I know the update is late af. But I just hope that this is not the last update they did, we need a perfect remaster if they gatekeeping us from buying the original version.
@@mat7540 based on but they can still later on use original ps2, pc versions code and files to retroactively fix the games and keep adding features and fixes. Especially user music, camera and coop in sanandreas and add some extra features
the originals will always be available(just sail the high seas matey), there really is no reason to relly on rockstar to fix the remasters if you wouldn't mind playing the originals
Thought I'd touch base with the GTA audience. This remaster has been quite the blot on the landscape for some time so it's good to see Rockstar do something with it. I'd argue there are still problem areas to address so hopefully this won't be the last update. However, is it too little too late or is it better late than never? I'd love to hear your thoughts.
The more they do this, the more the gaming industry is going to be okay with releasing half arsed games then updating them to full games 3 years later. This isn't something that we should praise for. Many companies are going to look at this and start doing the same thing.
As if GTA 6 sales would be affected by that lmao. It’s probably because some higher up decided to finally fix it for the pleasure and a few extra bucks. GTA 6’s sales will be so high that this game and everything about it will be insignificant.
Going by our boy Matt McMuscles...this is the year that the Definitive Trilogy SHOULD have been released. COVID-19, the lockdowns, and the limp launch of the 9th Console Generation (PS5, Xbox Seris) meant that Rockstar/Take2's cash grab re-re-relaunch of GTAV got pushed back, but the shareholders were expecting a quarterly profit, so Take2's CEO ordered the Definitive Trilogy remaster released to save face with his actual customers at the massive expense of the people that buy the product. Late-stage capitalism is a blight.
I definitely believe Grove Street Games' CEO when they say that despite fixing a lot of things in the Definitive Edition, they were ordered by Rockstar not to release it. And Rockstar just held onto that update til the right moment when they needed players to have faith in them again. Fuck corporate America - They let the little companies take the flak while they recieve the praise despite doing no work.
Maybe, but Grove Street Games' contract with Rockstar Games expired in March 2022, and the reason why the Definitive Edition was rushed was because Rockstar/T2 wanted to release something for the Holiday 2021 season. It's been rumored that many of the fixes done by Video Games Deluxe (who also did the Netflix/mobile version) couldn't be released on PC/console because Netflix had an exclusive agreement with Rockstar that just now expired. It's everyone's fault: GSG for biting off more than they could chew, Rockstar Games for not giving proper oversight/resources, T2 being really greedy, etc. I hope these remasters get more polish and extra added features/improvements that weren't in the originals because this is a DEFINITIVE edition.
Grove Street Games should've asked for atleast 2 years for each game. They aren't as experienced ( from what I've heard ) and having to remaster 3 huge games, that is loved universally is a HUGE task.
Yeah I played a bit of 3 yesterday to check the fog situation and there wasn't one. I'm hoping they'll fix it soon because it's half the vibe of Liberty City@@Bruno-db3kq
@@jmelia123 In the og SA, enemies were more accurate if you were in a vehicle but their accuracy would be reduced if you were on foot. In DE, they only had vehicle accuracy so you'd get chewed up in like 2 seconds.
Yes thank you for making the game playable at a bare minimum level after 3 years and just bearable enough to play, removing the OG games and charging a high price for the defective edition with loads of missing content like songs, dialogues, etc and while STILL HAVING TONS AND TONS OF BUGS GLITCHES AND ISSUES to fix like the transparent tunnel roof, some fences in sa having no collision, blank billboard, tires of cars not touching the ground in the parking lot of jizzys club, floating rocks floating poles floating trees etc etc and btw I just checked in sa light poles still fall thru the ground and the red County swamp bug that makes cjs legs sink into the ground are still there... This better not be their last update... Just shows R* doesn't respect their all time greatest classic games that made them who they are and got them where they are today the most innovative technologically advanced games that were ahead of their time that changed the gaming industry forever. Fyi it released this update to restore fans faith in them cuz they about to release the next gta or something big before gta 6... R* has gone FULL corporate i miss the days when r* used to engage with fans on forums and reddit even until after the gta 4 was released... All of the old crew left the new crew is a bunch of gen zs who don't respect the old games nor have appreciation for them who only like new games with good graphics but have crappy storylines and are released broken and need continuous updates fixes and patches for months and months
@@lobotomite4468 dude you gotta stop kissing rockstars🍑 like a blind fanboy... Give a corporate multi billion dollar company criticism when it deserves it... Your probably a gen z who doesn't even know how much impact these games had on the gaming culture, gaming scene, fans and gamers as a whole, how great these classic games are, how technologically advanced they were for their time and ahead of their time they were, how innovative they still are and can still hold up today and still be better, technologically advanced and have better gameplay than most games today and how they changed the gaming industry forever that got rockstar where they are today and made them a permanent brand name and the most internationally popular gaming company worldwide... Go and play your GTA online and please continue on your fanboying over gta 6 kid. Do you know how much it hurt us fans to see the all- time greatest classics get the treatment they got?? An overpriced, halfass broken release with bugs and glitches and missing content, dialogue and soundtrack and the beloved og trilogy the greatest trilogy in gaming history removed so console gamers literally can't play the OG trilogy the greatest games in history anymore.
They had 3 years to fix the game and they didn't. The LA Noire VR team took over and made these fixes so why is GS games complaining about it when they didn't bother to fix them and somebody else had to do their job?
I'm glad to see GTA videos again but I do know it's hard to find any new things to say about the franchise since there's no major updates on GTA 6 I'm hoping they give us trailer 2 during December or maybe the start of 2025
The Rockstar Launcher version has everything fixed and they updated the game to support newer os than Win 7 and 8. It doesn't have the usual bugs the retail version has on modern hardware
@@mjc0961 You got just the regular gta 4 or the complete edition? They only updated the complete edition in 2020 to version 1.20. The regular gta 4 and the separated eflc are still on the old versions
Idk, I don't care if they add extra bugs and errors to it, as long as it runs ok with better optimization than the original (cus I'm a PC player with a not good PC) it's good to me.
Remasters are for games that came out on the 360,PS3 even some early Xbox One,PS4 games. Games that came out over 15,20 years ago should be remade from the ground up, ESPECIALLY the GTA trilogy. Seeing old games get the "remaster" treatment is such a scam to me (metal gear, tomb raider, just to name a few) This whole situation goes deeper than just graphical, technical issues. The fact that they delisted the classic versions they had at the time for much cheaper & re-released it under a $60 price tag was absolutely outrageous only to give us the same exact game, only much worse, with music missing & content. & what's even more shameful is that Rockstar is a huge developer who most definitely has the fund to be able to give us the quality experience that we all wanted & deserved.
It's ok to have remasters if they are faithful to original games. I'd gladly play the original RE2 and RE3 over the reimagining garbage they released on PS4.
Its not fixed because it's not the definitive edition. It has missing songs, missing dialogue in cutscenes, missing game features. There is nothing definitive about this edition. It's an adaptation, inferior to predecessor. There'd an easy fix. Include the option to switch back to the origional game with ALL it's origional code present. Then I will buy it. The fact they removed the origional games from sale without am acceptable replacement is UNFORGIVABLE and will never be forgotten by fans ... EVER.
Songs were removed because of license issues. They are removed from the OG games on Steam and GTA4 also has this issue. They censored some words because in today's age there are many snowflakes that get offended for no good reason
Better late than never. The trilogy should still need updates and more major improvements. Like add mission replay/select, blood toggle on/off, strong language toggle on/off similar to Gears Of War, custom soundtracks, have GTA3 have gameplay features from VC and SA like jumping out of moving vehicles, spike trips, crouch even while walking and roll, and when saving the game, go inside the interior like how LCS did. And use cheats in the game that are actual gameplay features such as better handling become a skill from SA in GTA3 and VC, and the cheat where people follow you in VC but you can recruit your gang similar to the gang system in SA, and to find cars that drive in water in secret areas. And when camera switching, bring back the camera switch sounds in GTA3 and SA. And possibly have the driving camera be like the PS2 but still move the camera freely. And one thing I notice, i think when the update happened, I was driving like it was slippery.
I think the best part of the update is the removal of Grove Street Games from the splash and title screens lol Using shitty AI to upscale textures and "improve" various other things, is unforgivable.
@@tubularcandy812 i own all the other versions too besides the ps2 version i have the upscaled version on the 360 the mobile version of course the ps2 and definitive editions and the mobile definitive edition
The only issue about dropping the update when they did is why did it take so long to make the update and finally drop it? The suspicion on the internet seems to be something to do with a contract Rockstar and Take two may have had with Grove Street zgames hence why their names arent on the title screen of the Defenitive Edition abd the Switch j think was the last to recieve the update
A lousy product is always to be blamed on the parent company. Grove Street Game may have done shoddy work, but they didn't set the budget or the timeline, they didn't greenlight the game, and they didn't ship it.
One thing I do like, even though it's different from the original, is the new draw distance looks nice with the city skylines and the new lighting. Overall though, it's all a bit sour.
It hasn’t been 100% fixed yet. I just got done playing San Andreas and there’s still some glitches. There’s a car buried in the front yard at Ryder’s house. You have to press triangle multiple times to get out of the car. Sometimes the weapons wheel doesn’t come up. Cars still magically show up out of nowhere. Light posts still glitch when you run over them.
MY THOUGHTS: If Rockstar waited 3 years AND A DAY to release this...there was probably something in the contract stating that "GSG will provide all updates and maintenance for up to 3 years after release". Rockstar probably took those updates GSG provided and held onto them (as the tweet states) to have their in-house devs modify them and bring them up to Rockstars standards. Especially since they put trust into a studio that had already failed at their first job. Like why trust a studio can provide solid and promising updates when they couldn't even deliver a solid and promising product upfront, yk???
Interesting approach Rockstar had for the silent damage control. Almost the same as Blizzard stealth-dropping remasters of Warcraft I & II and almost fixing WIII Reforged. Rockstar just went in fixed thousands of things and quietly left a brief note "Improved lightning, fixed some bugs. That's it."
I actually don’t blame Grove street games entirely because they have proven that they can actually do good work like on how they updated Ark survival for the Switch to run on UE 4 with better graphics and performance
There's still some bugs that were present at launch, but this patch that came out of nowhere is a good sign Rockstar is actually gonna provide more patches down the road.
@@Kierstalin-u2qno theres still so much to fix though like the transparent tunnel roof, some fences in sa having no collision, blank billboard, tires of cars not touching the ground in the parking lot of jizzys club, floating rocks floating poles floating trees etc etc and btw I just checked in sa light poles still fall thru the ground and the red County swamp bug that makes cjs legs sink into the ground are still there... This better not be their last update... Just shows R* doesn't respect their all time greatest classic games that made them who they are and got them where they are today the most innovative technologically advanced games that were ahead of their time that changed the gaming industry forever. Fyi it released this update to restore fans faith in them cuz they about to release the next gta or something big before gta 6... R* has gone FULL corporate i miss the days when r* used to engage with fans on forums and reddit even until after the gta 4 was released... All of the old crew left the new crew is a bunch of gen zs who don't respect the old games nor have appreciation for them who only like new games with good graphics but have crappy storylines and are released broken and need continuous updates fixes and patches for months and months
I suspect that the versions released on Netflix were under some sort of contractual lock that required this patch to be delayed right up to this exact point
It is still bad imo. Modders have surpassed this defective edition many years ago with gillion quality of life changes. Silent patch alone let you hover in mid air with jetpack, something defective edition still don't have.
@tubularcandy812 when you hit light poles they sink through the road you got tires sticking out of the road.I just seen floating grass driving down the road but nobody cares the stupid Classic Lighting is good enough for everybody
i played the definitive edition when it first came out and though it was alright, i am playing through san andreas again (now with the updates) and i am loving it
Appreciate ya making this video, been wanting to play san andreas, but backwards compatibility dont work with disc on xbox one right now. Seeing it looks much better, i might grab it again
I think it's a pretty good update and I hope more updates do follow to make it qualify for the title of "DeFiNitIve" finally. I've never played the Definitive Edition but I'd like to at some point and I'm all for people having an actual competent alternative option to consider alongside the originals... maybe someday.
There are still annoying issues on Series X where the airport tunnel has a glitch where every time you pass by an upper cross beam in a car from the outside view especially. It kind of looks like it stops and starts for a split second and is really distracting. Also the push bike often partly disappears into the ground when you do stunts and hard braking. A lot of positives though such as the animated giant chook and pumping things n the desert in San Andreas are all working again. Also the gym having the moving punching bags working again is cool. I couldn’t get car washes to work but it may have just been because I jumped to that part of the map by swimming before you are supposed to just to check it out. What is a really pathetic move though is at least here in Australia they have bumped the purchase price up to $99.95 from 79.95 when not on discount sale.
Thanks Grove Street Games for ruining the chance of remasters of Red Dead and GTA IV. Dork CEO was a jerk out of the gate when the game released. Also weird as hell that they changed their name to "Grove Street Games" despite not being a rockstar subsidiary.
Both Grove Street Games and Rockstar were at fault tbh. But im cautiously optimistic that all three games will be fully fixed soon. I say cautiously because i dont want to get my hopes up just in case they decide to abandon the games again! I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, but we'll see.
The best way to fix this entire thing is to wipe the trilogy remaster off the face of the planet and then rerelease the old trilogy with remastered character models and that’s it. They lost the licensing for a bit of the music in the old games but they may be able to get some replacements that keep the feel of the era the game is set in and they should release them for free but they would never do that so at the very least on sale to say sorry for all fans having to even see this “definitive trilogy remaster”
Funny enough I was playing gta 3 on DE before the update and noticed the scribbly line texture of the puddle around the second savehouse. The update fixed that
I you make a mistake and the leader appoints someone else to fix your mistake, you have absolutely no reason to shit on the leaders decision. They hired GSG to make this game because they are busy with 6 and they tanked it. And the previous dev is gonna shit on rockstar on that?
I just don’t think this was ever going to work. The infamous examples of comebacks are NMS and CP 2077, but why were people so willing to forgive their abysmal launches? Because there was an actual foundation to build upon, which they just hadn’t at the time of release. But with GTA TT DE, we already know what the finished product looks like - the original releases. So why should I ever forgive a remaster that provides an inferior product simply because of some improved graphics and some minor touches like a weapon wheel, when the list of unnecessary problems is gargantuan by comparison? Because unlike NMS and CP, I can just play SA on my Xbox anytime I want, there’s no incentive to play a new version. So even if you fixed all the problems, my opinion has just been soured too much by what it was at release. There’s no reason to come back because I’m not coming to see new features, I’m coming to see a version which may look better than the original now deprived of issues it never had, when I had the original all along. It’s commendable to fix what they could, but in terms of the overall community feeling? I don’t think this will change any opinion whatsoever, the damage is already done.
Skyscrapers have been built in shorter amount of time. With Rockstars resources this is unacceptable. Why is everything so sterile and clean?! It doesnt feel like the originals at all
I mean how much can you fix something that was designed as a mobile port. That was the worst fucking decision they could have possibly made. It's a fucking mobile port on console
Ok ok, we get it. Y'all can stop uploading now. The state of the game is still absolutely atrocious, stop binge-watching people who claim otherwise. Play the original games or PS2 emulator versions or leave them. Just don't pay for this garbage.
@@chrisdelgado4621 Everyone has access to a PS2 emulator. What about piracy? The OG games are still better than the DE, even if it's free. The price tag doesn't change the horrendous state this shit is in lol
Your question why fix it now? Cause guys like me which is a lot are into classic games and remasters are the best options in that market. These news put the game on my map .
I did actually enjoy it I got it on Xbox one, but yeah it wasn’t nearly what I expected. 3 I played first and it did look a lot better but SA they really just didn’t give a shit. Either way I still have them so I’ll give them another go
Way too little, Far too late. When I saw the mess on release week and ALL the videos on TH-cam dragging it through the dirt, I Knew I wasn't gonna buy this game. Since "Anthem", I've stopped being hyped for games soon to come or on release day.
Frikken almost finished gta sa on playstation, till they rereleased the trilogy edition, basically voiding the stand alonr version of gta sa. Cant play anymore
I know the update is late af. But I just hope that this is not the last update they did, we need a perfect remaster if they gatekeeping us from buying the original version.
A perfect remaster based on the mobile ports is an oxymoron
@@mat7540 based on but they can still later on use original ps2, pc versions code and files to retroactively fix the games and keep adding features and fixes. Especially user music, camera and coop in sanandreas and add some extra features
Yes user music would be so so good!! It would be a great way to compensate for the songs we lost in the soundtracks and cheaper than licensing.
the originals will always be available(just sail the high seas matey), there really is no reason to relly on rockstar to fix the remasters if you wouldn't mind playing the originals
@@velikigospar yep! as far as I am concerned, I have got all the originals on PS2 and I am actually finishing GTA III 😁
Thought I'd touch base with the GTA audience. This remaster has been quite the blot on the landscape for some time so it's good to see Rockstar do something with it. I'd argue there are still problem areas to address so hopefully this won't be the last update. However, is it too little too late or is it better late than never? I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Rockstar sucks azz
The more they do this, the more the gaming industry is going to be okay with releasing half arsed games then updating them to full games 3 years later. This isn't something that we should praise for. Many companies are going to look at this and start doing the same thing.
Better late than never, but this shouldn't be how things play out. The games should've been worthy of being "definitive" from the very beginning.
12:00 , Just in case you didn't know you should run over that target with a car that's why he's almost immune to weapons and explosions.
Too late for this. Plus all the missing songs just make these games incomplete
Maybe rockstar wants to clear it's recent bad reputation because they have something big coming up.
As if GTA 6 sales would be affected by that lmao. It’s probably because some higher up decided to finally fix it for the pleasure and a few extra bucks. GTA 6’s sales will be so high that this game and everything about it will be insignificant.
They are planning to remaster gta 4 with both expansions
But when they havent mention in earning call recently?@deepaksingh-ku9uf
@thefallenvalley4340 GTA6 will likely get delayed, meanwhile they can milk the Definitive Edition more by fixing the game a little lol
@ hope it gets delayed otherwise i won’t be able to enjoy all the other games
It took them 3 years to update the game
and a day. Don't forget the extra day.
Two there was an update in 2022
@@Fizhyupdate in 2022 thats 2 yrs one day
There is fowl play a foot 🦶
Going by our boy Matt McMuscles...this is the year that the Definitive Trilogy SHOULD have been released. COVID-19, the lockdowns, and the limp launch of the 9th Console Generation (PS5, Xbox Seris) meant that Rockstar/Take2's cash grab re-re-relaunch of GTAV got pushed back, but the shareholders were expecting a quarterly profit, so Take2's CEO ordered the Definitive Trilogy remaster released to save face with his actual customers at the massive expense of the people that buy the product. Late-stage capitalism is a blight.
I definitely believe Grove Street Games' CEO when they say that despite fixing a lot of things in the Definitive Edition, they were ordered by Rockstar not to release it. And Rockstar just held onto that update til the right moment when they needed players to have faith in them again. Fuck corporate America - They let the little companies take the flak while they recieve the praise despite doing no work.
No they're just incompetent another studio took over and did this patch the same ones that did the vr for la noire
Maybe, but Grove Street Games' contract with Rockstar Games expired in March 2022, and the reason why the Definitive Edition was rushed was because Rockstar/T2 wanted to release something for the Holiday 2021 season. It's been rumored that many of the fixes done by Video Games Deluxe (who also did the Netflix/mobile version) couldn't be released on PC/console because Netflix had an exclusive agreement with Rockstar that just now expired. It's everyone's fault: GSG for biting off more than they could chew, Rockstar Games for not giving proper oversight/resources, T2 being really greedy, etc. I hope these remasters get more polish and extra added features/improvements that weren't in the originals because this is a DEFINITIVE edition.
that's how the world works my niqqa
Sounds like a take two move not Rockstar
Grove Street Games should've asked for atleast 2 years for each game. They aren't as experienced ( from what I've heard ) and having to remaster 3 huge games, that is loved universally is a HUGE task.
Where's all the trash in gta3?! The city looks TOO CLEAN...
"Why the streets so clean?"
I agree! They killed the mood of the city
Agreed, not only the trash, but the polluted fog/smoke that was constant.
Yeah I played a bit of 3 yesterday to check the fog situation and there wasn't one. I'm hoping they'll fix it soon because it's half the vibe of Liberty City@@Bruno-db3kq
The edition itself is the trash, that's where
1:47 I don't like where that plane is going ☠
Wym??
@@OscarArbaiza-pi4tg In the distance a plane can be seen flying very close to the purple building
I’m just so glad they fixed the fighting used to be impossible to finish the gang wars in San Andreas. It’s actually fun now. Thank you rockstar
What is the change here?
@@jmelia123 In the og SA, enemies were more accurate if you were in a vehicle but their accuracy would be reduced if you were on foot. In DE, they only had vehicle accuracy so you'd get chewed up in like 2 seconds.
Yes thank you for making the game playable at a bare minimum level after 3 years and just bearable enough to play, removing the OG games and charging a high price for the defective edition with loads of missing content like songs, dialogues, etc and while STILL HAVING TONS AND TONS OF BUGS GLITCHES AND ISSUES to fix like the transparent tunnel roof, some fences in sa having no collision, blank billboard, tires of cars not touching the ground in the parking lot of jizzys club, floating rocks floating poles floating trees etc etc and btw I just checked in sa light poles still fall thru the ground and the red County swamp bug that makes cjs legs sink into the ground are still there... This better not be their last update... Just shows R* doesn't respect their all time greatest classic games that made them who they are and got them where they are today the most innovative technologically advanced games that were ahead of their time that changed the gaming industry forever.
Fyi it released this update to restore fans faith in them cuz they about to release the next gta or something big before gta 6... R* has gone FULL corporate i miss the days when r* used to engage with fans on forums and reddit even until after the gta 4 was released... All of the old crew left the new crew is a bunch of gen zs who don't respect the old games nor have appreciation for them who only like new games with good graphics but have crappy storylines and are released broken and need continuous updates fixes and patches for months and months
@@CreutzfeldJakobDiseasepatientbro u need to touch some grass😂
@@lobotomite4468 dude you gotta stop kissing rockstars🍑 like a blind fanboy... Give a corporate multi billion dollar company criticism when it deserves it... Your probably a gen z who doesn't even know how much impact these games had on the gaming culture, gaming scene, fans and gamers as a whole, how great these classic games are, how technologically advanced they were for their time and ahead of their time they were, how innovative they still are and can still hold up today and still be better, technologically advanced and have better gameplay than most games today and how they changed the gaming industry forever that got rockstar where they are today and made them a permanent brand name and the most internationally popular gaming company worldwide... Go and play your GTA online and please continue on your fanboying over gta 6 kid.
Do you know how much it hurt us fans to see the all- time greatest classics get the treatment they got?? An overpriced, halfass broken release with bugs and glitches and missing content, dialogue and soundtrack and the beloved og trilogy the greatest trilogy in gaming history removed so console gamers literally can't play the OG trilogy the greatest games in history anymore.
Fixing the games and adding the original lighting is good, but they still, and always will, look like an Unreal Engine mess.
Nah looks good only problem is the bugs
They had 3 years to fix the game and they didn't. The LA Noire VR team took over and made these fixes so why is GS games complaining about it when they didn't bother to fix them and somebody else had to do their job?
I'm glad to see GTA videos again but I do know it's hard to find any new things to say about the franchise since there's no major updates on GTA 6 I'm hoping they give us trailer 2 during December or maybe the start of 2025
Maybe Rockstar should also fix that helicopter bug from the final gta 4 missions
The Rockstar Launcher version has everything fixed and they updated the game to support newer os than Win 7 and 8. It doesn't have the usual bugs the retail version has on modern hardware
@Mirra2003-f9s Cool, now they need to send those fixes out to the Steam version for everyone who already bought the game
@@mjc0961 You got just the regular gta 4 or the complete edition? They only updated the complete edition in 2020 to version 1.20. The regular gta 4 and the separated eflc are still on the old versions
instead of pressing the button you gotta swipe it on the last mission I hope it helps it did for me
@@mjc0961doesn’t that apply to steam as well since you have to have the rockstar launcher to play the gta games on steam?
at this point i don't know if i want gta 4 remaster or not 😰
I just want a switch port of it
@Boostdriven226 you think switch could run that game maybe switch 2
Nah, the original is available on xbox, we don't need them fucking up a masterpiece
Idk, I don't care if they add extra bugs and errors to it, as long as it runs ok with better optimization than the original (cus I'm a PC player with a not good PC) it's good to me.
@ PC version of GTA 4 is fine as it is
I just wish they would fix the Casino heist glitch in San Andreas with the garage door not opening for the forklift.
Remasters are for games that came out on the 360,PS3 even some early Xbox One,PS4 games. Games that came out over 15,20 years ago should be remade from the ground up, ESPECIALLY the GTA trilogy. Seeing old games get the "remaster" treatment is such a scam to me (metal gear, tomb raider, just to name a few) This whole situation goes deeper than just graphical, technical issues. The fact that they delisted the classic versions they had at the time for much cheaper & re-released it under a $60 price tag was absolutely outrageous only to give us the same exact game, only much worse, with music missing & content. & what's even more shameful is that Rockstar is a huge developer who most definitely has the fund to be able to give us the quality experience that we all wanted & deserved.
It's ok to have remasters if they are faithful to original games. I'd gladly play the original RE2 and RE3 over the reimagining garbage they released on PS4.
"Fixed?" - NO
"Better" - YES
Its not fixed because it's not the definitive edition. It has missing songs, missing dialogue in cutscenes, missing game features. There is nothing definitive about this edition. It's an adaptation, inferior to predecessor.
There'd an easy fix. Include the option to switch back to the origional game with ALL it's origional code present. Then I will buy it. The fact they removed the origional games from sale without am acceptable replacement is UNFORGIVABLE and will never be forgotten by fans ... EVER.
What is the missing dialog?
@@bryansteele832censoring haitian dialogues in Vice City missions from Avery or from Diaz I guess
Songs were removed because of license issues. They are removed from the OG games on Steam and GTA4 also has this issue. They censored some words because in today's age there are many snowflakes that get offended for no good reason
@@Mirra2003-f9s that means R* is woke n soft af 😂
@@Mirra2003-f9sThey censored every ps2 release after the very first release too, do research before blabbering.
STILL needs updates, lot of stuff still broken sadly.
Like what? People need to name things these things whenever they can so they’re more likely seen.
@@jgunner94 minor fixes like bringing the shooting mechanic of the classic gtas or atleast that vibe and not that camera fix locked when aiming
@@jgunner94 Like there is still no tree leaves and newspapers on the ground in GTA3
@@VdWckwoww heavy stuff
@@jgunner94 Texture and collision issues are still a big thing.
Better late than never. The trilogy should still need updates and more major improvements. Like add mission replay/select, blood toggle on/off, strong language toggle on/off similar to Gears Of War, custom soundtracks, have GTA3 have gameplay features from VC and SA like jumping out of moving vehicles, spike trips, crouch even while walking and roll, and when saving the game, go inside the interior like how LCS did. And use cheats in the game that are actual gameplay features such as better handling become a skill from SA in GTA3 and VC, and the cheat where people follow you in VC but you can recruit your gang similar to the gang system in SA, and to find cars that drive in water in secret areas. And when camera switching, bring back the camera switch sounds in GTA3 and SA. And possibly have the driving camera be like the PS2 but still move the camera freely. And one thing I notice, i think when the update happened, I was driving like it was slippery.
I think the best part of the update is the removal of Grove Street Games from the splash and title screens lol
Using shitty AI to upscale textures and "improve" various other things, is unforgivable.
I'm glad I own the original games on PlayStation 4
Ps2 version is not that great. Nostalgia is speaking.
@@tubularcandy812 i own all the other versions too besides the ps2 version i have the upscaled version on the 360 the mobile version of course the ps2 and definitive editions and the mobile definitive edition
The only issue about dropping the update when they did is why did it take so long to make the update and finally drop it? The suspicion on the internet seems to be something to do with a contract Rockstar and Take two may have had with Grove Street zgames hence why their names arent on the title screen of the Defenitive Edition abd the Switch j think was the last to recieve the update
In San Andreas Do they still got that guy that crashes his plane in the mountain?
No it's still ugly, they just trying to get more money before holidays.
It's better than doing nothing at all. But it's still better playing them on ps2
A lousy product is always to be blamed on the parent company. Grove Street Game may have done shoddy work, but they didn't set the budget or the timeline, they didn't greenlight the game, and they didn't ship it.
My question would have been, what was good about them? Knowing they were so bad.
Hopefully we get a vice city stories and liberty city stories remaster as well
I want them to bring back the classic tapping controls for the gym
Elon Musk The Website is wild hahahah
One thing I do like, even though it's different from the original, is the new draw distance looks nice with the city skylines and the new lighting. Overall though, it's all a bit sour.
It hasn’t been 100% fixed yet. I just got done playing San Andreas and there’s still some glitches. There’s a car buried in the front yard at Ryder’s house. You have to press triangle multiple times to get out of the car. Sometimes the weapons wheel doesn’t come up. Cars still magically show up out of nowhere. Light posts still glitch when you run over them.
MY THOUGHTS: If Rockstar waited 3 years AND A DAY to release this...there was probably something in the contract stating that "GSG will provide all updates and maintenance for up to 3 years after release". Rockstar probably took those updates GSG provided and held onto them (as the tweet states) to have their in-house devs modify them and bring them up to Rockstars standards. Especially since they put trust into a studio that had already failed at their first job. Like why trust a studio can provide solid and promising updates when they couldn't even deliver a solid and promising product upfront, yk???
Interesting approach Rockstar had for the silent damage control. Almost the same as Blizzard stealth-dropping remasters of Warcraft I & II and almost fixing WIII Reforged. Rockstar just went in fixed thousands of things and quietly left a brief note "Improved lightning, fixed some bugs. That's it."
I actually don’t blame Grove street games entirely because they have proven that they can actually do good work like on how they updated Ark survival for the Switch to run on UE 4 with better graphics and performance
Yeah it needs a lot more to be "Definitive Edition"
There's still some bugs that were present at launch, but this patch that came out of nowhere is a good sign Rockstar is actually gonna provide more patches down the road.
There's a 50/50 chance Rockstar will release GTA 6 that's as buggy as this .
Can I borrow Elon Musk the website? That joke was very funny!
Wish the would bring back 2 player in san andreas
3 years later I can finally play these games and enjoy them
Yes.😊
No
@rebus_x5313 yes.
@@Kierstalin-u2qno theres still so much to fix though like the transparent tunnel roof, some fences in sa having no collision, blank billboard, tires of cars not touching the ground in the parking lot of jizzys club, floating rocks floating poles floating trees etc etc and btw I just checked in sa light poles still fall thru the ground and the red County swamp bug that makes cjs legs sink into the ground are still there... This better not be their last update... Just shows R* doesn't respect their all time greatest classic games that made them who they are and got them where they are today the most innovative technologically advanced games that were ahead of their time that changed the gaming industry forever.
Fyi it released this update to restore fans faith in them cuz they about to release the next gta or something big before gta 6... R* has gone FULL corporate i miss the days when r* used to engage with fans on forums and reddit even until after the gta 4 was released... All of the old crew left the new crew is a bunch of gen zs who don't respect the old games nor have appreciation for them who only like new games with good graphics but have crappy storylines and are released broken and need continuous updates fixes and patches for months and months
@@CreutzfeldJakobDiseasepatient yeah but I don't care about all that. I'm happy.
No lie iv been binge watching your vids for the last 2 weeks
Thanks i didn't bought it at release and i waited. Now i have a good feeling
I suspect that the versions released on Netflix were under some sort of contractual lock that required this patch to be delayed right up to this exact point
It is still bad imo. Modders have surpassed this defective edition many years ago with gillion quality of life changes. Silent patch alone let you hover in mid air with jetpack, something defective edition still don't have.
Sanandreas is still a piece of trash.Everybody thinks some classic lighting is going to fix it
Please explain
@tubularcandy812 when you hit light poles they sink through the road you got tires sticking out of the road.I just seen floating grass driving down the road but nobody cares the stupid Classic Lighting is good enough for everybody
My guess to why the patch notes arent extensive is because its outsourced, so it may not be documented the way rockstar would usually do it.
i played the definitive edition when it first came out and though it was alright, i am playing through san andreas again (now with the updates) and i am loving it
Appreciate ya making this video, been wanting to play san andreas, but backwards compatibility dont work with disc on xbox one right now. Seeing it looks much better, i might grab it again
First time I ever been this early to your videos 😂 love the content! They made it look beautifully similar to the originals and that’s all we needed
I think it's a pretty good update and I hope more updates do follow to make it qualify for the title of "DeFiNitIve" finally. I've never played the Definitive Edition but I'd like to at some point and I'm all for people having an actual competent alternative option to consider alongside the originals... maybe someday.
Ive been wanting to get the definitive edition for a while but was waiting for a huge bug fix, and a few days ago was my day
These games are so much better than V
Is it updated on ALL plateforms? Can I play with the update on PS5? I don't have it on PS5 I have to download it.
It won’t be fixed until they make the cheats work like they used to
There are still annoying issues on Series X where the airport tunnel has a glitch where every time you pass by an upper cross beam in a car from the outside view especially. It kind of looks like it stops and starts for a split second and is really distracting.
Also the push bike often partly disappears into the ground when you do stunts and hard braking.
A lot of positives though such as the animated giant chook and pumping things n the desert in San Andreas are all working again.
Also the gym having the moving punching bags working again is cool.
I couldn’t get car washes to work but it may have just been because I jumped to that part of the map by swimming before you are supposed to just to check it out.
What is a really pathetic move though is at least here in Australia they have bumped the purchase price up to $99.95 from 79.95 when not on discount sale.
We could pause cutscenes before. They just added that new pause menu so its like gta 5
Thanks Grove Street Games for ruining the chance of remasters of Red Dead and GTA IV. Dork CEO was a jerk out of the gate when the game released. Also weird as hell that they changed their name to "Grove Street Games" despite not being a rockstar subsidiary.
yes its finally worth buying for 20-30$ actually fun now
First the RDR PC port, and now this, hopefully they decide to remaster GTA IV as well...
Fizhy doing GTA news, TGG streaming RDR2...did the two of you accidentally Freaky Friday yourselves this weekend?
Both Grove Street Games and Rockstar were at fault tbh. But im cautiously optimistic that all three games will be fully fixed soon. I say cautiously because i dont want to get my hopes up just in case they decide to abandon the games again! I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, but we'll see.
can you get the OG trilogy if you purchasd the definitive on steam? or is it only applicable if you purchased in R*?
Now if only they'd put some effort into RDR Online
first thing i did was go to the San Fierro impound. about time it got fixed
Just read that Rockstar isn't done yet and still plans on fixing the game more
The best way to fix this entire thing is to wipe the trilogy remaster off the face of the planet and then rerelease the old trilogy with remastered character models and that’s it. They lost the licensing for a bit of the music in the old games but they may be able to get some replacements that keep the feel of the era the game is set in and they should release them for free but they would never do that so at the very least on sale to say sorry for all fans having to even see this “definitive trilogy remaster”
Funny enough I was playing gta 3 on DE before the update and noticed the scribbly line texture of the puddle around the second savehouse. The update fixed that
I you make a mistake and the leader appoints someone else to fix your mistake, you have absolutely no reason to shit on the leaders decision. They hired GSG to make this game because they are busy with 6 and they tanked it. And the previous dev is gonna shit on rockstar on that?
It should've never been a mobile port. They're still putting out updates for it. So it's not fully fixed yet.
I just don’t think this was ever going to work. The infamous examples of comebacks are NMS and CP 2077, but why were people so willing to forgive their abysmal launches? Because there was an actual foundation to build upon, which they just hadn’t at the time of release. But with GTA TT DE, we already know what the finished product looks like - the original releases. So why should I ever forgive a remaster that provides an inferior product simply because of some improved graphics and some minor touches like a weapon wheel, when the list of unnecessary problems is gargantuan by comparison? Because unlike NMS and CP, I can just play SA on my Xbox anytime I want, there’s no incentive to play a new version. So even if you fixed all the problems, my opinion has just been soured too much by what it was at release. There’s no reason to come back because I’m not coming to see new features, I’m coming to see a version which may look better than the original now deprived of issues it never had, when I had the original all along.
It’s commendable to fix what they could, but in terms of the overall community feeling? I don’t think this will change any opinion whatsoever, the damage is already done.
Maybe they did it for holiday sale.
Skyscrapers have been built in shorter amount of time. With Rockstars resources this is unacceptable. Why is everything so sterile and clean?! It doesnt feel like the originals at all
I’m really tired of this modern gaming trend where you have to wait years after release for the game to be playable.
Still needs more fixes. Cops in San Andreas look so bad. The cop cars aren’t even black. They are green
Should be illegal to sell broken games on release in first place, like this 🙂
I mean how much can you fix something that was designed as a mobile port. That was the worst fucking decision they could have possibly made. It's a fucking mobile port on console
Not fixed yet, seen some issues, pop ins, traffic lights and poles drop throw the ground, vehicles change when you look away and back in a road.
Maybe its finally worh buying.
It's literally an IPhone Mobile port update because Iphone San Andreas got the patch update 3 days prior to the console Patch Updates
Ok ok, we get it. Y'all can stop uploading now. The state of the game is still absolutely atrocious, stop binge-watching people who claim otherwise. Play the original games or PS2 emulator versions or leave them. Just don't pay for this garbage.
1. Not everyone has access to the original versions.
2. Piracy and second hand copies are a thing.
@@chrisdelgado4621 Everyone has access to a PS2 emulator. What about piracy? The OG games are still better than the DE, even if it's free. The price tag doesn't change the horrendous state this shit is in lol
Your question why fix it now? Cause guys like me which is a lot are into classic games and remasters are the best options in that market. These news put the game on my map .
No, it's not "fixed" yet. It's decent and not horrible anymore, but still needs a couple more patches.
There's less glitches gameplay is smoother and the radio stations don't glitch
is it really that hard to update textures for a twenty year old game?
I wouldn’t mind if it looked like GTA4’s models and details. And to fix the lighting reflected with the models.
San ferro police station garage finally can go down but the door doesn't open you can hear it but you can just walk through
Now if 343 could fix Halo MCC coop on PC...
Videos not loading, are the ai still aimbots?
I did actually enjoy it I got it on Xbox one, but yeah it wasn’t nearly what I expected. 3 I played first and it did look a lot better but SA they really just didn’t give a shit. Either way I still have them so I’ll give them another go
W for rockstar & L for GSG. Simple
The cheats still don't work
How is it fixed if they still left stuff out from the original game?
Way too little, Far too late.
When I saw the mess on release week and ALL the videos on TH-cam dragging it through the dirt, I Knew I wasn't gonna buy this game.
Since "Anthem", I've stopped being hyped for games soon to come or on release day.
How is everyone so dumb ?
Its a marketing move for gta 6 and nothing more...
The traffic is deafening loud in gta 3. Or is that just me?
Frikken almost finished gta sa on playstation, till they rereleased the trilogy edition, basically voiding the stand alonr version of gta sa. Cant play anymore
Still no reverse lights and a boat load of bugs. Only a slow person would call these games fixed 😆
Short answer there was nothing wrong with the game people just cry too much
Did they fix getting out of breath in 2 steps. Tht don’t happen to y’all? Tf
3:37 - 2011? Just a decade off there :P
Gta 3 was remastered for mobile phones in 2011. The trilogy the definitive edition is based off the mobile versions of each game bub