That stuff about Teostra's dust causing lung damage makes me want to see a video covering the worst injuries monsters could give you as a hunter. kind of like the ecosystem services/hunting video though i'm not sure if it's more to do with the people rather than ecology, i just really like it when UHC brings up the monster human relationships topics.
Alright, consider all that. And remember Alatreon was canonically stated to share a lot of other Elders power alongside elemental instability. Imagine surviving the microwave that is Escaton Judgement. That CAN'T ever be healthy for you.
The dander has always been one of my favorite parts of these two as I find it a genius concept on top of being not even that hard to believe (given what can happen in mines) so I'm glad to see them done justice here. The part about how much more lethal and damaging Teostra's dust explosions are compared to any other monster in particular was really nice, as it properly shows why the two specifically are so feared as elder dragons when so many monsters these days just have explosions tossed onto them to be another thing they can do. There's a scene in one of the mangas where a local population worshipped an abnormally large and brutish Brachydios they called "Godslayer", and the story of it ends with a Teostra coming down and killing it easily. Given the sheer devastation it's unique blasts could cause on the lungs and other internal organs it's completely unsurprising. They don't give gold to second place.
Ok but that idea about a teostra deviant based off the Tsavo maneaters would be fucking cool. Making it like primordial malzeno, with adjustments to the base dragon's proportions, would work well with this idea, with a lither and starved-looking teostra. They would obviously need a quest with a pair of them as well, to make the reference even closer. Edit: oh boy next episode is about "big ugly," that'll be neat
Lunastra was a surprise for me since it's not often a monster properly weaponizes heat and fire combined. I know people hate her, but she's still one of few monsters im prompted to be cautious about which i enjoy such challenges
I would say that my particular dislike of her is only in regards to her supernova in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne. I like her as a monster and concept, and was sad when they pretty much got rid of her for so many games.
Paleontology in the Monster Hunter world must suck ass as both a profession & a science. I imagine that it must be very disheartening to spend months carefully excavating the bones of long extinct creatures only for some big-chinned dinosaur to either crush them with said jaws to eat them or stick them to it's body & roll away, more than likely destroying the fragile bones. Or some fire lion moving into a potential fossil site and just casually destroying anywhere from a few to dozens or hundreds of fossils with a single click of it's jaws because it wanted make a nest.
Teostra being found in the gen 2 swamp I think are primarily there for Sootstone ore which can be found in the caves by the giant crystal clusters. I recall it being said in Hunting Life that the area is rich in it. Sootstone is described as being crucial raw component in making their cannon ammunition and is likely now also used for other explosive artillery weapons. Sootstone probably contains a lot of either sulphur, nitrates or phosphorus. These minerals are possibly like salt for the fire ED pair in order to make their dander and help fuel their auras and attacks. And now that humans have developed gunpowder weapons it makes the competition for it so much fiercer between humans and the duo. It also doesn't help them much that something as large and powerful as Gogmazios is also competing for it. Teo and Lunastra raiding towns and forts for their gunpowder stores are maybe really desperate individuals.
So, I started with Rise. As a total newbie, yeah, I struggled a bit in the early game, but eventually I got going and just could not be stopped. Few monsters could get me to fail a quest, and many couldn't cart me twice. And then Teostra carted me eight times in a row. Yeah, he triple carted me twice and was en route to do so again when a lucky turf war turned the tides in my favor by allowing me to recover just enough to defeat him. From that moment on Teostra became, and still is, my favorite monster in franchise. And it also helps that his Rise theme is just perfect.
There’s just something about that first real wall monster! Reminds me of my experience with Bazelgeuse in World, who remains my best boy. Teostra in the same game was when my ears finally woke up, and he was the first time I hunted a monster specifically to hear its music again. 😌
Teostra is one of my personal favorites when it comes to Elder Dragons, both as a fight and as a concept. While I would love to see more of a focus on new creatures in Wilds, I really hope Teo/Luna make a return because the idea of the fight sparking a county wide firestorm sounds astronomically badass.
Namiel would be awsome in Wilds! Imagine the fight shifting from dry desert to thunderstorm to flood and back to dry again. It probably wouldn't go down that way, but for now everything is game lol
I really am wanting a Chameleos video now. I’d love to see how you explain his invisibility. He’s also just one of my favorites because he’s goofy, but strong too.
Man I love Teostra's design so much. Also yay Nergis next, I really hope that wont be a rant video he's practically my favorite elder cause he feels kinda primordial looking. Plus he's strong and preys on elders but he's not invincible.
imagine if in wilds a tornado is capable of picking up Teostra's dander and light on fire, creating a firenado. it could be a byproduct of a turf war between Kushala and Teostra/Lunastra.
Hey dude Just gotta say I’ve recently been binge rewatching your videos while at work and you’ve reinvigorated my live for this series so much i decided to reinstall World and do a replay. Thank you for your studious work, its an inspiration
Thank you for the awesome analysis as always And yo the Teostra video coming out the same day JJK chapter 259 drops in which Sukuna uses a dust explosion is CRAZY
I was rewatching this video when I made a connection that made me look at a character in a new light. The Huntsman is often seen having not much stamina, having to fight in short bursts and often having to sit in meetings with the Research Commission. Now this could be due to his age, but most other First Fleet members aren't slowed down by their age so much so Huntsman would have to be significantly older than the rest of the First Fleet including the grizzled and grey Commander. However there could be another reason. As someone who has a loved one with COPD, not being able to properly breathe can significantly reduce one's strength and stamina to the point that they can have trouble holding things or standing for extended periods. The Huntsman also appears to have a history with Teostra, though I can't recall if it is the same Teostra as the one from the quest or the species in general. So it is possible he took a blast from Teostra in the past and though he survived it significantly damaged his lungs which has crippled him but a true master never rests, especially on the Research Commission. He still has much wisdom to impart on newer hunters and even steps in himself when needed though as seen by his fight with Velkhana sometimes his limits can't be pushed past.
Despite what other people thought of it I really liked the fact that it was lunastra that killed the hunters in the animated Netflix special. It's simply made sense considering the amount of dangerous surrounding that monster and her reputation
Great video and you brought up some amazing points on their psychology, and ideas for Wilds. Lastly I can't wait for the Nergigante video as he is one of my favorite monsters and see your take on his ecology.
I always wondered about why the fire lions had wings--among their many other strange physiological adaptations. I always figured it was high fantasy references as an elder dragon thing. So imagine my surprise when you pointed out the classical Persian griffon reference!
Teostra and Lunastra were my favorite fights in unite, with Lunas gear is amazing and both having unique weapons. Risen Teostra overall is one of favorite hunts along with its gear being amazing.
"It's said to be aggressive by hunters" Apart from assaulting out of fear at the start, it could be generational trauma... at least as to why especially Old World monsters appeared to just try to kill on sight regardless of your intentions nearby
13:58 (Godzilla minus one spoilers) also the refraction point you made her reminded me of the method they used to try and kill godzilla in minus one. Where they basically tried to use atmospheric pressure changes by making him sink and then rise extremely fast and it def was destructive. Makes me think the only real threat/predator to their pair bond may be an Akantor
Also I wouldnt mind a Intersex Teo/Lunastra who circles between Blue Fire, Heat, Blast, and normal Fire Mode. Interesting is, Lunastra and Teostra, mainly Lunastra are probably based on a old Chinese Legend, where a Moon Goddess is guarded by two flying Lions. Lunastra is a female flying Lion whit a Moon Theme. And her Armor might be potencially Chinese Inspired, but I am more speculating there. Sounds like a save bet. Monster Hunter has like 229 Monster, many of them Recolors, or colosely related. I hope you wont run out of Content to soon.
tbh I think one of Monster Hunter's biggest issues is exemplified in Lunastra and her disappearance until 5th gen in World's title updates which was atleast 10 games, other elders like Yama are still missing, Lao Shan only re appeared in 4th gen with Generations Ultimate and the Fatalis family has been in every gen except 3 but even then there was a unique Fatalis in 3 Ultimate that similarly hasn't been seen since
I think that it's not always a problem. Luna vanishing is a bit of one because they have her male counterpart in so many games without her, yet on the same hand gender exclusive hunts aren't unprecedented so I'll give it a pass but hesitantly. Otherwise I see no problem with monsters having limited endemic ranges, my only real issue is that they bring so many back if I'm being honest. Everything just seems to randomly live everywhere just with more. (I'm not really that against it, they just do it a LOT, and even then it's mostly a lore thing moreso than a gameplay complaint)
@@samfish2550 my view is less on a lore level and more on a gameplay level, especially after all these changes to the gameplay formula that would make the return of these monsters better. chasing Yama through the full tower ruins map with the wire bug or the now more advanced movement techs we have now would be fun
I’d love to see a nergi or Tobi video😶. But this was pretty fascinating. Tbh the Lion elders haven’t really been up there in my favorites, I like them and their concept. But they always felt a little too main focus especially since they’re supposed to be part of a rock paper scissors combo. Honestly I think if they do add them to wilds they should try and keep kushla and chemelos too. I’m hoping wilds takes place in the new world and I’m hoping to see more nergi!
In regards to the Kushala-Teostra rivalry I imagine Kushala is actually just as dangerous to the Teostra as vice versa. If the fire lions use airborne dander as a main offensive trump card a foe that is able to disrupt this air suspended blast would spell trouble for the manticore duo. Of course heat is Kushalas big weakness too so makes sense they have short fuses for each other
Its pretty cool detail that Teostras mane included his beard while Lunastras Chin is Bare. Also im pretty sure Teostra was inspired by Manticores. Theyre Lions with Humanlike Faces and are sometimes also depicted with bat like wings. Tho manticores allmost allways have Scorpion Stingers so mayby not. But i atleast have allways seen Teostras Face as very Humanlike.
You discussed the relationship between the fire lions and Kushala, and I wonder what their relationship would be with monsters such as Glavenus bulls. Glavenus have metallic skin like Kushala, but do seem more adapted to high ambient temperatures and will frequently heat up the tail for display/aggression Especially since both are found in the Old and New Worlds, in volcanic regions they may show fierce competition for mineral deposits when the bulls come to these regions. Unless since they are looking for different kinds of minerals and they’re showing resource partitioning What’s more interesting is their relationships in desert environments when they overlap. Since glavenus actively seek out mineral deposits, perhaps the fire lions follow Glavenus to ore deposits and either chase them away (almost like kleptoparasitism but with rock) or perform their own search in the area (like a honey guide and honey badger)
Besides looks I would also like to believe they have lion like behaviors for example the the males are maybe less active than the females usually guarding the territory from others males and monsters alike where the more aggressive female is probably the hunter
Oh god, it's Nergigante next. I was never a fan of that monster in all aspects but I'm looking forward to UHC somehow changing my perception of it as they did with other monsters, good and bad. I suppose my biggest concern is if it get its feet licked again as most of the fans do but I trust that it'll be unbiased and honest to heart opinions that directly talks about its pros and cons as a monster, a concept, a design, and an overall creature.
If anything he might give it the slamdown with how much people obsess over powerscaling the spiky bastard and how awkwardly they inject it into Iceborne's ending 😅
Yo man could you do some vids on Witcher ecology coz i realy need, for example, how Bies and Chart interact with nature and others (names are in Polish i don't know how the are in english)
I speculate that temperature has a signifigant role in the gestation and growth of infant teostra and lunastra, for two reasons. One, i theorize that the reason lunastra burns hotter and breaths blue fire, is for gestation, and aside from protection from kushala, teostra opening up manga channels during nest building is to release more heat into the area. This theory is a stretch, but with volcanoes and areas of tectonic activity are so important to elders, aside from minerals, i also believe that elders are able to absorb abient energy. Even velkana, a monster you would think would hate the heat, goes to the recess as a part of its life cycle, as well as building its nest over an open magma channel. So exposing the young to higher temperatures during gestation and infancy, might play an important role in their growth. I would also like to jump into a theory, that if dragon element is some kind of bacteria, then maybe it processes geothermal energy its nutrition, and maybe even what fuels the elemental powers that elder dragons posess. In fact, red lightning might be a result of overfeeding this bacteria, causing the energy to be expelled in excess in uncontrolled and potentialy self harmful burst. This could explain why deviljho and ebony odogaron are so hungry, they may not have the right tools or level of durability to bathe in geothermal energy like elders can, so to support their elements, they have to regularly take dense emergy packets in the form of animals and potentially keep their dragon element from eating them alive.
Hmmm..... I think that the variable reported aggression could be linked to if the locals mine for mineral/historically mined in a Teostra's territory. They DO say they let non competitors live and let live. Given their long lives and the general consensus on elder intelligence I'd say old grudges could lead to an unpredictable and varied amount of aggression.
The fact we fight Teostra a lot earlier in World and that Lunastra isn't even in Rise also hints at a higher number of males. I personally like Teostra and Lunastra very much, having met them in Freedom Unite initially and then in World (although Lunastra isn't a fun fight by any means, with her constant blanket of flames, infinite range tail whip, slow-killing inescapable ultimate and, especially, general lack of openings). They're particularly adorable when they cuddle together (as long as I'm outside of nuking range) or protect one another. I have to disagree on the musical theme however. Rise ruined it for me. In my opinion, many of the themes that were in World got butchered by Rise, but this one feels worse because it was one of my favourites (whereas Rajang and Tigrex I never particularly liked). Bazel's theme is the other great casualty, losing its WWII feel in Rise (but the monster itself was completely thrown out of its former role so there's that). Admittedly, I do like busy musical pieces I have to listen to multiple times to catch all the subtleties of. Someone on TH-cam mixed Teo's and Luna's themes together and that's my favourite version of their theme. Wilds seems to have at least some part of its story revolving around lightning so it would be a shame to not have Kirin and Namielle back. I hope the flame kitty pair will be back too, simply because I like them, except with a Lunastra that doesn't feel like a chore to fight...
@@joshuasgameplays9850 It's difficult to explain. It lacks weight, presence. More "cute funny cat" than "Emperor of Flame", to exaggerate the idea. The same is true for other themes. It matches the eastern-inspired setting of Rise, but not something as threatening as Teostra. I would possibly not notice it had I not played World so much.
I really bounced off Teostra’s Rise theme at first, also having been a big fan of the World version. It grew on me significantly over time but it can’t *quite* draw even - when the vocals come out strong in the climax, it just grates harshly on my ears for some reason. Otherwise it’s got a nice, wild feline character to it, next to World’s majestic procession for an Emperor.
considering they are not interested in eating people, but instead their gunpowder... I'm imagining some overambitious person with a gunpowder factory attempting to tame one of these guys as like, a guard animal or something lmao
Honestly for the longest time I thought Teostra and lunastra were carnivorous. It was a real shock when I read deeper into the lore and found out that they almost purely eat rocks like coal and ore. Guess the closest real-world equivalent to that kind of diet would be parrotfish species?
7:07 Made me laugh. "Lmao fuck this guy". Never knew Teostra blew out most of the Elder's Recess! Cool stuff! On the topic of cats, I wonder if you'd ever do a video on Felynes. Always wondered about the Felyne lore, why they're so ridiculously hardy and willing to fight dangerous monsters as just companions to humans, but they're so people-like it might be more of a sociology than biology video...
Teostra was really cool and while I like the ecology of Lunastra, her special attack was the bane of my existence in Iceborne. Speaking of Lunastra, what are your thoughts on the Legends of the Guild MH movie and specifically its portrayal of Lunastra?
from dander dragons to dandy dragons, future iterations did wonders for these 2... except that 1 alteration lunastra got in Iceborne where they turned off a unique interaction with a nich armor skill to make it good. it was an interesting idea to change her moveset, i'd say more monsters that are too alike in moveset need this but her 5th gen execution is up for debate. since the new world is where they go to die, the longer mane could mean older individuals. if they are more inclined to stick to their territory, this may be one of the reason they have the reputation for being more aggressive than other elders that often won't care about other creatures unless provoked. after all, they are guarding their home turf, that may also be an indication of success. other elder, that are more nomadic, don't care to defend a home if they just move on often anyway. elders are said to have intelligence like humans so it's possible they will; let some things live, kill others on sight, and use the full extent of their weaponry on greater threats. hunter being in those last 2 tiers only. lunastra may be more inclined to flee in the old world because they are more carious at a young age, the male bias may explain this. it would be interesting to know why teostra's in the swamp, it's believed that basarios is there because they are too young to handle the temperatures of the nearby volcanoes so they wait to venture there in a later stage, while still not reaching adulthood yet. so swamp basarios are younger but it's unclear for teostra. it may be a situation of being kicked out of the better territory.
Reminder of the time I tricked my friend into playing World's introduction quest for Luna ,WITHOUT telling him it was her quest lol, he died so many times ... if I can be honest I kinda wish the next game gives us Lunastra alone for a change, so far we always got them together or just Teo. Question time, do you think the fire lions endulge in meat eating too? Ores are good but they don't really give you a lot of proteins for growing your body...
Honestly this quest confuses the ever living f out of me. Who decided giving an intro quest, where you don't even defeat her, a 15 min time limit while also keeping Luna at full hp. The fact that Toaster makes an appearance and wastes time only adds insult to injury.
I have always had the unpopular opinion of loving lunastra in world she really leaned into the preperation part of the series that really diminished in world and especially rise... The idea of preparing with fire mantle, fire resistance and heat resistance just to be able to get close to luna really sold the how powerful and scary in universe elders can be As for teostra 5th gen really did a lot to improve his fight... Old gen teostra was a bit uh annoying... He had the "i run at you and deal half your health bar" move and would spam it a bit too much to the point where the fight became straight up unfun
One thing that i both love and hate about world/iceborne is the sheer visual clusterfuck. Yea it sucks for visibility and such but when i works, oh my god it works, and in my opinion it works slightly more than it doesn't. The worst being Kushala daora and best being Safi in my eyes
I am not actually saying "pspsspsppspsspss" that's my lungs frying.
“The Fire Lion’s hypernova will end the career of anyone who gets caught in it.”
My Palico: “Nah, I’d win.”
Guard-up lance: "Hold my dash juice."
That stuff about Teostra's dust causing lung damage makes me want to see a video covering the worst injuries monsters could give you as a hunter. kind of like the ecosystem services/hunting video though i'm not sure if it's more to do with the people rather than ecology, i just really like it when UHC brings up the monster human relationships topics.
Omg that could be really fun, a look into the little issues hunters would face that the games don't have the time or ability to show.
Blastblight would genuinely be one of the scariest blights in the MH universe.
He gets a cross over with goji center for a worst ways to die vid
Alright, consider all that.
And remember Alatreon was canonically stated to share a lot of other Elders power alongside elemental instability. Imagine surviving the microwave that is Escaton Judgement.
That CAN'T ever be healthy for you.
@@jameswilliams2075 I was just thinking of a Goji Center animation but it’s just a radobaan turning a hunter into road kill
Teo is often portrayed as lazy and Espinas sleeps around most of the time. New Lore piece revealed guys, Kushala hates procrastinators
Well, i hate kushala, too.
@@davidmingle5910 what you gonna do about it? put off hunting kushala to the next week?
No hunt them to extinction@@DissedRedEngie
@@borzoilover4156 do that tomorrow
Inside you there are two elders. one snores like honk shoo. one snores like honk mimimimimi. Kushala hates both of them
Dander allergies are the least of our worries here
*proceeds to sneeze head off as im burned alive* (probably the worst why to go)
@@Shodanlu05 *Getting swallowed by Narkarkos and digested alive*
@@Shodanlu05 *sneezes once* becomes Risen Toaster
@@Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. yeah but you see I’d probably be allergic to teo and Luna so in my personal opinion it’s one of the worst ways to go
@@Shodanlu05 Fair.
"The darker a lions mane, the better the specimen." Cue smug Scar.
I still have the nightmares of World Lunastra’s the floor is lava flames.
The floor is always lava.
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Hearing uhc say my name at the end gave me an unhealthy amount of dopamine
I know it feels really gratifying.
Strongly agree
Kushala- teostra note: kushala wind current would disturb the lion's dander quite a bit
If i remember correctly, there's a whirlwind animation in world with the dust mixed in it and it looks neat.
That's with Luna's fire right?
teostra's aura used to be disabled by poison all 3 counter eachother to an extent.
chameleos, kushala, teostra.
Yeah. But that worked with kushala as well
@@Freeseraphim yes which was interesting
The dander has always been one of my favorite parts of these two as I find it a genius concept on top of being not even that hard to believe (given what can happen in mines) so I'm glad to see them done justice here. The part about how much more lethal and damaging Teostra's dust explosions are compared to any other monster in particular was really nice, as it properly shows why the two specifically are so feared as elder dragons when so many monsters these days just have explosions tossed onto them to be another thing they can do. There's a scene in one of the mangas where a local population worshipped an abnormally large and brutish Brachydios they called "Godslayer", and the story of it ends with a Teostra coming down and killing it easily. Given the sheer devastation it's unique blasts could cause on the lungs and other internal organs it's completely unsurprising.
They don't give gold to second place.
Which one I wanna see that
Ok but that idea about a teostra deviant based off the Tsavo maneaters would be fucking cool. Making it like primordial malzeno, with adjustments to the base dragon's proportions, would work well with this idea, with a lither and starved-looking teostra. They would obviously need a quest with a pair of them as well, to make the reference even closer.
Edit: oh boy next episode is about "big ugly," that'll be neat
Lunastra was a surprise for me since it's not often a monster properly weaponizes heat and fire combined. I know people hate her, but she's still one of few monsters im prompted to be cautious about which i enjoy such challenges
I would say that my particular dislike of her is only in regards to her supernova in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne. I like her as a monster and concept, and was sad when they pretty much got rid of her for so many games.
How sneezing with a sinus infection feels like: *super nova*
Paleontology in the Monster Hunter world must suck ass as both a profession & a science. I imagine that it must be very disheartening to spend months carefully excavating the bones of long extinct creatures only for some big-chinned dinosaur to either crush them with said jaws to eat them or stick them to it's body & roll away, more than likely destroying the fragile bones. Or some fire lion moving into a potential fossil site and just casually destroying anywhere from a few to dozens or hundreds of fossils with a single click of it's jaws because it wanted make a nest.
Teostra being found in the gen 2 swamp I think are primarily there for Sootstone ore which can be found in the caves by the giant crystal clusters. I recall it being said in Hunting Life that the area is rich in it. Sootstone is described as being crucial raw component in making their cannon ammunition and is likely now also used for other explosive artillery weapons.
Sootstone probably contains a lot of either sulphur, nitrates or phosphorus. These minerals are possibly like salt for the fire ED pair in order to make their dander and help fuel their auras and attacks. And now that humans have developed gunpowder weapons it makes the competition for it so much fiercer between humans and the duo. It also doesn't help them much that something as large and powerful as Gogmazios is also competing for it.
Teo and Lunastra raiding towns and forts for their gunpowder stores are maybe really desperate individuals.
can't wait for the 2 hour magnamalo rant video
*24 hour
Ah yes, nothing like getting melted by Lunastra's flames as you think you are damaging her...
So, I started with Rise. As a total newbie, yeah, I struggled a bit in the early game, but eventually I got going and just could not be stopped. Few monsters could get me to fail a quest, and many couldn't cart me twice.
And then Teostra carted me eight times in a row.
Yeah, he triple carted me twice and was en route to do so again when a lucky turf war turned the tides in my favor by allowing me to recover just enough to defeat him.
From that moment on Teostra became, and still is, my favorite monster in franchise. And it also helps that his Rise theme is just perfect.
There’s just something about that first real wall monster! Reminds me of my experience with Bazelgeuse in World, who remains my best boy. Teostra in the same game was when my ears finally woke up, and he was the first time I hunted a monster specifically to hear its music again. 😌
Nice to see the both of them can hold off the "Elder Dragon Hunter" Nergigante.
Teostra is one of my personal favorites when it comes to Elder Dragons, both as a fight and as a concept. While I would love to see more of a focus on new creatures in Wilds, I really hope Teo/Luna make a return because the idea of the fight sparking a county wide firestorm sounds astronomically badass.
We gonna be consuming gunpowder with this one.
💥
The extinction dragon, it's going to have its spiky spotlight in the next episode. A pretty solid an informative video as always.
I prefer a painfully difficult fight over a copy-paste. At least Lunastra's memorable now.
Long Live the Queen !
I really dig you referencing the lions of Tsavo. You're so cool for that. Great video, I'm listening to this while I do my janitor work.
Namiel would be awsome in Wilds! Imagine the fight shifting from dry desert to thunderstorm to flood and back to dry again. It probably wouldn't go down that way, but for now everything is game lol
I really am wanting a Chameleos video now. I’d love to see how you explain his invisibility. He’s also just one of my favorites because he’s goofy, but strong too.
Man I love Teostra's design so much.
Also yay Nergis next, I really hope that wont be a rant video he's practically my favorite elder cause he feels kinda primordial looking. Plus he's strong and preys on elders but he's not invincible.
imagine if in wilds a tornado is capable of picking up Teostra's dander and light on fire, creating a firenado. it could be a byproduct of a turf war between Kushala and Teostra/Lunastra.
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Hey dude
Just gotta say
I’ve recently been binge rewatching your videos while at work and you’ve reinvigorated my live for this series so much i decided to reinstall World and do a replay. Thank you for your studious work, its an inspiration
Thank you for the awesome analysis as always
And yo the Teostra video coming out the same day JJK chapter 259 drops in which Sukuna uses a dust explosion is CRAZY
I was rewatching this video when I made a connection that made me look at a character in a new light.
The Huntsman is often seen having not much stamina, having to fight in short bursts and often having to sit in meetings with the Research Commission. Now this could be due to his age, but most other First Fleet members aren't slowed down by their age so much so Huntsman would have to be significantly older than the rest of the First Fleet including the grizzled and grey Commander. However there could be another reason.
As someone who has a loved one with COPD, not being able to properly breathe can significantly reduce one's strength and stamina to the point that they can have trouble holding things or standing for extended periods. The Huntsman also appears to have a history with Teostra, though I can't recall if it is the same Teostra as the one from the quest or the species in general. So it is possible he took a blast from Teostra in the past and though he survived it significantly damaged his lungs which has crippled him but a true master never rests, especially on the Research Commission. He still has much wisdom to impart on newer hunters and even steps in himself when needed though as seen by his fight with Velkhana sometimes his limits can't be pushed past.
It's been a while since he posted an Elder Dragon
Despite what other people thought of it I really liked the fact that it was lunastra that killed the hunters in the animated Netflix special.
It's simply made sense considering the amount of dangerous surrounding that monster and her reputation
Great video and you brought up some amazing points on their psychology, and ideas for Wilds. Lastly I can't wait for the Nergigante video as he is one of my favorite monsters and see your take on his ecology.
I always wondered about why the fire lions had wings--among their many other strange physiological adaptations. I always figured it was high fantasy references as an elder dragon thing. So imagine my surprise when you pointed out the classical Persian griffon reference!
huh, today I learned boar shields are a thing. I feel like you could make a cool boar monster with that thing in mind.
You could. But we only have Bullfango
@@Planag7 and Bulldrome?
And poogie.
I honestly cannot wait for the nergigante video, it’s going to be so worth the wait.
Fantastic as always!
YIPPIEEEEE MY FAVORITE ELDERS!!! Been so hyped for this one 🔥🔥🔥
I like the Lunastra Because that Elder Dragon is truly menacing and powerful when burning everything in its path
Teostra and Lunastra were my favorite fights in unite, with Lunas gear is amazing and both having unique weapons. Risen Teostra overall is one of favorite hunts along with its gear being amazing.
"It's said to be aggressive by hunters"
Apart from assaulting out of fear at the start, it could be generational trauma... at least as to why especially Old World monsters appeared to just try to kill on sight regardless of your intentions nearby
13:58 (Godzilla minus one spoilers) also the refraction point you made her reminded me of the method they used to try and kill godzilla in minus one. Where they basically tried to use atmospheric pressure changes by making him sink and then rise extremely fast and it def was destructive. Makes me think the only real threat/predator to their pair bond may be an Akantor
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you posted this on my birthday?! wow... i wasn't expecting that.
the forgotten Toa Tesukatora of frontier will never make it on lists like these
Also I wouldnt mind a Intersex Teo/Lunastra who circles between Blue Fire, Heat, Blast, and normal Fire Mode.
Interesting is, Lunastra and Teostra, mainly Lunastra are probably based on a old Chinese Legend, where a Moon Goddess is guarded by two flying Lions.
Lunastra is a female flying Lion whit a Moon Theme. And her Armor might be potencially Chinese Inspired, but I am more speculating there. Sounds like a save bet.
Monster Hunter has like 229 Monster, many of them Recolors, or colosely related. I hope you wont run out of Content to soon.
We need more lion monsters
Yes! I've been waiting for a new video. Great work!
Like Teostra, I too want my own Kushala-Free space 😢
Ooo, Fire kitty’s
Never clicked on a video THIS fast!!
tbh I think one of Monster Hunter's biggest issues is exemplified in Lunastra and her disappearance until 5th gen in World's title updates which was atleast 10 games, other elders like Yama are still missing, Lao Shan only re appeared in 4th gen with Generations Ultimate and the Fatalis family has been in every gen except 3 but even then there was a unique Fatalis in 3 Ultimate that similarly hasn't been seen since
If only she had stayed where ever she was.
I think that it's not always a problem. Luna vanishing is a bit of one because they have her male counterpart in so many games without her, yet on the same hand gender exclusive hunts aren't unprecedented so I'll give it a pass but hesitantly.
Otherwise I see no problem with monsters having limited endemic ranges, my only real issue is that they bring so many back if I'm being honest. Everything just seems to randomly live everywhere just with more.
(I'm not really that against it, they just do it a LOT, and even then it's mostly a lore thing moreso than a gameplay complaint)
@@samfish2550 my view is less on a lore level and more on a gameplay level, especially after all these changes to the gameplay formula that would make the return of these monsters better. chasing Yama through the full tower ruins map with the wire bug or the now more advanced movement techs we have now would be fun
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I’d love to see a nergi or Tobi video😶. But this was pretty fascinating. Tbh the Lion elders haven’t really been up there in my favorites, I like them and their concept. But they always felt a little too main focus especially since they’re supposed to be part of a rock paper scissors combo. Honestly I think if they do add them to wilds they should try and keep kushla and chemelos too. I’m hoping wilds takes place in the new world and I’m hoping to see more nergi!
In regards to the Kushala-Teostra rivalry I imagine Kushala is actually just as dangerous to the Teostra as vice versa. If the fire lions use airborne dander as a main offensive trump card a foe that is able to disrupt this air suspended blast would spell trouble for the manticore duo. Of course heat is Kushalas big weakness too so makes sense they have short fuses for each other
Its pretty cool detail that Teostras mane included his beard while Lunastras Chin is Bare.
Also im pretty sure Teostra was inspired by Manticores. Theyre Lions with Humanlike Faces and are sometimes also depicted with bat like wings. Tho manticores allmost allways have Scorpion Stingers so mayby not. But i atleast have allways seen Teostras Face as very Humanlike.
I honestly didn't know they were based off old griffons, I had figured they were manticores
I know it's not a creature with a lot of evidence but I'd love to see you examine Akantor and Ukanlos. Actual apex among apex predators.
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Toaster is however THE MOST frustrating elder dragon to me. 😅
You discussed the relationship between the fire lions and Kushala, and I wonder what their relationship would be with monsters such as Glavenus bulls.
Glavenus have metallic skin like Kushala, but do seem more adapted to high ambient temperatures and will frequently heat up the tail for display/aggression
Especially since both are found in the Old and New Worlds, in volcanic regions they may show fierce competition for mineral deposits when the bulls come to these regions. Unless since they are looking for different kinds of minerals and they’re showing resource partitioning
What’s more interesting is their relationships in desert environments when they overlap. Since glavenus actively seek out mineral deposits, perhaps the fire lions follow Glavenus to ore deposits and either chase them away (almost like kleptoparasitism but with rock) or perform their own search in the area (like a honey guide and honey badger)
Besides looks I would also like to believe they have lion like behaviors for example the the males are maybe less active than the females usually guarding the territory from others males and monsters alike where the more aggressive female is probably the hunter
Teostra has the best theme as well
Awesome video, man!
Oh god, it's Nergigante next. I was never a fan of that monster in all aspects but I'm looking forward to UHC somehow changing my perception of it as they did with other monsters, good and bad.
I suppose my biggest concern is if it get its feet licked again as most of the fans do but I trust that it'll be unbiased and honest to heart opinions that directly talks about its pros and cons as a monster, a concept, a design, and an overall creature.
If anything he might give it the slamdown with how much people obsess over powerscaling the spiky bastard and how awkwardly they inject it into Iceborne's ending 😅
Hell yeah
Yo man could you do some vids on Witcher ecology coz i realy need, for example, how Bies and Chart interact with nature and others (names are in Polish i don't know how the are in english)
I speculate that temperature has a signifigant role in the gestation and growth of infant teostra and lunastra, for two reasons. One, i theorize that the reason lunastra burns hotter and breaths blue fire, is for gestation, and aside from protection from kushala, teostra opening up manga channels during nest building is to release more heat into the area. This theory is a stretch, but with volcanoes and areas of tectonic activity are so important to elders, aside from minerals, i also believe that elders are able to absorb abient energy. Even velkana, a monster you would think would hate the heat, goes to the recess as a part of its life cycle, as well as building its nest over an open magma channel. So exposing the young to higher temperatures during gestation and infancy, might play an important role in their growth. I would also like to jump into a theory, that if dragon element is some kind of bacteria, then maybe it processes geothermal energy its nutrition, and maybe even what fuels the elemental powers that elder dragons posess. In fact, red lightning might be a result of overfeeding this bacteria, causing the energy to be expelled in excess in uncontrolled and potentialy self harmful burst. This could explain why deviljho and ebony odogaron are so hungry, they may not have the right tools or level of durability to bathe in geothermal energy like elders can, so to support their elements, they have to regularly take dense emergy packets in the form of animals and potentially keep their dragon element from eating them alive.
I think it's rather amusing that there's a Monster Hunter monster that attacks using its dandruff.
Well porcupine’s quills are super hair and tarantula’s hair also is used as weapons !
Hmmm..... I think that the variable reported aggression could be linked to if the locals mine for mineral/historically mined in a Teostra's territory.
They DO say they let non competitors live and let live. Given their long lives and the general consensus on elder intelligence I'd say old grudges could lead to an unpredictable and varied amount of aggression.
I too should like to curate myself a Kushala free area.
Oh boy, Nergigante coming next!
He’s MH equivalent to Monsterverse Godzilla!
I wonder if I'd be allergic to them
The fact we fight Teostra a lot earlier in World and that Lunastra isn't even in Rise also hints at a higher number of males.
I personally like Teostra and Lunastra very much, having met them in Freedom Unite initially and then in World (although Lunastra isn't a fun fight by any means, with her constant blanket of flames, infinite range tail whip, slow-killing inescapable ultimate and, especially, general lack of openings). They're particularly adorable when they cuddle together (as long as I'm outside of nuking range) or protect one another.
I have to disagree on the musical theme however. Rise ruined it for me. In my opinion, many of the themes that were in World got butchered by Rise, but this one feels worse because it was one of my favourites (whereas Rajang and Tigrex I never particularly liked). Bazel's theme is the other great casualty, losing its WWII feel in Rise (but the monster itself was completely thrown out of its former role so there's that).
Admittedly, I do like busy musical pieces I have to listen to multiple times to catch all the subtleties of. Someone on TH-cam mixed Teo's and Luna's themes together and that's my favourite version of their theme.
Wilds seems to have at least some part of its story revolving around lightning so it would be a shame to not have Kirin and Namielle back. I hope the flame kitty pair will be back too, simply because I like them, except with a Lunastra that doesn't feel like a chore to fight...
What exactly do you now like about the Rise version?
@@joshuasgameplays9850 It's difficult to explain. It lacks weight, presence. More "cute funny cat" than "Emperor of Flame", to exaggerate the idea. The same is true for other themes. It matches the eastern-inspired setting of Rise, but not something as threatening as Teostra. I would possibly not notice it had I not played World so much.
I really bounced off Teostra’s Rise theme at first, also having been a big fan of the World version. It grew on me significantly over time but it can’t *quite* draw even - when the vocals come out strong in the climax, it just grates harshly on my ears for some reason. Otherwise it’s got a nice, wild feline character to it, next to World’s majestic procession for an Emperor.
considering they are not interested in eating people, but instead their gunpowder... I'm imagining some overambitious person with a gunpowder factory attempting to tame one of these guys as like, a guard animal or something lmao
My favorite monster in all of monster hunter
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Honestly for the longest time I thought Teostra and lunastra were carnivorous. It was a real shock when I read deeper into the lore and found out that they almost purely eat rocks like coal and ore. Guess the closest real-world equivalent to that kind of diet would be parrotfish species?
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im still curious about their flame auras i wonder why they have it..
Straight into war crimes with this one
7:07 Made me laugh. "Lmao fuck this guy". Never knew Teostra blew out most of the Elder's Recess! Cool stuff! On the topic of cats, I wonder if you'd ever do a video on Felynes. Always wondered about the Felyne lore, why they're so ridiculously hardy and willing to fight dangerous monsters as just companions to humans, but they're so people-like it might be more of a sociology than biology video...
YES
Lunastra mauling a Teostra is their equivalent of "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!!!!"
If they do make a black maned teostra they have to make the ecology cutscene a "long live the king" reference with the base variant. #Blackfireteostra
Teostra was really cool and while I like the ecology of Lunastra, her special attack was the bane of my existence in Iceborne. Speaking of Lunastra, what are your thoughts on the Legends of the Guild MH movie and specifically its portrayal of Lunastra?
Thanks.
from dander dragons to dandy dragons, future iterations did wonders for these 2... except that 1 alteration lunastra got in Iceborne where they turned off a unique interaction with a nich armor skill to make it good. it was an interesting idea to change her moveset, i'd say more monsters that are too alike in moveset need this but her 5th gen execution is up for debate.
since the new world is where they go to die, the longer mane could mean older individuals.
if they are more inclined to stick to their territory, this may be one of the reason they have the reputation for being more aggressive than other elders that often won't care about other creatures unless provoked. after all, they are guarding their home turf, that may also be an indication of success. other elder, that are more nomadic, don't care to defend a home if they just move on often anyway. elders are said to have intelligence like humans so it's possible they will; let some things live, kill others on sight, and use the full extent of their weaponry on greater threats. hunter being in those last 2 tiers only. lunastra may be more inclined to flee in the old world because they are more carious at a young age, the male bias may explain this.
it would be interesting to know why teostra's in the swamp, it's believed that basarios is there because they are too young to handle the temperatures of the nearby volcanoes so they wait to venture there in a later stage, while still not reaching adulthood yet. so swamp basarios are younger but it's unclear for teostra. it may be a situation of being kicked out of the better territory.
Reminder of the time I tricked my friend into playing World's introduction quest for Luna ,WITHOUT telling him it was her quest lol, he died so many times ...
if I can be honest I kinda wish the next game gives us Lunastra alone for a change, so far we always got them together or just Teo.
Question time, do you think the fire lions endulge in meat eating too? Ores are good but they don't really give you a lot of proteins for growing your body...
Honestly this quest confuses the ever living f out of me. Who decided giving an intro quest, where you don't even defeat her, a 15 min time limit while also keeping Luna at full hp.
The fact that Toaster makes an appearance and wastes time only adds insult to injury.
I wondered why teostra attacked small monsters. I guess it was it's territory but kinda confused me
Do you have any thoughts on Toa tesukatora and would you like to see them appear in wilds?
I have always had the unpopular opinion of loving lunastra in world she really leaned into the preperation part of the series that really diminished in world and especially rise... The idea of preparing with fire mantle, fire resistance and heat resistance just to be able to get close to luna really sold the how powerful and scary in universe elders can be
As for teostra 5th gen really did a lot to improve his fight... Old gen teostra was a bit uh annoying... He had the "i run at you and deal half your health bar" move and would spam it a bit too much to the point where the fight became straight up unfun
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One thing that i both love and hate about world/iceborne is the sheer visual clusterfuck. Yea it sucks for visibility and such but when i works, oh my god it works, and in my opinion it works slightly more than it doesn't. The worst being Kushala daora and best being Safi in my eyes
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Teostra and lunastra could use some skin moisturizer.
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Would you describe these monsters’ aesthetics as manti-core?