The killer punch is revealing that the video is shot from kit lens. Its a subtle detail but added lot of value on why this video is created. Thank you.
If you call a death and boring flat look without any artistic involvement a punch then you are right. But it it`s definitely killer, it kills the pleasure in watching.
Hi @Kensei, The idea to film and upload this video with the kit lens totally shows how much confidence you have in your review about the kit lens and its performance. Nailed it.
When I bought my a7II it came with the 28-70mm kit lens. This is an excellent lens with good sharpness, it has OSS, and the build quality is fine. The most important thing is that it only cost CAD $200 more than the body only price. At current exchange rates CAD $200 is equal to USD $145, an amazing bargain, and excellent value! Why would you NOT get the kit lens with your camera for that kind of money?
The Tamron is f2.8 constant. It's light (can be even used on smaller gimbals like Ronin SC) has great image quality. All the advantages of pro lens without the problems of weight and size. only problem it's 28mm on wide end.
im just starting using sony system. i got bunch of fuji gears for my paid gigs. i decided to try sony a7 the original version because of the size and weight. i plan to use it for outdoor events. having 28 70 kit lens and 50 1.8 is more than enough to cover all that i need. having a light set up can make me last for a couple more hours to run and gun. the quality definitely is more than good enough. as long as it can get the job done and clients are happy i don't really mind using this kit lens for paid job.
If I was billing myself consulting hours for all the time I've spent trying to figure out what lens to buy, it would've been cheaper to just buy whatever G or GM lens was in range.
I bought the 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 for my ZV-E10 with plans to pick up a full-frame body with time. For the price it's pretty solid for what you're paying for, especially if you can snag one on the used market like I did. I'm definitely considering the Sigma after I pick up a full-frame body. The constant f2.8 would be pretty ideal since I'm a hybrid shooter. You did a fantastic job comparing the two lenses!
I bought a broken Sigma a few months ago with the intention to repair it eventually, and I finally pulled the trigger on the repair parts (even though I saved a lot of $$$ it’s still expensive 😅) after dealing with the frustrating problems of the kit lens, even though it’s been absolutely fantastic for me. But as any other lens dealing with a variable aperture is a PITA and the distortion is frustratingly extreme, in addition to just how soft the center of the image is. I’m glad I could have a few months with the kit lens to discipline myself with my mirrorless but I’m very excited to switch over.
Exactly the video I was looking for. Very helpful. I have the A7iii with the Kit lens and an 85mm f1.4 prime lens, but I want to buy a 24-70 f2.8 lens. My budget is not quite enough for a Sigma lens at the moment, but I am waiting for offers on the Tamron 28-75 G2 lens. Size & weight are big factors for me, since I don't like large and heavy lenses but at the same time, that 24mm vs 28mm thing is very hard to overlook. I feel like I will need that extra 4mm when I'm travelling. It's really difficult to choose. Size+Weight+Price vs Light+Compact+Cheaper -4mm
I know it’s not everyone’s favorite (mixed feelings with some of the reviews) but if your budget allows for a more budget friendly lens but gives you the opportunity to shoot with that until one day when you can get your hands on the better glass.
I’m thinking of getting a prime lens or a kit lens with Sony A7 iV - still making my mind up. Thank you for the amazing comparison video - it’s very helpful
I just bought a A7IV with the 28-70 kit lens, I did this because I didnt have the enough money to buy the 24-70mm, after saving a couple of bucks I will go for this one, Thank you for sharing this information.
People should really consider this being a really good lens for travelling. Because of course you're not going to use this as a studio lens, but the kit lens is great for travelling and for if you're equipment gets stolen, it's not a huge setback. Also the weight is important. When people trash this lens, they need to account for travelers who don't want to bring a 1k lens with them that is also very heavy and draws a lot of attention.
Great video, valid point to get one good lens for a more practical approach. My Sony A7 IV and Tamron 28-75 G2 is on the way :) I think it is a good start point for family pictures and indoor photography. Two question for you and the community: - How far do you push your ISO with a 2.8? - Thinking about the Tamron 70-300 for the outdoor activities? Any thoughts
Good choice! - Around 4000 with a noise reduction in post - I've never used it before so I honestly don't know, but that focal length is good for landscape and nature stuffs
Hey! Really cool content! Thank you! I am exactly in the point to buy a new camera and in doubt to buy w or without lens. Where these shots from your video made without gimble, all hand cam? Thanks!
thank you so much for making this content. I just ordered my Sony a6000 and I was looking for a lens, I believe Sony 28 to 70 mm would be the best choice for beginning.
In my point of view not much difference at simple landscaping view, but when it comes for portrait view there is a huge difference... With the kit lens you as the subject looks a little bit funny while on the Sigma you look like a super model or Hollywood's movie main character.
I was planning to buy Sony a7iii with Tamron 28-75mm, but that was going out of my budget. Now after watching your video i think kit lens will do my work. Thank you
I was looking for information about this kit lens and found your video, thank you. Also, isn't that kofu? Kofu in Yamanashi? Funny. A couple of years ago I lived there, such a wonderful place and took thousands of photos.
Hey Kensei. As of right now I can only afford the kit lens that comes with it, either the 28-70mm or 50mm prime with an A7IV. Do you think I should downgrade maybe to an APS-C camera like the A6600 and go for a better, fixed lens? I intend to shoot travelling, outdoor videos and shoot photos alongside with that.
Hi! Im videogrpher. I have A7iii with stock lens. I want improve my video quality. You recomend me sell the A7iii and change to other brand o change the lens?
Hi, for versatile uses, with sony camera wich lens do you recommend? FE 28-70mm oss (f.3.5 5.6 SEL287O or aps- c Sony E 16-55mm f 2.8G(SEL1655G) thanks
hi again...i was searching fix 40 mm ...but what do you thing about this? Sony a6600 with tamron 17-70 or sony ac7 or a7II with sony EF 18-105 .. o know are two expensive options ...and what do think about using that sony EF on 6600...thanks!!
@@KenseiAkatsuhi again i saw recently sony FE 24-105mm ..do you consider this good for photos????( i need weather sealing and oss if i buy 6100) In the other hand Tamron 17-70 mm i readed that there were problems with some units..firmware issues and fake copies...i dont wanna risk with that... So do you prefer FE 24-105 on apsc or sony FE 40MM fixed with full frame camera?( i dont care to much bokeh) i believe these are versatiles..and thats what i need. Subscribed
I like your channel. Cool and funny too. About the kit lens: remember your own zen saying: ‘A good thing is a good thing’. Everything is not about the quality of the lens but the quality of the photographer.
Thanks for this, it makes the decision a lot easier. About the last part of the video: it's interesting how you went back to Japanese pronunciation of English words, like firumu kamera 🙂
I bought A7iv and waiting for it's delivery.. now searching for 24 70 zoom lens. Sigma, Samyang, Tamron.. which one to pick? Samyang is cheap and has some good reviews.. but I feel like most of them are paid reviews, bcoz all the reviewers are acting weird .. LOL. paid reviewers are so great than oscar winning actors.
I have had both. Obviously the SIgma is better. But I did not hate the kit lens either. It was much much better then any Canon kit lens I have ever used.
just purchased a Sony A7IV with the kit lens it’s my first camera and I thought it would be good enough to start with and it definitely has been awesome
the kitlens isn't bad, however, I do plan to get the Sigma eventually so I don't think I would want to have the kitlens and invest in get the Sigma especially that it has extra 4mm and better colors and focus and aperture. Is traveling with the Sigma art lens really that bad?
If you already know you will get Sigma2470 anyway in the future, I'd say "Go for it now!" For sure it's a heavy lens but totally worth it and traveling with it is not that bad.
I just found your channel. Great content! This video helped me out! I'm an Olympus OM-D EM-1mk2 user, but I've been shooting my content with my iPhone 13 Pro because it shoots better video. I'm thinking of upgrading to a Sony. Saving up for an a7iv. Would you recommend a a7iii or a7iv? Aloha from Yokohama! ちなみに、最後のレンズの revealと日本語はめっちゃ面白かった！
I am still shooting with kit lens and old camera. I can't tell the differences, I don't have the other lens to compare. Hahaha. Now I see the differences with your comparison. But can't afford the people lens. Still gonna shoot with the kit lens 😎. Great review. 👍
I thought the kit lens was awesome considering the price difference. Buy a used Sony 50mm lens with your savings and you're sorted. That's a better combo than just the Sigma. And you'll still have change for a gimbal, lol.
Greetings from Poland ;) In your opinion... what would you choose? S7IV with kit lens or S7III with Sigma 24-70 I looked at hundreds of videos on YT and in my opinion your approach to the photo-video topic is the most rational ;)
I was torn about getting an unused kit lens for 15.000円 or save up and buy a used Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 for 75.000円. But after your video I think I'm just gonna buy the kit lens and use the remaining money to buy another lens I might need in the future. Thanks dude, your video was a big help.
Pro lense if you have lots of papers to burn..lol
I didn't have enough papers for GM... lol
I got no paper at all. Kit lens will have to do for now. 😆 😂
Or if you have a really good credit card and you still have 18 months interest free 😅😅😅😅
Nice review
The killer punch is revealing that the video is shot from kit lens. Its a subtle detail but added lot of value on why this video is created. Thank you.
Thanks!
That was good right?? 🫣
Ofcourse it is 😀
This!!!
If you call a death and boring flat look without any artistic involvement a punch then you are right.
But it it`s definitely killer, it kills the pleasure in watching.
@@brugj03Oh come on, you had no idea he was using the kit lens until he said it🤣
Hi @Kensei, The idea to film and upload this video with the kit lens totally shows how much confidence you have in your review about the kit lens and its performance. Nailed it.
Thanks!!
THIS was the video I have been looking for! Great honest real world review! Thank you for being honest & not just pushing equipment.
That's my motto!
_Not that bad…I mean, it’s more than not that bad; it’s good_
That line was so good haha
When I bought my a7II it came with the 28-70mm kit lens. This is an excellent lens with good sharpness, it has OSS, and the build quality is fine. The most important thing is that it only cost CAD $200 more than the body only price. At current exchange rates CAD $200 is equal to USD $145, an amazing bargain, and excellent value! Why would you NOT get the kit lens with your camera for that kind of money?
The Tamron is f2.8 constant. It's light (can be even used on smaller gimbals like Ronin SC) has great image quality. All the advantages of pro lens without the problems of weight and size. only problem it's 28mm on wide end.
Exactly!
I really liked the image from that lens!!
Most of us car videographers that do rollers use RS or M gimbals so we prefer the sigma because of the weight
You're videos make me laugh in a very natural way, love the vibe and the information!
I appreciate that!
im just starting using sony system. i got bunch of fuji gears for my paid gigs. i decided to try sony a7 the original version because of the size and weight. i plan to use it for outdoor events. having 28 70 kit lens and 50 1.8 is more than enough to cover all that i need. having a light set up can make me last for a couple more hours to run and gun. the quality definitely is more than good enough. as long as it can get the job done and clients are happy i don't really mind using this kit lens for paid job.
If I was billing myself consulting hours for all the time I've spent trying to figure out what lens to buy, it would've been cheaper to just buy whatever G or GM lens was in range.
I bought the 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 for my ZV-E10 with plans to pick up a full-frame body with time. For the price it's pretty solid for what you're paying for, especially if you can snag one on the used market like I did.
I'm definitely considering the Sigma after I pick up a full-frame body. The constant f2.8 would be pretty ideal since I'm a hybrid shooter. You did a fantastic job comparing the two lenses!
Great!
I'm glad that I could help your decision!
I just snagged one for my zv-e10 as well because I only had the 16-50 lens the zv comes with.
How do you feel about it right now?
I have just purchased zv-e10 myself and I’m on the hunt for this lens. Video was very helpful
@XxIcedecknightxX The kit lens is adequate when you want to travel lightly!
Is the kit lens good for gaming steaming and TH-cam vlogs?
Yes
I bought a broken Sigma a few months ago with the intention to repair it eventually, and I finally pulled the trigger on the repair parts (even though I saved a lot of $$$ it’s still expensive 😅) after dealing with the frustrating problems of the kit lens, even though it’s been absolutely fantastic for me. But as any other lens dealing with a variable aperture is a PITA and the distortion is frustratingly extreme, in addition to just how soft the center of the image is. I’m glad I could have a few months with the kit lens to discipline myself with my mirrorless but I’m very excited to switch over.
The kit lens is still a very good lens if you need to shoot outside or documentary style.
I still bring this lens for shooting in mountains sometimes. So light but a good quality!!
Exactly the video I was looking for. Very helpful.
I have the A7iii with the Kit lens and an 85mm f1.4 prime lens, but I want to buy a 24-70 f2.8 lens.
My budget is not quite enough for a Sigma lens at the moment, but I am waiting for offers on the Tamron 28-75 G2 lens.
Size & weight are big factors for me, since I don't like large and heavy lenses but at the same time, that 24mm vs 28mm thing is very hard to overlook.
I feel like I will need that extra 4mm when I'm travelling. It's really difficult to choose.
Size+Weight+Price vs Light+Compact+Cheaper -4mm
Yeah, that's always bothering me. That little 4mm difference is actually huge.
Great content man thanks I just picked up the kit lens on the use market for $160 fairly new.
I know it’s not everyone’s favorite (mixed feelings with some of the reviews) but if your budget allows for a more budget friendly lens but gives you the opportunity to shoot with that until one day when you can get your hands on the better glass.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMPARISON
I bought Sony 28-70 for my sony 6400 new for 100£ in ebay UK auction, was great bargain to me. I am happy with the lens
Oh that was a really good purchase! Congratulation!!
the end! New follower just for this honest review ♥♥
Omg! This was soooooo nice to watch! ♥️✨♥️✨♥️
Thanks Kensei it helped a lot
Nice one Kensei really helpful!
Thanks dude, I was thinking about getting sigma lens but it's nice to know the kit lens will do for the moment till I can get a gmaster or something.
Nice review! Thanks for keeping it real! 😁
I’m thinking of getting a prime lens or a kit lens with Sony A7 iV - still making my mind up. Thank you for the amazing comparison video - it’s very helpful
Glad to hear that!!
I just bought a A7IV with the 28-70 kit lens, I did this because I didnt have the enough money to buy the 24-70mm, after saving a couple of bucks I will go for this one, Thank you for sharing this information.
are you satisfied with kit lens after this time?
People should really consider this being a really good lens for travelling. Because of course you're not going to use this as a studio lens, but the kit lens is great for travelling and for if you're equipment gets stolen, it's not a huge setback. Also the weight is important. When people trash this lens, they need to account for travelers who don't want to bring a 1k lens with them that is also very heavy and draws a lot of attention.
wow Thank you for this much deep comparison. It helps a lot. I would go for the kit lense first. It seems not bad
Pro zoom lens like Tamron or sigma c series, they are light weight also their quality are good enough for professional work.
Yes, they are also good choice!
1:51 when you think that's heavy, wait till you hold and carry my Canon RF 28-70mm 😂
OMG, that's so massive lol
Great video, valid point to get one good lens for a more practical approach. My Sony A7 IV and Tamron 28-75 G2 is on the way :) I think it is a good start point for family pictures and indoor photography. Two question for you and the community:
- How far do you push your ISO with a 2.8?
- Thinking about the Tamron 70-300 for the outdoor activities? Any thoughts
Good choice!
- Around 4000 with a noise reduction in post
- I've never used it before so I honestly don't know, but that focal length is good for landscape and nature stuffs
Thanks! btw it would be better if the comparison videos were up and down rather than side by side.
Hey! Really cool content! Thank you! I am exactly in the point to buy a new camera and in doubt to buy w or without lens. Where these shots from your video made without gimble, all hand cam? Thanks!
Glad if it was helpful!
All shots were handheld or on a tripod!
thank you so much for making this content. I just ordered my Sony a6000 and I was looking for a lens, I believe Sony 28 to 70 mm would be the best choice for beginning.
In my point of view not much difference at simple landscaping view, but when it comes for portrait view there is a huge difference... With the kit lens you as the subject looks a little bit funny while on the Sigma you look like a super model or Hollywood's movie main character.
Cool video, just got into cameras with my Sony A7iii with a KITTTTLENSEEEE
You got me at “shooting this video with kitlens” great video 😊 im buying it
Thank you sir u boost my confidence i have taken kitlens because of budget problem
Thanks from INDIA 🇮🇳
Yeah man, don't lose it!!
I was planning to buy Sony a7iii with Tamron 28-75mm, but that was going out of my budget. Now after watching your video i think kit lens will do my work. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!!
Did you buy kit leks
Good job. I"m really searching for this kind of information. I'll keep the kitlens for a bit longer. Thanks a lot !!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video, clean and simple breakdown. Thanks 👌
Glad you liked it
Autofocus was horrible on the a7iv with the kit lens, def invest in a newer lens to fully benefit from the camera
I was looking for information about this kit lens and found your video, thank you. Also, isn't that kofu? Kofu in Yamanashi? Funny. A couple of years ago I lived there, such a wonderful place and took thousands of photos.
Yes, it is!!
What a coincidence! Yeah it's so easy to live in!!
Hey Kensei. As of right now I can only afford the kit lens that comes with it, either the 28-70mm or 50mm prime with an A7IV. Do you think I should downgrade maybe to an APS-C camera like the A6600 and go for a better, fixed lens? I intend to shoot travelling, outdoor videos and shoot photos alongside with that.
That is a good another way to live.
I think we don’t have to be crazy about FF always.
Sometimes the APS-C system can provide you more.
Hi CN you please show US vidéos shots taken with sigma
great vid bro
don't judge me, but i've been using the kitlens for production. you just gotta know it's weaknesses
What would you say it’s weakness is ?
Hi! Im videogrpher. I have A7iii with stock lens. I want improve my video quality. You recomend me sell the A7iii and change to other brand o change the lens?
How about FX30?
Hi, for versatile uses, with sony camera wich lens do you recommend? FE 28-70mm oss (f.3.5 5.6 SEL287O or aps- c
Sony E 16-55mm f 2.8G(SEL1655G) thanks
28-70!!
@@KenseiAkatsu thanks ! subscribed
hi again...i was searching fix 40 mm ...but what do you thing about this? Sony a6600 with tamron 17-70 or sony ac7 or a7II with sony EF 18-105 .. o know are two expensive options ...and what do think about using that sony EF on 6600...thanks!!
@@KenseiAkatsuhi again i saw recently sony FE 24-105mm ..do you consider this good for photos????( i need weather sealing and oss if i buy 6100)
In the other hand Tamron 17-70 mm i readed that there were problems with some units..firmware issues and fake copies...i dont wanna risk with that...
So do you prefer FE 24-105 on apsc or sony FE 40MM fixed with full frame camera?( i dont care to much bokeh) i believe these are versatiles..and thats what i need. Subscribed
What a comparison man. There could possibly be no better comparison than that. Kit lens is a better option unless no commercial assignment is taken up
Thank you so much for this review - was about to drop 1.9K for a lens and decided to go with the kit :)
this video is very very very helpful to me
tnx a lot man❤
Thank you for this review you are brilliant!
My pleasure!
Good Job man. I have the kit lens , rest of gear : rikenon and pentacon .
Send you greetings from Uruguay ( South America )
Awesome! Thank you!
Does sigma has image stabilization?
Nope
Any dust issues with the sigma lens?
Got some in the glass, but doesn't affect the image quality
Please tell me your editor app and system
Color grading - DaVinci Resolve
Total editing - Premiere Pro
I own the kit lens, should i sell it and buy the 24-70? I use with a Sony A7Sii.
Great vid!
I like your channel. Cool and funny too.
About the kit lens: remember your own zen saying: ‘A good thing is a good thing’.
Everything is not about the quality of the lens but the quality of the photographer.
Thanks!
Exactly!!
Can you name the lens you shot this video on ? The talking part of yours
Intro - Sony 100-400mm GM
Other talking parts - Sony 28-70mm kitlens
Is it possible to Focus manually with the kit lens when used on a7iv?
yes
最近こちらのチャンネルを発見しました。英語が流暢で、雰囲気もあって、現地日系人なのかなと思ってたら、日本の方だったのですね。レビューの視点、喋りや言葉選び、編集もキレっ、キレっでとても面白いし参考になります( ^^) チャンネル登録しました！！
ありがとございます！
がっつり日本人でございます
Thank you brother from another mother. This video really helped.
Thank you so good information 👌
Exactly what I am looking for... thanks man!
Glad to hear it!
Kit vs sigma 28-70 f2.8 C ??
sigma 28-70 f2.8 C for me
nice video bro!
Thanks for this, it makes the decision a lot easier.
About the last part of the video: it's interesting how you went back to Japanese pronunciation of English words, like firumu kamera 🙂
Glad it was helpful!
I bought A7iv and waiting for it's delivery.. now searching for 24 70 zoom lens. Sigma, Samyang, Tamron.. which one to pick? Samyang is cheap and has some good reviews.. but I feel like most of them are paid reviews, bcoz all the reviewers are acting weird .. LOL. paid reviewers are so great than oscar winning actors.
Sigma or Tamron.
I have had both. Obviously the SIgma is better. But I did not hate the kit lens either. It was much much better then any Canon kit lens I have ever used.
I think tamron 28-75mm 2.8 is something good in the middle
Hi, does this kitlens can create bokeh effects?
just purchased a Sony A7IV with the kit lens it’s my first camera and I thought it would be good enough to start with and it definitely has been awesome
Great to hear! Enjoy it!!
Good brother
Your skin is so soft:)
Gracias por el video muy ilustrativo 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Awesome comparison, very useful. I just feel like there’s a vibe to the sigma that is not in kit lens.
It really is!
the kitlens isn't bad, however, I do plan to get the Sigma eventually so I don't think I would want to have the kitlens and invest in get the Sigma especially that it has extra 4mm and better colors and focus and aperture. Is traveling with the Sigma art lens really that bad?
If you already know you will get Sigma2470 anyway in the future, I'd say "Go for it now!"
For sure it's a heavy lens but totally worth it and traveling with it is not that bad.
I just found your channel. Great content! This video helped me out! I'm an Olympus OM-D EM-1mk2 user, but I've been shooting my content with my iPhone 13 Pro because it shoots better video. I'm thinking of upgrading to a Sony. Saving up for an a7iv. Would you recommend a a7iii or a7iv? Aloha from Yokohama! ちなみに、最後のレンズの revealと日本語はめっちゃ面白かった！
Depends on your purpose.
If you wanna push it REALLY hard, A7IV is good for a long term.
たまには日本語もいいでしょ？？
"it's more than not that bad. It's good!" lol
i dont even have a kit lens, wish lenses were cheaper
Incredible!
I'm a huge fan of Sigma although is it just me or them not adding stabilization to the lens is wild
In india Sigma 24-70 was about Rs 90000+ and Sony 28-70 was about 30000+ i dont see rs 7000+ difference .
bro! prfect job. =))
Glad you think so!
Thank you bro
I am still shooting with kit lens and old camera. I can't tell the differences, I don't have the other lens to compare. Hahaha. Now I see the differences with your comparison. But can't afford the people lens. Still gonna shoot with the kit lens 😎. Great review. 👍
Good to know!!!
You got me on Kittens!!! :D
Yup go for it!!
I thought the kit lens was awesome considering the price difference. Buy a used Sony 50mm lens with your savings and you're sorted. That's a better combo than just the Sigma. And you'll still have change for a gimbal, lol.
thank you
Greetings from Poland ;)
In your opinion... what would you choose?
S7IV with kit lens or S7III with Sigma 24-70
I looked at hundreds of videos on YT and in my opinion your approach to the photo-video topic is the most rational ;)
I would go for A7IV!
I was torn about getting an unused kit lens for 15.000円 or save up and buy a used Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 for 75.000円. But after your video I think I'm just gonna buy the kit lens and use the remaining money to buy another lens I might need in the future.
Thanks dude, your video was a big help.
Nice man!!
Acting now is the most important thing!!
Just keep it up man!!
@@KenseiAkatsu Agreed! I Decided to use the remaining money to buy a used 16-70mm F4 vario tessar lens. Do you think it's a good lens?
Sigma is sharper and every youtuber put a promist filter on it.
日本人ですか？
はい！
FE 28-70mm f/8-11 GM OSS 😂
great video,.,.,
Thanks 👍
The kit lens wasn't as bad as I expected.
Yeah right? It's good!
🙂🙂🙂
buys pro lens because its sharper than cheap kit lens
make video
footage too sharp for my film
blur footage in post
fml