As you can see in the video, the efforts to raise money to pay for the war were extremely high. But when we read about the stuff that was going on in Winnipeg on 'If-Day', we were really surprised - talk about 'playing' war! Of course, this top-notch high-effort propaganda had quite the impact on the citizens of Winnipeg, because - let´s be honest - who wouldn´t be frightened by any kind of Nazi invasion? And they did not spare any effort to get the details right, too. What is your impression of If-Day? Have you heard of it before? Please let us know in the comments! Cheers, Fiona P.S. If you want to watch the short film starring Donald Duck which Anna mentions in the video, click right here: th-cam.com/video/XNMrMFuk-bo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=8thManDVD.com%E2%84%A2CartoonChannel Please read our rules of conduct before you comment: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518
Thirty-fourth rule of acquisition: War is good for business. Thirty-fifth rule of acquisition: Peace is good for business. You just have to be in the right business.
War bonds were a pretty good investment. I'll never forget back in 1998 or so when I was working a temp job in a bank. This little old lady came in with a massive stack of war bonds from some 50 years ago. I had to look up each one's redemption value and was shocked at the thousands and thousands of dollars those things were worth.
Over the time did she come out ahead in terms of real value ? In the UK during the war wages doubled, and even with a huge decrease in the available items to spend money on, inflation cut the actual value of the money by more than half. War will inevitably be a losing bet for those who have money and are not adroit enough to get it into the few areas that will see huge returns, for the working stiffs wars effect on finances will probably only be marginally worse than peacetime and its management by largely incompetent politicians. Now, if you can get a war going in a far away land, where at least one of the participants will suck in armaments produced in your country and that will need replacing, its a potentially Huge win. Not like anything resembling that state of affairs would ever happen, eh. ;)
A good contrast to Soviet Obligazia, too. The Soviets' never actually paid their bonds back, the whole thing was an extortion racket. To this day, though, they're well-known in Russia as great wallpaper.
At first I thought to myself, “wow Anna is like a little Astrid by the way she talks and expresses herself”. Then I realized they have the same last name lol
I've been excited and curious if the Time Ghost team would cover "If Day". Glad to see and hear that you did! Thank you so much! Keep up the excellent work!
Funny thing. it was filmed in Vancouver. One summer day, I was at Jericho Beach and they had put signs saying this was a set and that the people wearing nazi or imperial Japan costumes were for socio-historical reasons only.
If Day is something I researched while studying at Winnipeg University. It was such a massive effort that was a totally unique and fascinating event that would never be replicated again, but sends shivers down your spine when you watch the old Pathe news reels of the event.
Such a nice episode! Fun fact, Donald Duck was also used for diplomatic relations with Latin America. In Brasil we have the Zé Carioca, a parriot from Rio who is Donald's friend. In Mexico there is Panchito, a rooster, also Donald's friend.
@@fishrenfroeboyd7954 When the war began in '39, Germany was already operating six camps: Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenbürg, Mauthausen and Ravensbrück.
I quite enjoyed this episode of “On the Homefront.” Anna Deinhart’s wonderfully understated irony effectively conveys the fever for war and victory bonds in the 1940’s. Great work!
Hard to compliment how well she did this without coming off patronising, but damn. There was a lot going on this one, I wouldn't want to try and deliver this in my home language. She is seriously rocking it.
My grandparents bought their 360 acre farm in Iowa with the War Bonds they bought during the war. Already Christian they poured everything not needed for surviving into buying bonds. When my grandfather was called up, he put a majority of his pay into bonds, 25% to my grandmother and the rest to his basic needs.
To this day. Canada has some of the most elite special forces on the planet. JTF2 and CSOR. From an Irishman. Would love to vist Canada in the future. I really admire the Canadian people.
@@stevekaczynski3793 Yeah, but the SOviets did have the infamous Obligazia bonds....which they more or less forced people to buy and never redeemed until late in the country's history. A lot of people actually turned theirs into wallpaper in those days.
Your series are awesome, my family fought in WW1, WW2, Korea and I never get tired of learning something new about it!! Thank you and the rest of the normal world!!
It is as wonderful move although they made a mistake Lady MacRobert paid for 5 Planes, not 4 she paid for 4 Fighters named after her son's and a Heavy Bomber (A Short Stirling) that was names MacRoberts Reply
@@jonsouth1545 I don't know how long the bomber lasted but 3 of the fighters were shot down fairly quickly. One or two in the first week of them being delivered to their operation squadron, IIRC.
@@josephking6515 There have been multiple planes with the names even today several of them are still in use as at least two Eurofighters have some of the names
5:41 The Soviets established a similar program for tanks. People could "buy" a tank by paying the costs of its production, and then got to name it or even to crew it (if they enlisted).
@@nickurban6201 One person couldn't, but they organised amongst themselves to fund them (like, an entire village or a factory would fund the tank together).
@@nickurban6201 In the KV-1 they have at Bovington tank museum trey tried to imitate one of the slogans they could give to the tanks, unfortunately they didn't speak Russian so it ended being nonsensical. Still, written correctly it would have been something like "For Leningrad! Women of Leningrad give this to the front!", however they miswrote the message so it literally translates as something like "Leningrad! For. Give this to the Women of Leningrad's Front!"
During the Second World War, the Dominion of Canada had the second largest percentage of it's population in uniform. The first was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
I believe it built the third largest navy in the world too. They were the first _sleeping giant_ but Yamamoto hadn't considered them when he made that remark. The _sleeping giant_ he referred to was still in slumber and would be for another two years *after* the Canadian one awoke.
@@angelonunez8555 No because majority of their forces fought the Soviets and lost about 3 mill or so, having to risk more Germans is very very risky, plus this is Canada were talking about, the same Country that sparked fear on the Germans in WW1. Plus even if they did trie to invade our navy would've sunked them as we were heavily invested on it.
In Canada many companies that were involved in war work went bankrupt after the war, because any money they made selling to the government was taxed off them, and they ended up without enough capital to stay in business.
I'm Haligonian and didn't know that. [edit: "The giant German airliner Hindenburg flew over Nova Scotia on Saturday, 4 July 1936. It appeared to fly low over Halifax and the province in general but especially low over Shelburne, Chester and Hazel Hill."] Well, there you go, thanks for bringing that up!!
@@Oakley902 Defiling centuries of representation as a good luck symbol in numerous cultures, including Native American--when a municipality near me built a town hall in the 1920's, they put tiles on the floor featuring it, to honor the original inhabitants.
The WWII Posters are so cool, especially my favorite spy peering through the plant's leaves! This is a great video share that helped me understand what the big deal was about such bonds.
As a Canadian of Norwegian ancestry, I have always thought If Day was one of the greatest acts of propaganda warfare ever conceived. My father awoke to this exact scenario in 1940. All of a sudden, one morning, the swastika flew over government buildings, the radio station, etc and German troopships and destroyers were in the harbour. The battles in the Norwegian campaign were at sea or far away in Narvik so surprise was almost total. Five years under that hated yoke ensued.
My mum grew up in Surrey, British Columbia and was 13 when the war started. She told some stories about it- like when a neighbor received a telegram informing her that her husband had been killed in Europe; her screams were heard all the way down the street. Or when an Air Raid Warden kicked in her door and yelled at her because light was showing in the front porch window, despite the closest Japanese bomber being four thousand miles away. My dad served in the Battle of The Atlantic and saw many ships and men die, he didn't talk about it for most of his life.
Hi This episode opened up how war times bonds sold... I don't know how you managed to collect old footage and pics... Must be difficult task.. Thanks for your history lesson..🙏
Wow--talk about apples & trees. It's impossible to watch Anna and not see Astrid. My Doppelgänger was apparently my uncle, who died fighting the bad guys in '44, long before I was even born, so I only have the words of those who knew him to go by...and even they are all gone now. How lucky you are, Anna!
@@josephahner3031 Nope - it's just not a big story: it didn't change anything major, and that's what school history is about. I don't know if you're Canadian; if you are, you should know that if there's one thing Canadian governments are good at, it's self-flagellation, so ......
Hmmm - that must have been the part I slept through - was watching it on a plane, and dozed off for a bit ... that said, I thought it was a great film. Not quite as into the hockey players as he was, but ........ If I'm thinking of the right film ... ?
@@Professor_sckinnctn Hmmm ... I think that must have been just after I dozed off ... as I recall, they were still in the locker room - for a VERY long time ... or maybe that was when they came off the ice ... I seem to recall naked men and steam ... I don't think I was dreaming; that would be unusual subject-matter for my dreams, and they are never in black-and-white! That was years ago, so my memory of it is a little fuzzy. I don't suppose you know if that film is available on-line?
@@nozecone The lap. The forks. The lap. The forks. And Citizen Girl! I love the film, maybe too much. It's on the Criterion Channel and for rent on Apple TV. There's also… ahem… some sections of it on TH-cam in Part.
@@Professor_sckinnctn Thanks, I'll have to give it another watch. Even though I fell asleep to it, I do agree it's a great film. It made an impression, although in the intervening years I'd kind of forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me!
Never thought I would hear timeghost discuss my home province of Manitoba! If I were the Nazi's, I'd watch out for the north end of Winnipeg though. They don't call Winnipeg the murder capital of Canada for nothing
A little know detail about If Day is that the German panzers were stopped in their tracks by the potholes strewn about Winnipeg's streets. One by one, they were disabled and left broken, useless hulks while their crews scrambled out and muttered curses to the heavens as they shuffled off in disgust. In recognition of the potholes' valiant service, the city has let them multiply like rabbits.
My ears perked up with the mention of Winnipeg, city of birth and a 20 minute drive away. My german grandparents escaped from East Germany, Leipzig in 1952 and ended up settling north of Winnipeg and starting a market garden. My Opa was also the german equivalent of PhD in Organic Chemistry, he worked for Werhner Von Braun at some point in WW2. He also met my Oma who was a glass blower for laboratory equipment, in a WW2 lab. My Oma and Opa both worked for the inventor of the Panzerfaust, in his factory, also rooming in his home. My great grandfather Oskar Grussendorf died in 1945 by the "officers pill", because he was an SS-Brigadeführer and Generalmajor der Polizei. My Oma told of operating 4 barrel automatic anti-aircraft guns, watching bombers fly over bombing while walking with food stamps to the next village, a cluster firebomb falling through the roof into my then baby Uncle Wolframs crib, etc.
Long history of Germans in Winnipeg, but their stories are very, very different from yours. They came here after the 1848 rebellions were crushed by the fookin' Prussians, without whom there would have been a very different Germany...and no world wars. It was the Prussians, and their strident militarism and their reactionary, authoritarian politics, that most German immigrants to Canada and the US were trying to get away from. I have letters from my great-great-grandfather's brother, written in the late 1850s/early 1860s here in Wisconsin, back home to his cousin in Kröv, begging him to join him in the "great project" creating a fair, open and democratic country. The most eerie thing about these letters is how relevant they are today. He spends pages and pages describing the wretched state of the "pitiful remnant" of the original inhabitants in these parts who have somehow managed to survive, passionately arguing that if we don't fix the terrible wrongs perpetrated against these people, and if we do not end the "intolerable evil of slavery," ensuring that all men will actually be treated equally ("instead of merely acknowledging that we were equally created"), then the new countries of Canada, the US and Mexico would just become the same sort of rigidly controlled hierarchies where the common man "is no more than a beast of burden and the occasional patriotic cannon fodder." The German immigrants of the 1850s were the antithesis of the Germans who came in the 1950s carrying all sorts of Nazi baggage. This latter group was fleeing from the very same things that brought the earlier immigrants here: democracy, freedom, fairness and opportunity--everything that Nazi Germany was not. And none of this is any reflection on you, obviously, as you were no more responsible for your forebear being an SS general who ran the rightfully dreaded secret police than I am for mine being such a stand up guy. The regular, local German police were subordinate to, but largely independent of, the SS, who had their own police forces, the most infamous of which is the Gestapo, but all of which ran out of Himmler's Reichssicherheitsdienstamt (RSDA), the home of such monsters as Heinrich "Gestapo" Mueller, arguably the worst war criminal who ever got away www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/cia-hunt-for-gestapo-chief-mueller.html and other luminaries such as Adolf Eichmann and Reinhard Heydrich, the Hangman of Prague (and high-ranking SS and police official). No, the great wave of 19th century German immigrants was the opposite of all that. My guy finally did convince his cousin to come over. They linked up with like-minded former countrymen in Turnvereine and Bierstuben in Milwaukee, were trained to infiltrate the Confederacy and, despite their pacifist views, to assassinate Jefferson Davis. One died in Andersonville, the other told this story to my grandma (who loved the old man, even if she was always a little freaked out at his missing arm, which he lost to a saber charge when his cousin was captured.)
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 the german side is from my mother and my fathers is of a whole other story of immigration, the low german speaking Mennonites, who started to come to Canada in the 1870's, from Ukraine. They were always leaving countries based on their religious beliefs not jiving with the politics and militarism of the given country. The most conservative of the Mennonites even disagreed with Canadian politics and left to South and Central America in the early 1900's, probably due to The Great War and WW2.
If you consume popular media from the 1940s, you get a very rosy picture of war bonds. It is interesting to see it framed in this way - from marketing, to appeals to patriotism, to scare tactics and even what amounts to an extortion racket re: If-Day. It makes me wonder what that kind of program would look like today, if we pushed a new war bond program.
I can't imagine the fear I would feel had I been in Canada on "If Day". It is an absolutely brilliant marketing campaign back then. There is no way an IF Day would work here in the states because we can whip out our cellphones and check if its real
Really top notch... she's great, and the topic, just like the CO & (all so far) WW2 Real Time vids and the Aussie poster, really such great peices of work; my dad had a friend from high school killed in Europe who was a corpsman; my sister in law grew up in Winnipeg, & has heard of If day. You guys are covering stuff about WW2 I have never heard about or thought of, though into WW2 since I was 5 yo, c. 1963. Can still remember first time our family watched World at War, Sir Larry O, thru History Channel, TH-cam, and now Ghost Army, gotta get one of those posters someday!!
Canada was often used to train RAF aircrews. Michael Ventris, who cracked the ancient Linear B script after the war, was a Bomber Command navigator in WW2 and did much of his training in Canada.
@@waltermc3906 Newfoundland gave up it's Dominion status in 1934 due to money and civil disturbance problems brought on by the Great Depression and from then until it joined Canada in 1949 it was governed by a commission appointed by the British government.
To bad we had British officers leading our military for the most part who are known for promoting by status not by experience and it cost us heavily at Dieppe and Caen
@@ZacharyDarkes Our experiences with British officers in WW1 made us refuse their leadership, when possible, during WW2. A Canadian general named John H. Roberts was in charge at Dieppe and people have not been able to understand why we kept sending in wave after wave of troops to get killed. Only recently has the truth come to light in a book called "One Day In August" from David O'Keefe. It is a very worthwhile read. Basically, the Allies were between a rock and a hard place. The Germans had changed from a three wheel rotor Enigma machine to a four wheel model for their navy and the U boats were running rampant in the North Atlantic again. Previously we had been able to decipher the three wheel Enigma messages at Bletchley Park through Ultra. The whole Dieppe raid was designed to snatch one of the new four rotor Enigma machines from their naval HQ in Dieppe and lay waste the building and surrounding buildings so that they thought it had been destroyed in the fighting. We were basically so desperate that we were willing to take immense casualties to lay our hands on it. Caen and Normandy as a whole was an armoured battle of attrition in the Canadian and British sectors. We faced at least 70% of German armour in Normandy on our three beachheads and maybe more. In fact, the armoured fighting at Sword, Juno and Gold beaches was the heaviest and most concentrated of WW2. Worse even than Kursk in terms of tanks and artillery per square mile. When Montgomery drew up the plans for the Normandy invasion, he realized that the very terrain dictated the Nazi's strategy. The most wide open and boccage free beach was Juno and that was where the Germans would be forced to concentrate the bulk of their armour in a counter-attack to force the Canadians back into the sea and then sweep left and right to roll up Sword, Gold, Utah and Omaha beaches. So if Canada didn't defeat this armoured counter-attack, the D Day landings would fail. But we did beat them albeit at a very high cost. A professor of history at the University of New Brunswick name Marc Milner has written a ground breaking new book on this called "Stopping the Panzers", published in 2014 by the University of Kansas Press. Well worth reading and our troops in both battles were very, very good, but up against a hopelessly hardened port at Dieppe and SS Panzer divisions in Normandy. We prevailed in Normandy and it is the secret to why the Allies won there!
One important benefit of war bonds was not mentioned during the video: They make people invested in winning the war. Losing the war would render the war bonds worthless, which is what happened to German holders of German war bonds after WWI. One alternative to taxes is a form of mandatory war bonds, payment for which is automatically deducted from people's wages.
wow im super surprised ive never heard about this considering how my high school had a major history department with our school being a WW2 memorial and all
I'd be extremely curious to know the part played by teenagers and schools during the war, particularly in places like Canada and the US that were on a war footing but not on the front lines.
During WW2 ( in Winnipeg at the least ) Air, Army, and Sea Cadet units popped up everywhere. many of these units were organized at and by their local high schools.
@@waltermc3906 I am a veteran of The Royal Regiment of Canada. Which had (and still has) affiliated cadet corps. Minimum age to join is 12 years old. The cadet corps are still an excellent source of recruits for The Regiment.
Lügenblatt would translate to Lying (News) Sheet. Lügenpresse means lying press or lying media, which is not exactly the same but has essentially the concept you are trying to communicate. Not sure why they didn´t just call it the Lügenpresse.
I hadnt heard of If DAY. Thanx. I've had an interest (no pun intended, but happily stumbled upon!) in the Homefront since I was little. Ma, born in '35, saw the war thru child's eyes. She would tell me stories of rationing, scrap drives, etc.. Often beginning with "When I was your age..." Thanx Mom, for a life-long interest in WWII.
As you can see in the video, the efforts to raise money to pay for the war were extremely high. But when we read about the stuff that was going on in Winnipeg on 'If-Day', we were really surprised - talk about 'playing' war! Of course, this top-notch high-effort propaganda had quite the impact on the citizens of Winnipeg, because - let´s be honest - who wouldn´t be frightened by any kind of Nazi invasion? And they did not spare any effort to get the details right, too. What is your impression of If-Day? Have you heard of it before? Please let us know in the comments!
Cheers, Fiona
P.S. If you want to watch the short film starring Donald Duck which Anna mentions in the video, click right here: th-cam.com/video/XNMrMFuk-bo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=8thManDVD.com%E2%84%A2CartoonChannel
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I want Anna's Homefront Poster.
Pictures and video of If-day here: nationalpost.com/news/canada/rare-photos-from-if-day-the-time-winnipeg-staged-a-full-scale-nazi-invasion-of-itself
astrid peering through the plant's leaves - is this a clever way to get people to donate to timeghost?
It is one of those things you hear about from time to time when you are 40+ and live in Winnipeg...
Please do an episode on the Ukrainian Insurgent Army
"If the Nazis come you'll be more than sorry!"
Canadians: "Take all my f*cking money!"
*Soorie
"You have no idea" (Loughing in Polish).
Thirty-fourth rule of acquisition: War is good for business.
Thirty-fifth rule of acquisition: Peace is good for business.
You just have to be in the right business.
Yes, Ferengis are nothing if not adaptable.
And location
...at the right time.
Imagine running out of your house cheering the Nazis and crying hurrah and victory and but then.... Finding out it was a bluff
The worst part of this is the fact i only know about this due to a focus of Canada in HOI4
Haha oh yea
lol
War bonds were a pretty good investment. I'll never forget back in 1998 or so when I was working a temp job in a bank. This little old lady came in with a massive stack of war bonds from some 50 years ago. I had to look up each one's redemption value and was shocked at the thousands and thousands of dollars those things were worth.
Over the time did she come out ahead in terms of real value ? In the UK during the war wages doubled, and even with a huge decrease in the available items to spend money on, inflation cut the actual value of the money by more than half. War will inevitably be a losing bet for those who have money and are not adroit enough to get it into the few areas that will see huge returns, for the working stiffs wars effect on finances will probably only be marginally worse than peacetime and its management by largely incompetent politicians. Now, if you can get a war going in a far away land, where at least one of the participants will suck in armaments produced in your country and that will need replacing, its a potentially Huge win. Not like anything resembling that state of affairs would ever happen, eh. ;)
A good contrast to Soviet Obligazia, too. The Soviets' never actually paid their bonds back, the whole thing was an extortion racket. To this day, though, they're well-known in Russia as great wallpaper.
Man. Lived in Canada for my whole life and never heard of "If-Day". That was weird to hear about but really quite interesting.
I knew through Cool Canadian History Podcast, which I recommend.
Same.
I saw the video and it’s just Canadian army acting like the German it shows you what if the nazis invaded Winnipeg
But the nazis never invaded Canada or Winnipeg
@@aladdin1228 yeah that was the interesting part. Didn’t know we had those kinds of propaganda efforts going on
At first I thought to myself, “wow Anna is like a little Astrid by the way she talks and expresses herself”. Then I realized they have the same last name lol
Yes... one of them is the mother of the other.
@@WorldWarTwo but which one?!
@@vinceblasco we may never know
@@stephenn1056 Legend says the truth is hidden in Sparty's mustache
Yeah, just as hard to listen to, unfortunately. It's great they have subtitles for all their videos, though.
If they ran the buy a plane and get to name it today someone is going to name it Planey McPlaneface
Ah yes, democracy.
I was thinking Bombee McBomberFace.
Assigned to Squadron McSquadronface. Because, why not?
Fighty Mcfighterface
Little Bomber Phu-fu.
I've been excited and curious if the Time Ghost team would cover "If Day".
Glad to see and hear that you did! Thank you so much! Keep up the excellent work!
So If-Day is something like The Man in the High Castle, but set in Canada? Hmmm....
I'd watch that show
In TMITHC they filmed the Japanese part on UBC Campus according to my brother who is there
During the Cold War some American towns ran pageants involving an imaginary takeover by Communists. It may have been an updating of Canadian efforts.
Funny thing. it was filmed in Vancouver. One summer day, I was at Jericho Beach and they had put signs saying this was a set and that the people wearing nazi or imperial Japan costumes were for socio-historical reasons only.
I think the real life German Occupation of the British Channel Islands was a good source of information for If-Day.
A big thank you from a Canadian high school history teacher. Well done !
Do they actually teach any real Canadian WW2 history in schools in 2021?
@@wombatwilly1002 Of course :)
If Day is something I researched while studying at Winnipeg University. It was such a massive effort that was a totally unique and fascinating event that would never be replicated again, but sends shivers down your spine when you watch the old Pathe news reels of the event.
An extraordinary marketing campaign for war bonds!
Nothing sells more than fear
Indeed. But i think it has a but of a bad taste to it. I do think its maybe a bit too extreme
Such a nice episode!
Fun fact, Donald Duck was also used for diplomatic relations with Latin America.
In Brasil we have the Zé Carioca, a parriot from Rio who is Donald's friend.
In Mexico there is Panchito, a rooster, also Donald's friend.
@@RobCamp-rmc_0 I watched that film when I was 13 and in a Disney/WW2 historian phase.
Don't forget "Der Fuerher's Face"
Wait, they even had a mock up concentration camp?
Geez, canadians are hardcore.
The Japanese Canadians would like to have a word
a mockup concentration camp FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS xD
How did Canada know what a concentration camp would look like in early 1942?
Concentration camps have been used before the nazis.
@@fishrenfroeboyd7954 When the war began in '39, Germany was already operating six camps: Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenbürg, Mauthausen and Ravensbrück.
Another cracking script. So much talent on the writing team!!!
I quite enjoyed this episode of “On the Homefront.” Anna Deinhart’s wonderfully understated irony effectively conveys the fever for war and victory bonds in the 1940’s. Great work!
Hard to compliment how well she did this without coming off patronising, but damn. There was a lot going on this one, I wouldn't want to try and deliver this in my home language. She is seriously rocking it.
My grandparents bought their 360 acre farm in Iowa with the War Bonds they bought during the war. Already Christian they poured everything not needed for surviving into buying bonds. When my grandfather was called up, he put a majority of his pay into bonds, 25% to my grandmother and the rest to his basic needs.
how much was interest for them? Something like 20-25% per annum?
I have no idea. They used the bonds as a down payment.
Yess! Please talk more about Canada's homefront during the war! More people need to know about the Battle of the St. Lawrence for example!
The care with the scenario, with the posters, the details and everything is so impressive. Astrid is a treasure to humanity.
To this day. Canada has some of the most elite special forces on the planet. JTF2 and CSOR. From an Irishman. Would love to vist Canada in the future. I really admire the Canadian people.
Shout out from Belfast here brother! Love the Dark Tower name BTW. God bless.
You are welcome here. Might have to wait until we're not under lockdown due to the current war... Corona, eh.
Think my Canadian cousins would have kicked the Nazi arses into the middle of the next century. Some of the toughest people on the planet. 🇬🇧🇨🇦
@@m1t2a1 Thank you, I'd love to see Banff National Park.
Canada welcomes all! I’d recommend visiting Alberta, British Columbia, and the plains in Saskatchewan
You could also talk about the Germans who bought "victory bonds" and lost everything... Great video!
Most belligerents encouraged the buying of victory bonds - one exception was the USSR, perhaps because of the different nature of its economy.
@@stevekaczynski3793 Yeah, but the SOviets did have the infamous Obligazia bonds....which they more or less forced people to buy and never redeemed until late in the country's history. A lot of people actually turned theirs into wallpaper in those days.
Yes, difference between war and peace economy is something that needs to be explained more. Thanks for doing so!
Your series are awesome, my family fought in WW1, WW2, Korea and I never get tired of learning something new about it!! Thank you and the rest of the normal world!!
11:11 Turning $4 into $5 over 7 years would be a 3.24% annual rate of return, compounded annually, tax-free. Not bad.
America: Disney cartoons!
Canada: Creates Red Dawn in Winnipeg. “Avenge Meeeee!!!!”
First I was like: I can't remember the glasses on the I-want-you-poster.
A closer look later: damn I need those posters!
Lady MacRobert was a badass!
What a wonderful display of quiet defiance and wit in the face of tragedy and heartache!
It is as wonderful move although they made a mistake Lady MacRobert paid for 5 Planes, not 4 she paid for 4 Fighters named after her son's and a Heavy Bomber (A Short Stirling) that was names MacRoberts Reply
@@jonsouth1545 I don't know how long the bomber lasted but 3 of the fighters were shot down fairly quickly. One or two in the first week of them being delivered to their operation squadron, IIRC.
@@josephking6515 There have been multiple planes with the names even today several of them are still in use as at least two Eurofighters have some of the names
wow i have no idea how as a canadian i never knew this. This is very interesting
Those posters behind... just perfect!
5:41 The Soviets established a similar program for tanks. People could "buy" a tank by paying the costs of its production, and then got to name it or even to crew it (if they enlisted).
Aircraft as well. Towns or even collective farms could sponsor one. A suitable slogan would be painted on the aircraft.
surely the average Soviet person could not afford to fund a tank though, right?
@@nickurban6201 One person couldn't, but they organised amongst themselves to fund them (like, an entire village or a factory would fund the tank together).
@@podemosurss8316 oh cool
@@nickurban6201 In the KV-1 they have at Bovington tank museum trey tried to imitate one of the slogans they could give to the tanks, unfortunately they didn't speak Russian so it ended being nonsensical. Still, written correctly it would have been something like "For Leningrad! Women of Leningrad give this to the front!", however they miswrote the message so it literally translates as something like "Leningrad! For. Give this to the Women of Leningrad's Front!"
they should give you more episodes, you talk with so much inspiration
During the Second World War, the Dominion of Canada had the second largest percentage of it's population in uniform.
The first was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Are you refering to just Allied nations? Surely Germany would have had a greater percentage than Canada.
I believe it built the third largest navy in the world too. They were the first _sleeping giant_ but Yamamoto hadn't considered them when he made that remark. The _sleeping giant_ he referred to was still in slumber and would be for another two years *after* the Canadian one awoke.
@@josephking6515 Many of those were private yachts requisitioned from Canadians or purchased in the still-neutral U.S.
@@angelonunez8555 No because majority of their forces fought the Soviets and lost about 3 mill or so, having to risk more Germans is very very risky, plus this is Canada were talking about, the same Country that sparked fear on the Germans in WW1. Plus even if they did trie to invade our navy would've sunked them as we were heavily invested on it.
War is awful business for everyone but a very few. Getting rich of others misery has always been lucerative for some.
In Canada many companies that were involved in war work went bankrupt after the war, because any money they made selling to the government was taxed off them, and they ended up without enough capital to stay in business.
The hindenburg actually flew over Halifax taking pictures of the dockyard here
I'm Haligonian and didn't know that.
[edit: "The giant German airliner Hindenburg flew over Nova Scotia on Saturday, 4 July 1936. It appeared to fly low over Halifax and the province in general but especially low over Shelburne, Chester and Hazel Hill."]
Well, there you go, thanks for bringing that up!!
@@backalleycqc4790 Google it! It's kinda crazy seeing a giant air ship with a "Certain logo" on it tail flying over the citadel!
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I'm Haligonian and haven't lived in Halifax since 1999, I'm going to have a look! 🌞👍
[edit: WOW! Those pictures are awesome!]
@@backalleycqc4790 and today I learned Haligonian was the demonym for Halifax if I’m reading this right
@@Oakley902 Defiling centuries of representation as a good luck symbol in numerous cultures, including Native American--when a municipality near me built a town hall in the 1920's, they put tiles on the floor featuring it, to honor the original inhabitants.
Excellent presentation Ms. Deinhard. Thankyou for educating me on this little known campaign to raise Canadian war bonds through fear of invasion.
I'm so excited you brought this up! One of my favourite tidbits of Winnipeg's history
If Day...wow. I hadn't ever heard of that one. Thank you for sharing, Anna and Team!
The WWII Posters are so cool, especially my favorite spy peering through the plant's leaves! This is a great video share that helped me understand what the big deal was about such bonds.
As a Canadian of Norwegian ancestry, I have always thought If Day was one of the greatest acts of propaganda warfare ever conceived. My father awoke to this exact scenario in 1940. All of a sudden, one morning, the swastika flew over government buildings, the radio station, etc and German troopships and destroyers were in the harbour. The battles in the Norwegian campaign were at sea or far away in Narvik so surprise was almost total. Five years under that hated yoke ensued.
My mum grew up in Surrey, British Columbia and was 13 when the war started. She told some stories about it- like when a neighbor received a telegram informing her that her husband had been killed in Europe; her screams were heard all the way down the street. Or when an Air Raid Warden kicked in her door and yelled at her because light was showing in the front porch window, despite the closest Japanese bomber being four thousand miles away. My dad served in the Battle of The Atlantic and saw many ships and men die, he didn't talk about it for most of his life.
Hey Charles, thank you for taking the time to share your family's story with us! We sincerely appreciate it.
Yes!! Let's have more Canadian content please!!!
Ms. Deinhard, you are truly hilarious and a brilliant presenter! You should appear more frequently!
I really love this series; covers such a breadth of subjects that can be neglected in looking at war.
Hi
This episode opened up how war times bonds sold...
I don't know how you managed to collect old footage and pics...
Must be difficult task..
Thanks for your history lesson..🙏
Great presentation of a very interesting subject. Good job!
Wow--talk about apples & trees. It's impossible to watch Anna and not see Astrid. My Doppelgänger was apparently my uncle, who died fighting the bad guys in '44, long before I was even born, so I only have the words of those who knew him to go by...and even they are all gone now. How lucky you are, Anna!
I had no idea that there had been a simulated invasion of Winnipeg. Never taught that in history class, and I live in Canada
Yeah, this is on the level of a Mark Feltons' "woha I didn't know that even happened" things.
Well, let's face it: in the grand scheme of things, it's not terribly important.
Probably because it was awful, a violation of human rights, and the Canadian government doesn't want to be seen as using Nazi level propaganda.
@@josephahner3031 Nope - it's just not a big story: it didn't change anything major, and that's what school history is about. I don't know if you're Canadian; if you are, you should know that if there's one thing Canadian governments are good at, it's self-flagellation, so ......
Guy Maddin did a great job covering If Day in his film My Winnipeg. Well worth watching!
Hmmm - that must have been the part I slept through - was watching it on a plane, and dozed off for a bit ... that said, I thought it was a great film. Not quite as into the hockey players as he was, but ........ If I'm thinking of the right film ... ?
@@nozecone Absolultely! The old guys, getting back into the arena. The horse heads!! Great film.
@@Professor_sckinnctn Hmmm ... I think that must have been just after I dozed off ... as I recall, they were still in the locker room - for a VERY long time ... or maybe that was when they came off the ice ... I seem to recall naked men and steam ... I don't think I was dreaming; that would be unusual subject-matter for my dreams, and they are never in black-and-white! That was years ago, so my memory of it is a little fuzzy. I don't suppose you know if that film is available on-line?
@@nozecone The lap. The forks. The lap. The forks.
And Citizen Girl!
I love the film, maybe too much.
It's on the Criterion Channel and for rent on Apple TV. There's also… ahem… some sections of it on TH-cam in Part.
@@Professor_sckinnctn Thanks, I'll have to give it another watch. Even though I fell asleep to it, I do agree it's a great film. It made an impression, although in the intervening years I'd kind of forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me!
Bing Crosby's songs about buying bonds are pretty persuasive, honestly.
Never thought I would hear timeghost discuss my home province of Manitoba!
If I were the Nazi's, I'd watch out for the north end of Winnipeg though. They don't call Winnipeg the murder capital of Canada for nothing
Well done. A great subject about which you usually hear little.
Brilliant episode, thank you
These last two On the Homefront eps. have been very good concentration on history about WW2 rather than mentioning it in passing.
A little know detail about If Day is that the German panzers were stopped in their tracks by the potholes strewn about Winnipeg's streets. One by one, they were disabled and left broken, useless hulks while their crews scrambled out and muttered curses to the heavens as they shuffled off in disgust.
In recognition of the potholes' valiant service, the city has let them multiply like rabbits.
excellent video.. being a canuck myself..i did not know that.. thank you for the research and work in this video. Fiona rocks!
Very well done!!! Proud to support the WW2 Channel and the TimeGhost Army.
Vielen dank für die gute arbeit, Anna und Timeghost
Thank you - for the nice comment _and_ your membership!
I had not seen this video yet, absolutely well done, well told, well researched !
Thank you! ❤️
I'd never heard of "IF Day" until now.
This is fascinating.
My ears perked up with the mention of Winnipeg, city of birth and a 20 minute drive away. My german grandparents escaped from East Germany, Leipzig in 1952 and ended up settling north of Winnipeg and starting a market garden. My Opa was also the german equivalent of PhD in Organic Chemistry, he worked for Werhner Von Braun at some point in WW2. He also met my Oma who was a glass blower for laboratory equipment, in a WW2 lab. My Oma and Opa both worked for the inventor of the Panzerfaust, in his factory, also rooming in his home. My great grandfather Oskar Grussendorf died in 1945 by the "officers pill", because he was an SS-Brigadeführer and Generalmajor der Polizei. My Oma told of operating 4 barrel automatic anti-aircraft guns, watching bombers fly over bombing while walking with food stamps to the next village, a cluster firebomb falling through the roof into my then baby Uncle Wolframs crib, etc.
Long history of Germans in Winnipeg, but their stories are very, very different from yours. They came here after the 1848 rebellions were crushed by the fookin' Prussians, without whom there would have been a very different Germany...and no world wars. It was the Prussians, and their strident militarism and their reactionary, authoritarian politics, that most German immigrants to Canada and the US were trying to get away from.
I have letters from my great-great-grandfather's brother, written in the late 1850s/early 1860s
here in Wisconsin, back home to his cousin in Kröv, begging him to join him in the "great project" creating a fair, open and democratic country. The most eerie thing about these letters is how relevant they are today. He spends pages and pages describing the wretched state of the "pitiful remnant" of the original inhabitants in these parts who have somehow managed to survive, passionately arguing that if we don't fix the terrible wrongs perpetrated against these people, and if we do not end the "intolerable evil of slavery," ensuring that all men will actually be treated equally ("instead of merely acknowledging that we were equally created"), then the new countries of Canada, the US and Mexico would just become the same sort of rigidly controlled hierarchies where the common man "is no more than a beast of burden and the occasional patriotic cannon fodder."
The German immigrants of the 1850s were the antithesis of the Germans who came in the 1950s carrying all sorts of Nazi baggage. This latter group was fleeing from the very same things that brought the earlier immigrants here: democracy, freedom, fairness and opportunity--everything that Nazi Germany was not. And none of this is any reflection on you, obviously, as you were no more responsible for your forebear being an SS general who ran the rightfully dreaded secret police than I am for mine being such a stand up guy.
The regular, local German police were subordinate to, but largely independent of, the SS, who had their own police forces, the most infamous of which is the Gestapo, but all of which ran out of Himmler's Reichssicherheitsdienstamt (RSDA), the home of such monsters as Heinrich "Gestapo" Mueller, arguably the worst war criminal who ever got away www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/cia-hunt-for-gestapo-chief-mueller.html and other luminaries such as Adolf Eichmann and Reinhard Heydrich, the Hangman of Prague (and high-ranking SS and police official).
No, the great wave of 19th century German immigrants was the opposite of all that. My guy finally did convince his cousin to come over. They linked up with like-minded former countrymen in Turnvereine and Bierstuben in Milwaukee, were trained to infiltrate the Confederacy and, despite their pacifist views, to assassinate Jefferson Davis. One died in Andersonville, the other told this story to my grandma (who loved the old man, even if she was always a little freaked out at his missing arm, which he lost to a saber charge when his cousin was captured.)
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 the german side is from my mother and my fathers is of a whole other story of immigration, the low german speaking Mennonites, who started to come to Canada in the 1870's, from Ukraine. They were always leaving countries based on their religious beliefs not jiving with the politics and militarism of the given country. The most conservative of the Mennonites even disagreed with Canadian politics and left to South and Central America in the early 1900's, probably due to The Great War and WW2.
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 Very interesting!
Did they get Wolfram out?
1:01 - Factory worker checking out a newly manufactured Bren gun.
"How romantic!" -Anna Dienhard
Anna's narration was great this episode! Reminds me of Sparty
Sparty is going to have to up his game.
my favorite sub series!
What's your favorite battleship series? Lol
superb! thank you all so very much!
A common theme for propaganda for war bonds where “Invest in victory”
A fascinating coverage of this issue - thank you!👍👍👍
We're glad you enjoyed the episode Linn!
If you consume popular media from the 1940s, you get a very rosy picture of war bonds. It is interesting to see it framed in this way - from marketing, to appeals to patriotism, to scare tactics and even what amounts to an extortion racket re: If-Day. It makes me wonder what that kind of program would look like today, if we pushed a new war bond program.
I can't imagine the fear I would feel had I been in Canada on "If Day". It is an absolutely brilliant marketing campaign back then. There is no way an IF Day would work here in the states because we can whip out our cellphones and check if its real
One of the best OTHF episodes yet. Well done.
Fabulous performance Anna. Super entertaining episode. Im not usually into economics but that was an interesting insight
Really top notch... she's great, and the topic, just like the CO & (all so far) WW2 Real Time vids and the Aussie poster, really such great peices of work; my dad had a friend from high school killed in Europe who was a corpsman; my sister in law grew up in Winnipeg, & has heard of If day. You guys are covering stuff about WW2 I have never heard about or thought of, though into WW2 since I was 5 yo, c. 1963. Can still remember first time our family watched World at War, Sir Larry O, thru History Channel, TH-cam, and now Ghost Army, gotta get one of those posters someday!!
Canada was often used to train RAF aircrews. Michael Ventris, who cracked the ancient Linear B script after the war, was a Bomber Command navigator in WW2 and did much of his training in Canada.
The perspective that ammunition eliminates Money is super interesting. Never thought about that
Excellent video, excellent hostess!!!
Boy I feel a strong need to buy a war bond now, shame I can't find a seller.
Hell yea. Love a homefront episode. Nice job.
I like Anna's look today. Somehow gives me a bit of that Royal feel with that necklace and earrings!
Who is Anna?
The picture you had for Canada included Newfoundland. Newfoundland wasn't a part of Canada until after the war. It was still part of the UK.
Actually during the war Newfoundland was its own nation.
@@waltermc3906 Newfoundland gave up it's Dominion status in 1934 due to money and civil disturbance problems brought on by the Great Depression and from then until it joined Canada in 1949 it was governed by a commission appointed by the British government.
I love the Timeghost Army war posters in the background.
I love your presentation style!😀
Interesting and informative video, but having a ad placed by TH-cam every 2 1/2 minutes was very disruptive.
Canada was a BEAST during WWII
For our size, we certainly were! A population of about 11,000,000 put over a million in uniform!
To bad we had British officers leading our military for the most part who are known for promoting by status not by experience and it cost us heavily at Dieppe and Caen
@@ZacharyDarkes Our experiences with British officers in WW1 made us refuse their leadership, when possible, during WW2.
A Canadian general named John H. Roberts was in charge at Dieppe and people have not been able to understand why we kept sending in wave after wave of troops to get killed. Only recently has the truth come to light in a book called "One Day In August" from David O'Keefe. It is a very worthwhile read. Basically, the Allies were between a rock and a hard place. The Germans had changed from a three wheel rotor Enigma machine to a four wheel model for their navy and the U boats were running rampant in the North Atlantic again. Previously we had been able to decipher the three wheel Enigma messages at Bletchley Park through Ultra. The whole Dieppe raid was designed to snatch one of the new four rotor Enigma machines from their naval HQ in Dieppe and lay waste the building and surrounding buildings so that they thought it had been destroyed in the fighting. We were basically so desperate that we were willing to take immense casualties to lay our hands on it.
Caen and Normandy as a whole was an armoured battle of attrition in the Canadian and British sectors. We faced at least 70% of German armour in Normandy on our three beachheads and maybe more. In fact, the armoured fighting at Sword, Juno and Gold beaches was the heaviest and most concentrated of WW2. Worse even than Kursk in terms of tanks and artillery per square mile. When Montgomery drew up the plans for the Normandy invasion, he realized that the very terrain dictated the Nazi's strategy. The most wide open and boccage free beach was Juno and that was where the Germans would be forced to concentrate the bulk of their armour in a counter-attack to force the Canadians back into the sea and then sweep left and right to roll up Sword, Gold, Utah and Omaha beaches. So if Canada didn't defeat this armoured counter-attack, the D Day landings would fail. But we did beat them albeit at a very high cost. A professor of history at the University of New Brunswick name Marc Milner has written a ground breaking new book on this called "Stopping the Panzers", published in 2014 by the University of Kansas Press. Well worth reading and our troops in both battles were very, very good, but up against a hopelessly hardened port at Dieppe and SS Panzer divisions in Normandy. We prevailed in Normandy and it is the secret to why the Allies won there!
Contributions massively disproportionate to its population, that’s for sure.
That Indy poster is so interesting
Thank you for including Canada in your bonds episode. The war was a huge event in the lives of Canadians but hardly known outside of Canada.
Quite fascinating - I am a casual WW2 buff but this isn't something that I had really thought about.
Keep up the great stuff
One important benefit of war bonds was not mentioned during the video: They make people invested in winning the war. Losing the war would render the war bonds worthless, which is what happened to German holders of German war bonds after WWI. One alternative to taxes is a form of mandatory war bonds, payment for which is automatically deducted from people's wages.
wow im super surprised ive never heard about this considering how my high school had a major history department with our school being a WW2 memorial and all
10:55 - Canada annexed Juneau... LOL
I like the touch of everyone's favourite Spymistress' poster hiding behind the pot plant there!
Brilliant, on the home front videos rock
12.40 Canada spent about 16 Billion 1945 USD on WWII. As I understand it.
I'd be extremely curious to know the part played by teenagers and schools during the war, particularly in places like Canada and the US that were on a war footing but not on the front lines.
During WW2 ( in Winnipeg at the least ) Air, Army, and Sea Cadet units popped up everywhere. many of these units were organized at and by their local high schools.
bro i literally just found your channel and now i see you here
@@waltermc3906 I am a veteran of The Royal Regiment of Canada. Which had (and still has) affiliated cadet corps. Minimum age to join is 12 years old. The cadet corps are still an excellent source of recruits for The Regiment.
Teenagers were urged to spend summer vacation on farms, helping to harvest the crops.
16:44 Das Winnipeger Lugenblatt - I see what they did there. Clever.
Lügenblatt would translate to Lying (News) Sheet. Lügenpresse means lying press or lying media, which is not exactly the same but has essentially the concept you are trying to communicate. Not sure why they didn´t just call it the Lügenpresse.
well done video on the pressure on the 'home front' tp contribute $$$ to the war effort in addition to sacrifice due to rationing
That poster reminds me of "Only a factory girl" by Rosie M Banks 😂
I hadnt heard of If DAY. Thanx. I've had an interest (no pun intended, but happily stumbled upon!) in the Homefront since I was little. Ma, born in '35, saw the war thru child's eyes. She would tell me stories of rationing, scrap drives, etc.. Often beginning with "When I was your age..." Thanx Mom, for a life-long interest in WWII.