Thx for the thoughts 2gt3. Hours are hard as the car will have to idle a lot waiting to get on track. Often that is longer than the lap therefore brake pads really are a solid reference point!
Exciting to listen to you about wears and tears, in a car "abused" on a racetrack. I have run a taxi company in a big city, and have been driving 100K km yearly in city traffic. It's like 200/300K km on an ordinary road. Maintenance is about avoiding stops. All sudden stops are expensive, sometimes you have to wait for parts. People often asked me why I used expensive cars such as Mercedes and so on, and not cheaper cars. The cheaper ones couldn't stand the use, and the labor and the parts are as expensive as on the more expensive cars. The big issue is to get parts, with Mercedes you could get parts on demand, with cheaper cars it could take weeks to get parts.
Robert! Welcome back, I hope you enjoyed your break. Typically not a huge TH-cam commenter but I've been a fan of the channel for something like a year. It's a pleasure to be here and I just want you to know I really do feel you have something special in terms of content. I don't think these types of videos including insight into a business / what actually running a car at a serious pace will do / takes on ring culture / etc. are common on ANY topic, let alone one that has to do with the most demanding track in the world. Please keep up the good work, your videos were missed.
So comparing to my 20 year old clio 2 rs which is now on the ring for over 600 laps, I am quite happy I only had to change the Timingbelt and do oilchanges :D
My mind has been away from the Nürburgring and my project car for the last year or so Robert, but after a little shake down drive this afternoon and another of your excellent videos, I've decided there is no better time than the present to start planning my 2022 trip to see you all at Apex!
Hey Will! I really hope that the build has gone well on the project car. Tell me a little bit about it. In the meantime looking forward to seeing you out at the ring and at Apex
I watched some of the cost per lap breakdowns and it still amazes me how you guys make any money. 15k on a used motor seems like the profit for the year. Really awesome you guys can taxi cars of this caliber.
Really love the stories of reliability , please bring up an episode where you compare these cars which ones are the more and less reliable in these let's call extreme usage conditions.
Based on this video, kinda shows why you went having a rental Yaris GR. Sure things can go off on Toyota just like any other company, but they have shown durability over the years and its probably the only fun car Toyota ever makes nowadays along with the GR86. Also the fact that Lotus uses standard Camry engines for their cars which pretty much were born on tracks, shows how much of reliable engines they create. My problem with the company that apart from these 2 cars they create, all other cars aren't exciting at all to drive.
Great interesting video. I have a feeling that when Porche overall maintenance costs are totaled up it would show their build and engineering quality in comparison to the others BMW for instance. Not putting BMW down as they are a great Ring car.
Welcome back! would be god to hear what you have been up to? If family then I don't blame you, no need to explain! If rebuilding with in the flood community would be interesting? This is a good guide for the common person to realise that cars are designed to run on a road at normal speeds and not flat out! And when you do run them flat out things wear out a lot quicker and the life span of items is massively reduced! liked the comment of fitting an LS motor, but which one and then the fuel usage would be a lot more and its still being run flat out so things will continue to fail quicker than normal usage? All valid questions? Plus a fitting an LS would take a fair bit of alteration! What you have done with the M3 is very impressive! Friends have returned and said you must sit in the back lol, I think 35k of full sends is very good on a Engine that has not had so much modified, A director of a private race team once told me "A flat out mile on a race track is the equivalent of 12 road miles" How right he was is a guess? Cheers & Welcome back! 👍
First of all, I'm no expert what so ever. Maybe change oil more frequently and your engine last a little bit longer? Who knows, that's the first thought I had. I don't know... :S Anyway, good luck with the new engine + transmission and so on. Btw, great video. Love these kind of stuff. Would love to see more ;D
As an F82 CS owner, I'm curious how a C63S or Alfa Romeo Quad of same gen would fare to the rigors of Apex Taxi usage. F8X makes an easy argument as the most reliable M car made to date. This video is right up my alley. Thank you.
Welcome back Robert! We missed you and the team! As an F87 DCT owner, you replace the transmission at the same time as the engine to prevent failure or was it in need of replacement as well?
Missed your videos. You've apparently postponed or cancelled Lasik surgery. Since I had cataract surgery on both eyes a few years ago, I have the best vision of my like. Only need glasses for reading.
What happened to the motor? This is the S55, right? Generally speaking, BMW straight 6 motors are stout. It’s the plastic bits connected that can be an issue, however. Who’s bouncing the motor off the limiter? 😀
Hey Robert! Nice to see you. Great content, I know you have spoken about the maintenance aspects of a Ring machine before and this is awesome. I do have 1 out of left field question; do you consider kpg in your operating costs. I would assume you do but it doesn’t get mentioned that often and thought it might be an interesting discussion point for the taxi and rental program! Thanks as always
Would it be easier to run a main car, and a backup instead of one car you always need to have 100% every lap? This allows you to have a trainee working on the other low pressure car whist the head tech is sorting the money car.
So far the GT two motor has lasted 45,000 km but the transmission only lasted 44,000. The BMW motors are lasting 35 to 36,000 but the transmission lasted 71
I was wathing the video and had to pause for a second. Is the exhaust manifold on the second turbo broken? I mean, the flange. Very interesting videos. Thank you for share them
I would love to be but I don’t think they care :-) it seems like it would be logical but they do what they do and as long as the motors get out of warranty they’re happy
What a comeback!
Oh, wow… one hour ago
Nice vid
Absolute tier one! :)
When Misha disappears, Robert arrives...lol!
George, typical English mechanic, he's into getting that motor stripped and he just gets on with it, good stuff.
He’s all right
The only man worth listening too on TH-cam haven’t seen you for ages ! Hope all is well Robert
Thank you Rob!!! So happy to be back in the biz
Wow, 4 month. We missed you Robert. Tier one forever!
Finally something on your channel Robert, I hope that you’ll stay here for longer ;), I’ll watch it after the lecture
Good luck in the lecture
George is well clued up 🙌 You should gauge it same as marine engine's ,, hours used ,,based on time not miles for oil change...
Thx for the thoughts 2gt3. Hours are hard as the car will have to idle a lot waiting to get on track. Often that is longer than the lap therefore brake pads really are a solid reference point!
Exciting to listen to you about wears and tears, in a car "abused" on a racetrack. I have run a taxi company in a big city, and have been driving 100K km yearly in city traffic. It's like 200/300K km on an ordinary road. Maintenance is about avoiding stops. All sudden stops are expensive, sometimes you have to wait for parts. People often asked me why I used expensive cars such as Mercedes and so on, and not cheaper cars. The cheaper ones couldn't stand the use, and the labor and the parts are as expensive as on the more expensive cars. The big issue is to get parts, with Mercedes you could get parts on demand, with cheaper cars it could take weeks to get parts.
Comeback we didn't deserve but the comeback we definitely needed. I have lots of hope we won't have to wait to see more.
It's been a while, glad to have some new content to make me feel tier one
I haven't felt anything until Robert uploaded this video today
Always tier 1
This is the kind of info I like to hear. I look forward to the great reveal tomorrow. €299 per lap is a bargain for this car IMHO. Love it.
Great seeing you here 964
Epic return! Welcome back Robert, we've missed your videos.
Yo tier 1 media BACK IN ACTION!!!! This upload made my week Robert, cannot wait to see the red E30...has'nt it been a year already?....
I hope you enjoy it!!!!
@@RobertMitchell I sure did!! On a sidenote, why don't you drive the Schirmer M2 more often and when is the E30 going back to its oem form?
Haha, the dig at David Pittard being hard on cars. Not the first time we've heard that. I'm sure he's fun for customers as a taxi driver though!
He’s great:-)
@Robert Mitchell - missed your videos! Great to see you putting out content like this - its awesome.
Robert! Welcome back, I hope you enjoyed your break. Typically not a huge TH-cam commenter but I've been a fan of the channel for something like a year.
It's a pleasure to be here and I just want you to know I really do feel you have something special in terms of content.
I don't think these types of videos including insight into a business / what actually running a car at a serious pace will do / takes on ring culture / etc. are common on ANY topic, let alone one that has to do with the most demanding track in the world.
Please keep up the good work, your videos were missed.
Good video
❤️
Really enjoyable watch Robert 👏👏
Don’t get enough George on here 😁
So comparing to my 20 year old clio 2 rs which is now on the ring for over 600 laps, I am quite happy I only had to change the Timingbelt and do oilchanges :D
Hehe you certainly should be happy:-)
Finally! 👍✌👏👏😍
I'm glad you are back and it's always awesome to see George work with the cars :D
Can't wait to see second part :)
My mind has been away from the Nürburgring and my project car for the last year or so Robert, but after a little shake down drive this afternoon and another of your excellent videos, I've decided there is no better time than the present to start planning my 2022 trip to see you all at Apex!
Hey Will! I really hope that the build has gone well on the project car. Tell me a little bit about it.
In the meantime looking forward to seeing you out at the ring and at Apex
Great to see an upload 👍🏁!!
That’s super-interesting to me, thanks for sharing! Looking forward to the video about the engine details
Glad to see you back. Will definitely be watching the 2nd part of this video and all the others after this.
Andre thank you so much! The next video comes out tomorrow
Liked and shared, always good to help promote these new TH-camrs 🤣 good to see you back 👍
haha THANKS Richard :)
Welcome back! I hope you'll have the time and start uploading more often again!
Welcome back to TH-cam! Happy for more content from you, I hope your pause was relaxing
Enjoy Liam!!!
299€ is a steal, just running cost is way beyon.
Happy to see you back on YT.
Good to be back:)
I watched some of the cost per lap breakdowns and it still amazes me how you guys make any money. 15k on a used motor seems like the profit for the year. Really awesome you guys can taxi cars of this caliber.
Welcome back, mate. Hope you’ve been well!
Rare treat.a Robert video. .makes me happy.sending best wishes.🙏
Hey Robert! Long time no see, good to see you back.
Welcome back Robert, missed this.
Good stuff! Real nitty gritty info. Nothing as good as running the ring could be cheap or last forever. Thanks for sharing
Interesting to hear and see this stuff.
Great information!
Great video! Thanks guys
It's been a while, but great to see a new upload again Robert! Unfortunate what happened to the M3 though but luckily it's getting fixed again
Hey this is how it goes!! We are learning along the way
This man is back! Looking forward to watching this
Enjoy Lawrence
Really love the stories of reliability , please bring up an episode where you compare these cars which ones are the more and less reliable in these let's call extreme usage conditions.
Finally a new video man! Someday before my rent hopefully Ill have the money to drive few laps with just one of these cars
Based on this video, kinda shows why you went having a rental Yaris GR. Sure things can go off on Toyota just like any other company, but they have shown durability over the years and its probably the only fun car Toyota ever makes nowadays along with the GR86. Also the fact that Lotus uses standard Camry engines for their cars which pretty much were born on tracks, shows how much of reliable engines they create. My problem with the company that apart from these 2 cars they create, all other cars aren't exciting at all to drive.
Get that man a hydraulic table to sit that engine on. It might get a few more kilometers out of his knees.
Welcome back 🤗
I was waiting for this comeback a while now 😄
Always a pleasure to hear you speak Robert 😉
Welcome back Robert I missed your videos!!
Heeeee! Robert is back!!! - Great! Now: Silence. - I want to enjoy that moment.
Cool video 👍🏻
Welcome back Robert i recently rewatched you're other video's
Well I have to thank you for that :-) and I apologize for not having anything the last months
Poor George. Obviously he's working as fast as he can and Robert just sits and talk slow and carefully keeping the dialogue going!
Hey we had fun chattin:-)
A rare Robert Mitchell appeared on my feed
Great interesting video. I have a feeling that when Porche overall maintenance costs are totaled up it would show their build and engineering quality in comparison to the others BMW for instance. Not putting BMW down as they are a great Ring car.
You very well could be right
Damn robert! Back at it again with the tier 1 content
Welcome back! would be god to hear what you have been up to? If family then I don't blame you, no need to explain! If rebuilding with in the flood community would be interesting? This is a good guide for the common person to realise that cars are designed to run on a road at normal speeds and not flat out! And when you do run them flat out things wear out a lot quicker and the life span of items is massively reduced! liked the comment of fitting an LS motor, but which one and then the fuel usage would be a lot more and its still being run flat out so things will continue to fail quicker than normal usage? All valid questions? Plus a fitting an LS would take a fair bit of alteration! What you have done with the M3 is very impressive! Friends have returned and said you must sit in the back lol, I think 35k of full sends is very good on a Engine that has not had so much modified, A director of a private race team once told me "A flat out mile on a race track is the equivalent of 12 road miles" How right he was is a guess? Cheers & Welcome back! 👍
Wellcome back!
the Kohut
Great to see you back 😁
Hi Robert , Happy see you back !!❤️❤️❤️
Hey there!
@@RobertMitchell ,😘👍
Great stuff Robert. Just a quick question: who did the power upgrade? Really impatient for part 2 of the teardown :)
First of all, I'm no expert what so ever. Maybe change oil more frequently and your engine last a little bit longer? Who knows, that's the first thought I had. I don't know... :S
Anyway, good luck with the new engine + transmission and so on. Btw, great video. Love these kind of stuff. Would love to see more ;D
Wouldn't have helped in this case even if they changed the oil every day
Very interesting. Will or have you done a compete discussion on maintenance on the Porsche also?
My favourite influencer!
Robert, please purchase a table or a rig for motor maintenance - I guess George would appreciate …🙂🔧⚙️🔩🪤
Haha you’re the winner.
Welcome back Robert
Thats Tom
I've been driving Audis on the Ring for years and the engines last tens of thousends of Kilometers. This only happens to BMWs!
As an F82 CS owner, I'm curious how a C63S or Alfa Romeo Quad of same gen would fare to the rigors of Apex Taxi usage. F8X makes an easy argument as the most reliable M car made to date. This video is right up my alley. Thank you.
From what I’ve seen the c63!94 Alfa would be more work and not as simple to get parts
And he’s back in the game!!
Have you all ever had a crank hub spin on any of your S55 powered vehicles?
HE'S HERE! HE'S BACK! AND WE LOVE IT!!!
Loukas. Good to see ya!
Welcome back!
thx kinezool
So uh.... where the heck you been?
Welcome back btw.
So the turbos outlast the engines? What is the most reliable car you have now? The gt2?
Misha should go more often.. Robert takes over 😃
Hehe thats how history plays out
I wonder if changing oil every time brake pads are due might give you an extra 10,000 kilometers out of the block.
Welcome back Robert! We missed you and the team!
As an F87 DCT owner, you replace the transmission at the same time as the engine to prevent failure or was it in need of replacement as well?
Been missing these videos!
I'd like to know how the roll cage was made for a 4 seater and still retain the rear seats?
Welcome back! 😍
He’s back!
Nice!
Thanks!
Who's the new guy that keeps talking to George l.o l.....Good to have you back sir...
🤣🤣
He back.
Hello folks 🤘😎🤘🇬🇧
Waaayyyyyyneeee
Wait what who is this guy?
This Roger guy kinda knows his stuff. Maybe I’ll join this channel. Lol
Welcome back ROBERT
Some intruder 🤣
Missed your videos. You've apparently postponed or cancelled Lasik surgery. Since I had cataract surgery on both eyes a few years ago, I have the best vision of my like. Only need glasses for reading.
nice
Why continue running the F80 and not look at other sedans(brands) as alternatives? Or do you think this is normal wear and tear? Very curious
He is alive
and kicking
What happened to the motor? This is the S55, right? Generally speaking, BMW straight 6 motors are stout. It’s the plastic bits connected that can be an issue, however. Who’s bouncing the motor off the limiter? 😀
They can be stout but there’s very few that have this kind of use. In tomorrow’s video we tear inyk it And share exactly what happened
@@RobertMitchell Thanks, was asking myself the same thing.
Wait what?! A video?!
Hell froze over 🤯
Hey Robert! Nice to see you. Great content, I know you have spoken about the maintenance aspects of a Ring machine before and this is awesome. I do have 1 out of left field question; do you consider kpg in your operating costs. I would assume you do but it doesn’t get mentioned that often and thought it might be an interesting discussion point for the taxi and rental program! Thanks as always
Kpg as in fuel economy? I can calculate that but we just rock it. Don’t worry about it as we won’t buy a car or not due to consumption.
Would it be easier to run a main car, and a backup instead of one car you always need to have 100% every lap? This allows you to have a trainee working on the other low pressure car whist the head tech is sorting the money car.
Where are you buying the used motors?
Another great video, do you find the Porsche's more reliable?
So far the GT two motor has lasted 45,000 km but the transmission only lasted 44,000.
The BMW motors are lasting 35 to 36,000 but the transmission lasted 71
Awesome stuff, keen on seeing the second part!
its all edited up and its ready tomorrow
LS swap?
we for sure joked about it!!
Do m4 and m3 have same turbos and what is service and longevity like for turbo components
I was wathing the video and had to pause for a second. Is the exhaust manifold on the second turbo broken? I mean, the flange.
Very interesting videos. Thank you for share them
I don’t think it was broken?!
Well, well, well!
Look who has surfaced!
( hehehehehehehe….)
you should be supported by the manufacturers as development partners...
I would love to be but I don’t think they care :-) it seems like it would be logical but they do what they do and as long as the motors get out of warranty they’re happy
what rims are those on the M3
How many of those kms were on the track? Was it new and only run there?
The m3 only runs on the ring. Has just over 71.000km now and was bought new with 0km