Viganò and the 2013 Conclave
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St Francis of Assisi prophecy: “A Man, not Canonically Elected, will be raised to the Pontificate… In those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a Destroyer” I'd say this prophecy has come true.
Oct 4, 2019 on the Feast Day of St Francis - Pakkamama was elevated at the Vat.... Sacrilegious and offensive to God. God bless Alexander Schugguel, the man who removed the idols from the Basilica and tossed them into the Tiber 🙏🙏🙏. Praying for the reversion of the holy father. Our Lady of Fatima. Pray for us 🙏🙏🙏
Impressive superb interview with Matt Gaspers.
Thankful!
Thank you gentlemen. From Ireland ☘️
Excellent and informative episode. Thank you, Robert and Matt for the courage and your love for the Church to discuss this topic with clarity. Rumors have been brewing for years without any reference to evidences. Here we have something to begin the investigations and fervent prayers.
Also, thank you, gentlemen, for your hard work and perseverance in keeping your publications in print. I have subscribed to Inside the Vatican magazine, will subscribe to Catholic Family News paper also . God Bless.
Why would these guys even entertain ANYTHING Vigano has to say? Voting irregularity? Get real you guys. Why are you listening to this fool!!!
Thanks for the interview and information.
This is an excellent interview getting closer and closer to the nitty gritty of the conclave of 2013...well if the secrecy of the conclave was broken privately, the one in question reading this ought to feel the pressure most intensely now that Archbishop Vigano has made this PUBLIC! Perhaps this will help the one in question to "do the right thing" before its too late!
Fabulous thank you both
I heard from a person in 2019 who is close to Bishop Olmstead, that Cardinal Burke told him (Bishop Olmstead) "We know Francis is not valid, we just don't know what to do about it" My understanding is that Cardinal Burke went around to the more conservative bishops, but was unable to get a group together to do something about Francis.
I am so thankful for Archbishop Vigano. May God bless him and protect him. Please Archbishop, please uncover and expose all of this for us. 🙏🏼Thank you Robert and Matt for bringing this to us. God reward you.
Spend time praying for those involved. Not discussing it
God bless AB Vigano
Didn't cardinal Pell elude to Bergoglio as an antipope?
Inverting an oath to cover up a crime is not fidelity to the oath, but a sin of omission and becoming accessory to a crime. With respect to his Eminence, I am a bit surprised. This is a first order category error. His duty is not silence in furtherance of a crime, but to disclose the crime. How confused our Church leaders are.
Fruit of silence. I think your analogy applies somewhat to Father Malachi Martin and others like him,when keeping their oath not to reveal the third secret of Fatima. Grave harm was done, unspeakable in scale compared to Noah's flood, by not obeying heavens command to publicly release the full secret by 1960. There are circumstances when keeping an oath when grave harm to others is at stake is patently sinful and ctiminal.
Fascinating. Thank you!
Would it also not impact the priests who had been ordained by bishops or cardinals appointed by Bergoglio?
No, not at all. The apostolic succession is the apostolic succession. Whether those selected to be new bishops and priests meet the traditional criteria is one thing, but assuming they have even a modicum of wanting to do what the Church wants them to do, then the ordinations and consecrations will likely be valid under the Augustinian formula codified by Trent. In a State of Emergency (which we are in, just look at everything collapsing ....), then economy and necessity automatically kick in.
But the election of a pope is an 'administrative' election, not a sacramental ordination or consecration, and it is clear that Bergoglio's election was invalid given that it completely traversed the canonical mandates in force. However, other acts of Bergoglio such as beatifications and canonisations are almost certainly invalid as was his lame attempt at the Fatima Consecration. All magisterial teaching that has been advanced as papal in nature is likewise invalid.
Seems all so difficult to believe, doesn't it? But the Prince of this World, Satan himself, is wreaking havoc - and an imposter pope, which is what Bergoglio is, is all part of the plan as we progress towards the reign of the AntiChrist. It seems unlikely that Bergoglio understands that he is an agent of Satan, and a principal one given that he has his hands on the levers of power; but this, sorry, is the truth.
What is happening in the Church now cannot be understood outside of an eschatological context.
Their appointments might be suspect, but not their Orders.
No
St Augustine solved such a problem.
What happened to “Holy Ghost” instead of “Holy Spirit”? I’ve noticed recently a lot of Trads changing to Spirit and I’m wondering why. I have loved the using the traditional form of addressing the Third Person of the Trinity from my childhood. Sad when it gets changed for no reason
You don't want to offend Protestants LOL
It used to be “Our Lord”, now “The Lord” like the Protestants.
Why has this disclosure only been revealed now? If there were irregularities why weren't these matters dealt with at the time? When did Archbishop Vigano first know about these irregularities? Like many people I hold very serious reservations about the entire authenticity concerning 2013. But I am beginning to be equally frustrated by those positing theories about what did, or did not, happen. Piecemeal, partial, disclosures, only add to the uncertainty. And the commentariot around all of this - exacerbates the existing uncertainty. Let your yes be yes and your no be no.
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Jorge Mario Bergoglio has confirmed that he has to do the work of those who helped him become pope
If chaos was the goal....
I am in the process of reading the book by Fr. Malachi Martin entitled "The Final Conclave. Any Catholic who wishes to understand what goes on in an actual Conclave would be surprised to learn that "horse trading" is an excepted ritual that is performed by those prelates involved. My question is this: Who was the assigned Carmalengo for the selection of a pope in the 1913 Conclave? Perhaps Archbishop Vigano would be kind enough to give us the answer.
Thank you Matt, Robert, Abp Vigano, Abp Schneider, Abp Strickland, all faithful Catholics, priests, bishops and cardinals,
You speak up at considerable risk.
We could never have imagined being in the condition we are in in the church and in our countries!
Matt’s summary from Abp. Vigano’s final paragraph brings us some peace and some hope.
Moira Eastman, PhD, Australia
Archbishop Viganó is duty bound to disclose the Cardinals’ names.
I didnt.leave the catholic church it.looks like the catholic church left me
The arguments that there might have been a technical error in the conduct of the conclave as being invalidating are not very convincing... and I think you address that well in the affirmation of the pope by the common and universal acclaim of the church. There would be nothing worse than a doubtful election, and a diligent leader in the conclave would want to make sure that there are no questions, no quibbles, no fouls-- especially in something as important as this. I don't know church law, but in civil law there are a thousand ways to affirm, ratify, perfect, or sanate all sorts of acts... contracts, elections, appointments, judgements, and so on. My guess is that the lawmaker intends that papal elections be hard to break, but with safeties in place to prevent actual, real catastrophes. So, when each of the cardinal goes before the new pope, to do their obiescence-- first in the Sistine Chapel upon election and then in public in the ceremonies to follow-- then that is the time when they, the whole college of cardinals - singularly and collectively -- affirm what happened behind closed doors and signal to the church their proper recognition of a new pope. Subsequent actions to the contrary (withdrawing that recognition) should be difficult, if not impossible... and certainly not based on some mere technicality.
But the question remains, what are the actual acts or factors remaining that could render an election invalid from its very beginning? What would rise to the level of one of those defects? It seems that is the question, but there was not much of a mention or useful discussion of that here. I suppose that what is in play here is stubborn adherence to heresy, membership in organization like the Masons, manifest rejection of the faith, invalid orders, or some other moral crime or failure in the professing the Catholic faith?
My guess is that any cardinal making a charge at dinner parties and then seeking advice of collaborators to affirm the position, is not talking about throwing out an election based on a judgment call about ballots sticking together. That very consultation, while unwise in a public forum or with collaborators who would be tempted to leak such information into a public forum, could be enough in itself to help that cardinal come to the realization that there was nothing rising to the level of invalidity... which could be a reason why we have not heard anything further. Yeah, it could be a lack of courage which would imply a moral imperative to do something, but why not consider a simpler explanation... the cardinal in question thought about it and had doubts, then asked for opinions or guidance of other bishops or cardinals, and then thought better of it. I would suppose that it would take a lot more than 'just a doubt' to make such a significant charge against a sitting pope that his election were invalid. It could be possible, but extraordinary claims like this would require extraordinary proof.
pray for Jorge Bergolio. if he doesn't repent of his marxism, considering his age and health, he is heading to the pit of hell.
wow!!! the false prophet...the gates of hell shall NOT prevail. Just when they think they've usurped the Holy Catholic Church with this synod of synodality - Jesus is revealing them in his good time. It all is making sense now. No way has this pontificate reflected Tradition
Wikileaks.
Exit Bergoglio and Biden. Enter Arinze and Trump?
Why doesn't Father Vigano ever discuss that he needs trad-Rite conditional Episcopal Consecration from a valid Bishop?
Archbishop Viganò: "I should have been Pope! I should have been Pope! Me! Me! ME! WAAAHHH!"
This content smacks of malicious gossip! A sin against the 8th commandment. What good is it doing?? NONE!. So STOP IT!!!!
There is TOO MUCH of that abounding today.
You are BLIND!
What a foolish comment!!
Bergoglio is a Satanist, a heretic, not a pope.
What horrible comments, why don't you do better research before you slander a holy pope