FORGOTTEN WEAPONS! The swords you DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT

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  • There are hundreds of types of sword, knife and other historical weapons that you might not have heard of. In this video, we look at a couple of rare, or at least not widely known, swords.
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  • @scholagladiatoria
    @scholagladiatoria  3 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    I wasn't prepared for all the Ian McCollum references, but I love his stuff and would certainly welcome a collaboration at some point.

    • @danblack7609
      @danblack7609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’ve got an old what I think, and big emphasis on think here, is a ww2 German machete lying around. I could send you pictures if you’d want to use it for your mystery knife series.

    • @Immopimmo
      @Immopimmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Gun Jesus vs Sword Buddha.

    • @Ordo1980
      @Ordo1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      2:33 We were not a colony. Hungary was another main state in the Empire. Especially after 1887 + We had differences with the emperor before (eg. revolution in 1848), but on paper the emperor was a rightful King of Hungary as well through a hereditary connection - a Hungarian viewer

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      If you're going to do a collaboration with good ol' Gun Jesus, you're going to need a lot more French weapons. lol

    • @WolfKenneth
      @WolfKenneth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes please!

  • @kaeskawood9020
    @kaeskawood9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    Ian: "I sense a disturbance... as if thousands of voices cried out all at once, and then watched a video."

  • @filipelsr
    @filipelsr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    The last one is what we brazilians call "Terçado"
    The "terçado" is a military tool/weapon in the middle ground between a Machete and a Knife, with a cross guard.

  • @londiniumarmoury7037
    @londiniumarmoury7037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    I know what it is, it's a Space Marine knife.

    • @MtRevDr
      @MtRevDr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Guess the flat surface could have a mirror surface to reflect some death ray away.

    • @Blueswailer
      @Blueswailer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Maim the Heretic! Purge the Xenos! For the Emperor!

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Blueswailer BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GROOVE! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL POMMEL!

    • @Hubert_Cumberdale_
      @Hubert_Cumberdale_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@JinKee MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES!

    • @peterstoneberg7120
      @peterstoneberg7120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Astartes Opinel

  • @Gapeagle
    @Gapeagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    From the overwhelming head hair of Ian to the absolute baldness of Matt.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Yin and Yang?

    • @LazyLifeIFreak
      @LazyLifeIFreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@scholagladiatoria A collaboration would be absolutely fantastic!

    • @LamgiMari
      @LamgiMari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@LazyLifeIFreak Subject suggestions? French bayonets?

    • @LazyLifeIFreak
      @LazyLifeIFreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@LamgiMari Bayonets primary, maybe some of the weird shovel/trowel combination. Maybe the pike and shot era, I bet the guy from InrangeTV, whats-his-name, would love that being the black powderhuffer that he is, lovely guy.

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@LazyLifeIFreak You mean Karl? Any excuse for him to unload his mighty blunderbuss at something is always welcome!

  • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
    @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    That's not a fuller, THIS is a fuller! (Pulls out Austrian pioneer sword).

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You could eat soup out of it

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps it should be a “fullest?”

    • @leomarin2205
      @leomarin2205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i have one of this ,, in 1987 the militia confiscate me , becose in romania it.s notaloud to kip historical sword ,evan its found orr is family haritage ...

    • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
      @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leomarin2205 man, that is rough. What do they think you are going to do with it, start a civil war?

    • @leomarin2205
      @leomarin2205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 thay were afride thath :)) no longar come the 89 ..and my sword and the oficcer how take my sword disepiret .. fuck with tham ..

  • @SonsOfLorgar
    @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Looks like a decent choppa to me, down right orky dat is.

  • @michaelshelton5488
    @michaelshelton5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Normally when I see a "Forgotten Weapons" alert on my TH-cam notifications I thunk guns rather than swords. I guess it all depends on the "Context" 🤣

    • @michaelshelton5488
      @michaelshelton5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think guns, not "thunk" 🤣

    • @jojomarujo8704
      @jojomarujo8704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha, half-asleep me think that Ian finally made a video reviewing a fancy bayonet of some sort, only to realize that i'm on the wrong channel .

  • @Fragaut
    @Fragaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Suggestion "The Obscure Armories" "Armamentaria Obscura" to stay with the scholagladiatoria theme

  • @thebonecone
    @thebonecone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    How about -
    “The unknown context”
    “Obscure context”
    “Lost context”
    Or “Matt Easton and the search for the lost context of the odd teardrop shaped spank paddle”?

    • @johnladuke6475
      @johnladuke6475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Context Winners"

    • @2Axiom
      @2Axiom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Forgotten context"

  • @AbenZin1
    @AbenZin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    My first guess: Is that a bayonet for a cannon??

    • @Baker_7498
      @Baker_7498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      must be Japanese then

    • @MidnightSt
      @MidnightSt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "Drive my cannon closer, I want to see the whites of their eyeballs as they splash on my face!"

    • @Seallussus
      @Seallussus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidnightSt,
      Commissar Fuklaw, is that you?

  • @tonys8243
    @tonys8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Hey Matt have to start calling you Blade Jesus with all this forgotten stuff.

    • @Jaggaraz218
      @Jaggaraz218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Maybe something like "Blade Buddha" would be more fit seeing the severe lack of hair

    • @OdachiForge
      @OdachiForge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jaggaraz218 you beat me to it😂

    • @michaelbrostek5008
      @michaelbrostek5008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think Skallagrim fits that title more, given his hair and beard.

    • @tonys8243
      @tonys8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tuukka Aaltonen ...you nailed it spot on 😀

    • @maximilianolimamoreira5002
      @maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jaggaraz218 yeah, all hail the blade Buddha

  • @animalxINSTINCT89
    @animalxINSTINCT89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Came into this expecting to see Ian McCollum

    • @skoshman1
      @skoshman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am also expecting a video on the bladed tools and weapons of the Elbonia military at some point in the future.

  • @GrimBrotherIV
    @GrimBrotherIV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Playlist name suggestion: the Armory Obscura

    • @spacewater7
      @spacewater7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Armouria Obscuria

    • @spacewater7
      @spacewater7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Armouria Obscura

  • @pensmith
    @pensmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "It cuts, it stabs, it smashes, it bashes, it hammers, it batons logs into planks, and can be used as a plate. The pioneer sword now available by mail order for three easy payments of..."

  • @calebdoner
    @calebdoner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "Forgotten Weapons" is already taken. Your style of going through history and design is quite similar to Ian's videos and quite engaging. I never thought I would enjoy listening to a discussion of an edged weapon, but I really do. You are rocking it. I literally clicked on this video because I thought it was a collab with Ian...which you should totally do.

  • @historyandsabre
    @historyandsabre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Austro-Hungarian M1853/89 Pioneer's sabre, I've been planning to do a video on that in the near future aswell comparing it to the M1915. Cheers from Austria!
    The maker is Striberny of Vienna, they made all sorts of military swords in the late 19th century.

    • @WhimsicalWondersPotential
      @WhimsicalWondersPotential 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Faschinenmesser" It's not that hard to pronounce, even for an "Insloff"

  • @Langenschwerte
    @Langenschwerte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Seriously, would love to see you do a collaboration with McCollum over at Forgotten Weapons discussing exotic bayonets and 19th century rifles.

    • @SurmaSampo
      @SurmaSampo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also the changes in tactics in response to weaponry advancement.

    • @howardchambers9679
      @howardchambers9679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have to be French rifles..

  • @TSTD_Punisher
    @TSTD_Punisher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Script idea for a movie where Ian as Gun Jesus and Matt as Blade Buddha have to save the world from some 17th-18th century threat. Maybe zombie Napoleon. Set in France, so Ian can wear some cool hats.

  • @will9501
    @will9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I regret to inform you you have violated copyright and trademark of one gun jesus. You have three fortnights to desist, or provide remuneration in the form of obscure French weaponry. Good day Sir.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Remuneration in peculiar hats and headwear might be permissible if obscure French armaments is unfeasible to provide.

    • @robertsmith4681
      @robertsmith4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Both Gun Jesus and Blade Buddha can coexist in harmony you know ...

    • @will9501
      @will9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertsmith4681 quiet possibly sir, but intellectual property theft is not the best introduction...

    • @will9501
      @will9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SonsOfLorgar my mistake in drafting, I forgot to include that alternative election. Prospective drafts will include such language.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      very well, my good man.

  • @lowlandnobleman6746
    @lowlandnobleman6746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Forgotten weapons, you mean like half the Oakeshott Typology?

    • @lowlandnobleman6746
      @lowlandnobleman6746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Particularly interested in seeing Oakeshott Type 13s, 13As, 13Bs, Type 19s, Type 20s, and Type 11s. There’s already way too many redundant rehashed videos about Type 10s, Type 12s, Type 15s, and Type 18s. Also Dudgeon daggers, as well as those weird 7th-9th century AD Irish shortswords.

    • @jaybluff281
      @jaybluff281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you read Carol van Driel-Murray's article on the Leiden scabbard finds? Lots of good stuff on the XII, XIII and XVI.

  • @lolfunacount
    @lolfunacount 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Matt should totally review that famous russian shovel MPL-50 in context of it being a weapon, curious how it compares to random medival and post medival weapons...

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      need that clip from The Sopranos where they try to get that spetznaz guy to dig his own grave so they hand him a shovel.

  • @ondrejh571
    @ondrejh571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    "The point is that there is a point. And that is the point." Indeeed

    • @alexbaumans6493
      @alexbaumans6493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pointed remark.

    • @ondrejh571
      @ondrejh571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexbaumans6493 I could not resist pointing that out.

  • @eduardocharlier7560
    @eduardocharlier7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Wait... Forgotten weapons? Is this a hint at a collab with Ian?

  • @nunyabidness8870
    @nunyabidness8870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Don't bring a knife to a Gun Jesus fight.

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not even a very big knife like that?

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It depends on the range... One whack and you'd be truly disarmed...

    • @helphelpimbeingrepressed9347
      @helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matt advances on gun jesus:
      th-cam.com/video/fFufoOgCMW8/w-d-xo.html

    • @EmilReiko
      @EmilReiko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its all about timing.. You wait for the attack, till he is reviewing an african poachers zip gun

    • @GOREilla.
      @GOREilla. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe a french one.

  • @avw160
    @avw160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "The point is...that is the point."

  • @FortyTwoBlades
    @FortyTwoBlades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Interestingly you find a similar asymmetric blade form on a lot of 19th Century American corn knives, which were made using methods similar to those used in American pattern scythe blades.

    • @jamesmoechnig3855
      @jamesmoechnig3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Corn knives! This is the first time I've seen someone outside my family mention the things! Thank you! We used them regularly growing up, for anything you'd use a machete for. Several of the ones we used were stamped "Austria" at the base of the blade.

  • @burnttoast26
    @burnttoast26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another video on Schola Gladiatora. I'm Matt Easton, and today we have a look at a really interesting knife...

  • @butwhataboutdragons7768
    @butwhataboutdragons7768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That pioneer's sword is really well-designed for field work. It's heavy enough to use as an axe, or a hammer, but as a knife you can also carve with it, whether you're carving wood or the meat on a roast. Seems to me as thick as it is you can even use it like a pry bar. So it replaces all those, AND it's easier to carry in a sheath on your belt or hanging off your pack or something. Impressively utilitarian and compact space-saving design.

    • @keithbill310
      @keithbill310 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever used a knife as a crow bar ? NO

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@keithbill310do you know context? He said it looks thick enough to use as an pry bar, don't try to compare this to an little knife

    • @anthonyclark9159
      @anthonyclark9159 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stefthorman8548well let's not compare any knife to a crowbar, there have been many attempts, but when you really need a crowbar, only a crowbar will do.

  • @michaelshelton5488
    @michaelshelton5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "Mexican Bowie knives are bigger than Texan ones." Dem's fightin words! 🤣

    • @IceniBrave
      @IceniBrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Make Texas Mexico Again

    • @Nomercy721
      @Nomercy721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IceniBrave that's a good joke there

    • @Nico96as
      @Nico96as 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean during half of the 19th century Texas was Mexico, so perhaps we can say that they both had the biggest knives.

    • @michaelshelton5488
      @michaelshelton5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nico96as Texas was only part of Mexico from 1821 to 1836

    • @Nico96as
      @Nico96as 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@michaelshelton5488 You made me go and look up Texan history, and it seems much more complex and nuanced than i had originally supposed from a quick overview, thanks for pushing me in that direction.

  • @tombrown8800
    @tombrown8800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If Lynn Thompson is watching Cold Steel will be coming out with a version of this by October 2021.

  • @StergiosMekras
    @StergiosMekras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ~12:00 I love how he didn't even mention Australia. If you're over there, no weapon will save you from the wildlife, not even firearms. #emuwar

  • @Greensleeve11
    @Greensleeve11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I vaguely remembered a video on Haitian machete fighting when you showed that second sword/knife. So my instinct was a machete modified to be a better fighting weapon by someone around the Caribbean.

    • @jordanhicks5131
      @jordanhicks5131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the same thought but Mexican, the guard shape is very similar to Mexican fighting machetes

  • @redfishradical
    @redfishradical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "That's not a knoyf!-uh-actually-yeah-THAT is a knoyf!" Cheers Matt, LOVE these vids, as I've almost entirely burnt out on the repetitive, brain rotting shit on tv, your channel has become a mandatory part of my week. Great job brother!

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn. I'm Austrian and wouldn't have recognized it. However, I did attribute it to pioneers

  • @jonah9046
    @jonah9046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    collaboration with ian mccollum when

  • @poopsled
    @poopsled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I was really hoping for a parody of the forgotten weapons channel 😜 (still a good video so far though)

    • @skoshman1
      @skoshman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm really glad it wasn't. Not that I would mind, but getting a good Forgetton Weapons video is never a bad thing! (Even if it is missing Ian)

    • @poopsled
      @poopsled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skoshman1 just imagine Matt with an Ian wig and mustache though 😜

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@poopsled needs to be set at an auction house with a lot of black table cloth.

  • @denerbrandelero9766
    @denerbrandelero9766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here in Brazil, that kind of hook was used by pioneers (bandeirantes) in knifes called "sorocabana", that were made by Solingen and were very common as working knifes.

  • @danblack7609
    @danblack7609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve actually seen a lot of American civil war Bowie knives and Arkansas toothpicks that are around the size of that South American machete.

  • @krissteel4074
    @krissteel4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An area of utility knife-weapons you could also look at is the Gaucho Knives from south America. Mostly common to some parts of Brazil, Uruguay and very popular in Argentina were the cowboys down there used them because of a lack of firearms in the area. You get a real mix of Spanish, German and British produced blades which are typified by local silver smiths ornamenting the handles and sheath to various degrees.

  • @demos113
    @demos113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You look nothing like Gun Jesus, impostor!!!! ;-)

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda sus, ngl.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jintsuubest9331 he's doing tasks, I'll give him a pass.

  • @DebatingWombat
    @DebatingWombat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a slight comment on terminology: The Austrian Empire would not become Austria-Hungary until the Compromise (“Ausgleich”) of 1867 in the aftermath of the empire’s defeat by Prussia in 1866. So, this fascine knife would’ve been a product of the Austrian Empire, not the dual monarchy (as the 1867-1918 Austro-Hungarian empire/state is often termed).

  • @ahabicher
    @ahabicher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me as an Austrian it felt a bit jarring to hear that Austria "colonized" or "conquered" the Empire. Austria was a pretty un-militaristic Empire, and often lost fights, or got help to win them (famous example: Sobieski in 1683!). It won conflicts by making good deals and grew mainly through marriage. That is also true for the acquisition of Hungary: The Hungarian King died fighting the Ottoman Empire, and he was married to the sister of a Habsburg; thus, Hungary fell to House Habsburg. The famous saying went "Tu felix Austria nube": While others made wars, Austria married their heirs.
    Austria began to struggle when Prussia emerged -- a very much more military-minded culture.
    Our best generals were usually foreigners, like Prince Eugen from Savoy.
    From an Austrian perspective, the Czechs, Hungarians, Croats, Slovaks, Slovenes, and others, felt like brother nations, not colonies or conquered folk, and Vienna was a very multi-ethnic city. (Although clearly the feeling was not mutual, as can be seen by the example of czechish demands for freedom, and the drastic implosion of the empire after losing WW1.)

  • @xazelnighthaunterfanboy975
    @xazelnighthaunterfanboy975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LoL I have that exat same Pioneers knife just different handle. I did not know what it was thinking it was some sort of machete. Found it in old house we had after some old dude. I just kept it by the bed in case some burglar showed up. Now I got this video randomly in recomendations...Thank you TH-cam Algorithm, AND THANK YOU MATT EASTON!

  • @ogivecrush
    @ogivecrush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very much reminds me of the bowie knives carried by Glanton's band of scalp-hunters in Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian." They were described as big enough to cut off a man's head, which this one could seemingly do without too much effort.

  • @Simon-Wolf
    @Simon-Wolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating weapon. Thank you.
    One day, please do tell the story of how you made the transition from writing and appearing in the Rocky Horror Show to the world of antique arms... :)

  • @equesdeventusoccasus
    @equesdeventusoccasus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The machete reminds me of one of the machetes used in Haitian Fencing. (Tire Machèt.)

  • @johnladuke6475
    @johnladuke6475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmmm, an interesting little-known weapon? I'd love to see an in-depth look at a Maori war club, but I can't imagine where you'd ever get access to one that you could show on camera.

  • @luisgarciadonate8282
    @luisgarciadonate8282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mr Easton
    I will start saying that when compared to you Im a total ignorant in what concerns about antique weapons . That being said, I think that the second sword that you show could have been made out of some kind of spanish saber beacause the style of guard and handle are very similar to some models and also the thicknes of the blade suggest that to me.
    Hope this can help
    I apologize for my bbad english, Im from Spain
    I Love your videos I have learned so much watching you keep up with that good work
    Best wishes

  • @whiskeytangosierra6
    @whiskeytangosierra6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am thinking Argentina gaucho knife. Those tip of south america cowboys loved big knives.

  • @INTERNERT
    @INTERNERT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hello and thank you for tuning in to Forgotten Context, I’m Mian McEaston

  • @skepticalbadger
    @skepticalbadger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The problem is not Matt calling this video "Forgotten Weapons", it's Ian calling his channel that and then doing nothing but guns for 9 years.

    • @jeffreyroot6300
      @jeffreyroot6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Untrue! You’re ignoring his bayonet videos! Trowel bayonet, bolo knife bayonet, full sized cavalry Sabre bayonet, as well as any time a bayonet was actually available for the long arm in focus. And the one collaboration with Inrange and the Great War Channel about close combat melee weapons in the trenches.

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guns are weapons.

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think he has much access to rare swords, considering he lives in Rock Island auction house

  • @bigalspartyshack1840
    @bigalspartyshack1840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait a minute this isnt the rock island auction house

  • @0rimus
    @0rimus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oooh! Do one on Yataghan sword bayonets! Specifically the Turkish Peabody model. Severely underrated weapons

  • @nickwilliams8302
    @nickwilliams8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the spirit of "letting the Internet name things", this playlist should be dubbed "Swordy McSwordface".

  • @presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889
    @presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey guys! Thanks for tuning in to another video on ForgottenWeapons.com, I'm Ian McCollum and today we are going to talk about bladed weapons which I normally don't talk about.

  • @chringlanthegreat4556
    @chringlanthegreat4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My suggestion for the playlist: Weapons without context (the unknown weapons of history)

  • @angusmacgyver
    @angusmacgyver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I would need to defend myself against animals, I would like a spear, not a sword.

    • @nonFireresist
      @nonFireresist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I understand, that you want to maintain the distance... But in overgrown bushy jungle of South America there is nothing like "space" or "area" in the sence you usually are used to understand it.
      (Not experienced it by myself, just using words of my preffered author and explorer...).
      Well my point is, that in that context, even though normally the spear has to have pretty good and fine point, in that environment it might be rather pointless...

    • @b.h.abbott-motley2427
      @b.h.abbott-motley2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nonFireresist Alexander "Sasha" Siemel hunted jaguars with a spear, supposedly killing at least thirty-one in this fashion. He learned from the local practice in Brazil.

    • @Regolith86
      @Regolith86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spears are a bit of a pain in the ass to carry around, particularly when you need to be doing things that require both hands. A big ol' knife or machete can be strapped on and carried at all times.

  • @TheRantinghick
    @TheRantinghick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well my guess was way off. If it had a drop point it would be a righteous bowie knife. Well add another one to my want list. I assumed the 2nd one was used at sea or a jungle maybe both. I dont think id of argued if you called it a bowie with either one.

  • @DRINKIWHISKY
    @DRINKIWHISKY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Weapons with forgotten context

  • @whyjay9959
    @whyjay9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the fuller is machined out, having it on only one side removes a step from the manufacturing process.

  • @BalbazaktheGreat
    @BalbazaktheGreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Central America" is the term you are looking for.

    • @JeffHays
      @JeffHays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or Mesoamerica

    • @Stroggoii
      @Stroggoii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JeffHays Mesoamerica was half of Mexico downwards. Central America is Guatemala, Belice, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama.

    • @JeffHays
      @JeffHays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stroggoii Exactly, Matt goes on to talk about Mexico. The more inclusive term gives flexibility to cover more areas the blade could be from.

    • @BalbazaktheGreat
      @BalbazaktheGreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JeffHays I don't think I've ever heard the term "meso-america" used to talk about the region in a modern or near modern context, but Matt does indeed go on to talk about Mexico which is firmly in North America, so perhaps that term is more appropriate.

    • @JeffHays
      @JeffHays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jo Jo Everyone has already said that.

  • @SouthpawZer0
    @SouthpawZer0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "The shape of the tip tells you things."
    - Captain Context, 2020

  • @Feldscher1039
    @Feldscher1039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After World War 3 we will have future M. Easton looking over blades from the 2000's and just going "I have no idea what they were thinking....maybe it looked cool to them?"

  • @monsterhunternathanultimat4114
    @monsterhunternathanultimat4114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    removes glasses to read small print, puts them back on to look at camera. lol!

  • @KonguZya
    @KonguZya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty good guess on the second one, Matt, but it's clearly the sidearm of a pirate from Neverland, made for cutting through the jungle and battling wild creatures while on the hunt for Lost Boys. The notch is a dead giveaway!

  • @MidnightSt
    @MidnightSt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Can you make me a really huge bowie knife?"
    "...why?"
    "Because Mexi-CAN!"

  • @contentioushackery
    @contentioushackery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The shape of the tip and thickness of the blade on that first pioneer sword makes me think it would be pretty good at digging too, compared to anything other than a shovel.

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball3778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scary how much knowledge about weapons is seeping into my brain from watching these videos. When he showed off that first sword my first thoughts were that it looked a bit like a cross between a messer and the French 'cabbage chopper' he'd previously shown, and sure enough that's basically what it is. I wasn't quite as good with the second one- sort of wondered if there was a theme and whether there was a particular European nationality that particularly liked falchions, and whether it was their equivalent... But then I did as an afterthought think that it was a chopper but the clipped point was like a Bowie knife, and that maybe it was something used by American soldiers in one of their colonial wars- like in the Philippines or Cuba, as a combination sword and machete. In other words, I got it wrong, but I did start thinking along the right lines- I knew enough to recognise a few key features and their purpose. Anyway- goes to show what an effective educational resource this channel is.

  • @mikeboone4425
    @mikeboone4425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would be the average length of these Mexican bowies you seen or own . Happy Trails

  • @cesarvidelac
    @cesarvidelac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen pieces like that here in Chile, they were used as artillery/ engineer machete for bushing, preparing positions and constructing in the battlefield during the second half of the 19th century. I don't kow at this point of the video if that piece was used like that, but here in Chile you find them as I described.

  • @stevenkobb156
    @stevenkobb156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about simply the, "Rare Treasure Armoury?"

  • @rapacides
    @rapacides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey matt, you should put the spelling of a sword's name on the screen (particularly when you're not sure how to pronounce it). as an austrian, i had no idea what you said when you attempted to name the austro-hungarian messer.

    • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
      @gustavmeyrink_2.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Faschinenmesser. Wenndu Faschinen entweder bauen, zerstören oder überwinden willst.

  • @joe-hanhairy3882
    @joe-hanhairy3882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey S.G , there is a wakizashi-sword converted from a O-yari blade wich has a tranglar cross-sec one one side and a flat cross-sec on the other (Asymetrical) , you can see on google images. Also str8-bladed and double-edged - so all-in-all ; very very rare for a japanese sword.

    • @tombrown8800
      @tombrown8800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would like to see that

  • @ryddragyn
    @ryddragyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Byzantine sword video, please.

  • @Valkanna.Nublet
    @Valkanna.Nublet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not sure about calling it "forgotten weapons" when there's an entire channel of that name.
    Maybe "obscure weapons"?

  • @ChateauBeaufort
    @ChateauBeaufort 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really Arab/Moor Scimitar Design influence Moors Arts Architecture, Gardens, & Crafts left Spain... often moving into the periphery of the Spanish Empire... South America,Philippines & after 1580, to Brasil.

  • @KroM234
    @KroM234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The second "knife" reminds me a lot of the types of backup huge knives (especially the hand guard's shape and the bowie style of the blade) by some Southern troops during the American Civil War, you can find photos of zouaves like the Wheat Tigers or Louisiana regiments. Some of these weapons' guard have this curved leafe shapes and some even have a full guard protecting the hand like a sabre. The shape of the blade really reminds me of the kind of bowie knives (some of which got huge) produced in the South back then. Some blades was even fatter than this one while being half its length. There wasn't any regulation from what I know.

  • @Aconitum_napellus
    @Aconitum_napellus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't get into a knife fight with a polar bear.

  • @javik1929
    @javik1929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When i first read "forgotten weapons" i expected this to be a vid about the very first kinds of firearms featuring Ian McCollum lol

  • @jurgenstoll2394
    @jurgenstoll2394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love the Faschinenmesser (pioneers knife). It's the perfect tool for the job - from a bushcraft point of view! The specific form of the blade reminds me of the asymetric edge geometry of a right-handed Behaubeil (carpenters axe) or a Schnitzbeil (sculptor hatchet). These were not used for chopping down trees or splitting wood. They were used to give shape from a round log to a beam with an square diameter.

    Pioneers were not only ordered to dig trenches or to build bridges. They were also the ones on the front of a siege to fortify their workspace against cavalry as a counter measure from the opponents. They had to go there (mostly in night time) and build up Spanische Reiter (cheval de frise). To secure smaller spaces (e.g. the space between two Spanische Reiter) you square up pole wood and ram it down.
    The geometry of the blade provides the pioneer also an opportunity to dig small post-holes for the poles. Right hand on the hilt, left hand on the backside of the blade with your fingertips in the groove. This should work incredible fast!

  • @a.s.j.g6229
    @a.s.j.g6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s Blade Jesus

  • @technicoloryaya549
    @technicoloryaya549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. I always enjoy your videos. I learned a new thing and I appreciate that.

  • @impcirca1988
    @impcirca1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The point is, there is a point. That's the point."
    Matt Easton, 2020

  • @jellekastelein7316
    @jellekastelein7316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another suggestion for your obscure weapons playlist would be the Cuban Guanabacoa machete. Not really a machete since the blade is very heavy, and has a cross section kind of like a long single handed katana. They also have a very distinctive grip, with a hooked pommel and deeply scooped out spaces for the fingers, usually (but not always) without a guard. It is a very distinctive type of sword from the Americas, one of few that doesn't have any obvious European origins AFAIK.

  • @blakewinter1657
    @blakewinter1657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'Hello, this is Ian McCollum, and today I'm here at the Matt Easton auction house, taking a look at a couple of REALLY interesting swords. So what are they? Well, we'll get to that, but first...'

    • @johnladuke6475
      @johnladuke6475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Now just for anyone who's unfamiliar, swords are like really really long bayonettes that you don't clip to anything. The internal mechanics are REALLY simple, but disassembly can be pretty difficult."

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnladuke6475 Ian: First we gotta drive this roll pin out of the pommel to get to the tang. Hmm it seems pretty locked tight in there.
      Lockpicking Lawyer: "let me try. little click on one, and it's open."

    • @johnladuke6475
      @johnladuke6475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JinKee
      Skallagirm: Gimme that pommel!

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnladuke6475 shadaversity: well the thing about this pommel is that we only really started seeing them quite late even though they look quite simple there's a lot going on here.
      Tod's Workshop: I made one of those. It is for sale on my website. When you compare it to the historical examples in the Tower of London, my reproduction is much more regular and clean in its lines.

  • @buffewo6386
    @buffewo6386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like several antique bowies from Mexico/Texas. And yes they were larger the further south you went generally speaking.
    But that one looks to have about a 20-22 inch blade (correct me if I'm wrong), and most of the large bowies I am used to are 10-14 inches with the odd one closer to the 16-18 inch range.
    And now I have to research "corn knives." Curse your commenters, Matt. They find rabbit holes for me to fall down regularly...

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    +scholagladiatoria *The Bowie knife proper was developed in the United States, spec. Louisiana Territory,* in the wake of a no-contest duel 27 September 1827 that turned into a rumble among the prospective witnesses. Having survived the Sandbar Fight at Vidalia, James Bowie detailed the tactical shortcomings of a butcher knife he used against two attackers; with brother Rezin and New Jersey-native toolsmith James Black, he designed a 15" full-tang knife with a rudimentary brass guard and a sharper, better-penetrating clip point than on the majority of _lange Messer_ crafted in German Central Europe up to 1827, pattern-welded and forged at Black's workshop in Arkansas; Latin Americans took up where the Bowies left off, extending the blade past the half-metre and crafting _machetes_ fit for battle.

  • @GeorgeSaint666
    @GeorgeSaint666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stopped at 0:48. I am going to guess a sword used in the navy? Okay,... let's see if I got this right.
    (Later...) Darned!!!
    Okay stopped at 14:03. Lets try this again. It's from India?
    (Later...) Darned!!!

  • @jameswoodard4304
    @jameswoodard4304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The term you're looking for is Central America. In History or Archaeology, Meso-America. In the sense of "Mexico and South," Latin America. Mexico is awkward as it is often considered both as a part of North America and Central America, but never South America.
    To someone from the US, "Middle America" means the broad central part of the US as opposed to the East or West Coasts with all the cultural connotations that go along with it.
    Listening to this reminded me of most of us Americans when we try to talk about the geographic and political distinctions within the British Isles. "British doesn't equal English...unless you ask certain Irishmen." 🤦‍♂️

  • @Jarumo76
    @Jarumo76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had no idea you have a supplier in Catachan, Matt.

  • @seanheath4492
    @seanheath4492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you're talking about the knife (or the guy it's named after), it's pronounced BOO-ee, not BOW-ee. Sorry, it's kind of a pet peeve of mine. :P

  • @ADKwarriors
    @ADKwarriors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was actually just looking beautiful example of the exact pioneer sword in the vid on Ebay its going for 799$ at the moment

  • @ryuukake
    @ryuukake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    -My guess was waaaay off on the pioneer knife, Turkey
    -SYMBOLOGY! (pardon my Boondock Saints)
    -Your second thing makes me thing of a magicians prop. over sized and easy to see at a distance.
    -The guard goes against that, it's kind of slim to not go for stage work.
    -Well that was off again, I don't think I should be switching careers quite yet

  • @claspe1049
    @claspe1049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like what they call a Faschinenmesser in the German speaking parts of Europe, used to cut thatch for artillery positions.

  • @samuelbhend2521
    @samuelbhend2521 ปีที่แล้ว

    That hook at the End of the Handle is just there to prevent the Machete/Billhook flying out of your Hand while using, just like a big Pommel on a Sword. It fullfills the same Purpose as the "Birdbeak" on the Faschinenmesser.

  • @seanpoore2428
    @seanpoore2428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pausing at 2:24 to make my guess that this is an austrian "cabbage chopper"......aaaaand Play!
    I was right!!! XD also the region you're trying so nobly to name is reffered to as 'central america's (North, Central, and South America)

  • @DrVictorVasconcelos
    @DrVictorVasconcelos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Importantly, one of the reasons that the Austro-Hungarian Empire didn't spread much beyond central Europe is that they could spread to central Europe. At a time when the borders between the Portuguese, Spanish, French and Brits had stabilized somewhat, they had to seek land elsewhere. But the Austro-Hungarians could gobble up the Slav states (on which Russia was also interested).

  • @DeadnCold
    @DeadnCold 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Pioneer Sword looks like a bigger, more crude version on the M1907 Spanish Infantryman's Bolo I have. THe Bolo might be a good one to look at, it's sort of a jack of all trades knife. Built heavy like the Pioneer Sword for hard work, but shaped to be more useful as a weapon. At least in my most likely misguided opinion. They even made it into a bayonet for the 1941 model even though it probably didn't make for a very good one.

  • @DrVictorVasconcelos
    @DrVictorVasconcelos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's Central America, not Middle America 😂 Though I guess it's fine to say center America simply in terms of geographical position, and Mexico isn't in Central America anyway.