I own one and 3 things pop out on this test. First off, it’s not an electric M car, but should be compared to the M440i instead, which also makes the comparison to the Taycan even more off. Second, the cables. Don’t know if this is a UK thing, but my charge cable is easily stored to the left in the boot and the emergency charger fits fine in the area under the floor. Even with HK sound. Third, I love the steering wheel and I even got small hands!
100% with you on “chunky” steering wheels! So much nicer to use than spindly, narrow horrible ones where your fingers wrap around on themselves. And those that disagree are wrong anyway, proper drivers hold the wheel at 9 O’clock and 3 O’clock
@@stuartclaridge8537100% correct. The steering wheel is supposed to be held at 9 and 3. The big hint is in the button placement, but retarded motor journalists of course can't figure that out.
Yeah, it's a G26 with a battery. It's BMW's electric Band-Aid. The Taycan is on the brand new J1 chassis. The i4 is also 1/2 the price. So, apples to apples, guys. Is is as good as 50% of a Taycan? BTW, what does your rating really mean? Is a 6/10 on a bmw that same as a 6/10 on a Bentley? What car is your baseline 10/10? Or, is it like a dog show where the car is being rated against itself or its breed "carness?" Please clarify.
I am normally not an advocate for EV's but I just saw this car while driving today my god it looks gorgeous in grey! Glad BMW is moving away from the wacky EV Designs of the I3 and I8 I never understood why car makers felt the need to make EV'S look so ugly.
Well love mine, 3 months in and no issues, good range decent enough space for a family, comfortable and I love the looks, feels like an Ice BM. Real world as quick as my mates M3 comp, but agree will be destroyed on the track due to the compromise on weight.
I traded my M3CS for it and I love it. It would destroy the CS in a straight line, but yeah it's not really built for the track like the CS. EV is really cheap to run and convenient with the home charger, it's a beast.
Why if I may ask is this car comparable to a Porsche Taycan it’s around half the money and not even in the same ball park to a Porsche. In its own right it seemed a great car in the real world and compared to a Tesla Model 3 or polestar it’s stunning. Maybe drop M badging and just be a great EV can’t really be compared M powered Petrol surely.
I didn't get the Porsche comparison either! Like you say, it's much cheaper than the Taycan, which is built on a dedicated EV platform whereas the i4 is built on a converted ICE platform. Also, while the Porsche is more agile, the i4 is comfier and more practical. I mean, if you are going to compare two cars, at least mention the pros and cons of both!
Just a couple points... 1st, there is a compartment under the floor in the trunk for cables, so that criticism was pointless. And 2nd, it's not an M car, it's an M-lite, so that's why it doesn't feel quite as sharp as an M car. The full M version is on its way (BMW did a teaser video a few months ago).
This is not a 6/10 car. I own one and clearly a much better car than what these reviewers were saying. I owned an M3 before this and clearly the M3 is better at handling around the corners but for everything else it's almost there. For the price I would take this any day over a taycan. If you get a taycan for this price, please compare it otherwise your review is baseless. Other reviews did a better job. These guys didn't know where to hide the cables and didn't bother to even look at the floor of the boot.
Being a bit generous to the schnoz. I don't hate hate hate it but everytime I start feeling like I'm getting used to it, I ask myself why? It's bad, it's grotesque, there were substantially better solutions available. Even if it fades into the background more, it's not good. That said the G20 3/4 is pretty good otherwise. I think the lower powered model is the one to get, really.
I’m with Vicki on this, drove this, the GV60 Performance, the Polestar 2 Performance and M3 Performance and whilst the BMW immediately felt like my favourite drivers car once I sat in it, it failed to deliver the crisp steering and power delivery the Polestar and Tesla have. Which is really strange.
Just ordered one on salary sacrifice, I take no notice of what these car journos say.. there are so many of them these days they just run out of things to say and just gabble inane shite
If an M4 was only marginally more expensive, I would not consider the i4. But in DK the the i4 M50 is less than half of an M4 due to car taxes. And a Taycan that can match 4 seconds to 100 is same as the M4.
4:40 why is the point of reference for a 4 door saloon the Porsche Taycan? That's a silly reference point, you guys need to review more EVs. This is clearly competing with the Model 3/Y Performance.
I think the sweet spot for this car is the eDrive 40 instead of the M variant. Some TH-camrs have driven both and said that the handling is actually more balanced on the RWD 40.
Seen quite a few of them driving around. If by looks alone that car is definitely on my short list. It looks great and has great presence on the road. I don't think this is the EV equivalent of the M4. If I am not mistaken they are developing the first M3 EV as we speak. I remember a clip with an EV M testcar doing a ridiculous 360.
0:31 & 0:43 This is not the equivalent of the M3/M4, it’s the equivalent of the M430i. That’s why it’s only i4 M50 and not i4M. That’s also why the price is less than M3/M3. You have some wrong information here
I bought mine because it is like a conventional car and I don't like S.U.Vs. The only thing missing for me is a rear wash wiper and it is a pain cancelling the lane correction system before I drive it.
I drive a Tesla Model 3 Performance... and I'm interested in moving to a 'traditional car manufacturer' electric car... but where the hell do I go from here? I'm hoping the BMW i5M will be the one?
What a ridiculous review!! "It's not a Taycan!" No, it's not, A Taycan is nearly twice the price! When reviewing the Electric VW, did anyone say, "Its not an i4 M50"??????
Everything they talk about in this video doesn’t make any sense, I don’t know how people watch this show. I feel like they just want to talk about the car and make a show with no point or idea what they want. And that lady comparing it to Tycan. 😂
Dear Fifth Gear, do you see the irony of maintaining your name while only focusing on bland EV's? Whomever runs the show now are real geniuses. Get rid of Tiff and let's just feature toasters that are not at all viable for the long term of transportation. Bravo!
OK CAN SOME SOMEONE PLES BREAK IT WEEN IT COMES DOWN TO THAT NEW LONG DISPLAY FOR ME? LIKE IT THAT SOMETHING THAT ONLY COMES IN THE M PACKAGE? OR WHAT? PLES LMK THX BECUSE IM LOOKING FOR A NEW BMW
Having recently watched this on TV, I'd be a happy rabbit if they didn't just slap it on here as was, lets have a bit of the stuff they couldn't put on TV please.
@@user-kv7vw6bk2b Fair enough but TV is restrictive, and Plato is a very funny lad as is VBH cept she's a lass (and easy on the eye to) not bothered about the other too, so they could use a lot of the out takes on the TH-cam platform and two separate audiences.
You have to lose Jimmy. Vomming after a road test in a four seater…Really!.. Chris Evans is even laughing at this point. Guys, if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it. 👍
All I remember from driving it is the feeling the scrub of the sidewalls through the steering even under just normal driving. It’s dynamically really bad honestly.
i think you guys need to recalibrate your expectations when driving an EV sports car. due to the very nature of needing more weight (batteries) to produce the power and range required, it's going to be heavier than a standard ICE vehicle, even of the same car. you can't compare handling of an EV to it's ICE variant, or even EV cars to ICE platforms as a whole, because they're apples and oranges. do more like car & driver does, which is compare them against their own kind.
It's severely compromised in an attempt to get an all electric family car in to the market. Wait until they launch their properly-developed, full EV platform in about 18 months time. As this i4 will be worthless by then.
Tesla is a EV in corolla level/quailty, how is that possible after sit and drive both and you still want a Tesla? Guess that is how it made the 40% margin, cheap car try to be a premium rank and sell in a overflow price.
It's not the use of the M badge on this that bothers me. It's the fact the ///M badge is twice the size of the of the 50i part. Every other M version is uniform in size. M3, M4, M340i etc etc. But this has a giant M badge. Sorry, its a no from me.
Poor review. One dimensional. Nothing about the charging, the battery, the range or about daily considerations like ride comfort, refinement etc. utterly pointless.
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Not sure why you have to compare this with £150k Taycan. This is a really good practical car at the right price point.
yeah the i4 is a competitor to the Tesla model 3 not the Porsche taycan.
I was hoping Tiff would pop out of the boot. 😊
#BringTiffBack
I own one and 3 things pop out on this test. First off, it’s not an electric M car, but should be compared to the M440i instead, which also makes the comparison to the Taycan even more off. Second, the cables. Don’t know if this is a UK thing, but my charge cable is easily stored to the left in the boot and the emergency charger fits fine in the area under the floor. Even with HK sound. Third, I love the steering wheel and I even got small hands!
100% with you on “chunky” steering wheels! So much nicer to use than spindly, narrow horrible ones where your fingers wrap around on themselves. And those that disagree are wrong anyway, proper drivers hold the wheel at 9 O’clock and 3 O’clock
@@stuartclaridge8537100% correct. The steering wheel is supposed to be held at 9 and 3. The big hint is in the button placement, but retarded motor journalists of course can't figure that out.
Yeah, it's a G26 with a battery. It's BMW's electric Band-Aid. The Taycan is on the brand new J1 chassis. The i4 is also 1/2 the price. So, apples to apples, guys. Is is as good as 50% of a Taycan?
BTW, what does your rating really mean? Is a 6/10 on a bmw that same as a 6/10 on a Bentley? What car is your baseline 10/10? Or, is it like a dog show where the car is being rated against itself or its breed "carness?" Please clarify.
I'd say it's 90% of the taycan! it's cool, fast, and you can actually take your family in it for a longer trip.
I am normally not an advocate for EV's but I just saw this car while driving today my god it looks gorgeous in grey! Glad BMW is moving away from the wacky EV Designs of the I3 and I8 I never understood why car makers felt the need to make EV'S look so ugly.
Well to be fair the i8 is gorgeous, but I get your point. 1 million percent agree.
Time to get your eyes checked if you think this beaver toothed BMW looks good 😂
Tiff and Johnny Smith need to come back.
Shoutout to Fifth Gear and Vicki for being around since the Top Gear days and for that thank you lol
Well love mine, 3 months in and no issues, good range decent enough space for a family, comfortable and I love the looks, feels like an Ice BM. Real world as quick as my mates M3 comp, but agree will be destroyed on the track due to the compromise on weight.
Got 1 coming mid march, thanks for getting me excited 😊 !!
I mean no disrespect, but it just can't feel like a ICE BMW when it doesn't make any engine or exhaust sound.
Mine keeps getting delayed and delayed, the wait is killing me
I traded my M3CS for it and I love it. It would destroy the CS in a straight line, but yeah it's not really built for the track like the CS. EV is really cheap to run and convenient with the home charger, it's a beast.
@@colinb6704 madness imo, but I'm glad you enjoy your i4.
Why if I may ask is this car comparable to a Porsche Taycan it’s around half the money and not even in the same ball park to a Porsche. In its own right it seemed a great car in the real world and compared to a Tesla Model 3 or polestar it’s stunning. Maybe drop M badging and just be a great EV can’t really be compared M powered Petrol surely.
I didn't get the Porsche comparison either! Like you say, it's much cheaper than the Taycan, which is built on a dedicated EV platform whereas the i4 is built on a converted ICE platform.
Also, while the Porsche is more agile, the i4 is comfier and more practical. I mean, if you are going to compare two cars, at least mention the pros and cons of both!
Taycan range is pathetic too, I think the i4 does 100 miles more so it's bound to be heavier.
A basic Tycan with some additions to make it similar to the M50 can be as low as £82k compared to the £73k M50.
Good point. If they want to compare a BMW EV to a Porsche Taycan, they need to test a BMW i7 which has comparable price point and performance.
Just a couple points... 1st, there is a compartment under the floor in the trunk for cables, so that criticism was pointless. And 2nd, it's not an M car, it's an M-lite, so that's why it doesn't feel quite as sharp as an M car. The full M version is on its way (BMW did a teaser video a few months ago).
Bring back Tiff
This is not a 6/10 car. I own one and clearly a much better car than what these reviewers were saying. I owned an M3 before this and clearly the M3 is better at handling around the corners but for everything else it's almost there. For the price I would take this any day over a taycan. If you get a taycan for this price, please compare it otherwise your review is baseless. Other reviews did a better job. These guys didn't know where to hide the cables and didn't bother to even look at the floor of the boot.
Being a bit generous to the schnoz. I don't hate hate hate it but everytime I start feeling like I'm getting used to it, I ask myself why? It's bad, it's grotesque, there were substantially better solutions available. Even if it fades into the background more, it's not good. That said the G20 3/4 is pretty good otherwise. I think the lower powered model is the one to get, really.
I’m with Vicki on this, drove this, the GV60 Performance, the Polestar 2 Performance and M3 Performance and whilst the BMW immediately felt like my favourite drivers car once I sat in it, it failed to deliver the crisp steering and power delivery the Polestar and Tesla have. Which is really strange.
Just ordered one on salary sacrifice, I take no notice of what these car journos say.. there are so many of them these days they just run out of things to say and just gabble inane shite
Vikki and Jason are great. The other two are so dull
I miss Tiff. 😊
Bring tiff back
Bring tiff back keep plato R. D and keep lady henderson
British institution.... Where the hell our Jonny smith
Bring back Tiff and Jonny
They replaced Tiff for paint drying.
If an M4 was only marginally more expensive, I would not consider the i4. But in DK the the i4 M50 is less than half of an M4 due to car taxes. And a Taycan that can match 4 seconds to 100 is same as the M4.
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BRING BACK TIFF!!!
I love the team test!
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. One of my favorite BMW Models. Vick and Jason are brilliant
4:40 why is the point of reference for a 4 door saloon the Porsche Taycan? That's a silly reference point, you guys need to review more EVs. This is clearly competing with the Model 3/Y Performance.
I think the sweet spot for this car is the eDrive 40 instead of the M variant. Some TH-camrs have driven both and said that the handling is actually more balanced on the RWD 40.
Too slow
@@WeAreObject stop talking bollocks. the e40 is still 0-60 in 5 seconds (BMW was underestimating their own car) who needs to be faster than that?
Seen quite a few of them driving around. If by looks alone that car is definitely on my short list. It looks great and has great presence on the road. I don't think this is the EV equivalent of the M4. If I am not mistaken they are developing the first M3 EV as we speak. I remember a clip with an EV M testcar doing a ridiculous 360.
You need to wash your eyes out! 😂🥴🤮
Be a man and buy an m4 instead
Looks great? Looking different shouldn't be confused with looking good
@devanman7920 And you shouldn't confuse your opinion and taste with my opinion and taste.
0:31 & 0:43 This is not the equivalent of the M3/M4, it’s the equivalent of the M430i. That’s why it’s only i4 M50 and not i4M. That’s also why the price is less than M3/M3. You have some wrong information here
new to channel but do you always do your test drives carrying around 1000lbs of human cargo?
4:13 "Can you tell that it's half a ton heavier?" 😅
This looks waaaay better than the new i5
Three cats and a mouse comes to mind... Lol. Fantastic as always!
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Poor tiff
I bought mine because it is like a conventional car and I don't like S.U.Vs. The only thing missing for me is a rear wash wiper and it is a pain cancelling the lane correction system before I drive it.
You are not correct with the cables. One is to keep home for charging. The other goes into the right pocket.
How can you test drive and give honest opinions especially about handling with 4 dumb adults in a car.
The i4 M Sport is a better package overall in terms of range, handling and performance.
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Great video. One request: It's 2024.. can we please get videos in 4K? :)
I've been a fan for years!
No Tiff no Love
Taycan is not the same class. Why don't you compare bananas to kiwi in your next episode? That will be helpful. Thanks.
BMW grill is nicer, than the one found on Audi´s nowadays
I drive a Tesla Model 3 Performance... and I'm interested in moving to a 'traditional car manufacturer' electric car... but where the hell do I go from here?
I'm hoping the BMW i5M will be the one?
I miss Tiff!
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I drove this for 2 hours and it was sensational on all roads
The range and it not being on a dedicated EV platform is the problem. Id wait for those two aspects to be fixed.
Cables are what they are. Might want to put a mat or something back there with some grips on it so they won’t slide around.
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My i4 has two compartments in the boot large enough for both sets of cables
There is also storage under the flat area in the trunk /boot, and you don't really need to carry them anyway as every charging station has a cable
What a ridiculous review!!
"It's not a Taycan!"
No, it's not, A Taycan is nearly twice the price!
When reviewing the Electric VW, did anyone say, "Its not an i4 M50"??????
Don’t worry, if someone gave me one, I’d love it.
Thats what she said.
Porshe tycan I 3 times more expensive
My attitude to the front is: I don't hate the grille, but I can't argue with anyone who does.
Recharge EV in the morning talk about range and charge times to co worker then plate of crickets & tofu for work lunch .
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Everything they talk about in this video doesn’t make any sense, I don’t know how people watch this show. I feel like they just want to talk about the car and make a show with no point or idea what they want. And that lady comparing it to Tycan. 😂
They charge really slowly when attempting repeated fast charging. Nice looking car though :)
Dear Fifth Gear, do you see the irony of maintaining your name while only focusing on bland EV's?
Whomever runs the show now are real geniuses. Get rid of Tiff and let's just feature toasters that are not at all viable for the long term of transportation. Bravo!
Why is everyone banging on about the bloody front grill on the BMW?There’s nothing wrong with it!
Testing performance with 4 people in he car 🤦♂️. “It feels heavy”.
Harry's Garage wasn't a fan of this motor.
yet everyone else is...
80 kW battery? Unusual way of rating a battery...
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*Looks directly at cable storage compartment
“Why is there nowhere to put them”
OK CAN SOME SOMEONE PLES BREAK IT WEEN IT COMES DOWN TO THAT NEW LONG DISPLAY FOR ME? LIKE IT THAT SOMETHING THAT ONLY COMES IN THE M PACKAGE? OR WHAT? PLES LMK THX BECUSE IM LOOKING FOR A NEW BMW
I comes in all vers of an i4 regardless of package
Having recently watched this on TV, I'd be a happy rabbit if they didn't just slap it on here as was, lets have a bit of the stuff they couldn't put on TV please.
I don’t watch tv so I suppose it’s better it on here for people like me
@@user-kv7vw6bk2b Fair enough but TV is restrictive, and Plato is a very funny lad as is VBH cept she's a lass (and easy on the eye to) not bothered about the other too, so they could use a lot of the out takes on the TH-cam platform and two separate audiences.
Awful picture quality. Looks like 720P that's then been upscaled to 1080i (yes, interlaced), then converted back to 1080P. It's a total mess.
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It's broadcast in standard definition ( on Quest ) so you might be correct
Bring Tiff back!!!
There is space under the boot floor for the cables.
not if you have the premium sound system.
And if you _don't_ have a subwoofer mounted in the bin under the trunk, _you have a bin under the trunk._
@@BogeyTheBear ours has the subwoofer in there and space for a charging cable.
You have to lose Jimmy.
Vomming after a road test in a four seater…Really!..
Chris Evans is even laughing at this point.
Guys, if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it. 👍
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I'd watch this program if they changed all the presenters.
Why not test drove it without the extra 500lbs of human passengers?
What I thought when they complained about a lack of agility.... and more like 600 lbs :-)
Car reviewers alway complain about the thickness of bmws steering wheels.
Every bmw owner I know loves the fat steering wheels.
This is not supposed to be an M car. It's an M perfomance Version. Cannot compare it to an M3/4. But to an M340i...
Audio is very quiet..!!
This car handles its mass like a Buick Roadmaster Wagon. I would end up in the rhubarb.
All I remember from driving it is the feeling the scrub of the sidewalls through the steering even under just normal driving. It’s dynamically really bad honestly.
Their opinions became invalid as soon as they said that cars good looking.
So glad they've got Karun. Knows his shit
Never seen him before but he seems good
@@the-boring-car-guy He's an ex formula 1 driver
@@the-boring-car-guy He's been on the programme for a while
If BMW was smart… make a Dakar version of this drivetrain
3.4 seconds is the actual number
A lil tip you all need to make longer videos, 10-15 mjns is sweet spot
Bring back Tiff, whoever made the changes needs to be sacked.
Harry Metcalfe said it was one of the 3 worst cars he drove last year and if was the future of EV's, he is checking out.
VBH 👌
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i think you guys need to recalibrate your expectations when driving an EV sports car. due to the very nature of needing more weight (batteries) to produce the power and range required, it's going to be heavier than a standard ICE vehicle, even of the same car. you can't compare handling of an EV to it's ICE variant, or even EV cars to ICE platforms as a whole, because they're apples and oranges. do more like car & driver does, which is compare them against their own kind.
Why's he in a half tee when everyone else is warmly dressed?
Portimao is pronounced with a cow type sound not mayo...
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that charging seems slow,, the ioniq 6 does the same in 18 mins
Why’s everyone aged except Vikki
That’s so funny I’m I tears
It's not talking to me like a Porsche Taycan does because guess what. It ain't a Porsche Taycan. Baseless and slightly annoying comment.
It's severely compromised in an attempt to get an all electric family car in to the market. Wait until they launch their properly-developed, full EV platform in about 18 months time. As this i4 will be worthless by then.
Tesla is a EV in corolla level/quailty, how is that possible after sit and drive both and you still want a Tesla? Guess that is how it made the 40% margin, cheap car try to be a premium rank and sell in a overflow price.
Girl smile like giant😂
It's not the use of the M badge on this that bothers me.
It's the fact the ///M badge is twice the size of the of the 50i part. Every other M version is uniform in size. M3, M4, M340i etc etc. But this has a giant M badge.
Sorry, its a no from me.
Yeah. Badge size has always been a total deal breaker for me. That and wheel nut texture.
@@kadoelen-uz2oe I'm glad you understand the importance of such details.
Great car, compare to 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performace..... Slower, bad tech, sad cameras.
i will stick with my 1982 E28 thank you
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Horrible review. Who cares how it handles on the track. 9 3/4 out of 10 people will never take their car to a track
What a pointless review, comparing to a 150k Porsche
Poor review. One dimensional. Nothing about the charging, the battery, the range or about daily considerations like ride comfort, refinement etc. utterly pointless.
The etron looks loads better.
Ok but the Enron competes with the BMW iX not this.
it's twice the price and a different segment...
Get tiff back
Another boring saloon. Another boring SUV next…
Still hate the face. Bmw keep making cars that look terrible.
What happened to this show?!?! 🤢
… live from India?! 🤦🏻♂️
What an ugly looking front end. What on earth were BMW designers thinking of?
Thx but no thx…