@@androiduberalles Yeah, somewhere up until 2020. Shanghai cars are downright perfect, Berlin and Texas should be too. It's just that ancient Fremont factory messing up Tesla's reputation...
The system works like a charm, you rarely need to open the climate screen. Its really not big of an issue as it seems. After two weeks of driving you are completely used to it.
I have to say these comments are confusing to me. I might turn off my AC if I open my windows, otherwise it's always on auto, I don't touch it 99/100 times I drive, so for me it really isn't an issue whatsoever. Different climates perhaps?
@@ld921d7 its just the fact that its a bit more practical and its nice to have quick reach buttons maybe if you wanna change the fan speed or smtn on the run Cramming everything into a single screen is just way too distracting and like a few step more of a process to do stuff.. and also for some ppl its overwhelming
@@flappymcflapflap bro your comment is less funny then your dads jokes. Is Amy Schumer your favorite comedian? Because she’s just as boring and unfunny as you
I would've mentioned the laser headlights. They can turn on / off the high beams fully, or partially. You can have the brights on on one side of the car and off on the other, so as to not dazzle other drivers. Or the brights can be on on both sides of the car but off in the middle, so your high beams illuminate the road on either side of the car in front of you in your lane, while not dazzling that cars driver. It's a huge thing, especially for who drives really early in the morning, late in the evening or at night.
Fun fact about the matrix/adaptive headlights is that the US is late to approve them so now USDM cars are getting them. Toyota was the one that petitioned the NHTSA back in 2013 to allow them and it was finally approved earlier this year.
Doesnt the adaptive light thing exist for ages already? My driving school 330d in 2012 hat these. Sure it wasnt laser light but it was already fully automatic.
Taking the Model 3 Performance on the same "7" comfort level as the BMW i4 M50 is totally idiotic! Just a classic Doug DeMuro bullshit opinion. The Tesla is much noisier inside, it's much less interior refined and much more annoying at this point than the BMW i4, which has a total premium built interior. Therefore giving both cars the same "7" for comfort is completely wrong. Every BMW interior is way more refined than all these boring and "puristic" Tesla interiors. The sound design inside the i4, which was made from Hans Zimmer and his team, is also a good point, which is much more attractive for a way more emotional, interesting and satisfying daily driving experience, than the cold and reverberant atmoshpere in a Tesla Model 3. Tesla wannabe "build quality" is still CRAP, whereas BMW produces, just like Porsche, German build quality of the highest level! The Tesla Model 3 isn't by far on the same level of a BMW i4, period!
@@EvoroPictures I️ don’t understand how people think a new car could be unreliable…. even if it was the damn thing is warrantied for 6 years so it doesn’t matter either way
This isn't the channel for it. He'd need the car longer than he currently has them for this type of info. Doug's channel is more about giving you a quick overview about a car.
Carwow does some really great electric car range tests. They’ll test a ton of cars all in the same price range/body style and drive them till the batteries die. The only downside (for US viewers) is that their based in the UK, so some models aren’t available there. Still fantastic info though.
Doug just does overviews. Out of Spec does really good range and charging test and they are very methodical in their testing. I know they've previewed this and the iX, but I don't know if they have done range and charge testing yet.
4:44 I honestly was always a little surprised that those 90s/2000s style door handles didn't make a return sooner since it's pretty easy to make it looks flush witb the rest of the car
Although not flush, I like the old school retro look of most modern door handles. The hoop style grab handles seem to harken back to the golden days of prewar motoring and gives a sense of occasion to door opening, I feel
Yeah these look really clean when not in use and very slender when pulled--especially in comparison to, say, i3 handles, which look clunky and feel super cheap and plasticky.
@@androiduberalles Perfect! If it's cold enough for the doors to freeze shut, it'll be so cold that the battery only has 30 miles max range anyway! They're making sure you don't get stranded on the road.
Few things i like about bmw, is they keep their interiors kinda plane jane. Modern, nice, but open and kinda plain but it usually works well. The shifter knob is always very luxurious looking and feeling. Just an all around great vehicle. For the northeast they do an excellent job with rust prevention and thats something thats always worth noting imo.
The long hood, short wheelbase, tiny backseats and floor hump are all because this isn't a true bespoke EV. Seems like they just reused an ICE platform to make this.
@@Oemg35 he did, but then seemed surprised by the all of the above. It shouldn't be a surprise that packaging suffers greatly because of this strategy.
@@FlamencoOz Not the only one anymore. Plenty of other examples out there, including BMW itself with their now 10 year old i3! But apparently now they do it the quick and dirty way. It makes no sense.
@@FlamencoOz "Jaguar are the only ones that built their electric car (i-pace) from the ground up." What are you talking about? Following cars by the traditional manufactures are all electric from the Ground up without (and maybe there are more that I don't remember at the moment): - Mercedes EQS - Mercedes EQE - BMW i3 - BMW iX - Audi e-tron GT - Audi Q4 e-tron - Porsche Taycan - Hyundai Ioniq 5 - Kia GT6 - Ford Mustang Mach-E - Volkswagen Id3 - Volkswagen Id4 - Skoda Enyaq - Cupra Born - Jaguar i-Pace
Well, there is the iDrive controller dial on the center console. It operates the screen, so imagine an app where it becomes a secondary steering wheel...
Thanks for the video. In regards to the “driveshaft tunnel”, the i4m50 chassis is shared with the ICE gasoline version M4, which has a transmission and drive shaft running through the tunnel. BMW choose to use the same chassis design instead of developing a new dedicated EV chassis so it has the tunnel. However they did utilize what would have been wasted space by making the floor mounted battery pack utilize the space in the tunnel. It budges up in the center tunnel and also raises up where the back seat is to take advantage of more space.
Is there anyone else out there who would like to see a new EV with physical climate control switches dials and buttons, all analog gauges, etc? I want to be able to operate everything without looking, and you cannot beat the 3D contrast of analog gauges
I actually thought this car would have more physical controls so a bit of a disappointment there. Fortunately it has some and you can control the screen without touching which probably helps a bit. Anyway, I guess it has to be like this nowadays...
@@wr8thbeatz322 yea it also grew on me lol. I saw the new M3 Competition up close yesterday and imo it actually looks really aggressive and fitting for the car
Great to see your review of the i4 M50 Doug. I have one on the way this summer (metallic portimao blue with cognac interior with carbon fiber trim) So excited!! Been enjoyimg many US reviews that have been coming over the last month or so.
I actually think this is a really nice, competitive electric vehicle, especially when compared to a Tesla. While Tesla does still have pros over this (the frunk, more established charging network, range), I really like the sportiness and more premium look of the i4. I also like that BMW decided to give their all electric vehicle the same design language that their ICE vehicles have, while still changing small things here and there to match its electric powertrain. I wouldn't go out of my way to say it's an AMAZING vehicle, but I think it's definitely worth a thought and mention in the world of electric vehicles.
It has the same design language becuase they didn’t change anything. They took their gas car and made it electric. It’s the cheap thing to do but it doesn’t really make for an amazing electric car.
The problem with Tesla is that their designs are ugly (look like $30k Kias on the outside) and the interiors look cheap compared to other cars in their price range. Lots of people want a viable alternative.
I love watching your videos. I’ve seen almost all of them, and you’ve sparked the interest in cars that I now have. I’ve never had a want to learn about cars like I do until I watched your videos. Truly an amazing TH-camr. You’re awesome. Keep doing what you so
I used to own a BMW 3-series and I own a Tesla now. I miss the luxury feel of my BMW, especially compared to the Tesla, which I love but let's be honest... Luxury isn't why you buy a Tesla. A nice BMW electric like this is very appealing to me to replace my aging 2nd car (still ICE). My biggest issue with non -Tesla electrics though is still charging network. Tesla is just so far ahead of the game there. It'll be a few more years I think until it's really worth considering a non-Tesla for a 2nd car IMHO.
Dunno where you live but in western Europe it's very easy without Tesla network. Lots of alternatives, no problem whatsoever. I4 is an insanely good car, I'd advise you to consider it. Much higher quality than the model 3
Does/will Tesla license its charging network and interface in any way? Seems like a great way for Elon to make even more mailbox money forever and it would be a big benefit to EV drivers and other manufacturers.
@@johnpeace6968 My understanding is that they made the offer and nobody took them up on it. It would be nice if we could all get along on one standard but for now that's not a thing and Tesla has the superior network (in the US).
@@a-don13 That you can drive all over Europe with non tesla cars with no problems. There are more 3rd party hyper chargers through out Europe than tesla super chargers. Tesla is very quickly fallen behind in technology and charging network
You spend a lot of time on the user interface and the technology of the screens and infotainment systems but don’t rank them at all. It would be interesting to see a video comparing and ranking the infotainment systems of different cars and which one you think is the best
@@forzanerazzurri2339 when powertrains are all so similar and good, the real review comes down to the things that the driver really interacts day to day. Doug is also not a trained driver so super nitty gritty details that you get from a “normal” car reviewer aren’t his thing. he likes quirks and features, which are largely confined to infotainments and other driver controls.
Great review Doug. I've had one for 4 months and love it. Traded a Tesla because while I agree they are technically better, the BMW feels so much more substantial. Overall never had a car I have enjoyed more.
Great review and looks like a great offering from BMW. Regarding styling, its so subjective, I guess I'm in the camp of not being such a fan of the boxy shape (same thought on the Mach E) and actually prefer Tesla Model 3 style (but like the Model Y style a little less for some reason). Love the BMW heads up display - wish the Model 3 had that!
I must say, mad respect to the BMW people for really understanding what their customers are looking for. Case in point, presented @ ~12:24: Just look at the timeline between turn signal activation and the moment of first physical advancement to apply it. Quintessentially BMW, if it weren't for their bindings to legalities we all know where that stalk would be. 😂
Right.... Ppl love that grill and ppl are really in love with BMW new models... Not to mention the fact that the M cars now have the same engine as the 335i from 2002! Fantastic... Really doing what ppl want, I see. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@@BudaFZ See you really get it! Not to mention what must be the the most populous action tooken out by the Bavarian front; more power, less sports to their luxury, and more weight! Especially whe. Regarding the BMW-M brand, a bit tragic letter use, but apparently the 'M' letter holds fondness it's their stakeholders (oops, I mean customers!). You know they've got to beat out them dastardly Daimler-Blokez (Mercedes-Benz in American). Why have a do-it-aller when you can have another fat lazyboy on wheels like your competitors, and one dya perhaps your lounge-chair will have the most hp/torque to never properly reach the ground. Shots fired to the huxler behind all this..... 'AllAmerican-Germany', I'm pointin at you
This platform was already designed with EV version in mind. The problem is that an electric drivers car makes no sense. Theres no reason to do other thing than commuting in this car
While I agree with you, after seeing the ummm rather interesting designs coming out of BMW recently. I'm glad they kept it "normal car" looking and would be worried a clean sheet would give their design team too much space to ruin it...
@@comeberza Have you driven one? It makes perfect sense, and it's going to make BMW a lot of money. I'm shedding my 2019 Golf R as soon as the i4 eDrive40 I ordered two days ago arrives... probably the end of this year. I've been considering electric for several years, but need a vehicle with range in the neighborhood of 300 miles on a charge. For many reasons, I did not want a Tesla. I won't inventory those reasons here. Along comes BMW with an incredibly sexy, but also familiar Gran Coupe design, fully electrified, looks like a car instead of a spaceship, and drives like a BMW. The range and public CCS charge times are such that my i4 will have no reason for being merely a "commuter" car.
@@migbham1 I was specially talking about the M50 version. If you find my other comment in this video, I said that the i4 40 is the car to get because you will get most of bmw chassis control, longer range with decent acceleration and lower price. It's the 50 version that I dont understand because with the bigger wheels you just cant use it for other thing that accelerating because you simply cant go to a backroad, drive it fast and come back. Harry's Garage video proved that the range is at MOST 200 miles being very delicate and that is what I mean when I said you could either only commute or not come back from driving it fast.
Doug’s soooo excited to point out TWICE in one month… a Hatch has the Glowing Trunk Release Lever 🤣 LoL Just wish he’d stop missing so many “quirks & features”, since it’s a big thing for him. Cause it’s HUGE for me… I am obsessed with small features and unique quirks, ever since my first A6. So to be such a fan(of quirks, not Doug) , and watch Doug passover things all the time is frustrating.
fun fact, almost every car with an overhead camera system that displays the car has an option to configure the color of the vehicle. In my Tacoma, I had to enter the service menu where I could then change the color to match mine.
Build quality in the Tesla is several notches below the BMW i4 and even the Kia/Hyundai/Genesis products. That’s important since you are exposed to that in daily driving. BMW looks like a traditional car inside and not the lack of tactile features of the Tesla which relies ALL on the center screen.
21:00 this moment right here is why everyone I have given a ride in my Tesla Model 3 who hates electric cars SUDDENLY...really, really wants one. LOL. The acceleration, feel of control, low center of gravity, really gives you a giddy feeling. Super fun to drive. Going back to a gas car feels like reversing time.
That transmission tunnel is so that they can rout wiring and hoses through the center of the car rather than under the sills (as Tesla does) which protects them in the event of a side impact.
Q: If the grilles are now decorative, do they have to keep getting bigger year after year? A: yes, it's written in the "by-laws", page 36 iirc. okay next question.
@@JaeBTundra1The X40 has come out in the latter half of 2023. It has comparable power to the E40, but is AWD. However, it has all the weight of the M50 but only some 390 hp. That extra 300 pounds of weight doesn't seem a fair trade for only 60 hp more than the RWD E40 version.
Great review. Thoroughly went over features owners will use (infotainment) while omitting any mention of features owners don’t use (indicator stalk; side mirrors). Keep ‘em coming Hoovie
8:18 That's because the physical power button for the radio serves double-duty as the On/Off button for the car as a whole. Hold it down for two or three seconds to shut off the car. Press and hold that button for 30 seconds to do a reboot of the system (the whole "turn it off and turn it on again" to clear a glitch). Incidentally, emergency override is activated by keeping your foot off the brake pedal and hitting the Start/Stop button three times in rapid succession. This tells the car you're in a bad situation and need to get into a diagnostic mode. Gee golly, it's almost as if physical controls can provide something more than complexity-- like a contigency to software malfunction.
I saw one on a dealership test drive merging onto the turnpike & really couldn't believe my eyes because how unnatural it look when it accelerated, i finally caught up to it & saw a giant "i4" decal on the side & no longer was mad about cars going electric
Doug, I think I may be spoiled by channels like Munro and Transport Evolved, but I think some of the most interesting quirks and features on electric cars are to do with their electric drive train. Battery chemistry, motor magnet types, charging speeds and compatibility. I know this is info we could get elsewhere, but I think they are worthy of inclusion within your exalted quirks and features run downs.
BMW should have designed it from the ground up, then it wouldn't have the middle hump, better back seat space and would have space for a frunk. Converting ICE cars into EVs always give worse results.
So the "subscription heated seats" is a bit of a false headline thing. To save time in the factory, BMW wanted every model to come fully loaded and essentially allow clients to activate features they couldn't afford at the time later. Either a one time purchase or a subscription. I think the idea was trying to justify having every car be built fully loaded. (plus Tesla is doing this with a lot of their features yet no on complains)
One question. You always review cars during daytime for obvious reasons. But, I'd love to see how these camera systems (rear camera, all around 3D camera etc) work during the night. Do they have a night vision and if yes, which cars do they come with the most effective and high resolution night vision? Thanks :)
Don't know about the 360 camera mode, but the front and back cameras would at least have the benefit of lamp illumination (headlights ahead, and the reversing lights behind).
@@Daniel-dj7fh The main reason why is because a pure blooded M3 is not (as) comfortable on the road. an M40 has some love from the M division, but has the same BMW luxury feel.
There isn't a whole hell of a lot they can do to make it more of a M car other than just increasing power. But then you'll need more battery and that will increase weight even more. This is basically an electric M3. Everyone has said it. It's issue is the weight which effects cornering/etc, which is just an issue by default of all electric vehicles. Other than that it keeps up with or beats the M3 in nearly every test.
@@Daniel-dj7fh It's both, BMW hasn't been on the lightweight train for a long time. Which is my point. With current tech, this is a M3/4 EV. There's not much they could do right now other than increasing power and if they do that without increasing the battery, it's going to kill range. Adding more battery is going to add weight. If they legit make a completely brand new ground up M EV then they might be able to shed a little weight, but they aren't going to drastically get it down too far. If they cut amenities and go carbon fiber everywhere they might be able to get to around 4000lbs but it'll be tough. And if they do that the starting MSRP is going to be well over 100k. Which has never worked for BMW.
I'll give BMW this: as much as I HATE the grill they got going on, this looks far better than the i3. Credit where credit is due. Glad we're mostly moving on from the atrocious EV looks and at least keeping "traditional" body shapes
This is really a 4 series BMW, and the electrification was an afterthought. The rear bumper even has the clearance for two exhaust pipes I'm surprised that it doesn't have fake exhaust pipes.
I think these door handles look a lot more sleek than the 90s ones and also the common hoop type. Plus, 4 less actuators to break, since it’s a BMW 🤷♂️
@@Zadias personally I feel like this type hides it better. Every used car I’ve purchased has had tons of scratches inside the pull-style handles, and it’s facing out, so it’s pretty obvious.
I have taken the 2day M course in Spartanburg, SC. You jump back and forth between the M5 and M3. That 500 pound difference, you can feel. M3 can run circles around M5 in the corners
Simply put, it wouldn't have been used as one of the cars in the 2015 scenes in _Back to the Future II_ because it's not trying hard enough to look like a wacky vehicle of the future.
The i4 is just a few styling and interior tweaks away from being great! Surely they could do 2 different bumpers, one for the garish and another more restrained version in keeping with the rest of the styling. Also how is that giant screen just randomly sitting on the dash "luxury", it's as if they gave up trying to integrate it.
My whole thing with the i4M50 is that for 67k your barely as fast as a STOCK m3, (again they would need to have the manual to be slower, an auto is 3.1sec 0-60 compared to the 3.7 for the i4). The m3 starts at 71k, so for around 4k extra you can step into a brand m3 and your car will pull past 100 as quickly as it will get to it. Not so in an ev, which usually runs of steam after getting up to any type of serious pace. It will also corner better. Far better.
Integration into the dash would’ve been interesting with that size but tbh it makes it feel more modern. Spaceship vibes which new EV buyers would at least somewhat want
@@_PGleo86 Hopefully he comes around. That car doesn't get enough love. I own a Legacy GT and these cars have gone under the radar for years but good for us that own them as it's basically a WRX for 50% less with a nicer interior on the used market.
I think BMW could've made the kidney grillles less aggressive on these electric vehicles and possibly motivated bmw buyers to buy electric since they allegedly don't much care for the new giant grilles.
@@Daniel-dj7fh Yep. Also the bigger wheels run wider tires which increases rolling resistance... Could be wrong but I suspect the larger contact patch is the bigger factor than the unsprung weight
@@Daniel-dj7fhThey mean exactly that when it comes to the i4. The 18" wheels are 225mm front and back. The 19" wheels (optioned on the 35/40 or standard on the M50) are 245 in the front and 255 in the back.
I didn't say this can't be the case. I only stated that bigger wheel diameter doesn't always equal to wider wheels/tires needed. But that the rotation energy needed to accelerate and decelerate alone on bigger wheels will generally cause the mileage to drop@@BogeyTheBear
You can adjust the gauge cluster the exact same as the iX. It does not have the special button like iX as they just reuse the old media button but it now changes the display. Also you also have recent phone in HUD like the radio stations (when you have a phone paired).
If you don’t look the ice appeal of the BMW go get yourself an egg shaped car by that popular EV maker. Personally I like that it looks like a ‘car’ with proper wheels and not plastic hub caps.
Exactly, if I’m spending 60k on a car I don’t want “minimalism.” I want luxury and character. I’ve sat in penalty boxes that were nicer than the Tesla interior.
But the only reason it looks like an old car is that BMW was late to the party, they thought the EV revolution would take longer so they didn't develop a dedicated EV platform in time (they were early with the first i3 and then dropped the ball because they hired an EV-hating CEO, since fired). So now they have to shove electric drivetrains into ICE cars (trying to keep up with Mercedes, VW etc) and pretend they're the real thing. They'll catch up eventually, I'm sure.
This is a great overview like all of your content. I owned a number of BMW M cars back in the day and used to be a huge fan, but this car makes me realize why I would not buy one now. The word i would use to describe them would be "fiddly" - they just seem to have a lot of extra crap on them - trim, buttons, unnecessary stuff inside, etc. The ridiculous kidneys up front, overall size of the car, and other things are just a turnoff in my eyes. My first Bimmer was an E36 BMW M3 I bought brand new and that was, in my mind, the last real non-complicated BMW. They, in my not so humble opinion, really need to get back to that. If BMW would building something *like* a Tesla but with BMW flair and engineering would be great rather than all this complexity. Also on that theme, since this is an electric car - I would have thought BMW would pay more attention to electric vehicle platform engineering (lightness, simplicity etc) rather than just flinging their standard product packaging at an electric car and seeing what sticks. Still its a give and take - I wish Teslas had real features like these cars, but apparently thats never going to happen. Thanks again - great content.
Previous gen 4series grancoupe (F36) looks better to me...love the shoulder lines of Previous gen..the BIG TEETH is only acceptable on the new M3 Only in my opinion..
@@vindevhunta4905 I've seen an m440i drive around and honestly, as long as the grille is black and not so penetrant it's alright. That being said, I really hate the yellow color the m3 and m4 are being promoted with
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Integrated dashcam is a gamechanger. Every car should have that.
Teslas have had it since 2018...
@@wojciechmuras553 Tesla has also had bad panel gaps since 2008
@@androiduberalles Yeah, somewhere up until 2020. Shanghai cars are downright perfect, Berlin and Texas should be too. It's just that ancient Fremont factory messing up Tesla's reputation...
Some cars have those
@@wojciechmuras553 I mean the cars are built by robots so yeah
As much as I love tech, keeping climate controls as physical buttons is an absolute must. At least until self driving is perfected.
The system works like a charm, you rarely need to open the climate screen. Its really not big of an issue as it seems. After two weeks of driving you are completely used to it.
I have to say these comments are confusing to me. I might turn off my AC if I open my windows, otherwise it's always on auto, I don't touch it 99/100 times I drive, so for me it really isn't an issue whatsoever. Different climates perhaps?
ahh so the climate control buttons are why the i4 weighs 1,000 lbs more than the Tesla..
@@ld921d7 its just the fact that its a bit more practical and its nice to have quick reach buttons maybe if you wanna change the fan speed or smtn on the run
Cramming everything into a single screen is just way too distracting and like a few step more of a process to do stuff.. and also for some ppl its overwhelming
Even then it’s just more pleasant to use well-designed physical buttons and knobs imo.
To use the lane change assist, it means BMW drivers would have to learn how turn signals work!
BMW more uses normal turn signals. They stopped using those types of turn signals ages ago.
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@@drippgxd Most BMW owners don't opt to pay for the optional package that includes turn signals. Or so it seems. 🤣
@@flappymcflapflap bro your comment is less funny then your dads jokes. Is Amy Schumer your favorite comedian? Because she’s just as boring and unfunny as you
Haha 😂 guilty
I would've mentioned the laser headlights. They can turn on / off the high beams fully, or partially. You can have the brights on on one side of the car and off on the other, so as to not dazzle other drivers. Or the brights can be on on both sides of the car but off in the middle, so your high beams illuminate the road on either side of the car in front of you in your lane, while not dazzling that cars driver. It's a huge thing, especially for who drives really early in the morning, late in the evening or at night.
Fun fact about the matrix/adaptive headlights is that the US is late to approve them so now USDM cars are getting them. Toyota was the one that petitioned the NHTSA back in 2013 to allow them and it was finally approved earlier this year.
@@TheLJWay I'm so exited for this. I've designed many headlights for cars and can't wait until an oem asks me to do some laser headlights
Doesnt the adaptive light thing exist for ages already? My driving school 330d in 2012 hat these. Sure it wasnt laser light but it was already fully automatic.
Taking the Model 3 Performance on the same "7" comfort level as the BMW i4 M50 is totally idiotic! Just a classic Doug DeMuro bullshit opinion.
The Tesla is much noisier inside, it's much less interior refined and much more annoying at this point than the BMW i4, which has a total premium built interior.
Therefore giving both cars the same "7" for comfort is completely wrong. Every BMW interior is way more refined than all these boring and "puristic" Tesla interiors.
The sound design inside the i4, which was made from Hans Zimmer and his team, is also a good point, which is much more attractive for a way more emotional, interesting and satisfying daily driving experience, than the cold and reverberant atmoshpere in a Tesla Model 3.
Tesla wannabe "build quality" is still CRAP, whereas BMW produces, just like Porsche, German build quality of the highest level!
The Tesla Model 3 isn't by far on the same level of a BMW i4, period!
I thought laser headlights weren't yet legal in the US due to some regulations? That could have changed I have no idea.
The instrument cluster has a freaking notch! Truly is an i car
Trust when things go wrong as they do with Beemers everything works with that screen will be down
@@lordsofthecrackera always someone that’s never owned a bmw in the comments commenting how unreliable they are Lmao
@@EvoroPictures so annoying 🤣
the "notch" houses all of the eye tracking sensors for the autonomous driving modes.
@@EvoroPictures I️ don’t understand how people think a new car could be unreliable…. even if it was the damn thing is warrantied for 6 years so it doesn’t matter either way
Doug always leaves out a very important topic when discussing electric cars: real world charging and range performance.
And PRICE!! A model 3 Tesla is about $46K, a Honda Accord is $26K. $20K buys a lot of gas.
Harry's garage found the real world range to be just 180 miles
This isn't the channel for it. He'd need the car longer than he currently has them for this type of info. Doug's channel is more about giving you a quick overview about a car.
Carwow does some really great electric car range tests. They’ll test a ton of cars all in the same price range/body style and drive them till the batteries die. The only downside (for US viewers) is that their based in the UK, so some models aren’t available there. Still fantastic info though.
Doug just does overviews. Out of Spec does really good range and charging test and they are very methodical in their testing. I know they've previewed this and the iX, but I don't know if they have done range and charge testing yet.
Doug is awesome and I love his reviews. He always looks like he’s had four pots of coffee before filming a review.
4:44 I honestly was always a little surprised that those 90s/2000s style door handles didn't make a return sooner since it's pretty easy to make it looks flush witb the rest of the car
Although not flush, I like the old school retro look of most modern door handles. The hoop style grab handles seem to harken back to the golden days of prewar motoring and gives a sense of occasion to door opening, I feel
Yeah these look really clean when not in use and very slender when pulled--especially in comparison to, say, i3 handles, which look clunky and feel super cheap and plasticky.
They're not great for cold climates since its easier for them to get frozen shut. I haven't really had that problem with the hoop style ones.
@@androiduberalles Perfect! If it's cold enough for the doors to freeze shut, it'll be so cold that the battery only has 30 miles max range anyway! They're making sure you don't get stranded on the road.
@@joelness I got to look at a 2014 i3 last week and the driver's door handle was actually loose. I was shocked.
I think that marrying up the design that we already got used to with electric drivetrain is actually first smart move from BMW in last few years.
Most cars actually does this. The F150 lightning does this
Are we used to that grille tho?
@@justingarlitz2788 10x more than the new 7 series lol
Couldn't have said it better!
@@justingarlitz2788 yes we are I want a new m3 right now
Few things i like about bmw, is they keep their interiors kinda plane jane. Modern, nice, but open and kinda plain but it usually works well.
The shifter knob is always very luxurious looking and feeling.
Just an all around great vehicle.
For the northeast they do an excellent job with rust prevention and thats something thats always worth noting imo.
22:23 seems like the lady was impressed with the i4 or Doug himself
LMAO.
The long hood, short wheelbase, tiny backseats and floor hump are all because this isn't a true bespoke EV. Seems like they just reused an ICE platform to make this.
Well like doug said its just an electric 4 series gran coupe
@@Oemg35 he did, but then seemed surprised by the all of the above. It shouldn't be a surprise that packaging suffers greatly because of this strategy.
@@FlamencoOz Not the only one anymore. Plenty of other examples out there, including BMW itself with their now 10 year old i3! But apparently now they do it the quick and dirty way. It makes no sense.
@@FlamencoOz Porsche Taycan is a bespoke electric car also.
@@FlamencoOz "Jaguar are the only ones that built their electric car (i-pace) from the ground up."
What are you talking about? Following cars by the traditional manufactures are all electric from the Ground up without (and maybe there are more that I don't remember at the moment):
- Mercedes EQS
- Mercedes EQE
- BMW i3
- BMW iX
- Audi e-tron GT
- Audi Q4 e-tron
- Porsche Taycan
- Hyundai Ioniq 5
- Kia GT6
- Ford Mustang Mach-E
- Volkswagen Id3
- Volkswagen Id4
- Skoda Enyaq
- Cupra Born
- Jaguar i-Pace
I'm surprised that the steering wheel wasn't integrated into the screen
don;t give Tesla ideas...
Well, there is the iDrive controller dial on the center console. It operates the screen, so imagine an app where it becomes a secondary steering wheel...
Thanks for the video. In regards to the “driveshaft tunnel”, the i4m50 chassis is shared with the ICE gasoline version M4, which has a transmission and drive shaft running through the tunnel. BMW choose to use the same chassis design instead of developing a new dedicated EV chassis so it has the tunnel. However they did utilize what would have been wasted space by making the floor mounted battery pack utilize the space in the tunnel. It budges up in the center tunnel and also raises up where the back seat is to take advantage of more space.
My favorite part was when Doug left the temperature on 69. Certified gangster maneuver.
Is there anyone else out there who would like to see a new EV with physical climate control switches dials and buttons, all analog gauges, etc? I want to be able to operate everything without looking, and you cannot beat the 3D contrast of analog gauges
Only ev I’ve seen with nice physical controls is the Audi e-tron gt …. But it’s over 100k lol
use voice then tim smh
exactly, everything doesn't have to be electronic in a screen, then you would not have a chip problem
You can just say “BMW adjust the temperature to 72 degrees” and it does. I did that when I test drove it.
I actually thought this car would have more physical controls so a bit of a disappointment there. Fortunately it has some and you can control the screen without touching which probably helps a bit. Anyway, I guess it has to be like this nowadays...
That's a beautiful design but I'm not aure about the angry beaver face 🚘
The beaver face grew on me😂 the proportions make so much more sense in person
@@wr8thbeatz322 yea it also grew on me lol. I saw the new M3 Competition up close yesterday and imo it actually looks really aggressive and fitting for the car
Also, taking into consideration how most electric cars in this segment look like, this one is really nice (in my opinion at least 😅)
@@SyncedA it looks like an angry beaver
So a m4 in person the other day and still hate the angry beaver 🦫 face
why would BMW use their least popular grille on a car that doesnt need a grille. like, what?
Most likely they've seen people buy their bigger grilled cars over the years and concluded it sells well despite what you hear all the time.
*DOUBLEDOWN*
@@dzello I would bet money they will go back to smaller grills...
Its very popular actually… because everyone hates them
@@jesusbarrera6916 well they can't exactly go bigger..
Great to see your review of the i4 M50 Doug. I have one on the way this summer (metallic portimao blue with cognac interior with carbon fiber trim) So excited!! Been enjoyimg many US reviews that have been coming over the last month or so.
I actually think this is a really nice, competitive electric vehicle, especially when compared to a Tesla. While Tesla does still have pros over this (the frunk, more established charging network, range), I really like the sportiness and more premium look of the i4. I also like that BMW decided to give their all electric vehicle the same design language that their ICE vehicles have, while still changing small things here and there to match its electric powertrain. I wouldn't go out of my way to say it's an AMAZING vehicle, but I think it's definitely worth a thought and mention in the world of electric vehicles.
It has the same design language becuase they didn’t change anything. They took their gas car and made it electric. It’s the cheap thing to do but it doesn’t really make for an amazing electric car.
This is a much better and higher quality car than an Model 3 for a good price.
@@Grant5321 and I think a lot of people like that, a normal sporty looking BMW that happens to be electric.
Looks and feels much better than Tesla is a buy for me
The problem with Tesla is that their designs are ugly (look like $30k Kias on the outside) and the interiors look cheap compared to other cars in their price range. Lots of people want a viable alternative.
I love watching your videos. I’ve seen almost all of them, and you’ve sparked the interest in cars that I now have. I’ve never had a want to learn about cars like I do until I watched your videos. Truly an amazing TH-camr. You’re awesome. Keep doing what you so
12:27 Finally some BMW owners will use their turn signals!! 😄
XDXDXD made my day
I always joked that despite Germany's obsession with safety and regulations, turn signals were optional at extra cost and few buyers checked that box.
@@bwofficial1776 That's the crazy part, they don't care about the small things that matter on the road.
HAHAHA, this joke only gets funnier after hearing it for the 563rd time!! Lol
I used to own a BMW 3-series and I own a Tesla now. I miss the luxury feel of my BMW, especially compared to the Tesla, which I love but let's be honest... Luxury isn't why you buy a Tesla. A nice BMW electric like this is very appealing to me to replace my aging 2nd car (still ICE).
My biggest issue with non -Tesla electrics though is still charging network. Tesla is just so far ahead of the game there. It'll be a few more years I think until it's really worth considering a non-Tesla for a 2nd car IMHO.
Dunno where you live but in western Europe it's very easy without Tesla network. Lots of alternatives, no problem whatsoever. I4 is an insanely good car, I'd advise you to consider it. Much higher quality than the model 3
Does/will Tesla license its charging network and interface in any way? Seems like a great way for Elon to make even more mailbox money forever and it would be a big benefit to EV drivers and other manufacturers.
@@johnpeace6968 My understanding is that they made the offer and nobody took them up on it. It would be nice if we could all get along on one standard but for now that's not a thing and Tesla has the superior network (in the US).
@@computercrack insanely good? in what regards
@@a-don13 That you can drive all over Europe with non tesla cars with no problems. There are more 3rd party hyper chargers through out Europe than tesla super chargers.
Tesla is very quickly fallen behind in technology and charging network
The vents that go into the wheel well are not fake
Doug doesn't even need his voice. He has so much body gestures anyone with working vision can understand him xD
:)))
i have the edrive40 on order. test drove the m50 and the interior quality is streets ahead of the tesla 3
"The quality is streets ahead"
Hahaha what an odd sentence
isn't it supposed to be miles ahead? 😈
@@BRAINFxck10 seems like you're streets behind 🤷🏽♂️
streets ahead for sure.
FYI It’s a joke from the tv show Community
You spend a lot of time on the user interface and the technology of the screens and infotainment systems but don’t rank them at all. It would be interesting to see a video comparing and ranking the infotainment systems of different cars and which one you think is the best
What a freaking great idea!
All Doug cares about is infotainment systems. He's not a car guy, hes an infotainment guy. It's odd.
@@forzanerazzurri2339 when powertrains are all so similar and good, the real review comes down to the things that the driver really interacts day to day. Doug is also not a trained driver so super nitty gritty details that you get from a “normal” car reviewer aren’t his thing. he likes quirks and features, which are largely confined to infotainments and other driver controls.
would be a great crossover video with MKBHD
nice to see an actual car, i'm so damn sick of those awful crossover EV things.
the ix rolls around the corner
Very true
Sexy car, happy to see them make a normal looking BMW electric vs all the funky looking ones all car makers were coming out with in the beginning.
Great review Doug. I've had one for 4 months and love it. Traded a Tesla because while I agree they are technically better, the BMW feels so much more substantial. Overall never had a car I have enjoyed more.
By far the best looking electric car
I work at a crash test facility and we crashed the i4 today, crazy to see! :)
Great review and looks like a great offering from BMW. Regarding styling, its so subjective, I guess I'm in the camp of not being such a fan of the boxy shape (same thought on the Mach E) and actually prefer Tesla Model 3 style (but like the Model Y style a little less for some reason). Love the BMW heads up display - wish the Model 3 had that!
I must say, mad respect to the BMW people for really understanding what their customers are looking for.
Case in point, presented @ ~12:24:
Just look at the timeline between turn signal activation and the moment of first physical advancement to apply it.
Quintessentially BMW, if it weren't for their bindings to legalities we all know where that stalk would be. 😂
On the options list?
@@johnj3577 Precisely!
Right.... Ppl love that grill and ppl are really in love with BMW new models... Not to mention the fact that the M cars now have the same engine as the 335i from 2002! Fantastic... Really doing what ppl want, I see. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
It will probably sometimes change lanes without turn signal so other drivers think you drive your BMW yourself. It's called "Douchebag mode"🤣
@@BudaFZ See you really get it! Not to mention what must be the the most populous action tooken out by the Bavarian front; more power, less sports to their luxury, and more weight! Especially whe. Regarding the BMW-M brand, a bit tragic letter use, but apparently the 'M' letter holds fondness it's their stakeholders (oops, I mean customers!).
You know they've got to beat out them dastardly Daimler-Blokez (Mercedes-Benz in American). Why have a do-it-aller when you can have another fat lazyboy on wheels like your competitors, and one dya perhaps your lounge-chair will have the most hp/torque to never properly reach the ground.
Shots fired to the huxler behind all this.....
'AllAmerican-Germany', I'm pointin at you
I love how Doug starts a sentence while driving and then suddenly floors it and starts laughing
0:15 "520 horsepower"
title: "540-Horsepower"
The main problem is this is a EV powertrain retrofit to an existing car. A clean sheet design would give you a much better car
This platform was already designed with EV version in mind. The problem is that an electric drivers car makes no sense. Theres no reason to do other thing than commuting in this car
While I agree with you, after seeing the ummm rather interesting designs coming out of BMW recently. I'm glad they kept it "normal car" looking and would be worried a clean sheet would give their design team too much space to ruin it...
Baseless
@@comeberza Have you driven one? It makes perfect sense, and it's going to make BMW a lot of money. I'm shedding my 2019 Golf R as soon as the i4 eDrive40 I ordered two days ago arrives... probably the end of this year.
I've been considering electric for several years, but need a vehicle with range in the neighborhood of 300 miles on a charge. For many reasons, I did not want a Tesla. I won't inventory those reasons here.
Along comes BMW with an incredibly sexy, but also familiar Gran Coupe design, fully electrified, looks like a car instead of a spaceship, and drives like a BMW. The range and public CCS charge times are such that my i4 will have no reason for being merely a "commuter" car.
@@migbham1 I was specially talking about the M50 version. If you find my other comment in this video, I said that the i4 40 is the car to get because you will get most of bmw chassis control, longer range with decent acceleration and lower price. It's the 50 version that I dont understand because with the bigger wheels you just cant use it for other thing that accelerating because you simply cant go to a backroad, drive it fast and come back. Harry's Garage video proved that the range is at MOST 200 miles being very delicate and that is what I mean when I said you could either only commute or not come back from driving it fast.
My goal in life is to become as enthusiastic about something as Doug plugging his website for the 222nd time
Not really a BMW fan, but damn that looks good
bro moving hand like going crazy
Doug’s soooo excited to point out TWICE in one month… a Hatch has the Glowing Trunk Release Lever 🤣 LoL
Just wish he’d stop missing so many “quirks & features”, since it’s a big thing for him. Cause it’s HUGE for me… I am obsessed with small features and unique quirks, ever since my first A6. So to be such a fan(of quirks, not Doug) , and watch Doug passover things all the time is frustrating.
He's always forgets the little things in the car but I don't think Doug reads these sort of comments
fun fact, almost every car with an overhead camera system that displays the car has an option to configure the color of the vehicle. In my Tacoma, I had to enter the service menu where I could then change the color to match mine.
They kept the screen separate so that when it breaks down, they can easily replace it, for 10 grand. Probably.
Build quality in the Tesla is several notches below the BMW i4 and even the Kia/Hyundai/Genesis products. That’s important since you are exposed to that in daily driving. BMW looks like a traditional car inside and not the lack of tactile features of the Tesla which relies ALL on the center screen.
21:00 this moment right here is why everyone I have given a ride in my Tesla Model 3 who hates electric cars SUDDENLY...really, really wants one. LOL. The acceleration, feel of control, low center of gravity, really gives you a giddy feeling. Super fun to drive. Going back to a gas car feels like reversing time.
That transmission tunnel is so that they can rout wiring and hoses through the center of the car rather than under the sills (as Tesla does) which protects them in the event of a side impact.
Also has battery packs. So, in theory you can make the overall battery pack a smidge thinner to lower the cabin floor.
If the grilles are now decorative, do they have to keep getting bigger year after year?
Chinese market.
@@matthewp9015 ?
@@Daniel-dj7fh they like big grilles, they’re a status symbol.
Q: If the grilles are now decorative, do they have to keep getting bigger year after year? A: yes, it's written in the "by-laws", page 36 iirc. okay next question.
Front end looking at me like it’s about to assault me
😅
I’ve been waiting for this review!!!
Ah yes, M "tuned". AKA changing a few stats in a back-end xml file.
$50k markup coming soon at a dealer near you
Haa
Yes, and there is a sucker waiting to buy it
Someone will buy it for 60k lol 😂
They should have heated and cooled seats in the rear for that price point and generation
The rear seats are heated aswell. His car just didn’t have that option included
@@collinv8352 should be cooled still but who are we kidding i still cant afford this atm lol
@@collinv8352 I think he means it should be included at that price.
I really like the profile of this model and its looks overall. I agree the rear seat should be larger though.
What's great is that BMW kept the styling of an internal combustion 4 Series and not mady it look like a soul less EV machine🙏👌
Great screen
Except for less buttons, distracting....
I really like the design of this. I would of course go for a base model with M Sport package.
great choice, e40 is more than enough. It's very fast. M50 for maniacs
@@KDR816 it be nice if e40 could offer awd instead of being only for m50
@@JaeBTundra1The X40 has come out in the latter half of 2023. It has comparable power to the E40, but is AWD.
However, it has all the weight of the M50 but only some 390 hp. That extra 300 pounds of weight doesn't seem a fair trade for only 60 hp more than the RWD E40 version.
Still not convinced by the design especially the front. Looks like the face of a wild fly.
A fast electric car is like a good concert without the sound, it's just not the same. The m3/m4 is not in danger.
Never will be the same.
Except 95% of the time I'm really not int the mood to hear concert sound levels while I'm on the road, especially on long trips!
Great review. Thoroughly went over features owners will use (infotainment) while omitting any mention of features owners don’t use (indicator stalk; side mirrors). Keep ‘em coming Hoovie
8:18 That's because the physical power button for the radio serves double-duty as the On/Off button for the car as a whole. Hold it down for two or three seconds to shut off the car. Press and hold that button for 30 seconds to do a reboot of the system (the whole "turn it off and turn it on again" to clear a glitch).
Incidentally, emergency override is activated by keeping your foot off the brake pedal and hitting the Start/Stop button three times in rapid succession. This tells the car you're in a bad situation and need to get into a diagnostic mode.
Gee golly, it's almost as if physical controls can provide something more than complexity-- like a contigency to software malfunction.
I saw one on a dealership test drive merging onto the turnpike & really couldn't believe my eyes because how unnatural it look when it accelerated, i finally caught up to it & saw a giant "i4" decal on the side & no longer was mad about cars going electric
Instant torque. Once you drive electric, you'll want one.
Doug, I think I may be spoiled by channels like Munro and Transport Evolved, but I think some of the most interesting quirks and features on electric cars are to do with their electric drive train. Battery chemistry, motor magnet types, charging speeds and compatibility. I know this is info we could get elsewhere, but I think they are worthy of inclusion within your exalted quirks and features run downs.
Most people don’t know what any of that means. Just like he doesn’t talk about what kind of turbo bearings a Porsche 911 uses.
Nah
BMW should have designed it from the ground up, then it wouldn't have the middle hump, better back seat space and would have space for a frunk. Converting ICE cars into EVs always give worse results.
Also an extra 1,000lbs over a Model 3.
Next gen will be ground up design. BMW is still working on their EV platform.
BMW doesn't do frunks. The iX doesn't have one either. A lot of German car makers are like that: no frunk in the EQS or ID.3 either.
But it does get them to-market very quickly, and taking share from Tesla, as the whole industry transitions away from ICE
@@MartijnterHaar The i3 has a frunk. So did the i8. They are being lazy.
Definitely buying in the future
That camera really picks up leds and screens poorly Doug
Does this one come with those subscription-heated seats?
I would say yes, given how petty and desperate automakers have become
So the "subscription heated seats" is a bit of a false headline thing. To save time in the factory, BMW wanted every model to come fully loaded and essentially allow clients to activate features they couldn't afford at the time later. Either a one time purchase or a subscription. I think the idea was trying to justify having every car be built fully loaded. (plus Tesla is doing this with a lot of their features yet no on complains)
The quality is beyond any Tesla, very excited!
I drove this car. Its absolutely nuts, love it!
I just got a fully loaded Portico blue yesterday and loving everything except the range....20 inch tires = 220 miles
The start up/turn off sounds are in every electric / hybrid BMWs. X5e, 330e, iX, i4, X3e, 540e, 750e...
One question. You always review cars during daytime for obvious reasons. But, I'd love to see how these camera systems (rear camera, all around 3D camera etc) work during the night. Do they have a night vision and if yes, which cars do they come with the most effective and high resolution night vision? Thanks :)
Don't know about the 360 camera mode, but the front and back cameras would at least have the benefit of lamp illumination (headlights ahead, and the reversing lights behind).
BMW will just slap the M badge on anything they sell these days bc they know their buyers are just gonna do it anyway... 🙄
the whoel "m50, m60" naming scheme is so disgusting imo
Don't understand why they didn't just go with their basic "i440 or i450 or something
@@Daniel-dj7fh The main reason why is because a pure blooded M3 is not (as) comfortable on the road. an M40 has some love from the M division, but has the same BMW luxury feel.
There isn't a whole hell of a lot they can do to make it more of a M car other than just increasing power. But then you'll need more battery and that will increase weight even more.
This is basically an electric M3. Everyone has said it. It's issue is the weight which effects cornering/etc, which is just an issue by default of all electric vehicles. Other than that it keeps up with or beats the M3 in nearly every test.
@@suppaman19 m cars are about driving, not power
@@Daniel-dj7fh It's both, BMW hasn't been on the lightweight train for a long time.
Which is my point. With current tech, this is a M3/4 EV. There's not much they could do right now other than increasing power and if they do that without increasing the battery, it's going to kill range. Adding more battery is going to add weight.
If they legit make a completely brand new ground up M EV then they might be able to shed a little weight, but they aren't going to drastically get it down too far. If they cut amenities and go carbon fiber everywhere they might be able to get to around 4000lbs but it'll be tough. And if they do that the starting MSRP is going to be well over 100k. Which has never worked for BMW.
I'll give BMW this: as much as I HATE the grill they got going on, this looks far better than the i3. Credit where credit is due. Glad we're mostly moving on from the atrocious EV looks and at least keeping "traditional" body shapes
the "grill" looks nice in real life
Doug going "whoooo-hoooo-wheeeeeeeee!!" sold me this car.
I like this guy, he reminds of Quentin Tarantino but instead to of movies he is into cars! Excellent review, I'm seriously debating on getting the i4!
This is really a 4 series BMW, and the electrification was an afterthought. The rear bumper even has the clearance for two exhaust pipes I'm surprised that it doesn't have fake exhaust pipes.
It was part of the design process from day one.
I think these door handles look a lot more sleek than the 90s ones and also the common hoop type. Plus, 4 less actuators to break, since it’s a BMW 🤷♂️
I feel like nail scratching the area is more likely with these types of handles
@@Zadias personally I feel like this type hides it better. Every used car I’ve purchased has had tons of scratches inside the pull-style handles, and it’s facing out, so it’s pretty obvious.
I can’t get over the hideous front , what were they thinking
Been saying that for BMWs for the last 6 years!
@@ziggamon im holding onto my 340i forever
I have taken the 2day M course in Spartanburg, SC. You jump back and forth between the M5 and M3. That 500 pound difference, you can feel. M3 can run circles around M5 in the corners
Doug is like a walking car dictionary, any make, any model
This is what I'm talking about a NORMAL looking eletric car finnaly
Normal looking? 😅
Besides the big plastic grill!! 👽🛸
Simply put, it wouldn't have been used as one of the cars in the 2015 scenes in _Back to the Future II_ because it's not trying hard enough to look like a wacky vehicle of the future.
The grille still needs to grow on me because lmao
Nah, it's a growth, like a cancer
I don't think it can grow any more.
Needs to copy Tesla a bit, then we'd end up with two boobs on the front
It will never grow on u. Actually BMW Grill is going to get bigger so this grill is nothing
Honestly, I love this car!
BMW 360 camera is impressive
Doug, I find it interesting that you draw the letter S from the bottom up. what a quirk!
The i4 is just a few styling and interior tweaks away from being great!
Surely they could do 2 different bumpers, one for the garish and another more restrained version in keeping with the rest of the styling.
Also how is that giant screen just randomly sitting on the dash "luxury", it's as if they gave up trying to integrate it.
My whole thing with the i4M50 is that for 67k your barely as fast as a STOCK m3, (again they would need to have the manual to be slower, an auto is 3.1sec 0-60 compared to the 3.7 for the i4). The m3 starts at 71k, so for around 4k extra you can step into a brand m3 and your car will pull past 100 as quickly as it will get to it. Not so in an ev, which usually runs of steam after getting up to any type of serious pace. It will also corner better. Far better.
Integration into the dash would’ve been interesting with that size but tbh it makes it feel more modern. Spaceship vibes which new EV buyers would at least somewhat want
Day 33 of asking Doug to review a Subaru Legacy Spec B
I offered him mine (SWP 2009) a couple years ago and he wasn’t interested
No one gives a fuck about plastic outdated subary
@@_PGleo86 Hopefully he comes around. That car doesn't get enough love. I own a Legacy GT and these cars have gone under the radar for years but good for us that own them as it's basically a WRX for 50% less with a nicer interior on the used market.
I think BMW could've made the kidney grillles less aggressive on these electric vehicles and possibly motivated bmw buyers to buy electric since they allegedly don't much care for the new giant grilles.
hey at least they are completely black and don't have some chrome nonsense which would just make them stick out more
Totally! They’re Decorative?!! Like they didn’t need to put them on and… they did?! They could have not put the beaver teeth and they did?!!! Wtf?
those “oooweeheheheheee’s” during the acceleration are peak doug and i love it
22:22 The lady in the car next to Doug 😂
I was like "It looks cool" then I saw front grill -_-
Finally, a BMW “i” model that doesn’t look all weird.
Kind of crazy the range drops 40 miles for the bigger wheels
I mean it makes sens, the bigger wheels weigh more. Your range will also drop if you slap bigger wheels on your internal combustion engine car.
@@Daniel-dj7fh Yep. Also the bigger wheels run wider tires which increases rolling resistance... Could be wrong but I suspect the larger contact patch is the bigger factor than the unsprung weight
@@carlmaissan4340 bigger wheels don't always mean wider wheels
@@Daniel-dj7fhThey mean exactly that when it comes to the i4. The 18" wheels are 225mm front and back. The 19" wheels (optioned on the 35/40 or standard on the M50) are 245 in the front and 255 in the back.
I didn't say this can't be the case. I only stated that bigger wheel diameter doesn't always equal to wider wheels/tires needed.
But that the rotation energy needed to accelerate and decelerate alone on bigger wheels will generally cause the mileage to drop@@BogeyTheBear
You can adjust the gauge cluster the exact same as the iX. It does not have the special button like iX as they just reuse the old media button but it now changes the display. Also you also have recent phone in HUD like the radio stations (when you have a phone paired).
Finally a dashboard that’s ridiculously nice wow . That’s nice
If you don’t look the ice appeal of the BMW go get yourself an egg shaped car by that popular EV maker. Personally I like that it looks like a ‘car’ with proper wheels and not plastic hub caps.
Exactly, if I’m spending 60k on a car I don’t want “minimalism.” I want luxury and character. I’ve sat in penalty boxes that were nicer than the Tesla interior.
That’s exactly what a model y and X looks like Eggs on wheels . Two of the ugliest vehicles on the road IMO
@@doomsday9973 They look like a Tamagotchi on wheels 😅 including Model 3
@@TonyTouch23 they really do look ridiculous
But the only reason it looks like an old car is that BMW was late to the party, they thought the EV revolution would take longer so they didn't develop a dedicated EV platform in time (they were early with the first i3 and then dropped the ball because they hired an EV-hating CEO, since fired). So now they have to shove electric drivetrains into ICE cars (trying to keep up with Mercedes, VW etc) and pretend they're the real thing. They'll catch up eventually, I'm sure.
This is a great overview like all of your content. I owned a number of BMW M cars back in the day and used to be a huge fan, but this car makes me realize why I would not buy one now. The word i would use to describe them would be "fiddly" - they just seem to have a lot of extra crap on them - trim, buttons, unnecessary stuff inside, etc. The ridiculous kidneys up front, overall size of the car, and other things are just a turnoff in my eyes. My first Bimmer was an E36 BMW M3 I bought brand new and that was, in my mind, the last real non-complicated BMW. They, in my not so humble opinion, really need to get back to that. If BMW would building something *like* a Tesla but with BMW flair and engineering would be great rather than all this complexity. Also on that theme, since this is an electric car - I would have thought BMW would pay more attention to electric vehicle platform engineering (lightness, simplicity etc) rather than just flinging their standard product packaging at an electric car and seeing what sticks. Still its a give and take - I wish Teslas had real features like these cars, but apparently thats never going to happen. Thanks again - great content.
Previous gen 4series grancoupe (F36) looks better to me...love the shoulder lines of Previous gen..the BIG TEETH is only acceptable on the new M3 Only in my opinion..
wouldn't the new grill also work on the m4?
But I agree, only on the m cars. The lower trimmed 3 and 4 series get horrendous looking grills
@@Daniel-dj7fhit doesn't work well with the m4 or 4series coupe body proportions..in my opinion
@@vindevhunta4905 I've seen an m440i drive around and honestly, as long as the grille is black and not so penetrant it's alright.
That being said, I really hate the yellow color the m3 and m4 are being promoted with
I love speed yellow and Brooklyn grey
I love that Doug is a Phishead. I wonder if he's into the Dead as well?
Drive out to Dick’s this year Doug!
Excellent review. You’re the first reviewer that spent any time demonstrating the 360 camera options. Excellent research prior to filming!
Welcome to the channel