Flying wyvern ecology : Rathalos and Rathian revisited for the 20th anniversary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มี.ค. 2024
- It's not a surprise that the true staples of the series have acquired a lot of theories on them over the years. Too many for just one video in fact - so let's go for round 2!
*Reuploaded due to audio issues with the first one
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I'm almost disappointed that this video isn't called "Flying Wyvern Ecology: Ultimate."
Really should have called it this in hindsight
@@unnaturalhistorychannel It's not too late, you can always change the title.
Honey wake up, new unnatural history just dropped
twice
I didn't think one could improve on perfection, but like seismic/volcanic activity, the peak can always get higher.
UHC video: round 2
the remake we didn't expect , but of wich we won't complain about
I've never considered that animals have a sort of intergenerational "wealth" to provide for their offspring, but it makes sense. Humans do this in a much more literal way, with laws on inheritance being its own sub-field within the law. So it makes sense that these apex predators would have something to pass on to their offspring. A Rath that grows up quicker can claim its own territory and nesting grounds much easier than one that was poorly provisioned. Such a fascinating concept to apply to monsters!
One seems to imagine, then, that those laws are simply social expressions of these principles?
@@ShnarfbirdPerhaps it’s the other way around, and these are simply the best analogies we can hope to make with our very human perception.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick It is just a consequence of resources being limited in time and space. Not everyone can have everything everyone else has, and that is true for all organisms, from microbes to humans.
@@Zeocins Most of humanity’s social stratification is manufactured BY humans.
Microbes don’t have socio-economic systems or classism.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormickSocial stratification is part of the social contract. When we humans disagree about things IRL, we must make compromises. So yes, social stratification is a social construct, but it keeps us from social anarchy.
I get to watch this again? Fantastic!
That Nargacuga drawing is IMMACULATE
you can really feel that bishatens sadness with the expertly drawn :c face
Years later and they remain my favorite true flying wyverns
We are so used to seeing the Raths that we probably don't bother wondering about them, when they are everything but basic.
Merry anniversary btw!
Man, I can't believe the Raths will be able to legally drink next year
They can already drink in europe
Always though Tea Common Shark's animations would work well in your videos, glad to see one in the video
it speaks volumes to the quality of your writing that you can convey so much new information as well as older information from the first video, and still make it so engaging and fun to watch
Perfect surprise for my evening! Great video man
You could make a really cool “movie” from the perspective of a rathalos raised by one of the side mothers of the large alpha in the area, feeling resentment towards his neglectful father before attempting to usurp him
Man, this channel is so amazing and appreciates something I love so dearly in a way that I never couldve done on my own. Your work is expanding Hunters' understanding of both the series and our own intricately complicated world. I hope you know just how valuable your work is!
I do when I receive comments like this!
Damnit TH-cam, you should have given me the notification for this video!
Anyways, happy anniversary to Monster Hunter. Any video from UHC I *have* to watch, especially Monster Hunter.
I would like to point out that the metabolic control displayed by the flying wyverns may not come partnered with the ability to lower metabolic rate, but rather that the basal metabolic rate of these animals may simply not be very high. Hunters see them in one specific context, and that's combat, so assuming that to be the baseline metabolism for any animal would be a bit of a stretch. I mean, hell, humans are a good example here, with adrenaline altering metabolism during those very same moments, but having a continual flow of adrenaline will cause significant systemic damage.
In other words, I think the question of "lowering" their metabolic rate may be less prevalent than what their actual metabolic rate is in comparison to when we see them.
Oh nice. Version 2!
(TH-cam be that way)
Another great video, love the focus on this video and learned a lot of interesting stuff on social animals I hadn't heard of before.
Where it all started, pretty surreal seeing a second video on the raths
I’m excited to see more on the king and queen of the skies. Great stuff!
Fun fact: in MH4U, Heaven's Mount also has a Rath nest similar to the Ancestral Steppe, and on rare occasions you can find both Raths present at the same time.
Rewatching!!! Tell him how good his videos are, people! Don't skip ahead either!
I’d love to see a video discussing the Felynes and Melynxes, as well as our palicoes, since I’ve wondered how they would’ve evolved speech and being bipedal. Plus they have their own culture and everything.
My two favorite video game franchises have turned 20 years old now. Pokemon, now Monster Hunter.
The monster with one of the best ecologies
I love this videos they inspire me to do a project to make monsters more realistic
Dang, Monster Hunter is older than me!
What a great video for celebrating 20 years of hunting!
This is a recurring problem. Too many crap religious teachers.
Dragons irl were hunted down before the Vikings owned all of Europe.
Another great video, i love the raths breeding shenanigans it makes me wish they made one of those documentaries they did in animal planet for meerkats.
I loved your series on WWZ but it’s really nice to se w you return to MH
shout out to moaten for always coming in with good peripherals.
Y'know, for the longest time I thought "Rathian" was spelled "Rathion", and never noticed it did, indeed, have 2 A's.
Rathian has been one of my favorites for a long time, and the queen that she is (in any color) will always get my support!
"Are you ready for round 2?"
almost need to rewatch the seregios video after how much you bring it up in this vid XD
Refreshed!
Happy to see this on my favorite series twentieth anniversary.
That's an interesting thought! ^_^
Anyway, sorry for being off-topic, but do you think that accurate dinosaurs will ever be in a Hollywood movie? I mean, Prehistoric Planet was a huge success thanks to the dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and other extinct animals in that paleo documentary being as accurate as possible, but I hope that movies will include accurate extinct animals one day in Hollywood.
^this, as much as I enjoy JP/JW designs for the most part… an absolute unit Tyrannosaurus, at least in my opinion, is 1000x more intimidating then the shrink wrapped skin T-Rex the general public is used to.
I thought that pink rathian/ azure rathalos were supposed to be the more nutritionally advantaged versions of their more traditional counterparts. To that end, would these more brightly colored counterparts not be the nested raths?
Hell yeah a second rath video!!! One thing i was wondering about them in World was why is there no habitat overlap between pink rathian and azure rathalos despite them being seemingly the same species ?
Guess we can say this is gonna be fire 🔥…
wyvern
That information on patterns was awesome.
screw it. SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK SCREW HAVING CLASSES FROM 8 TO 1 WE GOING LATE!
but not too late because I'm not insane.
So generational wealth affects the animal and monster kingdoms as well.
Note: Seregios are not local to the Old World and seem to migrate there in small numbers only erratically. In 4th gen there is a mass-migration, which is unusual and seems to be treated like a potential ecological crisis. I feel like speculation in this video that talks about the relationship between raths and seregios can mostly only be applied to the mysterious land they come from, which I don’t think we’ve seen yet.
I'd be curious to see the difference in clutch sexes from singleton rathians vs those bonded with a rathalos. I'd love to see if there were parallels between baboons and rathians in that females who are lower on the totem pole and struggling more often produce larger numbers of male offspring to spread their genes as a male always has the potential to rise to becoming dominant either in usurping a current dominant male or in claiming a territory for his own. Compared to the bonded forest raths who if it is true they allow their offspring to stay in or around their better territory then female dominated clutches may be better since those stronger females will inherit the territory of their mother. Just a theory though , great video as always.
i have been thinking about bio-energy and come up with a theory that i like. to start of with we know that bio-energy is found mostly concentrated in volcanoes and it can be stored in minerals and crystals. Knowing that my first theory is that all of the breath and blast attacks monsters are able to do came from a monsters ether vomiting or sweating excess bio-energy out. This would be able to explain a lot of monsters extraordinary abilities like fire breathing, elemental aspects and general gigantism. My idea on how this would effect evolution would be like this, lets say the raths started started out remobra sized. they gather in flocks dominated by heads of each gender and use poison for hunting and defense. one day a rath gains a mutation to lite its bio-energy vomit safely, while this is not good for hunting its great for protecting itself from predators and inter-species fighting. it would suddenly make its genetic line much more viable and spreed out to all. now able to hunt more and bigger prey their main pressures would be to be bigger, have stronger flames and become more fire resistant. this would continue until they become to big for close social groups and spreed out, till they become the dragons we know today. Another aspect of bio-energy would be body utilization. examples of this range from ore-eaters diet to rapid bodily changes like nergigante rapidly regenerating its quills. An example of this in game could be deviljho. From Unnatural History's theory of deviljho's inbreeding we can conclude a few things. first is obviously the negative effects from all the bad genetics. second is that some form of stress will cause a deviljho to go savage. so my theory is that deviljho has some form of musth, during this they would produce a lot of dragon element and gain body mass. then do to poor genetics ether the musth never ends or the organ that produces dragon element goes rampant they are suddenly stuck in a high burn metabolism. do to they not being able to eat minerals replace any bio-energy they are stuck hunting more and bigger game to fuel huge and growing appetite to keep up with not only use of dragon element but also muscle growth and use. this culminates in a in a huge deviljho to be in a near consent state of starvation, causing not only ravenous predation of nearly anything it sees as possible pray but also mental instability ultimately leading to death. This leads me to the final part my theory elder dragons. As i have just stated with deviljho extreme usage of bio-energy is hazardous, so how are they even able to survive much less have super death lasers. Well most elders have a theme 1)the are top order predators in whatever region they live in 2)they live in and around volcanoes (ie areas with large amounts of bio-energy) 3) they are at lest partially geovorous. If we add all of that together we can come to the conclusion that they natural just absorb and store way more bio-energy than most anything else, and as such nearly anything they do with it will be to an extreme. In conclusion elder dragons are just the monster equivalent to poison dart frogs.
to anyone who reads all of this thank you and sorry for the grammar.
Where does Valstrax fit in that theory?
@@Hyper_Drud it would fall under the sweat based side of the theory. the only way i could see something becoming a fighter jet dragon is this, first Valstrax would gain a mutation that allows it to ignite the bio-energy it expels. then it would lean in on the thrust side of that ability making it similar to a falcon in its predation. finally as it further adapted for thrust based flight its wings became more stout and the membranes subsumed into the glands that expel bio-energy. the reason so few of them are seen is that thrust based propulsion is wildly inefficient and they may have huge territories in only the most productive areas for their species
Thank God another UNC monster hunter video, I was starting to withdraw symptoms lol I still look forward to your world war z content tho
so good
Fascinating about these creatures.
Been loving the world war z content, glad to see a monster hunter video from you too!
I’ve thought about it a lot and have a proposed phylogenetic tree for the life of monster Hunter based off our world.
From LUCA, we have the main divide in animalia is between invertebrates and vertebrates. Within the invertebrates, the groups branch out similarly to how they do in our world, with mollusks including cephalopods such as Narcarcus and then the arthropods containing the carapacians, temnescerins, neopterans, and arachnids.
With the vertebrates, there is an immediate branching between the typical tetrapodal vertebrates and hexapodal elder dragons (placing them here since other groups seem to have specialized epidermal abilities as well, such as the ice armors of Zamtrios and Gos Harag, Barroth and Agnaktor’s armors, Urragon’s tar-like substance, and Garangolm’s sap- maybe this is a trait that is shared amongst the vertebrates)
The tetrapodal vertebrates then split similarly to our world,
1) fish- including ceadeus
2) amphibians
3) amniotes- containing the fanged beasts and reptiles
The fanged beasts branch similarly to our world (rodents, langamorphs, carnivora, Proboscidea, promascus, even/odd toed ungulates, cetaceans). Humans and Feylynes are also here in addition to Kirin
In the reptiles, the leviathans branch off first. Shortly after, herbivorous reptiles then branch off, with apceros, aptonoth, and renoplos being more closely related than slagtoth and larrinoth. From here, we then get to the wyrens and allies.
The wyrens have three main divisions: four legged, voulant, and bipedal. The four legged wyrens include all fanged wyren, the terrestrial snake wyrens, and god wyrens, with a more reptilian-like subdivision (great Jagras, great gyros, narjarala) and more mammalian like subdivision (zynogure, lunagaron, odogeron).
The bipedal group consists of the raptorial bird wyrens, brute wyrens, Gargua, and birds. This group is similar in respect to the coelurosaurs of our world
The voulant wyrens start off as wingdrake like animals and thus the wing drakes branch off first. From here, some of these primitive wyrens then split between terrestrial/aerial and aquatic lives. The aquatic variants end up becoming the piscine wyrens, and the terrestrial variants end up becoming the flying wyrens, voulant bird wyrens, and voulant snake wyrens (most of these species have very similar wing structures, thus it makes more sense that they all would evolve from a single common ancestor or instead of Flight evolving multiple times in multiple families).
Plesioth is the most basal piscine wyren, with cephadrome being more derived and then the lungfish-like piscine wyrens being more derived still
In the terrestrial/areal group, the voulant bird wyrens, voulant snake wyrens, and cave wyrens branch off first. Gravious branches off next. wyren rex is the next branching point which gives rise to two groups 1) pseudowyrens 2) true flying wyrens- also including the bloswyrens
A NEW UHC VIDEO?! LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Are you going to be doing a breakdown on the trailer of Wilds in the summer
Nice
Now we need the Fatalis biology! 😈🐲
I eat Chairs
So I get why the pink and gold counterparts of rathian struggle to displace their inferior green counterparts cause of genetic structuring but why are the azure and especially silver rathalos so uncommon since they wouldn’t suffer from the the nesting issues and could easily defeat a red rathalos and take its territory
Competition with each other? Maybe instead of travelling far like other males, they’re more likely to fight each other over prime territory? Maybe female chicks are given preference and fewer males get that head start?
@@blairdurward4324 true but still I don’t see how a silver couldn’t just do whatever the hell it wanted to since obviously some make it to adulthood those few should still be able to dominate the gene pool at least in their area
My headcanon is that metal raths have higher energy requirements in general but especially in growing to full size, plus are more dangerously aggressive, which balances out with their being better in combat to an extent that they are overall fewer with full-grown adults being very rare.
Ngl my real reaction to seeing this vid pop up was: Yaaaaaay spec Evo from unnatural history!
Nice to see our favorite flagships revisited, i have one little question though, didn't the artbook and some characters in world said their behavior was completly different in the old world ? The pair in the former being "bond for life" while in the new world there is an Alpha Rathian that get to stay by Rathalos's side, until there is a big royal rumble to decide wich Rathian gets her place with the King.
In anyway i hope they'll make Rathian stronger in future games, as a fan of her i'm not a big fan of the pushover she is now, though i get the "learning monster" role she has now, its sad to see the very first monster ever created, as well as the flagship that never was, being so overshadowed by almost every monsters. I miss the MH4U Pink Rathian days, girl was a menace back then, though i might be the only one to be in that case.
Can you make a video about the Alien Biospheres series?
10:15
rathalos: bro just be better, smh
I’m surprised you didn’t go over golden girl and fortune son😅
Will you ever do Agnaktor?
lamo was fighting a Qurupeco while listening and it summoned a rathian.
So uh, Zinogre won as the communities 1# favorite monster . . . . . How does that make you feel?
I didn't get to vote, but that's awesome to here!Zinogre is my #1 favorite monster in the whole franchise. I've heard this dudes grievances about zinogre and while their valid.....sometimes you just gotta abide by the rule of cool 😎
Personally, I really don't like zinogre. His design is too beige, and it does not fit with the blue. I really don't see what is so special about his fight. And his ecology is dumb AF. But it seems my opinion is not very popular😅.
I wonder if it’s just base Zinogre or if it’s all variants?
Well, don't know about y'all, but this video IMO is way better at celebrating the 20th Monster Hunter Aniversary than accompanying a live-stream that is almost 3 hours with a large portion of it being an uninteresting podcast.
Hey man, how about a video speculating the evolutionary path of humans in the world of Monster Hunter? Besides other races in monster hunter, humans seem to be different from us in our natural world, given that they are probably more resilient and have greater stamina to fight giant monsters.
...or there may be a piece of lore I don't know about which tells that humans came there from another world or smth...
Oof to the first upload
Yey
This was very interesting but I don't think that I know what world/property you are looking at. Would someone please enlighten me ? Thank you.
Is it called (MONSTER HUNTER) ? if so is this a book series or video game etc ?
Monster Hunter is a video game series, yes.
@Hyper_Drud thank you for taking the time to respond and resisting the social media sickness of Douchebagery. I don't know anything about the property but I thoroughly
enjoyed the video. I hope that you and those you care for are happy, healthy, and safe this new year. Semper Fidelis
Why the re-upload?
I assume because his audio cut out near the end of the video
Because the last minute or so, with some of the games trailers playing, didnt have audio(which it does now).
I prefer Zenith Rathalos he's funny
No mention of the Jurassic Frontier in tbe areas Raths can be fought together in, 0/10 worst video ever.
Jokes aside another great video!
Iam still sick of seeing them. A fun story idea would be to investigate why a area couldnt support Raths or other large predators above ground.
The plot of Stories 2 is about an elder dragon somehow attracting Rathalos all over the continent to feed on them.
Stop using white background, it burns 🔥 watching 👀 your videos at night 😢😊