Some Canadians dumped by family doctors after walk-in visits
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Dozens of Ontario residents say they were de-enrolled by their family doctor after they accessed a walk-in clinic.
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So we can’t go to a walk in ? Stupid . That’s what walk ins are for
I suspect some racket around walk in clinics lol need to know why they came about and under which admin etc
At this point I don't even understand the point of having a family doctor. Booking an appointment to my family doctor takes 3-6 weeks. What sort of illness can you preemptively book 3-6 weeks in advance or wait 3-6 weeks before receiving treatment? It's such a worthless system.
What a truly broken system. I've been on a waiting list for a family doctor for over 5 years now.
Anyone else get the letter every couple months
Im blessed to have had the same kind doctor for the last 15 years a few blocks away from my home in Alberta. Going to miss him when I move this fall to Quebec 😢
Are you a new Canadian?
It took me 6 years to find a new dr when my dr of over 25 years retired.
Yup 7 Plus years.
One of the stupidest policies I've ever heard. We all need to ask our MPP's to get rid of this nonsensical policy.
This is another reason why the ER rooms are over loaded ! No one should have to go to ER for a sore throat !
At the same time .. how bad is that sore throat you can’t wait the next day.? But this is Canada… so you probably won’t get an appointment till next week. Hmm tough one lol
In BC it’s a month wait time before you’ll get in to see your family Doc.
The influx of all these new immigrants doesn’t help! And it’s always been an issue.
So true....my mother's friend went to her doctor because she'd fallen and needed 2 little stitches. Her family doctor saw her and sent her to ER, where she had to wait 8 hours to get the stitches.
So OHIP got billed twice--once for the family doctor and for the doctor in ER. I don't understand why the family doctor couldn't do anything other than a referral to ER. Might as well close up family medical offices and have those doctors work in hospitals.
@@janetpaul7357 Exactly that. I called mine for a prescription refill and they told me to use an online doctor because they couldn't get me an appointment in time before I would run out.
Canadian health system has become a joke..
Thanks ford for its current condition.
I fail to see the humor in elitist doctors prioritizing money over actual healthcare. But I am on the spectrum, so I could have missed the super funny joke part of it all.
Have a super nice day!
@@kurtmaryville4941 well ultimately it's what the con party wants.
a LOOOOOONG time ago
A big one at that
My kid went to the ER with a severe throat infection (after an 8 hr wait). They medicated & streeted him. He wasn't getting better. We called our family doctor & it was going to be a 3 week wait to get follow up care (& a two hour drive). Ridiculous!
if i had an infection of any kind i would not wait more then a day or two to see my family doctor if not..then i would go to the walk in .
But its free, remember, its FREE.
Well, this is petty.
once one of the worlds best health care systems is now an absolute joke. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!!! Most Canadians don't even have a regular family doctor we are all on waiting lists for years now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is absolutely ridiculous.
You can tell something is somehow subverting the entire nation, apparently antibiotics are unprescrib-able from a distance or with basic medical history. Probably the abels desperate last stand, which makes no sense because they are bots
I don't consider our health care is free. We've been paying it through our tax dollars, plus on top of that, we're also paying $800 health premium when filing your tax, regardless you use the service.
Why should doctors receive a lump sum from the government for each of their patient even they don't see them? I would suggest that the government should reimburse the patient after each visit, and the doctor could only receive payment directly from their patients after each service/treatment. Therefore, no service, no pay. This way, patients could have choice to see any doctor they want. It's like the system in France. Patients pay the doctor, and the patients will get reimbursed directly from the government.
By paying a lump sum, it allows for longer appointments to manage more than one issue, prescription refills without an appointment and so on - in short, caring for patients in a flexible way. Some family docs are completely fee-for-service, but will - by necessity - have to limit the number of problems/visit to one or two, and have patients book appointments for everything. Remember that, apart from a small number of salaried physicians, doctors have to pay rent, staff, supplies, utilities, etc, as well as fund their own retirement (they have no paid benefits of any kind). The fees paid them by OHIP have gone up by about 9 % in the last 10 years while costs have increased approximately 20-25%.
@@donnahenrikson1320 Too much theory, too little practice.
Not a problem. Doug Ford is focussing on paper bags and McMansions.
Imho… time to check paper bag stock market prices and question which politicians have them in their portfolio. Do we know who went into the medical equipment (masks) stock market phase. 🙄
Premier Ford needs to address this issue. It's ridiculous! And healthcare delayed is healthcare denied!
He's not to fix anything. He caused this in case you don't know by underfunding public healthcare
He is, it's called private health care.
The government needs to end the practice of paying doctors whether or not they need care every year. It just means that healthier patients get a family doctor, and the ones that need a family doctor the most get dropped or screened out.
The government also should not allow newcomers to get a family doctor when citizens do not have one. Once every citizen is enrolled with a family doctor, THEN newcomers on a list can be considered. Crazy to pay taxes for decades and be without a family doctor.
when it takes 3 weeks to get into see your doctor... you have to go elsewhere.
Three weeks ! Try three months.
Strep throat can’t wait! My brother ended up in the ICU for a week with it. he almost died because his throat started closing on him. Sometimes you just have to do the right thing for your family and don’t listen to a wacko whose only care is their wallet!
Wacko for sure
Canadian health care system is screwed up big time. My family doctor also dumped me not seeing him for a while.
Why are doctors being informed of the name of the patient who decides to visit another provider for whatever reason?
Thats like 'outing' the patient & cause of friction.
You sign a release with your family doctor when you sign up so your records can be sent to them when you visit other doctors such as specialists and referrals. Otherwise your records would be a mess.
@@barcelonachair6487 In Quebec we now have online access to our files and WOW is it cool!! I can read all my test results, blood work, see my scans, historical visits, which doctors, clinics, diagnosis, medications, there are even warnings if a certain reading is above or below normal. I feel like I'm half robot now and that file is my data center.
This really is a horrible policy. Change it please !
I am glad she found a new family doctor.
How was she able to so quickly?
I have been waiting on a list for 3 years now. Still can’t get a family doctor. How did it happen in Ontario?
The situation is still the same with a new family doctor. The rules haven't changed.
Well, she’s fortunate she found another doctor for her family. When we moved t9 Timmins in 2016, we’ve been waiting for a doctor. The last time Health Canada touched base, to assure me that they were still looking…she laughed on the phone. It’s unlikely that I will ever have a family doctor in my lifetime. That’s what happens when you want to live in the North. It means no medical help.
Just look at the docs now....they are in to please their parents!!!!! Horrible care!!! System is FANTASTIC as long as u don't need it. Wait until u are 75 like me!!!!
This just started in 2020 gotta love the force for private clinics
No it's been going on before 2020, it happened to me way before then, I think Drs are starting to speak up now.
We live in a free country,why we are always told what to to do,ridiculous
There should be no surprise that the healthcare system is broken. I understand choosing a walk-in depending upon your concerns and wait time for your family doctor. There should be no repercussions whatsoever.
Outrageous. Where is the “do no harm” and where is the concern for the patient. It is now just about the money and push the patient to the curb.
Psychiatrists always do harm.
That maxim is a joke.
System needs to be completely restructured.
Imitate a system that has been built since we did it in 1966.
They have studied the shortcomings here, and in Britain etc. and reacted accordingly.
Long overdue.
The family physician in this case was callous. So sad that this is what our healthcare system has become.
What a stupid system and doctors’ (lack of) integrity comes out. If they don’t want patience going to a walk-in then make room for a quick visit.
Most collaborative health teams will work to squeeze you in for cases like her son's. They leave wiggle room because stuff like this comes up a lot. And it is why you can wait for up to an hour to be seen when you have a regular appointment. The failing was on this doctor's part.
A medical emergency is when you are in terrible pain and or might die. You shouldnt need to go to the emergency room for drugs
Omg I don’t even have a doctor mine retired now waiting list is so long to get to see one
That was not about money.
That was about ego.
Never...NEVER underestimate the ego of most doctors.
I am pleased this woman found another doctor.
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Going to ER, for a sore throat is wrong.
Going anywhere for a soar throat is wrong. Sit your ass at home until you get better.
a canadian girl i knew had problems with her knee. this was in ontario. she went to the doctor for 3 years and they never took care of the problem. her husband had a job where he had health care in michigan. she went to petoskey and within a month had a operation that took care of the problem.
Yup. In America you get what you pay for
@@rally_chronicles his insurer paid it after a deductible.
She should consider herself lucky to have found another doctor….here is Nova Scotia we are so short of doctors here that I will probably never get a family doctor.
Same happened to me; the closest appointment with family doctor was 3 weeks when I started going to walk in, he dropped me.....
Ridiculous i do the same thing because family doctor not available for a week sometimes 2. What are you supposed to do wait in pain.
Disgraceful! Shame on these doctors..
they have no shame. they want more and more money.
And so while everyone else waits years to find a family doctor, this woman just switched doctors on a whim. How the F does that happen?
It depends on where you live. In Toronto there are plenty
Fortunate she found a new doctor, considering the current shortage.
Same thing happened to me. Its truly disgusting.
Greedy Doctors!
Yes
In New Brunswick, doctors tell you or leave a message on their phone that if you need immediate assistance, go to the hospital emergency room. Doctors in Ontario are a joke, most of them are working in walk in clinics now anyway.
Ridiculous...our system is broken...and we are not getting value for our money
I had the same experience.
Yup! My family wanted to drop me too bc I had to go to a walk-in. To get around this, go to urgent care, they apparently don't bill your doctor.
I have been sounding the alarm for years! This is absolutely Disgusting!! Canada the Great?!...
I recently thought I had step throat, came back clean. They shouldn’t hand out antibiotics without testing with a swab. Turns out, a bad “cold” also resembles strep.
End single payer healthcare, I'll pay for my own care, with the 30% of my paycheck this useless system costs me.
The same thing happened to me, i was lamb blasted by my Dr for that exact same thing.
This happens more than you think, they tell their patients ER or wait for them.
This is an example of privatizing health care.
You should not PAY to see a doctor. Period.
The system needs to be fixed.
This happened to a friend where she got de-enrolled.
She has serious health issues, and needed to go to the walk-in.
The doctor got billed. So de-enrolled her.
She now has to PAY to see her family doctor.
I wish they investigated more. HOW much is the doctor billed?
WHY is it set up this way?
WHAT systems are better?
(WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY? type questions are from grade one)
My doctor is great. But it's impossible to get an appointment when you are really sick.
I'm told to call back at open the next day and maybe they can see me. If I am lucky. It is not likely.
Then they threaten to drop you if you seek medical help elsewhere.
My mâle doctor of 10 years did not want to treat me anymore because i didnt go to him for my Pap smear tests every year but went to a female doctor!!! I was shocked that this happens in Canada???
When you cant get an appointment with your GP for weeks what are you supposed to do
Just another delightful feature of our "world class" rationed health care system.
Our Canadian health system is so broken!
Terrible situation - but as an aside, shouldn’t this mom be very concerned about why her son keeps getting strep??
Must be nice to be able to get a new doctor. I can't find A doctor
Are there an excess of Dr's there? There are so many peopel (many with a real need) that do not have a primary care physician and can't get on. How is it that she just got another Dr.?
Wow never knew this was a thing
Criminal it is !
I've never bothered trying to get one, and I haven't been to the ER in probably 8 years or so. An ounce of prevention might be worth a pound of cure, but if a 30 year old drops dead, you can just bring in a new one. Just like the doctors.
Since when do doctors have the right to make a decision for a parent?
I'm speechless 😳. The whole concept of universal health care is right, the way it is put in placed and administrated is soooo wrong. 😠
I was very ill and my doctor was telling me to go see another doctor because he was not available, so I had to go to hospital due to his unavailability. It has been awful since then.
My family doctor made this clear when I signed up.
This shouldn't be a surprise. They send you a whole information sheet about what to do, who to call, where to go for different situations.
Yea this has happened to me several times
I did not know this????
If a doctor does this they need to lose their license and never be allowed to practice ever again.
Do i not pay taxes to have access to these clinics??
All in all , Canadian health care system is a horror .
but its FREE.
@@brianjones7660
No , it is not free . Nothing is free . But they don't teach you that in the school . Taxpayers pay for everything including healthcare .
Some guy in TX named a sloppy heart attack prompted maple donut with bacon as “ Canadian health care”. Well, can’t argue with that now.
I’m in BC Canada. I’ve had to go to a walk in (I have respiratory issues.) even though I have a family doctor. Often it is a two week wait…by then whatever you have, will have become worse or way worse. I try to see my doctor when I can, but the reason why I would want a family doctor even if I have to suddenly go to a walk-in is because I can say…”Yes…I have a family doctor.” and it kind of puts the walk-in doctor on notice that there is someone monitoring my health. My brother-in-law has no family doctor, wound up in emergency and the doctor assigned played some games with the discharge papers, not really telling my BIL much and wanting to hand them over to the family doctor which he does not have… My doctor offered to see my BIL in May ‘24, to become his doctor…but my BIL has not made the effort (Too far apparently…but my doctor will do phone and online visits also.).
boot out Trudeau! He has to make healthcare top priority!!
All Trudeau can do is supply taxpayer money. Our healthcare system is administrated by each province.
Do any of you realize how many services you are not allowed if you don't have a family doctor? Mental Health referrals for one. Try to get referred for those if you don't have a family doctor. It's not happening. I know this from personal experience.
I am absolutely shocked..tell me is this Canada.. ? Wait I must be dreaming never mind,,,,,,
"Canadian healthcare" is an oxymoron.
Let pharmacists give emergency dose until they can see their doctor.
I've never bothered trying to get one, and I haven't been to the ER in probably 8 years or so. An ounce of prevention might be worth a pound of cure, but if a 30 year old drops dead uou can
My old family doctor, was great at referring me to other doctors instead of him, ANY doctor instead of him.
This happened to me, but I was never “DUMPED” by my family doctor, when I had an emergency and visited Urgent Care.
All doctors are irresponsible
Hi from Sydney Australia. This is outrageous and thoroughly disgusting. It’s heartless. Did that doctor enter the Profession to take care of patients? Or to take care of that doctor’s bottom line?…… ⚛️☮️🌏
Seen within 15 minutes?!? That's unheard of in Quebec
Pathetic 😡😭
Watching this from SK, wow that is a new level of dumpster fire going on there
i ruptured my groin 4 years ago. my doctor refuses to give me painkillers so i can work. ive lost everything. i sought help elsewhere. so now i have to partake in criminal activity just to work and pay taxes.
I don't have a " family dr " anymore ..so
WTF? If a person breaks a limb during a car wreck and has to go to a hospital, are they going to loose their regular doctor?
That's pretty crazy.
You need to get into a practice that has 3 or 4+ doctors. That way they can make sure you can see one of the doctors quickly .. in my case within 24-48 hrs. They'll also often be linked to an after hours set up perhaps with another practice. Using any of these linked doctors avoids the billing problem. Some support phone appts.
Problems only occur if you're too far away or unable to get to their location. Legit places usually will give u a break if its just a one-off and you explain to them via phone beforehand.
Unfortunately not all practices are that ethical .. and you run into trouble when you move & have to find a decent new practice.
Do no harm; doctors seem to forget this and if something goes wrong the hospital lawyers and CMPA make sure that you really couldn't afford to sue nor will they admit their mistakes.
Write to Ford and complain!!
Isn't socialized healthcare oh so wonderful
That is completely stupid and disrespectful to the family and why is that have that stupid and insensitive actions of an entity and a doctor and a government completely ignorant. That healthcare that the government shut it on. Over the years and never fix or do they really really don’t care about Canadians or the government is really messed up .
What??? They get billed? This doesn’t make sense
I'd love for any doctor to talk to me like that. I am a millionaire I don't answer to nobody period.
All quacks
It's a seller's market right now for family medicine.