SQLite is enough

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  • SQLite is enough.
    You should not use MySQL or Postgres.
    And you should definitely not use queues
    or other fancy cloud services like that
    Here is why
    Simplicity
    Complexity is coming from everywhere,
    and to keep ourselves sane,
    we have to pursue simplicity.
    At the end of the video
    I'll show why SQLite is enough
    Benchmarks and shit
    SQLite benefits
    But first, isn't SQLite just a toy technology?
    Not really
    SQLite gives a fresh breath of air
    It is the sleek database
    It is a super duper relational database
    but just a file.
    There are no servers.
    It is incomprehensible what this does to your flow.
    Elegant things happen when you just have a file.
    1. Setup and permissions
    2. Staging environment
    3. Wonderful little things like Metabase
    Why can you do this?
    Standard Traffic
    46% of websites received 1,001-15,000 visitors
    19.3% received 15,001-50,000 visitors
    23.2% received 50,001-250,000 visitors
    11% received 250,001-10 million visitors
    Only 0.5% of websites received more than 10 million visitors per month
    blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6...
    Performance?
    ```
    Insert 50,000 took 113.7 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 114.3 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 114.3 ms ([NOMUTEX, 8000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 114.8 ms ([NOMUTEX, 4000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 115.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 115.1 ms ([NOMUTEX, 2000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 115.5 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 116.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 116.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 4000, 8192, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 116.2 ms ([NOMUTEX, 4000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    ...[snip]...
    Insert 50,000 took 307.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 316.3 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 1000, 1024, EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 335.3 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 2000, 4096, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, WAL])
    Insert 50,000 took 348.9 ms ([NOMUTEX, 2000, 4096, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 351.4 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 1024, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, FULL, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 355.1 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 2000, 1024, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, NORMAL, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 368.1 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 1000, 1024, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, FULL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 368.1 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 2000, 4096, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 436.4 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 1024, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, FULL, WAL])
    Insert 50,000 took 541.6 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 4096, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, FULL, MEMORY])
    ```
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ความคิดเห็น • 54

  • @nodidog
    @nodidog 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I use SQLite by default. If a project needs a client + server structure, anticipates lots of concurrent writes, or requires more granular permissions, then I'd use Postgres - but they rarely do. SQLite is very, very capable, im a big proponent. Also, it is trivial to spin up an in-memory database with SQLite - great for lightening fast tests

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Nodidog, you might check a new video about SQLite in Production th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html

  • @thomasborg4442
    @thomasborg4442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Didn't think about the staging environment, but you're 100% spot on

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Thomas!

  • @Imaginativeone_DF
    @Imaginativeone_DF วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Magnificent video - thanks for making it.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! :) I also made a follow up here
      th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html
      Tell me what you think :)

  • @the_ace248
    @the_ace248 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I honestly love the whistle lol. It adds a bit of 'fill' to the silence.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thanks for writing this. Hehe it is a bit funny, so many complained about the whistle, but it is also our most performant video so far :)
      By the way, if you liked this, I made a follow up video here
      th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html

  • @steffengroenandersen
    @steffengroenandersen 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Bro, someone is whistling in the background music on this video 😅 It can make it hard to pay attention - atleast for me.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Hey Steffen!
      Yea we got told this. We are never doing that again hehe. Like 10 people complained about it so far.
      By the way, if you wanna know about running SQLite in Production, I just released this
      th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html
      Hygge :))

  • @BosonCollider
    @BosonCollider 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There's a few caveats to the "just copy the file" argument, you do need to lock the database file using sqlite commands to take backups if it is in journaling mode. It's a bit less of an issue in WAL mode where you can have multiple readers, but you still can't just use cp if the database file is in use. You can use tools like litestream but then you are technically back to having a streaming replica setup although a simpler one.
    Sqlite is really really nice when it is an option though. It makes testing a lot easier, and sharding between users or self-service/provisioning is absolutely trivial which is another major advantage imo. If you need a lot of databases sqlite is your friend.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey Boson,
      Yes, that's (kinda) true. They warn against using cp as it can corrupt some of the data, but I never had an issue doing this.
      For backups, I also use
      sqlite3 your.db ".dump" > backup.sql
      that should work wtihout any issues. Litestream is really cool concept, I haven't tried it but it is on the todo list.
      By the way, Monday I'll release a new video called "SQLite in Production - a master course". You'll probably enjoy that one ;)

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Boson, the SQLite in Production video is ready😎 th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html

  • @avsync-live
    @avsync-live 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think the advantage of copy and pasting your database is a little overrated. If you are setting up a pipeline to test and deliver your software, replicating databases between environments is abstracted away and automated. Automation is easier than copy and pasting files between environments. It’s more work to set up the first time, but then more reliable and hands off from then on.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey Avsync - Audio Video Sync? :P
      For our staging environment we literally just run the following command locally
      scp user@PRODSERVER:./db.db /tmp/db.db
      scp /tmp/db.db user@STAGSERVER:./db.db
      and when we make a new project, we just copy paste this command. It is that easy. Sometimes we need to also copy uploaded files, and then we use rsync.
      It seems silly, it seems stupid, but it is so easy to work with comparaed to pipelines etc..

  • @_shahdhaval
    @_shahdhaval หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How you handle multiple requests accessing the same db file?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question, SQLite can handle it in most cases. If you have many apps doing continous queries it can be a problem, but usually it is not.
      You should probably set a PRAGMA to WAL, but it is very easy one liner.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey Shahdhaval, the SQLite in Production video is ready th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html
      There I'm explaining why and how to use WAL

  • @vanillaface6097
    @vanillaface6097 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I agree SQLite is fast, but you also need replication if you don't want to be down when one server is down. There's BedrockDB which is distributed SQLite with same benefits, but it's replicated.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, but it comes with a caveat. a lot more complexity. We have like 1 hour of downtime on most of our Hetzner machines per year. They just keep running when you 1. keep them overpowered and 2. keep it simple.
      BedrockDB sounds cool though, tell me more about it. How's the difference between litestream?

    • @charliezugasti
      @charliezugasti 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MartinBaun can LiteFS be used to replicate the db?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@charliezugasti Cool! I haven't seen LiteFS before. It looks like it can. So many things are happening in SQLite Universe right now.

  • @Alex-zm9ww
    @Alex-zm9ww 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    are u planning to release the "config" video soon ?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Hey Alex,
      Thanks for asking. I completely forgot about this video.
      I'll start working on it. Probably have it for you in a few days ;)
      Stay tuned!

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey Alex, the SQLite in Production video is ready th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html

    • @Alex-zm9ww
      @Alex-zm9ww 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MartinBaun wow, thanks a lot!

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Alex-zm9ww Thanks for reminding me :))

  • @CaribouDataScience
    @CaribouDataScience 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    But duckdb is enougher....

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      DuckDB looks very interesting. Can you tell me more about it? I see it is in-memory but persist to disc. So I could imagine it is super fast

    • @karaloop9544
      @karaloop9544 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MartinBaun sqlite = OLTP, duckdb = OLAP for what it's worth.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@karaloop9544 didn't get that analogy at all. Can you elaborate Kara? :)

  • @earthling017
    @earthling017 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The video is informative and good to see. One feedback - the background score is very distracting. Please change it or get rid of it.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Earthling, thank you!
      What do you mean with the background score?
      1. the sound?
      2. the memes ?
      3. the background I am filming at?

    • @samuelm2934
      @samuelm2934 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MartinBaun it's the sound/background music for me

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samuelm2934 Thank you so much Samuel!
      Yes, it is quite distracting. Next videos we'll avoid this.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Earthlin👋, you can check our new video "SQLite in Production" th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html
      I think this time the background music is not distracting from the video. 😎

  • @YouTubePavlo
    @YouTubePavlo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How about difference between sqlite and, for example, postgres? There may be a lot of problems if you will be top 10% visited sites
    But in general SQLite is great for pet-projects, startups etc.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The 99% of websites should be fine unless you have very specific needs.
      The change that you'll become more than a 1% visited website is very low.
      And if you do, then switching from SQLite3 to Postgres is a lot easier than the reverse.

    • @BosonCollider
      @BosonCollider 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You need postgres if more than one running process needs to connect to the db. Postgres can be used as a message bus for example, while sqlite can't. But sqlite is very useful when you need a database that is owned by one application.

    • @YouTubePavlo
      @YouTubePavlo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Does it mean that microservices can't eeven possibly work with SQLite?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TH-camPavlo
      You can but it is probably not a great choice.
      You could for example have each microservice have their own sqlite database.
      Probably not great as I mentioned. As @bosoncollider mentioned, Postgres is probably better here

    • @StephanBeal
      @StephanBeal 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BosonCollider "You need postgres if more than one running process needs to connect to the db" is not true. SQLite's forum and source control system are both sqlite-based and are in concurrent use 24/7 by many users, each request being processed by a separate CGI application instance (as opposed to a single persistent server process). Aside from those, at least one separate application continually polls the databases for queued email notifications to send out.

  • @mojo6689
    @mojo6689 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Mojo! If you like this, you'll probably like my newest video about SQLite in production!
      th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html
      if you have questions, just write and I'll reply :)

  • @BrunoBernard-kn6vt
    @BrunoBernard-kn6vt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just doing a copy-paste of a db is so underrated 😂

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      exactly! It just makes things so much easier. Where do you use Sqlite?

    • @BrunoBernard-kn6vt
      @BrunoBernard-kn6vt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MartinBaun I have a inventory management system used by my clients. Single instance on a 6$ vps :)
      Had zero hiccups so far! 🎉

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      cool, yeah And backup is so easy and simple Kudos to you for not doing what most people would do. Making it "web-scalable" with cloud infrastructure and complicated stuff

    • @BrunoBernard-kn6vt
      @BrunoBernard-kn6vt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MartinBaun that's right! Also I am looking at SQLite extensions and litstream for disaster recovery.
      One example of extensions is to compress the data with time. Since everything is one server it has only 20Gb. I am planning to try it. Benchmarks say it can reduce 1GB of data to 72MB which is insane!

  • @blueml08
    @blueml08 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, but pls next time - skip the whistle background sounds.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you Blue,
      You're not the only one saying this, and I wont have this on next time :)
      By the way, I am soon making the configuring / mastering SQLite in production.
      Stay tuned :)

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey Blueml08, you might want to check our new "SQLite in Production video" 😎 th-cam.com/video/z6LUgup3bs0/w-d-xo.html