Oh the joy of changing a 432 torsion bar ! Just remember that they are “handed”. They are marked to show which side of the vehicle they fit. They soon fail if fitted to the incorrect side. Also they need to be shimmed to get the correct endplay. All well described when you locate the correct page of the maintenance manual. I look forward to the video.😀🇬🇧
I served with the Budgies 1RRF between 1982 1nd 1985 in Minden we had 90+ MK1 FV432 in various configurations, the MK1's were reliable to a point, that is plugs and points, forever changing them and we had a spare distributer ready setup with the twin points to just drop in as it was quicker than trying to set them up in the field. The stores had a policy of 8 plugs out 8 plugs back we only found out later the QM was snipping the tips for the platinum he had a very nice car. Mortars had a modified plate in the back to mount the motor to fire out through the hatch hence the hatch being called mortar hatches I did an exercise at Hohne ranges and got to fire the mortar and those crews really did look after their vehicles and treated us REME very well.
I went to Berlin for a month in 79,as Sqn 432 driver.It was VOR for 3 weeks,on the 4th week we "crashed out".It was frosty and the 432 was like a hovercraft,no grip at all on the roads
Those old B80's really do sound rather nice, with the added bonus of decent reliability & ease of maintenance/repair. PS I'd rather hear the engines running when being loaded than the overlaid music.
@@stevenbreach2561 B60 was a six cylinder petrol engine as fitted to Humber Pig and Ferret Scout car. The small version of the L60 two stroke opposed piston diesel was the K60.
Those leads are correct jump leads, will fit stalwarts as well. Connect to master switch box, make sure master switch is in the off position when connecting!
There are 6 NATO stock nos. for these leads = 6 different lengths! They are to FV design & the longest is seriously heavy. I've seen a Challenger 'jump start' the Scammell Commander it rode on!
Even after 45 years there's no mistaking the sound of the 432 on the move. Those must have been infantry vehicles, as ours, in the RA were not so roomy in the back. Looking through the back door the leftt side was occupied by the FACE computer, the right was tac maps and down the centre a seat covering battery banks (for the computer equipment). I was in 5 RA, the Yorkshire Gunners from Huddersfield, even though I am a Brummie. Ahl seethee.
Something to be aware of for the petrol one; we had diesel 432s in Germany but when we went to BATUS used older petrol ones, and were told that they had a habit of leaking fuel and bursting into flames. Shutting off the fuel stopcock when stopping for any length of time was the recommend way to prevent this. Can't remember where it is located; it was a long time ago... Keep up the good work 😀
You beat me to it. The only petrol one I ever drove between 75 and 88 was in Canada at BATUS in 1981 don't recall petrol ones anywhere else, spent a couple of days trying to get it running right when we arrived before we put a new carburettor on it which solved everything, that constant use and running in dust and sand took its toll even with an air filter. Other than that I mainly drove diesel 432's with penthouse when in LADs and 434's when in the workshop FRG doing constant 430 series engine changes and Chieftain engines and transmissions. On our 432 we had one of the rear door BV's converted, tap blanked off and containing lard .... the perfect deep fat chip fryer and a converted 5 gallon oil drum with BV element fitted sat in the basket over the engine louvres that provided hot water for the end of the day, washing, shower, dishes. ... both perfect exercise luxuries. P.S can someone teach Mat that it is REE... MEE not REMY.
I do miss driving those. I used to take out the 432s and 434s back in my day. Great bit of kit. Used to keep warm sitting on the louvres and heating our tins up either on the block or in the exhaust...lol...great days...
The Mk2 looks like a stripped FV439. The back left has holders for the silencers that would have gone on the generators on top. Also the long thin housing under the exhaust pipe is where the flexible exhausts would be to connect the silencers up. More likely a FV439 SAS/MC rather than Radio Relay, but whoever had it before would have been left with a large amount of scrap metal. Most of it containing gold. As far as I recall the patch panel itself in the back of the SAS/MC is worth 10k just for the gold content alone.
The REME 432mkII we had was fastest of the 1RHA fleet at 33mph. The Mk I was much slower cross country than Mk II. Alternators on Mk II are expensive. The NATO electrical connections are a devil to put on the front of pack as fine threads foul easy and are usually graunched. If you have to work on the control box under front plate disconnect electrics first. Hands burn easily if you drop your spanner across the buss bars! Get a long rod or survey pole to hit the fuel pump on Mk II!
had a scary, but then funny incident with these things in Canada, in BAOR they were all desel, in Canada they were all petrol. we were given all the horror stories about smoking in the back, ( all 6 of my crew smoked, and yes after about 2 days everyone was lighting up inside) i seem to remember there was a blown up one at the entrance to the tank park with a DONT SMOKE sign on it . anyway , mine and one other broke down in the arse end of noware, all the crews piled into other call signs and me and the other driver were left to wait for REME,,,,,,, for 3 days !!!REME turn up fit a new pack ,,, didnt even start it , then toddled off , around this time i descoverd that contry to popular beleaf when a live artilery shell goes over your head it doesnt sound like a fraight train , it sounds more like a SIFFFFFFFFFF. so after 2 days a helecopter land next to us and throws out one comander for 2 vehicles, i follow on with no comader , but before we left i thought , lads have had it hard and ive drunk most of the beer i better get a hot scran on for em , therew a load of tins in the BV and set off , im toddling along at 5 mph ( pack was duff) then theres a big bang and smoke starts pouring out of the hatch around me ,,, i shit big time!!! , pulled all the internal fire extinguishers , bailed in about .1 second , ran round pulling all the external extinguishers then sprinted off into the prairie,,, its only as im diving head first into a trench that some kind person had left unfilled for just such an event that it crossed my mind that the smoke smelt a hell of a lot like bacon grill
My God, as a young Soldier in the late 70s, i drove 432s across Salisbury Plains. So easy to drive , as with all 1950s British Military Vehicle's. I remember walking these through the mud by alternately moving the sticks forwards and backwards. Happy days.
My dad told me when he was training with them late 60's early 70's he was a part of the BAOR a convoy of them parked up at a German restaurant who the owner did not like British troops and the main trainer spoke fluent German. The owner was slagging my old man of and his sapper oppos. So when they left they had a order hard tiller left and ten 432 apc's absolutely torn up the car park of the restaurant 😆😅😂🤣
The restaurant owner wouldn't necessarily have been too upset. I remember a troop of our Chieftains being invited into a muddy farm yard which was duly trashed. The next year we weren't at all welcome because the farmer had had a new cobbled surface laid, paid for by the BAOR Claims Commission.
@@tedspires One night we chewed up a field of sugar beets with our 434, and coming down into the farm yard, the farmer and his family were all assembled there, all smiling.
I still remembered those 432 which were used for desert training in Libya. When the Colonel seized power,and kicked out the Army ,these 432's were shipped back to BAOR all battered up,and complete with the occasional scorpion.
Had many pleasures with maintenance on these in the mid to late 80's, still remember the number plate of mine 00 EE 13. This video brought back some good memories (and bad) haha
I had an early Mk1 FV432 petrol with the B81 Mk8F engine about 20 years ago in Western Australia. Unfortunately by the time I rescued it from a scrap yard it had been cut down to the track level by a mining company. I messed around with it for a couple of years then had to sell it on when I moved house
Hi there Swagman. Fellow sandgroper here. I saw one in a yard for sale about 35 years ago on Gt Eastern Hwy. It hhad been converted to carry a driling rig. Even ba,ck then they wantex 5 figures for it. Way off my price range LOL!
@@fittermat not a problem, good quality as well! I’m living near Glasgow now, going to see how long the hoodie takes to piss some of the Jocks off!!! 🤪
Jumpleads = Slave cable in army parlance. One early pattern One later type ( these are easy to modify for use between slave socket equipped vehicles and non slave vehicles, by taking the plug off one end and replacing it with a pair of Croc clips. Just make sure you mark the positive one up )
O....thay bring back memories being based in osabruck Germany....daily routine was getting them out ,starting them up and making sure we're ready to go at a moments notice,...then tea up..ha.always glad when we got out on manovers on senalaga..found them OK.easy to drive,did what it says on the tin...thanks for the memories...
As an apprentice with J Sankey I can assure you even the petrol Mk1 had what you call the 'stupid' exhaust. With a vertical extension It was part of the 'floatation' equipment. Even the lighter Mk1 432 only just about floated! It was pretty obvious even back then that the Mk2 multifuel engine was not a brilliant diesel and even worse when running on petrol.
Sapper versions had all sorts of boxes, ladders, 14 gauge wired on the top and front. A lot of places to open a beer on too if I remember. We only had diesel except for out in Canada then we had the petrol, caused a few burnt cam nets as we forgot about the different exhaust placement and temperature.
I drove both petrol and k60 multi fuel, petrol in Canada at the British army training unit Suffield, k60 in BAOR . I preferred the K 60, more power and torque. The rope in the back bins and two hooks are part of the track pulling kit, the can was for omd 75 oil, both items issued as part of the kit you were for field maintenance.
For all those bods thinking FACE? Field Artillery Computer Equipment Bung in all the FOO stuff and it gave out arty stuff. If the FACE went down (as if...) then you went to FAME Field Artillery Manual Equipment In laymen terms slide rules, log tables and a load of maths magic.
@@ronhall9394 thanks Ron. I’ve just completed a 1/35th model of FACE equipped FV432 but I had to convert kit of the newer versions but in troop carrier guise. Luckily I had my own photos plus a little bit of help from the Museum at Larkhill. There is little to no info on line and I wonder what happened to the original vehicles once they went out of date. The tanks on the back of the original Mk1/2 were emergency fuel tanks (not used ) rather than storage boxes as seen on the two purchases here.
Ah yes FACE. The connections would often loosen going across country and then it was down to fingers for tightening etc! I took the top off the cabinet once prior to the REME course I never did. I have never before or after in industry ever seen so many boards with so many ice’s. I put cover back on and called up Sunray ECE who told me about connections. The teletype was always covered in dirt and the punch tape could have its own mind. The centre seat that ran down the middle of the compartment was over the top of a set of 100 amp batteries about 8 or 10. The lump on the R/H outside was the access to air con filters for the NBC and the water gauge dial was inside behind it.
Ahh the 432. I remember having fun with them back in the early 1970s when STC had been contracted by the MoD to design and fit a fully automatic crossbar telephone exchange in the back.
That's interesting, in the early 1980's I worked for STC defence Systems in Greenwich UK and we manufactured a battlefield radio system called Ptarmigan that was fitted to a number of vehicles, the FV439 being one of them. The 439 was the comms version of the 432 with a massive great box on top and drums of cable on the back.
@@iggysfriend4431 There were at least three different types. RR (Triffid), Message Centre (turned into SAS/MC) & Exchange. Didn't they much around with a big computer as well and the big box on top (generator) was about the same size as the vehicle. It's name will come back to me in a minute - I remember it had bubble memory and the reason that it didn't last long was because it was absolutely rubbish. As an aside I passed my tracked vehicle test in a 432 in 1975 - it amuses my kids to think that I could drive a tank before I could drive a car.
Bad form to quote oneself 😁It came to me - Wavell and the vehicle was the Wavell Processor Installation (Tracked) - known (un) affectionately as the whippet. Still awful and I'd imagine that this vehicle would be very rare.
@@tattyheid7279 I worked on Wavell. The main bits of kit I worked on were TACE (Transmission Alarm Control Equipment) LDA Mux (Local Distribution Access multiplexer), Wavell and the wonderful big green Ptarmigan handset. There was another bit of kit that looked like a large aluminium tub with a control panel on the from I only remember it had modem in it's title. Why I remember the other names of kit I have no idea, either I was mentally scared for life or must have liked the masochism of working on Ptarmigan.
I must say I do like the sound of the petrol powered APC somewhat over the Diesel powered unit, even though I am on 'record' among my buddies, as being a Diesel Nut!
Pink was the colour for boys for centuries and blue was for girls. Probably related to all those religious images showing Jesus in red or pink robes and Mary in blue. Mat makes a point of being from up North so the news of the changeover somewhere around 1900? might not have got to his rural area! 🙂 🧐.
Well I for one think its lovely that the Northern Tribes come down on occasion. Goodness knows woad must get a bit samey if everyone’s painted in it, and after all a change is as good as a rest. I suspect they miss the mammoths though, they don’t sleep on the roads like back oop north.
Took my track test in a K60 432, was told I would never see a petrol one, how wrong they were….. now those that are left have been given a Cummins engine. Torsion bars aren’t too bad to change. Getting inside the kidney plate ‘hatch’ when it’s hot is a bitch, especially changing the points. Tanks a lot will have road wheels and track pads…..
After many years in an FRT you don’t change the points !! You have a spare distributor with new points and condenser already fitted and swop the whole thing. Much quicker and less burns.
That diesel APC sounds like a Detroit 71 Series 2 stroker. Smokes like one too. We had a saying about those engines, once they warmed up you have to add an additional gallon of oil. That gas/petrol one sounded mean. Don't you guys have a broom & shovel?, or is that a dirt floor? Not very military, ha ha.
I am surprised that R Series Scania made it out of the farmyard with its V8 engine still in place .... But those two APCs are really really boring. They start, run, drive and turn..... 👍😂
@@fittermat Actually you want to avoid those 16 litre V8s from those trucks. All ECUs and modules connected to every part of the truck. Look for a 14 litre V8. Even with EDC they are rock solid and easy to work on. Will fit in the concreted Chieftain ...
They look superior to the old M113A1 & A2's I used to drive and work on. Sounds the same, not sure about the screwy Louie driver'spsn. on the wrong side though! 😃
Do they still say “wotcha?” I’ve tried it around different places in uk and you get totally blank reaction it means absolutely nothing… I thought it could have been pad brat slang or else only local dialect of st Johns/aldershot/Woking/chobham/chertsey area…
See you said you needed your inhaler. That’s because the air is cleaner down south. If you had applied for a visa it mentions that on website. 😂😂😂😂😂 I agree the petrol sounds a lot better. 👍🏻👍🏻 432 jump leads like unicorn poop. Win win. 👍🏻 jump leads are like the ones we used on the army Foden that lorry had a rolls Royce Eagle 305 mk 3 engine it used to purr. Wasn’t bad for a diesel.
You're buying armnour at a cracking rate. How long before you've got more than the British Army ? You could ask for a subsidy, and claim you're refurbishing kit to build the Reserve :)
Oh the joy of changing a 432 torsion bar ! Just remember that they are “handed”. They are marked to show which side of the vehicle they fit. They soon fail if fitted to the incorrect side. Also they need to be shimmed to get the correct endplay. All well described when you locate the correct page of the maintenance manual. I look forward to the video.😀🇬🇧
The sound of that petrol 432. Sweet.
You guys are the next "combat dealers"
you guys are on a roll!
Nice 😎
Without the "hookey live firing" bits
Passed me H license on the 43's. I always thought the K60 was a multifuel engine. Tanks a lot is your man for spares as they have loads of these.
I served with the Budgies 1RRF between 1982 1nd 1985 in Minden we had 90+ MK1 FV432 in various configurations, the MK1's were reliable to a point, that is plugs and points, forever changing them and we had a spare distributer ready setup with the twin points to just drop in as it was quicker than trying to set them up in the field. The stores had a policy of 8 plugs out 8 plugs back we only found out later the QM was snipping the tips for the platinum he had a very nice car. Mortars had a modified plate in the back to mount the motor to fire out through the hatch hence the hatch being called mortar hatches I did an exercise at Hohne ranges and got to fire the mortar and those crews really did look after their vehicles and treated us REME very well.
I went to Berlin for a month in 79,as Sqn 432 driver.It was VOR for 3 weeks,on the 4th week we "crashed out".It was frosty and the 432 was like a hovercraft,no grip at all on the roads
Those old B80's really do sound rather nice, with the added bonus of decent reliability & ease of maintenance/repair.
PS I'd rather hear the engines running when being loaded than the overlaid music.
I,m probably completely wrong,but is the B60,a small version of the L60?
@@stevenbreach2561 B60 was a six cylinder petrol engine as fitted to Humber Pig and Ferret Scout car. The small version of the L60 two stroke opposed piston diesel was the K60.
B81 actually in the 432 & Stalwart
Those leads are correct jump leads, will fit stalwarts as well. Connect to master switch box, make sure master switch is in the off position when connecting!
There are 6 NATO stock nos. for these leads = 6 different lengths! They are to FV design & the longest is seriously heavy. I've seen a Challenger 'jump start' the Scammell Commander it rode on!
Yes a very useful piece of kit. I have often started a Chieftain from a 432 with that NATO lead.
Even after 45 years there's no mistaking the sound of the 432 on the move. Those must have been infantry vehicles, as ours, in the RA were not so roomy in the back. Looking through the back door the leftt side was occupied by the FACE computer, the right was tac maps and down the centre a seat covering battery banks (for the computer equipment).
I was in 5 RA, the Yorkshire Gunners from Huddersfield, even though I am a Brummie. Ahl seethee.
Something to be aware of for the petrol one; we had diesel 432s in Germany but when we went to BATUS used older petrol ones, and were told that they had a habit of leaking fuel and bursting into flames. Shutting off the fuel stopcock when stopping for any length of time was the recommend way to prevent this. Can't remember where it is located; it was a long time ago... Keep up the good work 😀
You beat me to it. The only petrol one I ever drove between 75 and 88 was in Canada at BATUS in 1981 don't recall petrol ones anywhere else, spent a couple of days trying to get it running right when we arrived before we put a new carburettor on it which solved everything, that constant use and running in dust and sand took its toll even with an air filter. Other than that I mainly drove diesel 432's with penthouse when in LADs and 434's when in the workshop FRG doing constant 430 series engine changes and Chieftain engines and transmissions. On our 432 we had one of the rear door BV's converted, tap blanked off and containing lard .... the perfect deep fat chip fryer and a converted 5 gallon oil drum with BV element fitted sat in the basket over the engine louvres that provided hot water for the end of the day, washing, shower, dishes. ... both perfect exercise luxuries.
P.S can someone teach Mat that it is REE... MEE not REMY.
@@steviep7706 But they were very quiet.
I remember the old petrol 432s used to set the cam nets on fire in Batus had a few go up
Well, that's it then, there goes all the subscribers South of The Wash 🙂
Try living in one of them for a month and then see if you still love it.........
looked a bit like the skip they were parked next to
@05:50 waving you on like you can actually see him 🤣🤣
I do miss driving those. I used to take out the 432s and 434s back in my day. Great bit of kit. Used to keep warm sitting on the louvres and heating our tins up either on the block or in the exhaust...lol...great days...
The Mk2 looks like a stripped FV439. The back left has holders for the silencers that would have gone on the generators on top. Also the long thin housing under the exhaust pipe is where the flexible exhausts would be to connect the silencers up. More likely a FV439 SAS/MC rather than Radio Relay, but whoever had it before would have been left with a large amount of scrap metal. Most of it containing gold. As far as I recall the patch panel itself in the back of the SAS/MC is worth 10k just for the gold content alone.
The REME 432mkII we had was fastest of the 1RHA fleet at 33mph. The Mk I was much slower cross country than Mk II. Alternators on Mk II are expensive. The NATO electrical connections are a devil to put on the front of pack as fine threads foul easy and are usually graunched. If you have to work on the control box under front plate disconnect electrics first. Hands burn easily if you drop your spanner across the buss bars! Get a long rod or survey pole to hit the fuel pump on Mk II!
had a scary, but then funny incident with these things in Canada, in BAOR they were all desel, in Canada they were all petrol. we were given all the horror stories about smoking in the back, ( all 6 of my crew smoked, and yes after about 2 days everyone was lighting up inside) i seem to remember there was a blown up one at the entrance to the tank park with a DONT SMOKE sign on it . anyway , mine and one other broke down in the arse end of noware, all the crews piled into other call signs and me and the other driver were left to wait for REME,,,,,,, for 3 days !!!REME turn up fit a new pack ,,, didnt even start it , then toddled off , around this time i descoverd that contry to popular beleaf when a live artilery shell goes over your head it doesnt sound like a fraight train , it sounds more like a SIFFFFFFFFFF. so after 2 days a helecopter land next to us and throws out one comander for 2 vehicles, i follow on with no comader , but before we left i thought , lads have had it hard and ive drunk most of the beer i better get a hot scran on for em , therew a load of tins in the BV and set off , im toddling along at 5 mph ( pack was duff) then theres a big bang and smoke starts pouring out of the hatch around me ,,, i shit big time!!! , pulled all the internal fire extinguishers , bailed in about .1 second , ran round pulling all the external extinguishers then sprinted off into the prairie,,, its only as im diving head first into a trench that some kind person had left unfilled for just such an event that it crossed my mind that the smoke smelt a hell of a lot like bacon grill
My God, as a young Soldier in the late 70s, i drove 432s across Salisbury Plains. So easy to drive , as with all 1950s British Military Vehicle's. I remember walking these through the mud by alternately moving the sticks forwards and backwards. Happy days.
they look like a lot of fun
My dad told me when he was training with them late 60's early 70's he was a part of the BAOR a convoy of them parked up at a German restaurant who the owner did not like British troops and the main trainer spoke fluent German. The owner was slagging my old man of and his sapper oppos. So when they left they had a order hard tiller left and ten 432 apc's absolutely torn up the car park of the restaurant 😆😅😂🤣
The restaurant owner wouldn't necessarily have been too upset. I remember a troop of our Chieftains being invited into a muddy farm yard which was duly trashed. The next year we weren't at all welcome because the farmer had had a new cobbled surface laid, paid for by the BAOR Claims Commission.
Did much the same tracking an M107
@@tedspires One night we chewed up a field of sugar beets with our 434, and coming down into the farm yard, the farmer and his family were all assembled there, all smiling.
I still remembered those 432 which were used for desert training in Libya. When the Colonel seized power,and kicked out the Army ,these 432's were shipped back to BAOR all battered up,and complete with the occasional scorpion.
The Wheelers low loader is one of my smartest WSI 1:50 models. A nice load ya got there. 👍👍🇬🇧
Had many pleasures with maintenance on these in the mid to late 80's, still remember the number plate of mine 00 EE 13. This video brought back some good memories (and bad) haha
I had an early Mk1 FV432 petrol with the B81 Mk8F engine about 20 years ago in Western Australia. Unfortunately by the time I rescued it from a scrap yard it had been cut down to the track level by a mining company. I messed around with it for a couple of years then had to sell it on when I moved house
Hi there Swagman. Fellow sandgroper here. I saw one in a yard for sale about 35 years ago on Gt Eastern Hwy. It hhad been converted to carry a driling rig. Even ba,ck then they wantex 5 figures for it. Way off my price range LOL!
@@iansnell8897 That was it...
I actually like the large exhaust on the diesel, gives them a bit of character...but the petrol sounds awesome..!!
I’m born and bred Yorkshire 1988, got one of your hoodies delivered today!
Much appreciated!
@@fittermat not a problem, good quality as well! I’m living near Glasgow now, going to see how long the hoodie takes to piss some of the Jocks off!!! 🤪
you need to get an FV434 and then you can stick a penthouse on it and live life like the proper REME.
Good God man, that's roughing it. As a REMF I lived in a box body with a genny attached.
Been there done that in the LAD, but not so good when part of a workshop FRG when you are constantly carrying an engine or transmission.
Nice to see you using wheelers to transport them, their trucks are all very very smart
Nice addition to the arsenal 😉
Next video, ye we just went all out and we bought Bovington's tank museum ;)
Jumpleads = Slave cable in army parlance.
One early pattern
One later type ( these are easy to modify for use between slave socket equipped vehicles and non slave vehicles, by taking the plug off one end and replacing it with a pair of Croc clips. Just make sure you mark the positive one up )
You can also get adapters to connect them to the older 2 pin connectors like on m35s.
I agree. Petrol 1 sounds absolutely awesome 👌👌
O....thay bring back memories being based in osabruck Germany....daily routine was getting them out ,starting them up and making sure we're ready to go at a moments notice,...then tea up..ha.always glad when we got out on manovers on senalaga..found them OK.easy to drive,did what it says on the tin...thanks for the memories...
It’s not an oil can! It’s a field expedient football. True gold.
As an apprentice with J Sankey I can assure you even the petrol Mk1 had what you call the 'stupid' exhaust. With a vertical extension It was part of the 'floatation' equipment. Even the lighter Mk1 432 only just about floated! It was pretty obvious even back then that the Mk2 multifuel engine was not a brilliant diesel and even worse when running on petrol.
I loved driving the AFV 432 when i was at 3AFA
I'd love to take 1 of those for a rip flat out around a field just to see how much damage I could do to it!
Good old mk1 432 had the ambulance version out in BAOR back in the day , always had a bed at night 😂😂😂
My ol man commanded the mortar version of this so nice one with the video
At least the petrol one doesn't have it's own built in smoke generator producing clouds of white smoke everywhere you drive it.
Should get a AVRE with the amount you need to move these beauties about!!
I did my h licence back in 1985 and only had mk 1's in our unit. The fun of filling those up by Jerry cans next to a cooling exhaust on exercise.
Sapper versions had all sorts of boxes, ladders, 14 gauge wired on the top and front. A lot of places to open a beer on too if I remember.
We only had diesel except for out in Canada then we had the petrol, caused a few burnt cam nets as we forgot about the different exhaust placement and temperature.
I drove both petrol and k60 multi fuel, petrol in Canada at the British army training unit Suffield, k60 in BAOR . I preferred the K 60, more power and torque. The rope in the back bins and two hooks are part of the track pulling kit, the can was for omd 75 oil, both items issued as part of the kit you were for field maintenance.
Not wishing to sound orrible matt with the yellow light mate thought the miniskip was a tank for a minute mate !!!!
Hahahaha the gold reference.
I just read a couple of articles the other day about that 😂
I remember the Mk1/2 . Two were used with 27 Field Regt Command post with one fitted with Radios and the other with F.A.C.E.
For all those bods thinking FACE?
Field Artillery Computer Equipment
Bung in all the FOO stuff and it gave out arty stuff.
If the FACE went down (as if...) then you went to FAME
Field Artillery Manual Equipment
In laymen terms slide rules, log tables and a load of maths magic.
@@ronhall9394 thanks Ron. I’ve just completed a 1/35th model of FACE equipped FV432 but I had to convert kit of the newer versions but in troop carrier guise. Luckily I had my own photos plus a little bit of help from the Museum at Larkhill. There is little to no info on line and I wonder what happened to the original vehicles once they went out of date.
The tanks on the back of the original Mk1/2 were emergency fuel tanks (not used ) rather than storage boxes as seen on the two purchases here.
Ah yes FACE. The connections would often loosen going across country and then it was down to fingers for tightening etc! I took the top off the cabinet once prior to the REME course I never did. I have never before or after in industry ever seen so many boards with so many ice’s. I put cover back on and called up Sunray ECE who told me about connections. The teletype was always covered in dirt and the punch tape could have its own mind. The centre seat that ran down the middle of the compartment was over the top of a set of 100 amp batteries about 8 or 10. The lump on the R/H outside was the access to air con filters for the NBC and the water gauge dial was inside behind it.
Ahh the 432. I remember having fun with them back in the early 1970s when STC had been contracted by the MoD to design and fit a fully automatic crossbar telephone exchange in the back.
That's interesting, in the early 1980's I worked for STC defence Systems in Greenwich UK and we manufactured a battlefield radio system called Ptarmigan that was fitted to a number of vehicles, the FV439 being one of them. The 439 was the comms version of the 432 with a massive great box on top and drums of cable on the back.
@@iggysfriend4431 yep, I used to work in one! In fact I still look after one now that's the only fully operational one left.
@@iggysfriend4431 There were at least three different types. RR (Triffid), Message Centre (turned into SAS/MC) & Exchange. Didn't they much around with a big computer as well and the big box on top (generator) was about the same size as the vehicle. It's name will come back to me in a minute - I remember it had bubble memory and the reason that it didn't last long was because it was absolutely rubbish. As an aside I passed my tracked vehicle test in a 432 in 1975 - it amuses my kids to think that I could drive a tank before I could drive a car.
Bad form to quote oneself 😁It came to me - Wavell and the vehicle was the Wavell Processor Installation (Tracked) - known (un) affectionately as the whippet. Still awful and I'd imagine that this vehicle would be very rare.
@@tattyheid7279 I worked on Wavell. The main bits of kit I worked on were
TACE (Transmission Alarm Control Equipment)
LDA Mux (Local Distribution Access multiplexer),
Wavell and the wonderful big green Ptarmigan handset. There was another bit of kit that looked like a large aluminium tub with a control panel on the from I only remember it had modem in it's title.
Why I remember the other names of kit I have no idea, either I was mentally scared for life or must have liked the masochism of working on Ptarmigan.
Tracks need a good oiling😆👍👍
I must say I do like the sound of the petrol powered APC somewhat over the Diesel powered unit, even though I am on 'record' among my buddies, as being a Diesel Nut!
Pink was the colour for boys for centuries and blue was for girls. Probably related to all those religious images showing Jesus in red or pink robes and Mary in blue. Mat makes a point of being from up North so the news of the changeover somewhere around 1900? might not have got to his rural area! 🙂 🧐.
The large end on the jumper lead is for the Centurion.
I remember they were great to drive standing up.
I drove both those petrol in Canada in the 80’s and the diesel in Germany loved em both
Love the 432. Spent a lot of time in the Ambulance version. Cracking video
Petrol 432 were used in Canada batus and diesel were used in Germany
a lot of the infranty in baor had petrol version
Well I for one think its lovely that the Northern Tribes come down on occasion. Goodness knows woad must get a bit samey if everyone’s painted in it, and after all a change is as good as a rest. I suspect they miss the mammoths though, they don’t sleep on the roads like back oop north.
Great video .... Us southerners stopped you dodgy accent lot speaking French, Spanish and German... lol
We had MK1’s in 1983 in Minden….both Minden battalions had MK1’s. My Dad in Munster in 1970 had a MK2…..so mine was older than his
The petrol sounds GORGEOUS! :D
The first cable was an early one for the petrol versions and the second is the more heavy duty one for the diesel engine versions
Took my track test in a K60 432, was told I would never see a petrol one, how wrong they were….. now those that are left have been given a Cummins engine. Torsion bars aren’t too bad to change. Getting inside the kidney plate ‘hatch’ when it’s hot is a bitch, especially changing the points.
Tanks a lot will have road wheels and track pads…..
After many years in an FRT you don’t change the points !! You have a spare distributor with new points and condenser already fitted and swop the whole thing. Much quicker and less burns.
Remember them well from my RA service. Excellent, excellent camper vans, a bit light on the armour for a nuclear war.
You blokes are the Arthur Daley's of the military vehicle market. Great channel, love it
Cheers!
B81 not B80 in Mk1 FV432. B81 had a larger cylinder bore and was also fitted to Stalwart.
That's a smoke discharge cover that canvas bag!
You should do the steering box mod!! Where it will have neutral turn capability and turns better!!
I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future you guys got a wagon with a flatbed trailer with the amount of ex military vehicles you guys are getting
Driving an armoured vehicle in a pink wooly hat, best day at work ever! Again.
Engine is actually a B81, some B80's were bored out. I was a pck rat back in the day
Nice to see you buy something that loads and unloads under its own power😂
Sketchy with the tracks in such a poor condition!
Get another shed full of tanks and a fluffy white cat and then you can be a Bond villain.
They sound great 👍🇬🇧
May I ask what the long term aim is by collecting such great vehicles?
petrol one is a mk 1 cut my teeth driving and repairing these as a REME fitter lol
That diesel APC sounds like a Detroit 71 Series 2 stroker. Smokes like one too. We had a saying about those engines, once they warmed up you have to add an additional gallon of oil. That gas/petrol one sounded mean. Don't you guys have a broom & shovel?, or is that a dirt floor? Not very military, ha ha.
someone showing off with the editing skills in this video
Mat have you guys won the lotto or you getting a good turn over of vehicles ?
Fantastic chaps looking forward to the vids
Such a pretty pink hat so lovely
I am surprised that R Series Scania made it out of the farmyard with its V8 engine still in place ....
But those two APCs are really really boring. They start, run, drive and turn..... 👍😂
Never late in a V8!!!
@@fittermat Actually you want to avoid those 16 litre V8s from those trucks. All ECUs and modules connected to every part of the truck.
Look for a 14 litre V8. Even with EDC they are rock solid and easy to work on. Will fit in the concreted Chieftain ...
Never heard someone from t'north whinge so much about returning to civilisation, think how we feel having to go into bandit country😁
FV 432....the portable oil leak!
They look superior to the old M113A1 & A2's I used to drive and work on. Sounds the same, not sure about the screwy Louie driver'spsn. on the wrong side though! 😃
Not superior
@@stevenbreach2561 Oh interesting.
As an ex-pat Northerner, living in the South I feel your pain. Awright mate, watcha?
Do they still say “wotcha?” I’ve tried it around different places in uk and you get totally blank reaction it means absolutely nothing… I thought it could have been pad brat slang or else only local dialect of st Johns/aldershot/Woking/chobham/chertsey area…
Mud guard is bent forward on the petrol one
Track pads were in terrible state too, don’t miss track bashing them
You have so many tanks and armoured vehicles you must be intending on going too war with us southerners 🤙🏻😂
Did you ever sell the Saladin?
3 tanks 2 apc couple of recon recovery,support vehicles you guys planning a revolution or summat lol
Mark one petrol didn't think any of those were still around
Be like a pig in shit working in a place like this, what a joy to work on such vehicles.
deluxe 24v intervehicle start lead, excellent - you can jump start your helicopter off that ! could do with one myself
I wonder if the original military registration numbers of these units are known.
See you said you needed your inhaler. That’s because the air is cleaner down south. If you had applied for a visa it mentions that on website. 😂😂😂😂😂 I agree the petrol sounds a lot better. 👍🏻👍🏻
432 jump leads like unicorn poop. Win win. 👍🏻 jump leads are like the ones we used on the army Foden that lorry had a rolls Royce Eagle 305 mk 3 engine it used to purr. Wasn’t bad for a diesel.
Must be nice coming down south where we have electric through ?
I know what you mean about travellingup a d down the UK. I am from London and when I go past Watford in the North its like going into the stone age.
You're buying armnour at a cracking rate. How long before you've got more than the British Army ? You could ask for a subsidy, and claim you're refurbishing kit to build the Reserve :)
when it comes to riding the tank barrel we were not braver, just more stupid or pissed
nice upload
Very interesting videos, amazing equipment - just a little confused, are you essentially dealers in old military vehicles? Do you have a website?
That’s it! Buy, sell and repair anything military, strange or interesting. Website on its way soon!
@@fittermat Great Thanks, neat to watch, hope you do well.
@@fittermat Ohhhh, and there was me thinking you were procuring for the O.N.L.F.* armoured division.
* Oop North Liberation Front
Should call you flat cap and cobbles ee by gum 👍🏼