The Five Best Defensive Carry Ammos
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Underwood Extreme Defender in 65 grain is now by far the best ammo in either .380, 9mm or 357 sig. It's also great in .45 120 grain. It will go threw hard surfaces and still always preform like nothing was there, and stop at 18 inches. More damage than H.P. rounds without the need to expand to stop before over penetrating, That's the best round you can get right now. Low recoil because of low weight but high energy because high fps.
It's not printed on the boxes, but critical defense is made for short barrel under 3" and critical duty is made for duty size guns. This is according to the Hornady reloading supply catalog.
Interesting to know. I have a service pistol (Astra A-100), and have been running the Duty rounds. I chose them over the Defense rounds because my needs include the ability to shoot through a windshield or car door, as I drive for Uber for a living, so the odds I need my rounds to excel at barrier penetration is pretty high, and all the tests I've seen show the Duty rounds outperforming the Defense rounds when shooting through windshields and car doors. Glad to hear they're also the correct round for a 3.7" barrel.
Are all defense rounds +p or do they have normal for 9mm
@@luisorozco5535 they have both and they also have light recoil rounds depending on the caliber.
@@lonewanderer3603 my guy actually replied on a reply to a comment he made 6 years ago. Proper legend. Also thank you for the info, didn’t know that critical duty was intended for longer barrels. It’s what I use in my CZ P09 with a 115mm (4.54 inch) barrel
@@michaeljull1175 I believe they use different powders depending on what burn rate is appropriate for barrel length. The projectiles are the same. Critical Duty is the correct choice for the gun you are carrying.
1. Underwood +P Xtreme Defender 90gr 9mm
2. Hornady +P Critical Duty 135gr 9mm
3. Hornady +P Critical Defense 135gr 9mm
EDC - Walther PPQ M2 9mm 4". I picked the Underwood because of the barrier blind nature of the slug and the PWC that they create. Also, who am I to argue the finer points of fluid mechanics and fluid dynamics :0)
The Federal Premium has a soft spot in my heart because looking through my parents ammo boxes I found some of that stuff they bought before they divorced. So it reminds me of my parents getting along and buying ammo together.
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147 grain HST. Dont even need to use +p. The standard round gets deeper penetration than +p in a lot of tests. One of the recommended rounds by Dr Gary Roberts who has performed ballistics test for several law enforcement agencies.
BTW Massad Ayoob uses .45 gold dots. He's pretty smart too.
Massad and smart should not be paired together. Most of his advice is absolute garbage
I'm going to suggest Hornady Critical Defense for short barrels, not short distance. And Critical Duty for longer barrels (That's specifically what Hornady says the difference is for). If you're a cop and you need to shoot through a car door or window, the Critical Duty is intended to do that job. The reason I prefer Hornady is the plastic filler in the tip. As I live in the north where people often wear multiple layers of denim or wool a traditional hollow point has been known to snag in them causing premature expansion or even spinning (a bullet that's sideways on impact won't expand well if at all). The Critical Duty 135gr +P 9mm has plenty of stopping power and is a very accurate round.
Regardless of your choice, don't base it on cost and DO run a few boxes through your carry gun to make sure it eats it reliably EVERY time.
The expansion is not good.
I use Hornady critical defense too.
My choices are:
1. HST
2. Gold Dot
3. Ranger-T
I haven't felt the desire to explore solid copper for self defense. Too expensive for what it is. The rounds I listed are available in a variety of flavors with 50 round bulk LE packaging for $20-26 per 50 rounds (9mm).
Agree 100%. That's my top 3 in order also.
IMO pick a premium self defense HP from a major manufacturer and be done with it. The most important is that whatever you pick has to work in your gun. And the only want to know that is to run at least a couple boxes through your weapon.
Federal HST is my top choice
Rotorwind mine too
"They always get the job done" that always baffles me. Like how many people have you killled? Lol
How many you got?
antoine malone jr, As a civilian? None, and I hope it stays that way.
@@georgia9161 As a Veteran, keeping America safe since 1977. Semper Fi,...
Multiple stuffed animals with whiped cream in their mouth
Who would ever want to see the bullet, thanks for NOT showing them... boxes and pretty colors are sooo much more exciting..
I was hoping to see the bullets too.
oooo, pretty colors.
Meh, boxes are good enough (it's what you see in the store, and most places don't allow you to open the box in the store), but yeah, seeing the bullets would have been nice.
@@Gottaculat Anytime I run across a brand of ammo I'm not familiar with I open the box and take one out, hold it up to the light and go so far as to compare it with a round from my carry gun if it's the same caliber. If the box is taped at both ends I'll cut the tape on one end for access. Never have I been asked to not do it or had any comment from store employees, for that matter. But, then again, I buy a ton of guns and ammo from my local gun stores and they know me on sight.
Always used Hornady Critical Defense, or Speer Gold Dot. Mostly since im in NY and that’s about all my local shop carries.
*I just LOVE my 165gr HST's.*
I love Remington Golden Sabers, especially in .45ACP.
I keep critical defense ammo in my subcompact pistol that I carry in the summer. But in my full size pistol, which I choose to carry in the winter, I'll use Critical Duty for greater penetration through thick winter clothing.
Speer Gold Dot here. In 9mm and 357. Nobody around here stocks Corbon. On another note, I watched Ian shoot clean through a level 3A vest with a 5.45 x 18 tiny assed Russian handgun. The round has the same ballistics as a 22LR. But it has a steel core. Remember the KTY ammo from a million years ago? same concept. A steel core is the trump card.
I run Hornady Critical Duty 175gr .40S&W for my EDC pistol, a full size service pistol, the Astra A-100.
I chose the Duty over the Defense because I drive professionally for a living, which means I'm a lot more likely to need my gun on the road than I am at home or in a store, and in the event that I don't have time to exit my vehicle to defend myself or my passengers, I need a round and caliber that I fully trust to penetrate barriers like a windshield or car door, and still have the lethality to put down a threat outside my vehicle. That's why someone like me runs such a configuration. Probably not the best for other applications, but pretty damn good for the application I'm most likely to need.
Also makes for a good defensive round when camping out in the Cascade Mountains here in WA, as we have black bear and mountain lions, and I've seen both while camping. They usually don't come near camp, but if they do, it's nice to have some peace of mind on my hip. I'm also pretty poor, so I only have the one handgun, and it was about all I could afford. Really damn nice pistol, though, truly a forgotten weapon I wish Ian would do a video on... right after I buy up some more spare parts and mags, lol.
Yankee... one I think you need to order and give a try is Fort Scott Munitions. This is a fairly new company that is located in the town where I went to high school. It is solid copper spun so it has good barrier penetration and relies on tumbling to cause a lot of damage... and it is lead free which I know you like. They have fared well in tests and I personally carry this in my 9 mm and .380 carry guns after doing a 500 round test. Again, I think you should order some and give them a try.
Milsurp Mike , I agree. I just started shooting them. Awesome ballistics. They do create a bigger flash but I'm cool with that. At both ranges I go to, all the employees carry fort scott
DPX number 1, gold dot number 2, and then all the rest 3,4and 5 in no order...IMHO.
As always well done Yankee Marshal!!! Thanks!!!!
I am happy that you mentioned the ARX rounds. JHP rounds are optimized for a fairly narrow range of velocities. Once you go below you get little or no expansion. The reference barrel length for 380, 9mm, 40 cal and 357 are 4" and 5" for 45 ACP. A round that is great in G-19 may suck in a subcompact. Non expanding rounds like the Leigh bullet and ARX are ideal for short barrels.
While taking my CCW class, our instructor warned us against selecting carry ammo with names like "zombie killer" due to the perception it might leave with a jury if you ever had to appear in court. Instead, he recommended using the same carry ammo as your local police department. In my case, it's Spear Gold Dot. Apparently, it's an easier case to make that you're a reasonable gun owner since you're carrying the same ammo as your local PD and not some post-nuclear apocalyptic nut job. Thoughts?
Those 20 round boxes of defensive ammo are the biggest scam ever pulled on CCW people. If you order it you can always get 50 round boxes of the same kind for about the same price.
They are a scam but you can thank the ATF for that, box stores don't want to get flagged. Sell a bunch of 50rd boxes, THEY'RE going in bulk, quickly, and we all know it. Now the box stores have the ATF swarming them giving them the what the hell speech! So it is a hustle, but mass shootings steered the direction.
Where can i order hornady round box of 50 for same price
i am a grown ass man
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here I am still carrying the same old Remington 158 grain lswchp 38 special + p that my dad and granddad taught me to carry 30 years ago ... hey at least I got with the times a little , I do carry a LCR now instead of a all steel snubby
Love the channel and have been subbed for a long time but I have to disagree with plastic ammo as a future self defense load. I have shot thousands of rounds of polymer ammo and it just doesn't have the same weight transfer as metal rounds, yes it has higher velocity than standard rounds but it takes velocity and weight to make wound channels. Polycase ammo is around 1500 fps, shoot it at steel and see what happens, not saying it sucks by any means it is a great way to practice that's why I have shot thousands of rounds lol.
You get attacked by a lot of steel assailants?
TheYankeeMarshal lol i do, a lot more than people anyway, but physics are physics a projectile moving the same speed does more damage if it's heavier, for the same volume lead will always have greater mass
Honest Outlaw Reviews but the lighter ARX rounds are traveling MUCH faster since they are lighter, and are purposely designed to shovel and tumble like light rifle rounds. they aren't ment to be the same weight, they are meant to shoot at faster velocity. velocity is more important for muzzle energy.
Alexander Guzman 147gr at 1000 fps does not match 50gr at 1500
Honest Outlaw Reviews yeah you're right. it comes short actually. federal hst 147 gr shot at 1000 fps is 327 ftlbs. while ARX which is actually 85 gr shot at 1450 fps comes in around 415 ft lbs.
1- Golden Sabers. BJHP 124 Grain.. The rest on my list dont even matter because Golden Sabers are the best bullet ever made
2- American Gunner
3- Federal Hydro Shock
4- Critical Defense/Zombie Max
5- Federal HST
You can't beat Federal HST.
gwidwock winchester ranger t is a close match
Federal HST 124g 9mm is best
I agree
Don’t over think your ammo. Federal HST and Hornady Critical Duty are the best I’ve tested. I like the Paul Harrell meat test which I’ve done on my own, and needless to say, holes were made, bones were broken and no messy over penetration. The more holes you can make the faster the result. Rapid loss in blood pressure is the goal.
Idk about extreme penetrating rounds for self defense I don’t wanna hit two birds with one stone
It's the round that prevents the bad guy from harming you and your family...
I carry either the HST or the Critical Defense, but the Underwood Extreme and Penetrator look interesting. I also carry the Underwood Gold Dots in my 10mm. One of the big advantages of the HST is cost at about $20 for 50 rounds. It allows me to practice more with my actual defensive round. I also need to look at the Corbon all copper bullet. Living in California, it is only a matter of time before they ban any bullet that is not fully copper.
Finally back to doing some fun videos
I love how many people want to talk about the so called best ammo. Who cares. Most modern ammo is reliable and will get the job done. Many people are not practicing in general and even fewer are practicing with their expensive carry ammo. Usually it's the first person who puts shots on target who wins. I've never seen someone get shot and say oh no I've been shot with a critical defense bullet! A bullet is a bullet, I don't care if it didn't expand or work perfectly as long as the shot hit it's target. The bargain ammo on the shelf will have a nearly identical outcome as the high end stuff.
These days, just finding ANY ammo is the challenge. Holding out to get your favorite ammo will leave you carrying a paperweight 😊. For now, my advice is if it even fits your gun, buy it.
1. Underwood
2. Lehigh Defense
3. Federal HST
4. Speer Gold Dot
5. Cor Bon
How about the Remington Golden Saber?
Thumb rhythm is right on. Thumbs up.
Hornady has performed well in every single gun that I have tried it in.
Hornady Critical Duty is also great for hard barriers. It was designed to go through glass and cardoors because it was made for law enforcement.
3 videos and everyone had a commercial. Yankee must be becoming advertiser friendly.
Totally agree. People preach HST, but they're a tad underpowered for some applications, like barrier penetration, and don't perform nearly as well as underwood or dpx
The 9mm underwood extreme defender by far out performs the DPX. The wound cavity at largest for the DPX is .72" which is huge. But the extreme defender by underwood creates a wound cavity twice as large in Diameter and almost twice the depth. The underwood in 9mm gets 1.6" wound cavity and min 17" deep. These numbers came from my extensive testing using FBI gel block properly calibrated and using 3 layers of denim and one rack of pork ribs. Below are my other results with other calibers.
.45acp
120 gr +P Extreme Defender
Overall Depth average 18.0"
Wound channel Diameter 2.3"
Average 2.3" wound channel Length 8.5"
Average Velocity 1,420
Average ft lbs 537
.40s&w
115 gr Extreme Defender (no +P offered)
Overall Depth average 17.7"
Wound channel Diameter 1.8"
Average 1.8" wound channel Length 9.1"
Average Velocity 1,400
Average ft lbs 500
9mm
90 gr +P Extreme Defender
Overall Depth average 17.0"
Wound channel Diameter 1.6"
Average 1.6" wound channel Length 7.7"
Average Velocity 1,475
Average ft lbs 435
380acp
65 gr +P Extreme Defender
Overall Depth average 15"
Wound channel Diameter 1.5"
Average 1.5" wound channel Length 7.1"
Average Velocity 1,400
Average ft lbs 283
If you study and test ammo like I do as a hobby you will quickly realize these test results above are double the specs of any ammo offered on the market today. In fact when I first heard rumors of what this ammo was doing in tests I did not believe it, so I tested it myself and the specs came out even better. Don't take my word for it, test it for yourself. The DPX ammo in .45 at best opened up wound channel of .97" while underwood opened 2.3" on average. Ridiculous. Also the best velocities you'll see out of .45acp defensive ammo is usually no greater than 950 ft/sec. the underwood was averaging 1,422. You should see .357. Holy cow. BTW, the Corbon DPX is my second favorite defensive ammo.
"Pro-tip": what ever you choose, if you don't change out your defense ammo relatively often, which a lot of people can't necessarily afford to do for either monetary or operational reasons, long-term carry ammo should be a crimped cartridge. I carried a couple of magazines of a particular highly regarded defense ammo a few years back that were not crimped and the projectiles ended up walking around in their cases to the point where when I finally replaced them 6 months later, I took them to the range and.... They failed to fire. Not just once, but 13 out of 35 rounds. 1 ended up obstructing the barrel. The horror I felt realizing I had been carrying dangerous and useless rounds for half a year, (I'm positive they were fine for the first few months,) made me reevaluate my criteria for a personal defense round from the ground up. Now, if you can afford to rotate out every two or three months operationally and monetarily, a non-crimped round is likely just fine, but you need to be very aware of this potential issue. For my own situation, I now carry crimped rounds with sealed primers only. Just thought I'd share.
People have asked me what the best defense pistol ammo is, my answer , I dont know I havent been able to shoot anyone with different ammo to know.
I used to carry HST in everything, but after seeing how the .380 and 9mm performed in testing, I switched to the Hornady Critical Defense in those calibers. The .9mm tended to over-penetrate and the .380 was just bad overall. I still carry HST in my 1911.
Sorry so much total fail in this video. Best Carry ammo is
1) Federal HST
2) Winchester Ranger-T,
3) Gold Dot,
4) Critical Defense or Duty. And you got all wrong the difference between Critical Defense and Duty, Defense is made for shorter barrel CCW guns while Duty is optimized for Duty sized Guns with full length barrels not by the distance you are shooting. Remember all hollow point bullets are designed for a certain velocity range to function their best. Some want longer barrels and some shorter for more or less velocity. And yes if it is too fast or too slow it will not expand.. Use the ammo designed for the type of gun you are using.
HST is by far the best one out there for both Short and Duty size barrells in every single test. HST expands every single time and over wide velocity range and with proper penetration. Might be why it is now the number 1 load used by Law Enforcement.
Why did you even mention Hydra-Shock. It was replaced by the HST line over 10 years ago. Spend more time learning about modern ammo and less time remember how it was 20 years ago. Ammo has come a long way since then.
gamer8567 HST has been my baby since ShootingTheBull opened my eyes. That dudes got the science.
gamer8567 agreed 100%
think you hit it on the head for the 9mm...honorable mention to the Pdx1.
gamer8567 HST and Winchester Defend are the most consistent. Ranger T-series was renamed PDX1 and are still excellent. I don't believe they are still manufacturing under the Ranger name.
HST is where it's at man I love it too! I've got it from 150gr micro- 124+p to 147 standard pressure ..doesn't matter always penetrates adequately or better, and ALWAYS expands enormous!!! But one thing saying why even mention the hydra shok..? I gotta disagree there man yes it don't hold up with HST, gold dots, hornadyCDef/ Cdut, but there are still tons of bullets on the shelf that were head scratchers when they first landed, and still are to this day, and 10 years from now hydra shok will still be sitting there because it's nothing fancy nor is it crap and it still works.. I can't speak for everywhere but here in southern Oklahoma & Texas there's a bunch of older men with that
"if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. So they don't care about new technology or advancing bullets if anything it annoys them.. if something works then that's that they buy it til they die, and I gotta confess in my bullet collection I actually have a whole shelf full of hydra- shoks..like hundreds of them for .380, 9mm, .45 cause I'd still rather use them then FMJ target rounds any day when the world goes to shit..and no (not the zombie apocalypse) although I do have handful of those boxes ..I believe more so in the ..
"Crooked Government apocalypse" that's something A LOT more realistic with our country and politicians today... anyway didn't mean to ramble I actually like most of the ammo in the video for the most part, and own half of them but I do agree HST is the best all around defensive round for the every day scenario especially in modern calibers like 9mm or .40
I've been shooting ARX in my EDC, a Glock 43. One of the reasons I like it better than the Gold Dot or the Critical Defense is that it is a lot less recoil and it is easier to stay on target.
I’ve found that the extreme defender does better penetrating hard barriers than the extreme penetrators. Speed kills. But I’ve only tested them in 45super at 1,700 FPS....
Hornady duty VS defense... Defense is for barrels 3.5" or shorter... duty is for pistols longer than 4"
No honorable mention for Federal HST or Winchester Ranger T?
Tracy Ranger is great. I’ve been carrying it for 2 years now in 9mm
Two of the best rounds out there.
I like federal hydra shock or Fiocchi extreme for self-defense. Both work well in my Walther PPS M2 or my H&K P30SKS. But to be honest even hard ball ammo will put a world of hurt on somebody.
I carry two 9mms with Buffalo bore 147gr +p hard cast and seismic 185gr rounds.. 👍🏻
1) speer gold dots
2) pdx1
3) underwood xtreme defender
4) Hst
5) civil defense
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Gold Dots are basically Cor Bons...They are both a bonded jacket hollow point
I love the little thumb dance that is in sync with your voice...
I stick to Speer goldot mainly cause it works great and it’s what my local PD carries
There’s no one “best” defense ammunition. The one that’s best is that one you can shoot consistently and accurately under stress. Also, regardless of the ammo manufacturer what’s most important is shot placement. A .22 can kill you just as effectively as a higher caliber ammo if of course is place in a vital area... bigger doesn’t always equate to better.
I don't care about gel test.expansion or if it goes through clothing all you need to know it works and goes through your target who or what ever it be
Love the channel but I can't agree or believe those would be your choices. No mention of HST or ranger t? Both of those are ahead of the rest by a good bit with gold dots not far behind...
I used Cor-Bon with a cheap gun and bulged the barrel once. Hi-Power knock off.
they all do the job. but i like the hst 147 gr. in 9mm. or corbon in any other caliber.
Please review Paul Harrell and his video review of hyper ammunition vs regular ammunition. Youre paying for advertising.
I really like Paul but he didnt measure the expansion. If you look closely you'll
see the HST had the best expansion.
Yeah, its hype.
Golden Sabers BJHP are the real deal
I don't think I would want to be in court having shot someone with ammunition called Zombie Max. HST for me thank you.
I love the Xtreme P but i wouldn’t categorize it as one of the best for most defensive situations. And I do carry it but as a secondary round for a very unlikely situation, because it is very effective in penetration
In .357 SIG, give me a Liberty Civil Defense 50 grain fragmentation bullet at 2,300 FPS. If I’m carrying .45 ACP, give me Federal HST 230 grain +P.
If you look at a comprehensive test, like Luck Gunners and also the work done by TNOUTDOORS9, Federal HST and Winchester Ranger T seem to do very well. If he uses 357, there are some other choices he may wish to consider...I just don't get the hard barrier mindset. If he ever has to shoot someone and it goes through them and hits a bystander, he'll learn too late.
check out liberty civil defense , 40 cal 2000 fps 500 fpe 2 inch dispersion 12 inches penetration at 25 m and at 60 grain very light..
I used to carry the Cor Bon 125 gr 9mm I ordered directly from their website but will not use them again they did not complete an order I paid for and have not acknowledged numerous emails. It’s a bummer because they were one of the last manufacturers to load the 9mm to its potential
So where does Remington Golden Sabers rank? That's what I have loaded in all my Mags and Revolvers. 9mm 124gr. +p, 357 125gr.
I think the bonded one are the best choice for the money and still good performance
Critical Defense doesn't seem to come in a 50 round box....therefore it's too expensive to practice with and vet your pistol as you SHOULD be doing. I only consider ammo that come in 50 round boxes. HST is usually the winner for me.
ALL guns need vetted with the combination of ammo and magazines you intend to use for defense. Even guns with a great rep for reliability can and do have problems sometimes.
Well the vetting isn't just for the gun....it's for YOU the shooter too. I put 200 rounds of any load I am considering for defense through my carry gun (and some of that 200 goes in each mag) before I will load it up for defensive carry. With many SD loads only coming in a 20/25 round box this can get EXPENSIVE. Federal HST and GoldDot and several other are available in 50 round boxes for about the same average price as the others in a 20/25 round box. Seems like only a CHUMP would buy handgun ammo in a 20/25 round box.
I've been carrying HST, recommended by a close friend of mine. My 3 EDC rotation guns eat it well, and I havnt had any issues with it. However...any modern day ammo will do just fine imo.
Federal Premium Tactical HST JHP I like the best for my pistols.
You're right on about the Zombie Max loads. I bought a box of them because they were $16 and Critical Defenses were $18.
Only thing about Hornady is their brass is too short. If you're using once it's no problem, but if you like to practice with your carry ammo and then reload the casings for fun plinking, it could cause some issues.
Pretty scary....I completely agree with YM!!! Well almost... I'm not A Hornady fan. I've got Underwood, DPX AND GOLD DOT SHORT BARREL on hand.
Nice video. I'm sure any round with a "DP" in it would make the top of your list, LOL.
Barnes tac-xpd are a solid choice too. And I can find them locally for $17 box of 20. Also the Buffalo Barnes is actually what I'm using now. The 140g Barnes copper projectile In 40 sw.
All good choices. I like the DPX as well. That's what I use in my Glock 22. Federal HST is getting a lot of love these days as well.
I use horady critical defense-.38, caliber
HST for 9mm (regular pressure) 124 grain.
Mac's video on the extreme defender sold me on them. Most consistent round shot through anything with effective expansion.
I'm kind of surprised you didn't mention federal HST. They're in my top 3 with the Lehigh round being number 1 and critical duty being number 3.
I carry the Ruger ARX in 38 special. It's a light projectile, 77 grains. I get +p velocity without the recoil.
I've only shot the Critical Defense and DPX in low light/dark conditions. I'd be curious about muzzle flash for all of these rounds in the dark. One of the reasons I keep Critical Defense in my home defense pistols is the low muzzle flash.
Best ammo is the one your carry gun will eat every time. HST Gold Dot Critical Duty all fine and mess you up. But only if you have run 150+ at one time through with zero problems. Just switched to underwood defender in 9mm and 10 mm carry. Bad stuff. Loads flawlessly. Just expensive for practice.
Thanks Yank..
Your opinion is valued
For me corbon is a revolver only round. Simi auto jam, lever action jam, have to dam near take the gun apart to unjam it!just my personal experience
Yesterday I wrapped up my personal testing of DPX vs Underwood Extreme Defender. DPX doesn’t come close to the Underwood Extreme Defender in wound channel cavitation. Also The Extreme Penetrator doesn’t perform as well as the Extreme Defender version. I will admit the DPX is for sure my second favorite. My third favorite is Winchester Ranger T Series. I test defensive ammo as a hobby for almost 8 years and have spent close to $15k doing so over 7 years between gel blocks pork ribs denim and ammo costs. I have never seen any ammo in any caliber come close to Extreme Defender +P. If anyone knows of a better defensive ammo please ping me and I’ll test it to see if it can dethrone Underwood Extreme Defender.
I like critical duty, been using it for years but I am currently testing Xtreme penetrator 10mm, loving it so far.
What a coincidence! Both Yankee and my girlfriend think that DP is the best!
For 9mm I will probably remain loyal to FEDERAL 9BPLE 115gr +P+ JHPs for a very long time. Maybe forever. $14.95 for a 50 round box. 100% feed reliability and a legendary reputation among law enforcement. Screw those $25 for a box of 20 "designer" loads.
my problem with the Ruger ARX rounds are that they are both low weight, low density, and (I think, could be wrong) relatively soft. this all makes for a round that may do very well in gel, but one that(like you've said in other videos) would seem like it would not be very good at all with penetration, especially things like bone.I personally like gold dots and corbon. I think just wish they made their hollow points/PowR'Ball with bonded bullets, and with nickel plated cases(not that nickel plated cases are a huge deal for me, but you would think at the prices corbon ammo goes for compared to say, HSTs, or gold dots, that they would at least have these two things.)yes, they have the DPX rounds(which I currently carry in my glock 23 until I get my g19), but due to the larger projectiles the velocities are significantly slower.if corbon would make these changes, I think their 125gr 9mm+p going 1250fps out of a g19 would be an ideal round(about 15 inches of penetration in gel tests.)their new MPR rifle ammo sounds awesome though, and as soon as they do another run of it in going to try it out for my new home/self defense round(69gr .223 at 3000fps out of a 16inch barrel, polymer tipped hollow point, very high BC.) though as you can imagine, it's very expensive(and hard to find.)
I disagree on your 410 shot shell choice. I have a Taurus Judge Public Defender Poly with a 2" barrel and I have fired many different types of ammunition through it including your Hornady Critical Defense. I have found that the Hornady will spread very quickly and pattern anywhere between 3" to 5" apart from one another in a distance of 7 yards. My choice of carry rounds for my Judge is Federal 000 Buck. This round has four 9mm sized bullets per shot that pattern within an inch of each other from 7 yards away. Way better than the Hornady! So if anyone is watching this and has a Taurus Judge or a Smith and Wesson Governor please keep in mind the Federal 000 Buck.
I didn't realize you have vast experience shooting ppl with various different rounds. It seems like it's just a list of your preferences. Bc if you were going off gel tests or whatever HST would have made the list.
I load my own, get a bit more punch than factory and cheaper , can buy gold dot and xtp and several other designs for reloading.
Should try the sierra safari grand slams they have a tungsten core, MAX penetration.
Yankee credits list getting long, may have to switch it to a double column before too long or credits may run longer than the rest of your video.
Ghost Shadow careful if you ever have to use them. They really love to use reloads against you in court
I really haven't looked into it too much. I just use the critical defense that I got for Christmas.
the youtube channel Shooting the bull has a long running series of ammo quests, which feature direct comparisons of different defencive rounds. The comparisons are done with subcompact pistols since his focus is on ccw defence ammo. He finished testing 380acp and did a ranking video and the winners were federal HST and then several brands that use hornady's xpt bullet (hornady custom duty, Fiochi extremas, and another I'm forgetting). The gold dot and corbon were middle of the pack at best.
No not on widshields it penterates wood and metal pretty good tho.. trees. leaves huge holes. if you got hit in the shoulder with one of these in any caliber, it would leave a chunk of flesh missing the size of a golf ball. they flatten out pretty good