Roll Risk Free after 2 rolls?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2023
- Roll Risk Free after 2 rolls? Todays dice advice is called Risk, recover, and reward. First roll is the risk, second roll you recover your bet, and third roll you roll risk free and start collecting the reward.
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Thank you so much! Great explanation! Definitely, I’ll apply this strategy next casino visit!
Have a feeling will be watching again. So much explanation.
Hoping roll helps.
Wow this strategy is phenomenal!!!! I especially love the way you reviewed and discussed the “Pros & Cons” in detail something important however rarely discussed when presenting a betting strategy!! I’m not willing to risk a huge bank roll in the hopes of catching the anticipated “Monster Roll”. Like you said this system will allow you to not miss a monster roll with a conservative bank roll and thereby keeping you in the game longer when the dreaded “Cold Table” occurs! Great job and I plan on adding this as one of my main strategies when I’m at the tables. Thank You so much for sharing your knowledge!! You are awesome - God Bless
Great job explaining it and interesting system aside from the risk numbers at points. Definitely complicated and you’ll want dealers who can keep up! :)
Thanks for the Video, good job in that. I like the Strat and think if you can just keep that 1st roll safe it's ez street from there on.....
You are running up on that 100k subs fast…. Proud of you brother, that’s a big number in this space.
I appreciate that...its been crazy journey
Love the fact that you put the cash and the come. Perhaps you could make this an on going feature of teaching etiquette and strategies. It could be something quick and simple like don’t forget if you’re playing for the first time you, don’t forget Craps etiquette says wait for the puck to be in the opposition and place your money in the come and wait for your chips.
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I have enjoyed watching your channel grow. I remember when you were a really small channel. Congrats!!!
Thank you so much!
I love to have a sheet on this of what to put on my 5-9 6-8 4-10 for the bet cuz I play this but definitely new the numbers
4/10 - buy for 55 and then 44 on the inside = that is $99 plus the vig of 2-3 dollars. This is best case scenario
5/9 = $75 place bet and you have a choice. Either $12 each in the 6/8 for a total of $99. Or you can place the 4/9/10 for $10 each for a total of $105. .
6/8 - I would just restart it. Because it would be 90 place on the point, and $12 on the 8 for $102.
I personally wouldn’t do a perfect hedge, I would take more of a risk and cover some more numbers. If a 7 out occurs you only lose $10 or so. But if you even have a decent roll of 7-10 you will make some decent profit.
I love this strategy... the dealer will hate me but I'm going to try it in Vegas next week!
My advice, Absolutely the best on a 25 dollar table and you the only shooter. I don't throw too many Yos or 4 -3 sevens on the comeout because I set my dice and can also easily avoid the point on the first roll. Playing by yourself gives you and the dealer the time to set your bets properly. To the craps world, you are welcome.
Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for watching!
I use a similar strategy. I didn’t know you could remove the don’t come bet though! So will try and utilise that when I get an 8/6 on the come out roll
long as you are not the shooter you can remove the don't come bet.
Not only can you remove (unless you're the shooter, then you have to observe table min), you can reduce it. The riskiest part of the don't side is the actual roll - that's when you're most at risk. Maybe consider reducing your don't if you're on 6/8 (I don't, but I get the logic) rather than removing it all together. A $40 don't can be reduced to, for example $15 if that makes you less nervous or, even better, after you've cleared a couple of points and now need to hedge your money on the table just a little less than when you rolled out the don't.
Hey Jermey, I love hop strategies, but like anything you got to close all loopholes, especially with casinos. He needs to hedge the eleven and hop that third seven. It might slightly cut his profit margin, but he is paying for peace of mind, just in case, they roll back-to-back eleven, you are right that's a deep hole to climb out of. It is a must on bubble craps. More hop, and crapless craps strategies.
Reminds me of HCS' Lightswitch strategy
Thanks for another great video! I watched this early morning and went straight to the Jack Casino in Cleveland to try it out. Sadly, their bubble craps machines don't allow a buy bet when there is money on the don't pass line. It's too bad. I could see grinding away and afternoon with this strategy.
You can usually "trick" the bubble machines. Makes bets on the numbers first, then turn them off. Then go ahead and make your don't pass bet. Once its set, you can turn your place bets on and remove any unwanted.
@@ColorUp Thank you for another great tip! I will definitely give that a try next trip up
The closest casino to me has the don't pass and don't come line combined. Don't pass is only allowed on the come out. Then becomes a don't come bet. Would this strategy even be possible on that table?
My home table doesn't have a hops mat, I am going to buy one. I was trying to do this with a smaller don't unit, but without hopping the math comes out wonky. But on a bubble crabs table 🤔. Good job Jeremy 💯
Go for it! Most casinos will accept hop bets even if not on there layout, ask to see what they say
@@ColorUp lol, I meant on my table literally in my house 😎. You inspired me to build one. 🥂
would the dialer allow you to bet 105 on the seven and also bet on the actual "on" number?
Hot springs got one on Monday’s
Another good one.
Craps cowboy here I'm ready for your 30 roll challenge.
I get the idea, just not my style. For me it's too many hedges and I like to stick to either light or dark not both. To each there own, if it work it works, and fun is fun.
Best thing about Roll & Win at casinos are no table chips to get in the way!!
I think the aim of this strategy is to "break even" 90% of the time and hopefully hit a quick don't pass win (or several) on the come out roll. You only made $6 on 2 rolls and a jackpot $105 on a 3rd. Certainly a good one for the electronic craps machine but I would expect to be tipping the dealer often for all their hard work to move your bets around.
I don’t think that’s the aim of the strategy, I think the aim is to hit a bunch of non point numbers and not be worried about the 7. It’s basically to be risk free after a short number of rolls, while you wait for a decent one ! And since it’s low risk once you have your don’t and place bet. You can press up the other numbers
If the point is an even number one could add a hard way as a hedge.
want 2 b risk free from 1st roll on...hear your da man ddp1
Has anyone confirmed you can bet the don't pass and the point at the same time in bubble craps? Much appreciated.
My experience has been no. But there is a workaround. If you cover all the numbers but turn them off, then make your dont pass, once it goes to a number you can turn on.
If you aren't the shooter you can cancel your don't in bubble craps so that is the other option.
Where did you get the hops bet mat from
Custom made
I wouldnt see anyone using this strategy at a live table. The hedge bets really not a fan of them. Bubble craps like you said.
interesting idea but like green in roulette i feel you get absolutely crushed by rolling a 12 on the come out roll. your hops lose and the don't come pushes.
Not crushed, but you would lose the hop bets. The real crusher on first roll, is the 11
Explanation was really complicated, but once I saw it in action, very interesting strategy.
Could you increase the field to $30, the any seven to $7, and then cover the third 7 combo for $7 on the come out roll? Not sure how that would impact the places bets. I’ll have to look at this a bit.
Hey colorup, where did you buy your craps table?
Not a real table. I built myself. Layout I designed and had printed at casinosupply.com
@@ColorUp thank you
Do not remove your don't pass bet under any circumstances once a point has been established. The only reason the casino allows you to do so is because you're now a favorite to win against any established point!!
This one I like 👍.
Glad you like it
I assume that if your casino doesn’t do Hop Bets, you could bet $21 on Any 7 (pays $84 + orig. $21). It takes a little more effort to win back the extra $7 in the second phase of the game. Maybe you have to stick out the Recover Phase for two rolls.
every casino (that I am aware of) does Hop bets, but you have to ask the stickman on it. they are easy money for the house for minimal risk.
what wouold this look like on a 15 dollar table?
315 on the don't. 21 on both hops. Triple the iron cross, triple the place bets. Overall you are making money on all the place bets not the point. And not losing on the seven. Goal is to have the same placed as on the don't. Placing the point the proper amount covers your don't and leaves extra money on the table at no risk.
Fun math, and fun seeing how the strategy plays out, but I don't think it's for me. Too many moving pieces and too much constant hedging for a relatively small reward, unless you hit a truly monster roll.
You only hedge on the comeout. And recover your money on a point seven by betting any seven. . Bet any other way the way he threw an you lost. He threw 3 sevens on the comeout in a row hedging saves your but playing the don't.
@@crapscowboy777 playing the don't and the numbers is a hedge. The entire system is one big hedge. He's got nearly $250 in play for an average payout per shooter of $10-$15, when he wins. And if you get some shooters who actually hit a couple of points in a row (unlike our friend in the video)... There goes your whole bankroll.
@@Fire5485 you have to hit the point on the first roll after the comeout in order to lose
if you hit it anytime after you lose nothing. It sets you up for the monster roll without losing before he shows up. He didn't roll four times before he threw a seven. So if you bet with the table and tried to cover as many numbers you lost. Notice the strategy won.
@@crapscowboy777 would you just use the any 7 in stead of hopping?
@@Charlie-Bee you only get 4 to 1 on any 7 where you get 15 to one on the hop. You could cover all three hop sevens for 21 vice 26 to cover the 105 then you would need two rolls to get that money back instead of one.
I play this on a 25dollar table, I sent you the 5 dollar because you normally do five dollars. But the math is the same. Also removing the don't is an option if you want to place nice. but you lock in the profit by keeping it there.
Does this strategy work with a smaller unit don't? Thanks for sharing 🎲
@@Charlie-Bee the overall goal of this strategy is to elimthe risk as soon as possible (2rolls) while leaving the maximum amount on the table covering as many numbers possible. 105 is the minimum needed on a 5 dollar table in order to place the point and place other numbers. The 4 and ten are the best because you have 44 inside left To make you money. If you play on a 25 dollar table you would be risking 525 on those first two rolls but have 245 placed to make money at no risk.
I really like using the risk aversion advantages of the straddle of don't/point. I'm a novice craps player, What's your don't on a $25 table and hop bets?
If it's a 5/6/8 point, do you ever bump up the cross and add some odds for a couple rolls to allow for a quicker profit base before placing the point?
I like this strategy but I'd modify it to hop all 3 of the 7 combos plus the 11 and be willing to take an extra couple rolls to recover just to take the catastrophic first roll out. It's only $28 vs $14 that you're losing and with the strategy and any type of good roll or getting 2/3 craps on the opening roll leaves you sitting in very good shape.
I hear ya, that would be the worst if you hop some combos, and the one you didn’t rolled 😳
@@ColorUp After some thinking I'd tweak it a bit further. Cover all the 7's and the 11 but also cover the 12 with $2. That way if the 12 rolls your Don't Pass stays in place and the 12 pays your hop bets at the small price of $2 extra. After that I'd just take the recover stage out to completely eliminate the awful roll that destroys a non-hedged Don't Pass and just start betting how you feel to hopefully recover and in a few rolls. I get the percentages say it should work that you get to the 3rd roll debt free I just don't trust the dice to abide by those percentages and love the idea of taking the catastrophic roll out of what seems like a great base strategy. Next time I'm in a casino, which will be a while since SC isn't a fan of gambling, I'm going to give this a trial run.
I guess i am missing something. Tried this on my simulator and hit the point on Roll#2 twice in a row. There doesn't seem to be anything in here covering for that contingency. UPDATE: Followed that up by rolling two 11s in a row. Down 500+ bucks after 12 rolls.
Correct, if you hit the point on the second roll, its a loss of big don't pass bet. You have been unlucky, it can and will happen for sure
All simulators suck with craps,you can bet every number except one and that number will hit three times . Make a human beat you then you have to be unlucky to lose where betting with the table you have to be lucky to win.
So I did the math on what the results would of been with a 5 dollar pass bet, max odds on point and attempting to cover the place bets with the min. Results 3 shooters one got the point and threw a couple of 7s on the come out the others 7 out before removing almost nothing. Final results you lost a total of 102 dollars on Three shooters. My strategy won 111. Dollars. For the record if a shooter has rolled where my place bets other than the point are paid or I lift both the don't and the big amount on the point. If he sevens out I'm ahead if he gets the point I'm ahead if he got the point after my 5 hits and I'm not shooting I'm not wasting money on the don't or hop bets just riding the place bets until he sevens out then I start again on the next shooter. This strategy was still successfully after getting the 4 on the 3 roll after the comeout and throwing 3 back to back 7s on the comeout all while betting against it.
Waaay to complicated for me. Dealers must love this strategy, as long as the player tips really well for making them work so much
Their job is to deal. Good dealers like to work. But as I mentioned, this is ideal for electronic tabkes
Better be tipping your dealer well while playing this strategy!! That's a lot of fussing around.
Played for hours on end but slowly lost entire balance never being up for more than probably 5-8 rolls… this one is a pass
Dude! You have hundreds in your house???
Pass and don’t pass, only lost point 12, just put 1/30 cost to 12 will be fine
Why not just go to reward right away because in the recover part of it you are risking 105 to win back your $14. You lose on the back to back points (I threw 2 of those last time I was at the casino back to back. 2 points made in 4 rolls). All you need is 1 on a covered number to win back your $14 instead of risking $105 on the second roll.
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking as well
One I'm protecting the point seven, two I usually have enough for ten shooters. Yes somebody will hit point point on the first roll but I have seen far more point seven then point point plus are far more likely to throw a seven than the point. In his video I think. He only used three shooters
Never rolled more than three numbers between point or seven on a 5 dollar table and still made money. Also if I remove the don't I also remove the placed point. All money on table is profit. Overall us to get my Risk completed of losing anything overwith as soon as possible. I challenge any other system to have money left on the table earning you money at zero risk by the third roll.
@@crapscowboy777 maybe I’m not clear, but let’s look at worse case scenario on the second roll.
Say a 7 comes. The strategy as posted will be up $5 and going directly to reward means it will be down $14. (Didn’t recover the hop 7s loss),
Say a back to back point happens. With the strategy as posted you would be down the $105 plus the $14 loss on the hop 7sIf going right to reward happens you would be just down the hop 7s.
So with the strategy as posted you’re risking 105 on the second roll (with the unprotected dont) just to make back the $14 hop bets.
By going right to reward you’re going to need to hit a $10/$12 place bet to make up the $14 hop bets but not leaving the don’t unprotected
Also with worse case scenario in the strategy as posted you have to make up 105, but if going right to reward you only have to make up $14.
@@crapscowboy777 the strategy is a good one but instead of the recover part of the strat, just go from the risk directly to reward.
Complicated strategies like this give me a Real Headache! One reaso is....The smallest minimum is $15 where I play and only for the Late Night and Early Morning...usually $25...The Other is ...Way to many moving parts at any table with more than 3 or 4 active players and Very Poor comp value....Lastly, I play for my roll.....min bets on the unknown shooters. Thanks !
Craps cowboy here it works on all levels 15 dollar table you start with 315 on the dont and hop 21 on the sevens everything else triple. But it's best on the 25 table if you can afford to lose twice. Long run you make money.
Extremely confusing....
Still do not understand money pit out depending on point.
So you get to the 3rd roll to make money. You showed it at a $5 table. Seems like a hard way to playing free.
And I do not want to see the numbers for Roll 1 & 2 on higher minimum tables.
Also, I believe on the second roll you list $35. You lost 3 hoppers (the other 7 rolled). And then when you finally rolled a point, you list the $14. Then, I believe you won $20 and went to step 3.
If I have that incorrect, my apologies. This comment was made for precision.
Now if only the rolls would have cooperated more. I mean 3 sevens in a row. Ok it shows the hedging of the bets, but if you roll 1 of the hoppers (as you did), you still lose money.
I believe for this strategy, someone is hoping for 2 or 3 on the first roll.
Not looking for profit until third stage. Profit comes on hot shooter throwing numbers.
@@scottsmith9185
Which is pretty much any strategy, but does not require laying out so much money for 2 rolls. Yes. I understand the bets are hedged.
Can save much time and effort establish a point. Put minimum on 5, 6 & 8. Throw 10 in the field. If field hits, then take that 20 for 9 and pick between 4 and 10.
Next win fills last spot and you already making money back.
Let us presume 1p table. So after point is established you will outlay 44. Thus, put a 50 do not pass,so if you lose prior to recover you are good.
Yes, 7 and 11 are losers until point is established.
But if you are hedging all your bets:
- you are not gambling
- you are playing to break even
@@clueless9245 That's why there are so many different strategies. Not everyone is looking for quick riches. Some just want to play for a while. Little at a time.
Nope it sets u up for success, with zero risk on the third roll, you are all set for that hot shooter. I wish he would of gotten back at me before he rolled it. Because if a shooter hits 4 numbers and then the point, I won't bet the pass or don't just ride the shooter with theplace bets that are rusk free. When he sevens out I start over. Problem was he never came close to hot. When he hit the point I still made money betting against it.
Nope it sets u up for success, with zero risk on the third roll, you are all set for that hot shooter. I wish he would of gotten back at me before he rolled it. Because if a shooter hits 4 numbers and then the point, I won't bet the pass or don't just ride the shooter with theplace bets that are rusk free. When he sevens out I start over. Problem was he never came close to hot. When he hit the point I still made money betting against it.
You would have to practice a lot to be good at this one, to many moving parts
🤷♂️ just have to remember you have about $105 in bets to work with. I picked it up rather quickly
Omg, I couldn’t possibly keep up with this strategy.
don't play Strats that you find confusing, the game is hard enough to win at
@@ColorUp Hey, What’s Krak’n Jeremy. I met you at the tables on night at The Atlantis in Reno couple years. Hope everything is good. I see some of your videos were shot at GSR.
Way to many moving parts for a old man!
Just saying.
The thumbs-down is NOT for the video, it's for the STRATEGY!
I don't like it because you are leaving out the Yo, and ONE of the sevens, and there is that remote possibility that one of those 2 numbers COULD come up in the come-out roll!