on a 50 odd inch TV and 4K is only just over 8mp just to give perspective. No need to shoot with a camera capable of billboard size resolution if you just take photos for your own pleasure.
Nice! Great that you are still using this classic. Totally agree with what you say. I keep wondering about the 20d because they seem like such a bargain.
@@RoyRiley I do have a 20D and apart from the still small display screen it's a big improvement on the 10D as it takes the EFS lenses and has the 9 point auto focus, it's also less of a handful even though it's high quality mag body, oh and it has a toggle as well. I would still favor the 6.3mp over the 8mp though.
@@cerij4242 cheers Ceri! Interesting information. Thanks. RR
My first DSLR was a used 20D! Had it for years and shifted to a used Nikon D200 to get more megapixels... Oh the simple times :D
Nice! Good history
@@RoyRiley I remember I used to dream about a Canon 40D then but it was so bloody expensive! And then I got hooked on medium format film photography, waited a bit and then did assignments with a Nikon D7000 for a bunch of years. Come to think of it, I might look for a beaten up 40D on eBay and maybe I can find one for 50 quid just to get my "dream camera" after all those years :D
Hello, great vid & amazing pics! I’m BRAND NEW to this photography world. What lens should I get? I have the D10. I need the next phase.
i still use my 300D. With the firmware hack i think its more or less like th e10d. love using the camera still today and i take it out from time to time instead of my 80d. i like the images that come out of it.
Nice!
Ive got a 30D that I think is pretty good. I wasn't considering anything earlier, but for £20 what's not to like. As you have shown, in decent light you can get great images. So Ive just made an offer of £30 on eBay for one. Its a nice looking camera, so sitting as part of a collection of other Canons it won't look out of place an will hold its own.. Keep it real mate..!!!
Cheers John. Be aware about the lack of EFS compatibility though. All the best. Roy
Declined my offer of £30….. Wants £42?
It takes an EF lens?
@@johnstaples1606 yup. The 10d was still the standard original EF mount. The 20d was the first in the range to introduce Efs I believe
My first Canon DSLR was the D30 in 2000.
Nice! still got it? I had that Kodak / canon combo camera at that time supplied by the paper I was working for. Interesting memories.
@@RoyRiley Yes, since I keep all the cameras that I bought in my 43 year journey, such as the first SLR (F2A+MD) & MF (500 C/M).
4.19, Sydney as well.
You are bang on! Happy days! Great Place.. you based there?
@@RoyRiley Hi, yes. I used to live quite close to Coogee Beach, and have often done the ocean walk to Bondi.
I think I recognise the pic at 3.52. Is it Coogee beach (Beach street)?
Just bought it today. And it workes just fine with EF-S Sigma 17-50. Although I've heard it does not work with Canon's EF-S 18-55 due to the back lens offset.
nice nice nice. true no efs canon compatibility
- Thank You! I'm currently taking in information of two of my old Canon cameras, 10D and 5D classic. Getting more and more sure they suit me very well, I like to draw and paint aswell.
It has always been hard for me to afford a camera. For a while I used a bad resolution web camera to take photos! I had to because otherwise no photos.
I'm 66 years old and having illnesses that stops me. Now I have lots of cameras but no health, before I was strong and healthy working long hours. But had no money, no camera!
- What to do... 😂😂😂
Just use what you have and enjoy taking pictures! Photography is much more about the vision of the photographer than the camera they choose.. Wishing you improving health for the coming year. I have a feeling 2024 will be a good year for you. RR
Just bought one for 9 dollars. With 28-135 mm lens. In Goodwill. So I think to buy adapter for cf card hope it will work with newer SD cards.
Great buy George! Don’t know about the sd card adaptor. Can’t see why not but time will tell! Good luck with it. RR
@@RoyRiley Thank you. Watching your video made me more enthusiastic about this camera. :)
@@DeePPurPleLemoN worth considering is that just a few short years ago people like me dropped thousands of dollars on this gear the happily went round the globe shooting high end campaigns for clients who utterly loved the pictures. From front pages of national newspapers to billboard advertising. Your 10d is a powerhouse! Use it wisely!
Is that at 3.41 Bondi beach?
Oh my...the 10D...I did a video on this one years ago and what it can still do and who this Canon 10D is for. I can´t use mine anymore...because it finally broke. But for learning photography...I say the Canon 10D is still one of the best and rewarding cameras out there, because you had to...had to get it right in terms of composition and lighting. Once you could do it on the 10D however...any other camera after was a breeze to work with.
Totally agree!
I have the 10D as a fun camera.
I shout RAW with it.
As long as there is good light with less contrast ist perfectly fine; Dynamic range is kinda 0 ;)
The image enhancement feature in Lightroom makes pretty big files out of the 6 megapixels again as long as I shot in good light.
Nice! Thanks for this. RR
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks. I never actually had a 10D though I did have a D60 and then later moved to a 20D. Any chance you can do a video on the D60? Both of these are long gone from my ownership. I do remember finding the 20D as quite a jump from the D60. You now have me wondering about picking up a 20D on flea bay… thanks again
@@NSRJohn cheers! D60 and 10d were quite similar I think. I used mine side by side for years and could not tell much difference between them. Others I am sure will find something to mention. 20d was a good jump up as was the case back then. Good luck if you go after a used one!
My first one 👍
Cheers Bengt
20 D for me but they were great cameras, wish I had kept mine.
I have my eyes open for a nice 20d. Ground breaking camera with the efs lenses
I make the Macrofotos with the Canon 10D and a Sigma Macroobjektiv 2,8 105mm and take the manuel focus. Suoer!
Nice set up!
Got mines for 10 bucks. It was suppose to be broken, but by some miracle, wasn't.
Sounds like an act of divine intervention. May your god be with you!
Amazing shots!!! What lens did you use to take them?
Bag of pro lenses. The usual suspects!
wow... didnt know it about that efs limitation. the 300d has it and it was released the same time. that would be a deal breaker for me. the slowlness doesnt bother me.. its kinda like using a film camera in that sense.
Yes the EFS lens thing makes it a bit complicated
How strange this should pop up. I have just woken from a dream where I had been shooting stills on a movie set with a 10D, that bizarrely took film and Pentax lenses. The moral is no cheese at bedtime, and maybe over 40 years all cameras blur into one.
I went from shooting news on EOS1n to the Canon d30, a truly awful camera with poor autofocus. The 10D felt much more like an EOS1n.
My 10D had two shutters, survived a soaking that required drying on a radiator, and basically anything sport photography in Northern England could throw at it. I had a nightclub column back then, and and it's hard to tell the difference between stuff taken on the later 20D or 40D. With flash to aid the AF focussing was fine. I'm still happy to see 10D images in my portfolio against my modern stuff off 5D3 and 7D2 bodies
The successor 20D was only a marginal improvement. It had a fault with the vertical grip that caused it to lose power, and to be honest left me not trusting it. You would be better off jumping to the 40D, primarily for the bigger screen more focus points and more FPS.
Unless you are pixel peeping a 10D will still be fine for a lot of modern work. I'm confident that if you sent files off it to a national paper picture desk nobody would spot the difference on most jobs.
OK, stuff you can't do with it. There's no ridiculous high ISO capability. I was shooting a night RTC recently and worked at 20,000 ISO, as flash bounces back off the police jackets, you can't do that on a 10D. It won't do high speed bursts (it was OK for rugby though). The dynamic range meant highlights could blow out, even on landscapes, but it was better than s d30.
If I was a teenager looking to learn to use a 'proper' camera it would be a great start. Just pair it with say the Sigma 18 to 50 f2.8 as a starter kit.
EFS lenses, well for a wide, you are better off using the Sigma 10 to 20 as a wide, it's better than the Canon 10 to 22, as I have owned both. Sigma stuff just fits fine.
I tend to divide cameras into loved or hated categories, irrespective of how much money I have made with them. The d30 was dire, but earned a lot, the 40D and 10D were lovely professional tools at the time.
Maybe if you are looking at something older as a starter in APSC, consider the 7D, it does all the modern stuff like video and higher ISO, but now at a bargain price.
What an amazing comment Phil! Thanks for that and for sharing your experience. Crazy dream man! I often have the dreaded “arrived at a shoot without the camera gear” horror dream - luckily not ever quite played out in real life.. give it time! Agreed about that sigma 10-20. It’s a great lens. I am interested in the 18-50 you mention too. Might be worth a look for a review. Thanks again for all your intelligent comments and for supporting the channel. Best wishes to you and your family for 2022. Roy
The Sigma 18 to 50 f2.8 EX is s legacy lens now. You can pick them up quite cheaply now. It has s surprisingly close focus distance, I used one for a regional paper:s weekly food column for many years. It's now been replaced by a 17 to 50 f2.8 with IS. Of course it's not got the EFS mount, so fine on s d30, d60, 10D etc. In moments of stupidity, when using full frame bodies it's been to end up on them with ridiculous vignetting. Of course, in an emergency stuff like the Sigma 10 to 20 can be used on s full frame body, then cropped, unlike Canon's alternatives.
@@philtaylor194 Thanks for this information Phil. Valuable stuff. Much appreciated. RR