This movie is such a master class in movie writing..........and all the actors gave full force to their performances. Also fun fact, the lineup scene was actually an outtake that the director liked so much he put it in the final cut
@@luisn642 they don't know for sure but rumor has it they did so many takes the director walk away and the scene in the movie was the best one they had so they used it
One of my favourite films since I was 10, the twist is absolutely top notch. When ur own lead actor thinks he is the villain until he sees the film, that's a genius movie
Söze in Turkish language comes from the idiom "söze boğmak", which means "to talk unnecessarily, talk too much and cause confusion": Verbal. Keyser comes from Julius Caesar and in many languages means Emperor=King of Kings: Kint.
@@mattyoung7415 I speak Turkish and I didn't make that connection. The reveal still shocked me. I can say the same with most Turks I know who watched the film. It was just such a masterful job of story telling.
Go back and watch the scene where Verbal first gets to the office and is waiting for the cops to come and talk to him. You can see him looking around the cork board for ideas.
@@starkjet2197 And his ice cold face when he kills the heroin dealer. The little smirk when Cuyon is yelling "I'm smarter than you!" Spacey did such a good job piling layer upon layer with this character.
My dad went and saw this in the theater thinking he was going to a comedy. He rented it to show me as soon as he could. It became my favorite movie for a long time.
The one fun fact about this movie I love is that all five actors believed they were the real Keyzer Soze. Only Kevin Spacey knew from the outset of his character that he was the real Soze
@@NiceDudeMovieNight Gabriel Byrne was so convinced he was Keyser that he got incredibly pissed off and confronted Nolan after the first screening. It nearly ended in a fist fight. (Irish guy, you know.)
@@NiceDudeMovieNight Id recommend brassed off as a classic british Comedy with a young ewan Mcgregor, its a bit similar to the full monty but about a Brass band rather than strippers but has the same men hard up doing their best thing going. alternatively "in the name of the father" got him an oscar nomination. or "Amistad" where spielberg called him the best actor ever. Cant really go wrong with any of them.
This movie is so iconic and everyone involved played their roles perfectly. If you guys like plot twists like this and haven't seen it yet, you should watch Primal Fear (1996). It was Edward Norton's film debut (playing opposite of Richard Gere and Laura Linney) and he NAILED IT!
@@kelly9876 Kevin had a knack for mastering roles like that. American Beauty and The Life of David Gale are a couple more of his films that stand out when I think of his filmography.
"The actor who played Kobayashi" was the late (2011) Pete Postelthwaite who, after working with him on "The Lost World: Jurassic Park" (1997), Spielberg described as "the best actor in the world".
My belief is that Verbal did tell most of the story truthfully but he slipped in small lies using context throughout the office to change things and give a sense that he had a backstory, that he could change names to protect his informants, and so that he himself would be out of the spotlight. By only changing small details using what he's looking at he could ramble on and on. For most lies you would have to think for a moment to come up with something believable but he didn't need to because most of what he said was true. Honestly the name Verbal really fits his character because with all his talking he can make you believe anything.
The only things we know for certain are what law enforcement already knows and can corroborate. The initial hijacking happened, the lineup happened. The shootout and explosion at the dock happened, 3 of the 5 men from the lineup were found dead at the scene, along with the Argentinian snitch who could identify Verbal as the leader or an operative of the criminal entity known as "Keyser Soze," and the only two survivors were Verbal and one of the Hungarians. The robbery of NY's Finest Taxi Service happened but we don't even know that it's them. Verbal's partner may or may not be a lawyer and his name is most definitely not Kobayashi. ALL THE REST OF IT could be bull$hit. "Redfoot" may not exist at all. Hockney could still be alive somewhere (possibly another accomplice)
The movie.... has character flashbacks.... where characters see things..... that they weren't there for the first time.... it's seriously the stupidest movie in history.
@@alittlebitgone if you're talking about Kooyan thinking that Keaton was Soze, we're not watching a memory so much as Kooyan's perception of his theory. A bit like the testimonies in "Knives Out".
The thing you have to remember about the villain is that he wasn't a super well-known actor yet. So from the perspective of movie watchers when this came out - they never would have suspected him. Near the end when presented with Keaton, I remember thinking there was no way it could be Keaton, that had to be a mistake, but at the same time, I didn't know who else it could be. They sure made it seem plausible. And that last line, man... gives me chills every time. Especially with the final strings music note right after. AWESOME. 😄 "And like that -- (blows out) - he's gone." DUNNNNNNNNNNN. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
If you like the actor who played Kobayashi you need to watch In The Name of the Father, with Daniel Day-Lewis and Emma Thompson. No words for their performances! Amazing movie.
They execute it brilliantly. At first you think Keaton being Keyser was the big twist. Then, once you feel like the movie has shown its cards, it hits you with the real one.
I’ve seen other people react to this movie and they all focus on Kevin Spacey as the bad guy, but I think that’s because he’s actually a bad guy. But if you rewatch the movie, you see him sitting in the office and what looks like boredom is actually him putting the story together. He also doesn’t name Kobyashi until he sees the bottom of the cop’s coffee mug
it worked so well back in the day because Spacey was basically unknown. He was just a character actor and wasn't ever seen as a lead. Byrne was a much more believable bad guy and not showing his body was brilliant.
Typecasting after the fact. That's the problem with watching classics that are decades old. Big names nowadays known for doing a character, role, genre, and or alignment compared to back then when they were not.
@@SmaugUKA It sometimes works in reverse too.. so many reactors associate Arnold Schwarzenegger with playing a good guy that when they see the first Terminator they get taken aback.
@@user-dz6fy6qv2l Yup no one expected his character to be the focal point. He was like you said relatively unknown compared to the other actors. Keaton's character was basically there to get the attention off Verbal.
PLEASE watch Lucky Number Slevin after this! I always have to watch these two movies together. They are both amazing films full of dialogue acrobatics and layers of story. Sadly, Slevin doesn't get enough love! Please give it some!
They give a subtle hint early in the movie when Verbal smokes a cigarette the Old World way (between thumb and forefinger with palm turned up). No one without significant life experience abroad smokes like that.
Pete Postlethwaite was such a good actor and a "face"... You can see him in a lot of 90's movies such as Alien3, Brassed off (this one with Ewan McGregor), Amistad...
Yeah, that's the problem of a movie becoming enough of a classic that people talk about its amazing twist -- people now are on the edge of their seat looking for it all through. (Plus the fallout of living in a movie world where 20+ years ago a couple of movies became famous precisely for their last-minute twists; now everyone is wised-up and looking for one.) But DESPITE that, as you noted, it does a good job of faking out a viewer: the extra "solution" near the end is enough to mix things up a little. And all that aside, it's just beautifully made: editing, music (both done by the same person!), writing direction, acting, cinematography, all top tier.
13:07 "This script is like a mousetrap." The screenwriter's (Chris McQuarrie) directorial debut was The Way of the Gun, an underappreciated movie that I don't think I've seen anyone react to. You guys could be the first!
That actually would be an amazing ending which would make it even better actually. That would also make him look more like the original man casted as Keyser, just with short hair.
You guys rock!!! You really have an excellent grasp on what makes a great movie work and this is a classic. I know you most likely don't take request through TH-cam but throw "The Game" up on that patreon pole if either of you haven't seen it and see how it does, I think you will really appreciate that movie.
The only things we know are true for certain are what law enforcement already knows and can corroborate and what we are shown after the reveal. The initial hijacking happened, the lineup happened. The shootout and explosion at the dock happened, 3 of the 5 men from the lineup were found dead at the scene, along with the Argentinian snitch who could identify Verbal as the leader or an operative of the criminal entity known as "Keyser Soze," and the only two survivors were Verbal and one of the Hungarians. The robbery of NY's Finest Taxi Service happened but we don't know that it's them. Verbal has an accomplice who may or may not be a lawyer and his name is most definitely NOT Kobayashi. The rest of it could all be bull$hit. "Redfoot" may not even exist. Hockney might be alive somewhere. The origin story may or may not be true. If it is true, it may not be about Verbal. We assume Verbal is Keyser Soze but it could be Not-Kobayashi. Or they could both work for someone else. It may be a title handed down from master to apprentice like The Dread Pirate Roberts. The origin story was true about the first Keyser Soze, but the mantle may have passed on a dozen times before it became Verbal. Ironically, Verbal ultimately failed. He went to all that trouble to keep law enforcement from figuring out who he is and he left a live witnesss who described him to the sketch artist. The Verbal Kint identity is burned, he has to get plastic surgery or continue his activities completely underground and off-grid.
The best line in the movie is when the Agent tells Verbal he was being used "because he's a cripple, because he's stupid." When that's exactly why he fails to recognize who Verbal is. The whole movie we see Agent Kujan pile all this garbage onto Keaton because Keaton was a cop turned criminal. He hears what he wants to hear and fills in the rest. Keyser is only too happy to help him do this, and creates a role that lets the preconceptions of Kujan undermine his case. I love this movie for more than just the movie itself. It is the ultimate handbook on twisting another person's prejudice and fear back around on them. It's Manipulation 101 and should be taught to everyone who has to deal with people in a negotiation or persuasion capacity. The greatest gift the world can ever give you is to be under questioning by someone like Agent Kujan.
Some fun facts Al Pacino was offered the role of Agent Kujan but turned it down. He had just finised filming Heat and didn't wanna play another cop so soon. He has since said that this is the movie he regrets turing down the most. Roger Ebert has this on his list of least favorite movies Christopher McQuarrie, the screenwriter, wanted to use the name of his boss at the time instead Keyzer Soze. His boss read the script and said no because he didn't wanna be associated with such an evil character. McQuarrie can also be seen at the end of the movie smiling at the camera in regards to the twist ending (for this video 23:28 left side of the screen, he's the cop standing between the two civilians)
This is still an awesome movie. And the quote "the greatest trick the Devil ever polled was convincing the world he didn't exist" its still such an awesome line... he's name is Keyser Söze!
It actually kinda gives it away. One of the first things Verbal says is "Somebody heard a voice, sometimes that's all you need." Keyser Soze speaks in the opening scene, and it's Kevin Spacy's voice.
I'd never seen this movie before either, so i got got to experience it for the first time here. Also just wanted to say that ive been bingewatching all of your content the last of couple of days. I really enjoy your reactions and your guys's whole dynamic it genuinely feels like hanging out and watching a movie with the guys. Sorry for the long comment lol but just wanted to say keep it up i feel you guys could become really really big one day
One of my all-time favourite movies! :D The fact that either a) Verbal was Keyser Soze, or b) Verbal was just doing his con-artist thing and fabricated the whole story of Soze is pure genius. It doesn't wash away Singer's noncery, though. Or Spacey's.
Fantastic reaction!!! You guys are always so much fun to watch! As others have mentioned, Primal Fear and L.A. Confidential are a couple more 90’s crime thriller/mystery type movies that will keep you guessing and both movies have a stellar cast that give awesome performances.
I don't understand! How? How can you be SOOOOO knowledgable about cinematography, directing, editing, and movies, yet YOU'VE NEVER SEEN The Usual Suspects!!!? Wow. That being said, that was an epic watch-along to one of the greatest movies of the 80's, 90's and 2000's. One of, if not my favourite movie ever. Awesome. Thank you.
At 3:18; the reason their laughing (unscripted), one of them farted. ;-D One thing that always got me was how didn't the Detective see K.S. get into the car? If you check the timing from when the Detective asked the officer where Verbal went, get to the street and look around, after Verbal had just walked straight down the street, than stopped to lit his cigarette, then got into the car so the Detective should have seen, when Verbal stopped, the coat, back of the head and height and even without the limp should have deduced that was likely V.K./K.S.? ;-)
What's even more interesting and what pretty much everyone I've ever seen misses is - Soze actually *_lost._* Think about it: Why did he start and go through with the entire thing this movie is about? To kill the _one_ person who could identify him. But now, there's a sketch of him, there's several detectives who can identify him, there may very well even be video tape of him walking around the police station. He'll never be able to show his face in any country that doesn't have an extradiction treaty, and he _may_ not even be able to leave the USA (only via some underground smuggling route... not sure how well set up those are for people _leaving_ the USA...) Hell, given how feared and hated he is in the criminal world, once the cops spread pictures, he's probably just dead.
One of the best movies ever made. Brilliant actors (the only one, although AMAZING actor, but kinda hamming it in this movie, got killed off first), fucking stellar script, and some of the most amazing camera work ever in film. And that story... Damn, I know Keyser Söze is made-up, and I'm still afraid of him.
This reaction has its own twist ending. At the beginning the bald one says he doesn't know anything about the film. Then at the end we get the reveal that he knew there was a big twist going in.
Kobyoshi is played by Pete Postelwaite. He plays Daniel day flew id's father in film "IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER" EXCELLENT MOVIE!! OSCARS ALL AROUND.❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍😍😍😍😍
been enjoying your channel rewatching my favorite films with you guys - have you seen Mel Brooks the Producers 2005? Or the Warriors? So many fun movies!
I know I am late but here is a fun fact : The five criminals of the movie meet when they are brought in for a police lineup. It wasn’t supposed to be a funny scene, but the actors kept cracking each other up and started trying to get the taciturn Byrne to break. This annoyed Singer, who tried to get them to get serious. That didn’t work, so he used one of the takes where the actors are messing around. So the scene is actually a blooper added in lol
Not only that, the reason they were mostly unable to contain laughter was that Del Toro, after the almost incomprehensible way he delivered his line (the "English, please" was a real response from a crew member) kept farting during the scene and he was particularly malodorous.
i never felt like watching this movie but i love your channel so i decided to give it a whirl. I now know where SCARY MOVIE got their ending from. never knew. awesome job as always my dudes. P.S. great job on the editing, it flows really smoothly.
Omg this movie is amazing, the only unfortunate thing is its only a movie you can really watch once. Once you know the twist its hard to see it twice. Seriously though knockout performances from everyone involved.
Not true. On second viewings and more you begin watching for little details as to why certain people do or don't do certain things. That as much as a lie is being told, there's also truth to it usually in the subtext or things that happen off camera and the timing between them, or specific events.
didnt expect the dogpile xD Not saying its impossible just giving a small opinion, its like the sixth sense, any movie that relies on a huge twist and reveal loses steam the more times you watch it because its all banking on a big reveal. Once you know the reveal you cant really recreate what the movie is setting out to do. Plus im giving an opinion not an objective fact, so keep on the dogpile and scream lies or whatever lolll. Glad you guys enjoy the movie!
What pretty much everyone I've ever seen misses is - Soze actually _lost._ Think about it: Why did he start and go through with the entire thing this movie is about? To kill the _one_ person who could identify him. But now, there's a sketch of him, there's several detectives who can identify him, there's acual mugshots (from the lineup), there may very well even be video tape of him walking around the police station. He'll never be able to show his face in any country that doesn't have an extradiction treaty, and he may not even be able to leave the USA (only via some underground smuggling route... not sure how well set up those are for people leaving the USA...) Hell, given how feared and hated he is in the criminal world, once the cops spread pictures, he's probably just dead.
You can see why a writer would like this story. The good story teller is the most powerful person around. Driving the narrative. Also perhaps a bit of a subtle dig at the power of modern media. Spinning things to your narrative is more powerful than any army. Pen is mightier and all that.
Kaiser Soze. King (So Say). Verbal Kint. Verbal (Words). Verbal telling the story of what happen about the king So say ( one's personal statement or assertion). Connection was right there from the beginning.
I watched this when I was about 8 it was on film 4 ( channel 4 late at night movie ) watched it in bed sneakily on a school night Even then I was a little lost but the reveal blew me away. Tried to explain it to my classmates but it was lost on them.
The actors were all breaking character and having laughing fits during the "line up" scene because Benicio Del Toro had bad gas and kept farting. Many younger people don't know that the "New York's finest taxi service" was an actual thing, not fiction.
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Awesome movie
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This movie is such a master class in movie writing..........and all the actors gave full force to their performances. Also fun fact, the lineup scene was actually an outtake that the director liked so much he put it in the final cut
They were laughing because one of the actors kept passing gas actually
@@luisn642Yeah, Benicio del Toro wouldn't stop farting XD
@@luisn642 they don't know for sure but rumor has it they did so many takes the director walk away and the scene in the movie was the best one they had so they used it
Not sure how a movie that is nothing but plot holes and makes exactly zero sense is a master class in writing but sure.
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The best part of this was watching Chris hold it in every time Altaf mentioned something close to the twist. You should play poker dude
Altaf here! It's pretty remarkable. I wouldn't have been able to be as composed as he was
One of my favourite films since I was 10, the twist is absolutely top notch. When ur own lead actor thinks he is the villain until he sees the film, that's a genius movie
Söze in Turkish language comes from the idiom "söze boğmak", which means "to talk unnecessarily, talk too much and cause confusion": Verbal. Keyser comes from Julius Caesar and in many languages means Emperor=King of Kings: Kint.
Thanks for commenting that. What an amazing little touch. I wonder if any Turkish viewer's worked it out before the reveal because of that link.
SO Keyser Soze would mean basically "King of Bullshit"
@@mattyoung7415 I speak Turkish and I didn't make that connection.
The reveal still shocked me. I can say the same with most Turks I know who watched the film.
It was just such a masterful job of story telling.
Go back and watch the scene where Verbal first gets to the office and is waiting for the cops to come and talk to him. You can see him looking around the cork board for ideas.
Also when him and the others look at Keaton from across the street verbal is hold his cigarette like someone in Eastern Europe or turkey
@@starkjet2197 And his ice cold face when he kills the heroin dealer. The little smirk when Cuyon is yelling "I'm smarter than you!" Spacey did such a good job piling layer upon layer with this character.
My dad went and saw this in the theater thinking he was going to a comedy. He rented it to show me as soon as he could. It became my favorite movie for a long time.
The one fun fact about this movie I love is that all five actors believed they were the real Keyzer Soze. Only Kevin Spacey knew from the outset of his character that he was the real Soze
Interesting! I wonder if they withheld that info so it wouldn't affect their performances
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Definitely to keep the mystery about them. They apparently were all shocked during the screening
@@NiceDudeMovieNight Gabriel Byrne was so convinced he was Keyser that he got incredibly pissed off and confronted Nolan after the first screening. It nearly ended in a fist fight. (Irish guy, you know.)
Kobayashi (pete postlethwaite) is a character actor of absolute elite quality. Sharpe, brassed off, romeo and juliet and many others
We gotta check out his other role. We're familiar with him in Lost World and now this
@@NiceDudeMovieNight Id recommend brassed off as a classic british Comedy with a young ewan Mcgregor, its a bit similar to the full monty but about a Brass band rather than strippers but has the same men hard up doing their best thing going. alternatively "in the name of the father" got him an oscar nomination. or "Amistad" where spielberg called him the best actor ever. Cant really go wrong with any of them.
He was one of my favorites. His brief appearance in "James and the Giant Peach" is still one of the highlights of the movie for me.
@@NiceDudeMovieNight He also showed up in Aeon Flux
He was also in Alien 3 as a prisoner, great actor!
This is a classic example (One of the bests) of a script / screen play with what is called an "Unreliable Narrator".
This movie is so iconic and everyone involved played their roles perfectly. If you guys like plot twists like this and haven't seen it yet, you should watch Primal Fear (1996). It was Edward Norton's film debut (playing opposite of Richard Gere and Laura Linney) and he NAILED IT!
We'll check it out!
another amazing Kevin Spacey performance in a film with a good and complex plot is "LA Confidential"
@@kelly9876 Kevin had a knack for mastering roles like that. American Beauty and The Life of David Gale are a couple more of his films that stand out when I think of his filmography.
"The actor who played Kobayashi" was the late (2011) Pete Postelthwaite who, after working with him on "The Lost World: Jurassic Park" (1997), Spielberg described as "the best actor in the world".
My belief is that Verbal did tell most of the story truthfully but he slipped in small lies using context throughout the office to change things and give a sense that he had a backstory, that he could change names to protect his informants, and so that he himself would be out of the spotlight. By only changing small details using what he's looking at he could ramble on and on.
For most lies you would have to think for a moment to come up with something believable but he didn't need to because most of what he said was true.
Honestly the name Verbal really fits his character because with all his talking he can make you believe anything.
The lineup had to be real, it involved Kooyan himself. Pretty sure same about the "NY TAXI" heist.
The only things we know for certain are what law enforcement already knows and can corroborate. The initial hijacking happened, the lineup happened. The shootout and explosion at the dock happened, 3 of the 5 men from the lineup were found dead at the scene, along with the Argentinian snitch who could identify Verbal as the leader or an operative of the criminal entity known as "Keyser Soze," and the only two survivors were Verbal and one of the Hungarians. The robbery of NY's Finest Taxi Service happened but we don't even know that it's them. Verbal's partner may or may not be a lawyer and his name is most definitely not Kobayashi.
ALL THE REST OF IT could be bull$hit. "Redfoot" may not exist at all. Hockney could still be alive somewhere (possibly another accomplice)
The movie.... has character flashbacks.... where characters see things..... that they weren't there for the first time.... it's seriously the stupidest movie in history.
@@alittlebitgone if you're talking about Kooyan thinking that Keaton was Soze, we're not watching a memory so much as Kooyan's perception of his theory. A bit like the testimonies in "Knives Out".
The thing is, we can NEVER be sure. No matter how many times you watch this movie, you can never tell what was true and what he made up.
Keiser Soze is (kinda) German/Turkish for "The king of talking too much."
So, ya know...Verbal.
"This is the saddest Ocean's Eleven team ever" LMAO
The thing you have to remember about the villain is that he wasn't a super well-known actor yet. So from the perspective of movie watchers when this came out - they never would have suspected him. Near the end when presented with Keaton, I remember thinking there was no way it could be Keaton, that had to be a mistake, but at the same time, I didn't know who else it could be. They sure made it seem plausible.
And that last line, man... gives me chills every time. Especially with the final strings music note right after. AWESOME. 😄 "And like that -- (blows out) - he's gone." DUNNNNNNNNNNN. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
If you like the actor who played Kobayashi you need to watch In The Name of the Father, with Daniel Day-Lewis and Emma Thompson. No words for their performances! Amazing movie.
Pete Postlethwaite, and let me add "Brassed Off" to your movie suggestion.
"They killed Giuseppe "
The 'Sharpe' series for sure. Great actor.
The more movies you've seen, the more you're led into the trap with the use edits, camera moves, even advertising to mislead.I love that so much.
Me too. In that way it was like "Scream" it used your knowledge of horror movies as meta dialogue and used that knowledge against you, just brilliant.
What a Masterpiece!
The twist is so good and they way it's presented is so Unique.
They execute it brilliantly. At first you think Keaton being Keyser was the big twist. Then, once you feel like the movie has shown its cards, it hits you with the real one.
I’ve seen other people react to this movie and they all focus on Kevin Spacey as the bad guy, but I think that’s because he’s actually a bad guy. But if you rewatch the movie, you see him sitting in the office and what looks like boredom is actually him putting the story together. He also doesn’t name Kobyashi until he sees the bottom of the cop’s coffee mug
it worked so well back in the day because Spacey was basically unknown. He was just a character actor and wasn't ever seen as a lead. Byrne was a much more believable bad guy and not showing his body was brilliant.
Typecasting after the fact. That's the problem with watching classics that are decades old. Big names nowadays known for doing a character, role, genre, and or alignment compared to back then when they were not.
@@SmaugUKA It sometimes works in reverse too.. so many reactors associate Arnold Schwarzenegger with playing a good guy that when they see the first Terminator they get taken aback.
@@user-dz6fy6qv2l Yup no one expected his character to be the focal point. He was like you said relatively unknown compared to the other actors. Keaton's character was basically there to get the attention off Verbal.
00:13:10 That's why it got an academy award for it, among other awards.
K eyser S osez was written for K evin S pacey.
Also, soysez means "To speak", and Spacey was called "Verbal".
11:11 Baldwin actually got hit in the eye with the cigarette but signaled the director to keep going
PLEASE watch Lucky Number Slevin after this! I always have to watch these two movies together. They are both amazing films full of dialogue acrobatics and layers of story. Sadly, Slevin doesn't get enough love! Please give it some!
They give a subtle hint early in the movie when Verbal smokes a cigarette the Old World way (between thumb and forefinger with palm turned up). No one without significant life experience abroad smokes like that.
Altaf's sheer joy when Giancarlo Esposito's name appears, LOL!
That cigarette really hit Baldwin in the eye. That "oh FUCK" was very real.
If you guys have a way to watch DVDs, this one is really worth getting. The commentary is fascinating.
The scene where they are laughing was totally improvised someone farted and they were bursting out laughing love they kept that in
Pete Postlethwaite was such a good actor and a "face"... You can see him in a lot of 90's movies such as Alien3, Brassed off (this one with Ewan McGregor), Amistad...
Yeah, that's the problem of a movie becoming enough of a classic that people talk about its amazing twist -- people now are on the edge of their seat looking for it all through. (Plus the fallout of living in a movie world where 20+ years ago a couple of movies became famous precisely for their last-minute twists; now everyone is wised-up and looking for one.) But DESPITE that, as you noted, it does a good job of faking out a viewer: the extra "solution" near the end is enough to mix things up a little.
And all that aside, it's just beautifully made: editing, music (both done by the same person!), writing direction, acting, cinematography, all top tier.
13:07 "This script is like a mousetrap." The screenwriter's (Chris McQuarrie) directorial debut was The Way of the Gun, an underappreciated movie that I don't think I've seen anyone react to. You guys could be the first!
Keyser Soze!!! YAY!!!
It IS A GREAT NAME!!!
Anyone else run across the fan theory that Kobayashi (Pete Postlehwaite) is actually Soze, and that Verbal is just another red herring?
That actually would be an amazing ending which would make it even better actually. That would also make him look more like the original man casted as Keyser, just with short hair.
You guys rock!!! You really have an excellent grasp on what makes a great movie work and this is a classic. I know you most likely don't take request through TH-cam but throw "The Game" up on that patreon pole if either of you haven't seen it and see how it does, I think you will really appreciate that movie.
The only things we know are true for certain are what law enforcement already knows and can corroborate and what we are shown after the reveal. The initial hijacking happened, the lineup happened. The shootout and explosion at the dock happened, 3 of the 5 men from the lineup were found dead at the scene, along with the Argentinian snitch who could identify Verbal as the leader or an operative of the criminal entity known as "Keyser Soze," and the only two survivors were Verbal and one of the Hungarians. The robbery of NY's Finest Taxi Service happened but we don't know that it's them. Verbal has an accomplice who may or may not be a lawyer and his name is most definitely NOT Kobayashi. The rest of it could all be bull$hit. "Redfoot" may not even exist. Hockney might be alive somewhere.
The origin story may or may not be true. If it is true, it may not be about Verbal. We assume Verbal is Keyser Soze but it could be Not-Kobayashi. Or they could both work for someone else. It may be a title handed down from master to apprentice like The Dread Pirate Roberts. The origin story was true about the first Keyser Soze, but the mantle may have passed on a dozen times before it became Verbal.
Ironically, Verbal ultimately failed. He went to all that trouble to keep law enforcement from figuring out who he is and he left a live witnesss who described him to the sketch artist. The Verbal Kint identity is burned, he has to get plastic surgery or continue his activities completely underground and off-grid.
This movie won the Oscar for Best Screenplay.
And now the writer Is the director of Mission: Impossible movies...
The best line in the movie is when the Agent tells Verbal he was being used "because he's a cripple, because he's stupid." When that's exactly why he fails to recognize who Verbal is. The whole movie we see Agent Kujan pile all this garbage onto Keaton because Keaton was a cop turned criminal. He hears what he wants to hear and fills in the rest. Keyser is only too happy to help him do this, and creates a role that lets the preconceptions of Kujan undermine his case.
I love this movie for more than just the movie itself. It is the ultimate handbook on twisting another person's prejudice and fear back around on them. It's Manipulation 101 and should be taught to everyone who has to deal with people in a negotiation or persuasion capacity. The greatest gift the world can ever give you is to be under questioning by someone like Agent Kujan.
Fenster is quite a funny name. It means "window" in German. 😅
Some fun facts
Al Pacino was offered the role of Agent Kujan but turned it down. He had just finised filming Heat and didn't wanna play another cop so soon. He has since said that this is the movie he regrets turing down the most.
Roger Ebert has this on his list of least favorite movies
Christopher McQuarrie, the screenwriter, wanted to use the name of his boss at the time instead Keyzer Soze. His boss read the script and said no because he didn't wanna be associated with such an evil character. McQuarrie can also be seen at the end of the movie smiling at the camera in regards to the twist ending (for this video 23:28 left side of the screen, he's the cop standing between the two civilians)
This is still an awesome movie. And the quote "the greatest trick the Devil ever polled was convincing the world he didn't exist" its still such an awesome line... he's name is Keyser Söze!
I'm so glad I took a movie class in high school, the entire classroom freaking out is a good memory to this day
The script is amazing, won the oscar for Best Screenplay. Spacey won for best supporting actor
Pete Postlethwaite RIP, gone too soon. Legendary talented British actor. Superb in "Brassed Off"
It actually kinda gives it away. One of the first things Verbal says is "Somebody heard a voice, sometimes that's all you need."
Keyser Soze speaks in the opening scene, and it's Kevin Spacy's voice.
I'd never seen this movie before either, so i got got to experience it for the first time here. Also just wanted to say that ive been bingewatching all of your content the last of couple of days. I really enjoy your reactions and your guys's whole dynamic it genuinely feels like hanging out and watching a movie with the guys. Sorry for the long comment lol but just wanted to say keep it up i feel you guys could become really really big one day
When Verbal/ Soze gets into the car at the end and take a drag off a cigarette he reverts to his roots ... He holds it like a Eastern Europian
One of my all-time favourite movies! :D
The fact that either a) Verbal was Keyser Soze, or b) Verbal was just doing his con-artist thing and fabricated the whole story of Soze is pure genius.
It doesn't wash away Singer's noncery, though. Or Spacey's.
Recommendation for you two! A Knight's Tale. It has a bit of a Mel Brooks feel. I really think you'd enjoy it.
The Ad Begins At 2:13, And Ends At 3:17.
True hero.
I love ads, because people get money, but fuck watching ads.
Fantastic reaction!!! You guys are always so much fun to watch!
As others have mentioned, Primal Fear and L.A. Confidential are a couple more 90’s crime thriller/mystery type movies that will keep you guessing and both movies have a stellar cast that give awesome performances.
Your reaction at the reveal.. priceless 😊
This was such a fun reaction. Watching Altaf get taken down the wrong path by the movie for the reveal was so amazing.
I don't understand! How? How can you be SOOOOO knowledgable about cinematography, directing, editing, and movies, yet YOU'VE NEVER SEEN The Usual Suspects!!!? Wow. That being said, that was an epic watch-along to one of the greatest movies of the 80's, 90's and 2000's. One of, if not my favourite movie ever. Awesome. Thank you.
Another good movie with a ending twist is Smoking Aces.
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At 3:18; the reason their laughing (unscripted), one of them farted. ;-D
One thing that always got me was how didn't the Detective see K.S. get into the car?
If you check the timing from when the Detective asked the officer where Verbal went, get to the street and look around, after Verbal had just walked straight down the street, than stopped to lit his cigarette, then got into the car so the Detective should have seen, when Verbal stopped, the coat, back of the head and height and even without the limp should have deduced that was likely V.K./K.S.? ;-)
What's even more interesting and what pretty much everyone I've ever seen misses is - Soze actually *_lost._*
Think about it: Why did he start and go through with the entire thing this movie is about? To kill the _one_ person who could identify him. But now, there's a sketch of him, there's several detectives who can identify him, there may very well even be video tape of him walking around the police station. He'll never be able to show his face in any country that doesn't have an extradiction treaty, and he _may_ not even be able to leave the USA (only via some underground smuggling route... not sure how well set up those are for people _leaving_ the USA...) Hell, given how feared and hated he is in the criminal world, once the cops spread pictures, he's probably just dead.
One of the best scripts ever written!
3am and gets the notification. Watches immediately
One of the best movies ever made. Brilliant actors (the only one, although AMAZING actor, but kinda hamming it in this movie, got killed off first), fucking stellar script, and some of the most amazing camera work ever in film. And that story... Damn, I know Keyser Söze is made-up, and I'm still afraid of him.
Your ads are honestly the only ones I don't skip through
When I tell first time watchers of this movie. "There is a twist, I will tell you there is a twist, but you wont see it."
(True every time.)
11:09 It's funny because I always remember him as Dorian from The Mask
(Love that movie btw, if I may push a bit for a reaction 😁)
That was so fun to watch with you guys!
This reaction has its own twist ending.
At the beginning the bald one says he doesn't know anything about the film.
Then at the end we get the reveal that he knew there was a big twist going in.
Such a good film!!
Kobyoshi is played by Pete Postelwaite. He plays Daniel day flew id's father in film "IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER" EXCELLENT MOVIE!! OSCARS ALL AROUND.❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍😍😍😍😍
I remember the first time I saw this movie and it blew my young mind
Even though i now know the twist ending I still love watching it every so often
been enjoying your channel rewatching my favorite films with you guys - have you seen Mel Brooks the Producers 2005? Or the Warriors? So many fun movies!
3:17 Fun fact, in this scene the actors can't stop laughing because Benicio Del Toro was farting all the time ! 😁
pete postulwait, rest in peace. an actor like you is never forgotten.
I know I am late but here is a fun fact : The five criminals of the movie meet when they are brought in for a police lineup. It wasn’t supposed to be a funny scene, but the actors kept cracking each other up and started trying to get the taciturn Byrne to break. This annoyed Singer, who tried to get them to get serious. That didn’t work, so he used one of the takes where the actors are messing around. So the scene is actually a blooper added in lol
Not only that, the reason they were mostly unable to contain laughter was that Del Toro, after the almost incomprehensible way he delivered his line (the "English, please" was a real response from a crew member) kept farting during the scene and he was particularly malodorous.
i never felt like watching this movie but i love your channel so i decided to give it a whirl. I now know where SCARY MOVIE got their ending from. never knew. awesome job as always my dudes. P.S. great job on the editing, it flows really smoothly.
Omg this movie is amazing, the only unfortunate thing is its only a movie you can really watch once. Once you know the twist its hard to see it twice.
Seriously though knockout performances from everyone involved.
Not true. On second viewings and more you begin watching for little details as to why certain people do or don't do certain things. That as much as a lie is being told, there's also truth to it usually in the subtext or things that happen off camera and the timing between them, or specific events.
I like to rewatch it because it's so much fun. 😄 (And for all the marvelous little details, as SmaugUKA mentioned)
Odd. I've watched it dozens of times. It's never hard to watch.
didnt expect the dogpile xD
Not saying its impossible just giving a small opinion, its like the sixth sense, any movie that relies on a huge twist and reveal loses steam the more times you watch it because its all banking on a big reveal. Once you know the reveal you cant really recreate what the movie is setting out to do.
Plus im giving an opinion not an objective fact, so keep on the dogpile and scream lies or whatever lolll. Glad you guys enjoy the movie!
@@inquisition3173 We merely gave our opinions, too. Let's all calm down and move on.
What pretty much everyone I've ever seen misses is - Soze actually _lost._
Think about it: Why did he start and go through with the entire thing this movie is about? To kill the _one_ person who could identify him. But now, there's a sketch of him, there's several detectives who can identify him, there's acual mugshots (from the lineup), there may very well even be video tape of him walking around the police station. He'll never be able to show his face in any country that doesn't have an extradiction treaty, and he may not even be able to leave the USA (only via some underground smuggling route... not sure how well set up those are for people leaving the USA...) Hell, given how feared and hated he is in the criminal world, once the cops spread pictures, he's probably just dead.
You can see why a writer would like this story. The good story teller is the most powerful person around. Driving the narrative. Also perhaps a bit of a subtle dig at the power of modern media. Spinning things to your narrative is more powerful than any army. Pen is mightier and all that.
I love you guys. always fun to watch you. keep it up.
Imagine. You're 13 years old. Friday night, Pizza and your parents bring this home from Blockbuster. Mind blown.
Yall need to watch 12 Monkeys and Desperado same timeframe but this ... man what a film
One of the greatest extended endings to a movie ever 👍
My friends and I still quote lines from this money.
The outro is such a good song
Filmed Long Beach and San Pedro, CA. I live in LB. Watched dock scenes during day.👍👍👍
Awesome movie with a outstanding story and twist! Thanks for doing this one.
3:18 Behind the scenes, he actually let one go and it stunk really bad That's why everybody was laughing
One of my favorite movies!!!
Won Oscar for screenplay👍👍👍👍
I really enjoy watching this movie with people who haven't seen it yet. I really do 😂
This movie was sampled in a great 90's hip hop song. Ghostface Killah "Assassination Day."
2:11 You wait until the scene where Del Toro farts a lot to segue to your sponsor? Classy!
Best ending line in a movie
Apprehensive abt seeing this in 24 minutes. Surely it deserves more?
And yeah, Shirley agrees
Kaiser Soze. King (So Say). Verbal Kint. Verbal (Words). Verbal telling the story of what happen about the king So say ( one's personal statement or assertion). Connection was right there from the beginning.
I watched this when I was about 8 it was on film 4 ( channel 4 late at night movie ) watched it in bed sneakily on a school night
Even then I was a little lost but the reveal blew me away.
Tried to explain it to my classmates but it was lost on them.
One of the best movies ever made.
What the hell have I just seen. Fantastic ending I’m still confused haha
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“McMannis is agile as hell.”
The actors were all breaking character and having laughing fits during the "line up" scene because Benicio Del Toro had bad gas and kept farting. Many younger people don't know that the "New York's finest taxi service" was an actual thing, not fiction.
I swear to God, I just watch this movie for the first time! Like, I’m actually a little terrified of that fact.