Was Shroud That Good At CS:GO?

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  • @launders
    @launders  ปีที่แล้ว +326

    shroud and i are both from toronto. if you’d like to meet the cooler one….
    I’ll be at off world bar doing an IEM Rio watch party in Toronto on April 23rd (Grand finals!): bit.ly/3KOwfju

    • @whirl
      @whirl ปีที่แล้ว

      dap me up waste yute

    • @lejo4
      @lejo4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How is THE blast guy not casting the finals

    • @teared12761
      @teared12761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't wait to meet you launders my favourite caster the GOAT right here!! Please bring scrawny as your +1 see you at the bar my guy!

    • @samuelbelko6469
      @samuelbelko6469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@lejo4 cuz its iem event,not blast event.

    • @launders
      @launders  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teared12761 see ya there!

  • @tankfire20
    @tankfire20 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    Launders analysis is always so grounded. He really puts the human behind the player while also showing a bigger picture. He does this by understanding the players perspective in relationship to the bigger picture.

    • @thalberg-
      @thalberg- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Always an intelligent n nuanced take

    • @shivraj7100
      @shivraj7100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      don't forget the mayonnaise

  • @boomxhakalaca__8411
    @boomxhakalaca__8411 ปีที่แล้ว +587

    he won pro league season 4 against SK so i would count that as a big tournament win. 200k prize for winning back then was big.

    • @launders
      @launders  ปีที่แล้ว +181

      true! didn’t even remember that

    • @MrRtisch
      @MrRtisch ปีที่แล้ว +62

      But that kind of proves the Stewie point. C9 didn't win until he got there.

    • @TheSantifive
      @TheSantifive ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@MrRtisch I don't think it's about proving or disproving anything. It's more like he DID get at least one big title (within the context of the time). Neat bit of trivia too.

    • @lebronjames5287
      @lebronjames5287 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      and that was when the Brazilians were unbeatable

    • @Tryc3
      @Tryc3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TRUE

  • @ambivalence3741
    @ambivalence3741 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    Since you talk so much of what others have done for the game, I think we should reflect that onto you as well. Besides you being a great caster and making pro play more entertaining, you release content that encourages the community to generate a more psychologically healthy environment. This is some great stuff and as a community, we are obligated to thank you for what you are doing. ❤

    • @thalberg-
      @thalberg- ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fav caster and analyst ❤

    • @wutsdapoint
      @wutsdapoint ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I learned how to air strafe/kz from launders from his tutorial video way back. Flowers to him too.

    • @frank6048
      @frank6048 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Since you're talking so much about what others have done, why don't we talk about what you've done for CS then, huh?
      I have no idea, but seeing how you look like a nice individual, I guess you've done your best to keep the community healthy

    • @Hether6971
      @Hether6971 ปีที่แล้ว

      bot

    • @ambivalence3741
      @ambivalence3741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frank6048 u be smooth with it lmao

  • @Pluneto
    @Pluneto ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Really good video Launders, really like these type of retrospective type videos.

  • @nicholasanderson9072
    @nicholasanderson9072 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Commenting every video until the demos come back

  • @vooCSGO
    @vooCSGO ปีที่แล้ว +17

    wait til you find out what video i've been working on for the last month

  • @p0kel
    @p0kel ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I'd love to see this type of video on some other pros from yesteryears. Maybe go the other way and talk about pros who are underrated today (new players never saw them in their peak). GuardiaN for example would be sick! That guy has got to be some of the safest pair of hands I've ever seen one the awp.

    • @yaboykirby7789
      @yaboykirby7789 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The guy survived the AWP nerf like it was nothing and was the best AWPer in the world for like 3 years

  • @Heywashi
    @Heywashi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    having seen falcons play in the rmr's this really just explains how i felt about kennyS in the current meta, mechanically he's a monster, but he never seemed to be able to get a read on the game or take control of things, always getting caught off guard. just shows how much there is to cs than meets the eye.
    Also great video mohan, really like the perspective and light you shed on these topics, very insightful. 👍

  • @ryancfairchild
    @ryancfairchild ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I haven't watched one of your videos in a while and these are SO good. The editing, the vibes, the cadence, the analysis, just A+.

  • @comeatmebro3229
    @comeatmebro3229 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    i think one of the things that annoys people of recent (i personally don't care) is that these guys left CS which is fine and all, but then some of them (shroud being one of them) bashed on CS pretty hard then they are the first to get access to the CS2 beta, some feel like they don't really deserve it especially when at the time some of the current pro's hadn't even gotten access yet and actually had to ask for access.
    i know why they got access (publicity) but some people dont like that type of thing.
    on the CS side of things what he good at CS yeah he was, anyone who plays at pro level CS had to have been good at some point but was he a good pro? no he was average at best and those who say he could have been the greatest of all time if he tried harder just no, even when he was in his "prime" he was mid tier, in his prime was he better then players like Olof, Guardian, Flusha, Cold, F0rest etc no he wasn't.
    this is a guy who never made top 20 ever if you want to ever be in the conversation of being a great of CS you atleast need to be in the top 20 atleast once

    • @Remu-
      @Remu- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually thing he very well could've been the greatest of all time but I guess he didn't really, like REALLY focus on improving the aspects that he was lacking in, like the part where lau talked about the Cobble B site presence and comparing him to Stewie and how Shroud lacked assertiveness and utility use etc.
      I think "the switch" never clicked for him and those things might've never even crossed his mind, he just focused on improving his mechanical skill.

    • @isoreii5062
      @isoreii5062 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree completely i'd say overall tho Shroud is a better "gamer" which sounds incredibly cringe but Shroud has been able to perform at "professional" level in literally all the games he touches which is why I think people consider him to be one of the greatest of all times. I do agree that pro level wise he was overrated in csgo but overall I wouldn't say he's an overrated streamer.

    • @comeatmebro3229
      @comeatmebro3229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@isoreii5062hes a very successful streamer, hes not one i watch personally but i dont think hes over rated and yeah hes very good at games, he picks the mechanics of games up well, hes kinda a jack of all trades master of none in that sense, i dont think he has the capacity to be the best (at a pro level) in any 1 game but he can be ok in all of them

    • @comeatmebro3229
      @comeatmebro3229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Remu- even if he did focus on really improving i dont think he would have been as good as the players i mentioned.
      personally i think Brax had a way higher skill ceiling then shroud did

    • @Remu-
      @Remu- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comeatmebro3229 Yeah Brax was a hell of a player but he seemed like the kinda guy with not much of a work ethic and now he seems to have fallen off the face of the earth completely.

  • @Gontrz
    @Gontrz ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video. As a French fan who begun to watch CS in 2015, it brought back so many memories. Even if it was the beginning of the end for Shroud competively speaking.

  • @gortbot
    @gortbot ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i for one am hopeful and excited to see some of these guys come back even just for the bros for the mm demons, gives us some motivation to play more when your favourite streamers are not just grinding faceit

  • @DevoutOG
    @DevoutOG ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This take is based. Csgo up until recently has not had much in terms in content other then gun buffs and nerfs and it does get boring after a while. I myself am sitting on 15k + hours and see myself playing old school runescape more often than not these days because it gives me dopamine rushes still seeing that number go up after hours of grinding. you dont get that same feeling when your account ranks up and you get a new service medal or ranking up to global. it gets old after a while, and some people cant afford to buy skins to keep the game interesting.

    • @thalberg-
      @thalberg- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It gets boring in the same way a traditional sport might get boring… CS is intentionally designed to have basic and simple rules so that the highest skill ceilings can be reached. Think basketball, always the same court dimensions, rules etc. in that sense, the ‘game’ and the ‘content’ is the skills we hone as CS players. CS is designed to be every man’s sport that gives them an area to continuously improve, to learn communication and team play, and to achieve sport ‘greatness’. This is why the game has been here for ages and still hits peaks! Content is fun but perhaps Valve has done rigorous analysis and found a trade off/cons to introducing more content (like danger zone, gameplay like Negev changes etc)

    • @DevoutOG
      @DevoutOG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thalberg- I agree with your take. That makes total sense, I just wish they would add something that doesn't change gameplay that adds some sense of progression to the game like a gun leveling system (different from other games like cod and val)

  • @geeeeza
    @geeeeza ปีที่แล้ว +9

    you're killing it lau! absolutely loving the vibes from all of your recent videos :))

  • @BahpuAgain
    @BahpuAgain ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i do freelance editing and i have to say this editor you have hired is absolutely amazing, i love how smooth and creative everything is

  • @Anysmoke
    @Anysmoke ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Launders knees must be hurting, get up man

  • @wutsdapoint
    @wutsdapoint ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video dude, nice to hear this kind of insight. Keep up the content.

    • @launders
      @launders  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thanks 🙏🏽

  • @aidand918
    @aidand918 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    can we get a "how good was stewie2k?" you mentioning him made me wanna see an actual brain break it down and not the score esports lol

    • @yessir6427
      @yessir6427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the cringe esports🤮

    • @launders
      @launders  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ok

  • @Meirgus
    @Meirgus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are some of the most interesting cs vids I see nowadays and I expect the viewer numbers to rise massively. Maybe you just need that one vid that youtube algorythm decides to recommend to everyone and this channel will start getting 100k+ views per vid easily.

  • @NY-Vice
    @NY-Vice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shroud, Moe, Steel, DaZeD, Swag, Tarik, Shaz and more I'm forgetting now all played such a huge part in me getting into the competitive side of CS. Before discovering the CSGO section of Twitch in 2013 I would only play community game modes like Jailbreak. Watching those guys stream Rank S while also getting to see them compete against each other in real matches was something special.

    • @efun77
      @efun77 ปีที่แล้ว

      Such a golden era of CS, many of these newer players especially in cs2 have no idea what really started this whole era of counter strike

  • @DrippyG9
    @DrippyG9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing that made me interested to shroud is not just from him playing csgo and his aim but how he adapts quickly to other games and sweep a lot of players, maybe not in the professional level but enough to at least win a lot of games

    • @sjs9698
      @sjs9698 ปีที่แล้ว

      i'd say his positioning & gamesense are really good (though obviously not as good as his mechanics) & that gives him a lot of good fights - in whatever game. it's definitely something people can learn from seeing how people like him play games, imo

    • @datderpderping501
      @datderpderping501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk why people say he adapts well to other games quick. Fps games yeah? Other games? No. I’ve seen this dude be ass in fighting games and Moba lmao

  • @OhhhPez
    @OhhhPez ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m not old but rewatching that 1v5 vs NetCodeGuides almost a decade later is wild to think how early in his career it really was

  • @halcyondreams1132
    @halcyondreams1132 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    this is probably the best CS content i've seen, love it!

  • @sean8363
    @sean8363 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came into this expecting to not like what I would hear, only to be blown away by your insight. I’m 25 now, and your commentating and expert analysis of the game has amazed me since I was 16/17.

  • @AdiStarcPvP
    @AdiStarcPvP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess we can all agree we love shroud for his mechanics and his aim not like soloing, playing tryhard, winning and other stuffa.

  • @EthanGlenn-cj7si
    @EthanGlenn-cj7si ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, was just thinking about your videos randomly a few days ago. Used to watch you when you made movement videos for csgo, great to see you still in this sphere!

  • @Robstrap
    @Robstrap ปีที่แล้ว +46

    He was average, just had good aim but other than that he wasn't good at anything else, was just mid. Shroud fans act like he was a top 5 cs player. Thats why he was good on Faceit, but when it came to LAN he was average. S1mple plays like Shroud did on Faceit at LAN. Sure he might have gotten better, but he was average when it came to being a PRO player. Its the same reason why rank 1-5 faceit players can go to pro lan and do absolutely nothing worthwhile, being a good pro is more than mechanical ability. Stewie managed to translate his Faceit stomps into pro games, Shroud didn't. He also left the game that made him who he was, then started shitting on it, which also adds to why cs players don't like him. Shroud did have a pretty good year where he hovered around 1.14-1.16, but having a good year don't make you a great player, most pros have their moments

    • @alessaziergener7861
      @alessaziergener7861 ปีที่แล้ว

      This

    • @acrostiic5623
      @acrostiic5623 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To call his aim "good" is understating it

    • @acrostiic5623
      @acrostiic5623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, to say that the game made him is an exaggeration. He brought a lot of attention to the game as well, it was a mutual relationship. And like Launders said, the community has done nothing but call him overrated and a snake for leaving CS. I'm not a huge fan of shroud but shitting on the guy the second he streams a game he wants to play is the reason why content creators and streamers haven't touched CS in years.

    • @risheeeesh512
      @risheeeesh512 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@acrostiic5623 he gained his audience through cs though lmao if he was shit at cs he wouldnt have got as much of an audience

    • @ashstaredviper
      @ashstaredviper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not to forget Stewie helped improve the meta. Smokes went from becoming walls to something to push and prod and even take advantage of. I love how now atleast people in MM try to pop flash through a smoke than rushing blindly because they saw how good Stew was doing it.

  • @l2t865
    @l2t865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shroud's best top performances in big matches imo:
    1) pro league s1 final vs fnatic, 100-80 (across 4 maps) including 32-17 on map 1 and 32-24 on map 4
    2)e-league season 1 vs navi 78-57 (across 3 maps) dude literally went insane in this match literally was pugging
    3)vs nip in cologne 2014 with 69-50 across 3 maps
    4) facit league 2015 finals vs fnatic 56-38 (across 2 maps) including 37-26 on map 2 with double overtime but had good 3ks for highlights
    Some people would argue his best performance vs navi in cologne 2017 but he wasnt so consistent throughout the match in the first 5 rounds he already had 12 kills but still ended with 26-15 in total of 30 rounds

  • @lono1596
    @lono1596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shroud was actually on the c9 team that won esl finals in brazil, first tier 1 tourney lan win for NA

  • @travenator16
    @travenator16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome as always, loving this concept
    really concise way of putting out your thoughts, you're a great speaker dude!

  • @elvincolon8340
    @elvincolon8340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:50 this is such a good statement like I’m big into rainbow six siege and shroud came back to play ranked with his friends and uploaded a video. I had no problem with this until I went to the comments of the video and saw a lot of uneducated people in his comments saying he’d destroy pros even though he was struggling vs copper players and I’m not making that up in the video the enemy team were all coppers but I get it he is amazing at every game he touches but claims like that are insane

  • @brennanchaudhry8925
    @brennanchaudhry8925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great video, really enjoy the retrospective and deeper insight into the game

  • @TheGreatAndHolyAce
    @TheGreatAndHolyAce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Netcode vs Manajuma match was insane. Watching that 1v5 round live just ignited a fire in me and got me juiced to play CS

  • @SwedeenXBL
    @SwedeenXBL ปีที่แล้ว

    Been taking a long break from CS and decided to return and went to see if lau had some new videos and i love this greenscreen handheld microphone thing feels very General Sam'ish and adds such a cozy vibe to your analysis.

  • @Ryankurwa
    @Ryankurwa ปีที่แล้ว

    i am so glad you said that about how shroud is the only player that makes pubg look like its not lagging. ive always, always, wondered this as well.

  • @themattenthehat
    @themattenthehat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vindication! This is basically what I've been saying for years. Shroud is not just good but great at every FPS I've seen him play. I have no doubt he could still grind up to global elite in CS. But that is a different set of skills from being a pro. It's a bit like, the globetrotters are "good at basketball," but they wouldn't do well in the NBA (an exaggeration, but you get the point).

  • @sketchyforlife
    @sketchyforlife ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think as fans, some of stewie, shroud and Tarik’s comments can get under the skin because we all love this game (and love them as NA fans) and you don’t want to hear them talking down on it as a game. This is the NA old guard, the OGs of an NA scene that is severely lacking in star power. Maybe if we had someone like m0nesey, to faun over and put our hopes into, then we could let them leave gracefully, but for now we have our opinions, their fans have theirs, and the players themselves don’t seem to give much of a shit either way. Idk, when I saw Stewie and Hiko reacting to the CS2 trailer it made me realize how much they’ve all moved on.

  • @HandsomeMadMax
    @HandsomeMadMax หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He was an exceptional smurf you could say hahah. Its something about the movement of good players I think. When I play against people who move unpredictably (in my case its actually the bad players) all my aim leaves me. I cant hit sht. For him its the opposite I think. People just walk perfectly into where he wants to hit.

  • @muddermaster3509
    @muddermaster3509 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:50 I wouldn't say that is the best 1v5 of all time due to how many whiffs there were in that clip. Maybe you could say it was the best 1v5 during that era of csgo but that would definitely not happen these days lol

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 ปีที่แล้ว

      NiKo 1v5 >>>>

  • @stevep6317
    @stevep6317 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've played CS for 20 years and I didn't even know Shroud's name until PUBG. He wasn't a very noteworthy pro, and his pug streams meant nothing to me since "streaming" was barely noticed at the time. Times sure have changed. But sure, him talking about CS in his streams essentially give the game free advertising , so I'll give him credit where it's due.

    • @1q3er5
      @1q3er5 ปีที่แล้ว

      where potti at :|

    • @velfare
      @velfare ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like lau said he’s average.. those stats can’t survive in tier 1

  • @EditorJoe
    @EditorJoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:34 sleepy lau

  • @hoboliciousA
    @hoboliciousA ปีที่แล้ว

    launders i used to find u so boring when u where casting matches due to ur voice but in a youtube video format its actually so soothing and ur knowledge on the game is great

  • @omegalul1500
    @omegalul1500 ปีที่แล้ว

    shroud also said that recently one thing he lacked of back when he was competing was the game sense. He said he used to only play the way n0thing told him to. I think if he had kept competing, he would definitely be one of the top players.

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:45 Blud is definitely cooking but I'm having takeout. 💀

  • @lurka1337
    @lurka1337 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Insane mechanical skill and got lucky with some of his decision making, unfortunately pros will exploit weakness and he had alot to exploit strats wise, fun to watch though, he would get in the worst position and fight his way out, fun to ask how the F is he going to get out of this...

  • @zooboyjoe
    @zooboyjoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This kind of video would be interesting with a lot of different players. Would be nice to see some real delving history of snax, NBK, kennyS, Guardian, flusha, n0thing and so on. Lots of great players who aren't at the top level anymore but have a lot of history (even pre-dating CSGO obviously).

  • @bondi6252
    @bondi6252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro WHO edited this video? I was cracking up the whole time especially when shroud summit and tarik where on the screen. Omfg

  • @1m2ogaming
    @1m2ogaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shroud 1v5 might have looked impressive in the early days looking it now is lke wtf they can't hit him :D

  • @pandey2170
    @pandey2170 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Indian I've been watching CSGO when I was like 13-14 years old. Basically I can say that I'm a boomer who even watched the first CSGO major. I remember watching shroud coming to Cloud9. He wasn't that great and I wasn't a super fan of him but he had insane mechanics from the very beginning. Also the fact that coming from a country where PC gaming isn't so huge even till this date and people generally plays games like PUBG-Mobile and other mobile games everyone knows who shroud is. No matter what game you play most of them know who shroud is. So I'd say that not only what he has done for CSGO but for esports in general is quite an achievement. I'd rate him as someone who is so fucking adaptive and you can literally give him any fps games, give him few weeks and he'd play better than majority of people.

  • @blazeh
    @blazeh ปีที่แล้ว

    love this form of video and editing, love you launders

    • @launders
      @launders  ปีที่แล้ว

      big blazeh

  • @merzofficial1443
    @merzofficial1443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old man summit pic had me laughing so hard I had to pause for a sec

  • @LIMI7EDMODZ
    @LIMI7EDMODZ ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I would love it if he comes back to cs2 successfully. Yes his skills are very mechanics oriented, but I also think it's a bit unfair to compare him to current pros, as the playstyle has evolved a lot from then to now.

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs ปีที่แล้ว +21

      he’d be tier 12

    • @TwilightzoneTemplar
      @TwilightzoneTemplar ปีที่แล้ว

      He won't

    • @Sam-es2gf
      @Sam-es2gf ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Well he wasn't good enough then. It's not about playstyle, he just isn't smart enough and didn't have the mental for the highest level. Nobody questioned his mechanics.

    • @yessir6427
      @yessir6427 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he is bot i rekt him

    • @danboing3864
      @danboing3864 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yessir6427 yuh put you against prime fnatic at pro league season 1 finals and see if you can have the series shroud did

  • @itskOOps
    @itskOOps ปีที่แล้ว +2

    always appreciate your empathetic views on stuff man ❤

  • @Solucerus
    @Solucerus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude can frag, but fragging isn't the only thing that wins. It looks good in casual games, but when the games get real he fades out. Raw aim can't beat a full team working together during the length of a match.

  • @hah5230
    @hah5230 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    cs fans can be so dumb, while shroud I get there’s natural push back because so many people hoist him up like he was a goat, and he can be quick to criticize while he may not always be right, but my favorite thing was when he played cs like one day a year a few years ago just to shed light to all the cheaters in the game, he obviously makes these comments because he cares about cs. Tarik is just like only positive stuff man idk how people could ever hate on the man lmfaoo

  • @efun77
    @efun77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn lau this was a great video, thanks for the insight the bit about stewie and shroud was really cool to hear

    • @launders
      @launders  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Np glad you liked it!

  • @OhhGilligan
    @OhhGilligan ปีที่แล้ว

    new lau enjoyer here. usto be a hater on the casting... at times, but over time ive come to really appreciate your breakdowns and explanations of the game. also the chemistry you and skrawny have is really entertaining. i really enjoyed the shroud vid. thanks for the good content.

  • @QuentinH-o9x
    @QuentinH-o9x ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, enjoying the show on blast too

  • @BigYumps
    @BigYumps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't really care what game shroud plays, he's cool, not toxic, and his aim is so damn satisfying, back when I watched him in old Cs times him and roca where my faves because of the consistant aim, so sick

  • @tomj3089
    @tomj3089 ปีที่แล้ว

    so fkn real Launders, great video, love the objectivity

  • @jessco8950
    @jessco8950 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think most teams just didn’t know how to utilize shroud. They need to treat him like a stew2k or rops where they just go out and do their own thing imo.

  • @waltert9
    @waltert9 ปีที่แล้ว

    the production value is SO GOOD

  • @jimboc669
    @jimboc669 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Good at getting clips in FPL and Rank S, average at best on LAN. He had his moments but people see his Twitch clips and think he's doing that shit in officials lmao.

    • @rollingthunderinho
      @rollingthunderinho ปีที่แล้ว

      he had some insane plays on LAN too. obviously not as many as he would get in pugs

  • @zackkhan1199
    @zackkhan1199 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t get why when shroud said the exact same criticisms of CS (poor mm, infrequently updated, etc), people called it “hating” on the game (even though he also said lots of positive things about the game at the same time), but when people who only play CS make the same criticisms, it’s fine. Just because he went to play another game doesn’t mean he’s wrong or “hating” on CS. At the same time people who pretend shroud was some kind of under appreciated CS prodigy are giga cringe. He had some nice highlights but overall had relatively unimpressive stats.

  • @kachelstacktus
    @kachelstacktus ปีที่แล้ว

    Obviously I am no big pro, but I can absolutely credit my 3k hours in CS to shroud.
    I watched him destroy in PUBG, then got recommended some VODs of Shroud-C9 matches. I was watching those pro games for a few months before ever touching the game myself. While I didn't know anything about the game, hell I remember googling whether the players can see the outlines through the walls, they were just so fun to watch xD

  • @minibeech03
    @minibeech03 ปีที่แล้ว

    shrouds been tearing it up in some of his recent cs2 videos.

  • @namezaF
    @namezaF ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think people don’t notice that shroud is not really a competitive person like that imo. He’s actually not the right type of human being that fits the scenario of being a CS pro for 10 plus years. Just because he has insane mechanics people presume it goes hand in hand with being a competitor but I don’t think his heart was ever really in being just a CS pro hence why he quit to do other things. I guarantee even if he didn’t start getting big in streaming he would of still quit around the same time to play other games And there would never be just one game he sticks to indefinitely.

  • @HavokR505
    @HavokR505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    keep the content coming launders. 9/10

  • @mrxenon1811
    @mrxenon1811 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He was at least a top 50 player at one time, that is NOT EASY. He deserves some credit

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top 30 easily. In 2015 he had period where he was just going ham.

  • @crimnvL
    @crimnvL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ill never turn on the Shroud and Tarik they made NA CS great i hope we can get another major one day

    • @cFeor
      @cFeor ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts exactly! My favorite cs players back in 2015 😍

    • @1No1R
      @1No1R ปีที่แล้ว

      Shroud fanboys are hilarious 😂 get a life

  • @AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq
    @AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shroud is truly gifted, his skill isnt the type you get from practice and experience. This guy can genuinely go fucking pro in any game he touches if he puts his mind to it. if there's a crosshair and a gun in the game, you can guarantee this guys gonna be on top of the scoreboard.

    • @ElementalDj
      @ElementalDj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holy cope

    • @AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq
      @AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holy he has good aim?@@ElementalDj

    • @ElementalDj
      @ElementalDj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq TRUE! He has inzane aim! He could go pro in EVERY game!!!11

    • @AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq
      @AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro has a raging hate boner the size of the twin towers@@ElementalDj

  • @Lacycsgo
    @Lacycsgo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great analysis, very well spoken

  • @harryholt3565
    @harryholt3565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Sad at first as I thought it would be a pov analysis of an old game but was an interesting video nonetheless.

  • @weaksauce13
    @weaksauce13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you touched on it a bit but top level players like shroud and even s1mple would get destroyed in high level Quake, sure it's a dead game but the skill ceiling is so insanely higher than csgo. Quake duels are like a game of FPS chess

  • @LuvU2x
    @LuvU2x ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the guy from the launders show!

  • @xxSportsxxProxx
    @xxSportsxxProxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video the stewie example explained a lot!

  • @ImEcchi
    @ImEcchi ปีที่แล้ว

    At the 2:41 ish mark you were definitely cooking, us big brain gamers think faster than we speak B)

  • @thegamingmonk2529
    @thegamingmonk2529 ปีที่แล้ว

    This title should never have been a question dude!

  • @totaltm826
    @totaltm826 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited to watch the IEM Rio Finals in toronto with you

  • @Demoo3
    @Demoo3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im convinced if he wanted he could be a top pro . However if financially just better for him to play casually

  • @iffailedinglesh8741
    @iffailedinglesh8741 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:24 Shroud did win EPL Season 4 in 2017, which I would consider a big tournament win. In the grand scheme of things though, it’s a pretty minor detail that doesn’t affect the point of the video.

  • @alexmok2
    @alexmok2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see you do one of these types of analysis vids on Skadoodle

  • @christiaanjellesma1851
    @christiaanjellesma1851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was shroud good at cs:go is like asking if Bruce lee was fast

  • @fandigilidubis5184
    @fandigilidubis5184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid bro! Can you share the link to the background music? It's so damn good!!!

  • @boolol1909
    @boolol1909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Realy nice video giving an insight of nacs's history that we europeans forget sometimes. :D

  • @jimboc669
    @jimboc669 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like he has the most aesthetically pleasing aim if that makes sense, the fact he played native as well just made everything he did look insane. Yeah was mid on Lan and didn't accomplish much as a pro but he was a god at getting clips on Rank S.

  • @iTydaa
    @iTydaa ปีที่แล้ว

    If you don't awp hits even harder to get good stats

  • @thetrashycan
    @thetrashycan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a diehard CSGO elitist I definitely don't hate shroud and to a certain extent I understand why he shits on CS as much as he does. But I do think it's hilarious when people who started playing video games with Fortnite and Call of Duty try to argue that he's the best FPS player of all time. Anyone who's a pro in CSGO would be better than any most FPS players, that's just a fact, and if s1mple focused more on his stream than being a pro he'd look even crazier than shroud. As for people like tarik, I respect them because 1. they don't constantly shit on counterstrike and 2. he won a MAJOR, FOR NA! At least he's actually qualified to speak on the game and still showcases the pro scene to his Valorant viewerbase and supports the scene

  • @Ayur_Baturov
    @Ayur_Baturov 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even though nitro and tarik move to valorant. I still respect them and i’d love to welcome them in cs

  • @ketsuwa
    @ketsuwa ปีที่แล้ว

    the real question is, will we ever get a video about scream

  • @liranp5901
    @liranp5901 ปีที่แล้ว

    shroud was good af and it was csgo best time when he was on c9 i miss thoes days so bad

  • @AstroSully
    @AstroSully ปีที่แล้ว

    Shroud’s greatest performance is him fragging out against the best team in history at that time 2015 Fnatic. ESL Pro League Season 1. That event put Shroud’s name on the map. Showed how much potential he had. Sad to see he never fulfilled it.

    • @l2t865
      @l2t865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also his performance against navi in e league season 1 quarter finals was insane dude literally went insane

    • @jora5483
      @jora5483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@l2t865 1v3 clutch in overpass ... just shut down navi ...

  • @JonasSchewelius
    @JonasSchewelius ปีที่แล้ว

    great video dude!

  • @PerforatedPaperboy
    @PerforatedPaperboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lets be honest if they didnt shit on their roots then we wouldn't shit on them for it.

  • @Aapee1
    @Aapee1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just ordered a set of acezones, lets hope theyre worth the hype!

  • @bIeaq
    @bIeaq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Twistzz is the professional we all wish Shroud could have been.
    Shroud had the talent, just not the drive and motivation of a pro.

  • @sotiris6656
    @sotiris6656 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:42 a wild man from denmark with a karambit on his hand would strongly disagree

  • @bf5175
    @bf5175 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing this video really makes clear is that gamers love drama.

  • @Thanos-Cassoulet
    @Thanos-Cassoulet ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy this new format but i kinda miss the old demo review