So you might be wondering... where is my tie? Why on earth is Spartacus appearing in leisure wear suddenly? And wait a minute... isn’t that a Fred Perry shirt like the Proud Boys, and skinheads wear? So let’s answer that: as for the styling; watch some old films with PR guys, and advertising agency folk in them, or if nothing else Mad Men - already in the forties the “blazer and tennis shirt” look became a mainstay in advertising circles... it also happens to be my goto leisure wear. As for Fred Perry - absolutely! I’ve been wearing FP since I was a wee little punk doing mischief on the streets of Paris in the 1980s, and I’m not about to stop because some boneheaded fascist fanboys decide it’s theirs - it’s just as much a symbol of the hardcore jazz scene, rappers, sport personalities with style, and what have you. To the contrary: especially _because_ extremists have tried to appropriate it as their sign, we need to take it away from them, so that it doesn’t become a part of their propaganda toolbox. That’s all I have to say today... enjoy the video.
I don't know if I would call the proud boys fascists, just knuckleheads out to cause trouble. If you asked them what their ideology is they would say "Murica!". Can tell you've lost weight over the last year, you're looking great!
I don't agree with the point on reparations. It was one of the factors that aided in Hitler's side - and it compounded other factors, like harming a post-war German economy that meant the recession hit harder. Yes, Germany did deserve to face punishment for what it did, but what happened was far too harsh. Versailles was too harsh. And Versailles was one of the long term causes of the conflict that this channel is named for.
@@adamlee2550 that’s why I said “fascist fanboys” and thank you! In have lost some weight after changing my diet radically last summer. Although this done-blue (close to raw) steak lover will never give up meat if not under extreme duress, I’m as close to vegetarian without becoming one you can get.
@@coling3957 Also helped bring us to the democracy today though so... Progress is often stained with blood, unfortunately, we are but simple stupid apes.
@@coling3957 There were so many various influences going in and out of style during the revolution that you can hardly blame anti-monarchist sentiment for everything. The largest threat to a revolutionary was another revolutionary. It was a turbulent time.
@@coling3957 The other side of this story is that France was at war with Austria, Prussia and Britain. War to destroy revolution and to restore monarchy and the old order. Many of the guillotined were literal 5th column. The only question was whose head will be chopped off in the end - aristocracy or revolutionaries.
The Edward Bernays info really blew me away. First I ever heard of him. And here I was giving all the credit to goebbles. Thankyou for straightening me out. Bernays really opened a can of worms with that idea. We're still living under that bridge.
Yet, plenty of people will defend Bernay by claiming that he was different in that he wanted to lie to the masses to achieve "good ends." Just another bastard with no principles who thought he was better than everybody else. If someone tries to manipulate you with lies they are your enemy, do not let them try to get away by claiming "it was for a good cause."
I was going to try to describe it, but I guess I'll just let Adam Curtis describe the work himself: "This series is about how those in power have used Freud's theories to try and control the dangerous crowd in an age of mass democracy." Bernays' work (if one can call it that) is largely the subject of the first film.
@@jayr7890 Well, he could technically still run in 2024 and honestly, once was enough for a lifetime. On top of that, he and his followers really make a perfect case study on the subject of propaganda in the 2010s.
@@jirkazalabak1514 naw, we need more like him. And take a good look at yourself. The MSM has such a tight hold on you people, you will believe literally anything they tell you. Lol all you people know how to do is point the other finger and accuse the other side of exactly what you're doing and it's hilarious.
To jump ahead, at the Casablanca Conference in 1943 FDR demanded the Axis' Unconditional Surrender primarily to leave no room for another stab-in-the-back myth to grow.
It may have influenced the growth of the Allied bombing campaign. Certainly the inability to stop German cities from being bombed suggested to many Germans that they were losing the war.
FDR limited the U.S military to a total of 90 Divisions with 6 marine divisions so he really had no say in the matter. It was because of this that it was left to the Soviet Union to decide the scale of Germany's defeat. By capping the U.S to less than 100 Divisions that sickly stupid old man didn't give the U.S army the manpower to win the War without being dependant on events on the Eastern Front. It was because of FDR's stupidity that the Soviets were able to takeover half of Europe and the U.S didn't have the manpower to do anything more than to deter them from taking over the rest of Europe. Stalin would never have pushed into Poland if he was facing an American army of 12 million men in Europe.
@@shanejones6955 Yep. But maybe those 12 million Americans would have committed atrocities. You forget fascism originated in America from how they treated American Indians. Moreover the financial burden on America would have set up for our failure in ways unforeseen. It's unfortunate, but capitalism always leads to fascism, racism, division, and a focus on sex crimes to keep the public from asking questions about their labor being stolen. I am excited for what's to come in a generation with the internet
Yes, couldn't help but think about the persistent myth put about by the Trumpists that the 2020 election was stolen - shades of 'stab in the back'. We now even have a senior retired US general (Flynn) advocating a coup d'etat 'like in Myanmar - if it can happen in Myanmar it can be done here'. As you say, those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. And there's far too much complacency around the resurgence of the really nasty Right. Don't let's deceive ourselves that Fascism and worse couldn't happen now as it's all 70 or 80 years ago in black and white film - another world in other words. It COULD happen now and the omens are not good.
@@hreader , disturbed by the fact I seem to be sofar the only up voter so far. But I do hope the majority of Americans will resist the madness of the far right and the far left, not that I can find any much activity on the far left.
Your saying there is plenty of ignorance out there today, cause you ignore how much ignorance there was before. Take a look at religion. Was there a time where more people were not ignorant to an idea that the religion they were learning in their youth is the only true one? And if you want an example from USA, take a look if a current generation trusts media as they did 25 years ago.
That area resembles the Battle of the Atlantic in a few ways: 1) It was the difference between victory and defeat for the Allies in that theatre. 2) The amount of boring details, logistical challenges and supply rates prevent it from being as interesting as WWII battles. That's unfortunate because the US logistic revolution was at least as impressive as blitzkrieg tactics but doesn't hold the interest.
First time I have seen a serious dissertation on this subject. Much love to you, Astrid, Anna , Indie and the crew behind you guys and gals. Goebbles proudly displayed Herr Bernays' books on his desk and bookshelf. Well documented. Do your homework.
This is a great video - probably one of the most important that this channel has produced. Important still for anyone growing up in this day and age to watch and take lessons from.
"...by inserting messages of hatred and division." I see so much of this today, from both sides of the political divide. Outright terrifying to see people claim that they fight against such poisonous ideals while engaging in the very same openly and continuously.
How adorable, we have one of those "antifa are fascist" folks. You should look into the Paradox of Tolerance to understand how what you said is utter BS.
@@Void_Wars I'm not comparing him to masks lol. Simply pointing out that literally anyone can do this type of propaganda these days with the advent of social media. I'm literally having to help my parents sift through all the bullshit because they are too old and too tired, they grew up with no social media, like 4 channels, and an evening news hour which actually just did pure journalistic reporting (no opinion shows). They are completely overwhelmed, and are a very susceptible demographic to a lot of the nonsense that folks like you and I can see right through.
It’s also very important to note that the “unfair treaty” that was thrown upon Germany wasn’t really that bad. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk would’ve seen much more land taken from Russia and (I’m fairly certain) equal or harsher war reparations.
While I agree that the Versailles treay wasn't particularly punitive on Germany, the Brest-Litovsk comparison argument always has stuck me as odd. The areas taken away in the BL treaty were all inhabited by minorities wanting to be independent, as shown by the fact that all but Ukraine did stay independent (and the Ukrainians did try) between ww1 and ww2 and all of them are independent now. In that sense they were colonies of the Russian empire. If you count colonies, Germany lost 85% of its territory and yet nobody does that calculation for obvious reasons. In addition the BL-treaty was as punititve as it is because the Soviets negotiated in bad faith for weeks and then pulled out without a deal, severely worsening their negotiation position (at Versailles the Germans never got to participate in negotiations in the first place). Lastly, BL-treat had a 300 million gold mark reparation clause while the Versailles one did not even specify a fixed sum which is obviously horrible from a motivation perspective, because why pay down on an infinite loan (Germany ended up paying around 21 billion in total apparently).
@@Christian-sm9he Those areas lost by Russia as a result of BL were ceded directly to Germany and the Central Powers allies. They didn't achieve independence through BL, but by the defeat of the Central Powers. Ukraine was "nominally" given independence by BL, but de facto became a puppet state under the Central Powers. The reparations levied against the Central Powers, and notably Germany, were indeed unparalleled, but so too was the damage inflicted, much of it deliberately in the form of "scorched earth" policies, to those nations upon who's soil the war was fought. The amount of reparations paid by Germany was indeed a lot less than was actually decided upon, but was always, from the outset, conditional on her being able to pay. The amount repaid was, it should be noted, less than half the 50bn GM amount Germany had _offered_ to pay on 24 April 1921. Another interesting calculation for you : In 1914, the area of Germany was 208,825 square miles. in 1918, Russia was forced to cede around 1,000,000 square miles of territory.
@@bolivar2153 The text in the BL treaty says: "Territories lying to the west of the line agreed upon by the contracting parties which formerly belonged to Russia, will no longer be subject to Russian sovereignty; the line agreed upon is traced on the map submitted as an essential part of this treaty of peace. The exact fixation of the line will be established by a Russo-German commission. No obligations whatever toward Russia shall devolve upon the territories referred to, arising from the fact that they formerly belonged to Russia. Russia refrains from all interference in the internal relations of these territories. Germany and Austria-Hungary purpose to determine the future status of these territories in agreement with their population." So at per the text they did not annex any territory whatsoever (and as far as I know they never issued any declaration of annexation separately from the treaty either). What this would have meant in practice if the central powers hadn't lost the war? Well your guess is as good as mine. On the reparations: not sure you are arguing with me. All I was trying to say is that the original comments comparison of the BL reparations vs Versailles reparations is objectively wrong and that by a mile. Lastly, in your little calculation you are doing exactly what I criticize: all Russian colonies (including places like Kars that got annexed only in 1878) are counted as territory lost by Russia, while the German colonies don't even turn up in the calculation by some bizarre wet feet while walking from capital rule. Interesting fact: if you count the colonies Germany was also forced to cede around 1,000,000 square miles of territory. But there we all accept that there is no right to keep colonies ...
@@Christian-sm9he The fate of the territories ceded by Russia to the Central Powers requires no guessing. The Septemberprogramm of 1914 is quite specific as to the nature of the regimes to established there and their ultimate purpose (and was the reason for the punitive nature of BL and not as a result of the actions of Trotsky and the Russian negotiators). All that happened is that those territories swapped one colonial master for another under a different flag. The chance for freedom and independence came with the defeat of Germany and the Central Powers, not Russia. Whilst you're reading up on the Septemberprogramm, why not take into account the nature of the peace that was to be imposed by Germany in the event of victory, and compare it with Versailles for comparison? There is no real requirement to compare it with BL, which was simply the implementation of the Septemberprogramm in the East. As you say, Versailles was not particularly punitive towards Germany, especially in relation to both BL and the Septemberprogramm. The usual argument levelled in favour of Germany is that "we don't know what they would have done in the event of victory, since they didn't win". However, BL shows clearly that even as late as 1918, the Septemberprogramm of 1914 was very much still on the agenda for implementation.
This sounds so much like today. Anti vaccine immediately jumps to mind. Other things as well, but in the North American news, this seems to be dominant right now.
Yeah, well for me it’s the group of people saying I’m a killer and want to take my job and quality of life just for not following their rules that spring to mind.
I disagree with your rhetoric on the Versailles, even Keynes thought that Versailles was poorly drafted, reparations were cruel, and this treaty would eventually bring another war.
The record does not hold up that opinion to have become fact. Also, consider this: the terms at the end of WW2 were much harsher, and they were more heavily enforced - yet Germany is now one of the most peaceful nations on earth.
If you want to read more about this, I highly recommend Victor Klemperer's "The Language of the Third Reich" (also known simply as LTI, for Lingua Tertii Imperii). He experienced this perversion of the language at first hand and took notes; somehow both the author and his notes survived the war.
He was in the Dresden firestorm. He was scheduled for deportation but somehow managed to escape the fire. He was able to take off his yellow star of David and mingle with other refugees and eventually wound up in a small village by the end of the war. One of the few people that the destruction of Dresden saved rather than killed. See I Will Bear Witness Viktor Klemperer Diaries 1942-45.It gives you a day to idea of what it was like to be a Jew in Nazi Germany. He only survived as long as he did because he was married to a Christian so it was a "privileged" marriage. Also this was told in the book Stargardt The German War.
@@caryblack5985 honsi.org/svejk/?page=11&lang=en Another survivor was Hans Bigler. He was the real-life model for the know-it-all Cadet Biegler in Jaroslav Hasek's "The Good Soldier Svejk". The Dresden bombing destroyed his documents - Bigler was at least half-Jewish, and his father was killed in Bergen-Belsen camp in 1944.
I would argue that Propaganda has always had a sinister meaning, it's just rarely acknowledged as being the thoroughly dishonest manipulation it has always been.
Can’t help but see some likeness in how Putin invaded Ukraine and then used to sanctions as proof that Russia is the victim even if the only reasons for sanctions is Russias aggression now and in the previous invasion of 2014. Also in how the country needs to once again take its place as a superpower in order to stay alive. Not to mention saying he is defending the Russian speakers in Other countries like how Hitler claimed to be defending German speakers in Sudetenland etc.
The “Stab in the Back” claim always reminds me of the assertion that the USA could have won the Vietnam War, but (inexplicably) chose not to. This canard was very popular in America in the 1970s and 80s, and into the 90s. It never had facts behind it, but neither did Germany’s “Stab in the Back.”
Huh, that's interesting and I've never heard of it. But considering some of the rhetoric I've heard regarding Afghanistan, it's not surprising. Especially since war is something America is used to (or perhaps fond of) and they rarely lose military. So if they do lose, it's not because their weak, inificent or unprepared, its because they were betrayed or screwed over by their true enemies (enter popular group for conspiricy theories, commies, Jews, ect)
@@scottkrater2131 Once again I bring up Afghanistan who was wildly corrupt and had more soldiers and equipment on paper than actually had. South Vietnam and Afghanistan became dependent on America for protection and most likely tried to skim as much of the top as possible. I'm glad Ukraine has learned from their earlier corruption in the military and adapted to western military doctrine with a united front and great leader.
@@scottkrater2131 The USA nearly bankrupted itself paying for the Vietnam War, and dropped more bombs than the total used by all sides in World War II. It killed four million Vietnamese people. The claim that the USA never tried to win militarily has no merit.
Excellent and very informative. I say if you don't want to wear a tie when presenting these videos then don't wear a tie! Thank you for the explanation of your garb for this video. I really hadn't noticed that you were not in a suit as I was enjoying all the information that you were presenting. Thank you for another great video.
@@brucer4170 What minority group did Trump exterminate to get their money then? Your making stuff up just to prove your point. Trump cut himself from those who tried to use force to change the elections. And still people who did this are called Trumpists. It just proves that people know very little about history of politics in other countries and are only interested in the few extreme examples. Ive seen several accusations that elections were not legal in the past 15 years. And they all ended with nothing but small scale protests. And its the same in all western democracies. Mistrust is what makes a democratic society healthy.
Everyone has inherent values (good or bad) in relation to human rights and a measure of their own interpretations of what these values are. When a whole nation,no matter the indoctrinations/propaganda, have given up their rights to be included as a normal humanitarian member of the human race,then in this case, the vast majority of the populous of this nation are complicit in this evil doctrine perprepated by the Nazi's,which was freely accepted and shamelessly complied with. There is no excuse,none at all, too those who accepted and propogated /applied this evil.
@@_Luluko_ Think critically about history... the exploitation of non-European peoples by Europeans goes back to the Spanish and Portuguese explorers first landing in Africa and the New World. And America has always been systemically racist... we are just becoming more aware of it now because the idea that African-Americans are just as much people as whites is finally starting to sink into the public consciousness.
@@_Luluko_ What part of what I wrote says anything negative about whites? That African-Americans are just as much people who have the same amount of value and should have the same opportunity? The historical fact that Europeans, and those of European ancestry, for centuries, exploited the labor and natural resources of those who are not? That our entire society has been built on the blood, sweat, and tears of African-Americans while repeatedly denying both their humanity and the same opportunity for improvement that whites (normally) had?
@@_Luluko_ ⬆️⬆️⬆️ Full of racist tropes and pointless deflection. Don't worry, just because people of color will be getting their full, legal rights finally applied, doesn't mean your rights will shrink as a result.
A wise man once told me the world is full of people trying to sell you on all kinds of bullshit. “Don’t just listen to what they say.” He told me. “Look at what they do, look at who they are, and then ask yourself ‘do those two things jive?’ If not, they’re selling snake oil.” Such simple advice, and yet so hard for so many people to follow, especially when they have more riding on the lie than the truth.
I learned about this in an abnormal psychology book, make the people think like their leader. Tell them lies, dehumanize the enemy, and say that „We had to do it because [insert alibi].“
@@spartacus-olsson Thank you for responding, very humbled. Your suits are excellent and your choice selection is perfect, this show has made me buy ties and now have over 50 different ties. And 2 or 3 suits but you my man, make me want to go out and buy a very similar suit to yours. You always look epic and I believe we have similar styles. So I will look epic with you!
These kinds of episodes always throw up some interesting comments. I see a duality in them of both sides (left and right) saying "this is what they're doing" but never getting past populist soundbites. I worry that the warnings of the first episode, the dangers of an "us vs them" mentality has gone on deaf ears for far too many. I think it's important that we as a society stop trying to change everyone else for a second and see how we can change ourselves to stop seeing our political rivals as "them."
It’s hard not to be against a ideology that wants to strip you of your right to work, go to restaurants, and allows the police to brutalize you for going out past a certain hour
As the French Enlightenment writer, historian, and philosopher, François-Marie Arouet (perhaps better known by his nom du plume Voltaire, famous for his staunch criticism of Christianity-most particular the Roman Catholic Church-as well as his strong advocacy of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the separation of church and state, once said it: "Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" and "The mirror is a worthless invention. The only way to truly see yourself is in the reflection of someone else’s eyes." This is true of not only the Nazis, but the whole of the Axis Powers. They saw themselves as liberators. In the eyes of others, not so much.
For all intent and purposes the treaty of Versailles was tame compared to the treaties of Saint Germain, Sevres and Trianon. If France has gotten their way, Germany will be looking more like post WW1 borders of Austria, Hungary and the theoretical dismembering of the Ottoman Empire.
Why does the link to advertising not surprise me. Advertising is so manipulative that it makes my blood boil sometimes. Especially at a time when consumption needs to be lowered if we are to sustain any kind of modern civilization on this planet.
Hahahaha! Regurgitated from the start of last century. Grow up and look back at all the failed "sky is falling" scenarios. Yeah, I know. "This time it's different." Hahahajaha!
In case someone hasn't mentioned it already, I believe that is Joseph Cotton with Ingrid Bergman at 15:14. Cotton was the protagonist in the movie and is out to prove Bergman's character isn't insane. Charles Boyer played the husband accused of gaslighting her, so his character would have represented the Nazis.
Super interesting video. I love that you also go further and not just cover the fighting and also what's happening behind the front, how it happened and why. Its especially important in this war
As usual I quite enjoy your portion of videos Spartacus, particularly when they go much deeper into certain concepts such as here with the Dolchstoßlegende. Furthermore, it helps a lot that you pronounce the German properly when reading out these quotes. Well done, keep up the good work.
@@spartacus-olsson i also love the wartime-esque posters behind you that have Time Ghost sayings! Very creative! Your set design is always on point and really sets the mood for your videos!
How well would that stab in the back line work had the Great War lasted into 1919 and the Germans were pushed back into Germany before surrendering? They keep harping on how they were still occupying parts of France and Belgium but they neglect to say that the German Army was pretty much out of reserves after the 1918 Offensive. Then again, the truth has a hard time fitting into politics.
Had that happened then it is likely that Germany would have become communist as the forces that defeated the Spartacists in 1919/20 would have been destroyed. The continuation of the war would also likely have led to much stronger left wing reaction in Britain, France and the US than actually occurred. Remember it was the failure of the democratic Russian government to bring peace that led to the October Revolution. If the SDP led coalition of 1918 doesn’t bring peace it will fall and what replaces it will be more extreme.
The German high command will likely still not take on such blame as it would result in the tarnishing of their reputation. Ludendorff especially shouted the stab in the back message the most post world war 1, despite fleeing to Switzerland when the war went sour. Considering his role and reputation, many nationalists believed such as their ideology prohibited them from envisioning their nation losing.
You have no idea how many people I saw on the internet that cant get past their own times. Point me to a "slightly changed" modern UK poster that looks like this 4:35 .
@@_Luluko_ You can not intelligently compare CNN and MSNBC to Fox News. Fox News was founded as a propaganda tool of conservatives from day one. It has repeatedly spread outright lies and the worst kind of hateful rhetoric. While MSNBC has evolved into a liberal network, it tends to stick to using facts that push it's agenda and ignoring of facts that might damage said agenda. While CNN isn't really a liberal network, it is just called Liberal by certain people who have become so extreme they no longer have an understanding of the moderates in the middle like CNN. I do understand that most of the media groups do use propaganda to push their ideas, however there are profound differences between them. Some are reality based, and some live in alternate realities that push proven falsehoods. The right has now settled so deeply into an alternate reality that nobody has any idea of how to bring them back to planet earth. The left can get too extreme sometimes, often taking good ideas just too far. But the left tends to stay reality based.
Though i'm a big fan of the entire time ghost team and their incredible nuanced and unbiased covering of WW2. I do think that calling the germans the agressors in WW1 is an oversimplification of that conflict.
As a rural American farmer I’ve watched this happen first hand to people in my family as well as most of the farmers around these parts. I am fearful for this planets future. 😢😢😢😢
My German is rusty...Is that poster about Sparticus recruiting for the Timeghost Army? A very simplified view but I don't consider Germany the big bad of WWI, they did what all the other major players did, activate defense treaties and marched off to war. The problem was at the end when it came to issuing blame, and here Germany suffered from 2 problems: a:They were the last ones standing and b: They were just too good at what they did.
If you have been watching this channel and can't make the comparison to these times, I strongly suggest to check your own biases and think about what exactly you are getting out of the education this channel and many others bring. There are plenty of people who are smart, intelligent, brilliant even. But do not have the ability to tap into sittuational awareness. Ignorance knows no bounds
I seem to see a lot of the left who for some reason can’t see the parallels despite the fact that “el supreme slobbo slime orange man Adolf 2.0” was so hated and called “literally hitler” despite the mainstream media doing the exact methodology of Pravda of the USSR & Volkischer Beobachter and Der Sturmer of Nazi Germany...
@@tyvernoverlord5363 I d our ex president Nazi or Hitler. I did not like him but I reserve that don't call people Nazis unless they advocate Nazi ideas and actions.
@@tyvernoverlord5363 You have your opinion and so do I. By the way I did not call your preferred candidate any names as you seem to find it necessary to do so.
Since it is related to something mentioned in this video (the spark that started the fire), could you do a video about the instigated raid on the radio-station in Gleiwitz on August 31st 1939? I happen to live near the station and I think it is an interesting and even comical/tragical story. There was also a series of other instigated raids on the German-Polish border. All the best from Silesia!
Bernays was related to Sigmund Freud. A US colonel and peacetime lawyer named Murray Bernays drafted the concept for holding the Nuremberg trials. Whether he was related to Edward Bernays, I don't know.
Christianity was tolerated as long as it did not go against the official Nazi propaganda. In the second half of the war AH became more and more anti christian.
The German Lutheran and Catholic Churches were instrumental in enabling the Nazis to grow their power base during the end of the Weimar era through into the 30s. Hitler recognised this and formally reintroduced Kirchensteuer (church tax) which still exists to this day in Austria and Germany.
Yeah, Egypt had a great strategic value and would it be interesting how society was regarding British influence and how the Egyptian people saw this and the war.
@@yousefshahin2654 Regarding the rich history of Egypt, from the ancient times (one if not the first great civilization in the Mediterranean) over the Middle Ages (one of the strongest powers in the eastern Mediterranean) until Napoleon came, its more than understandable. It’s a shame that Egypt was held like a simple province. It’s also a big shame that many countries in Africa or Central Asia are still heavily influenced by the aftermath of British colonialism at least societies like the Egyptian had a feeling of unity before the UK kicked the door open unlike Afghanistan for example, where at least 40 different ethnics were thrown together and reorganized as a new nation.
Seriously, when you're done with ties I'd love a go at sparty's jackets. I'm 53 regular when you are ready to auction then off lol. Love the channel, keep them coming please.
Except back then the boogieman was very, very real. Much of it wasn't, such as the Jew stuff, but the fear of a communist takeover WASN'T FALSE. You need to remember that to have any hope of understanding the political landscape back then.
Look at the people still afraid of the socialist boogieman. The things you fear about socialism aren't even socialism. Yes, Stalin was a dick and killed his own people. That wasn't because of socialism. That was because Stalin was a dick. He was a despot dictator and you can argue that Stalinism was in no way socialistic. Hitler and the Nazis killed out of political ideology. FASCISM is the far bigger threat than socialism ever was. There are many in the US happily going down the fascist road and they don't even know it.
@@timothyhouse1622 YOU are the one who is going down the fascist path because you try to dehumanize your opposition and direct attention away from things you want ignored simply for your agenda
So you might be wondering... where is my tie? Why on earth is Spartacus appearing in leisure wear suddenly? And wait a minute... isn’t that a Fred Perry shirt like the Proud Boys, and skinheads wear? So let’s answer that: as for the styling; watch some old films with PR guys, and advertising agency folk in them, or if nothing else Mad Men - already in the forties the “blazer and tennis shirt” look became a mainstay in advertising circles... it also happens to be my goto leisure wear. As for Fred Perry - absolutely! I’ve been wearing FP since I was a wee little punk doing mischief on the streets of Paris in the 1980s, and I’m not about to stop because some boneheaded fascist fanboys decide it’s theirs - it’s just as much a symbol of the hardcore jazz scene, rappers, sport personalities with style, and what have you. To the contrary: especially _because_ extremists have tried to appropriate it as their sign, we need to take it away from them, so that it doesn’t become a part of their propaganda toolbox. That’s all I have to say today... enjoy the video.
Well said!
I don't know if I would call the proud boys fascists, just knuckleheads out to cause trouble.
If you asked them what their ideology is they would say "Murica!".
Can tell you've lost weight over the last year, you're looking great!
I don't agree with the point on reparations. It was one of the factors that aided in Hitler's side - and it compounded other factors, like harming a post-war German economy that meant the recession hit harder. Yes, Germany did deserve to face punishment for what it did, but what happened was far too harsh. Versailles was too harsh. And Versailles was one of the long term causes of the conflict that this channel is named for.
Good point - though I'm not sure I can picture Don Draper in that jacket.
@@adamlee2550 that’s why I said “fascist fanboys” and thank you! In have lost some weight after changing my diet radically last summer. Although this done-blue (close to raw) steak lover will never give up meat if not under extreme duress, I’m as close to vegetarian without becoming one you can get.
11:10 Old joke from the Soviet era: "As communists, our glorious future is known. It's our past that keeps changing."
Nice one, it really made my day
well see, "the people" are always right, stalin doesnt need your vote, he knows what you want
@@HugostarGames And Stalin said it doesn’t matter who votes but who counts the votes that matters.
Soviet humor at its finest
@@claudermiller I didn’t say that.
“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
- Voltaire
_Gott mit uns_
Reasons I believe religion is inherently evil.
@@coling3957 Also helped bring us to the democracy today though so... Progress is often stained with blood, unfortunately, we are but simple stupid apes.
@@coling3957 There were so many various influences going in and out of style during the revolution that you can hardly blame anti-monarchist sentiment for everything. The largest threat to a revolutionary was another revolutionary. It was a turbulent time.
@@coling3957 The other side of this story is that France was at war with Austria, Prussia and Britain. War to destroy revolution and to restore monarchy and the old order.
Many of the guillotined were literal 5th column. The only question was whose head will be chopped off in the end - aristocracy or revolutionaries.
Anybody else share my opinion that Spartacus should be narrating audio books? He'd be awesome at it.
Yes!
No
The Edward Bernays info really blew me away. First I ever heard of him. And here I was giving all the credit to goebbles. Thankyou for straightening me out. Bernays really opened a can of worms with that idea. We're still living under that bridge.
Yet, plenty of people will defend Bernay by claiming that he was different in that he wanted to lie to the masses to achieve "good ends." Just another bastard with no principles who thought he was better than everybody else. If someone tries to manipulate you with lies they are your enemy, do not let them try to get away by claiming "it was for a good cause."
You should watch "The Century of Self"
Interesting, I never heard of it. What is it about?
I was going to try to describe it, but I guess I'll just let Adam Curtis describe the work himself: "This series is about how those in power have used Freud's theories to try and control the dangerous crowd in an age of mass democracy."
Bernays' work (if one can call it that) is largely the subject of the first film.
Let me guess, if people who are not dangerous, are constantly lied to and about they might become dangerous.
A most excellent episode. Bernays is critically important to understanding today’s politics as well. A big thank you for your work.
One could take all the past's tropes, boogeymen and tools of propaganda and find the exact same 21st century alternatives.
The followers of Trump and Qanon is a good example of this
@@TheApilas lmao you people are delusional. He still haunts you 🤣
@@jayr7890 Well, he could technically still run in 2024 and honestly, once was enough for a lifetime. On top of that, he and his followers really make a perfect case study on the subject of propaganda in the 2010s.
@@jirkazalabak1514 naw, we need more like him. And take a good look at yourself. The MSM has such a tight hold on you people, you will believe literally anything they tell you. Lol all you people know how to do is point the other finger and accuse the other side of exactly what you're doing and it's hilarious.
To jump ahead, at the Casablanca Conference in 1943 FDR demanded the Axis' Unconditional Surrender primarily to leave no room for another stab-in-the-back myth to grow.
It may have influenced the growth of the Allied bombing campaign. Certainly the inability to stop German cities from being bombed suggested to many Germans that they were losing the war.
FDR limited the U.S military to a total of 90 Divisions with 6 marine divisions so he really had no say in the matter. It was because of this that it was left to the Soviet Union to decide the scale of Germany's defeat. By capping the U.S to less than 100 Divisions that sickly stupid old man didn't give the U.S army the manpower to win the War without being dependant on events on the Eastern Front. It was because of FDR's stupidity that the Soviets were able to takeover half of Europe and the U.S didn't have the manpower to do anything more than to deter them from taking over the rest of Europe. Stalin would never have pushed into Poland if he was facing an American army of 12 million men in Europe.
@@shanejones6955 Makes sense, but it all worked out in the end
@@TannerWilliam07
Yeah... 45 year long Cold War with the world constantly on the brink.
@@shanejones6955 Yep. But maybe those 12 million Americans would have committed atrocities. You forget fascism originated in America from how they treated American Indians.
Moreover the financial burden on America would have set up for our failure in ways unforeseen. It's unfortunate, but capitalism always leads to fascism, racism, division, and a focus on sex crimes to keep the public from asking questions about their labor being stolen.
I am excited for what's to come in a generation with the internet
Lots of parallels with modern times. Those that are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. And there is plenty of ignorance out there today.
So true, sad to see what were free areas becoming police states.
Yes, couldn't help but think about the persistent myth put about by the Trumpists that the 2020 election was stolen - shades of 'stab in the back'. We now even have a senior retired US general (Flynn) advocating a coup d'etat 'like in Myanmar - if it can happen in Myanmar it can be done here'. As you say, those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. And there's far too much complacency around the resurgence of the really nasty Right. Don't let's deceive ourselves that Fascism and worse couldn't happen now as it's all 70 or 80 years ago in black and white film - another world in other words. It COULD happen now and the omens are not good.
@@hreader , disturbed by the fact I seem to be sofar the only up voter so far. But I do hope the majority of Americans will resist the madness of the far right and the far left, not that I can find any much activity on the far left.
Your saying there is plenty of ignorance out there today, cause you ignore how much ignorance there was before.
Take a look at religion. Was there a time where more people were not ignorant to an idea that the religion they were learning in their youth is the only true one?
And if you want an example from USA, take a look if a current generation trusts media as they did 25 years ago.
Particularly within the US Republican party. So much crime and so many lies….all wrapped in deception and raw stupidity.
A real A+ episode. A diamond among many gems.
A. There's one thing missing
@@NankerPhelge65 among us
@@NankerPhelge65 A TIE
Funny thing how the value of diamonds comes largely from a corporate propaganda.
Following Indie and Sparty since The Great War about 2015. This is one of the best Episodes I've seen so far. Well done Sparty, love your work!
Thank you for the kind words
A special on supply lines in the Pacific would be nice to see as well
Meh
Americans had an ice-cream ship.
Allied logistics especially in that theater didn't get much attention. And it's a massive undertaking too.
Underway Replenishment
That area resembles the Battle of the Atlantic in a few ways:
1) It was the difference between victory and defeat for the Allies in that theatre.
2) The amount of boring details, logistical challenges and supply rates prevent it from being as interesting as WWII battles.
That's unfortunate because the US logistic revolution was at least as impressive as blitzkrieg tactics but doesn't hold the interest.
A drinking game suggestion when spartacus is host: take a drink everytime he adjust his glasses.
I'm so sick of that joke/meme
I've fallen and can't get up
I believe this is the best video you ever published. Greetings from Germany
You’re too kind - but thank you.
"Tell the people a big enough lie enough of the time and they will believe it"
-Joseph Goebbels.
An apt quote and one that is still valid today
@Black Holed Son I was referring to the German part of it
So true, so sad.
That's a good one for the "antivaxxers" and the,"little green men built the pyramids"crowd LOL
I hope you realize that he was talking about the propaganda techniques of a certain tribe that is so oppressed that it shall not be named.
@Black Holed Son he was talking in generalities.
Look around
Blazer over a polo. Bold choice, but it checks out. Stay classy Sparty.
It's an older style choice but it checks out...
One day I will be classy enough to pull off the Spartacus drip
Mad how a history channel has at least 1/3 of its comments about dress choice. Ties, blazers, dresses etc.
Such an amazing community on this channel
Sparty lost ten years with that haircut. Very cool
Also, I love this dude’s nearly ww1 facial hair
Beard of wisdom
It looks cool
@@TheSuperhoden lol idiot🤣
@@marcoAKAjoe what 😡
@@TheSuperhoden the joke was funny
First time I have seen a serious dissertation on this subject. Much love to you, Astrid, Anna , Indie and the crew behind you guys and gals. Goebbles proudly displayed Herr Bernays' books on his desk and bookshelf. Well documented. Do your homework.
The key statement is "If they're willing to listen"
@@aldreymenezes7652 there's no such thing as an empty mind
Me: "I'll watch this and then start rewatching the Week to Week." Spartacus: "If you rewatch the start of week to week it might look a bit different"
I love the propaganda posters in the background with the team's faces on them
The worst part about watching this as a German is recognizing the patterns in modern day politics elsewhere.
Like...y'all learned nothing?
Cheers to Germany for being a culture that opposes the practice of infant male circumcision 🍺
spartacus: *pointing to the top right*
video: "im about to do a pro gamer move"
video: *appears on the bottom right*
Lol the editor should make a note to have on screen links appear on the opposite end of what is stated in the video, just to mess with the hosts :)
Simply outstanding script and excellent visuals and supporting quotes. I'll be re-watching this a couple of times!
This is a great video - probably one of the most important that this channel has produced. Important still for anyone growing up in this day and age to watch and take lessons from.
"...by inserting messages of hatred and division."
I see so much of this today, from both sides of the political divide. Outright terrifying to see people claim that they fight against such poisonous ideals while engaging in the very same openly and continuously.
How adorable, we have one of those "antifa are fascist" folks. You should look into the Paradox of Tolerance to understand how what you said is utter BS.
@@timothyhouse1622 Both the far right and the far left are hypocritical in America today. If you can't see that, you are a fool
@@timothyhouse1622 ANTIFA represents nothing but hate. The amount of thuggish street violence they get involved in is ludicrous.
@Andrew Warther Dunno. The lootings, Summer of love and riots were often condoned by the left in the past months.
Stop the steal! Lock her up! Build the wall! Get Brexit done!
Very fitting piece for our current times.
Please don’t compare him to the masks.
@Clinton Reisig bugger off. They covered holodomor, bring your thetoric somewhere else
@Clinton Reisig typical american with his biased agenda. Here we talk about actual history and content covered. Not your lies and agenda
@@Void_Wars I'm not comparing him to masks lol. Simply pointing out that literally anyone can do this type of propaganda these days with the advent of social media. I'm literally having to help my parents sift through all the bullshit because they are too old and too tired, they grew up with no social media, like 4 channels, and an evening news hour which actually just did pure journalistic reporting (no opinion shows). They are completely overwhelmed, and are a very susceptible demographic to a lot of the nonsense that folks like you and I can see right through.
@Clinton Reisig Whataboutery
Never knew that a budding Austrian artist can utilize propaganda to such an extent... Interesting video.
One could have added that Hitler trained hours for his speeches. Which face, which gestures and hand moves. Alone. In fron of a mirror.
This episode alone is a testament to the phrase, “Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.“
It’s also very important to note that the “unfair treaty” that was thrown upon Germany wasn’t really that bad. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk would’ve seen much more land taken from Russia and (I’m fairly certain) equal or harsher war reparations.
Agreed.
While I agree that the Versailles treay wasn't particularly punitive on Germany, the Brest-Litovsk comparison argument always has stuck me as odd. The areas taken away in the BL treaty were all inhabited by minorities wanting to be independent, as shown by the fact that all but Ukraine did stay independent (and the Ukrainians did try) between ww1 and ww2 and all of them are independent now. In that sense they were colonies of the Russian empire. If you count colonies, Germany lost 85% of its territory and yet nobody does that calculation for obvious reasons. In addition the BL-treaty was as punititve as it is because the Soviets negotiated in bad faith for weeks and then pulled out without a deal, severely worsening their negotiation position (at Versailles the Germans never got to participate in negotiations in the first place). Lastly, BL-treat had a 300 million gold mark reparation clause while the Versailles one did not even specify a fixed sum which is obviously horrible from a motivation perspective, because why pay down on an infinite loan (Germany ended up paying around 21 billion in total apparently).
@@Christian-sm9he Those areas lost by Russia as a result of BL were ceded directly to Germany and the Central Powers allies. They didn't achieve independence through BL, but by the defeat of the Central Powers. Ukraine was "nominally" given independence by BL, but de facto became a puppet state under the Central Powers. The reparations levied against the Central Powers, and notably Germany, were indeed unparalleled, but so too was the damage inflicted, much of it deliberately in the form of "scorched earth" policies, to those nations upon who's soil the war was fought. The amount of reparations paid by Germany was indeed a lot less than was actually decided upon, but was always, from the outset, conditional on her being able to pay. The amount repaid was, it should be noted, less than half the 50bn GM amount Germany had _offered_ to pay on 24 April 1921.
Another interesting calculation for you : In 1914, the area of Germany was 208,825 square miles. in 1918, Russia was forced to cede around 1,000,000 square miles of territory.
@@bolivar2153 The text in the BL treaty says: "Territories lying to the west of the line agreed upon by the contracting parties which formerly belonged to Russia, will no longer be subject to Russian sovereignty; the line agreed upon is traced on the map submitted as an essential part of this treaty of peace. The exact fixation of the line will be established by a Russo-German commission. No obligations whatever toward Russia shall devolve upon the territories referred to, arising from the fact that they formerly belonged to Russia. Russia refrains from all interference in the internal relations of these territories. Germany and Austria-Hungary purpose to determine the future status of these territories in agreement with their population." So at per the text they did not annex any territory whatsoever (and as far as I know they never issued any declaration of annexation separately from the treaty either). What this would have meant in practice if the central powers hadn't lost the war? Well your guess is as good as mine.
On the reparations: not sure you are arguing with me. All I was trying to say is that the original comments comparison of the BL reparations vs Versailles reparations is objectively wrong and that by a mile.
Lastly, in your little calculation you are doing exactly what I criticize: all Russian colonies (including places like Kars that got annexed only in 1878) are counted as territory lost by Russia, while the German colonies don't even turn up in the calculation by some bizarre wet feet while walking from capital rule. Interesting fact: if you count the colonies Germany was also forced to cede around 1,000,000 square miles of territory. But there we all accept that there is no right to keep colonies ...
@@Christian-sm9he The fate of the territories ceded by Russia to the Central Powers requires no guessing. The Septemberprogramm of 1914 is quite specific as to the nature of the regimes to established there and their ultimate purpose (and was the reason for the punitive nature of BL and not as a result of the actions of Trotsky and the Russian negotiators).
All that happened is that those territories swapped one colonial master for another under a different flag. The chance for freedom and independence came with the defeat of Germany and the Central Powers, not Russia.
Whilst you're reading up on the Septemberprogramm, why not take into account the nature of the peace that was to be imposed by Germany in the event of victory, and compare it with Versailles for comparison? There is no real requirement to compare it with BL, which was simply the implementation of the Septemberprogramm in the East.
As you say, Versailles was not particularly punitive towards Germany, especially in relation to both BL and the Septemberprogramm.
The usual argument levelled in favour of Germany is that "we don't know what they would have done in the event of victory, since they didn't win". However, BL shows clearly that even as late as 1918, the Septemberprogramm of 1914 was very much still on the agenda for implementation.
This sounds so much like today. Anti vaccine immediately jumps to mind. Other things as well, but in the North American news, this seems to be dominant right now.
Avaxxers? Yeah, and a whole ot else.
Like Fauci's "noble lies".
Yeah, well for me it’s the group of people saying I’m a killer and want to take my job and quality of life just for not following their rules that spring to mind.
I disagree with your rhetoric on the Versailles, even Keynes thought that Versailles was poorly drafted, reparations were cruel, and this treaty would eventually bring another war.
The record does not hold up that opinion to have become fact. Also, consider this: the terms at the end of WW2 were much harsher, and they were more heavily enforced - yet Germany is now one of the most peaceful nations on earth.
If you want to read more about this, I highly recommend Victor Klemperer's "The Language of the Third Reich" (also known simply as LTI, for Lingua Tertii Imperii). He experienced this perversion of the language at first hand and took notes; somehow both the author and his notes survived the war.
He was in the Dresden firestorm. He was scheduled for deportation but somehow managed to escape the fire. He was able to take off his yellow star of David and mingle with other refugees and eventually wound up in a small village by the end of the war. One of the few people that the destruction of Dresden saved rather than killed. See I Will Bear Witness Viktor Klemperer Diaries 1942-45.It gives you a day to idea of what it was like to be a Jew in Nazi Germany. He only survived as long as he did because he was married to a Christian so it was a "privileged" marriage. Also this was told in the book Stargardt The German War.
@@caryblack5985 honsi.org/svejk/?page=11&lang=en
Another survivor was Hans Bigler. He was the real-life model for the know-it-all Cadet Biegler in Jaroslav Hasek's "The Good Soldier Svejk". The Dresden bombing destroyed his documents - Bigler was at least half-Jewish, and his father was killed in Bergen-Belsen camp in 1944.
This video not only telling about the nazi peopaganda, but also the art of it and how to detect it to the modern day, very informative indeed.
funny enough, only a third of the video is about the nazi propaganda
I would argue that Propaganda has always had a sinister meaning, it's just rarely acknowledged as being the thoroughly dishonest manipulation it has always been.
Advertising is technically propaganda because of its aim: manipulate your mind into something they can take advantage of...
At the beggining of the 20th century it was used in a positive sense so no.
Am I only one who got real chills from this episode? Once again guys great job on episode, keep it that way!
I think this is the singlemost important video you have ever published! A commendable way to tackle the subject!
I think I'll have to rewatch this video periodically 😯😱😯😱😯😱
Can’t help but see some likeness in how Putin invaded Ukraine and then used to sanctions as proof that Russia is the victim even if the only reasons for sanctions is Russias aggression now and in the previous invasion of 2014. Also in how the country needs to once again take its place as a superpower in order to stay alive. Not to mention saying he is defending the Russian speakers in Other countries like how Hitler claimed to be defending German speakers in Sudetenland etc.
The “Stab in the Back” claim always reminds me of the assertion that the USA could have won the Vietnam War, but (inexplicably) chose not to. This canard was very popular in America in the 1970s and 80s, and into the 90s. It never had facts behind it, but neither did Germany’s “Stab in the Back.”
Huh, that's interesting and I've never heard of it. But considering some of the rhetoric I've heard regarding Afghanistan, it's not surprising. Especially since war is something America is used to (or perhaps fond of) and they rarely lose military. So if they do lose, it's not because their weak, inificent or unprepared, its because they were betrayed or screwed over by their true enemies (enter popular group for conspiricy theories, commies, Jews, ect)
@@Timoshemperoni Precisely.
@@scottkrater2131 Once again I bring up Afghanistan who was wildly corrupt and had more soldiers and equipment on paper than actually had. South Vietnam and Afghanistan became dependent on America for protection and most likely tried to skim as much of the top as possible. I'm glad Ukraine has learned from their earlier corruption in the military and adapted to western military doctrine with a united front and great leader.
@@scottkrater2131 The USA nearly bankrupted itself paying for the Vietnam War, and dropped more bombs than the total used by all sides in World War II. It killed four million Vietnamese people. The claim that the USA never tried to win militarily has no merit.
Excellent and very informative.
I say if you don't want to wear a tie when presenting these videos then don't wear a tie!
Thank you for the explanation of your garb for this video. I really hadn't noticed that you were not in a suit as I was enjoying all the information that you were presenting.
Thank you for another great video.
Gald you enjoyed it!
A brilliant piece. Again. I am most impressed by the level of depth. Congratulations to the team for producing another masterpiece.
Thank you for your kind words!
I know this is going to undercut the seriousness of the video but…
Spartacus, where did you get the blazer? I love it and I want one
Man, thankfully no one would do anything like this in the modern era...
And still people cant get past modern politics, comparing those horrible times to modern ones.
@@Paciat Trump's political machinations closely mimic Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s. Trevor's comment, I believe, was sarcastic in nature.
@@brucer4170 What minority group did Trump exterminate to get their money then?
Your making stuff up just to prove your point. Trump cut himself from those who tried to use force to change the elections. And still people who did this are called Trumpists. It just proves that people know very little about history of politics in other countries and are only interested in the few extreme examples.
Ive seen several accusations that elections were not legal in the past 15 years. And they all ended with nothing but small scale protests. And its the same in all western democracies. Mistrust is what makes a democratic society healthy.
this channel offers a view of the ww2 that surpasses anything i saw in primary school’s history lessons - excellent work
Thank you for your kind words!!
i love the time ghost war posters , very cool
Hitler's 4 points on propaganda is exactly how modern politicians communicate with the public. Not necessarily shocked, more disturbed
Everyone has inherent values (good or bad) in relation to human rights and a measure of their own interpretations of what these values are. When a whole nation,no matter the indoctrinations/propaganda, have given up their rights to be included as a normal humanitarian member of the human race,then in this case, the vast majority of the populous of this nation are complicit in this evil doctrine perprepated by the Nazi's,which was freely accepted and shamelessly complied with.
There is no excuse,none at all, too those who accepted and propogated /applied this evil.
@@_Luluko_ Think critically about history... the exploitation of non-European peoples by Europeans goes back to the Spanish and Portuguese explorers first landing in Africa and the New World. And America has always been systemically racist... we are just becoming more aware of it now because the idea that African-Americans are just as much people as whites is finally starting to sink into the public consciousness.
@@_Luluko_ What part of what I wrote says anything negative about whites? That African-Americans are just as much people who have the same amount of value and should have the same opportunity? The historical fact that Europeans, and those of European ancestry, for centuries, exploited the labor and natural resources of those who are not? That our entire society has been built on the blood, sweat, and tears of African-Americans while repeatedly denying both their humanity and the same opportunity for improvement that whites (normally) had?
@@_Luluko_ ⬆️⬆️⬆️ Full of racist tropes and pointless deflection. Don't worry, just because people of color will be getting their full, legal rights finally applied, doesn't mean your rights will shrink as a result.
A wise man once told me the world is full of people trying to sell you on all kinds of bullshit. “Don’t just listen to what they say.” He told me. “Look at what they do, look at who they are, and then ask yourself ‘do those two things jive?’ If not, they’re selling snake oil.”
Such simple advice, and yet so hard for so many people to follow, especially when they have more riding on the lie than the truth.
Sparty always amazes with both the content AND the clothing 👏👏
"don't get saucy with me bearnaise" needed something funny
I just learned about the stab in the back myth this past semester. Cool to see it again here.
I would need that timeghost propaganda poster
They are all so awesome
Subliminal advertising at work?
I learned about this in an abnormal psychology book, make the people think like their leader. Tell them lies, dehumanize the enemy, and say that „We had to do it because [insert alibi].“
The quality of this channel is astounding
Thank you for your kind words
Spartacus makes me reconsider my own attire. I need to go shopping to buy myself some clothes to look this good everyday.
Always glad if I can inspire, although I never thought of myself as a fashion icon - In other words: I'm very flattered.
@@spartacus-olsson Thank you for responding, very humbled. Your suits are excellent and your choice selection is perfect, this show has made me buy ties and now have over 50 different ties. And 2 or 3 suits but you my man, make me want to go out and buy a very similar suit to yours. You always look epic and I believe we have similar styles. So I will look epic with you!
2:08 Love that Poster, even got it as my Phone Wallpaper.
History doesn't repeat itself, the people do.
13:38 that sign thing was cool. Keep doing that
These kinds of episodes always throw up some interesting comments. I see a duality in them of both sides (left and right) saying "this is what they're doing" but never getting past populist soundbites. I worry that the warnings of the first episode, the dangers of an "us vs them" mentality has gone on deaf ears for far too many. I think it's important that we as a society stop trying to change everyone else for a second and see how we can change ourselves to stop seeing our political rivals as "them."
It’s hard not to be against a ideology that wants to strip you of your right to work, go to restaurants, and allows the police to brutalize you for going out past a certain hour
As the French Enlightenment writer, historian, and philosopher, François-Marie Arouet (perhaps better known by his nom du plume Voltaire, famous for his staunch criticism of Christianity-most particular the Roman Catholic Church-as well as his strong advocacy of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the separation of church and state, once said it: "Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" and "The mirror is a worthless invention. The only way to truly see yourself is in the reflection of someone else’s eyes."
This is true of not only the Nazis, but the whole of the Axis Powers. They saw themselves as liberators. In the eyes of others, not so much.
Given their complaints of the unfairness of Versailles, I wonder how the German leadership felt about Brest-Litovsk
Probably like this: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
For all intent and purposes the treaty of Versailles was tame compared to the treaties of Saint Germain, Sevres and Trianon.
If France has gotten their way, Germany will be looking more like post WW1 borders of Austria, Hungary and the theoretical dismembering of the Ottoman Empire.
You mean the second version after the Soviets refused the more lenient one?
Love the posters!
Why does the link to advertising not surprise me. Advertising is so manipulative that it makes my blood boil sometimes. Especially at a time when consumption needs to be lowered if we are to sustain any kind of modern civilization on this planet.
Hahahaha! Regurgitated from the start of last century. Grow up and look back at all the failed "sky is falling" scenarios. Yeah, I know. "This time it's different." Hahahajaha!
In case someone hasn't mentioned it already, I believe that is Joseph Cotton with Ingrid Bergman at 15:14. Cotton was the protagonist in the movie and is out to prove Bergman's character isn't insane. Charles Boyer played the husband accused of gaslighting her, so his character would have represented the Nazis.
14:07 just like the media is doing today
Yes ,absolutly ,and a good propaganda will work any time and any place.
Super interesting video. I love that you also go further and not just cover the fighting and also what's happening behind the front, how it happened and why. Its especially important in this war
identity politics is always a nasty business.
As usual I quite enjoy your portion of videos Spartacus, particularly when they go much deeper into certain concepts such as here with the Dolchstoßlegende.
Furthermore, it helps a lot that you pronounce the German properly when reading out these quotes.
Well done, keep up the good work.
True, today one person can reach a huge part of the planet right to the person. It’s a scary time.
Spartacus is looking SHARP!
Thank you
@@spartacus-olsson i also love the wartime-esque posters behind you that have Time Ghost sayings! Very creative! Your set design is always on point and really sets the mood for your videos!
last time I was this early, Hitler was an artist
LOL!
I really enjoyed this episode...a heart felt well done!
Thank you
How well would that stab in the back line work had the Great War lasted into 1919 and the Germans were pushed back into Germany before surrendering? They keep harping on how they were still occupying parts of France and Belgium but they neglect to say that the German Army was pretty much out of reserves after the 1918 Offensive. Then again, the truth has a hard time fitting into politics.
Had that happened then it is likely that Germany would have become communist as the forces that defeated the Spartacists in 1919/20 would have been destroyed. The continuation of the war would also likely have led to much stronger left wing reaction in Britain, France and the US than actually occurred. Remember it was the failure of the democratic Russian government to bring peace that led to the October Revolution. If the SDP led coalition of 1918 doesn’t bring peace it will fall and what replaces it will be more extreme.
The German high command will likely still not take on such blame as it would result in the tarnishing of their reputation. Ludendorff especially shouted the stab in the back message the most post world war 1, despite fleeing to Switzerland when the war went sour. Considering his role and reputation, many nationalists believed such as their ideology prohibited them from envisioning their nation losing.
Just noticed the posters on the wall with your faces on them. That's amazing, love it
"False suspicion of the will for world domination" lmao
You know I've watched all these episodes, and yet I have only just noticed today that the posters on the wall are the cast :D haha
Sure this was about the 1930's. Could have sworn it was actually all about the UK 2021 with just some phrases slightly changed.
Not just the UK, but far too much of the world. It describes Fox News and the other extreme right wing "news" organizations perfectly.
You have no idea how many people I saw on the internet that cant get past their own times.
Point me to a "slightly changed" modern UK poster that looks like this 4:35 .
@@_Luluko_ You can not intelligently compare CNN and MSNBC to Fox News. Fox News was founded as a propaganda tool of conservatives from day one. It has repeatedly spread outright lies and the worst kind of hateful rhetoric.
While MSNBC has evolved into a liberal network, it tends to stick to using facts that push it's agenda and ignoring of facts that might damage said agenda.
While CNN isn't really a liberal network, it is just called Liberal by certain people who have become so extreme they no longer have an understanding of the moderates in the middle like CNN.
I do understand that most of the media groups do use propaganda to push their ideas, however there are profound differences between them. Some are reality based, and some live in alternate realities that push proven falsehoods. The right has now settled so deeply into an alternate reality that nobody has any idea of how to bring them back to planet earth. The left can get too extreme sometimes, often taking good ideas just too far. But the left tends to stay reality based.
Though i'm a big fan of the entire time ghost team and their incredible nuanced and unbiased covering of WW2. I do think that calling the germans the agressors in WW1 is an oversimplification of that conflict.
As a rural American farmer I’ve watched this happen first hand to people in my family as well as most of the farmers around these parts. I am fearful for this planets future. 😢😢😢😢
My German is rusty...Is that poster about Sparticus recruiting for the Timeghost Army?
A very simplified view but I don't consider Germany the big bad of WWI, they did what all the other major players did, activate defense treaties and marched off to war. The problem was at the end when it came to issuing blame, and here Germany suffered from 2 problems:
a:They were the last ones standing and
b: They were just too good at what they did.
Joseph Cotten wasn't the husband in Gaslight, he was the copper who ended up the wife's saviour.
I'm glad someone else caught that. I was also going to comment. The sinister husband was played by Charles Boyer.
Liked the poster hanging in the background.
Sounds like the current state of American politics.
And British too.
Who is inciting genocide?
@@rick7424 hitler didn't start with Genocide, that was just his goal. His rhetoric was just a "Germany first" narrative
Great topic and superbly covered.
If you have been watching this channel and can't make the comparison to these times, I strongly suggest to check your own biases and think about what exactly you are getting out of the education this channel and many others bring. There are plenty of people who are smart, intelligent, brilliant even. But do not have the ability to tap into sittuational awareness. Ignorance knows no bounds
I seem to see a lot of the left who for some reason can’t see the parallels despite the fact that “el supreme slobbo slime orange man Adolf 2.0” was so hated and called “literally hitler” despite the mainstream media doing the exact methodology of Pravda of the USSR & Volkischer Beobachter and Der Sturmer of Nazi Germany...
Smart people are easier to fool than dumb ones for they can rationalize their choice...
@@tyvernoverlord5363 I d our ex president Nazi or Hitler. I did not like him but I reserve that don't call people Nazis unless they advocate Nazi ideas and actions.
@@caryblack5985 Except now we have fascist racist cold-war reliq “uncle joe” as the POTUS so, please...
@@tyvernoverlord5363 You have your opinion and so do I. By the way I did not call your preferred candidate any names as you seem to find it necessary to do so.
Since it is related to something mentioned in this video (the spark that started the fire), could you do a video about the instigated raid on the radio-station in Gleiwitz on August 31st 1939? I happen to live near the station and I think it is an interesting and even comical/tragical story. There was also a series of other instigated raids on the German-Polish border.
All the best from Silesia!
Bernays great nephew went on to found ... Netflix.
Bernays was related to Sigmund Freud.
A US colonel and peacetime lawyer named Murray Bernays drafted the concept for holding the Nuremberg trials. Whether he was related to Edward Bernays, I don't know.
@@stevekaczynski3793 Murray was Edward's brother in law... wherein he took his sisters name. By birth, he was Cohen.
I am absolutely in love with the background posters
How did the Nazis view christianty? There were millions of them in Germany and their occupied territories, did they plan do ban it in the future?
Christianity was tolerated as long as it did not go against the official Nazi propaganda. In the second half of the war AH became more and more anti christian.
The German people did not want to be puppets of Pope and his followers -------
@@maheshpalivela9486 So the Germans didn't want to be Catholics?
The German Lutheran and Catholic Churches were instrumental in enabling the Nazis to grow their power base during the end of the Weimar era through into the 30s. Hitler recognised this and formally reintroduced Kirchensteuer (church tax) which still exists to this day in Austria and Germany.
Three words to answer your question: Gott mit uns.
to me, it's the best Spartacus' so far, especially because it's very actual and terrifyingly usefull in everyday life
Make a special episode about the kingdom of Egypt during WW2 please
Would be nice
@@marcoAKAjoe Yeah, I am Egyptian that's why I want it :)
Yeah, Egypt had a great strategic value and would it be interesting how society was regarding British influence and how the Egyptian people saw this and the war.
@@jupprheinland4805 Believe me, we absolutely despised the British, even our King, Farouk l, hated the British
@@yousefshahin2654 Regarding the rich history of Egypt, from the ancient times (one if not the first great civilization in the Mediterranean) over the Middle Ages (one of the strongest powers in the eastern Mediterranean) until Napoleon came, its more than understandable. It’s a shame that Egypt was held like a simple province. It’s also a big shame that many countries in Africa or Central Asia are still heavily influenced by the aftermath of British colonialism at least societies like the Egyptian had a feeling of unity before the UK kicked the door open unlike Afghanistan for example, where at least 40 different ethnics were thrown together and reorganized as a new nation.
I love how you make posters out of all of you!
Putin. Ukraine.
Seriously, when you're done with ties I'd love a go at sparty's jackets. I'm 53 regular when you are ready to auction then off lol. Love the channel, keep them coming please.
Hitler alone? This title is absurd!
Well Done Mr.Olsen‼️ And the Posters of Y'all are absolutely Superb❗🥂-Cheers via Nashville, TN🇺🇲
This sounds like the US over the last decade.
Sounds more like China
Particularly the left in the U.S.
@@finchborat There it is, I was just waiting for a conservative to say that.
@@garretth8224 Yet there are a bunch of liberals saying the same thing about conservatives in other comment chains of this video
@@garretth8224 your turn
Very interesting and informative video. Love it.
The lyrics may change but the song is the same. Stoking xenophobic racism with a fear of a socialist boogieman sounds familiar.
Everyone likes making a scapegoat for all of their troubles.
Except back then the boogieman was very, very real. Much of it wasn't, such as the Jew stuff, but the fear of a communist takeover WASN'T FALSE. You need to remember that to have any hope of understanding the political landscape back then.
I mean, Socialism is something to legitimately be afraid of. That's why inducing fear of Socialism works so well
Look at the people still afraid of the socialist boogieman. The things you fear about socialism aren't even socialism. Yes, Stalin was a dick and killed his own people. That wasn't because of socialism. That was because Stalin was a dick. He was a despot dictator and you can argue that Stalinism was in no way socialistic.
Hitler and the Nazis killed out of political ideology. FASCISM is the far bigger threat than socialism ever was. There are many in the US happily going down the fascist road and they don't even know it.
@@timothyhouse1622 YOU are the one who is going down the fascist path because you try to dehumanize your opposition and direct attention away from things you want ignored simply for your agenda
Excellent video.
Thank you!