When I trained as a bus driver in the 70s we were taught to turn the steering wheel with the push pull (2:25) method to reduce the risk of a dislocated shoulder in turning the big steering wheel.
When I trained with ETS in 1979, not 1 bus on the fleet had power steering! Now at 73, certainly feeling the effects... In the winter, it took 3 guys and a small dog to crank that steering wheel!
We tried to get Gen. Mgr. E.V. Miller to go with power steering in the BBC New Look trolley coach order, since they were on lines that made a lot of stops. He nixed it. Then when we bought the last 35 Diesel New Looks, they came with power steering. This was in '82/'83 or so.
@@smwca123 I remember that. I hope someone turns up a copy someday. There also were three LRT 16 mm movies . The first two were shot like tv news on color reversal film. The third was shot on color negative film and looked great. There also was a film on the restoration of Edmonton streetcar Number One. None of these mid-70's till mid-80's have turned up on the internet when I looked about a year ago. The CCF Brills are in my TH-cam channel. th-cam.com/video/HTJHfVWYIio/w-d-xo.html
In 10 years it'll be 2030 and ppl will still drive crazy like this around buses...by then I'll have been on my job 12 years and I'll be 50 andmarried to my lovely wife 18 years (Oct. 28 2030) Lords Willing 😁
If you watch the bus safety video by Lancer Insurance, (which appears to be maybe about 10 years after this) they actually make a point to tell you to avoid the button hook turn. They claim in their video that research both accident reports and camera footage of bus accidents shows that the button hook allows too much opportunity for a vehicle to sneak in on the right side. They claim that four-wheel operators will later tell the police that they saw the bus signaling for a right hand turn but positioning to turn left and assumed that the driver was giving the wrong signal. They say that the preferred method of right hand turns is the straddle method.
You are going to need two lanes to make a right turn onto narrow street. You either take it on the street you are on, or on the street you are turning into. Key element is that everyone do it the same way. New Safety Management System regulations from FTA require discussion with drivers. Done correctly the SMS can solve a lot of problems. Maybe even some cities would post a sign that buses make wide right turns (but that is hoping Public Works Dept would be willing to help).
Was that Chong in that Green Ford? Good Video . I picked up a few Pointers from this, as I have just bought a 34 foot Gulfstream Class A motorhome . I remember the OLD Cream and Maroon ETS buses that they used until the Late 1960's !
There are 8mm films of 1977 Edmonton with lots of "Flame Orange" buses, including CCF Brills and a few GMC "Old Looks" at www.youtube.com/@rwrynerson/videos as well as other transit scenes.
A soon as he mentioned metres I knew this is Canada, not U.S.A. Canada was still making these buses long after the U.S turned to the RTS replacement. Canada wisely said no thanks and stuck with the tried and trusted New Look featured here.
@@rapman5363 I must have missed that minor detail. Another stupid city closing it's trolley bus system like Wellington NZ. They were probably influenced by Edmonton.
No Name yup, that’s Kathleen Andrews, Edmonton Transit’s 1st female bus operator. They just honoured her a few months ago with a brand new Transit garage named after her name. Check it out here: www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5462496/edmonton-honours-kathleen-andrews-the-city-s-1st-female-bus-driver-1.5462736
@@thebuffalodude I looked at the link and it appears that her daughter was talking about her mom Kathleen being the first female bus driver in that city. Is Kathleen still alive? I also listened to the interview Kathleen gave in 1976. Times have changed. Today in my area of South Florida (Miami and Ft. Lauderdale) more than half of the transit bus drivers are women.
@@thebuffalodude Hi there, Unfortunately that is not my Mum, Kathleen Andrews, I was told that it might be Sharon Hunter. :) My mum passed away on November 17th, 2013. Great news about all the female drivers in Florida :)
Sometimes it is simply amazing what shows up on my FB timeline. For me this is pure deju vu from almost 40 years ago.
When I trained as a bus driver in the 70s we were taught to turn the steering wheel with the push pull (2:25) method to reduce the risk of a dislocated shoulder in turning the big steering wheel.
Yep, that's how I was taught at cincinnati Metro as well.. also it'll prevent torn rotator cuffs
so calming.
Beautiful video, I wish Edmonton still looked this good.
Very informative,still holds true today in 2019.
only the following distance needs to be increased
Good video
This video aged like fine wine then.
This is really cool!
You watched this too bro? I love their videos. Especially the preventing accidents video.
@@alvinmccranie6978 Yup! It’s still relevant and I love older buses!
When I trained with ETS in 1979, not 1 bus on the fleet had power steering! Now at 73, certainly feeling the effects... In the winter, it took 3 guys and a small dog to crank that steering wheel!
'Tis the truth, so help me God! Beats me how we survived it...
We tried to get Gen. Mgr. E.V. Miller to go with power steering in the BBC New Look trolley coach order, since they were on lines that made a lot of stops. He nixed it. Then when we bought the last 35 Diesel New Looks, they came with power steering. This was in '82/'83 or so.
@@rwrynerson This series included a training film for trolleybuses, Switches, Wires, and Poles, which isn't on YT.
@@smwca123 I remember that. I hope someone turns up a copy someday. There also were three LRT 16 mm movies . The first two were shot like tv news on color reversal film. The third was shot on color negative film and looked great. There also was a film on the restoration of Edmonton streetcar Number One. None of these mid-70's till mid-80's have turned up on the internet when I looked about a year ago.
The CCF Brills are in my TH-cam channel.
th-cam.com/video/HTJHfVWYIio/w-d-xo.html
In 10 years it'll be 2030 and ppl will still drive crazy like this around buses...by then I'll have been on my job 12 years and I'll be 50 andmarried to my lovely wife 18 years (Oct. 28 2030) Lords Willing 😁
TH-cam has a good channel where you can watch the sitcom, 'On The Busses' Double Decker Route Masters
Hermoso bus cómodo es increíble su diseño, en su tiempo fue como una nave espacial
If you watch the bus safety video by Lancer Insurance, (which appears to be maybe about 10 years after this) they actually make a point to tell you to avoid the button hook turn. They claim in their video that research both accident reports and camera footage of bus accidents shows that the button hook allows too much opportunity for a vehicle to sneak in on the right side. They claim that four-wheel operators will later tell the police that they saw the bus signaling for a right hand turn but positioning to turn left and assumed that the driver was giving the wrong signal.
They say that the preferred method of right hand turns is the straddle method.
Correct... I was taught hold guard over both lanes.
You are going to need two lanes to make a right turn onto narrow street. You either take it on the street you are on, or on the street you are turning into. Key element is that everyone do it the same way. New Safety Management System regulations from FTA require discussion with drivers. Done correctly the SMS can solve a lot of problems. Maybe even some cities would post a sign that buses make wide right turns (but that is hoping Public Works Dept would be willing to help).
@@bobiowahogs9899 it's said that we need a sign as it should be quite obvious most motorists that buses and semis need to make wide right turns.
Was that Chong in that Green Ford? Good Video . I picked up a few Pointers from this, as I have just bought a 34 foot Gulfstream Class A motorhome . I remember the OLD Cream and Maroon ETS buses that they used until the Late 1960's !
There are 8mm films of 1977 Edmonton with lots of "Flame Orange" buses, including CCF Brills and a few GMC "Old Looks" at www.youtube.com/@rwrynerson/videos as well as other transit scenes.
@@rwrynerson That was supposed to be closer to Campbell's Soup white over red.
A soon as he mentioned metres I knew this is Canada, not U.S.A.
Canada was still making these buses long after the U.S turned to the RTS replacement. Canada wisely said no thanks and stuck with the tried and trusted New Look featured here.
I guess the Edmonton Transit Authority at the beginning of the video wasn’t a big enough give away.
@@rapman5363 I must have missed that minor detail. Another stupid city closing it's trolley bus system like Wellington NZ. They were probably influenced by Edmonton.
In King Lord Master Friend and my Father, Jesus`, Name, Amen.
Why am I watching this
Because you might buy a Class A motorhome like I did, one day !
@@jackpontiac52 Lol maybe so
@@diyoverhauler5432 This ETS video has some good pointers about driving a long vehicle.
I never heard of a mid block bus stop
The lady bus driver is cute.
Why is this in my feed?
Canada refused new look flexible buses, they didn't want them
Montreal had 50 built locally under licence by Canadair in 1965-66; those were the only ones in Canada.
MTA will say the push pull method is better. This method is better
Would Charlie agree?
A WOMAN bus driver??! Watched a 1960 one of these and they wouldn't have liked that one bit!!!!
No Name yup, that’s Kathleen Andrews, Edmonton Transit’s 1st female bus operator. They just honoured her a few months ago with a brand new Transit garage named after her name. Check it out here:
www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5462496/edmonton-honours-kathleen-andrews-the-city-s-1st-female-bus-driver-1.5462736
@@thebuffalodude I looked at the link and it appears that her daughter was talking about her mom Kathleen being the first female bus driver in that city. Is Kathleen still alive? I also listened to the interview Kathleen gave in 1976. Times have changed. Today in my area of South Florida (Miami and Ft. Lauderdale) more than half of the transit bus drivers are women.
@@thebuffalodude Hi there, Unfortunately that is not my Mum, Kathleen Andrews, I was told that it might be Sharon Hunter. :) My mum passed away on November 17th, 2013. Great news about all the female drivers in Florida :)
@@lisaandrews652 Actually, it was Linda Harris who later became Linda Schnell. I had to think about that one!
Looks amazingly like Lynda Carter. Even the glasses remind me of the kind Diana Prince wore on Wonder Woman.