Yeah the wait times are crazy but well worth it. Ordered my plaid X in Nov 2021 to be delivered around Oct 2022 but got a notification that time line was pushed up to my surprise.. I’m getting it between July and august now .. so very excited to have SUV that smacks stock lambo’s and Ferrari into yesterday’s trash .. and oh yes rated only 6.5 by CD (paid off pansies with an agenda)
The Model S may not LOOK new from the ground up, but if you follow Sandy Monro's excellent channel, which strips these cars down to the bare frame and discusses the engineering of the vehicles, you'll know that the current Model S has been systematically re- engineered from its initial version. It's a completely different and cutting edge car under the skin. The only thing Sandy found to criticise about the Model S was the doors that still use original and outdated assembly techniques. I think that sums up TESLA'S approach to product development. Build a vehicle aimed at a particular market segment that, from the very start, is as aerodynamically efficient as possible, then regularly upgrade the engineering to keep it cutting edge while maintaining the original, highly efficient shape. Almost by definition, a vehicle optimised for aerodynamic efficiency has a basic shape and, therefore, external look, that can't be changed anywhere near as rapidly or extensively as the interior design or the underlying engineering.
From Tesla's viewpoint, it's a happy problem to have. From the customer's viewpoint, 'Good things come to those who wait.' Those people who _really_ want those cars will wait. Others will buy elsewhere; hopefully a different Tesla car. But, ultimately, it doesn't really matter if they buy from a competitor, because Musk will have achieved his stated goal; that of encouraging more people to drive BEV's and to stop driving their mobile smokestacks.
I’ve ordered the model X back in Oct 2021 and yes I just got pushed back from July to October I don’t think prioritizing 3 and Y’s due to price is not the issue as my model X totaled $120,000. Long range FSD cream interior 6 seater. I’m sure at $120,000 Tesla is making plenty of money on each Model X. I currently own a 2016 m X it is the finest car I’ve ever owned I can only imagine how much nicer the new model will be.
Tesla not making enough ? or Tesla not keeping its commitments? a queue to get something isn't supposed to get slower just because it gets longer behind you.
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Model S and X are made on a different line than the model 3 and Y cars. They also use different battery cells (18650 and not 2170). So no idea why the ramp isn't going great. The S and X also we're the top models for gross profit margin. The slight reduction of range of the S and X could be due to the Ryzen MCUs. That's what can be found on the internet, so it must be true. Maybe there will be some info on the S and X in the next conference call in July.
I think Tesla should stop production of M3 & Model Y at the Fremont plant. Open those lines for extra capacity for the S & Y. Then build another plant ( extra than Austin plant) in the US for more 3 & Y models.
Tesla 'claimed' mine would be ready end of 2022 but I doubt it. I need a 7 seater EV with ease of charging through supercharging network. I want to drive with the yoke. I used to think driving with a clutch would never go away... Now EVs have one gear. Petrol guzzling until then 😱
Same thing I need. I've heard people settling for a 6 seater in order to get the car sooner. I can't afford do that because it's literally 7 of us in our family. So 7 seater or no deal. Unfortunately, seems like we'll wait forever for it.
@@YahyaRivero It will be worth the wait. The last dream car I got excited about was a maintenance nightmare and glad I didn't buy it (Mazda Spirit R RX-7). The Model X will be efficient, practical, high tech and I even chucked in FSD in the hopes that autonomy will be ticked in my lifetime
I have a model X on order since June of 2021, delivery changed 4 or 5 times and is now April 2023. What you are missing here is that the only variant being made is the 6 passenger. Mine is a 5 passenger and they haven't made these yet according to the Tesla employee in Fremont that I spoke with. They have made and delivered 6 seat versions only.?
The "6 seat only" Model X configuration is a good point that I think the Viking missed. The war in Ukraine is causing more parts & supply shortages, too. I am keeping my ICE vehicles running perfectly, they are well on the way to 200k miles each. Next year in 2023 I could get an Aptera & a Cybertruck or neither. The latter being a rental and not replacing a car anyway. There simply aren't enough EV's for everyone who wants one!
The Toyota and Lexus yoke is not the same as Tesla. It comes with steer by wire with continuously variable gearing ratios which basically reduces lock to lock by more thank two and minimises driver input / adjustment whilst improving dynamics. Teslas yoke is just a different style of steering and that’s why it’s been criticised.
It's so weird to me that Tesla wouldn't nail down the yoke experience before releasing it. This gives me worries that Elon really is just forcing engineers to put products out before they're ready. I love what Tesla is doing so it's frustrating when they make unforced errors.
The battery of an EV is so heavy that it's equal to the weight of six adults that's before the real passengers sit in. The US government will "surprisingly" announce later the repair cost of roads and bridges have tripled because of the impact the millions of EVs have had on the infrastructure. FUN FACT: If we take the extra weight to be 25% of Telsa model S thats 500 kilograms or more than 1200 lb which is the weight of SIX Americans adults on diet 🤣🤣🤣
These are low volume cars...... peak of 27K in 2018 (corrected).....so I would suspect priorities lie elsewhere beyond the X. Demand, in absolute terms, is very low.
What 4k? How can that be...tesla investor press release listed 14,724 S and X built in Q1 2022. I can't believe production is biased that much to S in that # for Q1.
@@bradenruggeri2108 Sorry, I stand corrected. Best year was 2018 with roughly 27K sold. Still, relatively low volume for a manufacturer selling 1M/year. I would still guess internal priorities favor MY/M3 pushing MX down the attention list.
@@joemartino6976 Yea, the volume stuff is still the bread and butter you're right. We'll see this play out just as is until maybe CT comes online if I had to guess then it will be the 3,Y and CT show. Take care Joe.
There IS good news! We ordered a model X in April 2021. The expected delivery date changed many times (we lost count) until it settled on July 2022 where it stayed for quite some time. Then, about 2 weeks ago it changed to Dec 2022 - April 2023. I talked with several people at Tesla and one person said to wait a couple of weeks and check for another update. Sure enough, two days ago the website updated our delivery date to July 7 - August 18. So, I'm not sure what happened, but am wondering if others have seen similar updates.
Sure..all the tech in EV's is wonderful..but given what's been going on in the news lately, I DOUBT that the world will become a better place. Sure, the air may be cleaner because of EV's, but human behavior is STILL crappy..so, that's why the world is a truly messed up place now, despite the promise that EV's and renewables hold.
Cities in the US have way too much parking. Empty parking lots everywhere. Making it harder to build housing, ride bikes, and use transit. Just one of the many headwinds to a better world, among them farming practices and economic choices. All decided by fiat. All to prop up profit & power. All could be changed overnight if democracy showed up at the homes of the elite.
One more symptom of the broader problem of not having enough EV's for the market, which includes rental companies now. Only good news is more people are obsessively maintaining ICE cars because they realize how valuable they are. I think various global suppliers are still caught up with shortages, now from Ukraine. The timelines get pushed back because production remains at a fixed rate instead of increasing. One comment mentioned not being able to get parts to repair the Model X he already owns. Years of disinvestment in US manufacturing has come home to roost. A lot of people in the US (especially here in Michigan, where we watch factories close) have been talking about this for years, of the corporate sellout of tools & machines to China and lack of manufacturing & skilled trades education.
Polestar GGPI merger vote is now set for 22nd June with a merger deadline of June 24th. This should help the stock rise as the merger date gets nearer. Polestar has a $7500 EV tax credit advantage over Tesla and GM. Polestar is owned by Volvo & Geely. The Polestar 3 SUV will be built in the US at one of the Volvo factories in late 2022.
Delivery date changes has nothing to do with popularity. Date changes are a Failure to accurately predict production. Unpredictable supply chain delays could account for a couple slips.
First, Elon said a year or more ago that Tesla would stop making Model X, supposedly because it’s too complicated. They get more credit on their quarterly reports making 3’s and Y’s. Also, Tesla is probably diverting parts to the M3 and MY lines and creating a false part shortage for the MX.
I still would have an X if I could afford one, just spent two days In your home town, Melbourne. The wife loved the shopping, LOL. Got a charge at mooney pond, nice. Great vid Viking, you must not sleep much a lot of vids.
The Falcon doors are what caused a major delay when they were first going into production. These fancy doors have been a headache for years. It was not that long ago Tesla said they were having issues getting parts for the Falcon doors. Tesla would be wise to offer a Model X without Falcon doors. It could be a lower cost alternative to the Model X and will likely be easier for them to keep up with demand. Making sure the Y and 3 are meeting demand is the key to their future. As volume increases on Y and 3, so do profit margins. Combine demand with price and the Y and 3 will make the most money for Tesla, so it makes sense. We keep hearing how GM is trying to roll out dozens of new EV models over the next few years, but that is actually a bad plan. If you design and product a couple of models that nail a large market segment, that is going to get a better ROI than making dozens of models. It is among the reasons I say GM has possibly the worst leadership of any major builder and will likely fail the switch to EVs. GM as a brand may live for decades, if they get bought out. On their own, they will likely die of by 2035 without government bail outs. As far as the yoke, Tesla should have had it nailed at low speed use. It sounds like software updates are going to fix or have fixed the issues with the steering yolk at low speed. As more builders add it to their products, people will get use to the yolk.
The A pillar and windshield got bashed in on my X plaid by a crazy homeless person. They are telling be 6 months before they can get parts to fix it....
At least, the good side... is I think better quality models and higher battery specs will happen in the next year or two... so those who wait will be rewarded... and it's only fair...
Tesla needs to keep these higher end variants. As a current Tesla 2016 Model S owner I am not interested in the 3 or the Y. If Tesla cancelled the S and X I would move on to Mercedes or Lucid or some higher and vehicle.
And ship the majority to the US!? Sound very logical. At least if the build ut in Shanghai they would guarantee quality finish and lower cost if production but the duty is the game changer.
@@dstr1 The most expensive cars and the smallest batch runs. It would give Indonesia an auto line and a channel for Tesla to ship out finished batteries on the side for the real profit. The cherry on top would be that only the elite of the elite in India could afford to buy one since Indonesia is not closed to India like China is.
@@dstr1 Between sales in Australia, India, China, and Europe, building Model S & X at both Fremont *and* Indonesia would actually make sense. Every Tesla they ship begets another sale. They will never keep up with global demand unless they can build an Asian supply chain for S & X. If Fremont runs slow with US & Canadian orders, there's the whole rest of both American continents.
Elon has said they blew the X & S ramp. I think that they misunderstood the power of their own insights embodied in Master Plan Part 1. Build the Roadster to make the money to fund X & S so they can in turn use that money to fund the Y & 3, then an affordable Model. Arguably they have made good on the all but last stage there. Working their way through the goals is fair. It seems like they misunderstood it though. It is as if they were sloppy in thinking this to be a bit like a video game where you achieve a goal and move on. Tesla ought to have continued with building the high end cars, increasing their price and margins until they fully achieved their goals. They ought to have continued increasing price and building them until the market itself pushed back by leaving them with inventory. Then they build a few limited editions while lowering prices, eventually production. My take right now is they ought to go about doing this! And not just for the Model X & S, the Roadster too. Update them all to front & rear gigacastings with structural packs, maybe even doing the Roadster in 1 casting. Call that a 1.5 version, leaving 2.0 for whatever rocketry they may want to add for later. Consider that a Roadster 1.5, up against cars commanding many multiples of millions USD, could in turn command much more than the volume 1.0 did, they would make truly nosebleeding amounts of profits-margins. I'd use space in GigaAustin to design X, S, & Roaster lines that would transfer to Fremont. This is so Fremont can continue with their current production makeup. Once they get those initial cars rolling out, and Model Y & 3 are zipping along at GigaAustin, then swap out 3 & Y from Fremont, set up the newly designed production lines for the X, S & Roadster. GigaAustin can take on producing all of the 3 & Y in NA, until GigaFlint is up and going. Fremont focuses on X, S & Roadster.
As for changing body styles look no further than the Iconic VW Beetle ran for over 50 years with the same basic body style and drive line. VW sold millions of them.
Not a word about production rate. That's rich. The yoke is a joke, fair enough that Tesla fanbois eats from their masters mouth, but for everyone else it's plain stupidity to take away the choice for the buyers. Only Tesla can offer drift mode, and then a yoke which makes it impossible to control the vehicle when drifting...
Yoke is the a joke indeed 😳 I think there's an option whereby you can put a steering wheel on. I am not sure. 😎 By now there should be some aftermarket Parts exclusive for Tesla vehicles. 🤷🏻
Model X sales numbers shows exactly what is expected, it's never been huge demand unlike the M3 and MY... Even the models S is the same as the X it's a $140k or more car, that's a limited market for sales and sales growth... Also the X didn't make SUVs cool.....lmfao Get that euro trash thinking out of here.....smfh
Toyota's yoke steering: "Lock-to-lock is set at around 150 degrees, eliminating the need to change grips when steering, greatly reducing the burden on the driver for U-turn, garage parking, and on winding roads." I know some Tesla drivers are forming the bad habit of one handed steering.
Toyota has been using drive-by -wire for years so they can easily decide the number of revs lock to lock by just manipulating the software. Tesla still has mechanical steering gear. So it's a a little more complicated to do so.
I bet the problem is the 4680 batteries ramp-up. I do not know if I am correct, my feeling is that the mass fabrication proved to be complete another problem than prototyping - development. Furthermore, I like the yoke steer wheel.
Yes, the yoke matters. Firstly, it was a solution to a problem that didn’t exist, for the sake of style and because of some people’s desire to pretend they are driving an F1 car. I drive a lot, and I have had the need to respond quickly at times to avoid an accident (every time successful). My first hand experience in those kinds of situations tells me that the missing real estate on the yoke can be problematic in an emergency situation, where instantaneous responses are necessary, one may not have the time to think about where they can put their hands and where they can’t. It hasn’t been tested in those kinds of situations, and everybody who says they like it admits to not having to yet use it in an emergency situation, when I have asked. Fortunately emergencies are relatively rare. Unfortunately, they can be quite devastating when they do happen, especially if a quirk and a whim from an eccentric CEO leaves you with a car that inadvertently has you grabbing a handful of air when you’re attempting to avoid a premature demise. The yoke should be optional. Everybody wins that way. It’s only logical. And that’s the next reason why it matters, people expect logical thinking from Elon, and it’s a little disappointing when we see this kind of thinking that he has demonstrated on the yoke situation.
I have the plaid been driving with yolk since December there's a learning curve but not as bad as u think. Thr biggest learning curve was getting the regen braking right and learning where the blinker is for left and right. Not sure if you've driven with the yolk for any long period of time but it's decent and super comfortable on long trips
@@davidwollpert5276 are you talking about your post ? I read east you had to say you think it's more about style than function it's actually about both the yolk allows you to see the instrument panel I get where your coming from though about wanting it to be optional a choice would be fine. A regular steering wheel would obstruct the screen in front of the yolk would be the only issue besides once you drive with it a but it becomes 2nd nature and u would be grabbing at any air in an emergency because muscle memory kicks in after a about 1k or so of driving I've got about 5k on the car I have a pickup truck with a regular wheel thst feels antiquated now after driving with the yolk for a bit. I've rambled enough have a great morning
@@awilson1193 well my post was about the danger of the yoke in an emergency situation. And you replied with comments about how it kind of seems OK to you, as you’ve been using it for a while. So we are talking about two different things. Sure, it’s fine if you’re just driving around casually, never having to use it in a very specific, rapid and extreme way. But that’s not the issue. You could put practically anything on the steering shaft and it would work fine under those conditions. However, when push comes to shove and you have react quickly and with maximum control, in an extreme steering situation, the yoke can very easily become a problem, that could yield catastrophic results.
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@@bluecollardisruptor9584 I believe EVs are the future and I'm gonna get one but I'm in no hurry, I'll get one 6 years from now. The battery technology should level out , there should be a lot more *Charge uP stations* sprinkled throughout America. "Range Anxiety" will be a thing of the past. And now they got that 4.0 chip. .
@@222INFINITY you pretty much have unlimited range. I wouldn't want to drive more that 5 hours without a car and personal recharge. With plenty of cheap good used solar solar panels in Australia, there's no need to rely on fossil fuels for your off grid cabin. With 5kW of PV you can store 30kWh in your car a day and if it supports V2H, or even V2L you can run most appliances at night.
The model s is balling its eyes out for an update change. All the running gear doesn't need changing but the ford torus design should give way to zonda type design.
But yoke has no both wheel top and wheel bottom, so yoke is still a joke to me. Hand/hands are on the wheel top but arm/arms are not on the horn, so airbag will not attack the arm/arms.
Tesla needs to have a gigafactory dedicated to Model X and cybertruck, and five more each dedicated to Model S, Model 3 and Model YI. I think that if they could crank out six to eight million vehicles total per year, in about ten years they will catch up with current demand.
@@AI_HQ I keep thinking that maybe he knows something the rest of us don't. At the same time, Twitter is not a done deal yet. Still a bunch of protests and pending lawsuits on that deal. Also Securities and Exchange is looking at it real hard. Not being a Psychic (I'm just a Rough Guesser ), I'll leave those pronouncements to the Professional Prognosticators.
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> My Beemer salivates anytime it sees or hears C&D, whats up with that?
Yeah the wait times are crazy but well worth it. Ordered my plaid X in Nov 2021 to be delivered around Oct 2022 but got a notification that time line was pushed up to my surprise.. I’m getting it between July and august now .. so very excited to have SUV that smacks stock lambo’s and Ferrari into yesterday’s trash .. and oh yes rated only 6.5 by CD (paid off pansies with an agenda)
The Model S may not LOOK new from the ground up, but if you follow Sandy Monro's excellent channel, which strips these cars down to the bare frame and discusses the engineering of the vehicles, you'll know that the current Model S has been systematically re- engineered from its initial version. It's a completely different and cutting edge car under the skin.
The only thing Sandy found to criticise about the Model S was the doors that still use original and outdated assembly techniques.
I think that sums up TESLA'S approach to product development. Build a vehicle aimed at a particular market segment that, from the very start, is as aerodynamically efficient as possible, then regularly upgrade the engineering to keep it cutting edge while maintaining the original, highly efficient shape.
Almost by definition, a vehicle optimised for aerodynamic efficiency has a basic shape and, therefore, external look, that can't be changed anywhere near as rapidly or extensively as the interior design or the underlying engineering.
From Tesla's viewpoint, it's a happy problem to have. From the customer's viewpoint, 'Good things come to those who wait.' Those people who _really_ want those cars will wait. Others will buy elsewhere; hopefully a different Tesla car. But, ultimately, it doesn't really matter if they buy from a competitor, because Musk will have achieved his stated goal; that of encouraging more people to drive BEV's and to stop driving their mobile smokestacks.
I’ve ordered the model X back in Oct 2021 and yes I just got pushed back from July to October I don’t think prioritizing 3 and Y’s due to price is not the issue as my model X totaled $120,000. Long range FSD cream interior 6 seater. I’m sure at $120,000 Tesla is making plenty of money on each Model X. I currently own a 2016 m X it is the finest car I’ve ever owned I can only imagine how much nicer the new model will be.
Tesla not making enough ? or Tesla not keeping its commitments? a queue to get something isn't supposed to get slower just because it gets longer behind you.
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I have one on order since last October. They still show a July delivery and it hasn’t changed. They called once to say only 6 seat option.
Delays and more delays is Tesla’s middle name. Don’t even bother us with the delayed Roadster and Semi.
Model X Plaid is arguably the best and most interesting car on sale in the World right now.
Model S and X are made on a different line than the model 3 and Y cars. They also use different battery cells (18650 and not 2170). So no idea why the ramp isn't going great. The S and X also we're the top models for gross profit margin.
The slight reduction of range of the S and X could be due to the Ryzen MCUs. That's what can be found on the internet, so it must be true. Maybe there will be some info on the S and X in the next conference call in July.
I think Tesla should stop production of M3 & Model Y at the Fremont plant. Open those lines for extra capacity for the S & Y. Then build another plant ( extra than Austin plant) in the US for more 3 & Y models.
I have a Model X with FSD beta. It the best and smartest vehicle I ever owned. It’s well worth the wait.
I get my Plaid X next week :)
And how is it?
Munro said, Model X is better than the S
Why long delivery not about model x
Tesla 'claimed' mine would be ready end of 2022 but I doubt it. I need a 7 seater EV with ease of charging through supercharging network. I want to drive with the yoke. I used to think driving with a clutch would never go away... Now EVs have one gear. Petrol guzzling until then 😱
Same thing I need. I've heard people settling for a 6 seater in order to get the car sooner. I can't afford do that because it's literally 7 of us in our family. So 7 seater or no deal. Unfortunately, seems like we'll wait forever for it.
@@YahyaRivero It will be worth the wait. The last dream car I got excited about was a maintenance nightmare and glad I didn't buy it (Mazda Spirit R RX-7).
The Model X will be efficient, practical, high tech and I even chucked in FSD in the hopes that autonomy will be ticked in my lifetime
I have a model X on order since June of 2021, delivery changed 4 or 5 times and is now April 2023. What you are missing here is that the only variant being made is the 6 passenger. Mine is a 5 passenger and they haven't made these yet according to the Tesla employee in Fremont that I spoke with. They have made and delivered 6 seat versions only.?
The "6 seat only" Model X configuration is a good point that I think the Viking missed. The war in Ukraine is causing more parts & supply shortages, too. I am keeping my ICE vehicles running perfectly, they are well on the way to 200k miles each. Next year in 2023 I could get an Aptera & a Cybertruck or neither. The latter being a rental and not replacing a car anyway. There simply aren't enough EV's for everyone who wants one!
I just got my five seater. Three weeks from order to delivery. Must have been a glitch in the system?
The Toyota and Lexus yoke is not the same as Tesla. It comes with steer by wire with continuously variable gearing ratios which basically reduces lock to lock by more thank two and minimises driver input / adjustment whilst improving dynamics. Teslas yoke is just a different style of steering and that’s why it’s been criticised.
It's so weird to me that Tesla wouldn't nail down the yoke experience before releasing it. This gives me worries that Elon really is just forcing engineers to put products out before they're ready. I love what Tesla is doing so it's frustrating when they make unforced errors.
The battery of an EV is so heavy that it's equal to the weight of six adults that's before the real passengers sit in. The US government will "surprisingly" announce later the repair cost of roads and bridges have tripled because of the impact the millions of EVs have had on the infrastructure.
FUN FACT:
If we take the extra weight to be 25% of Telsa model S thats 500 kilograms or more than 1200 lb which is the weight of SIX Americans adults on diet 🤣🤣🤣
These are low volume cars...... peak of 27K in 2018 (corrected).....so I would suspect priorities lie elsewhere beyond the X. Demand, in absolute terms, is very low.
What 4k? How can that be...tesla investor press release listed 14,724 S and X built in Q1 2022. I can't believe production is biased that much to S in that # for Q1.
@@bradenruggeri2108 Sorry, I stand corrected. Best year was 2018 with roughly 27K sold. Still, relatively low volume for a manufacturer selling 1M/year. I would still guess internal priorities favor MY/M3 pushing MX down the attention list.
@@joemartino6976 Yea, the volume stuff is still the bread and butter you're right. We'll see this play out just as is until maybe CT comes online if I had to guess then it will be the 3,Y and CT show. Take care Joe.
There IS good news! We ordered a model X in April 2021. The expected delivery date changed many times (we lost count) until it settled on July 2022 where it stayed for quite some time. Then, about 2 weeks ago it changed to Dec 2022 - April 2023. I talked with several people at Tesla and one person said to wait a couple of weeks and check for another update. Sure enough, two days ago the website updated our delivery date to July 7 - August 18. So, I'm not sure what happened, but am wondering if others have seen similar updates.
I would love the X its the tesla for me .
Sure..all the tech in EV's is wonderful..but given what's been going on in the news lately, I DOUBT that the world will become a better place. Sure, the air may be cleaner because of EV's, but human behavior is STILL crappy..so, that's why the world is a truly messed up place now, despite the promise that EV's and renewables hold.
Cities in the US have way too much parking. Empty parking lots everywhere. Making it harder to build housing, ride bikes, and use transit. Just one of the many headwinds to a better world, among them farming practices and economic choices. All decided by fiat. All to prop up profit & power. All could be changed overnight if democracy showed up at the homes of the elite.
One more symptom of the broader problem of not having enough EV's for the market, which includes rental companies now. Only good news is more people are obsessively maintaining ICE cars because they realize how valuable they are. I think various global suppliers are still caught up with shortages, now from Ukraine. The timelines get pushed back because production remains at a fixed rate instead of increasing. One comment mentioned not being able to get parts to repair the Model X he already owns. Years of disinvestment in US manufacturing has come home to roost. A lot of people in the US (especially here in Michigan, where we watch factories close) have been talking about this for years, of the corporate sellout of tools & machines to China and lack of manufacturing & skilled trades education.
Polestar GGPI merger vote is now set for 22nd June with a merger deadline of June 24th. This should help the stock rise as the merger date gets nearer. Polestar has a $7500 EV tax credit advantage over Tesla and GM. Polestar is owned by Volvo & Geely. The Polestar 3 SUV will be built in the US at one of the Volvo factories in late 2022.
Delivery date changes has nothing to do with popularity. Date changes are a Failure to accurately predict production. Unpredictable supply chain delays could account for a couple slips.
If you don't like *_Gull Wing_* doors, don't buy a *Model X.*
I ordered it three weeks ago. LR version with five seats. Somehow got the car two days ago….
First, Elon said a year or more ago that Tesla would stop making Model X, supposedly because it’s too complicated. They get more credit on their quarterly reports making 3’s and Y’s. Also, Tesla is probably diverting parts to the M3 and MY lines and creating a false part shortage for the MX.
I still would have an X if I could afford one, just spent two days In your home town, Melbourne. The wife loved the shopping, LOL. Got a charge at mooney pond, nice. Great vid Viking, you must not sleep much a lot of vids.
The Falcon doors are what caused a major delay when they were first going into production. These fancy doors have been a headache for years. It was not that long ago Tesla said they were having issues getting parts for the Falcon doors. Tesla would be wise to offer a Model X without Falcon doors. It could be a lower cost alternative to the Model X and will likely be easier for them to keep up with demand.
Making sure the Y and 3 are meeting demand is the key to their future. As volume increases on Y and 3, so do profit margins. Combine demand with price and the Y and 3 will make the most money for Tesla, so it makes sense. We keep hearing how GM is trying to roll out dozens of new EV models over the next few years, but that is actually a bad plan. If you design and product a couple of models that nail a large market segment, that is going to get a better ROI than making dozens of models. It is among the reasons I say GM has possibly the worst leadership of any major builder and will likely fail the switch to EVs. GM as a brand may live for decades, if they get bought out. On their own, they will likely die of by 2035 without government bail outs.
As far as the yoke, Tesla should have had it nailed at low speed use. It sounds like software updates are going to fix or have fixed the issues with the steering yolk at low speed. As more builders add it to their products, people will get use to the yolk.
The A pillar and windshield got bashed in on my X plaid by a crazy homeless person. They are telling be 6 months before they can get parts to fix it....
At least, the good side... is I think better quality models and higher battery specs will happen in the next year or two... so those who wait will be rewarded... and it's only fair...
I ordered my 2022 model S LR in January. The last delivery up date is August/September 2022. I would say both S and X are delayed!
Tesla needs to keep these higher end variants. As a current Tesla 2016 Model S owner I am not interested in the 3 or the Y. If Tesla cancelled the S and X I would move on to Mercedes or Lucid or some higher and vehicle.
Indonesia would be a good place to build the X and roadster. Better returns on shipping.
And ship the majority to the US!?
Sound very logical. At least if the build ut in Shanghai they would guarantee quality finish and lower cost if production but the duty is the game changer.
@@dstr1 The most expensive cars and the smallest batch runs. It would give Indonesia an auto line and a channel for Tesla to ship out finished batteries on the side for the real profit. The cherry on top would be that only the elite of the elite in India could afford to buy one since Indonesia is not closed to India like China is.
@@dstr1 Between sales in Australia, India, China, and Europe, building Model S & X at both Fremont *and* Indonesia would actually make sense. Every Tesla they ship begets another sale. They will never keep up with global demand unless they can build an Asian supply chain for S & X. If Fremont runs slow with US & Canadian orders, there's the whole rest of both American continents.
Elon has said they blew the X & S ramp. I think that they misunderstood the power of their own insights embodied in Master Plan Part 1. Build the Roadster to make the money to fund X & S so they can in turn use that money to fund the Y & 3, then an affordable Model.
Arguably they have made good on the all but last stage there. Working their way through the goals is fair. It seems like they misunderstood it though. It is as if they were sloppy in thinking this to be a bit like a video game where you achieve a goal and move on.
Tesla ought to have continued with building the high end cars, increasing their price and margins until they fully achieved their goals. They ought to have continued increasing price and building them until the market itself pushed back by leaving them with inventory. Then they build a few limited editions while lowering prices, eventually production.
My take right now is they ought to go about doing this! And not just for the Model X & S, the Roadster too. Update them all to front & rear gigacastings with structural packs, maybe even doing the Roadster in 1 casting. Call that a 1.5 version, leaving 2.0 for whatever rocketry they may want to add for later.
Consider that a Roadster 1.5, up against cars commanding many multiples of millions USD, could in turn command much more than the volume 1.0 did, they would make truly nosebleeding amounts of profits-margins.
I'd use space in GigaAustin to design X, S, & Roaster lines that would transfer to Fremont. This is so Fremont can continue with their current production makeup. Once they get those initial cars rolling out, and Model Y & 3 are zipping along at GigaAustin, then swap out 3 & Y from Fremont, set up the newly designed production lines for the X, S & Roadster. GigaAustin can take on producing all of the 3 & Y in NA, until GigaFlint is up and going. Fremont focuses on X, S & Roadster.
You are the new car and driver
As for changing body styles look no further than the Iconic VW Beetle ran for over 50 years with the same basic body style and drive line. VW sold millions of them.
Not a word about production rate. That's rich. The yoke is a joke, fair enough that Tesla fanbois eats from their masters mouth, but for everyone else it's plain stupidity to take away the choice for the buyers. Only Tesla can offer drift mode, and then a yoke which makes it impossible to control the vehicle when drifting...
Guys buckle up for this coming Tesla stock crash, and you can thank LA for it!!!
Yoke is the a joke indeed 😳
I think there's an option whereby you can put a steering wheel on.
I am not sure. 😎
By now there should be some aftermarket Parts exclusive for Tesla vehicles. 🤷🏻
> Round wheels are soo yesterday. Stuff old people like.
Yoke is fugly glad my ordered M3 will have the regular steering wheel an heated!
i had really hoped that a magazine like car and driver would sell out to big oil, but they did. that is so sad.
take out the falcon door and replace with normal or sliding doors.
Model X sales numbers shows exactly what is expected, it's never been huge demand unlike the M3 and MY...
Even the models S is the same as the X it's a $140k or more car, that's a limited market for sales and sales growth...
Also the X didn't make SUVs cool.....lmfao
Get that euro trash thinking out of here.....smfh
my model S which is coming in June is $100200 not 140k
red/white interior.
Toyota's yoke steering: "Lock-to-lock is set at around 150 degrees, eliminating the need to change grips when steering, greatly reducing the burden on the driver for U-turn, garage parking, and on winding roads." I know some Tesla drivers are forming the bad habit of one handed steering.
Toyota has been using drive-by -wire for years so they can easily decide the number of revs lock to lock by just manipulating the software. Tesla still has mechanical steering gear. So it's a a little more complicated to do so.
@@dstr1 for the Tesla's type of steering mechanism, a wheel would still make more sense.
I bet the problem is the 4680 batteries ramp-up. I do not know if I am correct, my feeling is that the mass fabrication proved to be complete another problem than prototyping - development.
Furthermore, I like the yoke steer wheel.
Similar to iDevices, people don't care about negative reviews, people really want Tesla.
well, it could tesla lower production because it is bad causing the artificial shortage, to make it popular.
Yes, the yoke matters. Firstly, it was a solution to a problem that didn’t exist, for the sake of style and because of some people’s desire to pretend they are driving an F1 car. I drive a lot, and I have had the need to respond quickly at times to avoid an accident (every time successful). My first hand experience in those kinds of situations tells me that the missing real estate on the yoke can be problematic in an emergency situation, where instantaneous responses are necessary, one may not have the time to think about where they can put their hands and where they can’t. It hasn’t been tested in those kinds of situations, and everybody who says they like it admits to not having to yet use it in an emergency situation, when I have asked. Fortunately emergencies are relatively rare. Unfortunately, they can be quite devastating when they do happen, especially if a quirk and a whim from an eccentric CEO leaves you with a car that inadvertently has you grabbing a handful of air when you’re attempting to avoid a premature demise.
The yoke should be optional. Everybody wins that way. It’s only logical. And that’s the next reason why it matters, people expect logical thinking from Elon, and it’s a little disappointing when we see this kind of thinking that he has demonstrated on the yoke situation.
I have the plaid been driving with yolk since December there's a learning curve but not as bad as u think. Thr biggest learning curve was getting the regen braking right and learning where the blinker is for left and right. Not sure if you've driven with the yolk for any long period of time but it's decent and super comfortable on long trips
@@benjaminsmith2287 yeah im not a fan of the horn location that would be better in the middle I haven't had to use the horn much but that I agree
@@awilson1193 so you’re responding to a post that you didn’t read…OK.
@@davidwollpert5276 are you talking about your post ? I read east you had to say you think it's more about style than function it's actually about both the yolk allows you to see the instrument panel I get where your coming from though about wanting it to be optional a choice would be fine. A regular steering wheel would obstruct the screen in front of the yolk would be the only issue besides once you drive with it a but it becomes 2nd nature and u would be grabbing at any air in an emergency because muscle memory kicks in after a about 1k or so of driving I've got about 5k on the car I have a pickup truck with a regular wheel thst feels antiquated now after driving with the yolk for a bit.
I've rambled enough have a great morning
@@awilson1193 well my post was about the danger of the yoke in an emergency situation. And you replied with comments about how it kind of seems OK to you, as you’ve been using it for a while. So we are talking about two different things. Sure, it’s fine if you’re just driving around casually, never having to use it in a very specific, rapid and extreme way. But that’s not the issue. You could put practically anything on the steering shaft and it would work fine under those conditions. However, when push comes to shove and you have react quickly and with maximum control, in an extreme steering situation, the yoke can very easily become a problem, that could yield catastrophic results.
Car and driver is so old
The older the wiser
Car and Driver is an irrelevant publication.
@@taniabanes4707 😅🤣😅😂
You crack me up , I love Reading all of your comments.
I think you pay more for your *#Patron_Membership**"* than I do a month.
I first joined mosty for Laughs
But I learned a lot on this channel and the *Tesla Fan channel* about EVs.
I Do not know anyone personally that owns a EV.
But these *" 🏝 Tree🌳Huggers🎄 on this 🦄Channel"* , they are something 🌈 else and just like you said , super touchy when it comes to Teslas . 😂
@@taniabanes4707 Not at all. Constructive criticism is welcome. I use it everyday trying to convince our board to go all electric (I’ve worked for a MASSIVE legacy automaker for the past 23 years). Thanks for the insult though. Cheers.👍
@@brunoheggli2888 What’s bullshit?
@@bluecollardisruptor9584 I believe EVs are the future and I'm gonna get one but I'm in no hurry, I'll get one 6 years from now.
The battery technology should level out , there should be a lot more *Charge uP stations* sprinkled throughout America.
"Range Anxiety" will be a thing of the past.
And now they got that 4.0 chip.
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Thanks
The model X is the only Tesla I would ever buy, drop $120K tricking it out and you'd have a 1/2 decent EV with the plug-in hybrid kit.
Why take a step backwards with a hybrid?
@@andrewradford3953 - unlimited range, power your house for weeks if need be, or that remote cottage by a distant lake. Enjoy!!!
@@222INFINITY you pretty much have unlimited range. I wouldn't want to drive more that 5 hours without a car and personal recharge.
With plenty of cheap good used solar solar panels in Australia, there's no need to rely on fossil fuels for your off grid cabin. With 5kW of PV you can store 30kWh in your car a day and if it supports V2H, or even V2L you can run most appliances at night.
Cost of building an electric vehicle
The model s is balling its eyes out for an update change. All the running gear doesn't need changing but the ford torus design should give way to zonda type design.
And they cant keep up with the orders!!
What would happen if they update the design!?
Great video as always! 😀
The yolk is a joke. I rarely touch the wheel in the bottom area of the yolk. Sorry not for me and any car with it is a no
Oh well.... Never mind 🤷♀️
Yoke is the a joke indeed
I think there's an option whereby you can put a steering wheel on.
I am not sure.
wheel is a joke. blocks my view!
don't get the airbags off when your hands are on the wheel top. break your arms from the force of the explosion.
But yoke has no both wheel top and wheel bottom, so yoke is still a joke to me.
Hand/hands are on the wheel top but arm/arms are not on the horn, so airbag will not attack the arm/arms.
@@byddf your arms are above the airbag. It blows out as a big bag blowing your arms up!
Tesla needs to have a gigafactory dedicated to Model X and cybertruck, and five more each dedicated to Model S, Model 3 and Model YI. I think that if they could crank out six to eight million vehicles total per year, in about ten years they will catch up with current demand.
Too late! Elon wasted his money buying Twitter. 🤣
@@AI_HQ I keep thinking that maybe he knows something the rest of us don't. At the same time, Twitter is not a done deal yet. Still a bunch of protests and pending lawsuits on that deal. Also Securities and Exchange is looking at it real hard. Not being a Psychic (I'm just a Rough Guesser ), I'll leave those pronouncements to the Professional Prognosticators.