FlutterFlow VS Bubble 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Which is the best no-code app builder for you in 2024?
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bubble.io/
00:06 FlutterFlow overview
00:19 Bubble overview
00:30 Key features of FlutterFlow
02:52 Key features of Bubble
04:31 FlutterFlow pricing
07:37 Bubble pricing
10:35 My pick
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Bubble is for no-coders, FF is for coders with at least 2-3 years knowledge of coding. If anyone think FF is easy well you probably building very basic apps, just saying ;)
Thanks for your comment! I think it really depends on your starting point if you know basic programming and database principles.
I teach students in bootcamp with minimal experience and they are using a MVP with api integration an application that they are using daily for their business.
Yup it depends what you clarify as basic.
Feel free add more details of what you classify as a basic app.
Super helpful breakdown, thanks Doc!
No problem!
sir, thanks so Much for Very important Tutorials,
i have a Request if you'll like,
i need comparison btn Buildship and Fastgen
No problem! OK thanks for request and I'll what I can do. 👀👀👀
@@docwilliams Thanks So Much ♥️
No problem! Glad to help and thanks for the support!
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🎉 Thanks! Glad you’re here in the community! Let me know if you have any questions.
Yeah I agree with you about bubble there unfortunately heading down the shitification road. It's sad it always happens you know and it's because of the VC funding. I noticed a change at the last well bubble meet up. And I pleaded with them to keep the hobbyist level were for free we can run a nap even if it's just a minimal use case. But now they seem to have given up on the hobbyist and are focusing on businesses because businesses pay and hobbyists just seem to take up resources. Like so many businesses I think they've forgotten their roots. But you know they're the leader in the space now so I guess they don't care anymore. I just used to love the time when I could just play with an idea and experiment with it without feeling a lot of financial pressure. Maybe flutter flow is that new tool. Cuz I get ideas all the time and I don't want to have to pay 36 a month just to be able to send them to my friends test out. And after using bubble for almost 5 years I have to say that it's a pretty steep learning curve to get a release ready app out there. It's kind of deceiving when they say I'll build Airbnb and 10 minutes or whatever that's not true and there are performance issues you pretty much have to be a developer or have the mentality of a developer to make the apps even though there's no coding.
Thanks for the comment!
Yup these things happen with these companies.
FlutterFlow might be the answer but also you might want to look at Toddle since they announced they are going the open source route.
Yeah I was looking for an alternative to bubble as I'm about to double down in a couple apps and need to decide which platform to really invest in.
Sounds good! Glad you stopped by
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Hey Doc thanks for your video! I am a newbie in the no code world, don't know how to code, i want to change careers and become a no code developer, which tool would you recommend for my case, FF or Bubble?
Glad that you are here! That's a great question! This depends on what you want to learn how to build. Bubble you could build about 95% of most requested applications but you will have to stay in the bubble ecosystem.
FF if I was focused on mainly mobile applications, you want the best mobile experience and you want to add some custom code and scale into code I would look into FF.
It also depends on the workflow you would prefer.
So that's a long response but it depends lol.
I would take the time and build a project using both platforms and re-evaluate what platform and features you like.
Keep me posted and let me know if you have more questions!
ah man, I think you like flutter flow better. I'm going with flutter flow. lol. You have a course or recommend a course to go from a to z in a few months??
Hey great question! I do have one my courses on No Code MBA if you're interested here- www.nocode.mba/?via=doc
Let me know if you have any more questions take care!
Hey Doc, old subscriber here. I am trying to build a website that is similar to G2 but focuses on firms like accounting and law firms. For the MVP which would you recommend? Or is there another app you would recommend?
Hey great to see you here! In general I would go with bubble for this project.
Depends your skill level and overall time you want to spend on the project I would look at Softr (www.softr.io/?via=doc) for a V1.0 and if you need to have more functionality I would then go with bubble.
Hope that helps and keep me posted!
I need to create a multi-seller market, where I can adapt the application to the web, which one do you recommend? Do you know of a place where I can get a tutorial for this, sorry if my translation is bad.
Great question! I can understand not a problem at all.
I would look at FlutterFlow but I would look at CS-Cart.
Hi Doc, I'm looking to build a web app with a simple audio player (for musical meditations). Which tool would you suggest here?
@@JuliaReibelt either one but I
Would probably go with FlutterFlow
Which is better for an e commerce app
Flutter flow vs bubble
I would prob go with FlutterFlow
Hello Doc, which platform would you recommend for a community course platform? Users should be able to register for free and online see a handful of the course content. They should be able to chat privately and post in the group. The paid version should include all content with recurring payments. It should be accessible on Web and as an mobile app as well. What would you recommend for that scenario?
I would prob go with Heartbeat- www.heartbeat.chat/?via=doc
Hope that helps take care!
Keep me posted on your progression.
great videos! would you recommend bubble or flutterflow for a social media app with 10,000 users?
Depends on the exact functionality of the social media platform but in general FlutterFlow
Hey Doc, thank you for your insights! I'm aiming to create a learning experience that is inspired by the model used by Duolingo. This involves incorporating gamification elements into the learning process to make it more engaging and enjoyable for the user. I have no coding background whatsoever. Which no-code app do you recommend? FF or Bubble, or something else?
Love it! I would probably go with FF
I would really look at creating a MVP to try it out
Let me know if you have more questions
hey, Doc, I tend to build a medical platform with community, online shopping, and customer management. Which one should I use?
I would prob go with FlutterFlow
im trying to build a custom Chatgpt Bot App with a customized interface. I started with flutterflow and dont get any further at the moment. I am a complete beginner. Started with a template which I already styled and now I dont understand how can I connect different sites to each other. I dont know if I should stick with flutterflow or is bubble a better option for this kind of projects? I think flutterflow is better but I'm just stuck at the moment..looking for a solution.
Great question! OK so first I would start with your current problem. What are you currently stuck on? What is your main goal with your user? Describe your idea of a customized interface.
In general, I've been using Chatbase with clients and students www.chatbase.co/?via=doc-williams
But it depends on your use case.
Feel free to ask more questions!
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES. Been searching for these answers for hours
😃 no problem! Glad to help!
Doc - thanks for the great info. Would really like to get your opinion on this: I'm looking to develop a SaaS app for dance studios to manage registration, class sign-ups, rosters, email lists, payments, and scheduling. Including instructor profiles, student tracking, etc... I have no "no code" experience, but I am a data analyst by trade and have some basic programming principles. Trying to decide which of these two tools will be better in the long term.
So far what I have seen, I like the FF interface, but bubble feels more robust.
Great question! Really depends on the workflow you need.
For what you want to do both options are viable. For what you're looking for both platforms have the functionality you detailed.
@@docwilliams thanks for the reply! new subscriber here.
Thanks Doc. Which platform, would you use to build AI chatbot products for websites.?
No problem! Great question. I would prob go with Chatbase www.chatbase.co/?via=doc-williams (affiliate link to support the channel).
Which platform would you recommend for a CRM use case? Platform would need to connect with other systems via api daily. Inbound leads send a lot of emails etc. thoughts ?
Great question! I could see using either one this comes down to if you're looking to use this for you and your team or if you're looking to scale this for as a micro saas.
In general you could us both I would prob lean towards flutterflow mainly because I enjoy how easy the UI/UX components can be used in FF but this comes down to preference and workflow.
Have you tried using either platform yet?
Thanks. What do you recommend for HR processing and payroll system, because it can use both Web and mobile apps? Should I use bubble or flutterflow.
Great question! In that case I might lean more towards bubble.
Both platforms could handle it but in this case I feel bubble might be the best option.
There are a few other factors including functionality and design that would make me think about about FlutterFlow or even weweb as well but in general bubble would prob be my choice on that one.
Hope that helps and feel free to add more details on your use case.
Thanks!
I'm trying to build an on-demand food delivery service and I like flutterflow because I can use supabase for my app. I don't like being tied down to any deals as it kills competition and make the consumer lose their free will too. This video just reinforced my mindset.
Ps. I tried buying a template from Bubble initially it sounded easy too, but going further through the FAQs I realized there was so much more to do unlike how straightforward it was with Flutterflow and how easy it was for me to build the app UI myself with the first training. That led me to this comparison video. Thanks again.
Nice! Glad to help and hope your on-demand food delivery service goes well! Keep me posted on your progress!
If people use Supabase, what will be Google's reason to develop Flutter?
@@Pawnlust Flutter is open-source UI software development kit created by Google.
Supabase is a firebase alternative for the backend development. Flutter is still going to be supported for the UI component of the application.
@@docwilliams I understand. I’m talking about the economics of it for them. How do they justify this investment long-term? Flutter needs Google still. The ecosystem is too small to sustain itself if the plug is pulled.
So with both FlutterFlow and Bubble we can not publish the app using the Free plan, right?
@@siham432 correct. You can make it a PWA (progressive web application) and have to them save to their home screen to interact like a regular app but to have available in the play store you need a paid plan. For our students and clients we recommend PWA first and then transitioning to submitting to the app store.
For more details on ff pricing and features check out this page- flutterflow.io/pricing
@@docwilliams Can you make a tutorial on how to do that? Or how to make PWA with FlutterFlow if possible?
Hi Doc, Which one of these do you recommend I want a Customer portal for Multiple organisations, with teams of users with limited end user visibility to their data as well as an additional pay section for clinical scripts referrals
Hey great question! Depends on your skill level but I would go with FlutterFlow
@@docwilliams Thanks Doc ill have a go at FF
I am looking to build a marketplace app where a buyer can call a seller in the app. The seller, who is walking on the street unprepared with their mobile phone locked, is notified of the incoming call, can pick up the phone from their pocket, unlock the phone, accept the call, and immediately start a video call with the buyer. Should I use FlutterFlow or Bubble? Which plugin for the video call should I use? Thanks!
In general I would go with FF.
Those features you’re looking to create will take a lot of custom work so it depends on your current skill level. How familiar are you with adding custom code or APIs?
@@docwilliams Thanks for your reply! I am familiar with general programming, but not particularly with APIs. Which plugin should I choose? Thanks!
@@docwilliams Also, please could you explain why you would go with FF?
I think Bubble more stronger than FF, the template and also very fast live preview, the workflow is more intuitive than FF, add to this built in database, Bubble also build native mobile app using responsive features and external plugin name BDK native, also little bug fix, about FF is low code need experience in flutter expression to use it by developer, slow in live preview, a lot of bug fixes.
Thanks for your comment! Yes I think bubble def is powerful and depending on the project I def think it could be a good fit.
FF def is low code and is based on specific workflows so it can be very different from bubble for sure.
@@docwilliams
add to this advantage the workflow power by AI, when you think on one target you can make it and it is working, this help you develop in short time compared to the other Nocode, i want explain it like programming languages C is more defficult than python, same FF is more difficult than bubble in workflow.
You are missing a big point, with FF you can do the initial work and the export the code and you don't pay anymore for the service. I believe you cannot do the same with bubble.
You are forced to pay for it forever
Bubble raised $100M.[12] Bubble was named one of Fast Company's Most Innovative Companies of 2021., Web traffic to Bubble's websites have increased at a compounded growth rate greater than 50% from 2017 to 2021 ( Wikipedia )
Thanks for the comment and details!
What would you recommend for a local mobile food delivery app?
Great question! Depends on the exact functionality you need but I see a lot of businesses use Adalo and for advance features they use FlutterFlow.
Again depends on your needs. Hope that helps take care!
How about integrating with Airtable? Thx!
Great question! Both do integrate with airtable.
What do you recomend to build a polls/surveys app? Thanks for the video!
Depending on if you're going to use a white-labeled platform I would use getmetasurvey.com/
Depending on the type of survey you need I would prob go with FlutterFlow if mobile first. bubble is a kid option as well if you need custom functionality for a web app.
@@docwilliamsthanks for the reply
enterprise scale sale funnel for video?
Hey thanks for your comment. Could you give me more detail on your question?
Are trying to make your own platform to offer clients that will be a sales funnel they can use in their business and have videos throughout the different pages? For example a series of pages you'll get in a drip sequence like clickfunnels etc?
Thanks for reading the websites for me
No problem! Here to help! Let me know what your trying to build
Are you a bot or something?
Umm I’m even sure what even by that? If you think I’m a bot with 400+ videos over the last few years not sure this is the right channel for you.
I thought maybe a bot for the comments. Since you're responding very actively and hearting everything...
@@arthurk7608gotcha nope. I’m pretty active responding to all my comments on my videos. Take care!
Thank You. 🙏 Boss
No problem 👍
Hi Doc. Thank you for your insight on this.
I've tried bubble but had to move away from the platform, as it does not have any hosting in EU and it does not native mobile app building features without external services that can make it a PWA (At least when I tried using it).
I am trying to build an app that handles a ton of personal information so it needs to be GDPR compliant inside the EU (No US hosting etc.). The outlook for shared hosting in EU was too far in the future for me to wait.
Still looking into FF/Supabase combo for App building, but haven't decided yet.
No problem and thanks for your comment!
Yeah FF might be a good solution for you and with security supabase or firestore could have the secuirty you need.
Keep me posted on your progress!