Toyota GR86 (2023) - Road vs Race

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
  • The Toyota GR86 is the quintessential sports car starter pack - it offers a front engine, rear-wheel drive layout with two doors, a low-slung driving position and a price tag that comes in under R1 000 000... comfortably. It's the best way to get to grips with pure driving engagement in a new car for under a bar. Toyota's passion for creating enthusiast vehicles is clearly seen in their Gazoo Racing offerings that include the GR Yaris, GR Supra, GR86 and GR Corolla.
    In the hands of the enthusiast, the GR86 is able to carve up both roads and track with aplomb and many owners will be keen to exploit the vehicle's dynamic nature through the bends and sweeps offered on a track day. We wanted to see how the GR86 fares on track in road trim and how far off of the stock road-going car the Cup-prepared race car actually is. The results will surprise you!

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  • @silverbullet831
    @silverbullet831 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The cup cars are amazing. Had a blast racing them this season. Amazing brakes and sequential gearbox.

  • @demonslayerproductions
    @demonslayerproductions ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I own a automatic gr86 and your one of the only people who like the auto 2

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would naturally prefer the manual, but for this purpose and in the name of longevity and close competition, the Auto is a great choice. [Chad]

    • @cayman9815
      @cayman9815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      when I ever buy a GR86 it will be automatic
      had a GT86 auto for 5 years
      now Porsche Cayman981 PDK

  • @superturd1234321
    @superturd1234321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great clutch work, nice driving buddy. ❤️

  • @michaeljohn1160
    @michaeljohn1160 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For racing, paddle makes sense. For daily, I’ll take a manual box all day.

    • @apexbreakfast
      @apexbreakfast ปีที่แล้ว

      You could also say that vice versa

    • @sshah2545
      @sshah2545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. I came to say this. I know manual wouldn't be as fast on a track, but damn it fun. And I love my manual, but using it in traffic is a nightmare

    • @nathanthompson6562
      @nathanthompson6562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you drive a manual you have skill. It takes more skill to shift in a manual and you're more in control of the car. It's like you're one with it. Paddle shift takes skill out of shifting. So no driver error because a computer does it for you. So might as well say auto. Takes no skill to use a auto or paddle shift.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the one make toyota series aint exactly the pinicle of speed why not use the manual instead at least there will be some drama in heel and toe and missshifting to spice up the race since all the car will be the same it really shows the driver skill in dancing on the pedal during a race.

  • @radupirvu6413
    @radupirvu6413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The cup cars exhaust sounds so much better than the simulated sound in street spec

  • @future_phonk
    @future_phonk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm curious how the cup cars are dealing with dips in oil pressure on turns. Particularly on long right hand sweepers. People have logged concerningly low oil pressures on track and possibly the cause of spun bearings.
    I know the cup cars are running an external oil cooler and possibly a bit of an overfill. But I've sen some of the cup cars break down with no explanation.

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Toyota never experienced any of this that you mention across 7 cars the whole of last year. The same cars are being campaigned again this year, and still not a single mechanical gremlins or fault so far. [Chad]

  • @jumboshirmp
    @jumboshirmp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How do I get that helmet without buying a GR Cup car??

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a regular Bell GT5 with some vinyl applied. [Chad]

  • @sutats
    @sutats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zooom zoom zooom. Oh GReat.

  • @HighMessart
    @HighMessart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im an owner of a GR86 automatic and its not as bad as many youtubers make it sound its still an amazingly fun drive (crisp /responsive) that gives you the option to gun it when you want too,
    I just feel its to the point that autos are unfairly stigmatized, almost like little kids setting up weird rules in the playground 🤣

    • @cayman9815
      @cayman9815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi
      good to hear you enjoy the automatic !
      as all reviews refer to manual…
      I have a Cayman981 PDK as my daily and thinking to buy GR86 automatic for trackdays

  • @future_phonk
    @future_phonk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the Bosch ECU make the automatics behave any differently?

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The South Africa GR Cup cars run the standard ECU with no modifications whatsoever. [Chad]

  • @dadhats
    @dadhats ปีที่แล้ว +2

    odd that they chose to use the standard auto. I could have sworn they used a sequential gearbox

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The North American GR86 Cup cars are fitted with sequential gearboxes, the South African one has to make do with the traditional torque convertor arrangement - it helps keep the racing affordable. [Chad]

  • @jonasbaine3538
    @jonasbaine3538 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    patiently waiting for reliable turbo/supercharger kits.

    • @mxrcurial_5398
      @mxrcurial_5398 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A jdl turbo kit is out rn and hks has a supercharger

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mxrcurial_5398 link to videos of someone actually driving with those kits?

    • @Chowder3
      @Chowder3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonasbaine3538 search it up yourself, tons of shops that actually have the kits installed and tested on some 2022 86/brz’s

    • @zydomason
      @zydomason ปีที่แล้ว

      Just imagine the oil leaks.

  • @cayman9815
    @cayman9815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir,
    thx great video and finally someone who likes the automatic!
    Q: this is completely stock automatic gearbox with no issues used under high load on track?
    Rgs

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a single issue at all, on any one of the cars, throughout all the racing so far. [Chad]

    • @cayman9815
      @cayman9815 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Autotradersa
      thanks for reply
      that is great news !

  • @michaeljohn1160
    @michaeljohn1160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noticed an exhaust difference between the two. Do they have the cabin engine speaker disabled in the cup one?

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a good question. I'm not sure but it wouldn't surprise me if it is disabled. [Chad]

    • @jasonoshima6839
      @jasonoshima6839 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It has a different exhaust than the stock GR86.

  • @wtjj3329
    @wtjj3329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do these cars run oil pan baffle?

    • @zydomason
      @zydomason ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there are some aftermarket baffles, but they are barely effective on the tight right turns where the oil pressure problem is the most noticeable

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, no baffles in these. Standard, unopened engines. [Chad]

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the 0-60 time in the cup car?
    I was told it’s slower than the road car

  • @stevengreen3739
    @stevengreen3739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when you are going around a turn at a 100 mph the wing helps for sure, this guy has no clue some how lmao

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only one of the tracks that these cars race at has corners that would be taken in excess of 160 km/h (100 mph) and even then, the mechanical grip is favoured over the aerodynamic grip. The cars are not set up with aero in mind. [Chad]

  • @MrFact01
    @MrFact01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's Akio Toyoda not Ayiko😂

  • @Teefs143
    @Teefs143 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That auto is 2.1 sec faster

    • @Autotradersa
      @Autotradersa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the difference that a set of tyres and brakes makes to the car. [Chad]

    • @Teefs143
      @Teefs143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Autotradersa good to know that auto is not as bad as all TH-camrs said! I should consider the auto because of traffic in my city.

    • @ak740_
      @ak740_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Teefs143 driven the auto and it’s a good deal faster than the manual. It’s actually shocking how fast the 0-60 is which is around the mid to high 5 second range in manual mode. I have no idea why all the reviews have been trashing the auto

  • @mharro88
    @mharro88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its yarras not yararse