10 Incredible Cut Content Secrets in Elden Ring!
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Please open up the description and just spam middle-click on all the youtube links. Those creators have a ton of existing content, and there's still a lot of cut content that is yet to be discovered / restored
Ok
Mans upgraded his upload schedule
Shout out to Illusory Wall, his deep dives are really worth watching.
Vaati story playthrough please....
The weeping peninsula episode was so good....we need more 🥲
Hey Vaati! Hope you got my message about Humanity and Points of Grace! The smouldering people at the crosses and from Zullie discovered giant Heads are the result of the dragon fire from the first dragon in limgrave (spell description)! And the difference between ancient dragons and modern ones is also to find in the Dark Souls series... You watch Zullie's clips, so you know Godricks son is Gostoc! Thanks for your work! "Eldenring, Oh, Eldenring, you're like a dream...!"
Asimi being housed within you is also probably the reason the mimic tear costs hp to summon rather than FP. She pours out of you, so you're literally losing a big chunk of your vitality when summoning her.
There are more summons that cost hp rather than fp so is not entirely story purpose, more gameplay purposed
Asimi means silver in greek
@@locoludwin3228 which other summons take hp?
@@wingedfish1175 Miranda Sprouts
So she would act like a symbiote from the marvel universe almost?
Melina is so kind to the mimic tear inside, it's so wholesome wow
It's so fucking cute
Melina is the perfect waifu.
@@eddiegness weirdo
@@colem209 Ratio
She is also kind to Boc.
It's amazing how much lore is revealed in the cut dialogue. I even heard a rumour that someone found unused audio for Malenia where she informs the player that she is in fact the blade of Miquella.
Lmao. Good one. XD
I heard a different rumor that she was supposed to say it non-stop the entire fight but a coding bug made it only activate when you die
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I am dead 💀 please.
I like how polite and welcoming is Melina is to the silver tear (and to including Torrent and being thankful to him)
I came to make a similar comment; I kind of can't get over how she's a little perplexed, but cordial in her introduction nevertheless.
melina is just such a sweet character in general. i hope the dlc lets her come back for the ending if you cure the flame of frenzy.
Yeah why would they cut that ? It's really cute and we get to see more of Melina, we barely see her at all in the game
Melina is the goat
The Mimic Tear Ashes quest line could be hinting at an explanation for Marika and Radagon both being the “same" especially since people have been theorizing Numen are from the eternal cities
Wasn't there something about Numen being made from clay? And the stone looking dudes you find in siofra and Ainsel are called claymen, maybe there is a connection
The people from the eternal cities werent numen but nox people. Numen are believed to be from another world, see the description in character creation
Numen are from outside the Lands Between. Eternal Cities are underground (they weren't before) but still part of The Lands Between I think.
@@captaindonut5240 very likely they were the same in a very distant past.
When Marika and her noblewomen joined the Greater Will, they were named Numen, which literally means "associated with the divine or divinities".
In fact, Nox and Numen are almost identical in combat movements and similar in aspect :)
Numen are indeed from the Eternal City, at least the Black Knifes. That is not a Theory but a Fact. However the Numen originally came from outside Lands Between confirmed by the Numen Rune. The Black Knifes have not been born in the Eternal City then but one day Numen came to inhabit it. Maybe the Nox Sisters themselves are originally Numen who came from Outside?
In the words of dear Rogiere: "You recall our conversation about the Night of the Black Knives, yes? They say the assassins who carried out the deed were scions of the Eternal City. A group entirely of women, arrayed in armour of silver under cloaks which fooled the eye."
Furthermore:
"The assassins that carried out the deeds of the Night of the Black Knives were all women, and rumored to be Numen who had close ties with Marika herself."
“Not the Omen King, Nor the *Malformed* Twins”
-Godrick, man who grafted his head onto a fucking troll body
"Malformed" means that they were born twisted or abnormal, and Godrick was presumably born normally. I think "deformed" better fits Godrick's metamorphosis.
Fair enough, I’m just saying it’s like the pot calling the kettle golden
I also like that he doesn't know that the omen king IS one if the malformed twins
@@Midnitethorn The Omen King isn't one the twins. Morgott, The Omen King, is a child of Godfrey and Marika. The twins are children of Marika and Radagon.
@@Midnitethorn the twins that godrick states are(i presume) malenia and miquella
Of all the cut quest lines, Asimi's is the one I would have liked to see the most. I love the underground Eternal Cities and the Ainsel River, but outside of Ranni's questline there aren't many NPC questlines that add context or backstory to these mysterious locations.
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Fun fact : Asimi is the Greek word for silver. Elden Ring actually contains many Greek terms and names. Another good example would be the tower of Chelona, which literally means the tower of the Turtle.
IIRC, all the Black Knives have Greek names (Tiche and Alecto, for example)
What's a turtle
Chelonia!!!!!
@@wheelskeleton5648 Its a weird way of saying “dog”
@@heresyuwu Alecto is one of the three Furies the one of anger. And Tiche or Tyche is the Goddess of chance. It's pretty fun that the leader of the black knifes is related to anger and the black knife that killed Godwyn is related to basically luck lol
I enjoy how beloved Leonard is to the Elden Ring fanbase, as demonstrated by how quickly his name spread after I found it back in early March. You'd almost be surprised to learn it was datamined and not given in some item description. I'm curious how the reaction would have been if you were able to kill Leonard during the fight, and maybe gotten a Nameless King style cutscene of Radahn dealing with his death.
You're a champion and a dreamer
I imagine that if the Tarnished killed Leonard during the fight... Radahn would probably redirect the meteor, that opens up Nokron, he's holding back to said Tarnished's face...
I don't know why, but I swear I knew it was called Leonard before your video. Can't seem to remember where I know it from though... Love your channel Zullie.
Zullie the Witch, you and VaatiVidya are two of the Lords of Souls. May you become bosses in some mod of Elden Ring.
@@XxLuisokboomxX I tweeted about it when I first found it in early March, and that tweet made the rounds in a bunch of game news articles. Mentioning it in the video wasn't really meant to be "news", per se, but I obviously couldn't make a video about Leonard and not bring it up.
Love how Godrick stutters the phrase "Nor the rank malformed twins", his humilliation at the hand of Malenia (no pun intended) definitely left some psychological scars.
What did Malenia do to Godrick?
@@vasilijemx hear of it from the great Kenneth heights “then he insulted malenia lost to her in battle only to lick her boots rather then die like a man
@@naromaster9796 sounds like a Godrick thing to do
You’re wrong. The “rank twins” is not referring to Melania, he is referring to Morgott and Mohg. Two twin omens born as horned malformed beings. He hates them because despite Morgott being deformed and grotesque he was put in charge of leyndell capital and hid his appearance from everyone hence the title “Morgott, the veiled king” implying his true appearance was always hidden from the population of the capital, while godrick had to hide away in the old ruined stormveil castle
@@naromaster9796 it's also written upon the first lore sword field you find in limgrave
The Godfrey fight is already incredibly awesome. Imagine how much more awesome it would be if your player character actually personally spoke to, or even personally KNEW Godfrey/Hoarah Loux, prior to venturing to The Lands Between.
Your guide, your leader, and your mentor, offering to you the choice to seek the Elden Ring and leave your people. And then as he too regains his grace, he challenges you to a duel to become Elden Lord which devolves into a savage brawl as he renounces his companion Serosh, in order to unleash his lust for battle.
The hero starting class says you are descended from a badlands chief. Assuming this chief is referring to Hoarah Loux, there is a possible connection.
is serosh his companion. isn't he his shadow similar to maliketh or blaid?
@@m1rac1e yeah ig ur right, especially since Serosh’s entire purpose is limiting godfrey’s strength i doubt he’s completely happy with it.
@@TonyRedgrave All Tarnished are his descendants I believe.
@@m1rac1e Shadows are given to Empyrean's, and Godfrey was no Empyrean. Serosh was a sort of companion, but not a shadow. It was more like a limiter to keep his bloodlust in check.
miquella as is right now, the little egg, feels like cut content. It’s probably laying the ground for dlc but after you beat Mohg, it’s just like, “good job buddy! bye now”
Yeah, especially with the door opening behind him which leads to... Nothing.
@@tarille1043 theres a door in miquella's room?
@@aokyoutsuki7744 Sort of, there's fog walls leading to behind the altar he's on.
These walls come down when you beat Mogh.
@@aokyoutsuki7744 i think s/he meant the fog wall behind Mohg that reveals nothing after you beat him
A lot of people speculated that a dlc will be themed around miquella and malenia. There is also st trina quest and ending for miquella.
Thanks for talking about my Dream Mist stuff! It’s honestly crazy how not just big gameplay mechanics, but also major characters with sprawling storylines just got cut at the last moment. You can even still buy Jiko’s Armour in v1.02 from vendors before they realised they accidentally left it in and patched it out. This is FROMSOFT’s most erratic release so far by a huge margin. Don’t get me started on the unfinished quests they keep adding in patches still today.
The fact that they are patching in questlines is crazy. No wonder the game got delayed. Seems like they just ran out of time.
No mans land between
I'm not sure we can assume these things were all cut quite so last minute.. Like demos, network tests are often made from older builds that were prepared earlier and set aside for when they were needed.
Miyazaki got way to excited to create the lands between, he forgot he has fill the world with something.
What is Jikos Armor and which vendor sells it in 1.02?
Melina greeting the mimic tear in the quest at 2:00 is the most wholesome moment in a souls game
I always thought the eternal cities felt a bit…underwhelming. Having some npc quest lines would go along a way to make them feel more alive. Same for leyndell.
Yea, the mimic quest sounded really cool, at least a lot more interesting then "lol, keystone"
It's a shame because the underground world is so creepy and atmospheric. Best part of the game in terms of design
There was a supposed to be a questline in Leyndell that brings you to the discovery of Morgott being an Omen. There was supposed to be a surviving noble that asked you to kill Omens in the underground sewer, then was granted audience to Morgott which promptly kill him. Before he dies, he spoils you by informing you that Morgott is an Omen. But I think Fromsoft removed it because having too many people around Leyndell, which is supposed to be full of hostile enemies doesn't seem right to have a living noble talking to you while theres soldiers everywhere fighting you.
I felt like they were more like a ruined, once-great civilization, with naught but a few people belonging to it
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Oh, I love Melina's reaction to Asimi. I'm sad we didn't get any moments with her like this in the game. It's cute and adds depth, yeah she's cool as a mysterious edge lord but her being geuinely caught off guard and a little humorous is great. "Did you.. want that to happen?" and the way she's so gentle greeting Asimi.
If she really is the Gloam Eyed queen like some suspect, it would be cool to see some hints at her motherly aspects the queen is hinted to have with the swaddling cloth.
This being cut is such a tragedy for Melina's character, and Asimi to herself seems like a delight and having the Mimic Tear be tied to a character would add a lot to it
Fromsoft keeps too many secrets...
we could have had a literal mimic tear waifu?? damn fromsoft why was this cut
@@nanonano2595
"Let me introduce you to my waifu: myself"
_--words no mortal should ever speak, Tarnished or otherwise_
@@davidhong1934 selfcest is the best tag, actually
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx nah
The mimic tear was hilarious easy to get, a questline would have made aquiring it way better as it's objectivley the best summon in the game.
Totally agree. The second most popular summon in this game is Tiche, and she is such a bitch to get. Fighting Alecto has been a huge source of grief and rage for many players. But for Mimic Tear? Just pop a Swordstone Key and you're golden!
@@eddiegness Mimic Tear is only strong if your build is strong except you're a lvl 713 and just running for NG+2 lol. imo, Dung Eater is one of the best summons in the game better than Tiche slightly since Dung Eater is a lot tankier and hits like a truck.
@@eetfuk3571 Mimic is literally the only useful summon in ng+7, nothing else does any damage
@@tazka69 if you're summoning spirits for damge you're probably doing it wrong anyway.
Summons have always just been better used to divide boss aggro to allow you to heal, buff or use slower attacks.
@@backslash4141 Yeah no shit? That's obvious so I didnt even bother to say that all summons die in 30 seconds in ng+7..but at least mimic gets a few hits in before that
6:21 - how am I only now noticing that the little hovel where you meet Roderika is the exact same one from the Undead Settlement in DS3, right down to the boards on the window, lol
It's probably not very interesting for artists to model "little hovel with boards on window" twice ;)
Hi VaatiVidya, It just dawned on me.
Malenia and Mohg both gain wings in the second phase of their fight. Both are vessels/worshipping a different outer god than the greater will. Interesting to think of it's significance as it's surely not done by accident.
This game is filled with cut content! The colosseum one is just a tiny example of what’s left there. I honestly need to tell myself “focus”, so I don’t get lost in the many NPCs cut quest lines, or cut Mechanics! There’s so much more to come for the Elden Ring community from the dataminers side. Stay tuned!
Super excited, you do great work man. Keep it up : )
I'm probably in the minority when I say I want them to open up those coliseums & add those cut bosses back in. Couldn't care less about pvp. Awesome work btw!
thank you for your work good sir
It actually feels like they cut alot to do with horah loux. He is the only tarnished that you don't get to talk to before his fight. He just shows up out of nowhere.
Horah Loux isn't a Tarnished though. That's just Godfrey's other name.
Hoarah Loux wasnt even originally Godfrey, he was at somepoint Hoar Loux, The Goldmask.
Gib badlands time travel dlc where we fight peak Godfrey
@@vaultboy3706 What? Goldmask is an entirely different person.
@@CrunchyFluids He is a Tarnished. He's the first Tarnished. He got exiled specifically because he became Tarnished.
The cut mimic tear questline would have made a lot of sense. When you summon him, your health gets depleted which means that the mimic was a part of you and now is separated from you hence taking some of your health.
We're really hoping that the Dreambrew content is brought back somehow in future DLC. It basically proves our theory on St. Trina and we'd love to see more content based around Miquella.
Mimic tear quest is beautiful, i wonder why they didn't put it in official ver
Probably some part of it wasn't finished in time. By the sounds of it, they'd need to create an entire ending around both of you becoming Lords.
@@tarille1043 Yeah makes sense
@@tarille1043 Not really. Could just be a quest which ends with you killing your mimic self since she only talks about being lord in that fight.
@@tarille1043 Like a Marika/Radagon situation or am I understanding that relationship wrong?
@@boom-jr8vi holy shit, wait, what if that's what explains how Radagon and Marika inhabit the same body?
The biggest thing I wish they hadn't cut was Kale's questline, it would've made the Chaos ending even better!
I'll do a proper single video dive into that
@@VaatiVidya awesome, looking forward to it! Thank you for all the great content over the years.
The chaos ending is terrible. Visually amazing though
What quest line??
Same. He's the only truly friendly merchant, so it sucks he becomes totally irrelevant and forgotten so quickly. He should have some links to quests and NPC's all over the game. He even knows Blaidd, so he must be cool lol.
The cut Godfrey dialogue seems to clear up my confusion about if we were one of the tarnished who was banished with Godfrey or just on our own in between. This now means we were with him during his endless war and the fact that we received Grace upon returning was just as Marika promised him. Explains not only why we had this power (beyond just being the main character) but why the Tarnished feels like a much more powerful/consequential character than the Undead or Unkindled One imo
That dialogue was cut so no it doesnt mean that anymore
its cool watching this now seeing the Collosuem bit, 100% on point
Also it’s possible that the Sleep ailment would’ve been more impactful and useful if Dreambrew was still a thing. For example you might have been able to use Dreambrew in combat on bosses or enemies you put to sleep, much like the Dream Nail in Hollow Knight, to gain more lore, or access a special ‘dream’ phase. Maybe a method to fight certain bosses in their prime.
Heck with the fight against Fortissax in Fia’s dream, it shows that literally ‘fighting within a dream’ is an actual thing in ER.
YES THE DREAM NAIL I was thinking of that the whole time. I can definitely see a dream god boss similar to the one in HK
Some bosses do leave some parts of themselves after their fight, and going by cut content*, they probably alive in some way.
May guess is that we"ll dream nail those.
Godrick, Rykard and Malenia are examples.
*a Radahn soldier speaking about interrogating Godrick "corpse".
Use it on Miquella to activate his boss fight in the DLC
I’m really stuck on the idea that we’ll get to fight miquella
many speculate, that we will get miquellas dream world as an dlc. so maybe with that vial one can enter his dream of a completet halligtree and in the end of the dlc we have to fight miquella blade of malenia (given that the full grown halligtree really cured malenia and removed miquellas curse)
The bit with Melina and Asimi is genuinely hilarious - and a bit sweet, too.
I swear, Elden Ring has a lot more jokes in it than previous FromSoft games. They were never devoid of humor, but it seems more up-front this time. It's not a bad thing.
I cracked up at the “Did you…want that to happen?” As if I had just unintentionally let someone live inside me
@@SaundersYT I like that bit of dialogue too because whoever the player thinks Melina is, her relationship with Marika is very engrained and so her total unfamiliarity with anything about Asimi sort of reinforces the idea that the workings of the Night cities are totally distinct from whatever is going on in the above ground world (cosmologically speaking)
Do you remember Seluvis, the sorcerer that gives you a potion that it given to someone, turns that someone into a summoning ash? Receiving that potion is part of Ranni's quest and going to Nokron is as well. So after defeating Asimi in Nokron, maybe she would beg to drink from another chalice to heal, and if the player gave her Seluvis' potion she would turn into the Mimic Tear. That would be a great quest to get that summon!
It'd be cool if the mimic tear questline had its own ending where it would steal your ending or something
The silver tear quest sounds so good and interesting why did they cut it, they did all the work the voice acting the whole quest, it's so sad that never got this, especially Melina mentioning it.
Clearly they didn't do " all the work the voice acting the whole quest," otherwise it'd be in the game.
It is a mystery indeed, a talking slime that wants to live in your body and has a tragic ending sounds extraordinarily from software.
Perhaps dlc.
It’s quite simple: deadlines. The devs have to meet deadlines so it’s inevitable that less important content will be cut
Awesome that someone's modding it back in.
You know Elden Ring has taken over your life when you've seen all the original videos to these secrets already
Bwahahaha right? xD
Even though Godfrey was placed in Roundtable hold just for the dialogue, I found it so strange that he never made an appearance to the player because you meet all the legendary Tarnished from the intro cut scene but only meet Godfrey with his boss fight, I kinda wish they made him someone you could find and talk to because it feels like he would have a huge amount of information to give the player (being the first Elden Lord and being a legendary warrior) and then in the end he's an obstacle kinda like Gerhman in Bloodborne.
U meet him in the intro
The arenas are gonna be amazing
"amazing" is a bit too high for a "arena" what about that is amazing? It just looks like yeah notting really important.? What is gonna be amazing pvp there? Well in my opinions there a better pvp spots :D
@@MrMirco003 understand what you mean but i think they meant the potential boss rush mode. I know i'm hype asf to fight Radagn and Mohg without having to beat half the game everytime. Especially cause i have to pay for online :(
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Yeah I can't wait to see what they do with them, there is just so much they can do with this concept. Things like it's own economy, a potential horde mode where you try to last as long as possible, and custom scenarios like watching two bosses beat the crap out of each other
@@juice8426 You can fight Mohg right after beating Godrick, or do you mean “Mohg, The Omen”?
I would love to be able to re-fight bosses. With the existence of “Remembrance”, there’s even an easy way to explain their existence in-story. Maybe there’s a massive mimic tear, that could take on a remembrance and become that boss or whatever.
AND a mimic that can copy the demigods would tie into the whole "creating a lord" reason for their existence, good idea!
Yeah they added a boss gauntlet to sekiro, I dont see why they wouldn't do that for elden ring. Running through the whole game on horseback just to fight the handful of bosses I enjoy again is already getting old and im only on NG+3
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I can imagine it playing similiarly to Hollow Knights Godhome DLC.
That Melina dialogue about Assimi is adorable.
I love how everything about the Colosseums in this video ended up coming true. It was only a matter of time XD
I'm sad that they cut Godricks lines, I like that he mentions the other demigods. He seems like such a bit player in the grand scheme of the story, but this reinforces that he knows hes a bit player, and that he feels he deserves more. Honestly the Godfrey line is so integral the setting the story, but they take a back seat to Radagon's lineage as you get deeper, even as you go to the reamins of the storm king it never really comes full circle (aside from Hoarah Loux taking us to the freaking octagon)
Radahn’s horse being named “Leonard” makes sense from his item descriptions as it means “Lion strength.”
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more like "lion heart"
leonard
leon ard
lion heart
hear it?
@@robinthomasson6630 No, the name comes from combining lewo, meaning lion, and hard, meaning brave or hardy. It's an old Frankish name brought over to England by the Normans.
It would have been so cool if Godfrey gave that speech after you die to the scion, before you see melina, you see him in the very beginning, and then finally he shows back up at the end and you have to fight him.
Would have made his appearance more surreal, more cinematic, at least I think
In that case, it might have been intended for Godfrey to be the introductory curb-stomp encounter instead of the scion. He might have even been responsible for the death of your finger maiden, instead of Varre, or cruel gravity traps, or whatever killed her.
@@kgniku503 varre killed out fingermaiden?
@@kgniku503 how do we know she was supposed to be ours? How did we even end up in that church? Where tf where we before
@@thedoomslayer5863 Well it seems like you kind of slept on the lore.
In the third chapel of Marika you can hear Melina recite a speech by Marik that's precisely about that:
She deprived Godfrey the First Elden Lord and his warriors of grace before banishing them from the Lands Between. This means that the Tarnished are mainly descendants of Godfrey's warriors who came back to the Lands Between after the Shattering, although some simply happen to be from other places that aren't touched by grace (like the Japanese-style land the Japanese-style items come from). Also, we know the Finger Maiden was supposed to be ours because all Tarnished gets one, and they are sent by the Two Fingers. If we are maidenless, then it must mean that something happened to our maiden, it makes sense that the dead maiden was supposed to be ours.
@@Knoloaify You should check out where that church is the next time you're in liurnia, it's not sleeping on the lore to be confused why we were there, instead of a beach or literally anywhere more logical than what seems to have been Stormveil's private isolated church before the bridge collapsed? Like the only place we could have conceivably reached that church from without shenanigans is climbing the rocky pillar, or taking the bridge that would have connected it to stormveil
I would love it if they added Asimi back into the game!! That sounds like such a cool way to get Mimic Ashes!
Same with Kale. Have you seen his quest?
I’m always amazed at the amount of work people put into unlocking all the mysteries of a game. Whether it’s combing through all the lore like Vaati, or documenting every map change, or putting actual cut quests back into a game. It’s just awesome, it’s such dedication.
It's real nice how Vaati uses his quite large platform to basically sometimes just gather the info into one place as well as shout out other creators
Man, that mimic tear questline is so much more endearing than finding that in a blocked loot. And more excuses to hear Melina talk is also pretty neat.
I love the traders, and finding out any new info on them is always interesting. Their connection to the frenzied flame is the most curious, as well as the location of some of them. No where seems to be off limits to them, and they seem very capable of getting to strange locations. They are definitely more than simple "traders".
Interesting how Godrick's poem feels partly evocative of William Blake's "Jerusalem" ("Bring me my bow of burning gold" etc.), as both seem to share the sentiment of rejecting the present and yearning for the restored glory of an earlier place and time.
That's kind of the golden lineage's whole thing I suppose. They are the descendants of a seemingly discarded lord (although perhaps not, Marika seemingly knew he would return). Godrick is the weakest of them all. I think he just wants to return home to leyndell, and to be respected by his half siblings through radagon. As the last "true" (discounting the omen twins) heir of Godfrey after Godwyn's death, yet simultaneously being pathetic , the man is a walking talking case of inferiority complex.
Yearning for the past has inspired many great or terrible things.
At first it reminded me of Sting's "Fields of Gold", but I think you're right, Blake is a bit more appropriate. Nice connection :)
@@will2brown50 Godrick isn't a child of Godfrey. He's a descendant, presumably a great-great grandson or something.
@@andreasballe7470 yes I know. But it seems that the other members of the golden lineage either died or fell into obscurity. It's vaguely hinted that a lot more demigods died on the night of the black knives than just Godwyn and Ranni
The cut dialogue of Godfrey/Hoarah Loux reminded me of King Vendrick in Dark Souls II. It would’ve been really awesome to have another cool grandpa to guide us on our journey.
Oh I forgot there was a time where the colosseums did nothing
Asimi's questline looked AMAZING, hope they bring her back in a DLC
Ofc they wont
@@nolandderlugner1351 Sadly.
One thing that catches my attention is that in Godrick's cut dialogue, he says "omen king" obviously referring to Morgott, but Morgott never identifies himself as the omen king (outside of his hp bar), he's known as morgott the grace-given and his true identity as an omen is kept a tightly knit secret. Maybe Godrick knows this due to his connection with the Golden Lineage but it'd be kinda weird for Godrick to be announcing this massive secret that not many people know about if it is some sort of speech he's doing.
The two I'd say could be called enemies though. Godrick disguised himself and fled the capitol with the women and children. I think he did this to both escape the war and Morgott specifically. If that's the case I doubt Godrick would really care if people knew especially since he tries to be so "Golden Lineage" and Morgott is an omen, despised by the Golden Order.
@@DocVanfox Wait so why was Morgott in Godricks castle if Godrick refers to him as the fool omen king? He was clearly trying to protect Godrick from the tarnished.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 i think the idea is Morgott doesnt want you to fight Godrick because youll likely win and get a great rune. hes not protecting Godrick so much as trying to impede your progress
@@Xarazel Or maybe Godrick is just one of those guys who pretends he's cool with people until they're not around and talk shit behind their back and thats why he got in trouble with Malenia lmao.
@@Xarazel i always took it as morgott vulturing around the weakest shardbearer in order to poach tarnished whilst theyre still finding their feet. hes using godrick as bait without godrick even knowing he's there, seeing as the margit we see guarding stormveil was an illusion
The ships near Radahn's fight always struck me as odd...they're on the map and are a notable point of interest but at the end of the day they're just there.
When I first looked at the map and noticed the ships, I got really excited and was hoping we could get to them in some way. Sadly, it seems they’re purely decorative and FromSoft doesn’t have a plan for them
I'd honestly love to see these questlines and more restored and added to the game. One thing that's great about Elden Ring is it's open world nature but i still feel like it's missing a lot of life and character to it in some places. Plus i'd love to see Volcano Manor actually expanded to become a true alternative to the Roundtable Hold with it's own proper storyline and ending. Perhaps with you actually going to the Roundtable Hold with a couple other Recusants and killing all the tarnished there.
Your findings and analyses are always unbelievably good. Seems like hard work, but it's beautiful to acknowledge these connections. Thank you!
The arenas are gonna be amazing. So much detail not to. The DLC can’t get here soon enough!! Great vid Vaat! As always
The arenas stick out particularly as cut content
They didn’t make mistake like making chalice dungeons available from beginning in bloodborne.
They will be a lame dlc hopefull they are added in addition to an actual dlc or a free update
Not if the PVP stays the way it is with BHS being literally unpunishable, and a billion different one shot mechanics due to the game's insane damage scaling/buff stacking. Statuses like bleed/frost/madness going through rolls as well and fully stacking in 2-3 hits.
@@GG-ou7it Not if it’s kinda like arena in artorias of the abyss dlc
Some of these cut content like the mimic tear story would have been awesome to have. I hope they add some of these back into the game
now that we know Asimi should have existed, i feel like obataining and using mimic tear summon kinda lame, even though at first i found it very interesting. it couldve been a much better experience with Asimi quest.
i need that light pen from Men In Black. i want to fckng forget my lvl 367 gameplay. and play it again if a new DLC with all cut content are included are out.
Godfrey's cut dialogue is much more heartening. I respect him as a character and I'm kinda bummed that they didn't use this dialogue.
It would've been very cool to have him send you on this journey in the beginning (so I interpret it as) and then his final fight with him, being a test to your strength as you gain runic shards and restore the Elden Ring.
Would be strange to be betrayed by two bosses back to back
@@noamias4897 I don't think of fighting Godfrey in this theoretical scenario as a betrayal. It's a testament to how far you've come.
Godfrey is already a damn badass, adding that dialogue would make him even cooler.
Still would love to see an in depth episode on the Albinaurics. From the Albinauric village hidden away in Liurnia to the Albinaurics of the snow town of Ordina to the Albinaurics being tortured in volcano manor related to the godskins. The red Albinaurics worshiping Mohg. Is Loretta an Albinauric? There's so much interesting stuff about this race of frog people
Same their story seems so tragic. Just look how depressed the 2nd gen albinaurics look in mohgs area. Poor souls
Loretta we know enough about, she is a Carian knight who decided to help the Albinaurics by finding a safe haven for them, and took them to the Haligtree. But she didn't denounce her affiliation to the Carian family so she left her illusion to guard Ranni.
@@Chaffee738
You also never see Loretta walking
@@davidhong1934 She's implemented based on the Tree Sentinels who also never get off their mounts unlike most other mounted NPCs. She even has the male grunt. She's most likely not an Albinauric.
Oh my god, the dreambrew is literally the dream nail from hollow knight. I would’ve LOVED to have that. That’s one of the best parts of hollow knight.
same, I spent my whole ER playthrough thinking “I wish I could dream nail this guy right now”
I didn't know I needed a mimic tear quest line yet here I am clamoring like a kid. Asimi is such a gentle character, and the way Melina treats her politely, almost with respect, is so wholesome in my book.
And I also like the idea of Godfrey being a friendly NPC early on. But the intro of him holding his son in his arms as he disappears is enough for me.
Asimi questline is so... Magical. I love the concept and the tone of the start of it. Breathing her and letting she be part of your and be something seem as good. Even Melina reacts positively to it and the whole dialogue, "the other you" and the greetings to Asimi is just so... Wholesome and kind.
Yes, yes, soulsborne quest most likely end in tragedy, but I wish this had a more happy ending
the cut asimi questline is so upsetting because that's the cutest fucking thing I have ever seen in my life and melina's regard for her is precious
Entering someone's dream is such a cool concept, i really hope they do something like this in the DLC.
That seems to be what everyone is expecting for a potential Miquella DLC, so knowing that this questline exists just makes me believe it even more. I'm guessing this quest will be added in DLC, ending with you entering Miquella's dream for an interesting new area, and of course claiming his rune.
We entered Godwyn's dream for Fia's quest.
They have already done it in the game lol...
@@kun Yes, that is true, but it's just done for a single boss fight, and the visuals inside the dream are so interesting that I want to see it expanded into a full playable area.
It is such a cool idea and would fit ER perfectly. There was a fantasy book I read, it has an elder God whose deal is that he weaves dreams out of souls of the restless dead. His temples are places where horrific crimes happened, and he uses those souls to make dreamworlds, souls get peace and he gets another pocket dimension to use.
Man I wish the kept Godfrey’s dialogue, that would have been an amazing start for the game. The message, the tone, his imposing figure, everything is amazing and works to make the following journey even more epic.
Melina is so cute, she's totally oblivious towards common sense, same when she sees Boc crying. She's like "Is that how normal people act? I can roll with it". Wish we had more interactions like this, when she died I was like "sad, but whatever". By that time I had talked like, three times to her.
14:05 lol spot on.
I wish I could explore all these secrets, but unfortunately I’m still stuck on solder of Godrick.
Yeah that guy made 60% of new players quit
goddammit, they should just give us player early mimic tear summon to fight that one hell of a boss.
Shouldve made him an achivement cuz hes too hard
don't give up, skeleton
soldier of God, Rick
Melina is so polite to the mimic tear. I love it.
As much as I enjoy videos like this from Vaati, I’d really love to see more that are like “A Story Playthrough: The Weeping Peninsula”
Hearing Godrick give that speech from the top of stormveil, while you make your way up, would be really cool
In the opening cinematic Hoarah Loux is mentioned as an important character akin to Gideon, Fia, and Dung Chad.
It seems likely in an early draft of the game he would be a guiding NPC to some extent, thus the cut dialogue, before reclaiming his place as 1st Elden lord.
In his phase transition the delivery and directing make it seem like saying "I fight as Hoarah Loux WARRIOR" is a big reveal, but it means little to nothing to the player. So maybe seeing that the connection would be obscured throughout the game until the end or maybe he would be the crestfallen warrior equivalent.
Well, Hoarah Loux was in the intro alongside Goldmask, Fia, Gideon and Dung Eater as other important Tarnished.
@@ES21007 Yeah, they mentioned him being in the intro cinematic.
yeah, the only part of that that would mean much to the player would maybe be the fact that his real last name is Loux, if you did Nepheli's quest
@@ES21007 but still, it’s still confusing, you literally know nothing about him aside from his name until that point
Maybe an early draft had the tutorial before you wake up in the chapel of anticipation and get bodied. It would make sense of that cut dialogue with him sending you across the fog. Brief tutorial > meet your warrior leader > waygate to the chapel of anticipation.
I feel kind of bad, honestly, so much of this stuff is so cool that there's no way From would have cut it unless they absolutely had to. What could Elden Ring have been if they'd had a few more months?
In a few months? Just less buggy. Given a full year then some cut content might’ve been realized
Yeah it just feels like no other reason for the Asami Quest to be cut other than that. Especially because you acquire it now is so underwhelming
2:16 -> This is adorable.
I honestly love how you constantly shout out the content creators who discover all this throughout all your vids. Great stuff
I really hope a boss rush DLC will be coming to The Arena soon XD
Eh, the bosses mostly suck in this game
I think in an interview pre release they said there wont be an interview and the arenas are too small for most bosses.
You mean like the Godhome dlc for Hollow Knight?
@@joesheridan9451 that, my friend, is a trailblazing hot take.
I really hope a pvp duelist DLC with, no crimson flasks, will be coming to an area near us soon so all these cry babies can stop moping about "fake rules" that's really just etiquette and good sportsmanship for balanced competitive gameplay.
I imagine Asimi was cut due to A: complex issues with timing and quest limitations and B: Peoples unwillingness to eventually kill her for what is a massively powerful summon, due to possibly coming to enjoy her company.
It might be also due to it possibly being a full other ending. You and her inside you become Elden lord's.
It would also explain the marika radagon relationship. He's like a Asimi living inside Marika that she can use to change her shape into radagon. Two separate beings one body. Mimic tear mentions their purpose was to create a lord from nothing
Radagon could be the perfected attempt
I do not think you kill her. You fight her second half while she is still inside you and she remains inside you allowing you to use the mimic tear in the first place. I could be wrong though as I could obviously not play the full quest
@@envoyofrot7046 no, you kill her in the cut quest line. Go check out the video that has it recreated.
Reason B would have perfectly fallen in line with Souls though. You get something very powerful, but you have to sacrifice something that might matter a lot to you. There's always a drawback, storywise.
She should have her own ending if she is restored
outstanding video! I cannot get enough of ER and seeing these cut scenes... I'd love it if they added them back in, so much content!
2:30 honestly, the fact that Melina is completely accepting of this silver tear is fascinating, and the fact that she doesn’t sense malice is also interesting. It could be that the silver tear (I don’t know how to spell her name, sorry) didn’t have evil in mind, but had pure intentions, just not the best methods.
I'm pretty sure Asimi and Radagon are the same basic being. I'm almost certain at this point that Radagon is an artificial being, like the Albinaurics. Created by Celestial Dew, housed initially within Marika, and used to fight Caria. Theres a ton of details that fit the idea of Radagon as an artificial lord, and Marika herself has a strong connection to the Eternal cities. Her title for one, but also the Black Knife assassins being both her kin and scions of the Eternal City. You'll also note a ton of Numen runes in the ant nests.
damn now that you say it. and this whole revelation of Asimi supposedly existence. maybe that is the missing part about Radagon/marika relation.
There's so many hints that this could be it. The law of regression incantation uses the phrasing that it can see through 'mimicry' rather than 'illusions'. The twinned armour set with a silver person shape emerging from the armour states there exists a state where someone has two bodies and two minds but one soul (sounds pretty much like Radagon and Marika). Radagon ends up as a hollow shell, like silver tear husks perhaps? The mimic veil is also nicknamed 'Marika's mischief', and like you say there's a lot of connections between her and the nox, who are connected to mimic goops. The mimic tear itself states it's related to attempts to 'create a Lord'. There's no way Marika had no idea about any of this.
If it turns out to be a red herring or a coincidence I'll eat a shoe.
I misread that as, 'Eternal cuties'. 😅
@@Graficcha Even more. The celestial dew Radagon used to cleanse himself and marry Rennala is the same exact celestial dew used to create albinaurics. Albinaurics greatest opponents were sorcerers, and all their equipment is built to counter sorcerers. Radagons symbol is a grid pattern which is unique among all the runes related to the Elden Ring, and looks notably artificial. Radagons first appearance is the war against the Carians, sorcerers. The Eternal City and Sellia have anti sorcerer sorceries.
The dialogue about "you are yet to become me" rings similar to cut Asimi dialogue about her becoming you. I don't know if we'll ever get enough lore to confirm it, but I will be extremely surprised if Radagon isn't that artificial lord the Eternal City was trying to create. Which also puts into perspective just how long Marika has been working against the Greater Will.
@@Graficcha wow you’ve got a lot of really great points
Dreambrew seems like it could've been used on Miquella, what a pity it didn't happen. I really hope his story is expanded on
Man your content is just so good. Watching these spoiler free videos to enrich my experience with the BEEG world of Elden Ring. Really, i appreciate you as a content creator for putting these out with so much thought behind it! Also say hi to your editor, so fun and great editing. Thanks and have a big ol' day!
I am convinced Riko is going to be a dlc character and the dlc is going to play inside a Dream (probably Miquellas). It would be typically Fromsoft.
I highly recommend checking out Illusory Wall's channel, for any who haven't. All of his deep dives are super interesting, going all the way back to DS1.
I heard from a good friend of mine who was digging through scripts in ER that there might have been features for arbiter/darkmoon spirits that was either cut or might be added later. Also some possible DLC content connected to a character called “Rosaria” iirc.
Anyways, the full godrick dialogue really makes his death lines in the final game make more sense. Great video as always
fantastic content, can't wait to see more! You're one of the few creators I actually have notifications turned on for.
I'm amazed there's so much love for Elden Ring that fans want to use mods to recreate cut content and quests to get a "complete" experience. I love it.
Desperately looking forward to the DLC at this point.
*puts on clown makeup*
We will definitely see a dlc trailer in the upcoming summer game fest.
Yall will never be Satisfied
@@mitsuri3096 What's it got to do with satisfaction lol. I think the game hasn't realized its full potential yet and will likely get really good DLC if FromSoft's track record is anything to go by. Would rather they make something completely new after that though, don't want sequels.
@@Er404ChannelNotFound it doesn't need a dlc games big enough more content then ds3
@@mitsuri3096 There's too many loose threads especially regarding Miquella. Both from the creative side and from the business side it makes sense for it to get DLC.
Asimi’s quest brings credence to the item description for the mimic tear itself:
“Mimic tears are the result of an attempt by the Eternal City to
forge a lord.”
I can’t remember what item it was, but i recall a piece of info that detailed another reason why the eternal cities were forced underground.
The Eternal cities were feared for their mimicry, the fear being that they would one day create a mimic powerful to usurp the Elden Throne.
Could be wrong, and i don’t have the means to back this up right this second.
Omg I love this detail about the mimic tear. Totally agree with everything you mentioned. I wouldn't even be mad if they ever added in a later update. Just add so much depth and disappointing they didn't add/finish it.
The Asimi Quest was really cool, why did they cut it? 😞
Melina recognizing her was a nice touch too
Nice video
I would love if the arenas where a sort of rogue like thing, you need to fight a gauntlet of enemies, and each round, get to pick from randomized loot with your runes. Dying resets you back to the beginning or you can leave. I have no idea what the reward would be, though
Get all the way to the end and maybe you get a unique weapon?
Random pick from a list of rare materials you can’t otherwise farm, like larval tears or ancient dragon smithing stones.
Asimi's quest would've been nice to have, considering how easy it was to get the mimic tear ashes. Even nerfed, the mimic tear is very strong, so it would've been nice to at least have some kind of quest tied to it.
I would love to rechallenge bosses in the arenas, I think that's a fantastic idea. Another thing I'd love is just the chance to fight different enemies in the arenas, in general. Dark Souls style gladiator fights would be awesome. I used to LOVE the arena from Oblivion for that. Just getting to battle monsters like a badass in a coliseum was fun.
The thing that really blows my mind is that if patterns hold true, we haven't even played the best part of Elden Ring yet. FROMSOFTs dlc is always the better part and that is saying something.
Why does it blow your mind? Is elden ring really that great? I think bloodborne, sekiro, ds3 are all better... Actually if the pattern holds true, elden ring will have a lot of huge DLC, but there will be a lot of reused enemies and bosses so it won't be as good as the old hunters or even the ringed city
@@joesheridan9451 why are you going through the comments shitting on a game that everyone is here to discuss? Your presence is unwelcome and annoying.
@@joesheridan9451 The pattern means that we will have new unique bosses and enemies
They might reuse a few enemies, but they probably won't reuse the bosses. Fromsoft has probably been listening and will apply the players critique
@@joesheridan9451 Elden Ring is better than Sekiro and DS3, with Bloodborne there is a debate.
@Some Guy except yes
Does anyone think that Asimi's existance might give a hint about how can Radagon be Marika?
I think they are very much related since Melina refer to her as "other you"
Heard a theory either in a comment or video the other day that I think makes more sense for Melina, in that empyreans are all two separate souls bound as one, Radagon and Marika being the prime example. So when Ranni killed her original body, it also split her soul in two, creating melina. It would explain why Melina's face looks identical to Ranni's soul/real face, or her closed right eye being the same color as Ranni's. Not to mention the whole fire maiden/snow witch thing could just be another hint to the whole 2 sides of a coin scenario.
As tempting as it is, the fact that it was cut means that it really shouldn’t be considered when making theories
@@nightdragon1528 That's actually a pretty good theory, since Ranni only appears after you get Torrent from Melina, then comments on how happy he seems to be as your mount.
Another great video. The video work is so key to making the videos flow nicely. Makes a big difference
The dialogue with Melina talking to the mimic tear is really sweet, and honestly probably would have helped to make Melina feel like her own character a bit more. In the final build I find Melina feels a bit too much like a Fire Keeper; she's supposed to be her own person, but feels more like she's beholden to you (unless you claim the Frenzied Flame). Having little interactions like this where she talks to a companion or something would have gone a long way to make her seem more...personable.
Regarding the path to Jarburg, it kinda works nicely though as it adds to the sense of history by feeling like the map was drawn before the path collapsed.
It also enhances the experience (with laughter) when you walk up to see all the "map...liar" messages left by disgruntled players.