Dragon King Oscurare really? freya just wants her family to be safe from Marcel. Btw if freya wasn't here Elijah would probably be in a coffin right now so stfu
Glad Elijah stopped Freya from saying something not nice to Hayley. I understood both their points of view. Freya was robbed of her family for years and now has them back and Hayley does not believe in the end justifies the means.
We also have to remember that Keelin has or had a life. She was becoming an ER Doctor and yet it’s put on pause because her venom can be used to save The Mikaelsons should they get bitten by Marcel again or if someone gets their hands on his venom
i understand why freya is so determined to keep the wolf hostage. she wants enough venom to ensure her family's safety. im starting to understand now that freya is the one sibling that would go beyond the other mikaelsons (even elijah or klaus) to do what needs to be done no matter how cruel it is. And for her attitude towards hayley, its unjustifiable....i mean, even though she is planning to hold an innocent girl hostage doesn't mean what hayleys saying isn't the truth. i feel that freyas view of the world has been corrupted because of the troubles of her childhood and the current predicament they are in. she feels that no matter how good or pure a person claims to be, they can always be corrupted showing that the world is indeed a bad place
Hayley thinks everything revolves around her. Hayley has done worse for her family. But when Freya does it for her family she's horrible? Hayley thinks she can take anyone on. That's what got her killed.
@@di9403 then maybe hayley should have also been called out for her actions more. Also, what's worse is that freyja is acting a lot like klaus, who elijah compared to her description of dahlia back in season 2
Animal Lover if you were keelin you would want your freedom just as much. it isnt fair to be held against your will for something you have no contol over
I don't think Hayley's first "real instinct" is to be noble, but at least she is trying to change for the better(like Klaus), for her daughter.. Freya hated that her innocence was taken at a young age, yet she thinks it's a "necessary evil" that Hope loses hers. As a way to protect the family? Hope is family, and so is Hayley. Evil breeds evil, I don't think Marcel is the most similar to Klaus from season one. I think that's Freya. She doesn't care what she has to do, even to members of her own family. She believes she knows best, and others who aren't blood aren't as important, but still rightly sacrificial for the good of the family. (Though, I really do think Klaus loves Marcel like a son). Hope's innocence, Kol's true love. I wouldn't hate her attitude so much if she felt a little bit of remorse. To me, it seemed like she couldn't understand what he was so upset about. Then with Hope, saying she can live without her innocence when she hated her mother and aunt for not protecting hers. I don't hate Freya, not after everything she has done for the family. However, to me she's like her mother and her brother Niklaus. She is letting her own fear control her. Which is causing her not to care about the consequences of her actions. Necessary evil, loss of innocence, new problems arise so now repeat. I think if she only does things this way, even to protect her family, she will just end up endangering them as well. I hope she starts to change, I fear how she'll see the other children. As children who need to be protected and saved with Hope, or a necessary sacrifice for her family in this "cruel, cruel world". I do not want to see Freya as that kind of person. As I've already said, I only hate her attitude right now. I don't hate her.
@@cherrycherryboomboom7297 with a son named Nik named after Niklaus & he was made by Freya keelin & Vincent two witches & werewolf this kid is gonna have a hell of a temper
RIGHT! She isn't scared to speak her mind out, I don't know why everyone's so mad at her for trying to keep Keelin captive when Elijah and Klaus literally killed thousands to assure their own family's safety which is way worse than what Freya's doing
honestly what she said that she can't live without her family it really shows in legacies where she won't even talk about her family because of how much it hurts and almost uses landon as a replacement tbh
I don't know why people hating her. She just wants to put her family's safety first. Once marcel attacked them you would all thank her for doing this. I love Freya 'cause she has become the big sister of the siblings that she truly is.
The Mikaelsons all have their own interpretation of "Always and Forever", and this motto require a big price. I think Kaelin is just one of that price, and honestly speaking I feel no pity for killing a wolf to save the whole family.
Hope is a Mikaelson. Sooner or later that innocence will be tarnished. And we all know Hayley is only protecting her because she is a she wolf like her but if she's other race she won't give a shit whatever Freya do to her. Kol and Elijah would have been dead now if without their sister Freya's trick. She is only doing what she knows best for their Family.
Freya just want to prevent trouble of searching last ingredient to the "cure" in case Marcel bit them again. Keelin is the only remaining member of her pack that is why Freya holding her tight.
i think freya might be slightly envious of Hope. she doesn't want to be but she is. hope has all these people around her who love her and want to protect her, where as Freya had none of that. Hope is allowed her innocence she has people protecting her from the big bad world. Freya's siblings lives weren't all that troubled- bar klaus until esther turned them while Freya was stuck with daliah which has made her bitter and jaded. Freya wants to protect the siblings she longed for, she wants to protect them. she can't understand any other way of doing things. there is no right and wrong when it comes to saving her family. to her Hayley releasing the wolf is like a betrayal, which is why she goes to say Hayley isn't one of them.
RIGHT! Freya put everything aside to save them, hell she even sacrificed her friend Davina to save her brothers, not once hesitated to give herself up for their family and they treat her like this? Hayley needs to understand Klaus and Elijah straight-up murdering others to keep themselves safe is so much worse than Freya wanting to keep a girl captive.
They had enough cures and it is sooo childish that Freya's sooo determined to keep that wolf hostage...i know and hate often for how many the mikaelsos have killed but freya has killed before and her murder of davina and torturing this girl was disturbing considering she was put to this fate for a thousand years and she is doing this upon others.
It's interesting that Freya finds it so easy to keep Keelin prisoner. After, centuries of having her life and freedom controlled by Dahlia. All that time kept from her family and having a real life. All because Dahlia wanted to use her power. She seems to find it so easy. I guess the point is we become the people who raise us. I really dislike Freya. You would think she would want to protect Hope's innocence if possible or at least try.
It's funny because Klaus even said that in season 2. No matter how much he hates it, he is the son of Mikael and Freya is proving that deep down, she's not that different from Dahlia.
In that case you must hate the whole Mikaelson family? Rebekah, Kol, Elijah and Klaus killed numerious amount of people, which is way worse than what Freya's doing, just to keep themselves safe, in that case, they're just like Mikael
@@rupantihoque1059 I think the difference between Freya and the rest of the family in this particular scene is while every one of them would kill to protect eachother they don't try to justify it and if they do say its in the name of family it legitimately is. I agree that in the beginning when they first take Keelin to make the cure, that was "normal" for them and in the name of family but at this point in the show Freya has already made many cures. Keeping Keelin captive after creating a substantial amount is just wrong. Also... her being cruel to Hayley just because she isn't getting her way is pretty childish.
@@projectoverchord Being cruel to Hayley to keep her family safe IS reasonable, killing (which the rest of the family does) is way worse than what's Freya's doing
I'm really starting to hate Freya this season it's like she has this personal vendetta against Marcel knowing that she's part of the reason why he hates the Mikealson's
HadesKing ofdarkness1294. your preaching the gospel my friend. anyone who says different is just a Michaelson lover. in some of the comments people are actually defending her saying just because she also doing it to protect family it's ok. but if they were placed in such a position minds would change real quick
JBaby Lucus when it comes down to it the Mikealson's are just selfish bastards who only look out for themselves if that includes turning a ally into a enemy
She just does to much n is a complete try hard, her excuse for everything is “for family” like stfu it’s getting annoying, she does crazy shit that not even klaus agrees with. Atleast Hayley realized that all the shit they doing “for family” is bad
freya and elijah are the reason they were all in that mess in the first place, without hayley they would have died. Hayley is hopes mother and freya had no right to make decisions that can negatively affect hope, if hope saw keelin in the barn she would become traumatized. Everything hayley said was right, freya was out of line.
@@sweetpilly9765 Here's the thing, without Elijah and Freya, Hayley would be dead, killed by Lucien, Freya's decision to keep Keelin active assure their WHOLE family, assures Hope will grow up with a family by her side. Freya was indeed cruel, but she was right, there was NO way a Mikaelson child could grow up innocent, Hope after was way more traumatized by her own father lmao
I’m a fan of Bonnie and Freya and I just realized that Freya is more stronger than Bonnie. Bonnie needs ancestors to hurt originals but Freya can easily snap their neck. But maybe because of the racist thing in TVD that’s why her character is look quite mess. I want more for Bonnie
Girl you barely stood a chance against Esther, what makes you think you stand a chance against Freya who is a firstborn and is more powerful than Esther.. smh she really thought she could beat Rebekah in 3x09 and Freya..
She doesn’t think she can beat them. In 3x9, she had to defend herself from rebekah. She couldn’t just there and wait for rebekah to rip her head off. She is not fighting them, just defending and stalling.
Well it's not that he just chose Hayley. Freya was basically saying that they don't even have to try and grant Hope a somewhat normal Childhood without horrors, simply because she is a Mikaelson and none of them had a normal Childhood without Horror. Elijah spent a 1000 years to get Klaus back into a place of happiness from the suffering he had to endure while growing up, and to redeem him. Now he heard Freya casually contemplating taking that chance away from Hope aswell.
Yes, because Davina was just a 'purpose to serve'. She didn't deserve a happy life, or a peaceful afterlife right? She's just a pawn to play in Freya's book.
She didn't mess with shit, she was brought into it by Marcel, then was manipulated by Klaus where people that she cared about were killed. All she did was fight back from the crap that the Mikaelsons put her through, and consequently killed by them. She died at 18 for god's sake, and even then she wasn't at peace, Freya had to go exile her.
Elaine S i mean ur not wrong about that but even after people stopped manipulating her she still stay to bring back kol which is understandable but she still fucked over the mikaelsons and every one gets there karma and im not saying it as a hater cuz i someone liked davina but that was the only thing freya could do to stop the beast
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She is a Mikaelson, she can live without her innocent. Cruel but true.
Hayley is Hope’s mother, so it’s her job to decide what her daughter can and cannot live without.
@@Badbaby72not her choice
@@nyasiajacques3480hope was a 7 year old girl ofc it was Hayley’s choice
@@ta-daynenelson2931maybe then but not when she’s grown up so…
@@jasonmoukala8909Haley was dead by the time Hope grew up, because Haley (her mother) sacrificed herself to save her daughter.
Freya is being ruthless on this episode, a trait she must have inherited from her fsther.
Dragon King Oscurare or her Aunt
Dragon King Oscurare I see Freyas point though but I love this side of herb
Theyre all ruthless when it comes to their family's safety.
olts yo yeah but when Marcel does the same y'all turn hypocrites.
Dragon King Oscurare really? freya just wants her family to be safe from Marcel. Btw if freya wasn't here Elijah would probably be in a coffin right now so stfu
I don’t get how people live Klaus and Elijah for being ruthless but hate freya for it.
Exactly
who hated her for it 😐
@@bmgdann1023 the ppl in comments
if freaya was vampire it look very different
They are vampires . They are just trying to be human.
Glad Elijah stopped Freya from saying something not nice to Hayley. I understood both their points of view. Freya was robbed of her family for years and now has them back and Hayley does not believe in the end justifies the means.
We also have to remember that Keelin has or had a life. She was becoming an ER Doctor and yet it’s put on pause because her venom can be used to save The Mikaelsons should they get bitten by Marcel again or if someone gets their hands on his venom
@@marcusbrown8036 I had not thought of this from Keelin's point of view. Thank you very much for that.
i understand why freya is so determined to keep the wolf hostage. she wants enough venom to ensure her family's safety. im starting to understand now that freya is the one sibling that would go beyond the other mikaelsons (even elijah or klaus) to do what needs to be done no matter how cruel it is. And for her attitude towards hayley, its unjustifiable....i mean, even though she is planning to hold an innocent girl hostage doesn't mean what hayleys saying isn't the truth. i feel that freyas view of the world has been corrupted because of the troubles of her childhood and the current predicament they are in. she feels that no matter how good or pure a person claims to be, they can always be corrupted showing that the world is indeed a bad place
Hayley thinks everything revolves around her. Hayley has done worse for her family. But when Freya does it for her family she's horrible? Hayley thinks she can take anyone on. That's what got her killed.
@@di9403 then maybe hayley should have also been called out for her actions more. Also, what's worse is that freyja is acting a lot like klaus, who elijah compared to her description of dahlia back in season 2
Animal Lover if you were keelin you would want your freedom just as much. it isnt fair to be held against your will for something you have no contol over
Elijah and Klaus KILLS to assure their family's safety, they didn't spare ANYONE, Freya keeping a girl captive is way less cruel then murdering lol
Not mention it borderlines racism.
I don't think Hayley's first "real instinct" is to be noble, but at least she is trying to change for the better(like Klaus), for her daughter.. Freya hated that her innocence was taken at a young age, yet she thinks it's a "necessary evil" that Hope loses hers. As a way to protect the family? Hope is family, and so is Hayley. Evil breeds evil, I don't think Marcel is the most similar to Klaus from season one. I think that's Freya. She doesn't care what she has to do, even to members of her own family. She believes she knows best, and others who aren't blood aren't as important, but still rightly sacrificial for the good of the family. (Though, I really do think Klaus loves Marcel like a son). Hope's innocence, Kol's true love. I wouldn't hate her attitude so much if she felt a little bit of remorse. To me, it seemed like she couldn't understand what he was so upset about. Then with Hope, saying she can live without her innocence when she hated her mother and aunt for not protecting hers. I don't hate Freya, not after everything she has done for the family. However, to me she's like her mother and her brother Niklaus. She is letting her own fear control her. Which is causing her not to care about the consequences of her actions. Necessary evil, loss of innocence, new problems arise so now repeat. I think if she only does things this way, even to protect her family, she will just end up endangering them as well. I hope she starts to change, I fear how she'll see the other children. As children who need to be protected and saved with Hope, or a necessary sacrifice for her family in this "cruel, cruel world". I do not want to see Freya as that kind of person. As I've already said, I only hate her attitude right now. I don't hate her.
Haley the the nerve to say about someone's innocence when klaus kill people how many families has he destroyed countless.
Freya is the only reason there Alive they owe their lives to her !!! She is just being the over protecting sister something anyone would do !!!!
alvaro209209 oh really,? isnt she the main reason why marcel took them down in the first place?
and if it wasn't for hayley they would all die
Perfect Purple right they would all be in a coffin and it’s not like they can’t find keelin again
@@aklopez3375 They would have died if she hadn't sacrificed Davina. Marcel and Vincent are straight up idiots.
They kalo kinda owe it to hayley she woke freya and what happened happened
Should've offered her protection and a place to live, she would be safer. But freedom is something you can't put a price tag on.
Keelin and Freya are so going to be together. This whole hostility and aggression towards each other is just the buildup
Sherry S interesting...I'd like to see that
And now they're married xD
@@cherrycherryboomboom7297 with a son named Nik named after Niklaus & he was made by Freya keelin & Vincent two witches & werewolf this kid is gonna have a hell of a temper
rare opinion but freya became one of my favourite characters since this season... I'm not mad at her here
unlike others im starting to love freya more this season
RIGHT! She isn't scared to speak her mind out, I don't know why everyone's so mad at her for trying to keep Keelin captive when Elijah and Klaus literally killed thousands to assure their own family's safety which is way worse than what Freya's doing
I’m not she’s a complete tryhard
honestly what she said that she can't live without her family
it really shows in legacies where she won't even talk about her family because of how much it hurts and almost uses landon as a replacement tbh
I don't know why people hating her. She just wants to put her family's safety first. Once marcel attacked them you would all thank her for doing this. I love Freya 'cause she has become the big sister of the siblings that she truly is.
M B no this is extreme she's even willing to sacrifice hopes innocence she's becoming a problem
The Mikaelsons all have their own interpretation of "Always and Forever", and this motto require a big price. I think Kaelin is just one of that price, and honestly speaking I feel no pity for killing a wolf to save the whole family.
Hope is a Mikaelson. Sooner or later that innocence will be tarnished. And we all know Hayley is only protecting her because she is a she wolf like her but if she's other race she won't give a shit whatever Freya do to her. Kol and Elijah would have been dead now if without their sister Freya's trick. She is only doing what she knows best for their Family.
Freya just want to prevent trouble of searching last ingredient to the "cure" in case Marcel bit them again. Keelin is the only remaining member of her pack that is why Freya holding her tight.
i think freya might be slightly envious of Hope. she doesn't want to be but she is. hope has all these people around her who love her and want to protect her, where as Freya had none of that. Hope is allowed her innocence she has people protecting her from the big bad world. Freya's siblings lives weren't all that troubled- bar klaus until esther turned them while Freya was stuck with daliah which has made her bitter and jaded. Freya wants to protect the siblings she longed for, she wants to protect them. she can't understand any other way of doing things. there is no right and wrong when it comes to saving her family. to her Hayley releasing the wolf is like a betrayal, which is why she goes to say Hayley isn't one of them.
just like bonnie giving her life to help her friends freya is giving hers to helping her family and not once have i heard a “thank you”
RIGHT! Freya put everything aside to save them, hell she even sacrificed her friend Davina to save her brothers, not once hesitated to give herself up for their family and they treat her like this? Hayley needs to understand Klaus and Elijah straight-up murdering others to keep themselves safe is so much worse than Freya wanting to keep a girl captive.
@@rupantihoque1059 This was technically worse, because she was torturing the girl
@@vrishankkanagala1514 Girl, anyways.... Y'all always finding excuses for those two 🥱
@@LaRoy. Which two are you talking about?
@@vrishankkanagala1514 Klaus and Elijah. Freya never did anything as bad as what they did.
They always listen to Elijah 😂
I love Freya~😘
Hayley really stepped up in the Mikaelson family omg. Her growth. Like home girl really choked Freya like they was really sistas WHEW
And actually lived
Legacies proved she really can’t live without her family
They had enough cures and it is sooo childish that Freya's sooo determined to keep that wolf hostage...i know and hate often for how many the mikaelsos have killed but freya has killed before and her murder of davina and torturing this girl was disturbing considering she was put to this fate for a thousand years and she is doing this upon others.
It's kinda cute how when Hayley grabbed Freya's neck she was still gentle w her hand if you watch closely 😭
It's interesting that Freya finds it so easy to keep Keelin prisoner. After, centuries of having her life and freedom controlled by Dahlia. All that time kept from her family and having a real life. All because Dahlia wanted to use her power. She seems to find it so easy. I guess the point is we become the people who raise us. I really dislike Freya. You would think she would want to protect Hope's innocence if possible or at least try.
It's funny because Klaus even said that in season 2. No matter how much he hates it, he is the son of Mikael and Freya is proving that deep down, she's not that different from Dahlia.
No_Fan_Girl No_Fan_Girl. at least dahila never came up with a pathetic excuse like my family this my family that. dahila was a true ogw.
In that case you must hate the whole Mikaelson family? Rebekah, Kol, Elijah and Klaus killed numerious amount of people, which is way worse than what Freya's doing, just to keep themselves safe, in that case, they're just like Mikael
@@rupantihoque1059 I think the difference between Freya and the rest of the family in this particular scene is while every one of them would kill to protect eachother they don't try to justify it and if they do say its in the name of family it legitimately is. I agree that in the beginning when they first take Keelin to make the cure, that was "normal" for them and in the name of family but at this point in the show Freya has already made many cures. Keeping Keelin captive after creating a substantial amount is just wrong.
Also... her being cruel to Hayley just because she isn't getting her way is pretty childish.
@@projectoverchord Being cruel to Hayley to keep her family safe IS reasonable, killing (which the rest of the family does) is way worse than what's Freya's doing
Freya Mikaelson with the Prue Hallowell magic toss.
😂
freya is starting to prove marcel right
true
exactly
Exactly
why
Elijah seems to agree with Hayley on almost everything he needs to show more backbone sometimes yeah.
Love this episode
I'm really starting to hate Freya this season it's like she has this personal vendetta against Marcel knowing that she's part of the reason why he hates the Mikealson's
HadesKing ofdarkness1294. finally someone says it.
JBaby Lucus
man its like most people want to see Marcel die or they can't stand his character but newsflash he was betrayed not once but twice
HadesKing ofdarkness1294. your preaching the gospel my friend. anyone who says different is just a Michaelson lover. in some of the comments people are actually defending her saying just because she also doing it to protect family it's ok. but if they were placed in such a position minds would change real quick
JBaby Lucus
when it comes down to it the Mikealson's are just selfish bastards who only look out for themselves if that includes turning a ally into a enemy
HadesKing ofdarkness1294. too true
Why are y’all hating on Freya she’s trying to save her family and wasn’t it Hayley who kidnapped her first
She just does to much n is a complete try hard, her excuse for everything is “for family” like stfu it’s getting annoying, she does crazy shit that not even klaus agrees with. Atleast Hayley realized that all the shit they doing “for family” is bad
@@bffsweet8486 ok name 5 crazy things she has did so far I’ll wait
I like that after Freya wooshed Hayley, Hayley didn't attack again but discussed instead
she's a mikaelson, and you're not. #facts
Who?
freya and elijah are the reason they were all in that mess in the first place, without hayley they would have died. Hayley is hopes mother and freya had no right to make decisions that can negatively affect hope, if hope saw keelin in the barn she would become traumatized. Everything hayley said was right, freya was out of line.
@@sweetpilly9765 Here's the thing, without Elijah and Freya, Hayley would be dead, killed by Lucien, Freya's decision to keep Keelin active assure their WHOLE family, assures Hope will grow up with a family by her side. Freya was indeed cruel, but she was right, there was NO way a Mikaelson child could grow up innocent, Hope after was way more traumatized by her own father lmao
@@sweetpilly9765 don’t matter she saw keelin getting abuse so she freed her
not true, Hayley was a part of the family even before Freya was
Freya 100000x0 Elijah and Hayley
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I’m a fan of Bonnie and Freya and I just realized that Freya is more stronger than Bonnie. Bonnie needs ancestors to hurt originals but Freya can easily snap their neck. But maybe because of the racist thing in TVD that’s why her character is look quite mess. I want more for Bonnie
Gosh Freya was disgusting
Yeah, but think about how long she looked for her family and she’s terrified to lose them again xx
@@faithaslanian4972 Just shut up please.
@@faster_xx no wtf bc they’re being real
@@faster_xx Calm down lmao, in that cause you must hate the whole Mikaelson family? Cuz they've done way worse to ensure their family's safety?
Girl you barely stood a chance against Esther, what makes you think you stand a chance against Freya who is a firstborn and is more powerful than Esther.. smh she really thought she could beat Rebekah in 3x09 and Freya..
She doesn’t think she can beat them. In 3x9, she had to defend herself from rebekah. She couldn’t just there and wait for rebekah to rip her head off. She is not fighting them, just defending and stalling.
I like Freya, sometimes, but Lucien was right. She's just the left over sister that no one ever knew existed.
Freya is getting really annoying 😬
I mean Hayley kinda deserved that she did come at Freya first
Okay this means Elijah choose Hayley over Freya ouch
well freya wasn’t in the right
Well it's not that he just chose Hayley.
Freya was basically saying that they don't even have to try and grant Hope a somewhat normal Childhood without horrors, simply because she is a Mikaelson and none of them had a normal Childhood without Horror.
Elijah spent a 1000 years to get Klaus back into a place of happiness from the suffering he had to endure while growing up, and to redeem him. Now he heard Freya casually contemplating taking that chance away from Hope aswell.
Freya is completely in the wrong tho. Even Klaus might agree with Elijah and Hayley
Freya was dahlia-ing
love freya
Freya was disgusting in this scene
Started to hate Freya from the time she sacrificed Davina. this just made me hate her even more.
Davina was already dead, by Freya's grace she was protected for a while in that circle, until she had another purpose to serve.
Yes, because Davina was just a 'purpose to serve'. She didn't deserve a happy life, or a peaceful afterlife right? She's just a pawn to play in Freya's book.
Elaine S shit davina had it coming if she wanted a happy life/after life she shouldn't have missed with shit thats not her problem
She didn't mess with shit, she was brought into it by Marcel, then was manipulated by Klaus where people that she cared about were killed. All she did was fight back from the crap that the Mikaelsons put her through, and consequently killed by them. She died at 18 for god's sake, and even then she wasn't at peace, Freya had to go exile her.
Elaine S i mean ur not wrong about that but even after people stopped manipulating her she still stay to bring back kol which is understandable but she still fucked over the mikaelsons and every one gets there karma and im not saying it as a hater cuz i someone liked davina but that was the only thing freya could do to stop the beast
I hate freya more than i hate elena and that says things
Bye Freya is a queen who wanted her family safe no matter what just like Elijah
@@yonnaminor5125 so what she went to far
@@bffsweet8486 agree sometimes she did but so did others for their family
First!!!
Ok guys Frey realized her bad behavior and decided to marry this wolf Keelin. Will you forgive her now? 😊