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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2023
- David Pogue, CBS Sunday Morning correspondent and host of the Unsung Science podcast, speaks with CNN's Abby Phillip about his now-viral report about OceanGate, the company behind the missing submersible that was bound for the Titanic wreck. #CNN #News
It's time to end these tours of Titanic. Respect the gravesite. Respect the ocean.
Agree. Also, so tired of billionaires turning everything into their playground.
@@Jackster310 Its their money. If you were that rich you'd do some stupid shit too.
The Orcas are doing their best. Bless their spirits!
Exactly. Morbid curiosity.... Like the people who slow down to 2 mph on the highway to gawk at the accidents.
Seriously.
Haven't seen any interviews with Dr. Robert Ballard yet. He is the man to listen to about these things. After he discovered the Titanic in 1985 he always said that it was too dangerous to send a manned submersible down there. Remote vehicles, fine. Not humans. He had a near death experience in Alvin when his 3 man crew went down there in 1986. He would know.
@@user-ef2bx9fb4y THE guy's opinion!
Whatever, these guys know what they are doing.....
Robert Ballard is the man.
@@michael-4k4000apparently not.
@@mountainmama8932 they're not amateurs allures or something.......these are smart men.... the smartest in the world
Paying $250,000 for a ride navigated by a video game controller in 13,000 feet of water is insane.
That’s what the us navy is using to navigate submarines. The components for the navigation panel costs 30k. When their submarine pilots were asked about the navigation controls, the pilots said yea we can get the same thing $18. My source is the BBC program QI
@@cynthiablair8706umm no. There may be some submersible drones that are controlled by controller but naval submarines are definitely not controlled by anything resembling a PlayStation controller.
I'm sure they brought extra batteries for the controller. Just in case.
@@user-ef2bx9fb4yPlease tell us this is sarcasm.
@@user-ef2bx9fb4yit's not. It's just people think it's unprofessional, but if a controller can get the job done it's actually genius cause of simplicity.
Amazing over 100 years ago and the Titanic is still claiming lives. People need to leave that grave yard alone
Best of luck in learning how to spell, r/etard
I know the 19 year old is technically an adult but as a parent I would have not allowed of paid for a ticket for something so unbelievably risky. The back story of this vessel is insane and irresponsible.
Ultra rich and powerful people have a warped sense of the world that regular people can't comprehend.
@@johnjones3813true.
19 is only an adult in the eyes of the law, our brains don't even stop developing until around 25 years old. That's what makes this worse, he's still basically a kid and was not mature enough to make this decision. His rational center, the prefrontal cortex, isn't fully developed.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Prayers to all individuals and families affected.
They talk about the millionaires trapped in the submersible, naturally we all want them to stay healthy and alive, yet no one talks about Gonzalo Lira, a guy who was just reporting from Ukraine, an US citizen, who was imprisoned by the Ukr. army, the media is absolutely silent about it.
The hull was supposed to be 7" instead of 5. There were flammable materials inside. It was never tested at the proper depth. Viewing port window was only certified to withstand pressure at depth of 1300 m, not 4000. Corners were cut. Another couple signed up for one of these trips back in 2016 aboard another one of his submersibles called the Cyclops. Rush felt that the sub had technical problems and cancelled the expedition, but he wouldn't give the people back their quarter of a million bucks and they are still involved in a legal battle to try to get back the money.
Hmm if that's the case then there could have been a breach around the opening where the window is. Could very well be and the sub/capsule imploded.
Yep. A 3rd party company also inspected the carbon fiber hull and found defects. OceanGate apparently 'fixed' the defects but didn't get the hull reinspected. Major Lawsuits incoming.
Ya, but who among us hasn't cut some corners when traveling to the bottom of the ocean?
@@blackpanda7612reinspected? Pffft. How 'fuddy-duddy stuck in the 1950s' is that!
@@johnjones3813 Zing! Seriously however, I've been on surface vessels and am simply appalled by the lack of care and prep that far too many (even boat owners) exercise. My worst story is being tricked out into a hurricane by 2 Clowns (we were "just checking the boat, not going anywhere"). The boat was a wooden 40' sailboat and it had a diesel that would stall and not restart for a reason not yet found....
Hard to believe titanic still claiming lives...
It turns out that NASA, Boeing and University of Washington denied any involvement with the design, testing or manufacturing of the Titan.
well boeing wouldn't worth anything anyway here
@@ser_igel The engineers are still good. The management is shit.
They won't be able to save them, It's incredibly sad. The pressure at those depths makes it impossible.
Being rich doesn’t mean you’re smart …don’t follow idiots into an abyss 😑
Irony , a ship goes down to the bottom of the ocean to visit a ship that went down to the bottom of the ocean .
It actually usually means the opposite plus there’s a lot more ego involved.
NEXT GONNA BE THE MUSK MARS EXPEDITION ... SCIENCE & TECH IS ALL GOOD AND FINE BUT I THINK WE ARE ALREADY TESTING THE WATERS TOO MUCH .. NO PUN INTENDED !
Or into space, or transhuman brain implants or off a cliff. Just keep yer distance and learn.
unless you are rich in Iran or Russia or China where their Coast Guard would be more equipped to rescue you easily and not full of Transgenders and Lesbians and Gays.
This gives me an ominous feeling. My daughter was a deep sea diver, there is so much that can go wrong on a dive going down 130 ft. This small vessel descending up to 13,000 ft is completely inconceivable. My prayers are with the crew and their families.
Hope your daughter aware about shark
@@lionsofwar6851lol I’m sure she’s considered that
Just seeing the way that initial graphic unfolded was unnerving.
Since there isn't any evidence at all that any form of deity exists, those prayers are not going to do much. The only thing that will help is finding that submersible. If they are tangled to something, hopefully they can get untangled again and return to the surface.
Let me know how the prayers work
How ironic the one component he boasted was the most safe, the hull, was the one that failed.
We can only hope the crew is safe and its technical problem... that being said. If a family member my heart goes out to you.
The Alvin was built in 1964 and used all the “old fashioned ways” It’s constantly maintained and upgraded and is still going strong to this day. Proof that doing things within the boundaries of the physics of the problem works.
I want the sub along with the people aboard to be found and safely brought back. The horror they must be suffering is incomprehensible. That said (and sincerely felt) I’m pretty aggravated that yet again a private enterprise chooses to promote a ‘private’ adventure until disaster strikes and public institutions have to bale them out while rescuer’s themselves are put in harms way. Four nations now involved in the rescue effort, countless numbers of professionals and a ton of money being spent primarily because the private corporation involved hadn’t prepared for a disaster contingency.
Well said, I agree smh.
well said
Exactly.
These people are unfortunately gone. They lost communication an hour after going out
Highly, highly doubtful
It most likely had a catastrophic hull failure. Everyone would have been killed instantly. At that depth you don't get a leak like on a boat at the surface. Down at the sea bottom the pressure would be about 400 times greater than at the surface. Water coming in at that pressure would would be around 6000 psi. That is two or three times greater than a pressure washer and would cut right through flesh. I hope I am wrong but the sudden loss of communication is worrisome. Even with a loss of power it should be able to drop ballast and return to the surface. If they don't find it at the surface it was probably crushed and is at the bottom.
I was shocked to learn it was made from carbon fiber. Not the material I would trust at that kind of pressure. It seems totally irresponsible to take passengers on such a craft. There should be some kind of regulatory standard.
There probably will be a standard after this. Instant death better than suffocating slowly in the dark depths.
@@onikin Absolutely agree with you about instant death being preferable to a slow death.
Its mind blowing to know the Titanic sits at a depth that is higher than the height where Skydivers jump from.
Search "Felix Baumgartner".
@@NefariousEnough Lol I know about Felix ( i watched that jump LIVE). I was talking about commercial skydiving. Not jumping from the edge of space, funded by big corporations in the name of research.
mind blowing to think people really think the Titanic was real in 2023.
@@Iloveyoubabys😂😂😂
@@NefariousEnough Actually, Alan Eustace, a senior vice president for Google, broke Felix' record just 2 years later.
However, Alan's jump was not promoted worldwide as a unique sensation (which it really wasn't) by a company selling disgusting sugar-water.
It looks so sketchy. That thing looked like a death trap.
Yes, they walked into their death.
Its a carbon fiber death trap. a 3rd party company inspected the carbon fiber hull and found defects. OceanGate supposedly 'fixed' these defects but didn't get the hull reinspected. Major lawsuits incoming.
Ya think?
@@blackpanda7612the CEO left a big mess for his business partners and family to clean up. They'll all be ruined.
Yes, looked like a death trap, and they still didn’t care. Just show me the money!
This interview is one of the most knowledgeable videos I've seen on this subject.
This is a great interview!!!
Now I can understand the possibilities and the three scenarios he describes makes total sense. Praying for the best and all their families.
@hawaiiopihi...it was indeed a great interview. My thoughts and prayers to those missing, their families and to the search, rescue and recovery teams working to find them 🙏
Sad hoping for best !
3:53 😊
Not really. Pogue seems to have his information wrong.
Imagine going 10,000 ft underwater to view the titanic wreckage and the people's last resting place. Only to encounter trouble in the submarine, sinking and joining those Titanic victims for the eternal sleep. My god!
Praying for that miracle right now. I can’t imagine what they’re going through, especially the young man on board with his dad.
Prayers don't work and Miracles aren't real. Not one miracle has ever been recorded in the history of the world. Your God is weak.
Your God is cruel.
Your God is Narcissistic.
Your God can't stop women and children from being raped.
Your God can't stop wars in his name.
Your God admits there are other Gods in his 1st Commandment.
Your God can't stop hunger.
Your God cant stop cancer.
Your God can't stop murder.
Your God can't stop aborting thousands of babies every day.
Your God can't show his face.
Your God can't.
Or maybe he won't.
Or maybe he doesn't know.
Regardless of why your God can't, won't or doesn't know, he has done nothing about these things.
And since he is so weak, why do you worship him as a God?
Your God is not real, and you are weak for believing in a Middle Eastern Myth.
Are you really praying - or is this just a phrase?
And how long did you pray? A 2-second prayer like "Dear God, let them be saved. Amen!"
(Not that it makes any difference. Prayer has never saved anybody. I'm just curious about your commitment.)
@@bobmusil1458 shut the hell up. Not the right time for this
@@bobmusil1458 Applying logic and reason to these "praying for..." comments lol 🤣
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I'm sorry to be that guy but, my condolences to the loved ones of the passengers on board. Hopefully they can at least recover these 4 lost passengers. 🙏🏼 😞
Remember when you say sorry there are three parts to an apology... You are not sorry
There will not be bodies to recover.... Impossible
Unfortunately nobody will be recovered. There is no way to recover the bodies especially if it imploded.
@DerrickDBurns So the transfer of individuals from and vessel to vessel is definitely out of the question however, to recover the vessel as a whole and bring to the surface certainly is possible, given they've got an ROV that can go that deep with a rotating manipulator os sorts...
GREAT interview with this knowledgeable man.
Yeah He's Real Smart He Signed On & Boarded This Water Heater Last Year Genius. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like turtles
@kingstop5495 he didn't say he went to go visit the Titanic, you nimrod
This reporter is already using past tense when referring to the owner. RIP
Reminds me of Jeff Goldblum’s warnings in Jurassic Park.
This the only person I've seen, who kept it real. Even in the highly unlikely event the do find it, how the hell are they supposed to save anybody? You basically can't. Not in the time-frame they have left.
I have a bad feeling. Catastrophic decompression is most likely what happened. It just takes a small leak in a craft of that size.
What a terrible death!
There are a Rolling Stone report saying they caught banging sounds (like an SOS signal from the crew) for 30 minutes intervals
@@TheDivayentaNah, the guy who got removed from the Byford Dolphin went from a full size human to easily sealable in a can of tuna fish in less time than he could have pondered if he left his oven on. Catastrophic decompression will happen faster than your brain can process what even happened.
@@TheDivayenta Terrible death but its damn near instant so there would be very little suffering.
They’re alive
I'm not sure I'd bet my life on someone thinking the guys who did things before were old fuddy duddies. Long time engineering wisdom is usually built on the back of failure and loss of life, and I wouldn't bet against it with my life, that's for sure.
Reporter covers his eyes and says “come on!” when the CEO shows him the game controller. People shouldn’t bet their lives on something that elicits this type of response.
What’s wrong with the controller! It’s probably the most reliable and tested part of the sub. They’ve had billions of hours of use. It’s the new technology, like the carbon fiber hull that’s never been used before that I would worry about.
@@Redspeciality 😺 My Fitbits give me fits trying to get them to pair. I image them at crush depths having similar problems.
Actually the military uses game controllers often. Mind you, they're usually wired and are connected to a larger dashboard.
Morals of the story:
1. Respect the dead
2. Safety first
3. Respect money
Edit:
I hope they are saved...or that they went fast. Thats scary.
I agree.
When you fail to plan for an emergency, you plan to fail at getting rescued.
David should count his Blessings 🙏
Unbelievable that a game controller is used to control the NOT APPROVED DEEP OCEAN SUBMERSIBLE.
There are oversights for every other people moving machine…boats, airplanes and automobiles must meet certain safety criteria. It’s crazy that this company was out there offering this incredibly dangerous ride in a can miles down to the ocean floor and they were allowed to. Crazy. Look at the cost of trying to find these people and this company had zero contingencies in case of a catastrophic event. But the real cost is of course to human life. Praying for a miracle.
@@user-ef2bx9fb4y but those safety standards set out ensure the most likely chance of survival possible, this from a former flight attendant that was put through incredible safety training, that most people couldn’t even believe. And certainly take for granted, as they fly wherever.
On such mission, it should be be mandatory one more unmanned submersible which can be controlled from sea bed should follow the master submersible. Is there such technoligy available?
Yes. Unmanned submersibles have been around a long time.
Doesn't matter if you're in the business of cutting corners, though.
Their ego of wanting to see the ship, has turned into innocent people out searching risking their lives looking for them. So sad.
Don't live life in fear. Everyday is a gift.
My heart is shrinking just to think what these five men are going thru as in right now. Let's pray for a miracle!🙏
Sad. How it must feel to have all that money, as it becomes terrifyingly meaningless. This Sub Company is liable. No matter what they claim, it wasn't enough.
Most likely a submersible implosion in which case they would die immediately.
@@Johnnyb418 That would be better than watching your air empty....merciful.
@@sprootown yes I agree. They likely were dead before they even realized what happened.
Sadly, if you signed that waiver knowing the details.... my empathy for you is very limited... respect the dead. Respect the ocean.
What I don't hear mentioned is this: As people begin to panic, they will consume more oxygen. They likely have little time left.
Or if one of them had a heart attack after realizing the grim situation and then the decomposing body's gasses added to...
Even if they locate them, it is going to take more than 31 hours to bring them up I'm afraid. 😕
What was the last message received from the submersible? What is its normal rate of descent? What was the expected time for the sub to descend to the bottom? Apparently from the reporting, it was only about 90 minutes from when they left the surface to when contact was reported lost. Could it have reached the bottom in that time? To get from the surface to 13000’ depth in 90 minutes would require an average of 2.4 ft per second rate of descent.
I think I heard that it takes 2 hours to get to the bottom.
This is giving me anxiety I cannot imagine what they must be going through. I could only watch the first three minutes.
Situations like that make people turn on each other I can't imagine the horror those people going through if they're still alive to begin with🤔
Excellent reporting. Thank you for this.
This is what happens when you live your entire life in a rich bubble ... until the bubble takes you to the deepest parts of the ocean. A true Ocean-Gate.
Good interview. I've watched over a dozen clips about this and this is the best.
This was not exploration. This was going to look at a watery grave. Leave the Titanic to rest in peace.
That being said, I’d focus my search on the surface due to the time/logistical constraints, the fail safe surfacing measures, and based on the fact that if the submersible was located deep under water, there is no way to surface the submersible within the next 26 hours. I’m putting my bets on the rudimentary surfacing countermeasures. Unless it imploded or got caught on something, that sub is surfacing.
yeah, definitely. the only way to save those people is finding them on the surface. There is no possible save beneath the sea. Worst news is they cannot open the door from inside. Even if it is on the surface they are running out of breath
Welp... I've got some bad news..
I wish them to come back safe. I imagine the horrors they are being through. My heart goes out to the families. I am claustrophobic I couldn't even be there. Oh my God 😭.
Unfortunatly, i dont think they will make it in time. My thoughts go out to the Families.
I think there was an explosion
@@terryvarta9306that would explain its disappearance.
@@TheDivayentathey’re still alive
@@rylans.5365if they're still alive and are aware that their chances of being rescued before their oxygen runs out are almost nil at this point, I'm wondering how that father feels right now that he took his son with him. I know how I would feel.
Latest report is that they heard banging noises every 30 minutes.
It looks like a water heater ...I wouldn't even get on that thing if it was in a back yard pool
having been a commercial fisherman for 30 years i wonder why the standard required safety gear most vessels are required to have don't appear to be on this for hire vessel. every vessel that is commecial or professional are required to have eperbs . they are emergency beacons that give location of the vessel in distress. they are battery operated so a power outage would not effect it. i do hope in the future these vessels are required to have signaling devices. with all the resources that are being used to locate this sub, i also hope the company that owns the sub and the service for tourist to go in the sub are made to reimburse the costs for this rescue is costing. even though the coast guard and other government services are free for the most part, a high dollar sub ride in extremely dangerous attempts such as this is not in what i would consider a normal civilian tourist attraction on the water.
It's likely the company will go bankrupt. Who knows how much money they'll have to pay anyone. The CEO is on the craft, so he probably isn't paying.
EPIRB is using a satellite-based system (COSPAS/SARSAT) - it doesn't work underwater. For underwater location/tracking , hydro-acoustic systems/equipment are used.
Good, honest interview with Pogue. Happy to have some straightforward conversation.
Putting one's own life, as a designer, at risk is a personal choice; but putting others at risk without some sort of certification, or acceptance, by other authorities is wrong in my opinion. Unless they're floating on the surface somewhere they don't realistically stand a chance.
Ya, but that video game controller looked so cutting edge, I'm sure they thought of everything.
Even if they make it to surface they can't get any air unless someone finds them first since they're bolted in from the outside
Game controller runs out of batteries..re-surface for a recharge.
Them being stuck on the surface is the absolute best case scenario for the crew, but even then they still run the risk of running out of oxygen. What I don't understand is why they had to use a lock mechanism that only worked from the outside.
@@WKRP187 I heard that last night on the news. Tbh, that would be my worst nightmare. I guess that's probably the only way to stop the door imploding from the pressure but you'd think there would be some way of getting oxygen in from the outside should they be floating on the surface.
I am not being negative here; realistic.
From what has been detailed, the ocean currents at 13,000 feet in depth, are very strong. They are so strong it has pushed and forced a submarine just like this one, in to the propeller of the Titantic where it got stuck temporarily.
From what has been detailed, we learned the ocean visibility at 13,000 feet is O. It's pitch black. The submarine has a special lense that penetrates the dark spectrum of color and produces light however it's wave length is very narrow for visibility.
What that means is, even if they can get a navy submarine down to 13,000 feet within the next 14-20 hours, it is unlikely they will spot the submarine especially if the ocean floor is throwing up particles and debris from the pure mass of pressure down there.
People need to really be sensible about this they pretty much aren’t surviving this they’d be lucky if they find the bodies period & maybe this will probably bring to light some issues with companies doing this sort of thing and treating it like a carnival ride.
Can they get air if it IS floating? Or do they suffocate while bobbing around?
The arrogance and recklessness of Stockton Rush. No safety standards. Imagine if they had installed a beacon in case of emergency rescue.
Why on earth would you do this just to see the Titanic, actually risking your life ? I don’t get it but praying all will be well
David Pogoue is the OG always in awe, way to cordial with the CEO tech reporter.
Now they are all like that.
Praying for a miracle 🙏🏻
Absolutely amazing how everybody in the TH-cam comments section is now an expert on deep submergence rescue techniques!!!
Well yeah!
RIP to the occupants of the Titan submersible
They’re still alive
@@rylans.5365 extremely doubtful, unfortunately
😞
If they're still underwater, they're as good as dead. If they've surfaced and simply have a comms issue, then they still have a chance if the Coast Guard can find them in time.
@@hankheel9944 latest report is that they heard banging noises every 30 minutes
D Pogue, thanks for this important interview!
This is the most excellent report.
Most likely hull failure after 10 dives, stress fatigue. So now we sort of know what the life span of such a sub is. The hard way. He used carbon fiber because you cant make a full Titanium or high strength steel tube in a garage shop.
GODBLESS them and the entire world 🌎 🙏
Sadly, I think the hull is as breached. At the level they were at it would have instantaneous death. 😕😕😕
should have spent that 250k on charity and they'd be alive and more fulfilled. rip
The company put everyone's life at risk by not having a rescue plan. RIP to all aboard. Especially the young man who really didn't have enough life experience to understand the risks. 😢
They have no choice to rest in peace they're dead
Yep no rescue emergency plan utterly crazy
how do you not have enough life experience to understand death? What a backwards statement and this is. And this news story isnt real.
@@travels129 yeah too bad they dont have a competent National Guard like China Russia or Iran right?
He’s 19 lmfao 🤣 accountability only starts at age 21 or what? If you are old enough to be tried for murder, you are old enough to be accountable for your decisions. He’s 19. By his age I had already been in prison twice. Once you are 18, you have to own your decisions and take accountability or you will forever be an adult with no accountability. He’s not 14, he’s a legal adult who happens to also be a millionaire lol. He could have said “nah fuck that” but he chose to get on. A tragedy yes, but to say he’s not old enough to be responsible for his own decisions is ludicrous
Please outlaw this reckless type of tourist attraction . No matter how much you can afford to pay for it .
Nah Space tourism is just as dangerous and people do that all the time.
We need commen sense submarine control in this country.
@@PhilM4ell, maybe after a rocket with 50 people on board gets stranded on a planet, then all of us down here can only watch on TV while their air runs out . They should do hundreds of un manned trips with CCTV. Before the rest of us have to watch the heartbreaking scenes until they perish. These aren't Apps on an iPhone, these are people's lives .
@@Jamski101 what we are lacking is just Common Sense
Wow, I hope they find them.
David Pogue!
The best Mac writer ever.
It’s been a while since I saw that name on magazines.
Maybe they’re on the surface somewhere
That's a scary thought. Suffocating on the surface =X you know they are stuck in until let out?
On an uncharted desert island with Gilligan .
These people knew the very real risks before they embarked on this journey. Sadly the worst scenario has happened. So sad for their families...
Most people don't really take the risk written in the waiver seriously, especially since the submersible had done previous dive to the Titanic successfully before.
I went to the company website and read the site's description of the submersible used for this trip. The site really makes it seem like the submersible has every safety precautions possible built in. I'm sure any potential tourists would feel all warm and fuzzy after reading the company's website.
Seems like the safest idea would have been to only go with two subs. The second one could be unmanned.
Or just send a unmanned one down and watch from a tv on the ship?? They act like they have tons of windows on this sub..
The critics don't sound too crazy now....
The inventor turns his penetrating mind to redundant systems to get it to the surface yet if it is there no one can find it. I prostrate myself before his technical genius.
I’m thinking of the ending of Finding Nemo right now. Now what? 🐡 😂
There is no hope to save their lives,condolence to the victims.
Banging has been heard in the last 12 hours.
@@USS-SNAKE-ISLANDreally 😳👀👀 I must look this up
I feel like the company must've made sure Mr. Pogue doesn't badmouth them too much because to me, this interview seemed to paint a very naively positive look on the company and Mr. Rush.
Mr. Rush was a reckless POS who had an ego the size of the real Titanic. He actively chose to ignore all concerns coming from experts in the field, organizations, peers... He basically built a trap and had the nerve to offer it as a tourist attraction. I understand wanting to innovate. Innovation happens everywhere all the time. Innovation is still subject to rigorous testing. That's how innovation happens. If you don't test innovation, what happens is that if it fails, it was never innovation in the first place.
A 19 y/o man is NOT a baby. Get real.
France Is Sending One Of Thier Submersibles Right Now To Look.
dfghdhdaf love hits sdfsad funny. This is fake news making American National Guard look retarded. Of course they can find anything. This isnt real.
Couldn't it be possible that the banging is morse code? Or maybe a certain number of the bangs in repetition could mean something about how much air they have left, or how far down they are? Maybe coordinates of some kind.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@blackpanda7612 I don't know how you think that's funny
My father is aretired Navy captain and a scuba instructor. He said that that is what they are taught during a submarine maritime emergency.
@@goldengoose97 good point. I'm sure the searchers are thinking along the same lines.
@@goldengoose97you’re right, pay no attention to the cackling hyenas among us
Title should say David's name and not as some Reporter... He is a national treasure
No secure failsafes in place to bring it up in an emergency. No manual controls or gauges. No backups at all. How did it pass any inspections?
I see alot of criticism on the people on board which is absurd but regardless a man had to likely die with his son in the most horrific way i cant imagine. My heart is heavy. 💛🧘♀️
I cannot believe this is happening. Just unbelievable 😢
This is the challenger disaster of underwater exploration. It's going to completely revamp safety standards and add regulations in that industry, and lessons are going to be learned about cutting corners for the sake of commercial timelines / business
why you cry? it's billionaires down there who knew what they were doing. Feel sorry for the Syrian people bombed with chemical weapons or the Ukrainian children that were forcibly removed from their families by Russians, but pity for this is pathetic and ridiculous
Did you notice what I noticed? The offhand dismissal of contingencies plans because supposedly you can't do anything? Did the customers know in most cases you can't do anything? Did they know that only very specific machinery can receive the submersible like mated interface meaning an exact match of equipment is needed. What certification did they get? Is Carbon Fiber typical? Is it legal? Will it withstand pressure and not crack? Zero information on these items.
No they didn't address the fire threat properly either. In a sealed compartment with supplied oxygen they wouldn't use a camper light for illumination. It would be a sealed explosion proof light so if it was in an oxygen rich environment it wouldn't cause a fire in the case of an exposed spark at an electrical connection. That submersible was built with every corner cut even down to intentionally not hiring experienced crew because they didn't want to hire "an ex-military 50 something year old white guy." I guess they wanted to save some money by paying less for an experienced 25 year old who could install camper lights and video game controllers rather than the proper purpose built equipment.
That company needs to file for bankruptcy now .Major lawsuits coming
Yup. OceanGate is fucked. They're going to find the CEO was negligent and arrogant in his views of deep sea diving. The moment you whip out an Xbox controller to steer any hi tech vehicle is when I'm getting the feck outta there. Should be a huge red flag to any sane human being.
The owner is in the thing. How do you sue a guy 2 miles under the North Atlantic? Everyone who paid to go down signed a lengthy contract specifying that death is a possibility. They all knew the risks. Except, maybe, the 19 year old. That's a heartbreaker.
I predict very soon they will make new regulations for submarines that carry tourists to places like shipwrecks. I also predict major lawsuits.
yes could be that there are certain regulations in the future. But I think for being valid in international waters you will have to sign a lot of states....
Lawsuits why? The accused is under the victims and billionaires do have enough money to inform themselves before going down. They for sure signed some papers... and even had been declared sth like expedition specialists. Not tourists.
Furthermore the sub already went down a few times and came back. So IMO bad luck, they do not even get the money back
@@christophpaessler8444 Their families will say they were tricked into thinking they were safe. They don't need the money. The lawsuit will be just for revenge I guess.
They signed a stack of waivers saying they were warned of the risk and potential dangers and even death and they still signed on so I doubt if any lawsuits would stick
David is a legend.
How is it they were allowed to take paying customers in a vessel that wasn’t certified? My kayak has a hull plate and is certified 🤷🏻♀️
I remember seeing this story several months ago, and I thinking to myself, "There's no way in the world that I am paying a quarter of a million to sit criss-cross applesauce for however long it takes to get down there and back up. Much less with some of the items used to control it and from where those items were bought."
quarter of a million is quarter of a million to you. It's 5 bucks to billionaire. Billionaire wants to do more then sit in a sofa every evening. Billionaire is having a life.
@@badbeatslayer A shorter one, in this case.
@@badbeatslayer Don't risk it for that quarter million biscuit.
I was nonplussed by the reporter's experience with three trips in this sub, where the first two required them to emergency scrub the mission. I can count on one hand the amount of privately owned subs to ferry people deep undersea with, and on zero hands the amount of them Id feel okay going on. Submarines are widely used by nations, backed by decades of practice/research/learning by failure and bankrolled by national budgets because what they do is inherently unsafe and possibly tops on everyones list of "worst ways to die."
I'd be ok on the Deepsea Challenger.
Not sure about worst way to die. An implosion would be extremely quick and relatively painless at that depth. Slowly losing oxygen would suck, but passing out slowly better than burning to death.
Honestly, billionaires complained about pandemic relief that saved children from starving, I don't care that they keep finding stupid ways to die and our taxes pay for the rescues. Let them save themselves since that's their attitude with us.
The arguments of this guy is clear that there's no way to save them if they're still down there!
So brave of the CEO to be the test pilot who dies to prove to the rest of us that it is a bad idea.
Breaking: They are haring banging sounds, every 30 minutes... Source: Rolling Stones and CNN
They are dead bro. 99% likely to rapid decompression or an implosion. This is now a retrieval misson.