@@UndineAlmani True. Addictive behaviour is usually a symptom of some other underlying need. Most people just find something "less harmful" (like snacking or social media) to get addicted to, rather than fix the underlying problem.
Thanks for sharing your insight on the topic. That is how everyone should approach media usage in general. It is so easy getting stuck binge watching a show or convincing yourself that you are productive because you spent the last 3 hours watching videos on a topic you are interested in. Personally I try to limit the number of videos I watch in a row so that I don't fall into the recommendation loop (with varying degree of success).
Undine - thank you so much. I am going to try your suggestion this year. I went through a rough divorce last year, and, begrudgingly, picked up smoking afterwards. I would like to quit, but the idea of completely stopping honestly kinda sucks. I am going to try stopping down to a few cigarettes a year. Maybe 2 a month or something at first.
I filmed a video about my whole process of quitting, I just have to edit it. But it's going up eventually. Wish you all the best. You can do this. I know how much a breakup hurts, and it'll probably take some time to become fully yourself again. But it is possible, and it usually ends in feeling more independent and like you can manage your life once you succeed. I always felt like smoking was just making me an addict and taking away my sense of control in this context. But by saying "I decide when I smoke", not some doctor, not the cigarettes, that helped me regain control. I'm sure it's a stupid mind game but it worked for 7 years as of today.
I'm with you on making lists of content to watch and things to buy. Given a moment, the BS will be discarded and drop away leaving time and resources for other things that may be more beneficial. We have too many choices sometimes, and lists help us survive abundance.
Greetings from the Netherlands, great video! I've been wanting to do so much myself, but I've been distracting myself with so much unneeded stuff that I just don't get to do what I've been wanting to work on. Frustrating, but at the end of the day it all comes back to the stuff you tell yourself. "Just one more video." "Oh, after this one I'll be productive." "Okay now for real..."
Completely feel that. Watch @struthless ❤️❤️❤️ 10/10 coolest channel on that kind of stuff. Productivity, but not in that weird "life coach, need to optimize all your shit 24/7 until your the Hulk and Richard P. Feynman in one person" style but actually helpful 👍🏻
I appreciate the thoughts and insight. Ive personally tried to push for my phone being nothing more than a tool. Frequently i find myself in situation where ill be out to dinner and will see so many people sitting around on their phone while with other people and it bugs me. The dopamine drip from short form content is real. I quickly began seeing myself falling prey to it and had to uninstall apps like tiktok. Its scary how it can lock down your life and kick people into an echo chamber.
Agree. I see that too and it's so sad. Especially on the bus or bus stop etc. People used to read or if not talk to at least look at each other... we are more antisocial than ever now thanks to "social media". I use a technique from meditation called "noting". You register when you have an emotion or a thought. And instead of hovering over it and giving into feeling or thinking, you just note "A feeling." or "A thought." and kinda put it into a box. That is used in addiction therapy as well. Aka if you feel like "Now I want to look at my phone." you just take notice but don't do it. Some people also like to put a dash on a piece of paper and register how often they think of the substance / thing they want but isn't healthy for them. I do that with my phone, games, other distracting behavior etc.
Good video. I don't use smartphones, just a flip phone and I keep it in a different room than the one I sleep in, only check it a few times a day for messages/calls. I use my computer (intentionally) for online needs--communicating with others I know, educating myself on various things and how to do projects I'm interested in, and to share or submit my writing and similar tasks for others to potentially pay me. If there is no time-sensitive need to watch my email for project opportunities or payment, I am fine with spending several days offline at a time. I prefer paper books but also use an e-reader for space-saving (extreme minimalism). Thanks for the good roundup of principles of addiction and the sane use of digital devices! I spend more time in meditation, yoga, and/or having deep conversations in person than anything else.
Exactly. I also think that your learning experience will be so much deeper and better if you handle it like that. A similar issue I have been thinking a lot of recently (cause on vacation) is GPS use.... It really makes people less capable. It makes us dumber to use GPS. In the end, you don't know your way around anymore, cause you know "where to look it up" (aka "what to rely on") instead of "where it is" (aka "how to rely on yourself and remember shit"). And the worst fallacy of all is that people believe that crap argument that this would free up headspace. As if your head was a hard drive or what? The reality is that your brain works better with more work and that it has endless capacity compared to how much we actually use of it in our lifetime. How can anyone think we are ever using too much of our brains and need to use them less. LOL, what?!
@@UndineAlmani Exactly so. Brains need exercise like muscles. And I don't trust GPS after it has led me into wrong places way too many times! I would have been underwater if I had followed its advice, and it showed me driving on the bottom of a lake when I was on a perfectly good road, ha ha! I have a Garmin but I usually study paper maps before getting into the van and carry them with me, or use my own spidey-senses unless I need to find a specific address on a street (I know where the street is, but not that address on the street). This is a good use, or when traveling in an area where maybe the paper maps are not up to date (but then the GPS is not often up to date either!). A surprising amount of the time I just drive "randomly" and "just happen" to find the thing I'm looking for. Also, I have enjoyed accidentally discovering little shops and eateries by just looking and intuitively exploring. I would have ended up going to other places (which I would probably have enjoyed less) if I had been relying on a smartphone or GPS to tell me where to eat or shop or whatever.
Same. I carried a paper map all the way to Sweden in the mountains, first and foremost because no electricity = no gps. But when I used gps it led me to the winter road which was flooded, and my feet got soaked XD I also think that apart from that it's good to explore your surroundings without seeing it through the lens of a navigation program...
for me the internet has been such an incredible resource. without youtube I absolutely would not know as much stuff as I do, Lately I havent been watching the most inteleccual content and thats mainly because of an increased amount of stress but if I am wasting some time on stupid videos in return for all the things I learn it is worth it.
Seit wir keinen TV Streaming Dienst mehr haben, habe ich so viel mehr Zeit. Ich schaue wenn dann ganz bewusst Filme/Serien. Und dabei dachte ich noch, dass ich vorher schon gut aufgestellt war. Smartphone abends weit weg und einen anderen Wecker nutzen war für mich ein Meilenstein. Schlafe viel besser ein!
Ja voll. Und wenn ich bedenke, dass ich das Smartphone nur bei mir hatte wegen dem Wecker.... Ich mein, hab es nachts eh immer im Flugmodus. Die Lösung war echt einfach. Ich hatte aber auch mal ein Handy (damals vor 10 Jahren, lol), das konnte man einfach nachts ausmachen und der Wecker hat früh dann das Handy eingeschaltet. Gibts ja irgendwie auch nimmer.
Nee, ist ja mittlerweile jeder Scheiß eine App. Mich nervt das auch. Mein Mann hat immerhin Lineage statt Android, Graphene soll auch gut sein. Überlege auch ob ich mir das hole. Das Fairphone ist so gemacht dass es besonders einfach ist ein anderes OS zu installieren
@@UndineAlmani Hmhm. Es ist zeitaufwendig, doch bei jeder Gelegenheit, wenn etwas, das vorher super ohne App funktioniert hat, nun eine App benötigt, sollte man sein Unbehagen dagegen äußern. Insbesondere wenn es wirklich kritische Infrastruktur betrifft. Beispiel: aktuell stellt DHL eine neue Generation von Packstationen auf, die ein Smartphone mit Bluetooth und mobiler Internetverbindung voraussetzen. So spart sich DHL ein paar Euros auf Kosten der einfachen Zugänglichkeit. Menschen die kein Smartphone benutzen möchten, auf der die illegale (weil ohne Zustimmung Daten an Google und Adobe sendende) App läuft oder die das schlichtweg nicht können (z.B. Blinde), werden ausgeschlossen. Immerhin kann man DHL nerven, indem man Pakete, die in einer Packstation landen, über eine recht unbekannte Option auf der Webseite neu zustellen lässt. So verursacht man weitere Kosten bei der DHL, die hoffentlich so hoch werden, dass die DHL die neue Generation der Packstationen wieder durch die vorherige Packstationen ersetzt.
Definitiv. Jetzt wird aus dem Hintergrundrauschen, der ja immer irgendwie da war, ein Vordergrundrauschen, der blind und taub macht, für die wichtigen Sachen im Leben.
Hm... Looking for discrimination everywhere and demanding special treatment even if you're privileged as fuck or made the situation bad for yourself to begin with. Or freaking out when someone "misgenders you". Wokeness has become super toxic imo. For me it's not "being aware of discrimination" anymore. It has become a total meme and an insult. Awareness is a good thing, I am all for that. But mostly, this all can be resolved by people just not being assholes, there are no labels needed for it, no special languages and no pity parties. Instead it would be cool if the society could more grow together than apart and instead of focusing on segregation and distances all the time look for what we have in common (which is the majority of things).
@@UndineAlmani It would be nice if we could all not be assholes, sadly there are many who are anyways, and without being "toxic" to them, they very successfully spread ideas of hatred. Of course sometimes this goes too far, but one can only see queer people as toxic if they find it easy to ignore those who are toxic to us. There has been a very successful propaganda campaign against us here in the US, and new laws explicitly discriminatory to us are being proposed every day, each of which must be fought against for it not to be passed. Hitler wasn't defeated with kindness sadly.
I think your critique of modern internet behavior or the modern way of using the internet is just a critique of the postmodern industrial civiliazition...
I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I have seen similar things with magazines, but I do not think it is that addictive. Or that dull. Because it is more curated. The globalization and speed of it all makes it way more intense...
You remember the old days, and the show in TV, I'll not lie, yes I'm addicted to PC. You like to take photos and i think you can do good photos if you use (stable diffusion webui). Thanks for the video
Just gotta shut the lid and have coffee outside 2 days a week. That's how you start. I don't need to be at my computer all the time. It's my work place. I realized that back when I started working in a big company. I was spending 8 hours on that f*cking thing. Why would I then continue to waste another 4 on it? No way... Nature it is! Family time it is.
I am glad that I stepped on this video.
Enshittification of the internet is real. Thanks for being so honest and providing this good stuff.
I needed this- thank you - most stuff on Tik tok rly is trash, you should start a podcast
Thank you :)) I actually did start a podcast, but not about this topic. Podcast can be found on my channel page :-)
You made me realize about how I use my time and energy. Thank you.
🤍 Glad you found it useful :-)
16:34 This lesson was worth watching the entire video for. Thanks!
Thanks for commenting :-) I love this experiment, I just wish more medical professionals would actually know about it
@@UndineAlmani True. Addictive behaviour is usually a symptom of some other underlying need. Most people just find something "less harmful" (like snacking or social media) to get addicted to, rather than fix the underlying problem.
Thanks for sharing your insight on the topic.
That is how everyone should approach media usage in general. It is so easy getting stuck binge watching a show or convincing yourself that you are productive because you spent the last 3 hours watching videos on a topic you are interested in. Personally I try to limit the number of videos I watch in a row so that I don't fall into the recommendation loop (with varying degree of success).
After spending a bit too much time clicking and scrolling through low-value content this evening this video hit a little close to home.
Undine - thank you so much. I am going to try your suggestion this year. I went through a rough divorce last year, and, begrudgingly, picked up smoking afterwards.
I would like to quit, but the idea of completely stopping honestly kinda sucks. I am going to try stopping down to a few cigarettes a year. Maybe 2 a month or something at first.
I filmed a video about my whole process of quitting, I just have to edit it. But it's going up eventually. Wish you all the best. You can do this. I know how much a breakup hurts, and it'll probably take some time to become fully yourself again. But it is possible, and it usually ends in feeling more independent and like you can manage your life once you succeed. I always felt like smoking was just making me an addict and taking away my sense of control in this context. But by saying "I decide when I smoke", not some doctor, not the cigarettes, that helped me regain control. I'm sure it's a stupid mind game but it worked for 7 years as of today.
I'm tempted to get a phone, just to try out your advice.
lol, no!! Don't do it 😱
I'm with you on making lists of content to watch and things to buy. Given a moment, the BS will be discarded and drop away leaving time and resources for other things that may be more beneficial. We have too many choices sometimes, and lists help us survive abundance.
Greetings from the Netherlands, great video! I've been wanting to do so much myself, but I've been distracting myself with so much unneeded stuff that I just don't get to do what I've been wanting to work on. Frustrating, but at the end of the day it all comes back to the stuff you tell yourself.
"Just one more video."
"Oh, after this one I'll be productive."
"Okay now for real..."
Completely feel that. Watch @struthless ❤️❤️❤️ 10/10 coolest channel on that kind of stuff. Productivity, but not in that weird "life coach, need to optimize all your shit 24/7 until your the Hulk and Richard P. Feynman in one person" style but actually helpful 👍🏻
I appreciate the thoughts and insight.
Ive personally tried to push for my phone being nothing more than a tool. Frequently i find myself in situation where ill be out to dinner and will see so many people sitting around on their phone while with other people and it bugs me.
The dopamine drip from short form content is real. I quickly began seeing myself falling prey to it and had to uninstall apps like tiktok. Its scary how it can lock down your life and kick people into an echo chamber.
Agree. I see that too and it's so sad. Especially on the bus or bus stop etc. People used to read or if not talk to at least look at each other... we are more antisocial than ever now thanks to "social media". I use a technique from meditation called "noting". You register when you have an emotion or a thought. And instead of hovering over it and giving into feeling or thinking, you just note "A feeling." or "A thought." and kinda put it into a box. That is used in addiction therapy as well. Aka if you feel like "Now I want to look at my phone." you just take notice but don't do it. Some people also like to put a dash on a piece of paper and register how often they think of the substance / thing they want but isn't healthy for them. I do that with my phone, games, other distracting behavior etc.
Thank you for sharing your wonderful knowledge 👍👍
Good video. I don't use smartphones, just a flip phone and I keep it in a different room than the one I sleep in, only check it a few times a day for messages/calls. I use my computer (intentionally) for online needs--communicating with others I know, educating myself on various things and how to do projects I'm interested in, and to share or submit my writing and similar tasks for others to potentially pay me. If there is no time-sensitive need to watch my email for project opportunities or payment, I am fine with spending several days offline at a time. I prefer paper books but also use an e-reader for space-saving (extreme minimalism). Thanks for the good roundup of principles of addiction and the sane use of digital devices! I spend more time in meditation, yoga, and/or having deep conversations in person than anything else.
Exactly. I also think that your learning experience will be so much deeper and better if you handle it like that. A similar issue I have been thinking a lot of recently (cause on vacation) is GPS use.... It really makes people less capable. It makes us dumber to use GPS. In the end, you don't know your way around anymore, cause you know "where to look it up" (aka "what to rely on") instead of "where it is" (aka "how to rely on yourself and remember shit"). And the worst fallacy of all is that people believe that crap argument that this would free up headspace. As if your head was a hard drive or what? The reality is that your brain works better with more work and that it has endless capacity compared to how much we actually use of it in our lifetime. How can anyone think we are ever using too much of our brains and need to use them less. LOL, what?!
@@UndineAlmani Exactly so. Brains need exercise like muscles. And I don't trust GPS after it has led me into wrong places way too many times! I would have been underwater if I had followed its advice, and it showed me driving on the bottom of a lake when I was on a perfectly good road, ha ha! I have a Garmin but I usually study paper maps before getting into the van and carry them with me, or use my own spidey-senses unless I need to find a specific address on a street (I know where the street is, but not that address on the street). This is a good use, or when traveling in an area where maybe the paper maps are not up to date (but then the GPS is not often up to date either!). A surprising amount of the time I just drive "randomly" and "just happen" to find the thing I'm looking for. Also, I have enjoyed accidentally discovering little shops and eateries by just looking and intuitively exploring. I would have ended up going to other places (which I would probably have enjoyed less) if I had been relying on a smartphone or GPS to tell me where to eat or shop or whatever.
Same. I carried a paper map all the way to Sweden in the mountains, first and foremost because no electricity = no gps. But when I used gps it led me to the winter road which was flooded, and my feet got soaked XD I also think that apart from that it's good to explore your surroundings without seeing it through the lens of a navigation program...
for me the internet has been such an incredible resource. without youtube I absolutely would not know as much stuff as I do, Lately I havent been watching the most inteleccual content and thats mainly because of an increased amount of stress but if I am wasting some time on stupid videos in return for all the things I learn it is worth it.
For me, alarm clock is not a minimalist solution. I use rooster singing.
My kid is my alarm lol
Seit wir keinen TV Streaming Dienst mehr haben, habe ich so viel mehr Zeit. Ich schaue wenn dann ganz bewusst Filme/Serien. Und dabei dachte ich noch, dass ich vorher schon gut aufgestellt war. Smartphone abends weit weg und einen anderen Wecker nutzen war für mich ein Meilenstein. Schlafe viel besser ein!
Sehr schlau. Müsste ich auch viel mehr machen. Smart Phone nur einen Abend die Woche oder so. Sonst lesen. Ist was ganz anderes!
Ja voll. Und wenn ich bedenke, dass ich das Smartphone nur bei mir hatte wegen dem Wecker.... Ich mein, hab es nachts eh immer im Flugmodus. Die Lösung war echt einfach.
Ich hatte aber auch mal ein Handy (damals vor 10 Jahren, lol), das konnte man einfach nachts ausmachen und der Wecker hat früh dann das Handy eingeschaltet. Gibts ja irgendwie auch nimmer.
Nee, ist ja mittlerweile jeder Scheiß eine App. Mich nervt das auch. Mein Mann hat immerhin Lineage statt Android, Graphene soll auch gut sein. Überlege auch ob ich mir das hole. Das Fairphone ist so gemacht dass es besonders einfach ist ein anderes OS zu installieren
@@UndineAlmani Hmhm. Es ist zeitaufwendig, doch bei jeder Gelegenheit, wenn etwas, das vorher super ohne App funktioniert hat, nun eine App benötigt, sollte man sein Unbehagen dagegen äußern.
Insbesondere wenn es wirklich kritische Infrastruktur betrifft. Beispiel: aktuell stellt DHL eine neue Generation von Packstationen auf, die ein Smartphone mit Bluetooth und mobiler Internetverbindung voraussetzen.
So spart sich DHL ein paar Euros auf Kosten der einfachen Zugänglichkeit. Menschen die kein Smartphone benutzen möchten, auf der die illegale (weil ohne Zustimmung Daten an Google und Adobe sendende) App läuft oder die das schlichtweg nicht können (z.B. Blinde), werden ausgeschlossen. Immerhin kann man DHL nerven, indem man Pakete, die in einer Packstation landen, über eine recht unbekannte Option auf der Webseite neu zustellen lässt. So verursacht man weitere Kosten bei der DHL, die hoffentlich so hoch werden, dass die DHL die neue Generation der Packstationen wieder durch die vorherige Packstationen ersetzt.
i am an addict holy crap lol ... well shit
Here is some algorithm food.
Much appreciated 👍🏻 🍽️
2:40 ja, hab ich bei jeder präsentation in der schule gemacht 😂🧠
Funktioniert auch an der Uni 😅 Ich kann e ht nicht glauben dass ich die Diskussion noch mit Leuten im 3. Fachsemester hatte like wtf
I watch vids sitting in the lew….. 😂😂😂😂
Ooooh! Das höre ich mir nachher in Ruhe an. 😍 Bin gespannt, was du dazu zu sagen hast! P.s.: Schöne Blümchen! 🙂 🌼🌺🌸
Ja, mach das! Die Blümchen bringt mein Kind immer heim :))
Thanks!
Liebste Grüße. Kann dir nur zustimmen. Mehr Minimalismus, mehr Bewusstsein. Eigentlich ganz einfach. Mag deine so basierte Einstellung
Ich denke es war einfach als unsere Welt noch langsamer war und Einsamkeit möglicher war als jetzt.
Definitiv. Jetzt wird aus dem Hintergrundrauschen, der ja immer irgendwie da war, ein Vordergrundrauschen, der blind und taub macht, für die wichtigen Sachen im Leben.
algorithm do your job 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It brought you here 😁
🤣🤣@@UndineAlmani
hey! here is the comment for the algorithm. greetings from brazil!
Thank you !!
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Thank you ❤️❤️🙋🏼♀️
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I'm curious what you consider woke
Hm... Looking for discrimination everywhere and demanding special treatment even if you're privileged as fuck or made the situation bad for yourself to begin with. Or freaking out when someone "misgenders you".
Wokeness has become super toxic imo. For me it's not "being aware of discrimination" anymore. It has become a total meme and an insult. Awareness is a good thing, I am all for that. But mostly, this all can be resolved by people just not being assholes, there are no labels needed for it, no special languages and no pity parties. Instead it would be cool if the society could more grow together than apart and instead of focusing on segregation and distances all the time look for what we have in common (which is the majority of things).
@@UndineAlmani It would be nice if we could all not be assholes, sadly there are many who are anyways, and without being "toxic" to them, they very successfully spread ideas of hatred. Of course sometimes this goes too far, but one can only see queer people as toxic if they find it easy to ignore those who are toxic to us. There has been a very successful propaganda campaign against us here in the US, and new laws explicitly discriminatory to us are being proposed every day, each of which must be fought against for it not to be passed.
Hitler wasn't defeated with kindness sadly.
I think your critique of modern internet behavior or the modern way of using the internet is just a critique of the postmodern industrial civiliazition...
I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I have seen similar things with magazines, but I do not think it is that addictive. Or that dull. Because it is more curated. The globalization and speed of it all makes it way more intense...
You remember the old days, and the show in TV,
I'll not lie, yes I'm addicted to PC.
You like to take photos and i think you can do good photos if you use (stable diffusion webui).
Thanks for the video
Just gotta shut the lid and have coffee outside 2 days a week. That's how you start. I don't need to be at my computer all the time. It's my work place. I realized that back when I started working in a big company. I was spending 8 hours on that f*cking thing. Why would I then continue to waste another 4 on it? No way... Nature it is! Family time it is.
i thought this was a poem
thank u
Thank _you_ :D Where did you get that fish?!
I needed this- thank you - most stuff on Tik tok rly is trash, you should start a podcast
I have a podcast, but it's mostly about content creator stuff. Thank you anyway 🤍
Thank you!
Thanks for subscribing :-))